1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Save, a production of iHeart Radio 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: and Stuff Media. I'm Ann and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: we have for you today, uh, something we've never done 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: before here on Saber. We've got a classic episode, a 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: classic which is another word for a rerun. But we 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: have a slight update, Yes, slight update, because the classic 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: episode that we were presenting to you today is from 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: all the way back in it's about Chuck E Cheese. Yeah, 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: one of our babes around here. Yeah, Chuck E Cheese is. 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: I was listening back to this episode and I still 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: cannot believe how completely wild this story is. Yeah, it's fantastic. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: It is utterly fantastic. Um, there's there is intrigue. There's 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: a lot of in there's quite a bit of intrigue 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: surprising him now, you might say, and and danger. There's 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot a lot of people, apparently adults, adult 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: human people get into fights which require the police to 17 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: be called on the premises of checky Cheeses. Yes, and 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: when we were searching, I always do news cheese. What 19 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: can we talk about? What can we update with? Like 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: in the top four was there's been a recent fight 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: at check cheese involving what more than ten people? Than 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: ten people? Yeah, yeah, it was actually pretty serious. Yeah sorry, sorry, 23 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm laughing at people having, you know, a bad night 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: and injuring themselves and others. It's not a funny thing. No, 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: but it's odd, yes it is, um perhaps newsworthy, it 26 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: is newsworthy. Yeah. Um. Also, apparently Chuck E Cheese is 27 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: going through a good little boom period right now. They 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: have changed some of their pricing plans. They've got like 29 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: a play all day kind of package now and report 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: that in the first quarter of nineteen sales are up 31 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: seven point seven in some stores. I know, right, yeah, yeah, 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: good for them. Um. They're also apparently planning a reverse 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: merger and ongoing public and that's a business thing that 34 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand very well. Um, but apparently it's where 35 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: like you set up a shell company that then like 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: buys you, and then you sort of no, I think 37 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: we should keep all this this is it's confusing and 38 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: weird business nonsense. And then yeah, and then I don't know, 39 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: like like you, I don't know. I'm sorry, I don't 40 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm not an economics pot. We are not pack and clearly, jeez, 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: it's my I I literally stopped being a journalism major 42 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: because I was pretty sure that I couldn't pass macroeconomics. 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: It was tough. It was tough, but anyway, Yeah, so 44 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna go public um uh. And they're excited 45 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: about that, and hence that they're experiencing good times, good 46 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: times and the check E Cheese. Um and yeah. With 47 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: all that, uh, I guess we'll let uh past Annie 48 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: and Lauren take it away. Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. 49 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reeve and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum. And today we're 50 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: talking about check E Cheese. Yes, our Chuck E Cheeses, 51 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: as is more properly known. It's a possessive now, Yeah, 52 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: let's get that out of the way right out front. Yeah, 53 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: somehow this comes up a lot at our office. It's 54 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: one of those mysteries of conversation. I'd say at least 55 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: once a week. Yeah, I don't know how. And we 56 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: haven't done any restaurant episodes yet here on food stuff, 57 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: which is a theme that we, you know, have been 58 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: planning on covering. Chuck E Cheese is a restaurant, Yeah, 59 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: it serves food. It does for sure have you ever 60 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: been to a CHICKI Cheese more? Yeah, I mean clearly, 61 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: clearly obviously not well, not in like like twenty five 62 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: years at least. Um, I remember going in the late eighties, 63 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: early nineties. I went for my ninth birthday and I 64 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: there was this purple unicorn prize I really wanted, and 65 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure if I just bought it from a grocery 66 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: store it was probably maybe maybe a dollar, probably less, 67 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: but I spent at least twenty dollars on tokens to 68 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: get tickets to Okay, if if you out air and 69 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: podcast Land have never been to a Chuck E Cheese 70 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: or never heard of one, and are very confused about 71 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: what's going on, let's talk about what it is. Yes, 72 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: let's do that. Uh huh oh man. The easier question 73 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: is what isn't it? Because it's a restaurant, it's an arcade, 74 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: it's a midway. Their theatrics involved. Chuck E Cheeses is 75 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: a chain of dining and entertainment centers aimed at families 76 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: with young children, like ages two to twelve or thereabouts. 77 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheeses where a kid can be a kid. 78 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: That's the saying, uh huh, Um, that's been there saying 79 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: for like forty years. It's their forty anniversary this year, 80 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: by the way, that yeah, we're old. It's great. Um. 81 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheese is generally feature video game cabinets, arcade 82 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: games that let you collect tickets to exchange for prizes, 83 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: and pizza, alcoholic beverages for the adults, and some kind 84 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: of live entertainment or as the case may be, mechanical entertainment. 85 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: More on that in a moment. And they do focus 86 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: on birthday parties and other like multi family gathering kind 87 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: of situations. Yeah, and the live entertainment part is is 88 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: really what catapulted this concept to legendary status, because otherwise 89 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: you've just got an indoor midway. But that the entertainment 90 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: involves performers in in walk around costumes, which is an 91 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: entertainment industry term for those full body plush costumes, you know, 92 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: like the kind that Disney uses to let Mickey Mouse 93 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: actually walk physically around their parks and give kids hugs 94 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: and or their very first existential crisis. Yes, that kind 95 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: of customs. Um. And originally Chucky Cheese has had a 96 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: full band of life size robotic characters that would act 97 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: out verbal skits and play music. Yes, that is what 98 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: I remember, and this is that it terrified me. When 99 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I was a child, I was on the borderline of 100 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: thinking that animatronics was okay, and that was one of 101 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: the ones where I was like, well, I am not happy. 102 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: You were not okay with that. I was not. I 103 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: was not pleased. I don't think. I don't think. I 104 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: don't think. I completely broke down. But that's good. I 105 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: remember being like, I was like, I'm gonna go play 106 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: some ski ball, do something else other than watch this, 107 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: literally anything else. Yes. Although they started with just one 108 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: location in San Jose in the late nineteen seventies, there 109 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: are now six hundred and six locations spread throughout the 110 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: United States and the Middle and South America, plus the 111 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. Yes, you can visit 112 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: a Chuck e Cheese in Mecca. Wow, Go to pray, 113 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: stay to play. Is not that I'm personally aware of, 114 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: but if any marketing teams want to get in touch 115 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: with me, we'll have our contact information. At the end 116 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: of the showy they employ about eighteen thousand people worldwide 117 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: and made just a hair under a billion. Dang dollars 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: in revenue in According to chief marketing officer Michael Hartman, 119 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: of families who live within fifteen miles of a Chuck 120 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: E Cheeses and have a child between the ages of 121 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: three and eight have visited at least once, and half 122 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: of those families have visited in the past year. Chuck 123 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: E Cheese is doing a lot better than I thought 124 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: it would be currently. I know, right, it's still it 125 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: is a pervasive cultural phenomenon, yes, and let's talk about 126 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: how it became to be a pervasive cultural phenomenon. Chuck 127 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: E Cheese was the brainchild of Nolan Bushnell, who also 128 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: happens to be the co founder of Atari like a 129 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Tari Atari, Yeah, like the video games company. Yeah. He 130 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: originally started um Chuck E Cheese. He built this game 131 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: called Pong, an arcade game called Pong you may also 132 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: be familiar with, Yes, and he wanted a place where 133 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: people could go play it and he could make money 134 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: off of it. Yeah, like like a vertical integration thing, 135 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: because he was you know, we're selling the cabinets. So 136 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: in seven, while working at Atari, um, Bushnell got the 137 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: idea that if he could give these games a home, 138 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: he could make a lot more money because at the time, 139 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: you would sell a coin operated arcade game for two thousand, 140 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: which is a nice chunk of change. However, but over 141 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: the lifetime it goes on to make fifteen to twenty 142 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which is way more. Yeah, so he wanted 143 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: a slice of that. And speaking of wanting a slice 144 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: of that, he came up with the concept for the 145 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: restaurant within arcade attaches a way to avoid competition from 146 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: typical straight up arcades, and since pizza is relatively simple, fast, 147 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: pretty much universally revered, he decided to make it a 148 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: pizza place. Yeah. Other innovations, by the way, that that 149 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: Nolan Bushnell made include one of uh steve jobs first 150 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: professional gigs, uh in developing the game Breakout in the seventies, 151 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: and uh so I note, I'm very happy that this 152 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: episode gave me the opportunity to explore the video game 153 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: crash of a k a. The Atari Shock. Oh oh, 154 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: it's great. There's definitely an episode about that over on 155 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: tech stuff. I'm sure that you can use your googles 156 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: to to find that one. Um. But okay, let's let's 157 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: get back to those singing animatronics. How did that happen? Yeah, 158 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: this kind of bizarre thing came about actually with the 159 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: parents in mind. What, Yeah, they were meant for the parents. 160 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: So Bushnell knew that kids could be very um, very persuasive, 161 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: say you might say that when they're trying to convince 162 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: their parents to do something that they wanted to do. 163 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: So Bushnell knew that an arcade means spending money, and 164 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: parents are kind of trying to avoid that. So he 165 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: thought if he had a free robot band it was 166 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: free with food purchase, then it would it would be 167 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: more of a cell, would be an easier cell. It 168 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: would be like entertained, like dinner and in a show 169 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: and then guess what, mom and dad? There are all 170 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: these games here, this arcade and also beer you like beer? 171 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: You do like beer? Have have a beer? Will you? 172 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: And I can't really recall the dialogue of this show, 173 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: but bush now claims it worked on two levels for 174 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: adults and children, and that it was edgy. Ah. Unfortunately 175 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: I was unable to find any footage of this, but 176 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: I I believe that that probably is true, like like 177 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: a Muppets kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, he drew inspiration 178 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: from a place called pizza and pipes where large crowds 179 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: would other to eat pizza and watch someone play an 180 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: oregan and he was like, they're just coming to see 181 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: this organ show and getting pizza. I can do that. 182 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: I can do better. Yeah. And then he saw the 183 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: animatronics at the Tiki Room at Disneyland, and that gave 184 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: him the idea to just got the cost of having 185 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: to pay for a performer and get a robotic band, yeah, 186 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: because that's clearly cheaper than paying a human person in 187 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: his mind and probably in the long run. And at 188 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: the time this project was known as code name Coyote Pizza. 189 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: When it was on its way to be in Greenland, 190 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: Bushnell attended the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions. 191 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Are I a p A in Orlando? I'm sure that's yeah, yea. 192 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: He stumbled across the group selling mascot outfits and they 193 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: just so happened to have the perfect coyote mascot. Because 194 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: if you couldn't tell about the code name, the original 195 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: idea was for a coyote mascot. Yeah. Bushnell purchased the 196 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: outfit and send it back to his team so they 197 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: could get about started robotifying it, and when Bushell had 198 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: returned and he asked about the progress report on this 199 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: animatronic coyote, the engineers were confused and they told him 200 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: but they didn't receive a coyote costume, but they had 201 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: instead received a rat. Oh but how did that mix 202 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: up happen? Who knows it changed the chorus of this 203 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: whole thing. Bushnell was unfazed. He said, no problem, we'll 204 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: call it Regrets Pizza instead. Well, as you can imagine, 205 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: due to the whole people kind of being grossed out 206 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: by rats, especially near their food even before Pizza Rat. 207 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: The public relations firm associated with this was not really 208 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: on board with Regrets Pizza, so they proposed a name change. 209 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: A week or so later. They countered with Chuck E 210 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Cheese and the E stands work entertainment, by the way. Yeah, 211 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: and I think that they chose this name based on 212 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the fact that it forces your face to smile like 213 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: three times in what while you're saying it to do 214 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: it with me friends, Chuck E Cheese. Oh, it's terrible. 215 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Joker venom. Yeah, I mean, 216 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: but great. They were like, it's happiness and syllables go, 217 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: that's crazy that there are people paid to think about 218 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: that and thought of that. Yeah. Nuts. Well, with the 219 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: name besided upon and the animatronics built, the first chuck 220 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: E Cheese opened in San Jose, California, in May of nine. 221 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: The original cast of animatronics included Chuckie Cheese, Crusty the Cat, 222 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: who was replaced by Mr Munch after only a year, Pasqually, 223 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: the singing chef on drums, the dog Jasper t Jowls, 224 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: and the war Blats who could forget the war blatz 225 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Um it was known after Mr Munch joined as Munch's 226 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: make believe band. Oh. Many characters would be tested throughout 227 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: the years, including an Elvis impersonator, um, multiple husband having 228 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: former cabaret star, and hippo Dolly Dimples. I think I 229 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: remember Dolly. I don't remember Dolly. I yeah, I don't 230 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: remember really anybody but Chuck. I think, like seven year 231 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: old me was like, what kind of low rent miss Piggy? 232 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Is this some shade on Dolly and the hippo coming 233 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: from a young Lauren Um And this brings us to 234 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: a quick bonus note about animatronic programming. At the time, 235 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: the skits were programmed by Mike Hatcher, who wrote the 236 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: authoring system and was also a skilled puppeteer and screenwriter. 237 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Each minute of movement took three hours of programming, with 238 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: two movements happening simultaneously during each show. And he did 239 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: this during the Graveyard Shift by watching a tape and 240 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: programming each movement individually. And on top of that, the 241 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: skit changed monthly, you know, keep things fresh, keep people coming. Sure, 242 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: got to come back, new joke that works on two 243 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: levels when we get this week. And extra bonus fact 244 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: the animatronics were pneumatic ah U powerful stuff. Yes, And 245 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: going back to that, the show kind of being aimed 246 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: towards adult thing. The first rendition of Check e Cheese 247 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: was a bit less kid friendly. If you look through 248 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the old Chuck E Cheese comic books and yes there 249 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: are comic books. He smoked cigars, he had a thick 250 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey accent, and he was kind of a jerk. 251 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: He was like, really mean, you should look at these pictures. 252 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: It's he looks like just the worst alcoholic. Oh, he's 253 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: got huge bags under his eyes, his nose is drooping 254 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: cigar and all this smoke around him. Chucky, what are 255 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: you doing? Take care of yourself, buddy, the kids are watching. Yeah, 256 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: they changed that relatively quickly, but Chuck Ease, questionable moral 257 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: practices were not the not the end of the drama 258 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: for this very bizarre little business. Um little ain't little 259 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: at all, is it? Um? And we'll get into some 260 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: more of that right after a quick word from our sponsor, 261 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. So about a year 262 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: after that first San Jose location opened, Warner, the company 263 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: that you've probably heard of, purchased Atari from Bushnell. But 264 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: they didn't really want to have anything to do with 265 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: a PiZZ arcade rat themed thing. Bushnell they told him 266 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: to sell it, and what you know who bought it 267 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: but Bushnell. He sold it to himself. He sold it 268 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: to himself and he was not going to let it go. 269 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: At the time, it was more of a side project 270 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: for him because he remained on as the CEO of Atari, 271 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: but um there were some tensions between Mourner and Bushnell, 272 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: and by the time they decided they'd had enough of 273 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: each other and split ways, Bushnell had opened two fifty 274 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: check e cheeses and they were up and running throughout 275 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: the United States. Yeah, so he was pretty pretty busy 276 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: along the side, making sure that this was probably going 277 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: to succeed. Yes, and then even more drama. Bushnell sought 278 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: financial backing from the chairman of Brock Hotel Corporation, Bob Brock, 279 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: and while researching some improvements he could make as he 280 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: expanded Chuck E Cheese, Brock um he was going to 281 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: expand them into sixteen states. He sixteen states, sixteen new states, Yes, 282 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: thank you. He came across an animatronic engineer named Aaron Fetcher. 283 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Fetcher's animatronics worked a little more smoothly than the current ones, 284 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: and U said, Chuck E Cheese. Apparently they actually had 285 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: facial expressions that changed, Oh my goodness, just tumbling you 286 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: further and further into the uncanny valley perfect. We all 287 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: love that, don't we. So Brock offered to buy them 288 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: from Fetcher. But apparently they were very far superior than 289 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: what Chuckie Cheese had going on, because when Fetcher turned 290 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: down Rocks offer, Rock instead went to business with Fetcher, Yeah, 291 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: opening a competing restaurant arcade named show Biz Pizza Place. Yeah, intrigue. 292 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: I know there's an intrigue pizza rat intrigue. This is crazy. 293 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: Their target was slightly different with the band rock a 294 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Fire Explosion that played music more appealing for an older crowd. 295 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: And someone in her office who works in our office, 296 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: Ramsey tells me that there's a documentary about this. Oh yeah, 297 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I haven't had the chance to watch it, but I 298 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: will absolutely speak it out. Yeah yeah, check it out 299 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: and let us know what you think. Yeah. And, as 300 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: you can imagine, Chuck E Cheese wasn't happy about this. 301 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: Probably Bushnell the company, Yes, um, so they sued Showbiz 302 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Pizza Place, eventually reaching a settlement that obligated Showbiz Pizza 303 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: Place to pay out some of its profits to Check 304 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: E Cheese over a fourteen year period. Yeah. And all 305 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: the while this is going on, Chuck E Cheese is 306 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: building a pretty solid rep reputation. In a n info 307 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: World article written by Scott Mace, he just grib Chuck 308 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: E Cheese as quote a whruling combination of garish lights 309 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: and NonStop electronic noise that is quite unlike any other 310 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: pizza parlor or video game arcade. It is part Star Wars, 311 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: part Disneyland, and part social phenomena. Yeah. But despite this, 312 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: shall we say praise and the legal win Chuck E 313 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: Cheese went bankrupt in four and show Biz took it over. 314 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: What I know, They combined the two companies into show 315 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Bizz Pizza Time, Inc. But Schnell he abandoned ship just 316 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: before bankruptcy, and he walked away with thirty five million. 317 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: And I couldn't find like he wouldn't He won't talk 318 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: about it really, or at least in any interview I 319 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: could find. He won't talk about exactly what happened. Oh 320 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: my goodness. But Chuck E Cheese the character was too 321 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: popular to kill off. So show Bizz is Billy Bob 322 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: was very similar to Chuck E Cheese. Um and Chuck 323 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: E Cheese appear and as together as friendly competition. Who yes, 324 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: I know, it's so there's so much drama here. And 325 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: when Fetcher the animatronics guy left, he took his Roquefire 326 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: explosion creations with them, but he only took the outside 327 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: like the suits. So they used the actual like skeleton 328 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: the animatronics skeletons, and they put Chuck E Cheese costumes 329 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: on them. Yeah, oh at all, I know, don't think 330 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: about it too hard. By two, all locations had been 331 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: rebranded as check E Cheese. Uh yeah, and side note 332 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: in the same vain type of restaurant, David Busters opened 333 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: its first location in nine two and other side note, 334 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Checky Cheese went international in nineteen eighty under the name 335 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: Charlie Cheese in Australia, and that name change the thing 336 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: was due to the Australian association of chuck with vomit. 337 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't want people associating that with the restaurant. Probably 338 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: not no other other other side note. The company went 339 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: public in nine and then would go on to change 340 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: its name to C E C. Chuck E Cheese Entertainment 341 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: in the company produced a direct to video movie. It 342 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: was called Chuck E Cheese in the Galaxy five thousand. Okay, 343 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: it mostly only played in in Chuck E Cheese locations, 344 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: but it's apparently about a young boy who needs to 345 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: raise money to fix his family's tractor. So the whole 346 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: animal crew gets together and enters an intergalactic race on 347 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: the planet Ryan, of course, because that's the most logical 348 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: way to raise like fifty grand for a tractor. That's 349 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: definitely what I would have done. It's the very first 350 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: thing I would have thought of. In Teve, Chuck E 351 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: received a makeover and a species change. He's a mouse 352 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: now what. Yeah, he's also younger and slimmer looking. Um, 353 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: he's some for for some reason lost the backwards baseball 354 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: cap and the elbow pads that he always wore, despite 355 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he was never like skateboarding or rollerblading. No, 356 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: he had definitely had elbow pads for a while there. Um. 357 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: He now wears Chuck Taylor's like the kids do. Yeah, 358 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: and he sometimes carries a guitar. Really cool, and he's 359 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: voiced by the frontman of Bowling for Soup. I never 360 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: saw that coming. I things that I did not dream 361 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: I would get to say into a microphone ever. Yeah, 362 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: Jarrett Reddick. Uh. He he replaced the decade long voice 363 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: actor Duncan Brannon in and there was a little bit 364 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: of drama about that too, because apparently Brandon was just 365 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: about the last person to know about the switch. Like 366 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: a fans Center video with the new actor to Brandon, 367 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: and he was he like released a press release about 368 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: how upset he was about the situation. Yeah, that would 369 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: be pretty upsetting. In early the company was was floundering 370 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: a little bit again and CEC Entertainment was bought by 371 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: this private holding company called Apollo for one point three 372 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Later UM, the company would buy a pizza 373 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: chain called Peter Piper Pizza, which is a family restaurant 374 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: concept with playgrounds and arcades attached, sort of like the 375 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: the inverse of Check E Cheese. I think Apollo is 376 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: trying to kind of expand it's uh, it's it's holding 377 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: in this company. And as of sen there have been 378 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: reports that Apollo is looking to either open the business 379 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: to public trading again with an I p O sometime 380 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: this year, or to sell the chain for two billion dollars. 381 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: They have turned the chains profits around in the time 382 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: that they've owned it. Um. These entertainment centers had been 383 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: operating at a loss for a couple of year years. 384 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: But um, but now they're they're they're doing they're doing 385 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: some some some millions in profit every quarter these days. 386 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: So wow, Yeah, it's pretty impressive. This is a section 387 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: we had to come back and add in because right 388 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: after we recorded our episode on Chuck E Cheese, Big 389 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: Chuck E Cheese News, Yeah, we apparently tapped into some 390 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of Chuck E cheesepe guys, we did. We could 391 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: feel that this was an important topic of the moment brewing. Yeah, 392 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: so Chuck E Cheese as of as of August of 393 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: is working on phasing out their animatronics. No, no more 394 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Pizza Time players, no, and um. The reason they gave 395 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: for this is that kids are too discerning these days. Yeah, 396 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: They're expectations of technology are too high, and that therefore 397 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: even the best of animatronics are going to be slightly disappointing. Wow. 398 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: But Tom Leverton, the company CEO, reported that many people 399 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: have like used animatronics and set them up in their 400 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: own homes and garages to like and like keyed them 401 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: around to playing music again, So there's a second life 402 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: there is. When I was searching this, a lot of 403 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the top results were like auctioning off tronics. Yeah, just 404 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: kind of both endearing and terrifying. I don't know how 405 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: I would feel if I went to someone's house and 406 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: they had that in their garage. I wouldn't need to 407 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: know that before I arrived. Yes, I would need a warning. 408 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: I also found a hilarious eulogy written by a musician 409 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and it was like, you didn't know at first. It 410 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: was about checking, Like, I know how hard it is 411 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: to make it in the entertainment business. But this man 412 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: whose middle name was an entertainment couldn't make it, and 413 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: how will I? It was great? It was great. Well, 414 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: they're also phasing in digital kiosk so that you don't 415 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: have to interact with a person at all. You just say, 416 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: I want a pizza and um a coke or whatever 417 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: beverage you'd prefer, and this many dollars time a playing 418 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: time in your card. So so so old robots out 419 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: new robots in exactly. So that kind of explains the 420 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: the history of the entertainment in the company. But hey, 421 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: this is a show about food, purportedly, so what about 422 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: the food? What about it? Well, food and beverages make 423 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: up about fort of Chuck e Cheese and Peter Piper's 424 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: total sales. So the food is a lure, it's a trap. Wow. Yeah, 425 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: so what are they serving? Yeah, besides pizza. Well, the 426 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: basics are the same worldwide, like creepily the same. Okay, 427 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I went I went down a little bit of a 428 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: rabbit hole today. I pulled up the menus from all 429 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: of their international locations and three locations around the United States, 430 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: UM specifically when in massach Sits one in Boise, Idaho, 431 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: and the one in Atlanta, and then Chile, Guatemala, Panama, 432 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Trinidad and Tobago, Peru, Mexico, and Dubai, and they basically 433 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: all offered the same things, like down to the same 434 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: specialty pizza topping combinations. I made a spreadsheet. Okay, so 435 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: so categories here. All of them serve wings, some kind 436 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: of fried potatoes, chicken nuggets, pizzas, sandwiches, salads, desserts, and beverages. 437 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: You can go essentially anywhere in the world to a 438 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: chuck e cheese and get the same Italian chabbata sandwich 439 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: or the same chicken caesar wrap. Everywhere except Mexico, Panama 440 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: and Chile offered the same barbecue chicken pizza. It has 441 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: green peppers, crispy onions, chicken, and a barbecue sauce. In 442 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: Chile they call their all meat pizza the Americana, which 443 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: cracks me up. I was like, oh that's what, thanks guys. Um. 444 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: Just about everywhere except America offers a full coffee slash 445 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: espresso bar. Atlant is the only location I checked that 446 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: specifies that wine is available in addition to beer on 447 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: their menu, which does seem to be fair like a 448 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: very Atlanta thing. I think most places also offer wine, 449 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: but their online menus say like also beer, right, get 450 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: a coffee. But Atlanta Atlanta is like, we got wine too. 451 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, we need you to know. The Peruvian 452 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: menu deviated the most. They offer a Hawaiian pizza for dessert. 453 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: There's plan or a marshmallow pizza that served with ice cream. 454 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: What is a marshmallow pizza? I don't know. I think 455 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: it's baked dough that you've covered in marshmallow fluff. I 456 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: want it. Oh, okay, trip to Peru. Um, we need 457 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: to get a kid along the way. Uh. They also 458 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the Peruvian menus specifies that they have local beverages like 459 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: passion fruit juice and chita morata, which is a spiced 460 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: purple corn fruit drink beverage thing. Um. In Dubai as 461 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: an app TiSER, you can get come on bear bites. 462 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty fancy. It is Dubai. It's true. Also, speaking 463 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: of food, they also sell dairy products in grocery stores. What, 464 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I this is a thing that I never knew. I 465 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: missed this, but yeah, you can buy chuck e Cheese 466 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: branded string cheese, shredded cheeses and not one but four 467 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: flavors of yogurt in a squeezy tube. Um, they've got strawberry, blueberry, 468 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: melan berry, and cotton candy. Why the cheese? I get 469 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: melan berry. I want I want society to just take 470 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: a moment and think about what they've done. I want 471 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: someone to explain to me why melanberry yogurt in a 472 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: squeezy tube relates to chuck E cheese. I just want 473 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: some kind of clarity. Please. Mice like yogurt, all right, 474 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: the young, healthy hip moss likes yogurt in addition to 475 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: it's it's cool to like yogurt. Cool like yogurt? Clearly 476 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: I understand now, Thank you, Lauren. Um. We do have 477 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: a few other reasons that we think that chuck E 478 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: Cheese is cool, um, and we will get to them 479 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: after one more quick break for a word from our sponsor, 480 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: and we're back, Thank you sponsor. So yes, culture things. 481 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: It just so happens that right before this I was 482 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: watching UM Gravity Falls and there was an episode making 483 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: fun of chuck E Cheese. I was like, this is 484 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: fate and the animatronics go crazy and try to kill people. 485 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: And speaking of that, five nights at Freddie's is probably 486 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: one of the biggest examples of like a cultural Chuck 487 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: E Cheese thing. This this is I've never actually played it. 488 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: I know it's it's it's a video game though. Yes, 489 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a video game and it's pretty short if you 490 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: haven't heard of it. It's inspired by Chuck E Cheese 491 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: type restaurants where you're playing a security guard that has 492 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: to evade malfunctioning animatronics that will kill you. Yeah, you're 493 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: you're working at night, you're on the night watch, and 494 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: you only have a limited amount of power to supply 495 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: you through the night. And you can you look through 496 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: the security cameras, but that takes power. If you turn 497 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: on the lights, it takes power. If you close the 498 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: doors to protect yourself, it takes So you kind of 499 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: have to play a waiting game where they're getting closer 500 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: and closer and you have to like rashing out your 501 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: power and let them get closer until until it's just 502 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: hopeless and they kill you. Yeah. I I've never lasted 503 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: all five nights. Usually Bonnie the Bunny kills me. Okay, 504 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: she's really fast, she's the fastest one. Well, no, there's 505 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: there's like a secret one too, and he's way faster, 506 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: but he only comes out randomly, but that's not better. 507 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: The creator apparently got the idea for this game after 508 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: he was designing what was supposed to be a kid 509 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: friendly game and he got a lot of complaints about 510 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: it that the main character that was supposed to be 511 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: a happy beaver looked too much like a freaky animatronic 512 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: that would kill you. This was like complaint he was 513 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: getting in his inbox, and he was like, well, I 514 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: can do that instead. Interesting anyway, it's a It's a 515 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: great game if you have any interest in like jump 516 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: scares or I've played it at a party before where 517 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: we turned off the lights and I saw I could 518 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: last the longest because it's pretty. It's fairly short. Um, 519 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: it's super fun and there are five sequels. I want 520 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: to play the first one. But yeah, wor worth looking 521 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: into getting interested in a scary fun game? Ah? Oh yeah. 522 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: I sent Lauren the trailer. Um, I'm trying to get 523 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: her play. I don't know. I might have My ticker 524 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: is not as good as it used to be. Might 525 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I might have to little? However, speaking of games, um, 526 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: there's a great episode of the Freakonomics radio podcast that 527 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: goes into the token system. The Chuck E Cheese is 528 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: arcade games, use and and it. It's arguing that this 529 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: is kids first exposure to price theory. Oh really, price 530 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: theory being the concept of balancing supply and demand by 531 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: setting an appropriate price. Um, if you if you lower 532 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: the price for a good or a service, you can 533 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: increase demand for it, right because more more folks are 534 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: willing to pay for it when it's cheaper. Uh, you know, 535 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: It's why I like half a million people bought Lady 536 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: Gaga's digital album Born this Way during the first two 537 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: days that it was on the charts. It was priced 538 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: at all of a sudden. Everyone was like, sure, I'll 539 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: take it. For course, I'll take it. Why not? But 540 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: but there was an infinite supply of that thing. The 541 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: interesting thing about price theory is when you bound up 542 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: against the limits of a supply. Okay, the way that 543 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: this relates to check e Cheese, all the games in 544 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: check e Cheese locations take a single token to play, 545 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: and those token even out you know, across like deals 546 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: and bargains and whatever, to about twenty cents each. And 547 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: that didn't change from the nineteen seventies through this year, 548 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: it's been the same price to play a game all 549 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: of that time. And this was on purpose. Bushnell wanted 550 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: to keep people playing. They wanted to keep people there 551 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: buying more pizza and soda and beer and you know, 552 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: spending more money. So once you're there, it costs essentially 553 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: nothing to keep playing games. And of course there's going 554 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: to be a run on a few popular ones. Um. 555 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: But since the price of play is so low, you know, 556 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: there's always going to be someone who doesn't feel the 557 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: need to share and just totally camps their favorite cabinet, 558 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, like that guy at the buffet who takes 559 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: all the crab legs. That guy. It's it's it's the 560 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: most valuable experience. Um. And and it doesn't cost you 561 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: anything to shut other people out except for you know, 562 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: a little piece of your soul. Mm hmm. Don't be 563 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: that guy. I don't do it. This brings us to 564 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: public disturbances, Yes, this was um. I think the first 565 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: time Chucky Cheese came up in our office, it was 566 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: because somebody was telling the story of how he recently 567 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: learned that a lot of fights take place for for 568 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: for example, in one town in Wisconsin in two thousand 569 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: eight alone, local police had to break up twelve fights 570 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: among adults at Chuck E Cheeses is. Uh. That's more 571 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: than any other establishment in the area. Experienced public disturbance. 572 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: And in Oaktown, Illinois, outside of Chicago, police responded over 573 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: the course of five years to over three hundred calls 574 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: and made dozens of arrests. Dozens of arrests, multiple dozens, 575 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: more than one dozen. Again, these are adults that are 576 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: doing the fighting, um. And these places tried to make 577 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: it better, you know, they reduced crowding on the arcade floors, 578 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: they stopped serving booze um. But the altercations continued, and 579 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: one economic theorist blamed the low price point of the 580 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: games for driving demand to explosive levels. It was too high. Right, 581 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: your kids been on ski ball for twenty five minutes. 582 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: Ski ball was quite popular. Pop your right in the kisser. Yeah. Uh, 583 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: But the data doesn't necessarily bear out to that theory. 584 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting theory. But when when freakonomics looked 585 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: into the police reports, it seemed like domestic disputes, um, 586 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, estranged parents showing up at birthday parties and 587 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um. That that was the majority of 588 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: the problem, and and furthermore that the altercations happen with 589 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: a similar frequency at other booze and game places like 590 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: David Busters. Um, it just makes more sensational headlines when 591 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: it happens at check e Cheese, because it's because it's 592 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: check e Cheese. However, whether price theory is to blame 593 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: or not, Check e Cheeses are rolling out to r 594 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: F I D chip cards that you can, you know, 595 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: like load up and use for for play around the 596 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: arcade floor. I'm sure that you've seen cards like that 597 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: in different places, and that will allow them to track 598 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: user behavior and adjust price points on the fly to 599 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: finagal demand on the fly. Yeah. I'm like having to 600 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: hold myself back from saying wow one more time because 601 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: this a lot of this is just my brain cannot process. 602 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: It's a shockingly cutthroat industry, the eatertainment, rat themed pizza, 603 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: arcade midway place industry that one shockingly cut throat. Apparently, Well, 604 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: that brings us to the end of Chuck E Cheese. Yeah, however, 605 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: we do have for you some listener mail. We do, 606 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: April wrote in response to our French Cuisine episode medieval 607 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: cooks did not use spices to cover the taste of 608 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: rotten meat. For one thing, they would have all all 609 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: gotten sick. I'm a medieval re enactor and have done 610 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: a lot of research on medieval food. Spices in the 611 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Middle Ages were like a cross between truffles and saracha. Today, 612 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: they were like truffles because they were so expensive to 613 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: import and only rich people could afford them, So using 614 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: spices was the way of showing off how richie were. 615 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: They were like saracha because spices added a new and 616 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: different taste that made food more exciting. So let's put 617 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: them into everything. A friend who is a chef and 618 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: also a reenactor pointed out to me that medieval cookbooks 619 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,439 Speaker 1: tend not to mention certain facts of life that would 620 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: have been taken for granted. Fresh meat tended to be 621 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: more seasonal in the Middle Ages, and medieval cooks were 622 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: more likely to be working with salted meat and fresh 623 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: The strong sweet, slash, sour, and spice flavors in medieval 624 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: recipes were intended to balance the saltiness of preserved meat, 625 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: like the sweet spicy glazes we put on ham Ah 626 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely April and thank you so much fair for wading 627 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: in with that correction. Yeah, that was I kind of 628 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: flippantly said that thing in that up so but yeah, 629 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: and I just had never considered that. Yeah, they probably 630 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: were already salted. A lot of meat was probably already salted. Yeah, 631 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: it was an interesting thing that I had never thought 632 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: about it before. So yes, thank you, April. Absolutely Yeah. 633 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: Chantelle also wrote in about our French cuisine episode and 634 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: said it reminded me of how this applies to many 635 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: other areas of French culture. My mother moved to America 636 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: from France when she was young, so I have a 637 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: lot of families still living there. My cousin from Dijon 638 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: visited recently and while out shopping, she noticed the store 639 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: named dog Boutique. She was curious as to why they 640 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: used the French word boutique instead of shop. I explained 641 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: that some Americans consider French culture to be a fancy 642 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: and high class, so by using the word boutique, they're 643 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: not just a dog shop, but a fancy dog shop. 644 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: My cousin laughed at the absurdity, but soon came to 645 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: eat her words. After her visit, she updated her English 646 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: store sign, which she had in French, and English to 647 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: attract tourists and expats to include the word boutique, and 648 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: has said that her English speaking client tell his grown significantly. 649 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: While she can't correlate this increase directly to the sign change, 650 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty cool story, and so do we. Yeah, 651 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: that cracked me up. Yeah, because I hadn't really considered 652 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: the use of boutique in a similar way for a restaurant. 653 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: But yes, absolutely, yeah. Thanks also as well to our 654 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: audio engineer Tristan McNeil. We hope to hear from you. 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