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Speaker 2: in Ohio. And yes, this is a very special first

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Speaker 2: Friday Bye Week edition of the show. We've got a

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Speaker 2: big show for you, big, big, big we have got

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Speaker 2: from the Dog's Only podcast. Coming up Hall of Famer

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Speaker 2: Joe Thomas with Brown's offensive lineman Joel Botonio and Wyatt

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Speaker 2: Teller Part one talking about their high school sports days

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Speaker 2: and what other sports they played besides football. Spoiler alert

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Speaker 2: for you, Joel Buttonio was a heck of a basketball

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Speaker 2: player as a young man. Then you're gonna get part

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Speaker 2: two of that podcast with Joe Thomas, Joel Battonio, and

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Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller. Of course Joe Thomas nah Hof. The guys

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Speaker 2: talk about when in college when they thought they could

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Speaker 2: make it to the National Football League and you think

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Speaker 2: about those guys, Hof first round pick, Joel Botonio's second

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Speaker 2: round pick, why teller fifth round pick who and all

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Speaker 2: of them have been Pro Bowlers, all pros and both

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Speaker 2: and all three have done a very good job for themselves,

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Speaker 2: making quite a living here in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: And then you get part three of that. To round

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Speaker 2: out hour number one is the guys play a game

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Speaker 2: of most likely too most likely to what you'll have

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Speaker 2: to tune in and listen coming up to two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: From earlier today, Brown's general manager Andrew Berry gave his

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Speaker 2: state of the team by week press conference with the media.

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Speaker 2: We will have that for you in its entirety from

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Speaker 2: two o'clock. The bottom of this hour, as players and

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Speaker 2: coaches get ready to part from the bye week, we

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Speaker 2: hear from Brown's defensive captain Anthony Walker Junior, who addressed

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Speaker 2: the media earlier in this week. We'll have some final thoughts.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up for you, and then we'll be

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Speaker 2: back again tomorrow on Brown's Daily with pay attention to

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Speaker 2: the scores aka the College Fund, because baby scores have

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Speaker 2: been red hot. So all right, the team has departed.

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Speaker 2: The players, they've kind of got their time now for

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Speaker 2: the bye week. They will be back on Monday, getting

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Speaker 2: back to work, getting ready to address you know, get

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Speaker 2: to take on the San Francisco forty nine Ers, who

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Speaker 2: are playing the best football in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: So here we are. It's quarter the way through. Browns.

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Speaker 2: Two and two, right, not what anybody wanted. I think

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Speaker 2: we all wanted three and one in this opening stanza.

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Speaker 2: I think you look back at it and you say

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Speaker 2: to yourself, the Browns should be three and one, And

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Speaker 2: you go back to that Steelers game. The four turnovers,

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Speaker 2: two of them leading for defensive touchdowns. The Browns did

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Speaker 2: basically everything they could to lose that game, and that

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Speaker 2: And then you had obviously the loss most recently to

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Speaker 2: you're a Browns fan right now. You say to yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 2: not what we could have been, perhaps, but you're still there.

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Speaker 2: It's still all right in front of you, and you

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Speaker 2: bye week. They are currently undefeated. Week seven, you go

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Speaker 2: But if you take a look at the next five

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Speaker 2: four to four the rest of the way. So the

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Speaker 2: next five games for the Cleveland Browns, you got the Niners,

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Speaker 2: Three and two would put you at five and four

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Speaker 2: Plus the game script got away from them. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: The numbers are pretty simple under Kevin Stefanski. When the

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Speaker 2: It's negative on the turnover differential for the season. That

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Speaker 2: They cannot be their own worst enemy. They cannot beat themselves.

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Speaker 2: This d very much elite. Miles Garrett playing at an

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Speaker 2: this is a guy that's playing at a high level.

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Speaker 2: Really that defense is we talked about it playing a

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Speaker 2: You wanted to win it. Believe you me, everybody wanted

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Speaker 2: very toughest game that they will have the rest of

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Speaker 2: So you get two weeks to prepare, two weeks to

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Speaker 7: This is Joe Thomas, your Hall of Fame left tackle

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Speaker 3: So they were really good.

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Speaker 9: And I jumped out to like, you know, heads of screen,

437
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Speaker 9: and he just crossed over so aggressively and I was like, oh,

438
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Speaker 9: quite have the lateral sweet to state one dribbled down

439
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Speaker 9: the lane and just like posterized our point guard. And

440
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Speaker 9: I remember after the game, my coach Joe, you gotta

441
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Speaker 9: cut that off, and I was like, I'm gonna try to,

442
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Speaker 9: but I don't think I have that at my back,

443
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Speaker 9: Like that might not be my you know ability. But no,

444
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Speaker 9: there's some really good clay Comminis Thompson was for the well,

445
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Speaker 9: he was in that area too. He ended up playing

446
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Speaker 9: I think against Kwai like the final, So there's some

447
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Speaker 9: really good talented basketball players out there.

448
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Speaker 7: Tele fourteen points a game, he had to have the

449
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Speaker 7: green light out to the three point line, right like

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Speaker 7: where where did your coach allow you to let the

451
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Speaker 7: ball rip from?

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Speaker 9: So my junior year, I was definitely more of like

453
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Speaker 9: a role player, like there was another big man that

454
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Speaker 9: we rotate, so it just be like us, you know,

455
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Speaker 9: I buy three or four minutes, get tired, go to

456
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Speaker 9: the bench, you.

457
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Speaker 3: Know, come back in and play.

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Speaker 9: And then my senior year, I was probably our number

459
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Speaker 9: two option on offense. We had a guy go to

460
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Speaker 9: East Europe and so he was a good basketball player.

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Speaker 9: And that year I probably I would say I probably

462
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Speaker 9: made can't remember exactly, but five to ten three pointers,

463
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Speaker 9: like you know that trailer three. I was looking for

464
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Speaker 9: it the occasion and I hit one my last shot

465
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Speaker 9: in my high school. We were playing it, We're down

466
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Speaker 9: with like ten. I caught one like halfway to like

467
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Speaker 9: half court, and I just like threw on up and

468
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Speaker 9: I made it. So we lost the game by seven

469
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Speaker 9: points or whatever. Plot that's what My last shot was

470
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Speaker 9: a May three. There we go.

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Speaker 3: So I have a little bit of range. I showed

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Speaker 3: it yesterday in knockout.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great shot man.

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Speaker 9: I would say majority of my points are like offensive rebounds,

476
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Speaker 9: you know, quite a post up, maybe up and under.

477
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Speaker 3: You know, below the rim game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the details of your last high school game and

479
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Speaker 7: shot are impressive.

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Speaker 3: You could tell how important it was to you.

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Speaker 7: Right, how many times he's told that story about going

482
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Speaker 7: against Kawhi Leonard and nailing at three is his last

483
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Speaker 7: time walking off the high school basketball hardwood. I know

484
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Speaker 7: all about your basketball prowise. It's very impressive.

485
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Speaker 3: But why.

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Speaker 7: We never played together. So I'm curious what type of

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Speaker 7: a high school athlete you were.

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Speaker 8: Was it just football? Did you have a chance to

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Speaker 8: play some other sports? Did you have some other passions? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: so I grew up playing football, that entire life. But

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Speaker 8: my actual first sport was swimming. So my my freshman year, yeah, surprising,

492
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Speaker 8: my first my freshman year, my tricked me into getting

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Speaker 8: out to the swimming teams. I should just do it,

494
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Speaker 8: you know, I think I was just gonna, you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe do basketball or something like that, which I ended

496
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Speaker 8: up doing basketball later on in uh, in high school,

497
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Speaker 8: but baseball also was all. I always played baseball. I

498
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Speaker 8: wanted to be like my brother wasn't half as good

499
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Speaker 8: as him, but he always likes to say he wasn't

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Speaker 8: even an eight as good as me. And football, so

501
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Speaker 8: you know, it was I always grew up playing sports.

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Speaker 8: My mom was a uh a physical.

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Speaker 11: Education teacher, so jim coach and she, uh, you can't say, right,

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Speaker 11: she yeah, So she always instilled that, but she as

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Speaker 11: a teacher, she also instilled like, you know, just you know,

506
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Speaker 11: sports matter, put your academics matter more.

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Speaker 8: So she would always you know, incentivize playing or you know,

508
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Speaker 8: whenever and she had to pay for a sport or

509
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Speaker 8: something like that, she's like, yep, bees, you need to

510
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Speaker 8: make some eights. And so, you know, school was always

511
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Speaker 8: very important, but you know, growing up at you know,

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Speaker 8: I wrestled when I was younger, which you know, I

513
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Speaker 8: don't think I was very good at you know, I think,

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Speaker 8: uh well, I wasn't bad at but by I think

515
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Speaker 8: I was in fourth grade, I started wrestling with sixth graders.

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Speaker 8: You know that two years in wrestling is a lot.

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Speaker 8: So I started started losing a little bit, nothing like that,

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Speaker 8: but I was always competitive. You know, where I grew up,

519
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Speaker 8: it was kind of a small town, so you know,

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Speaker 8: a little bit bigger than my wife's town, but uh

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Speaker 8: still small town. So you know, if you didn't play

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Speaker 8: two sports of bree sports, yeah, that was just different.

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Speaker 8: You know, in Long Beach, you know, it's probably a

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Speaker 8: little different. The talent pool was absolutely crazy. But in

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Speaker 8: fuck your county and there wasn't. There wasn't the same

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Speaker 8: amount of talent.

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Speaker 3: Was your speedo your favorite uniform?

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Speaker 8: You or Ward never wore speed out jammers for the

529
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Speaker 8: leggings if you see likes nowadays?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bodies the body. Yeah, well I never thought it

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Speaker 3: wasn't that serious. I would actually like to see a

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Speaker 3: race here because Joe Thomas pretty good swimmer. I've seen it.

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Speaker 7: I'm okay, I'm okay, and I'm curious how good you

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Speaker 7: were at swimming, because like anybody can sign up for

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Speaker 7: the swim team.

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Speaker 3: But were you winning meats and stuff like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I usually placed first or second and whatever

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Speaker 8: I swim. And by the time that I did yeah,

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Speaker 8: by that time, I know what, by the time that

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Speaker 8: I finished our first meet, they put me in the

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Speaker 8: craziest things because you know, growing up swimming, not everybody

542
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Speaker 8: knows breashtop. Now everyone knows backstro some people don't trust it.

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Speaker 8: So uh, you know, by the two hundred am, I

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Speaker 8: think I had regional times, first meet, regional times and

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Speaker 8: almost everything I swam my gosh, yeah, so I then

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Speaker 8: you gate some.

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Speaker 3: Weight and then I gave a little bit of late

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Speaker 3: something buoyant I can help. Yeah, it's just sunk when later,

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Speaker 3: but you know it was by sophomore year.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't even think I buy the baseball

551
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Speaker 8: was about to start, so I, you know, the regional times.

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Speaker 8: I was like, this is yeah, this is just a

553
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Speaker 8: fun time. I'm not not taking it too serious. I

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Speaker 8: wanted to do the fifty meter freestyle. And because I've

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Speaker 8: been a sprin of my entire life and they always

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Speaker 8: put me in the long distance stuff. How long this

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Speaker 8: guy even though I was doing all of it. You know,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to. I think that I could have got

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Speaker 8: a state time and uh fifty three, but we had

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Speaker 8: to you know, they kind of have to give that

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Speaker 8: to the kids that don't know as much because kind

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Speaker 8: of participate.

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Speaker 7: In safety swimming and a half mile.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 8: So I think that it was a little bit of

566
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Speaker 8: samey uh precaution. But you know, I asked the swim

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Speaker 8: coaches if I could move to fifteen meter free and

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Speaker 8: they said no, and I was like, all right, well

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Speaker 8: I want to go if I want to have state times,

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to states. I'm I'm going to regional.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to districts. I just want to, you know,

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Speaker 8: do it. So they ended up not you know, Baseball

573
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Speaker 8: was the next week, and I ended up you know,

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Speaker 8: not finished season, but I think we had the saving

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Speaker 8: regial times and I didn't even act appalling, but it

576
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Speaker 8: was cool. And then baseball, you know, like I said,

577
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Speaker 8: I always did it. I want to be like my brother.

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Speaker 8: And then you know, it wasn't very good of it.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think I averaged like the three fifty

580
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Speaker 8: bag average, which isn't bad, but I mean, you're not

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Speaker 8: going to college on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three fifteen high schools, like fifty yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 8: Uh it was it ended up. You know, it was

584
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Speaker 8: fun played it. Played baseball my first two years, and

585
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Speaker 8: then our football coach was like, hey, it's it's time

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Speaker 8: to start folks to know football, said sir, Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: I just you know, my senior year, I wanted to

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Speaker 8: be a three sport athlete just before because I knew

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Speaker 8: that I was gonna be playing football. You know, basketball

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Speaker 8: and baseball would probably a past in my life. So

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Speaker 8: I went and played. I do remember my last baseball game.

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Speaker 8: In my last basketball game.

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Speaker 3: Basketball wasn't as.

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Speaker 8: Eventful as yours, but baseball, I had a walk off

595
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Speaker 8: double or I think you might have been a walk

596
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Speaker 8: off single that brought the guy from third. Okay, so

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Speaker 8: we tied for districts for the first time since my

598
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Speaker 8: brother was at the same high school. So I was

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Speaker 8: eleven years old, and okay, it was it was a

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Speaker 8: big deal. But again, you know, my brother would have

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Speaker 8: probably sent that over there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, did they have a parade for you in the

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Speaker 7: hometown where they took you on the fire engine from

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Speaker 7: your district.

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Speaker 3: Engratulation? Last games that don't matter matter and so.

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Speaker 7: That Joel game that you nailed that game where it

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Speaker 7: wasn't it was so you could lose my last and

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Speaker 7: double digits.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 6: Part two of the Dogs Only Podcast featuring Hall of

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Speaker 6: Famer Joe Thomas, Brown's offensive lineman Joel, Bytonio and Wyatt

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Speaker 6: Teller comes your way after this time out. I'm Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 6: Welcome into a first Friday edition of the program. It's

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Speaker 6: a bye week edition. It's kind of a getaway day

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Speaker 6: today we're hearing from the Dog's Only Podcast, where you

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Speaker 6: can hear from a lot of our current players, coaches,

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Speaker 6: front off personnel, and talking about a wide variety of topics.

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Speaker 6: Here is part two of this installment of The Dog's

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Speaker 6: Only podcast, featuring Hall of Famer Joe Thomas and Brown's

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Speaker 6: offensive lineman Joel Buttonio and Wyatt Teller. The guys talking

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Speaker 6: about when in college they thought they could make it

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Speaker 6: to the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: So, you guys obviously had a broad background in sports

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Speaker 7: growing up, but football ended up being your love.

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Speaker 3: Obviously part of it is because that's what you're really

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Speaker 3: good at. That's what God says.

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Speaker 7: That you're going to be three hundred pounds, You're probably

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Speaker 7: not gonna do a whole lot of other stuff. But

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Speaker 7: was there a point in college that you realize like, hey,

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Speaker 7: I might be good enough at this to be able

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Speaker 7: to go home and play at the next level.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean for me, you know, I was always

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Speaker 8: I was highly recruited and out of high school, so

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Speaker 8: out you know, blessing that in that degree. But when

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Speaker 8: I got to college, you know, they were like, oh,

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Speaker 8: you know, you can play defensive line. You're gonna play

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Speaker 8: defensive line in about two months in I didn't play

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Speaker 8: defensive line. They knew what they were doing I ended

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Speaker 8: up being the best thing for me. You know, I

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Speaker 8: have guys who you know, were much better athletes, who

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Speaker 8: you know didn't really get that opportunity. One, you know,

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Speaker 8: I had injury in my best friend video Mahoda. He

653
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Speaker 8: was a great player, but he had knee injuries. And

654
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 8: you know, he was faster than me, smarter than me,

655
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 8: and stronger than me. And you know, by the time

656
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 8: that we left college, I was stakpole that I moved

657
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 8: off into wine and found that niche, you know, a

658
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 8: little maller off off the left side. I never played

659
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 8: tackle like you know, Joel Joels an athlete, you know,

660
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 8: and I was stuck inside. But you know it was

661
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 8: it was a blessing. And I'd probably say, like, you know,

662
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 8: after my sophomore maybe my retro sophomore year, I realized that,

663
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 8: you know, I was good at what I was doing,

664
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 8: but I still, you know, didn't really believe it. Just

665
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 8: you know, you don't really think about it in the

666
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 8: future of the future of the future. You're just so

667
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 8: focused on the moment day by day. So you know,

668
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 8: it wasn't until like my my junior year that I

669
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 8: really realized that, you know, I could play this at

670
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 8: the next level, and then my senior year I had

671
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 8: kind of a downturn and play picked it up towards

672
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 8: the end of the season. But you know, ended up

673
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 8: being drafted their day like you guys. You guys are

674
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 8: pretty good. But you know I had to wait any

675
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 8: all five years and I needed all three days and

676
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 8: it worked out. So you started out on the defensive

677
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 8: side of the ball d MS.

678
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the tails all his time, right,

679
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: and you recruit the big white yes, two weeks in

680
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: the camps like offensive line.

681
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: We had offensive line coach Bob Wiley, and you always

682
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 7: said that the offensive line is the last bus stop

683
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 7: on the bus line because after that you're going to

684
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 7: be coaching, because there's no other positions that take less

685
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 7: athleticism and less talent than the offensive line.

686
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: And typically it starts out as tackle, and if you

687
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: can't do that, they move you to guard. If you

688
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: can't do that, they move you to center, and from

689
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: there they move you to coach and quality control.

690
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 7: So Joel obviously played the tackle at Nevada or Nevada

691
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 7: how you said.

692
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: If you're from I tend to correct people on Nevadas.

693
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 8: I say it right, now said al action. Right, So

694
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 8: if someone said appellation, yeah, that's good.

695
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: I think it's a running joke.

696
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

697
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 7: So Joel, when did you know that you were probably

698
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 7: gonna move to guard at the next level.

699
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 9: It was tough when I was going to the Senior Bowl,

700
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 9: so I played I played right. We had a weird offense,

701
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 9: but I uh, one year in college was like strong

702
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 9: side the week.

703
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 8: So I played right. O.

704
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: Man, you remember the right Yes, yes, you know, awesome Joe.

705
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 3: But I played right.

706
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 9: I played left, so I had some experience everything. I

707
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 9: went to the Senior Bowl and they're like, hey, we'll

708
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 9: get some reps at guard. So at that point I

709
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 9: was kind of like, all right, they want that, and

710
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 9: then like our tackles got hurt. So I ended up

711
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 9: playing left tackle the whole Senior Bowl and I was like, oh,

712
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 9: I did pretty good. You know, we'll see how this

713
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 9: turns out. And then you know, I get drafted completely

714
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 9: Browns and they happened to have a left tackle that's

715
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 9: already kind of played a lot and a rank tackle.

716
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 9: Good left hand, yeah, pretty good left tackle, and they're like, yeah,

717
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 9: you're probably gonna play guard for us, and I was like,

718
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 9: I can do that you know that, and you know

719
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 9: I got to play obviously between you and and Mac,

720
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 9: and that was kind of the position that I got

721
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 9: worked into. So I didn't really know like that. There

722
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 9: was a few teams that might have give me a chance.

723
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 9: It's out of tackle. But I think it worked out

724
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 9: really well. I think I fit, you know, the you know,

725
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 9: six four not the longest arms, you know, and something

726
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 9: like that. So I think I said, well a garden,

727
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 9: it worked out well for me. It's obviously worked out

728
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 9: well for both of you guys. But Joel, you were

729
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 9: a second round pick for the Browns, right at the

730
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 9: top there. Why he took a little bit longer route

731
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 9: to get to the Browns. You're drafted by Buffalo, we.

732
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 7: Said, fifth round, fifth round, and then after starting some

733
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 7: games your rookie year, you get traded to the Browns.

734
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 7: What was that emotion like after having some success there

735
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 7: as a rookie has a later round pick and then

736
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: being dull immediately right.

737
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 8: After that year?

738
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it was weird.

739
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 8: You know, when I came in, I think a couple

740
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 8: of weeks before the draft, they had Eric Wood, who

741
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 8: you know, they kind of knew that Eric Wood wasn't

742
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 8: going to be playing. He had a neck injury. You know,

743
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 8: I think he was on year eight or nine, and

744
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 8: then Richie Hangnito year thirteen. You know, you just finished

745
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 8: the thirteenth year. You know, they didn't know that he

746
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 8: wasn't gona be playing until the week or two before

747
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 8: you know, I got drafted, So that wasn't on there,

748
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 8: that their plan. But they kind of got got me

749
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 8: as a depic. So when I first got there, I was, oh,

750
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 8: you know, Richie, you know, I'm following twenty three years

751
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 8: the interior year talent.

752
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be awesome.

753
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 8: And all of a sudden that changed. They were both

754
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 8: both retired, and you know, it was it was. It

755
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 8: was definitely, uh, definitely tough to you know, Eric was

756
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 8: always around but and a great guy. But you know,

757
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 8: so I got to talk to him a little bit,

758
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 8: but he wasn't playing, so I didn't to really see

759
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 8: his you know, you know, his work or anything like that.

760
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 8: But you know, absolute great guy. And you know, Ritchie,

761
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 8: I never got to really meet Richie, but you know,

762
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 8: everything I've heard about him, you know, intense, The way

763
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 8: he worked out, the way he trained was you know, unbeatable,

764
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 8: so you know, respect to that. And then you know,

765
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 8: i'd watched that and try to try to emulate the

766
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 8: last stuff. That's really hard. You know, you're thirteen, you

767
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 8: know your technique, you know your fundamentals, so it's a

768
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 8: little weird.

769
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 10: Uh.

770
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 8: You know, I think I started by game nine, so

771
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 8: I think I had seven starts my first year, and uh,

772
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 8: you know, it was it was definitely rough. We didn't

773
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 8: have the season, they went from playoffs the year before,

774
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 8: you know, new new new middle linebackers. It was a

775
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 8: little bit of adjustment and you know, I just to

776
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 8: be honest, didn't put my best play out there. You know,

777
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 8: ended up getting traded after the uh, after camp the

778
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 8: next year. But you know, I thank God for that

779
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 8: every day because it brought me to somewhere where you know,

780
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 8: maybe I wasn't you know that not valued, but just

781
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 8: like you know, they knew that I had a price

782
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 8: that they could get draft picks or something like that,

783
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 8: and the Browns went to a team that really wanted

784
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 8: being you know, and blessed for that.

785
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 13: Uh.

786
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 8: And then you know, I think I started nine games

787
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 8: the next year, and then uh, a full season the

788
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 8: next year, and then full season.

789
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 7: Bill Callahan the offensive line coach here in Cleveland with

790
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 7: you guys, one of the most respected old line coaches

791
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 7: in the NFL.

792
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 8: What's it like being coached by Bill every day? Yeah,

793
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 8: it's it's it's hard some some days more than others.

794
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 8: You know, he's a great coach.

795
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 9: Uh.

796
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 8: You know, he's extremely smart, is extremely talented. What he does,

797
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 8: He's done it for so long. His experience speaks for itself,

798
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 8: you know, and his ability to you know, teach pretty

799
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 8: complex techniques in a you know, kind of elementary way

800
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 8: is what makes him so good. You know, he can

801
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 8: take a guy. I think in the year before he

802
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 8: came to Cleveland, I think he had like something like

803
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 8: fifty to sixty different combination of office wide and including

804
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 8: guys that did want to play the week before came

805
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 8: out and started for him. So, you know, it shows

806
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 8: that his ability to get guys ready is amazing.

807
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: You know.

808
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 8: So he's a great coach and you know, I'm blessed

809
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 8: to have him. Scottie Peters is the offensive line assistant.

810
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 7: He was the guy that hung around before he was

811
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 7: the coach here when Bob Wiley was around. So I

812
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 7: got a chance to listen to some of his thoughts

813
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 7: on the ole line plan. He was always a very

814
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 7: different thinker as far as your technique goes, very ahead

815
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 7: of his time. For a line coaches, what does he

816
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 7: bring to that unit, What does he bring to that

817
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 7: room from the offensive line coach standpoint.

818
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think his you know, the technical side of things,

819
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 9: and like you said, I do, like three four years

820
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 9: before he got hired, and we went through some things,

821
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 9: and to be honest, I was a little unsure. I

822
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 9: was like, I don't know, this doesn't seem you know,

823
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 9: like it works. But he's always like crafting his his

824
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 9: techniques year after year, Like we changed different strikes and stuff.

825
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 9: But he has such a good understanding of the body

826
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 9: and leverage that he shows away like hey, playing long

827
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 9: independent handstrikes recovery, which is like one of the biggest

828
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 9: things I would always tell people, you know, like Joe

829
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 9: Thomas's ability to recover. He wasn't always in the perfect position,

830
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 9: but yes, he had this uncanny ability to recover, and.

831
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: Like he does a lot of things with that as well.

832
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 9: And so to match him together, you know, with with

833
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 9: coach Callahan and the scheme and then him with the

834
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 9: technique in the in the past, bro and and really

835
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 9: trying different things. Yet you know, I know it was

836
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 9: a huge jump setter. They get here and they want

837
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 9: us to yell a lot more, you know, And so

838
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 9: I've learned to incorporated that type of stuff in my game.

839
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 9: But just having that guy and he's fun because he

840
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 9: gets out there with the guys and he's probably one

841
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 9: of the stronger guys like Scotty, like this is this

842
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 9: is unbelievable. He kind of run's a little bit like you.

843
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 9: He gets like people thinks he's Joe Toms a lot like.

844
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 14: Joe.

845
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he's both, yeah, exactly. He has Spain's running downs

846
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: like spilled the ward and.

847
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 8: Do uh.

848
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 7: That's awesome having him around and being able to give

849
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 7: you just different ways to skin the cat, right.

850
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 8: I always said that there's a lot.

851
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 7: Of good offensive linemen out there, and none of them

852
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 7: do it the same way, and so I think having

853
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 7: different perspectives is so important to be able to teach

854
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 7: a big group of guys because not everybody's gonna be

855
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 7: able to do it the same way.

856
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: You got to find your.

857
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 8: Own method, I'm always thought.

858
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 7: And you know, when Joel was a young left guard,

859
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 7: we'd give him tips and stuff, but his body was

860
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 7: just built differently, so it took him a little while

861
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 7: to figure out what.

862
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 8: Worked perfect for him.

863
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 7: I mean, his ankles don't bend, they're completely welded together,

864
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 7: so he's gonna play in his toes. But that's all right,

865
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 7: Like you got to find what works for you. And

866
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 7: this year a lot has been made this offseason about

867
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 7: this is Deshawn's offense, this is what he's comfortable with.

868
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 7: Him and Stefanski spent a lot of time together putting

869
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 7: together offense that works for him versus last year where

870
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 7: it was kind of Kevin's offense with a stack of

871
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 7: plays that Deshaun did well. So from your guys' perspective,

872
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 7: you know, how do you think this offense has evolved

873
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 7: and what do you think is going to be different

874
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 7: about it?

875
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 8: What are you guys gonna emphasize that you didn't last season? Yeah,

876
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 8: last year I think was a little weird.

877
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 3: He came in.

878
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 8: We had every intention that he was, you know, gonna

879
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 8: play early, ended up not played early. Game eleven was

880
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 8: when he came back, So it was like kind of

881
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 8: make a little transition with the quarterback we did, you know,

882
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 8: personnel stuff like that. So it's just a little bit different.

883
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 8: This year, we have a full offseason with him as

884
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 8: our in the helm. You know, so blessed with that.

885
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 8: You know, we're thankful that, you know, we can really

886
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 8: work the place that we're gonna be playing. You know,

887
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 8: last year it would be like we did all these

888
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 8: different uh you know, personnels and plays with Deshaun, and

889
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 8: all of a sudden we got Jakobe and it was

890
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 8: run the day of ball and it was nice, you

891
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 8: know then and uh, Jacobe, you know, he played great.

892
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 8: You know, then Deshaun came back and it was just

893
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 8: a little bit different of a play style. You know,

894
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 8: you got to stay in front of your block because

895
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 8: you don't know if he's going to be going out

896
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 8: the B gap or the A gap. You know, d

897
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 8: Kobe he would sit right there for as long as

898
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 8: he could and then throw the ball, and you know,

899
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 8: he was he was tough. He also you know, sold

900
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 8: the the late hits a little really well. So yeah,

901
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 8: you know, let from the best. Yeah, but he was,

902
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 8: he was great and uh, you know, you know, just

903
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 8: speaking of him as a guy, you know, I remember

904
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 8: one day after a press conference, we ended up winning

905
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 8: the game and he was wearing a Joel the NFL

906
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 8: things NFL DA and it had.

907
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 3: So as a quarterback, I've worn that a few times. Yes, yes, yes,

908
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: And you know as a quarterback to supporting your guys.

909
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 8: Like that, Yeah, that's got to feel pretty good. Yeah.

910
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 7: What's different blocking for Deshaun versus like Jacobe? Like what

911
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: makes it difficult having a guy that you don't know

912
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 7: where he's going to escape? Because I never really played

913
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 7: for a true scrambling quarterback like that where you have

914
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 7: no idea where they're going to be get outside of

915
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 7: two three seconds into the I think.

916
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 9: Especially for tackles, like knowing the depth of the pocket,

917
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 9: like how far back someone drops and how you can

918
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 9: you know, marry your sets and stuff like that. Also

919
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 9: knowing what you got to get a feel for when

920
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 9: he scrambles. So like last year, I definitely got call

921
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 9: for holding ones where I was like I got locked

922
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 9: up and then the Shawn runs out of the pocket and.

923
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: You just like, don't let go quick enough. So I

924
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: think getting that feeling of like, all right, my guy's

925
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: going that way, not warn't the quarterback? You know, I

926
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: can let him go here?

927
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 9: Getting them to say of that just having a little

928
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 9: bit more of those quarterback runs in the playbook, you

929
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 9: know where it's gonna it's gonna open things up.

930
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 12: Though.

931
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 9: But you see a team like you know, we just

932
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 9: practiced its Eagles, and they have so many RPOs and

933
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 9: things that are working in this league. And I think

934
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 9: having a guy like the Shan can add those into

935
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 9: the into the playbook.

936
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: So it's really just skeeting to.

937
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 9: Feel the timing, the depth of the pocket, really understanding

938
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 9: you know, what he does well. And I think we've

939
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 9: learned that. You know, you always think a blocked forever,

940
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 9: but with the Shawn, it's like he wants to make

941
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 9: the big play, you know what I mean. So a

942
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 9: pill hold on that ball and he's he's pretty strong

943
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 9: in that pocket. Though you get us all the other night.

944
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 9: You know, he take ahead and he can still still

945
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 9: get out of there.

946
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where we're just we're

947
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: just learning each other.

948
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then you have to run after the play

949
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 8: because he's trying to you know, run for don't anybody

950
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 8: hit up, you know, makeing sure you're the first one

951
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 8: there to pick them up. Yeah, it's gonna be really

952
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 8: fun for us fans. Being readier on.

953
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 7: The cusp at the start of the season to be

954
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 7: able to have that quarterback that you feel like can

955
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 7: make those big explosive game changing plays at any moment

956
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 7: and you're gonna have them for the entire season. So

957
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 7: I'm curious for you guys, being that you've been grinding

958
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 7: and training damp for a little bit a while though

959
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 7: here was there something that you did this summer or

960
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 7: maybe in the off season to help kind of recharge

961
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 7: your batteries as you guys are getting ready for the

962
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: grind of a football season.

963
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, there was definitely. You know, I had a baby,

964
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 8: so you know, I've had a you know, definitely time

965
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 8: that focused on him. But you know, also like you know,

966
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 8: training a little differently. You know, instead of just lifting

967
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 8: six hundred pounds over your head, you know, squad six

968
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 8: hundred pounds. You know, you're you're doing conditioning while also

969
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 8: lifting weights, you know, Zurcher carry stuff like that, where

970
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 8: it's like, you know, we're gonna be moving, so we

971
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 8: got I'd be ready to go. You know. When I

972
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 8: came in, I think, uh, you know, I think uh,

973
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 8: our Dexas were low as a as an offensive line,

974
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 8: which is good. You know, it means that we're you know,

975
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 8: burning the burning the fat often getting ready to go.

976
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 9: Now about you, Joel, I, I enjoyed a lot of golf,

977
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 9: so I mean great golf. It's great golfer. I wouldn't

978
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 9: say great, but I appreciate that way. No great, No,

979
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 9: we you know, I spent the time in California with

980
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 9: the family and my family, you know, most of my

981
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 9: family's out there, but the kids, uh, you understand, like

982
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 9: kids running around. We visited Wisconsin, so I got to

983
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 9: see you know, the Zeitler's, yeah, you know, Wisconsin Palace

984
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 9: up there.

985
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: In Wisconsin, and that was that was my first experience

986
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: out there besides playing you know, in Green Bay. So

987
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: it was fun.

988
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 9: But really for me now it's getting away spending the

989
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 9: time of the family because you know, in season it's

990
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 9: a little bit it's a little bit more. But you know,

991
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 9: I kind of know where my body's at now. So yeah,

992
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 9: it's like I could train, I can, I'd do all

993
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 9: at work, but me and me and you know, Cordy

994
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 9: have picked up golf and and I'm trying to play

995
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 9: a box you know, was shooting in the eighties this year.

996
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 9: Also the time so I'm feel better, you know, hopefully

997
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 9: when I lose some weight, get some more rooms.

998
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think my inkle mobility has

999
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: improved him all bringing that up. You know, I don't

1000
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: play my toast as much as I didn't. Really. I

1001
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: still do play on my toes though there's nothing but

1002
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: He's it's unbelievable.

1003
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 7: I know, you got to have stiff ankles to be fast. Yeah,

1004
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 7: you've checked up box. There's no thought about that.

1005
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: I see you've got a Lakewood country Club at on Live.

1006
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 8: Do you like to get out on the golf course

1007
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 8: and swing the sticks? Yeah, so I don't.

1008
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 3: I don't.

1009
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 8: I'm not as good as Joel, so I'll spend as

1010
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 8: much time on the on the golf course. But we

1011
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 8: did actually get to go out play. And you know,

1012
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 8: anytime that Joel was in the sand, he was. It

1013
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 8: was amazing.

1014
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 7: He's appy to get out and so you're saying he

1015
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 7: was on the sand a lot, a lot.

1016
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 8: You know, some people say, you know, you you lay

1017
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 8: up and he just absolutely just going out.

1018
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: I've never said the Joel is up but anything, but

1019
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: it was.

1020
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 10: It was.

1021
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 8: It was impressive, you know, watching him play, and you know,

1022
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 8: I think there was a couple holes there where I

1023
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 8: was just putting out of my mind and.

1024
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 9: They had like ten straight one plus. Yeah, it wasn't

1025
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 9: maybe pretty getting to the green, but he was making

1026
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 9: every So we've been a good scramble team.

1027
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 10: Yes.

1028
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 8: Yes, so you took all of his money, is what

1029
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 8: you're trying to tell me.

1030
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm happy to hear that. Hopefully that you guys bought.

1031
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 8: A few dinners for each other here in training camp

1032
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 8: and make.

1033
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 7: Sure to return the filler for all those beautiful eighteen

1034
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 7: whole rounds they should bought for each other.

1035
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,360
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Speaker 6: Here's part three. Hall of Famer Joe Thomas, Brown's offensive lineman,

1052
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1054
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1055
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Speaker 7: With a little bit of rapid fire questions, because everybody

1056
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: love is the rapid fire question and this can be

1057
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 7: anybody on the team. Oh god, so it doesn't have

1058
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 7: to just be present company hereself. Who is the most

1059
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: likely to dance.

1060
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 8: At a club?

1061
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: John Kelly, John Kelly good dancwer? Does he like to

1062
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: show off the thicky always dancing?

1063
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 15: You know?

1064
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: I mean that was the first name that popped on head.

1065
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1066
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 8: And Delon can dance a little bit. He's always the

1067
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 8: same music.

1068
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: He's always got his headphones.

1069
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 16: It fellows got TJ might be the best dancer if

1070
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 16: he danced at a club, he could definitely.

1071
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 8: We had a Halloween party a couple of years. He

1072
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 8: was real, he thought I had absolutely we got to

1073
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 8: get some video that that'd be amazing.

1074
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 17: All.

1075
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 8: Who's the most likely to pick up a check at dinner? Jack?

1076
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: Joel?

1077
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 9: I mean when it comes off, it's a line, you know. Yeah,

1078
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 9: we have a pretty good rotation. We have like a

1079
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 9: bunch of older guys, have a lot.

1080
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 3: Of rich guys. What you're saying, nobody minds picking up

1081
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 3: last night around here, you know, but no Green Byre

1082
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: I picked it up last night. Jack and White picked up.

1083
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: So we have a good little yeah, and no one ever,

1084
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, argues with it.

1085
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 8: It's like, hey, you're picking yeah, so jed yous dinner?

1086
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Speaker 8: And I'm coming this that. Who's the most likely to

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00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 8: be an NFL coach?

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00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Joe No on the whole team? Yeah, on the whole team.

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: Joel's gonna be golfing too much?

1090
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 9: Yea, thats the point. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm gonna go.

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00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 9: I think Dobbs's find to do it. You know, but

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00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 9: he might want to do you know, his ass gro not.

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00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's pretty smart, you know I think that, Uh,

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00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 8: you know Ethan Posk, he's a He's really an intelligent guy.

1095
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 8: You know, Nick Harris, I feel like.

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00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 9: Shobe and like high school, like you love. He just

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00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 9: loves around the guest. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

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00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 7: Who's got the dirtiest locker was the biggest slob? We

1099
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 7: talked about this all the time.

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00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 8: There's guys who might have a dirty locker, but they

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00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 8: keep everything in their locker right, And there's people who

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00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 8: don't do that as much. You know, I'm not I'm

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00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 8: not gonna get.

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00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 3: Well, you can name names nobody. Jeremi podcast so jeremiade.

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00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 12: Lo.

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00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 8: I catch myself walking by their lockers all the time, picking.

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00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 9: Up, like I have a lot of clothes to have

1108
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 9: a lot of years. So my locker looks like it's

1109
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 9: like messy, but it's all clean clothes, just piled up.

1110
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, he knows where everything is though it's a big

1111
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 8: you know what, that's all the right out.

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00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: Ye, that's amazing. Does Joel have a favorite shirt? Is

1113
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: there like that one? Go two shirts that he just

1114
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: wears every day every.

1115
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 8: Year you kind of have like a different shirt and

1116
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 8: everyone fait, okay whatever.

1117
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: I love this. Guys look good.

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00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, well I don't have you know, the the dryers

1119
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 9: at the facility. I believe shrieks some shirts. I'm not

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00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 9: getting weight.

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00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: I know that, so, of course not.

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00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 9: I've never waives myself, but I do have this footy

1123
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 9: for my rookie year that the sleeves are cut off

1124
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 9: that if I'm doing a big arm pump. I mean

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00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 9: it's only once or twice, you know, I camp or something.

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00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: Like that, but that's my my go to you probably, Yeah, I.

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00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 8: Noticed the sweatshirts. After a couple of washes they start doing,

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Speaker 8: They'll tell you fucking fat pan.

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00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: That's all you know.

1130
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 7: I know it's in season, but come on, yes, big

1131
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 7: guys always have that fat anxiety and.

1132
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Little this season.

1133
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 7: I wait myself, but this shirt's getting really tight.

1134
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in trouble here.

1135
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 7: They're gonna send me to fat camp after practice and

1136
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to ride the bike.

1137
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: Last question, I appreciate the time from you guys today.

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00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 8: Who's the one person that you would never allow controlling

1139
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 8: the music in the weight room. I feel like people

1140
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 8: have allowed me to. But I know that no one

1141
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 8: likes to put on some country and everything. They won't

1142
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 8: say anything. I guess that respect. But uh, you know

1143
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 8: Jack Coglin, he puts on this. Man will put on

1144
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: like eighty M and it's like, are we in a club?

1145
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 8: Lift it?

1146
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: I love it?

1147
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: I love it?

1148
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 8: Like, like, what's that two Friends? Is that the band

1149
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 8: that does the big Booty mix or something like that?

1150
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: Put that on SoundCloud. Yeah, thats like Switches song. Oh yeah, yeah,

1151
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: yeah yeah.

1152
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 8: It's a j focus and the focus it's like righters

1153
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 8: are about to get to the good part of the song.

1154
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 9: It doesn't for me because then like that, you know,

1155
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 9: a good song will come on. I'm like, oh yeah,

1156
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 9: and it changes. But I'm like the least music guy

1157
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 9: in the weight room. Like I'm kind of one of

1158
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 9: the older guys. Now they're like, Joeli, you get the music,

1159
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 9: and I'm like, really don't want that responsibility right now, you.

1160
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: Know, so I kind of let it flow.

1161
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 16: He always turns on how Chili Peppers I do like

1162
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 16: a baby like Kelly Vibes is kind of like the

1163
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 16: what you listen to in those formative years like middle school,

1164
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 16: high school, like whatever you listen to.

1165
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: That's what you're gonna go back to when you're in

1166
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: your thirties and forties.

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Speaker 7: Not to say you're old or anything, Joel, but if

1168
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 7: you do like country in the weight room but nobody

1169
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 7: else does, there's some good country medium mixes on SoundCloud.

1170
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 7: MC forty is like a DJ group that does mix

1171
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 7: ups and mashups with country and electronic, which is really good.

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00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: So you guys should check that out. I feel like

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00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 3: that might be a crowd. Please.

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00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: Jelly Rolls come out with some really Yeah, I don't

1175
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 8: like some.

1176
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 7: Hip hop country crossover that I feel like might appeal

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00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 7: to some anybody. Yeah, yes, broader audiences.

1178
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 8: So it's hard when you put on you know, Eric

1179
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 8: Church and every song is a little slow, and.

1180
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want slow in the weight room.

1181
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 9: I'm getting old because we've had the rookie scene for us,

1182
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 9: you know, do the thing, and I can mber one for.

1183
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 8: Like ten on doing what.

1184
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 17: Say.

1185
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: Everybody starts chanting and like, yeah, I'm like the song.

1186
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 9: Oh, so I gotta I gotta help my music game.

1187
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 9: You're back to your crossword puzzle. You're like, all right,

1188
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 9: you guys, tell me.

1189
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: What you're done. Yeah, well.

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Speaker 7: Keep you sharp and engaged in your crosswords, but I

1191
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 7: really appreciate you guys coming on the podcast today.

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00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 8: We should the best of luck the rest of the

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00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 8: preseason and as we start the season.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having Thanks guys, Our one is in

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Speaker 4: the books.

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Speaker 6: Up next, you'll hear from our general manager Andrew Berry,

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Speaker 6: who addressed the media earlier today. You're listening to Cleveland

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Speaker 6: our two of Cleveland Browns Daily on this first Friday

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00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 6: bye week edition. The guys are back in studio tomorrow

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00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 6: never fear. It's kind of a getaway day for us.

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00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: We'll explain it on Thursday as to what we were

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00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 6: up to. But today the guys are off and you're

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00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 6: hearing from our general manager now, Andrew Berry. He addressed

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00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 6: the media earlier today. It's an annual tradition that the

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00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 6: general manager talks during the team's bye week. Andrew Berry

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00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 6: no different. Andrew Berry giving a state of the team

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 6: address through the first four games of the season and

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Speaker 6: what's to come in the rest of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 6: Here's part one and have a listener.

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Speaker 13: Okay, So, first of all, good morning, I want to

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00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 13: just say at the front end, I'm going to ask

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00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 13: you guys to bear with me. I actually got a

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00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 13: fair amount to say that I want to cover.

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: On the front end.

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00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 13: I will make sure that you guys have enough time

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00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 13: to ask the questions that you need, but it's gonna

1228
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 13: be a little bit longer than I typically am, so

1229
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 13: I just asked for a little bit of a little bit.

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00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 4: Of patience there.

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00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 13: So okay, So going into two week five, I think

1232
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 13: the the bye week comes at a really.

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00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: Perfect time for our team.

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00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 13: And to be truthful, I've never really been a fan

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00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 13: of the early buy, largely because you know you're playing

1236
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 13: you know, less than a quarter of your regular season

1237
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 13: games before you get a before you get a break.

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00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 13: But I think for us in this specific team, it

1239
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 13: comes at a good point, you know, not just because

1240
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 13: it gives us an opportunity to get healthy, but it

1241
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 13: gives us this deliberate pause that allows us to you know,

1242
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 13: lean into an identity that would allow us to play

1243
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 13: games of relevance, games of consequence, you know, late in

1244
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 13: the year. I should say this, not just playing them,

1245
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 13: but have the opportunity to flourish and you know, win

1246
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 13: in those win in those competition. As I think about

1247
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 13: the first four weeks of the season, just kind of

1248
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 13: going into too each phase.

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00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 12: You know.

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 13: Defensively, we've been very good, and I would like to

1251
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 13: give a, you know, a ton of credit to Jim and.

1252
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: The defensive staff.

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Speaker 13: They've done a fantastic job of you know, preparing our guys,

1254
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 13: developing our guys on a weekly basis. I think it's

1255
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 13: been really cool to see the aggressive mentality that that

1256
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 13: side of the ball has played with and honestly, quite honestly,

1257
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 13: the level of joy and fun that they've had on

1258
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 13: a weekly basis playing together, and I think our stars,

1259
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 13: they've really delivered. And then you see players like you

1260
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 13: know Mohurst, you know, j Okay, Grant, Delpit, Martin Emerson,

1261
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 13: you know Obo playing in much bigger roles than they

1262
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 13: have at any point in their career and performing at

1263
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 13: a really high level for us. So now our challenge

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 13: on that side of the ball coming out of the

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 13: buy will be to have the appropriate counter punches as

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 13: our opponents respond and adjust to the things that we've

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00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 13: done well early in the season. Going to the kicking game,

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00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 13: you know, Bubba and Bravo, they've done a nice job

1269
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 13: of stabilizing the kicking units. You know, Kevin, he has

1270
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 13: a saying that he always he always uses. He says,

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00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 13: if the map is different than the terrain, go with

1272
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 13: the terrain. And I think about that a lot with

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00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 13: special teams because if you look at it, we lost

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00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 13: Jaquem Grant for the year. You know, with Knick's injury,

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 13: it has a ripple effect in special teams, right Jerome

1276
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 13: forty is no longer on the coverage and return units.

1277
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 13: You lose arguably our best, you know, special teamer for

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00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 13: the first part of the season. In Jordan Kunashik, and

1279
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 13: then we made personnel changes at the kicker position. So

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00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 13: the way that we're playing in the kicking units is

1281
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 13: much different than we envisioned going into the season, and

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 13: Bubba and Brabo have done a nice job of adjusting

1283
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 13: and leaning into our coverage units, you know, while Dussin

1284
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 13: has done a nice job of turning possessions into points

1285
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 13: for us in some pretty difficult circumstances. And then offensively,

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 13: you know, we're really looking forward to use this bye

1287
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 13: week to you know, really return to the level of

1288
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 13: consistency in the standard that Kevin has really set there

1289
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 13: on that side of the ball since he's been here

1290
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 13: in twenty twenty. And you know, no doubt with having

1291
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 13: Deshaun for a full season, you know, losing Nick, losing

1292
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 13: Jack Conklin, that you know, it'll look different than we've

1293
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 13: been accustomed to seeing over the first three years.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have no doubt that that you.

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00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 13: Know, not only we'll be able to meet, but kind

1296
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 13: of exceed, you know, the standard that that that we've

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00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 13: seen the first you know, three years that Kevin has

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 13: been the you know, has been the head coach here.

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Speaker 13: Thinking further, I guess on the offense, you know, the

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Speaker 13: the before we get into anything schematic in any you know, personnel,

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Speaker 13: you know review that we do as is our custom

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Speaker 13: during the bye. The really the number one thing that

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Speaker 13: we have to do is something that Kevin has preached

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Speaker 13: since the day he got the job, and that's protect

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00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 13: the football. We've turned the ball over ten times this season,

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00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 13: and we've lost the turnover battle in all four games

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00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 13: that we've played this year, and quite honestly, that's not

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 13: a sustainable way to win football games, you know, in

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Speaker 13: the NFL. So that's really the first thing that we

1310
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 13: have to get corrected. I do think that we've seen

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Speaker 13: what this particular group is capable of, you know, namely

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Speaker 13: in the Tennessee game, and I think we've also had

1313
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 13: some bright spots with you know, setbacks creating opportunity, whether

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 13: it's the performance Jerome Ford or you know, the entrance

1315
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 13: of Dewan Jones into the starting lineup. But we still

1316
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 13: have work to do to get back to the standard

1317
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 13: that we need to that we need to meet a

1318
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Speaker 13: couple of things. Culturally, we have a really good group

1319
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 13: of players who are incredibly hard working and want to

1320
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 13: do well for our fans. The city and the team,

1321
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 13: and I think about David and Joku playing this last Sunday,

1322
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 13: you know, literally with his face painfully, you know, blistering

1323
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 13: in this you know, skin peeling, just so we can

1324
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 13: be there for his teammates. I think about like the

1325
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 13: last ten months with you know, a walk and TAKEI

1326
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 13: and j Okay competitively rehabbing so they can beat all

1327
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 13: the medical estimates and be ready for the start of

1328
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 13: the season. I look every day out in practice and

1329
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 13: watch Amari and Elijah and Donovan do extra skill work

1330
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 13: one wind sprint so they can be ready for the

1331
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 13: no huddle attack. And even honestly, like our younger players

1332
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 13: like Mamou Diabate and Tanner McAllister competing for nutrition goals

1333
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 13: as they kind of like buy their time for larger roles.

1334
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 13: And then even within our young veteran group, you know Grant,

1335
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 13: Greg martin Ian embracing their role on special teams because

1336
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 13: they want to do anything that can allow our team

1337
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 13: to win. And you know, this group of players has

1338
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 13: been personally warning to see this group of players come

1339
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 13: together in that manner, and you know, really kind of

1340
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 13: embraced that mentality in an environment that our coaches and

1341
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 13: support staff have have have really created The last thing

1342
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 13: I want to touch on just you know, to our fans.

1343
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 13: I really want our fans to enjoy and lean into

1344
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 13: the process of suit me up. So I want them

1345
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 13: to enjoy and lean into this process of watching this

1346
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 13: team become fully formed throughout the year. You know, yesterday

1347
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 13: I was talking with you know, A walk and Rodney

1348
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 13: on their podcast, and the question that came up is,

1349
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 13: you know, what is it that makes Cleveland Brown's fans

1350
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 13: you know special? And for me, it's the loyalty and

1351
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 13: it's the passion. And so a quick story about that.

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00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 13: When Nick got hurt during the Pittsburgh game that Wednesday,

1353
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 13: I came into the office and Debbie Krazinski, who's our

1354
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 13: longtime Orger travel manager provides personnel.

1355
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: And coaching supports, she came into my office.

1356
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 13: She was like, hey, you know, Andrew, I got this

1357
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 13: call from Grindstone Elementary, which is you know, right down

1358
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 13: the street in Borea, and they basically said they had

1359
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 13: classes that you know, they made these get well cards

1360
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 13: for Nick Chubb and they wanted to see if they

1361
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 13: could send them to the facility and there would be

1362
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 13: a way that he would get them. So later in

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Speaker 13: the day she comes back and she walks into my

1364
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 13: office and she has this like huge stack of probably

1365
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 13: like maybe thirty to thirty five get well cards with

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 13: you know, handwritten notes, drawings in Nick Chubb, maybe one

1367
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 13: or two autograph requests, And it was like, man, this

1368
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 13: is really cool, Like right, this is really cool. It's

1369
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 13: not and it's not to me. It's not just emblematic

1370
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 13: of our young fans, but like, that's what it's like

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00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 13: with the Cleveland Browns in Northeast Hog. There's this love,

1372
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 13: there's this passion, there's this loyalty for the team, and

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 13: those characteristics are what allows me to know that Cleveland

1374
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 13: brown Stadium can really be a hornet's nest for our

1375
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 13: opponents when they come in. But in order for us

1376
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 13: to do that, in order for us to create that environment,

1377
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Speaker 13: we really have to earn it. And so for me,

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Speaker 13: you know, I think the one defining characteristic of you know,

1379
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Speaker 13: really good teams or teams that play late into the

1380
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 13: season is you know, this ability to overcome, you know,

1381
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Speaker 13: in game adversity. And I have no doubt that our

1382
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 13: group is is physical, is tough, and is competitive, but

1383
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Speaker 13: you know, our job in these moments that are going

1384
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 13: to happen to every team, and not only just to compete,

1385
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 13: but perform at our highest capabilities, you know, not just

1386
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 13: when the wind is at our back, but we're also

1387
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 13: we're facing a really really strong headwind. And I think

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01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 13: the beauty of the seventeen game grind that it's in

1389
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 13: the NFL season, it's a really long season, is that

1390
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Speaker 13: you are afforded these opportunities to develop this callus as

1391
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Speaker 13: you go, and we're still working to develop that that

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01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 13: callous to overcome. But I feel really good about this group.

1393
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 13: And when we have that seminal moment when we're able

1394
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 13: to accomplish that, that's the point where I'll feel like

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Speaker 13: we're fully formed as a team.

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Speaker 4: So I know that was a lot. I know that

1397
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Speaker 4: was really long.

1398
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Speaker 13: You know, I know Tom's eyes already glossed over and

1399
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 13: then may be a little bit of drool in the

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Speaker 13: corner of Tony's mouth. So I'm going to open it

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 13: up right now for for any questions that you guys

1402
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 13: may have.

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Speaker 3: Is there any concern that the shoulder injury.

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Speaker 8: Will affect the Shawn's ability.

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Speaker 3: To pass going forward?

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Speaker 4: We you know, Jake a good question.

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Speaker 13: You know, we we don't view it as a as

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Speaker 13: a long term injury or you know, I think Kevin

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01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 13: mentioned earlier the week, there's there's nothing structural. You know,

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Speaker 13: we are optimistic that you know, it'll it'll heal in

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Speaker 13: the short term and he'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 18: It's a little bit of a kind of a communication

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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 18: issue in terms of whether or not you guys expected

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Speaker 18: to DeShawn to play on Sunday, and then whether or

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Speaker 18: not he should have played on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Can you just kind of take us through thought process over.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So, you know, we were optimistic, you know that

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 13: he would play. He was optimistic that he would play.

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Speaker 13: He worked his tail off during the week to rehab

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Speaker 13: and be ready to go. When we got out on Sunday,

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Speaker 13: and when we took him through the pregame workout, it

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01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 13: became obvious to all of us that he couldn't throw

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 13: or drive the ball, you know, well enough to perform

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01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 13: in the game. Like it just wasn't at a level

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 13: where you know, we felt comfortable that he could ultimately

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Speaker 13: perform the duties of his of his position. You know,

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Speaker 13: if he was a you know, a running back or

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Speaker 13: a defensive tackle or something along those lines. You know,

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Speaker 13: it's it's something that it wouldn't have necessarily affected his

1430
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 13: job requirements, and you know he would have been okay,

1431
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Speaker 13: But this is your your quarterback, and his job is

1432
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 13: to throw the ball anywhere from you know, thirty to

1433
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 13: thirty five times a game. And if he can't push it,

1434
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Speaker 13: if he can't drive it, if he can't throw it

1435
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Speaker 13: down the field, which became very evident early in the workout,

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Speaker 13: you know, it became a very easy decision for us

1437
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 13: not to.

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Speaker 4: Put him out there.

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Speaker 6: Berry's State of the Team press conference at the bye week.

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Speaker 3: Have a listen, Andrew.

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01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 18: I don't think I've ever heard you deliver like a

1457
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 18: state of the union like that to open a press

1458
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 18: or I'm just curious why you wanted to.

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Speaker 19: Do that today.

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Speaker 13: So we talk about with our players oftentimes like self improvement, right,

1461
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 13: like the idea of like how can you do your

1462
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 13: job better? And you know, quite honestly, Dan, like I

1463
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 13: look at myself the same way, Like, just candidly, I

1464
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 13: don't think that I've done in these settings because, to

1465
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 13: be honest, public speaking and talking in front of you

1466
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 13: is not my favorite thing in terms of the job.

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 13: But taking these opportunities to really do a better job

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 13: of pulling back the curtain on the really good things

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 13: that are that are that are going on within the

1470
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 13: organization as well as some of the things that we

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 13: have to make improvements, so hopefully a turn for the

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Speaker 13: better or at least a turn for the more interesting

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Speaker 13: for you all.

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Speaker 4: But that's really all that that prompted him.

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Speaker 3: Do you revisit the trade of jobs. Why was that

1476
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: a good idea in your mind? And was the coach

1477
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: ever worked that it would be a possibility.

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, so let me answer the second question first, Tony.

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 13: You know, I've never believed in surprising you know, the

1480
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 13: coaching staff with with roster move.

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 4: We always have.

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Speaker 13: You know, a ton of communication before before anything happens, really,

1483
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 13: any any transaction, Tony, in terms of you know, trading Josh,

1484
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 13: like you know, obviously we had a high opinion of Josh.

1485
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 13: You know, he's been here, he had been here for

1486
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 13: for you know, two seasons. I've often talked up here

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01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 13: about the general manager's role having a uh foot in

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01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 13: the president and the foot in the future, and certainly

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Speaker 13: you know that consideration in that transaction, you know, has

1490
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 13: you know, has elements of that. I thought was the

1491
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 13: best decision. We were really excited to work with, to

1492
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 13: work with Dorian and see him progress and and and develop.

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01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 13: But thought that was the right move, you know, thought

1494
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 13: it was the right move for the organization both short

1495
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 13: and long term.

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Speaker 10: It was kind of in a little bit of a

1497
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 10: tough spot Sunday. A lot of guys said game plan

1498
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 10: wasn't altered. It was basically the if DeShawn would have started.

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Speaker 10: Just how do you evaluate how he played and how

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01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 10: comfortable are you with him as the number two being

1501
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 10: able to step in there at some point and having

1502
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 10: to win a game for you of you know, late in.

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01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 3: The season if he's called one.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Darryl, there is a saying that I love where

1505
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 13: it's experienced is a experience is a hard teacher because

1506
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 13: it gives the test first and the lesson afterwards. And

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Speaker 13: I felt like, you know, any certainly, any rookie quarterback

1508
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 13: could probably attest you know, during their first start. You

1509
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 13: know that that you know that is the case. You know,

1510
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 13: certainly challenging circumstances. But you know, I know, you know,

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Speaker 13: Dorian's not making any excuses for it. Like that is

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Speaker 13: the role of the backup to be able to step

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01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 13: in at a you know, at a moment's notice. And

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01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 13: I think just you know, realistically, like when you lose

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01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 13: a game twenty eight three, you don't play play well

1516
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 13: on offense, you know, we all look at you know,

1517
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 13: what we could have done differently too, you know, to

1518
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 13: to support him. But you know, we'll continue to work.

1519
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 13: We'll we'll grow from it. We'll we'll learn from it,

1520
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 13: you know, and we'll we'll we'll move forward with him.

1521
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 20: And you have a you know, the thing is that

1522
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 20: you don't have a veteran backup quarterback. I kept forgetting

1523
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 20: it at Walker on the roster pure second guess easy

1524
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 20: in the very mire to see it. If it's a

1525
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 20: guy you got to throw in quickly. I think he

1526
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 20: started five games for Carolina, numbers more and terrible.

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01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 8: Why not him in a situation?

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01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think so a couple of things. We feel

1529
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 13: good with Dorian, We feel good with you know, PJ.

1530
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 13: He was one of the first uh you know, roster

1531
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 13: transactions we pursued when we were building the practice squad.

1532
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 13: We do feel good about the group. And I would

1533
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 13: say number one, like you know, ultimately, you know that's

1534
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 13: going to reside in our coaching staffs in terms of

1535
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 13: how they're prepping guys and how they're doing during the week.

1536
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 13: We do feel good about, you know, both players, if

1537
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 13: they're if they're you know, press into action. I think

1538
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 13: just the other part of it is, you know, Dorian

1539
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 13: had been with us, you know, throughout the entire spring,

1540
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 13: the entier, entire summer. He had done good work. He

1541
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 13: had a good practice week. You know, he look just

1542
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 13: didn't play well. We just didn't play well.

1543
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: So r being the number two quarterback going forward.

1544
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't envision any major major changes.

1545
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 3: In the room.

1546
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 21: Jake and you talk about a no long term concerned

1547
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 21: with Deshawn's shoulder, But to considering the style he plays,

1548
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 21: you know, how much running is this part of his game?

1549
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 21: Is that something in your back of your mind that

1550
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 21: I mean, could it be something that lingers because I

1551
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 21: mean just the number of shots he potentially could take.

1552
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, DeShawn has been very durable throughout you know,

1553
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 13: his career, and although he is mobile, he really is

1554
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 13: a passer first. So I guess really the short answer is, again,

1555
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 13: the bye wee comes at a good time. You know,

1556
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 13: we're we're i'll say optimistic that you know it'll resolve

1557
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 13: and you'll be we'll be moving forward.

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: Check that on Jonathan Taylor to Vail Wilding.

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 13: Uh, you know, because of the let me get this right,

1560
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 13: because of the tampering rules, I know, I can't you know,

1561
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 13: touch on specific players. You guys have heard me say before,

1562
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 13: we're always active seekers, participants in the trade market. But

1563
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 13: I would say we're we're we're pleased with the we're

1564
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 13: pleased with the running back room.

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 19: About protection obviously in your opening statement, but just how

1566
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 19: do you feel about the tackles in the offensive line

1567
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 19: and obviously losing Jack and how that impacted things?

1568
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I think that, you know, just overall

1569
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 13: the the offense has been has been a bit up

1570
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,959
Speaker 13: and down. I think, you know, when you think about protection,

1571
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 13: it's not just the offensive line, it's really everybody. It's

1572
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 13: it's it's the quarterbacks, you know, depth, it's the role combination,

1573
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 13: it's the backs, it's the tight ends, you know, and

1574
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 13: that's something that that among you know, several other things,

1575
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 13: things that we haven't been as as been as consistent with.

1576
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 20: So I'm a little often that the game plant change

1577
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 20: when you put the kid in the foot quarterback compared

1578
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 20: to the first with a tense scripted plays or whatever

1579
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 20: that they would.

1580
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, honestly, Terry, that's probably a better question

1581
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 13: for for Kevin and and the short at least in

1582
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 13: terms of the specifics.

1583
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the short answer is you know it's not

1584
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: it won't.

1585
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 13: It's not the same thing as if you know you

1586
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 13: have your your veteran quarterback in there, as as if

1587
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 13: you would have your door in there. Maybe the degree

1588
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 13: of change, you know, is different, just based on you know,

1589
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 13: when we declared to Shaun out. But I think the

1590
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 13: idea that there were, you know, with no adult adjustments,

1591
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 13: I think that's that's an unfair comment.

1592
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 20: I think I think through seven straight passes or something

1593
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 20: after that, it was like, I don't know, I'm watching

1594
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 20: that just as a lane and going, you know, you're

1595
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 20: not helping the kit here.

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'd say this kind of maybe going back to

1598
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 13: I forget to ask the question early. Look, or I

1599
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 13: actually think it was Darryl. When you lose twenty eight

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01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 13: three and don't play well on offense, there's there's a

1601
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 13: lot with the benefit of hindsight that you know, we

1602
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 13: would have done differently.

1603
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: Watson, he didn't throw all week, so why did they

1604
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: come out and throw it. I'm sorry, he didn't throw

1605
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 3: all week and the game plan was pass orient for

1606
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 3: the working quarterback. So or it's the disconnect there.

1607
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 7: I mean, if if you're a number one quarterback didn't

1608
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 7: throw all week. Why wasn't there a conservative effort to

1609
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 7: run them?

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 13: I think probably part of it, Tony is that you know,

1612
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 13: once you're down two scores, like you do have to

1613
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 13: play a little bit more aggressively. But also the other

1614
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 13: thing is like, you know, if you're you're a quarterback,

1615
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 13: you are going to have to have to pass the ball.

1616
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 13: And that doesn't mean that the balance may not change.

1617
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 13: But again, I'll touch base on what I said earlier.

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01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 13: You know, we didn't play well on that side of

1619
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 13: the ball. There there are things that you know we

1620
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 13: we would have done differently with the benefit of high sight.

1621
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 13: But you look at everything.

1622
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 10: When you have a loss like that, do you feel like,

1623
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 10: do you feel like you guys will be able to

1624
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 10: get a bunch more out of Elijah More going forward?

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01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 22: And maybe, uh, you know, will you continue to try

1626
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 22: to run him or would you be better served the

1627
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 22: short passing game? How do you see the whole Elijah

1628
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 22: More pitching.

1629
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, Elijah, we view him as one of the better

1630
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 13: playmakers on the roster. I know that, you know, we're

1631
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 13: excited to get the get him the ball in a

1632
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 13: variety of ways. I do think that there's an element

1633
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 13: where whenever you get a you know, new skill player

1634
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 13: in a new offense. You know, sometimes, like you you

1635
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 13: don't want to, like you don't want to necessarily discourage

1636
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 13: it some of the you know, some of the tinkering,

1637
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 13: and you know, sometimes the results will be good. Sometimes

1638
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 13: the results won't be as good, And the biggest thing

1639
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 13: is adjusting and ultimately allowing those allowing your playmakers to

1640
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 13: kind of find their niche within the offense. You know, again,

1641
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 13: we're we're four games into this thing. You know, we

1642
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 13: do want to get them the ball, but I think

1643
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 13: that'll evolve and grow as we come.

1644
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 22: Good about your receiving quarter the way that it stands

1645
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 22: right now, or is this one of those areas where

1646
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 22: you might have to kind of look.

1647
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 20: Around a little bit.

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 4: Now we feel good about our we feel good about

1649
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: our pass catchers.

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Speaker 6: After this quick time out, you'll hear from Brown's defensive

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Speaker 6: week edition of the program. Right now, time to hear

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 6: from our defensive captain, Anthony Walker Junior. He addressed the

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01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 6: media earlier this week giving his own little state of

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 6: the team address through four games and his bye week

1669
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 6: plans and what is to come in the rest of

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 8: Have a listen.

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Speaker 2: When you look at how you.

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 17: Guys played defensively yesterday, what stood out as you know,

1674
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 17: things that you want to take from the game, but

1675
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 17: also especially in that second quarter, what are areas you

1676
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:28,879
Speaker 17: want you guys.

1677
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 8: Want to improve on.

1678
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 15: Yeah, wasn't good enough. Obviously we didn't play winning football defensively.

1679
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 15: You know, I think you know you're getting a game

1680
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 15: like that. You know you start off well and then

1681
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 15: you kind of get a couple of lapses and that's

1682
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 15: what happens. And you played just a good football team

1683
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 15: in NFL. They have playmakers as well. So we had

1684
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 15: a couple drives where you know, we had a couple

1685
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 15: of lapses and we allowed one play to become two

1686
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 15: plays and three plays and then they're in the red

1687
01:14:55,320 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 15: zone and we put ourselves at a disadvantage. So, like

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01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 15: I said, we there were some positive things obviously that

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 15: we can learn that we can take into the next game.

1690
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 15: But obviously a lot of stuff for us to learn

1691
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 15: from and get better from. It will be better for

1692
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 15: that for this game, you know, this game really as

1693
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 15: we're watching the tape where like, you know, we'll be

1694
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 15: better from this because we saw things that you know,

1695
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 15: we needed to see and the kind.

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01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 17: Of fun up on that of Like, obviously it is

1697
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 17: just one game, but do you do you guys still

1698
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 17: feel as a defense like really sound and like that

1699
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 17: you guys can continue on the dominance that you guys

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 17: had I guess before yesterday, Yeah, no doubt.

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01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 12: I don't think there's no flinch in our room, no

1702
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 12: panic in our room.

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 15: You know, obviously guys want to win, you know, and

1704
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 15: that's the that's the hunger, that's the mindset of our

1705
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 15: team as always, and it sucks when it doesn't happen.

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 12: You know.

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01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 15: So you know, it's funny, like you know, you can

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01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 15: look at this and you know we could be like

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 15: you know, we played you know, three games that we

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01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 15: played really solid defense and we didn't do one or

1711
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 15: whatever you want to look at it. But at the

1712
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 15: end of the day, we're two and two football team

1713
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 15: and it's unacceptable. You know, we we we hold ourselves

1714
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 15: to a higher standard. We're we're an average football team

1715
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 15: right now, that's what the record says, and we want

1716
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 15: to be an above average to the league team. And uh,

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01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 15: you know, we got a long way to go, obviously

1718
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 15: a long season, but you know, we need to take

1719
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 15: steps in the right direction.

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Speaker 14: Hey, Anthony, I think you touched on this after the game,

1721
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 14: but was there any joeled or confusion when you guys

1722
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 14: found out yesterday morning that Deshaun wasn't gonna be able

1723
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 14: to play?

1724
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: No, no, not at all.

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01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 15: Obviously, you know, you always want to go out there

1726
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 15: full strength with you know, franchise quarterback. You know, obviously

1727
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 15: we found out that he wasn't playing, but that doesn't

1728
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 15: change us. Defensively, obviously, we got to go out and

1729
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 15: play our game. And you know we didn't do that

1730
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 15: no matter who was that quarterback yesterday. So you know,

1731
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 15: obviously we learned from it. Obviously we we understand that

1732
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 15: injuries happened. You know, nobody's going to feel sorry for

1733
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 15: us as a team and that the Ravens didn't. You know,

1734
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 15: so we got to be ready to go, and no

1735
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 15: matter who's that quarterback, you know, defensively, we got to

1736
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 15: do our job.

1737
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 14: And Jim Schwartz last week's said, sometimes success it's harder

1738
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 14: to handle and failure with the great start, did you

1739
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 14: guys got out to Do you think that at any

1740
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 14: part in a little bit of a you know, letdown yesterday, No.

1741
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 12: Not at all.

1742
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 15: I think every game is a game within itself. You know,

1743
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 15: obviously you want to be perfect, you want to you know,

1744
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 15: shut teams out and all that stuff. But again, like

1745
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 15: I said, you play against it, and you play in

1746
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 15: the NFL long enough, it'll humble you really fast. So

1747
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 15: it's never you're never going to say, you know, we

1748
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 15: played two or three games and you know we played

1749
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 15: great defense and all that the game finds a way

1750
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 15: to humble you every single day, every single opportunity. So

1751
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 15: obviously we just got to learn from it. We got

1752
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 15: to be better from it. I think, you know, it's

1753
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 15: an early buy, but I think it comes at the

1754
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 15: right time, you know. I think it comes at a

1755
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 15: time where we really needed to just reset, refocus, and

1756
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 15: go on a long run and understand that, you know,

1757
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 15: the NFL man, Like we talked about me and Rodney

1758
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 15: McLeod just saying that, like it's a NFL is a

1759
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 15: humbling game, you know, and we needed to be humbled,

1760
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 15: you know. So we'll learn from it, will be better

1761
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 15: from it, and this game will be a stepping stone

1762
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 15: into why we you know, reached to the point that

1763
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 15: we want to reach at the end of the season.

1764
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 19: Hey, walk anyway, asked you a little bit about this yesterday.

1765
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 19: But going into the buy, you know, after a loss,

1766
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 19: I mean the last two years this team has gone

1767
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 19: into the off week after a loss, after a win,

1768
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,480
Speaker 19: like what's most important in terms of that, like regrouping

1769
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 19: but still taking some time to get away, but still

1770
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 19: staying focused all that stuff.

1771
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, like I said, balance of reset, refocus, refresh, you know,

1772
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 15: obviously you would rather be going into the Bible with

1773
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 15: a win.

1774
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 12: Obviously, we can't you know, sit here and you know

1775
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 12: change that outcome.

1776
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 3: It is what it is now.

1777
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 12: Like I said, we just have to.

1778
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 15: Focus on getting reset, refreshed, refocused as a team and

1779
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 15: then come back and be ready to go. I think

1780
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 15: it helps that we play against a really good football

1781
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 15: team when we get back, and we all know that,

1782
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 15: and everybody's looking forward to that matchup. So you know,

1783
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 15: this is another opportunity for us that guys just have

1784
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 15: to wait two weeks instead of one week.

1785
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 19: So and Miles talked like a little bit about this yesterday,

1786
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 19: but he was like super confident. It seemed like that

1787
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 19: guys wouldn't hold on to this loss longer than they

1788
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 19: needed to and kind of be flushed after film today.

1789
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 19: Even how do you feel about that?

1790
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 12: Do you agree, Miles is a little different? Obviously? No,

1791
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 12: Obviously you know you want to flush it.

1792
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 15: You know, wins, losses, ties, you want to whatever, you

1793
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 15: want to flush it and move on to the next

1794
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 15: You know, this is a bye and you don't play

1795
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 15: another game, you know, till next week. So I gave

1796
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 15: myself a forty eight hour rule instead of a twenty

1797
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 15: four hour rule. So it's still on my mind right now.

1798
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 15: I you know, Miles probably kicking me in the head

1799
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 15: right now telling me to get over it. But I

1800
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 15: got you know, I still got a couple more hours

1801
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 15: to just sit on this one and watch some more

1802
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 15: film and you know, correct some mistakes and all that stuff.

1803
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 15: But yeah, you want to flush it, and we need

1804
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 15: to be long past this by the time we get back.

1805
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 22: So yeah, Anthony, just walking wondering if it was a

1806
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 22: little disconcerted to watch Miles kind of leave the stadium

1807
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 22: in the walk booth the way that he did, and

1808
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 22: you know, maybe even just a little rattling to see

1809
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 22: him have to hobble off the field like that.

1810
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 12: I'm not worried about Miles Garret ever, so you guys

1811
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 12: can worry for us.

1812
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 15: But I told him he needs to take that boot

1813
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 15: off right now, because it's like he's just doing it

1814
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 15: for show at this point. But he'll be fine, man,

1815
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 15: I know he'll be fine. He's a warrior, he's a battler.

1816
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 15: He's going to be ready to go. He's gonna do

1817
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 15: everything and to be ready to go that next game

1818
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 15: we that we have. So I'm not worried about that

1819
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 15: at all.

1820
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 5: Hey walk Obviously being a veteran and a leader of

1821
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 5: this team, it could be tough coming, you know, go

1822
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 5: having to go into a buy after, you know, having

1823
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 5: suffered a tough loss. How do you stay patient to

1824
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: know you guys, your guys' time is going to come,

1825
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 5: you know, knowing that you can't just get right back

1826
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 5: out there next Sunday and kind of eventually loss.

1827
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 15: Well, one thing about it, by it gives you a

1828
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 15: chance to, like I said, just retool, refocus. You know,

1829
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 15: you know the NFL is long man training camp. Uh,

1830
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 15: you know, off season all that stuff is just long.

1831
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 15: So anytime you have this little mental reset that you

1832
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 15: can have, you want to use that. You know, obviously

1833
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 15: it sucks going into a bye after the loss always sucks.

1834
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 15: It's never you can be ten and one. You you

1835
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 15: lose that one, and you got a sick taste in

1836
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 15: your mouth, you know after losing that one going into

1837
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 15: a by. So you know, for us, like I said,

1838
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 15: we can use this as a stepping stone, which I'm

1839
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 15: sure we will as a team. We will use this

1840
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 15: as a stepping stone. That game this bye week probably

1841
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 15: perfect timing, and then the week after. You know, it's

1842
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 15: crazy how the NFL schedule works that Atlanta just like that,

1843
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 15: where we have a chance to defend our home turf

1844
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 15: against a great NFC team, you know, a team that

1845
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 15: consistently has been you know, playing for uh NFC title

1846
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 15: or Super Bowl title the last few years. A great

1847
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 15: challenge for us. And I think you know, the guys

1848
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 15: are excited about that. So that's gonna you know, that

1849
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 15: is going to make the buye we go a little

1850
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 15: bit more. You know, we're still guys are going to

1851
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 15: be hungry.

1852
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: It's time for please please thanks.

1853
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 14: Hey, when you're talking about the buy coming at a

1854
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 14: great time, is that as part of that? Because it

1855
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 14: feels like so much has happened through these four weeks,

1856
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 14: whether it's losing Nick and kind of the up and

1857
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 14: down nature of you know, win one, lose one.

1858
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the NFL. You never can predict it.

1859
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 10: You know.

1860
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 15: They can talk about the script and all that's that's

1861
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 15: as they want to. But you know the emotions of

1862
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 15: being a being in the NFL, of playing football, you know,

1863
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 15: the way injuries happen, all that stuff. It's an emotional battle,

1864
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 15: you know, and any like I said, anytime you're able

1865
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 15: to kind of just get that reset. It does wonders

1866
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 15: for your team. So again, we just happen to have ours,

1867
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 15: you know. I feel like at the right time, I'm

1868
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 15: a little selfish at this point. Obviously coming back from injury,

1869
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 15: playing four games in a row, obviously you know, body sore,

1870
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 15: all that stuff. I having not played, you know, since

1871
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,799
Speaker 15: last September. So for me, I feel like it's perfect

1872
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 15: timing as well. But like I just said, for our team,

1873
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 15: just to kind of reset, refocus, I think it'll.

1874
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: Be hue for us.

1875
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 22: So Anthony, uh, Kevin Strafanski had pretty high praise today

1876
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 22: for David Nijoku coming in there and and gutting it

1877
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 22: out after what he went through on Friday night. Uh,

1878
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 22: seeing him the way that you, I know saw him

1879
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 22: yesterday and seeing him do what he did on the field.

1880
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 22: What are your thoughts on on what David did yesterday.

1881
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's a tough character, man, I told him first

1882
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 15: of all, he's a character for I don't know what

1883
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 15: he tried to.

1884
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 12: Do at home obviously wasn't done the right way.

1885
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 15: Oh, but man, just the will to get out there

1886
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:34,919
Speaker 15: on the field and go to war with your teammates.

1887
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 15: I thought that was that was awesome, you know, seeing

1888
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 15: him and seeing how he responded. I can tell you now,

1889
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 15: I don't think. I don't think I'm playing that game,

1890
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 15: you know, just you know, with the way I mean everything,

1891
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 15: I mean you I don't know if you guys have

1892
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 15: seen him, but it was a lot.

1893
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 12: And yeah, he's tough man. He's a He's a tough guy.

1894
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 15: That's I mean, that has always been his persona since

1895
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 15: I've known him, you know, throughout college and being in

1896
01:23:59,000 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 15: the NFL.

1897
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 12: He's a tough guy. And you know, I wasn't surprised,

1898
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 12: but you know, obviously you never Yeah, he's tough.

1899
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 17: You touched on it a little bit. But also Greg

1900
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 17: Newson last night was talking about how they're like the

1901
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 17: little things on the defensive end was what was missing.

1902
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 17: So I guess what are those little things that you

1903
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 17: guys have to now I guess kind of focus on

1904
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 17: for week six.

1905
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, we can't give you all our secrets, but I

1906
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 15: think just the fundamentals, you know, tackling, covering, you know, communication,

1907
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 15: all that stuff. I think you know, you never as

1908
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 15: long as you're playing the NFL, you'll never have the

1909
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 15: game downpack all the way, you know, And I think

1910
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 15: we as a team, we know that as a defense,

1911
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 15: we know that we got to be better at everything,

1912
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 15: a little details, the everyday process of getting ready for

1913
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 15: a game, all that stuff. It just has to be better.

1914
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 15: We understand that. And then I don't want that to

1915
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 15: be like, oh, like I'm blowing out of proportion that

1916
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 15: you know, they didn't do the little things or they

1917
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 15: had communication breaking. Now it wasn't that, but you know,

1918
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 15: after a loss, everything is heightened. You know, That's just

1919
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 15: what it is.

1920
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 12: That's the nature of the business that we live in now.

1921
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 15: If we had one yesterday and had twenty mental eras

1922
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 15: you know, it would be downplayed. But at the end

1923
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 15: of the day, we want to be a championship defense.

1924
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 15: No matter whether we win or lose. We need to

1925
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 15: learn from it. We need to be better from it

1926
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 15: and not make the same mistakes twice. And I think

1927
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 15: that's you know, kind of what we're what Greg was

1928
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 15: talking about, not really the fact that you know, we

1929
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 15: did little things wrong the whole time, but to be

1930
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 15: any league defense, you gotta do the little things right

1931
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 15: every time. And that's you know, just how we how

1932
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 15: we see it and how we wanted to be done.

1933
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,439
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Speaker 6: Join Ken Carman and Geron Sherry Tonight from seven to eight.

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Speaker 6: It is the Browns Preview Show all along the University

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Speaker 6: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Defensive tackle Maurice Hurst, who

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Speaker 6: had a big fumble recovery and Sunday's game, joins the

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Speaker 6: and look ahead to the final thirteen games of the season.

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Speaker 6: It's a bye week. It's the earliest bye week that

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Speaker 6: I can remember this football team having. Going to be

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Speaker 6: a long second half of the season. Patience people, Patience

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Speaker 6: Browns Nation. We're just four games in, We're two and two.

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Speaker 6: Let's see how it all plays out. A lot of

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Speaker 6: football left to be played, for sure. We hope you

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Speaker 6: enjoyed this first Friday edition special edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 6: You heard earlier on the show The Dog's Only Podcast,

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Speaker 6: Joel Botonio and Wyatt Teller four other episodes of The

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Speaker 6: Nathan are back tomorrow. We had to step away today.

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Speaker 6: We'll kind of explain what we were doing. That'll come

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Speaker 6: Thursday before we have another best of on Friday. Lit'll

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Speaker 6: weekend that we will have free till hopefully February. We'll

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Speaker 6: see how that goes. The guys are back on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: The mail bag, fantasy advice, the scores. You'll hear from

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Speaker 6: a few players and a few coaches, as well as

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Speaker 6: we get you set for the second half of the season.

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