1 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Welcome into a very special edition of fish Bites. Of course, 2 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: my name is Danny Martinez. Now the reason that it's 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a special edition is because Glenn Geffner, your radio voice 4 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: of the Marlins, is going to be joining me today. Glenn, 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: number one, is fantastic at what he does. If you 6 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: ever listen to the Marlins radio broadcast, I don't have 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: to tell you this, you already know this. Number two. 8 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: He is someone that I have been following since his 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: time back in the early two thousand with the Red Sox. 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: So I have a big, you know, goofy and dorky 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: smile on my face knowing that I'm gonna be able 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: to chat some baseball with Glenn. We're gonna talk a 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: little bit about his upbringing. He's a Miami native. We're 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna talk about his career being with the Marlins, and 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: then we're going to transition and talk a little Marlins baseball, 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: what he likes about the current plan, what he is 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: seeing in the future, what the vibe he gets from 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: the players, and whether you know they're buying into what's 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: being built here. Glenn also decided to send a thread 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter this last week and as soon as I 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: saw it. I loved it because I knew that there 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: was going to be a lot of feedback brought with 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: that tweet. To my surprise, it was incredibly positive. Ninety 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: six percent plus. I would say we're positive towards the feedback, 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: with some disagreeing with what he said. Now, what he 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: said was basically laying out the reasons that he believes 27 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: in this organization moving forward, why he believes that the 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: South Florida area should start coming to games more often, 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: supporting the organization, supporting the players, and starting to see 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: with their own eyes the improvements at the stadium, starting 31 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: to see with their own eyes the improvement to the 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: overall organizational talent even at the big league level, starting 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: to see the young pieces, and what is only year 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: two of a rebuild, but getting in early while this 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: plan is coming into place. I love that Gunn sent 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: that out, and I just again, I'm so honored that 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: he decided to join us today. So before and without 38 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: me babbling on anymore, let's go ahead and get right 39 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: into it. Joining us now is a Miami native, someone 40 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: who you will undoubtedly recognize as soon as they speak, 41 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: one of the radio voices of your Miami Marlins and 42 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: honestly someone that I've been following since his days with 43 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: the Red Sox back in the early two thousands. So 44 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I hope you forgive me if I'm a little starstruck 45 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and introducing Lenn Geffner. Glenn, thank you for coming on. 46 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Danny, happy to do it. It's great to talk with you. 47 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know, I joked right before we started recording 48 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: that I have a big smile on my face. It's 49 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: still there. So if you can envision me with my 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: microphone and my big smile, that's exactly what's happening. 51 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, see if you're still smiling in a few minutes. Well, 52 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: once you get into this here. 53 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that I'm going to still be 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: spot I have a feeling I'd actually like to start 55 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: off with speaking about you. Really. By now, most Marlin 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: fans know exactly who you are and how great you 57 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: are at what you do, but I'm guessing there are 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: some that may not know about your time prior to 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: coming to Miami, So I'd like to give you that 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: time talk a little bit about yourself, you know, what's 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: important to you and your career before coming back home. 62 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: Per se. Yeah, Well, as you point out. I did 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: come back home when I came to the Marlins in 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. I grew up down here in 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: South Day and went to high school at Palmeto, then 66 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: left to go to college in nineteen eighty six. When 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: I grew up down here with you that Major League baseball. 68 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: We had spring training baseball, the Oiels at Miami Stadium, 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Theanys up in Fort Lauderdale, and we had University of 70 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: Miami baseball, and I practically lived out at Mark LT. 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Went to as many games games every year as I could, 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: and went to baseball camp there, Ron Fraser's camp for 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: years and years, and wound up actually coaching at Ron 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Fraser's camp when I was in high school. I did 75 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: some internships at the Miami Herald on my way through 76 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: high school. In college and I went I went away 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: to Northwestern. I thought I was probably pretty much done 78 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: with Florida. Spent four great years in Evanston, and then 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: began my career in baseball working in Triple A with 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: the Rochester Red Wings, who at that time with the 81 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: Baltimore Oriol's Triple A affiliate. Started out as an unpaid intern, 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: making mascot appearances at twenty five dollars a pop to 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: help pay my rent. I got on the air. Eventually 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: I was doing all the team's public relations work. Became 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: a fill in broadcaster, the number two broadcaster than the 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: lead broadcaster. I had started radio at Northwestern for four 87 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: years broadcast Northwestern football, basketball, and baseball, did talk shows, 88 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: things like that, and that's really when my love for 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: broadcasting began. And had the chance to do a full 90 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: time in Triple A and then wound up going to 91 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: the big leagues, first with the San Diego Padres for 92 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 2: six seasons. I had the chance to work with Bruce 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Bouchie and Tony Gwynn and Trevor Hoffman and Ricky Henderson 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 2: as the people like that in those years. Then onto 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: the Red Sox, where I spent five years, and I 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: always say I was there for the absolute best five years, 97 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: imaginable because my first added miserably in two thousand and three. 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: That was my indoctrination to what being a Red Sox 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: is all about. Losing Game seven of the Alcs to 100 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the Yankees on Aaron Booneholm run on Tim Wakefield next 101 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: your innings. Then two thousand and four, it can't get 102 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: better than what the Red Sox did no before coming 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: back from three to zero down in the Alcs to 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: beat the Yankees to win the Pennant, and then sweeping 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: the Cardinals for the first World Series, winning eighty six years. 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: And I was there through two thousand and seven, when 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: they won their second World Series. At least in most 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: of our lifetimes. They won one more since. But at 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: the end of that two thousand and seven season, I 110 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: had the chance to come back home, and a lot 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: of people wondered, why the heck would you leave the 112 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: Red Sox just won a second World Series, But this 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: is home for me, and you know, I followed this 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: franchise closely from day one and nineteen ninety three. I 115 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: literally remember sitting in the back conference room in our 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: office the old Ballpark in Rochester, New York, watching Charlie 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: Huff throw the first pitch of the first game back 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three. And I remember where I was 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: watching the nineteen ninety seven World Series Game seven, at 120 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: a close friend of our family's house in San Diego 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: at that point. And so when I had the chance 122 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: to come back home, it was an opportunity I just 123 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: couldn't pass up. At that point in my life, especially 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: with a wife at that point, a couple of kids. 125 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: We've had a third since, but it just seemed like 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: a great place to raise our family and to be home, 127 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: and really, more than anything, to want to be here 128 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: at a point where I really thought the Marlins could 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: kind of take that next step and establish themselves as 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: a team that perennial league could be competitive. There was 131 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: a lot of hope for a new ballpark at that point. 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't that long before we learned that the ballpark 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: we get built. So for a lot of reasons, it 134 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: was just a great opportunity to come home, continue to 135 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: do what I love in an area where I knew 136 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: it'll be a great opportunity to raise my family. 137 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Before we get to the fish, actually, I 138 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: have to ask you this now, because the Red Sox 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: aren't known for treating their employees really well. Did were 140 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: you able to get a championship ring? 141 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: I've got two of them, Yeah, I have had two 142 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: thousand and four in two thousand and seven, for sure. 143 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. That's beautiful, all right. 144 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: So you don't wear them, don't really wear them, you know. 145 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: When I was in Boston, i'd wear them with the 146 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: four to one for special occasions open today and the 147 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: bank whets and things like that. I actually received the 148 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: seven ring after i'd moved down here in two thousand 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: and eight, and so I don't really wear them, and 150 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: I'll take good appearances sometimes when I know stud young 151 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: students might get excited seeing something like that. But it's funny, 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: it's so long ago now, as big a deal as 153 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: two thousand and four was. When I goes speak at 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: a school now, a lot of the times, you know, 155 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: kids weren't even born in two thousand and four, and 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: they have no idea about the curse of the dam 157 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: being on what some of that stuff meant. 158 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: It's funny, Yeah, that's what you're there for. Then you 159 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: get to educate them. 160 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: We try, we try. 161 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, you come back home in two thousand 162 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: and eight, right, I think it's fair to say that 163 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: since then, yeah, you've seen a lot. You've seen a 164 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: lot of changes. There's been some ups, there's been some 165 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: very low lows. I'm not necessarily one to dive too 166 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: much into the past or previous regimes or previous mistakes 167 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: or what hasn't worked, So instead I'll ask you this 168 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: as we look at the current status of the organization, 169 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: right from this draft to the vastly improved pharm system, 170 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: the fans centered initiatives, even the big league club. What 171 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: most excites you about the direction of the Marlins moving forward? 172 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: I think what excites me is they have a plan 173 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: and they will absolutely not bunch from the execution of 174 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: that plan. They know exactly where they want to get 175 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: and how they want to get there, and there won't 176 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: be any getting sidetracked along the way. There were times 177 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: in the past where it seemed like this franchise has 178 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: had in the right direction, but then all of a sudden, 179 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: you bring in the wrong free agent for the wrong reason, 180 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: or you make the wrong trade for the wrong reason, 181 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: and things just don't work out. These guys are committed 182 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: one million percent to executing their plan, and they laid 183 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: it out on day one, you know. I know, they 184 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: said there were hard decisions to be made, and people 185 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: now know what that means, and people didn't like a 186 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: lot of that stuff. But they've done everything they've done 187 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: with the purpose, and they continue to just be very 188 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: patient and let it all play out. You know, And 189 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: even obviously I've got a lot of attention in recent 190 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: days for some of my tweets and talking about people 191 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: coming out supporting the team. Even in that regard, you know, 192 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: they're very patient. They understand it's going to take some 193 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: time for fans to really see it all coming together 194 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: on the field. It's going to take some time for 195 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: it all to come together and be able to sustain 196 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: what they want to do here. But that's what excites me. 197 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: They really do have a plan. And you look around 198 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: baseball and you look at other teams as examples of 199 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: franchises that have gone through similar periods. But just look 200 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: at the standings when you wake up today. Four of 201 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: the six teams that are in first place in their 202 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: division right now. For the six, all but the Yankees, 203 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, who have all the money in the world, 204 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Four of the six have gone through similar programs, losing 205 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: ninety plus games, one hundred plus games not that long ago, 206 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: and getting things turned around dramatically. Atlanta, the Cubs, the Twins, 207 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: the Astros, even he had an Houston team that lost 208 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: one hundred plus games three years in a row, lost 209 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven games one year, and then a 210 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: few years laters winning the World Series everybody knows what 211 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: the Cubs have been through the games, went from three 212 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: straight ninety loss seasons to winning the division last year 213 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: and looking really good again this year. So it doesn't 214 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: mean that everybody who tries this is going to be 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: successful because you got big money teams, you got other 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: teams kind of doing the same sort of thing. You 217 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: don't have great and vacue. But they have a plan, 218 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: and to me, this really is the one and only 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: chance for this franchise on and off the field. I 220 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: think doing everything the right way. They've immersed themselves in 221 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: the community with the ballpark enhancements, to produced ticket prices, 222 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: with these concessions prices, They're reaching out to people. And 223 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: the whole point of my series of tweets Sunday night was, 224 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: you know what, it's times people kind of extend that 225 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: hand back a little bit and rather than be so 226 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: bogged down what's happened over the last twenty five years 227 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: with this franchise, it's time at some point to say, 228 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: you know what, maybe these people deserve to benefit of 229 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: the doubt. Let's not convict them of a crime before 230 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: they've committed a crime. Let's give these guys a chance 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: to do their thing. They're doing what they've told us 232 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 2: they were going to do, and now we're beginning to 233 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: see the fruits. And we're only in the second or 234 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: third inning of this. Then we've got a long way 235 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: to go, and there'll probably be more losses than wins 236 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: in the short term, for sure. But these guys have 237 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: a plan and they're carrying it out every single day. 238 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: You see it in the trade, you see it in 239 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: the way they handle the draft, you see it in 240 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: the way they've handled players at the minor league level. 241 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Who gets promoted, who doesn't get promoted, who they stick 242 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: with in the big leagues, but they don't stick with 243 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: in the big leagues. Every move they make is made 244 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: with the purpose, and they're not going to be the 245 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: Intoe plan. 246 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent with you, you know, and for 247 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: anyone that's listened to this podcast of the last few months, 248 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: you really, Glenn just said a bunch of the things 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: that I've been trying to say. And that's why when 250 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: you first sent out that thread of tweets, I was 251 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: one of the first ones to quote you, and I 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: said that this is exactly what we've been echoing, and 253 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: that it was a beautiful thing for you to come 254 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: out and say that, because what I see is again 255 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: correct the plan, right, there is finally a plan here, 256 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: and it seems like they're executing it very well. You said, 257 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: we're in the second inning of this thing, and even 258 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: while being in the second inning, look at the pitching 259 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: staff and then not even the major league pitching staff, 260 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: look also to the minor league pitching staff and what 261 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: they've built. Yeah, I've also seen an ownership group that 262 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: is responsive. I was at that town hall that Derek 263 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Jeter had the first year that he was here, and 264 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: it seems, you know, there was a lot of ridiculous 265 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: things that were said. They're not from him, but from 266 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: fans some things that were a little bit more understandable. 267 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: The two things that I spoke about was are we 268 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: going to go into the international market, and how we're 269 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: going to be responsive with what you know, the colors, 270 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: are changes in the stadium, things that might help the 271 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: fan experience. And a year and a half into this, 272 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: those are both things that have occurred. Right. They are 273 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: heavy in the international market, and they're heavy into the 274 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: d MEL campaign and the colors and the stadium upgrades. 275 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: It's beautiful to see that change and then be responsive. 276 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Something that's always interesting to me is if you got 277 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: into Miami, individuals will say, well, this is a winner's market, right, 278 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: The Heat have to win, the Dolphins have to win, 279 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: the Canes have to win. Do you buy into the 280 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: theory that once the Marlins are really a stable, competitive winner, 281 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the city of Miami will come back? 282 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: You know what. I want to buy into that theory, Danny. 283 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: But I gotta be honest with you. I don't know 284 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: the answer to that question because you've never seen that happen, 285 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: So we don't have anything to really intelligently base that answer. 286 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: And I hope that's the case, but what we just 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: don't know. It's a great ballpark. Obviously, we hear complaints 288 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: who live in pob Beach County and want to drive 289 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: that far south. People in Broward say it takes too long. 290 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: I make the drive and brow every day. Granted it's 291 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: my job and I get paid to do it. But 292 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: I make that drive literally every single day, and somehow 293 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: I go on. As I've said to a few people 294 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: on social media in recent days, you know, we all 295 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: have things that we enjoy doing, and we drive an 296 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: hour or ninety minutes, or hevn't forbid two hours a 297 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: couple of times a year to go to an amusement park, 298 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: or to go to a restaurant that we love, or 299 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: to go to a theater that we enjoy, or something 300 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: like that. So I hope that at some point people 301 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: buy in, you know, I think it's it's up to fans, 302 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: it's up to the media to maybe do what you've 303 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: done and take a more honest look at what's truly 304 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: going on here, rather than constantly falling back on the old, 305 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: tired cliches. It's so easy to talk about what happened 306 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven and ninety eight and two thousand 307 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: and three or what you know, have three owners you 308 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: go or two owners ago or whatever. But at some 309 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: point you've got to move on a different People even't 310 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: commit these crimes. It's so thank You also have to 311 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: be honest, and this is part of my frustration. You know, 312 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: there were people who were so upset they traded Miguel Cabrera. 313 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: They didn't come back to watching Miguel Cabrera play when 314 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: Niggy was here. There. People have serdered all the recent trades, 315 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: but all those players who were dealt the way, played 316 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: in front of the lowest attendant in baseball year after 317 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: year after year, and also never even finished at five hundred. 318 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: And there's no doubt there was great talent traded away. 319 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: But all the people who say I don't come to 320 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: games because they traded all these players didn't come when 321 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: these players were here. All these people who say, well, 322 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: I'd come to games if they would lock up their 323 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: young Cork talent didn't come when Stanton got the biggest 324 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,479 Speaker 2: contract in sports history, didn't come when Yelich got his extension. 325 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: You know, didn't come. Really, they've made all the free 326 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: agency in twenty twelve. Even they opened the ball pup, 327 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: there was that little initial bump only because of the 328 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: new ballpark. That faded in a hurry. So you know, 329 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: at some point, look, if you don't love the Marlins, 330 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: if you don't love baseball, that's fine, but that's not you. 331 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: That's not Wayne Heiding's fault, that's not Jeffrey Lori's. It's 332 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: not the fault of being in a football stadium where 333 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: it's too hot and rainy. Because now you've got a 334 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: ballpark with the roof. You know, at some point, stop 335 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: pointing fingers everywhere else and just say, you know what, 336 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: it's just not my thing. I'd either go to a 337 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: football game or a basketball game. That's cool. I'm good 338 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: with that. But at some point people who really step 339 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 2: back and take a look what's going on here, I 340 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: think and I hope will realize that. You know, they're 341 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: in the foundational stage. They're building something really cool here. 342 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: And in the meantime, you go to the Bullpuck tonight. 343 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: They might win, they might lose, we'll see. But it's 344 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: a great place to watch a game. The food is great. 345 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: You can get a ten dollars ticket, the concessions are 346 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: three dollars and five dollars in many cases. Go I 347 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: have some fun, take a family, go ball game, you know, 348 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: go out to some of the great names in this 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: sport when they come to town, some of the exciting teams 350 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: in the sport. When they come to town. It's not 351 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: some fun. You know, people complain about the drive. No 352 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: one complained about going to the Orange Bowl, although the 353 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Dolphins and Canes. You don't complain about going to the 354 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Triple A to watch the heat. My point all along 355 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: has been I'm not saying everybody's got to buy season tickets, 356 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: but two or three times a year. If enough people 357 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: down here just started going to two or three games 358 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: a year, you create a culture where the Marlins really 359 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: are part of the fabric of this community. When I 360 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: work through San Diego, and I see it in San 361 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Diego every time I go back there. The Padres haven't 362 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: had a lot of success, but the Padres truly are 363 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 2: part of the fabric of San Diego. And whether you're 364 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: a baseball fan or not, you go to through Padres 365 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: games a year because it's something that everybody who lives 366 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: in San Diego does. And the weather's great, and you 367 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: get a micro brew and you have a great time, 368 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: and Padres might win, Patters might lose, but you're San 369 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Diego and you support the hometown team. And believe me, 370 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: they haven't had near to success. The Mads have had 371 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: the two years that the Man's have one to one 372 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: series here, and there are other markets that are like 373 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: that as well. So you hope at some point people 374 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: can just kind of get over the history. I understand 375 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: it's tortured and painful, but say, you know what, We've 376 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: got new people in place here now. They're doing a 377 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: lot of things right it's gonna take some time. We 378 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: all acknowledge that, but you don't want to. Let's check 379 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: out the new ballpark enhances. Let's check out this new team, 380 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: some of these young arms that we're hearing about, you know, 381 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: show some support and have some fun, and hopefully you 382 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: can say you were there in the earliest stages. Hopefully 383 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: think it's really good and over in a few years. 384 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that you didn't come in later on when it 385 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: was the easy thing to do, but that you. 386 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: Saw the bandwagon fans too. But in the vening time, Yeah, 387 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: nice nights of people happen on early. 388 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: And I do think I've always empathized, maybe it's a 389 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: clinical psychology part of me. I've always empathized with the 390 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: person that says, you know, they're the scorn lover, right, 391 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: They're the one that says, well, I've I've been hurt 392 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: before and the first time I got over it, the 393 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: second time I got over it. And they don't seem 394 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: to understand that there's a difference here. And I think 395 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: that's the problem. The problem is that the individual, and 396 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: we're not talking about the individual that isn't like baseball. 397 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about the real person who has actually made 398 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: a decision to turn its back on this organization. Right 399 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: that individual, it seems like they're not even aware of 400 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: the anymore that they have allowed and we won't say names, 401 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: but previous mistakes to then turn their love away from baseball. 402 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: And what I'm starting to see, even in my own family, 403 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: even in my own circle of peers, is those that 404 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: take the first step, right, that first step is the 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: hardest when it comes to this to go to the 406 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: stadium to you know, dive into the farm system. You 407 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: don't even have to really dive into the dive into 408 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: the top five starting staff that the Marlins are currently 409 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: fielding every day, or the core pieces and the Andersons 410 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: and the al Farros, and we'll see what Cooper comes 411 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: to be and Ramirez. If they take that first step 412 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: and they go to this beautiful park, they come back, 413 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, they come back because it's a good experience, 414 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: it's an exciting experience. What do you say to the 415 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: person that still hasn't taken that first step? And you 416 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: gave me a lot of good examples already, But I 417 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: wonder for the fan that's looking from the outside in 418 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: and can tell me, because I've heard it a million times, Danny, 419 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: I understand the farm system, Danny, I understand that they're trying. 420 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Is there something that you see within the organization where 421 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: you just believe it this time? Is the fruits? Is 422 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: it the actions? Is it the words? What is it 423 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: for you where you can really say, listen, this is 424 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the hot ticket in five years, in three years, 425 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: it should be a hot ticket. Now, let's see where 426 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: it goes. 427 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: Well, I've watched it now for about eighteen months or so, 428 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: and I've made this point a couple of times in 429 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: recent days when people have asked me about the threat 430 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: of tweets I sent out and people somebody called me 431 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: a shill on social media. Oh, you're just Derek Jeter's guy, 432 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: trying to kiss up to Derek Jeter. You know, I 433 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: didn't send these tweets out the day that Bruce Sherman 434 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: and Derek Jeter bought the team. I didn't send the 435 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: tweets out at any point in the first season where 436 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: they owned the team, or in the off season leading 437 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: up to this year, in spring training of this year. 438 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: But I really, being around this every single day as 439 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: I have been, as I'm lucky to be, I really 440 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: see a corner being turned. I really see that on 441 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: the field, off the field, in the culture of the organization. 442 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: And that's why I say, you know what, it's time now, 443 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: it's time to sit something. And I didn't know who 444 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: would listen to what the response would be, but I 445 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: just felt like, you know, it's time now. Things are 446 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: starting to change here. I'm sick of the old cliches. 447 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: Let it go. You gotta honestly take a look at 448 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: what's happening here, because you really are seeing it, and 449 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, I hope other people will also, and it 450 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: is a matter of taking that first step. Like you say, 451 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: we might need a segment on the pregames for every 452 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: night Danny with our clinical psychologist to help walk people 453 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: through this helps to sort of recovery or turn whatever 454 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: it is. But you know, it's things are changing. They 455 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: really are. I see it every day. And like I said, 456 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't saying this a year and a half ago 457 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: because I didn't know for sure. But I really believe 458 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: it now, I truly do. I had no reason to 459 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: doubt anybody on day one, but like everybody else, you 460 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: kind of want to sit back and watch and see 461 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: things begin to play out and now you really see 462 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: the difference at the big league level at the minor 463 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: league level in the organization. I talk about the culture change, 464 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: and the culture in the major league club is completely different. 465 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: We've got twenty five guys in there who want to 466 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: be here, who want to play their butts off for 467 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: nine innings every night, as we saw with the rally 468 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: the ninth then and came up short last night against 469 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: the Nationals, as we saw the night before when Niggie 470 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: got thrown out in the eighth innings. He's called out 471 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: on strikes and his feeling was, you know what, this 472 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: umpire is trying to get this game over with because 473 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: he thinks at six to one in the eighth it's over. 474 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't think it's over. I'm fighting till the twenty 475 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: seventh out. 476 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: You love that stuff, and it was the est It 477 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: is the kindest argument I've ever seen from your reading. 478 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I mean, that's meggi Roll. 479 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: We made the comment on the broadcast, you don't normally 480 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: see Miguel Rojas react like that. I don't know that 481 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: we've ever seen Miguel robsas, but but it tells you 482 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: how passionate he is and how strongly he feels about this. 483 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: And so when I'm around these players every day, and 484 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm around these games every single day, I see this 485 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: stuff and you want other people to see it as well. 486 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: But at some point, and again as a clinical psychologist, 487 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: you understand better anybody, at some point people have to 488 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: make the decision. I want to let myself see it. 489 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: And there are many who are beginning to make that decision, 490 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: and there are many who just have refused to. And 491 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: at some point, what can you do? 492 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I'll hit on something that you said 493 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: about the players really quickly. You know, this is a 494 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: fan base who one of their biggest things is always, 495 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: oh well, the players always leave or they get sent out. Right, 496 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to compare this current build that they're 497 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: into the what I would categorize as fire sales rebuilds 498 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: of the previous regimes. We could go and speak at 499 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: nauseum about how Stan had a no trade clause. We 500 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: had no leverage in that one, Yelich, whether we're okay 501 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: with him demanding a trade or not demanded a trade. 502 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: The same with reboots, at least, what the rumors are. 503 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: We could speak about all of that, but then you 504 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: go to FanFest this year and you talk to Amante 505 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Harrison or you know, even on this own podcast. We 506 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: have a sister podcast, Earning Their Stripes, where we bring 507 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: minor league players and we speak to them. If you 508 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: go back and you listen to those episodes, Easton Diaz 509 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: is on fire to get here, but he mentions, Miami, 510 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: it's not just about the big leagues, it's about what 511 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: we're building here. The first time that we had to 512 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: Harrison on he gave us a five minute it sounded 513 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: like a locker room halftime speech, okay, on what we're 514 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: building here, and that was when they were in the 515 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: middle of their ten and thirty one. He said, you know, 516 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: it's tough to look up there right now, but I'm 517 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: telling you we're coming and we're bringing championships to Miami. 518 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: All these players seem to be on fire. And I'm 519 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: not a big quote unquote we're going to change the 520 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: culture kind of guy, even though there is some element 521 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: to that in a clubhouse, but that's kind of what 522 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing here. We're seeing players that want to be here, 523 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: that want to be in Miami, And like you said, 524 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: Mickey Roe is a beautiful example of that, so what 525 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: if we're down six and the ninth in the eighth, 526 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: I want to be able to have every strike a strike, 527 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: every ball the ball because we're going to come back 528 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: and get this is Is that just what you're seeing. 529 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: You're seeing a bit of a culture change as well. 530 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: People not just inside the organization, but the players are 531 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: buying into the plan. 532 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: No question, one thousand percent. You see it in the 533 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: big league clubhouse every day and again I come back 534 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: and way this team has fought and clawed and actually, 535 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: just looking at some numbers this morning going Knight's game, 536 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: this team's played much better in very close games one 537 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: and two one games than it has in blowout type games, 538 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: and they find a way to win when they hang around. 539 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: They like those kinds of games, being in those positions. 540 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: And then you go down to the minor league level 541 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: and you talked about his san Diez Monte Harrison, guys 542 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: like that. I look back at the Captain's camp they've 543 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: held now for the last couple of years, prior to 544 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: spring training, where they bring the top prospects in the 545 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 2: organization in and they teach them about leadership and what 546 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: it means to work in this kind of a culture, 547 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: a winning culture, how you succeed on the field, off 548 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: the field, how you immerse yourself in the community, how 549 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: you're a good citizen away from the ballpark. What it 550 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: means to where this uniform would be a Major leaguer, 551 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: the responsibilities that entails. So I think these young players 552 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: for even get to the big leagues are learning these 553 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: vital lessons so that when they get here, they're going 554 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: to be a step ahead. And yeah, you got some 555 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: better players in this clubhouse this year who have great 556 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: resumes and great pet degrees. Curtis Granderson knows what it takes. 557 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 2: Neil Walker knows what it takes. Mcguel Rojas is a 558 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: really unique guy, you know, as somebody who's had to 559 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: scratch and claw for every bat he's ever gotten in 560 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: the big leagues. And you're so happy to see him 561 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: getting a chance to play every day. And I thought 562 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: it was really touch And here Don Mattingly say, if 563 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: he had to pick one player ups at the month 564 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: to the All Star Game, Mickey would be the guy 565 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: because what he represents, what he means to this team, 566 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: the fact that he's out there every day. It's not 567 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: that he's a spectacular defender who's been swinging the bat 568 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: really well since the middle part of May. But what 569 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: he means to this team and the fire and the 570 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: leadership by example, the vocal leadership that he brings. You know. 571 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: Sergio Romo is another guy like that, veteran bronn in 572 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: this year, who's been part of three World Series championship teams. 573 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: Is on the mound for the final out of the 574 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: World Series. This is a guy who's been on the 575 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: biggest stage. He's seen it all, and they're such great 576 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: role models for the younger players in this clubhouse, you know, 577 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: the young players who are going to join him eventually. 578 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Right now, he's got twenty five players, or got twenty 579 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: five players in the active roster. Five of the twenty 580 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: five has made their major league debuts this year, so 581 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: they're able to glean knowledge and wisdom from some of 582 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: these veteran guys. And I think it's a really nice 583 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: situation to put people in position to have success in 584 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: the long term. It is a cultural change, and that's important, 585 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: and it really starts with don Noddingley and his coaching staff. 586 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: Donnie's been great through this entire process. You know, people 587 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: think of maddingly as a New York Yankee as the 588 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: manager of the Dodgers, big market teams, huge dollar teams. 589 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: But for me watching Donnie during his time here and 590 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: especially over the last two years, he's a perfect manager 591 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: for this group of guys. He loves to teach, he 592 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: loves to impart wisdom, he loves to be a role 593 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: model for these guys. It's been a lot of fun 594 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: to watch him do his thing, and that's been a 595 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: huge part of this whole culture shift as well. 596 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a short list of your most 597 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: memorable calls. I'm sure it's not the first time someone 598 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: has asked you this, and I'm sure it's somewhat like 599 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: choosing between your children, But is there anything that sticks 600 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: out to you a season, a call, a game that 601 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: would make your short list of dearest moments? 602 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: Well, moment, but it's the first moment that comes to 603 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: mind every single time anybody asks this question, or I 604 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: think back on things like this that first came back 605 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: after Rose passed away, and I'll get choked up just 606 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: talking about it right now. That is I'm literally getting 607 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: goosebumps as I think about this night. That's the night 608 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: that nobody who was in that ballpark or was watching 609 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 2: one listening to the radio, probably will ever forget. And that, 610 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: you know. And I broadcast the World Series in Boston 611 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: and was a part of a lot of cool things 612 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: over the years, and three thousand hits and things like that. 613 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: But that's a night that stands above all others that 614 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: I will never forget. And it's a night you wish 615 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: you were never a part of. But that game, just 616 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: for me, crystallizes what baseball means, what sports means, in 617 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: bringing people together a shared bond, in reminding yourself that, 618 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: you know what, these guys in the field, who I 619 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: think are robots, are human beings and they have emotions. 620 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: And to see the Mets respond the way they did 621 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: to the Marlins players that night, to think back, you 622 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: know Deep Gordon hitting that home run to start the game, 623 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: justin Board hitting a triple, the Marlins winning, you know 624 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: a lot of things that happened that night. That is 625 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: the night above all others. And you know, I've been 626 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: in clubhouse get sprayed with champagne after the World Series ends, 627 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: But that night above all others, stands out And again 628 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: it's of all these nights I could mention the one 629 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: I wish would have never happened, right, But that night 630 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: meant so much, And that's the first one I always 631 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: think of when we talk about something like this. 632 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that you hit it right on the head, 633 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: that it is. It is the night that we can't forget, 634 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: but we wish we would have never known of. And 635 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: the fact actually I wasn't even able to watch the 636 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: game that day, so I had to hear it from you, 637 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: all right, Well I had to hear it from the broadcast. 638 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: And the reality is, the reality is is that that's 639 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: a tough job, and that the way that it was 640 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: done was handled correctly, and that the response from everyone, 641 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: whether it was the broadcast group or whether it was, 642 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: like you said, the Mets, or whether it was the 643 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: other teams, the other players, made it such a night 644 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: that I agree that has to be the response that 645 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: I would get from. You can't even imagine something else. 646 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: It's tough to call a game when you're crying. Yeah, 647 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, Dave and I were both crying for especially 648 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: the early part of that game. You know, that whole 649 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: few days and that whole last week of the season 650 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: where we had to play out the string after that 651 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: was the time that nobody will ever forget. And I 652 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 2: think when you sit back a decade from now and 653 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: look at the path this franchise has taken, I don't 654 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: think you'll be able to tell the story of the 655 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: good and the bad without looking at what happened to 656 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: Jose and how that ended, and what he could have 657 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: been and what he might have meant, and what his 658 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: passing meant to people in this family, because it is 659 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: a family and not just the guys in uniform with 660 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: people around it every day, and they're quite honestly a 661 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: lot of the guys who were in that clubhouse at 662 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: that time. You hate to say they're better off being 663 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: somewhere else, but it's like it could never ever be 664 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: the same for that group with the way things ended 665 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: for Jose and what that meant. And literally every time 666 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: you walk into the clubhouse you think about it, and 667 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: you're around guys, you think about it. It was like 668 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: everything changed. And it's just to talk about what changed 669 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 2: on the field with Jose's passing, but emotionally everything changed, 670 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: and it really altered people's lives and their approach to life, 671 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: and probably in some way, these relationships and things like 672 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: that and in a way, you know, I'm not sure 673 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: how healthy it would have been. And I'm not trying 674 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: to justify anything, but I'm not sure how healthy it 675 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: would have been to keep all those guys together, because 676 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: it just could never be the same when your heart 677 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: and soul is ripped out the way it was with 678 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: what happened in Jose. 679 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe actually yelled that's something to that extent 680 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: that in an interview later that season, and that tragedy 681 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: changed everything for him personally and for the Marlins. 682 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Marcell Ozuna is a guy who has spoken about that. 683 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: Dee Gordon is a guy who's talked about that. Uh yeah, 684 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: it's it's one of those things that changed so many things, 685 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: and it obviously destroyed three families more than anything related 686 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: to baseball. But yeah, that's one of those things that 687 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: you just never ever are able to leap behind. And 688 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: there's literally to this day, not to day, I don't 689 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: think about Jose and think about what happened and what 690 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: might have been. There was that unbelievable Jason Stark piece 691 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: on the Athletic this past offseason about what might have 692 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: been with Jose, And for me, it's one of the 693 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: great baseball discussions, great what ifs in baseball history. Jose 694 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: might go down as the single greatest what if in 695 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: baseball history. You know, Roberto Clement they died tragically, but 696 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: he had three thousand hits under his belt and was 697 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: at the end of his career. What might he have 698 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: done in this game because of what he had done 699 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: in such a short time already, you know, and with 700 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 2: his personality and what he meant to this community, and 701 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: with his history obviously his whole life story and being 702 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: a Cuban in this city. For me, it could be 703 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: easily argued as the greatest what if in the history 704 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: the sport. 705 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Well, Glenn, I'm sorry to get 706 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: you off on a note that is definitely very somber 707 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: for a lot of us. 708 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: I told you I'd wipe the smile off his face. 709 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: I know. 710 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: But see, you got it with the one thing that could. 711 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: You got it with the one thing that could. I really, really, 712 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, appreciate you coming on okay. 713 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: You are amazing at what you do. 714 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing what you do and for the 715 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: people who listen. I hope you know how much your 716 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: support of this franchise is appreciated. It has not always 717 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: historically been the easiest team to support, But what you 718 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: guys do, you know? And there are faces I see 719 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: the ballpark every single night, and certainly names that we 720 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: know fans who literally attend eighty one home games a 721 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: year and travel the road games a lot. For those 722 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: of you who have hung with the Marlins over the years, 723 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: I can't appreciate you guys any more than I do. 724 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: And as I said to somebody on social media and 725 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: all the back and forth I've had recently, you know, 726 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: it's for people like you guys that I'm really hoping 727 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: things get really good sooner rather than later, because you 728 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: guys deserve it. And though hopefully at one point so 729 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: be a lot of people jumping on the bandwagon, but 730 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: I know I won't forget the people who have been 731 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: here through everything, and what you guys do is a 732 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: great service to the Marlins fans out there across South 733 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: Florida and around the country. And I'm happy to do 734 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: this any time. Danny, Let's do part two, Part three 735 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: sometimes call me anytime and happy to talk more as 736 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: as the story evolves and this things change. 737 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely good. Thank you again. 738 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Okay, great stuff. Thank you Danny. 739 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: You can expand the name