Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seat.
Speaker 1: Fourth Bye two legends, legend mate, hilarious stand up comedians
Speaker 1: who host one of the great podcasts to ever do it,
Speaker 1: The Dollar, an American history podcast which just celebrated Speaking
Speaker 1: of American History celebrated its tenth anniversary in existence. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show, Dave, Anthony and Gareth right on, Ye, welcome,
Speaker 1: Thank you guy. Guys.
Speaker 2: How's it Colling is? Happy Prepper Day?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Thanks, report to you as well. May everyone with your
Speaker 3: spirit booth your details.
Speaker 4: I'm teaching my son how to make homemade claymarsh cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that won't blow off in your hands, like oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I lost.
Speaker 4: That's how I lost my last one. But the first
Speaker 4: two if memory yeah too. Okay, yeah, it was two,
Speaker 4: but this one's fourteen. The other ones were eight, So.
Speaker 3: I feel good about where this one's yeah, you're tweaking
Speaker 3: the property, like introduce them to the plastic explosives like
Speaker 3: at eleven.
Speaker 6: That's right, Yeah, right, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Ten years though, is pretty I mean, like we were
Speaker 3: just Jack and our thinking like we're about to we're
Speaker 3: getting into like our seventh year, not later this year,
Speaker 3: and like is that forever? But ten also, like from
Speaker 3: even from seven years feels like a super long time.
Speaker 1: So just so you get each other on your tenth anniversary,
Speaker 1: y podcast co.
Speaker 5: Hosts, Well, tenth tenth is the woods Sacrifice the wooden one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so we jerked off in front of each other there
Speaker 5: you go for the first time for the wood Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, precisely, precisely. No,
Speaker 5: it's absolutely It's really crazy, and I don't even think
Speaker 5: it was. I don't know personally, I didn't really think
Speaker 5: about it too much until we were actually like doing
Speaker 5: a thing for it, and then I was like, this
Speaker 5: is really crazy.
Speaker 1: Ten years.
Speaker 5: In general, I've always thought that about like my niece
Speaker 5: and nephew. I'm like they now I can tell that
Speaker 5: I'm aging because of their existence.
Speaker 2: I'm the same with the dollars, like when.
Speaker 5: We started, I mean the fact that I was like
Speaker 5: mid thirties of like I was a kid.
Speaker 6: Right right right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Child, strange child, babe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, it's great.
Speaker 2: We're very happy and glad to move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, focus on the work, thank you.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, we all bent back to the work talking
Speaker 2: about you know, weirdos.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, yeah, I mean you just I gotta say
Speaker 1: the most recent episode as of this publishing, is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite dolls ever. I've been listening for a
Speaker 1: long time, but still got the fastball, you know, some
Speaker 1: Lebron James longevity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. We went to Germany.
Speaker 5: We got special injections in Germany. Yeah, that's really helped.
Speaker 1: Loose. Yeah we're loose.
Speaker 2: We're still loose.
Speaker 6: Yeah, stem cells straight into the base of the skull.
Speaker 1: You know, you're good. Yeah, we're good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is amazing too because even in
Speaker 3: the episode, you're like, do we have like another like
Speaker 3: a goat side character, and you're and that's ten years
Speaker 3: in and it's still finding just the McCormick dude gave
Speaker 3: us quite a quite quite a lot for me to
Speaker 3: actually envision as you guys were talking about that guy
Speaker 3: and all of his you know, contraptions and lifestyle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some that are like, there's somewhere it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you gotta like, you know, it's historically very interesting and
Speaker 5: you maybe need to try to well out a little
Speaker 5: more comedy. And then there's somewhere you're like, I gotta
Speaker 5: like stop. I mean, this is going to be a
Speaker 5: four hour episode. You know, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Can ribing this guy?
Speaker 7: Actually?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could you read that again?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like I said, I think it was the first time.
Speaker 5: I was like, you read like a paragraph one more time.
Speaker 1: To yeah, amazing. Well, we're actually going to talk about
Speaker 1: that guy because the premise of this episode, we want
Speaker 1: to discuss some of the themes that kind of pop
Speaker 1: up time and again on the doll up in American
Speaker 1: history that we have seen. Now, this might seem strange
Speaker 1: because Americans famously very historically literate people, and that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the cure for having history repeat itself. But
Speaker 1: there are a couple things that we see popping up
Speaker 1: in the zeitgeist, the modern zeitgeist, So we wanted to
Speaker 1: just kind of talk about some of these trends, get
Speaker 1: you guys thoughts on some of these trends that you've
Speaker 1: covered a couple of times and that are still that
Speaker 1: we are covering in our daily his podcast.
Speaker 5: It's funny because it is like history, the saying history
Speaker 5: does repeat itself. It was actually extremely lazy because to
Speaker 5: your point, it's like, yeah, if people just I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm among them, But if people just paid attention, you'd
Speaker 5: be like, hey, no, we're like, that's where we get Nazi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, careful, we did this one. Yeah this is bad.
Speaker 2: We did this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a lot of unemployed soldiers.
Speaker 1: I don't think that goes well enormous, it doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, whatever either way.
Speaker 2: Do you see the Connors this week?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But we got Wi Fi now though, that's a difference. Dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't watch the Connors since it went woke. What
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is revealing about
Speaker 1: who you are or what you're Oh.
Speaker 7: It's a little controversial.
Speaker 8: My search history is always go wacky though, So I
Speaker 8: literally am giving you the most recent thing I looked up,
Speaker 8: which is twelve waitresses kidnapped from North Korea.
Speaker 7: Oh, this is literally the last thing I said.
Speaker 1: The new albums is someone's album.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's USAID sponsored.
Speaker 3: It'll be on Radio America or whatever. Yeah, propaganda news
Speaker 3: radio is Wait, so what's dare I ask what this is?
Speaker 8: It's just this story from a few years ago where Okay,
Speaker 8: so I don't know if you know this, but in
Speaker 8: North Korea they have restaurants in other places around the world,
Speaker 8: and like people from North Korea will go work in
Speaker 8: the restaurants, and I guess there are these twelve waitresses
Speaker 8: who had a manager of this restaurant and they were
Speaker 8: all working there and he was like, yeah, we're gonna go.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be so cool.
Speaker 8: We're gonna go to China to work in this restaurant
Speaker 8: or South Korea, can't even remember which.
Speaker 7: And when they left the country.
Speaker 8: He was like, hah, psych, you're defectors now and I
Speaker 8: just made one hundred k and they were like, what
Speaker 8: like horrified. And so you have these twelve women who
Speaker 8: were like, we just want to go back home, and
Speaker 8: their manager got paid like one hundred thousand dollars to
Speaker 8: traffic them out.
Speaker 7: Of the country. Basically, it's a wild story.
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm pretty sure it's by Nis, which is the
Speaker 8: South Korean's equivalent, like South Korea's equivalent of like the
Speaker 8: CIA or like the FBI, like intelligence services.
Speaker 7: But again, I just cursed. It was like a hasty
Speaker 7: like I remember this story, I need to reread this
Speaker 7: again so it's not super fresh in the mind. I
Speaker 7: pulled it up for later rereading.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, right, so you're right, we're not
Speaker 3: fully vetting anything right now.
Speaker 1: But wait, so they have.
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that there are restaurants outside of
Speaker 3: North Korea that then like just what service like sort
Speaker 3: of like soft propaganda centers.
Speaker 7: I think it's maybe. Yeah, they do like food.
Speaker 8: They also do like song and dance that's like traditional
Speaker 8: to North Korea. I mean, North Korea has like a
Speaker 8: fairly open trade alliance with China, so people from North
Speaker 8: Korea go to China sometimes there's trade that goes back
Speaker 8: and forth between them.
Speaker 7: So I'm pretty sure the bulk of the restaurants are
Speaker 7: in China.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh wow.
Speaker 3: And according to this article, the manager said he according
Speaker 3: to him, he said, these tickets to get them to
Speaker 3: Malays show.
Speaker 1: We're paid for by the NIS.
Speaker 7: There we go. See my memory wasn't so bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, there you go. Okay, interesting right yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's controversial because some people say it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: or people just don't I don't.
Speaker 5: I think people have like.
Speaker 8: A really people have a this is something I've learned
Speaker 8: on the internet s week. People have a real resistance
Speaker 8: to learning anything about what happens in North Korea. So
Speaker 8: I think it's controversial because people are like, there's no
Speaker 8: way a man would be paid one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 8: to smuggle random women out of North Korea to beat
Speaker 8: the factors, And you're like, oh, that happened to this
Speaker 8: guy and he's like, yeah, you got me.
Speaker 1: Right wild Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Americans are definitely like when it comes to like a
Speaker 3: thing that you're so like hit over the head with
Speaker 3: over the years, and like and it's this weird place
Speaker 3: where it's all messed up and it probably has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with anything America ever did. It's just weird
Speaker 3: on its own, on its own, and then you figure
Speaker 3: shit out and you're like wait, I think, wait, what
Speaker 3: what what's happening here? I don't think this is why
Speaker 3: it's weird, but okay, go off, Yeah, are.
Speaker 8: Are involvement is It's like an endless source of fascination
Speaker 8: to me. So I'm always like learning new things, and
Speaker 8: I'm like, oh, what, right, right.
Speaker 9: Right, totally, Joe, What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 9: I think we underrate the toll and task of the
Speaker 9: food delivery driver. And I know there was some discourse
Speaker 9: about this recently and food delivery in general online, And
Speaker 9: I've always felt this way because I used to drive
Speaker 9: for Postmates years ago, and I always felt like the
Speaker 9: understanding that food delivery is an extreme luxury had never
Speaker 9: really been fully understood by the consumer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just have memories of like picking up truly
Speaker 9: like no disrespect but panda express things of this nature,
Speaker 9: driving to a disrespect to.
Speaker 1: The people over at Panda.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but then going to like a terribly difficult area
Speaker 9: of town to park, like if people know La, like
Speaker 9: a place like Korea Town, having to having no choice
Speaker 9: but to park in front of a fire hydrant, in
Speaker 9: front of a massive tower, going inside the tower, having
Speaker 9: to check in with security, having to wait for them
Speaker 9: to activate one of the elevators, which is always Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's always a thing, and it takes a really long time.
Speaker 9: And then you finally get in there, you go up
Speaker 9: to whatever floor they're on, you get off, and then
Speaker 9: you have to navigate the labyrinth that is the Gigantic
Speaker 9: apartment complex, right go to their front door to deliver
Speaker 9: Panda Express to their front door, and there is Listen,
Speaker 9: I don't need a cheerful thank you necessarily. But then
Speaker 9: when you go back in your car, see that you
Speaker 9: have a ticket. This has taken twenty minutes off of
Speaker 9: the clock and they did not tip you and you
Speaker 9: made three dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think it needs to be hammered home that if
Speaker 9: you're participating in this charade, if you participating this and
Speaker 9: this is so like extremely taxing and stressful activity for
Speaker 9: the driver to understand what that's doing and to tip
Speaker 9: them like essentially one hundred percent, Like there is no
Speaker 9: you know, a lot of people online were like, well,
Speaker 9: what if you're neurodivergent and you have to do this,
Speaker 9: And it's like, listen, that's not what we're talking about,
Speaker 9: because I know most majority Yeah, yeah, Like if if
Speaker 9: there's some sort of disability or whatever, that's a different conversation.
Speaker 9: But I know that there's just a lot of people
Speaker 9: who just feel entitled to get food delivered to their door, yeah,
Speaker 9: and not have to pay for the fact that that
Speaker 9: is the most luxurious thing Oh, for sure.
Speaker 3: It is wild because people are like, well it said
Speaker 3: the delivery few was like forty nine cents plus like
Speaker 3: those fees, like that's like isn't that like you're pay
Speaker 3: It's like no, man, that's they're getting a fraction of that.
Speaker 3: You think about pass do it exactly? Like these apps
Speaker 3: are able to skirt minimum wage.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, these aren't employees. These are independent contractors that aren't.
Speaker 4: It's also is brutal.
Speaker 10: Also, I just can't imagine the lack of awareness or
Speaker 10: the evil balls it would take. I would be horrified
Speaker 10: to not tip someone doing that knowing the knowing, like
Speaker 10: the way that kind of system has been constructed. Yeah,
Speaker 10: to ship on the people working there, for sure.
Speaker 1: But I think that's it.
Speaker 3: That's like the genius of so many of like these
Speaker 3: apps and things. It's like they obscure the toll that
Speaker 3: it takes on the human being for you to get
Speaker 3: your fucking, you know, fucking cell phone case that you
Speaker 3: wanted on Prime to say, or you know, getting door dashed.
Speaker 3: It just feels like, I don't know, I pressed a
Speaker 3: button and then like because I put like, don't even
Speaker 3: talk to me, just leave it at the door and
Speaker 3: it just appears, and I know not of the person
Speaker 3: on the other side who's like to deal with the
Speaker 3: same fucking gas prices that everyone else does and just
Speaker 3: getting yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: And if I can, you know, proselytize a little bit,
Speaker 9: I would advocate for meeting your driver maybe out on
Speaker 9: the road. And if you don't want to do that
Speaker 9: and you live in an apartment building at least in
Speaker 9: the lobby.
Speaker 1: Just walk down. Yeah, make it easier for them.
Speaker 9: It's also turnover, turnover, turn and it's it's good for
Speaker 9: you as well because you don't have to like wonder
Speaker 9: if they're going to be able to find your door. Like,
Speaker 9: just make it easy so that you can get your
Speaker 9: food faster and then come back up. The other thing
Speaker 9: I will say is, if you're doing delivery food, really
Speaker 9: reconsider getting a drink or a milkshake because those are
Speaker 9: very difficult to transport. I don't think people immediately consider that.
Speaker 9: But when you have just a bag of food, you
Speaker 9: put in the passenger seat or you put it on
Speaker 9: the floor, it's easy. But if you have something you're
Speaker 9: juggling that could spill, it's very difficult. Well, not only
Speaker 9: to place in your car, as you're transporting it, but
Speaker 9: then as you're trying to pick it up and then
Speaker 9: open your door and then close the car door and
Speaker 9: then lock it and then get to then open the
Speaker 9: door of the building.
Speaker 1: All this stuff.
Speaker 9: If you're juggling like a big frothy milkshake, that's just
Speaker 9: seventeen frappuccinos that you ordered, Yes, exactly. Yeah, there is
Speaker 9: a have you seen There's a subreddit called door dash Gremlin,
Speaker 9: and it's as people who like when they get the
Speaker 9: like the food dropped off, like if they're verifying that
Speaker 9: it's dropped off for the photo. It's people that have
Speaker 9: been caught getting the bag from the door while the
Speaker 9: photo's being taken, so like rather than like the photo
Speaker 9: of like a bag by the door, it's like someone
Speaker 9: like in just a T shirt like Winnie the Poo style,
Speaker 9: like their taco bellt like ah, and so people like
Speaker 9: when they end up being a gremlin, they usually upload
Speaker 9: it and it's always funny to see and like that's
Speaker 9: when you can tell you're like, man, was it really?
Speaker 1: Did you really have to get that delivery?
Speaker 6: But right, I get it sometimes, but look, if you're
Speaker 6: gonna do it, at least fu tip and cost.
Speaker 9: Is like that acknowledge the way to do it a luxury, Yeah,
Speaker 9: in a in a fair equitable way.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 11: Okay, this is pretty niche. What is your just general
Speaker 11: knowledge of David Mammont the playwright?
Speaker 1: I know, I think I read American Buffalo in college.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's the right name. Obviously
Speaker 1: Glengarry Glen Ross and yeah that's and then his daughter
Speaker 1: was in Girls. Yes, that's okay, what I've got for you, perfect, Andrew.
Speaker 12: I was double checking. I I thought he had written
Speaker 12: the only movie I'd ever walked out of it, but
Speaker 12: I was incorrect.
Speaker 1: So I I think of.
Speaker 12: David Mammott as it's just like every character is David
Speaker 12: mammontt I love. I love when everyone has the exact
Speaker 12: same voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, all his characters talk
Speaker 1: the same way. And I and I remember like making
Speaker 1: fun of David Mammont when I was in college was
Speaker 1: like a highly like literary, sophisticated thing to do. Like
Speaker 1: I remember somebody being like, I just imagine David Mammett
Speaker 1: plays as a bunch of chickens up there saying the
Speaker 1: lines to each other and everyone like laughed really hard,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, I get that you've been
Speaker 1: owned Mammot, but I don't know. He felt to me
Speaker 1: like with just very little context, Like it felt like
Speaker 1: one of those people who like gets super big in
Speaker 1: literary circles. And then everyone's like, wait, this kind of sucks, right,
Speaker 1: we were wrong. We were wrong about this, like really
Speaker 1: quickly after that, I had.
Speaker 13: A different I mean, same bit different.
Speaker 11: So unfortunately I went to acting school where David Mammont
Speaker 11: plays are taught to you is good. And also he
Speaker 11: has things where he's like every like no one can
Speaker 11: ever change a word. And not only that, my commas
Speaker 11: are so fucking precise if you do not take a breath,
Speaker 11: where the comma is like you're a actor.
Speaker 13: So like that was how David Mammick kum.
Speaker 7: In my life.
Speaker 11: Then I was like, oh, he's an EPO daughter. Then
Speaker 11: it moved on okay, So he came out with a
Speaker 11: new book recently and it entered my worldview because it's
Speaker 11: like kind of memoir ish and it's called Everywhere in
Speaker 11: Oink Oink, and the tagline is like how everyone in
Speaker 11: Hollywood is a fucking pig like poink oink like and
Speaker 11: it's like how everyone is like not creative and how
Speaker 11: they ruined his projects and how like everyone in a
Speaker 11: suit is pig and I was like, I would fucking
Speaker 11: love to read that. So I get this book being
Speaker 11: like this is gonna this is gonna be a book
Speaker 11: I'd like to read.
Speaker 13: Him shit on like shitting on people. That sounds fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like like one of those like William
Speaker 1: gold Golden memoirs where he just like spills and it's like,
Speaker 1: here's why this sucks, and like he's right half the
Speaker 1: time in a way where you're like, oh shit, that's crazy.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that is what I expected. So impossible to understand
Speaker 11: even a single sentence. I think the second sentence is
Speaker 11: like diversity and equity and have ruined Hollywood. He's full maga.
Speaker 11: Like paragraph one is like and Trump was pretty good.
Speaker 11: Then I'm like, okay, but let's get I'm gonna try
Speaker 11: page two. You can't understand anything. He's choosing high words
Speaker 11: he's not using. It's ineligible.
Speaker 13: I go on good raids.
Speaker 11: The famous David Mammont at that point had four Good
Speaker 11: Reads reviews. When you were famous, you should at least
Speaker 11: get one hundred trolls. Yeah, all four good Reads reviews
Speaker 11: are like, this is not even a book.
Speaker 1: Now he's doing an accident. Was this a mistake?
Speaker 11: He's like, it's exactly what you said where it's like,
Speaker 11: I guess twenty years ago we were like, isn't he
Speaker 11: so smart? And now we've all grown up and we're like, oh,
Speaker 11: he's the dumbest man alive. And he's on a full
Speaker 11: MAGA tour telling people that diversity and equity imis have
Speaker 11: ruined Hollywood. And so anyways, I just in case anyone
Speaker 11: out there didn't know that David Mammont is a full
Speaker 11: on piece of point point himself.
Speaker 1: I wanted y'all.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I guess he was like liberal toast to the
Speaker 11: town and now he's magas.
Speaker 1: Are like kind of getting together and being like this
Speaker 1: is uh, this is a real problem. Some would say
Speaker 1: the real problem diversity in Hollywood is.
Speaker 6: It's the only one disaster.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, even though my daughter was on a huge
Speaker 11: TV show, diversity initiatives are blocking her next fame.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was. She was good in Madame Web.
Speaker 13: But I will say, kid, I can't believe you saw that.
Speaker 12: I will say this one of my top cinema experiences
Speaker 12: of last of this year. Whenever Yurine was out, it
Speaker 12: was really fun. I'll just do the spoiler now, which
Speaker 12: is clearly off of that that like the virality of
Speaker 12: that insane line from the trailer. They cut it in
Speaker 12: the actual cut of the film, and it is like
Speaker 12: the biggest tease. The whole theater wet nuts when they
Speaker 12: don't finish the line.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 13: Wait, what's the line? Because I actively tried to hide
Speaker 13: from any madament.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 12: It's something about like this is the villain whatever his
Speaker 12: name is. He he was researching spiders in the Amazon
Speaker 12: with my mother when she died, right before she died,
Speaker 12: right before she died, somewhere like and they say three
Speaker 12: quarters of the line and then it just cuts, like
Speaker 12: clearly post trailer they cut it, and or maybe the
Speaker 12: line was cobbled together for the trailer, but it was
Speaker 12: like like everyone in the theater was like mouthing the
Speaker 12: words along and then.
Speaker 1: It stops and it was just like, ah, the hits Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone's losing their minds. It's so fun to see in
Speaker 1: her theater. He was in the Amazon with my mom
Speaker 1: when she was researching spiders just before she died. Now,
Speaker 1: you guys are both writers, sometimes you need to get
Speaker 1: exposition out and like just get it out there, you know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I call a studio No. And when
Speaker 11: you're ever, you're like watching TV and you're like, why
Speaker 11: did that happen? It's almost always because they have to
Speaker 11: say something, and if you don't know how to do
Speaker 11: the creative part, you only know how to do the
Speaker 11: logical part.
Speaker 13: So they'll give notes of like but how and why
Speaker 13: is she there? I have really had a big question of.
Speaker 11: That, and I love that the writer was like, he's
Speaker 11: there because the Amazon and she died just before the spiders.
Speaker 2: Okay, fuck you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I literally have had lines in scripts that I've like
Speaker 12: marked on my side of final draft as like this
Speaker 12: is just to get it past you know, the exacts.
Speaker 1: And then there are times when they've almost.
Speaker 12: Made it to air or whatever, I'm just like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 12: no no, I was just giving what you want to
Speaker 12: show you how dumb you were?
Speaker 1: Oh no oh no no no oh no oh no
Speaker 1: yeah wow, Like that line now that is really the
Speaker 1: that's the one that we're gonna want to put in
Speaker 1: the fucking trailer like, h this case, like it's wonderful,
Speaker 1: highly recommend Lynchpin. That was Yeah, I had no idea
Speaker 1: Sydney Sween he was in that movie, like she was
Speaker 1: like having a massive moment, but like they don't even
Speaker 1: like put her in the trailer.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And why did Dakota Johnson say yes? She is
Speaker 11: such a git in Hollywood? Like there's so few young
Speaker 11: stars that will green light a movie, get a green
Speaker 11: a movie greenlit, like for your budget. I imagine she
Speaker 11: could have had any Marvel character, any non Sony Marvel project, any.
Speaker 13: Movie, well even on just not that movie. How did
Speaker 13: they get hurt?
Speaker 1: Why did she say yes? She just vi?
Speaker 12: I think she was basically told you're going to be
Speaker 12: Spider Man. This is identical the Spider Man. Why are
Speaker 12: we speculating this? We could probably yeah, it's I don't.
Speaker 11: Know, but I think listen between, you have to rewatch
Speaker 11: Madam Webb or you have to watch all three fifty
Speaker 11: shades of Gray?
Speaker 1: Which what do you do? Yeah? I told you I
Speaker 1: love Madame Webb? And are you are you disappointed that
Speaker 1: it will not be that the saga of Madame Webb
Speaker 1: will not be continuing for us?
Speaker 12: I like you know, now it's all headcannon. Now she's
Speaker 12: just wearing like Red oak Ley's in the in the
Speaker 12: whole universe of my brain.
Speaker 1: And it's wonderful. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and cover some news, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. And as we were talking about up top,
Speaker 1: one of the geniuses of the dollar is that we're
Speaker 1: hearing these stories that are so outrageous they seem like
Speaker 1: everyone should know them, like they should be in their
Speaker 1: history books or at least have like a couple movies
Speaker 1: made about them. At this point. That's one of the
Speaker 1: persistent thoughts in my head when I'm listening to Adopt,
Speaker 1: is like, how did I not know this? I think, Gareth,
Speaker 1: you say that pretty frequently. But unfortunately, the fact that
Speaker 1: they're not well known in some cases seems like one
Speaker 1: of the reasons some of these trends that we're about
Speaker 1: to talk about never really go away, because there's like
Speaker 1: certain things that we just memory whole as a as
Speaker 1: a at least as a country. I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak for the whole species, but we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: now that never happened. That's too much, that's too entertaining.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we wanted to kind of highlight some of
Speaker 1: these trends or details from past dollup episodes that we
Speaker 1: keep seeing turn up in our show about the moderns,
Speaker 1: Like Ice didn't get you guys thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think it's not so much like their trends, right,
Speaker 3: because it's not like racism isn't like a trend misogyny,
Speaker 3: but it's just sort of like these constants issues, yeah,
Speaker 3: that we like can never grapple with and somehow like
Speaker 3: our besting ourselves from three centuries ago, we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you want to see racism cut to late seven?
Speaker 1: He's Boston or some ship. Yeah yeah, oh okay, that
Speaker 1: was I thought we got past that phase.
Speaker 3: But I think that's the interesting reminder is how how
Speaker 3: little we've actually come, you know, like how like how
Speaker 3: how slow progress is because you have these reminders of like,
Speaker 3: for as much as we want to, especially in America,
Speaker 3: be like, no, we live in like a post racial
Speaker 3: uh you know, like more equitable society like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no, yeah, the freaks are still out in fucking
Speaker 3: full force.
Speaker 1: We just don't we just ignore them.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, yeah, we'll we ignore them. We give them
Speaker 4: more power.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of what it is. It's like we've
Speaker 5: never really been able to bat in the hatch for
Speaker 5: a long time. It's like you have those swings where
Speaker 5: you're like, holy shit, you know, we got to like
Speaker 5: women need to choice, you know, you get whatever.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 5: The the litany of things that we were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: now we're good with that, but there's always that force
Speaker 5: that's always.
Speaker 2: Like I'm still coming, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like when they regroup. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of the phrase, how little we've come and I'm coming, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I want to just start with a light one, which
Speaker 1: is you've covered it, like from the early days of
Speaker 1: the Serial Guys episode about like Kellogg's and Graham and
Speaker 1: Post and how focused they were on keeping people from
Speaker 1: jacking off to the recent episode that I'm drawing waltz Waaltska.
Speaker 11: Is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, where you covered a Hall of Fame side
Speaker 1: character who had a contraption designed to keep himself from
Speaker 1: jacking off on our side. We saw this with the
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House recently, where I don't know if
Speaker 1: this one's worse, it's definitely more convolent.
Speaker 2: Kind of weird involved family.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So we're talking about Speaker of the House
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, who currently, as far as we know, has
Speaker 1: software on his phone that sends his on a report
Speaker 1: if he jacks off to pornography, like his son will
Speaker 1: get we'll be told about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here, because that's just like father son bonding.
Speaker 2: Right, we get it.
Speaker 1: We get it, Dave. We're parents, you know.
Speaker 4: We Yeah, you guys understand, Like, my kid's fourteen, so
Speaker 4: I get like nineteen alert to day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Hearing him describe it to a panel of other like
Speaker 3: evangelicals is really well, like so proud.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He talks about how he first heard it during like
Speaker 3: a gathering of like the Promise Keepers, which is like
Speaker 3: an evangelical like men's group, and he's like, I was
Speaker 3: look at early two thousands and I was like, and
Speaker 3: I'm not even endorsing it. I don't even make money.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I endorse it because I use it.
Speaker 3: But this is him explaining in his own way how
Speaker 3: how this technology works.
Speaker 1: But my head, how it works.
Speaker 14: But it scans you. You obviously opt into it, but
Speaker 14: it scans every all the activity on your phone or
Speaker 14: your devices, your laptop, tablet. What have you, We do
Speaker 14: all of it, and then it sends a report to
Speaker 14: your accountability partner. So my account accountability partner right now
Speaker 14: is Jack, my son, right and so he's seventeen. So
Speaker 14: he and I get a report of all the things
Speaker 14: that are on our phones or all of our devices
Speaker 14: once a week. If anything, your accountability partner gets an
Speaker 14: immediate notice. I'm proud to tell you my son is
Speaker 14: he's got a clean slate, all right, But we get
Speaker 14: we get a report and it says, hey, no, no
Speaker 14: activity of concern. And it's really really sensitive. It'll pick
Speaker 14: up almost anything. It looks for keywords, search terms, and
Speaker 14: also images, and it will send your accountability partner a
Speaker 14: blurred picture of the image. And so on occasion I
Speaker 14: get one. I was just looking at the one from
Speaker 14: this week I got on Jack, and it said this,
Speaker 14: this is the only one that may be questionable. And
Speaker 14: it's this blurred image of two women talking in a
Speaker 14: live screen thing and I zoom in and I have
Speaker 14: to unblur it and it's in it's two middle aged teachers.
Speaker 5: Okay, cool, Well, then the technology actually fucking sucks if
Speaker 5: it's looking at two teachers talking and it's like pawn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't say, he didn't say what they were doing.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be teachers genre.
Speaker 5: And then I saw the image and that I had
Speaker 5: jacked off to it. And then so I said, Jack
Speaker 5: a message that my.
Speaker 4: Son are jerking off together in different rooms. That's what
Speaker 4: the that's what the technology is for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm glad.
Speaker 3: I just I'm glad he's taking you know, him and
Speaker 3: his you know, his mother and I we split, but
Speaker 3: and I got remarried, and he he actually seems really
Speaker 3: close with his stepmother, at least based on what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing all these searches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he walked in on him the other day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and decided to teach him, teach him how
Speaker 3: it really start actually jerk.
Speaker 2: Off, which I said, to tend me a image of that.
Speaker 4: I wonder, I wonder how his son has figured out
Speaker 4: to get around the technology to be able to watch porn,
Speaker 4: because you know.
Speaker 5: It's just so fucking clean. It's the dumbest ship in
Speaker 5: the world, because it's like it is, it's just like, look,
Speaker 5: first of all, just let the a jack off, like
Speaker 5: he's not into this.
Speaker 1: Like you you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He watched the jack off, like let him.
Speaker 1: Figure it out.
Speaker 5: Like, you know, I was able before phones. I was
Speaker 5: able to find naked fucking pictures, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are ways ripped like physical ripped out pages
Speaker 3: from magazines that like held onto like they were the
Speaker 3: Dead Sea scrolls and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh man, it's all I got.
Speaker 3: But like, also, you could get a burner phone. I'd
Speaker 3: imagine you could just get a burner phone. If he
Speaker 3: has to jerk off mobiley or whatever, use his friends
Speaker 3: go to the library like adults do.
Speaker 4: What would be awesome if your dad was like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: I want to set this up and you'll be my
Speaker 4: accountability partner, and then you just start just constantly jerking
Speaker 4: off until he's like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to be here. Really disturbing. Man,
Speaker 1: all right, you wanted to see what's up? What's going
Speaker 1: on in this body town?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm having a real asshole renaissance dad.
Speaker 1: But this is yeah, I mean this is persistent across
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm missing some, but like the the guy
Speaker 1: who created like ankle ankle harnesses that I would keep
Speaker 1: his hands on his ankles, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's entire like there's the Oh God, what
Speaker 4: was the sanatorium in Michigan called the Battle Battle Creek
Speaker 4: like that? That place was just a myriad of like
Speaker 4: ways not to jerk off, like there were just there's
Speaker 4: just been there's been tons of these about history of
Speaker 4: people just like how can we not do this? And
Speaker 4: it all comes out like you said, this is from
Speaker 4: the religious uh Promise Keepers, which we did an episode on,
Speaker 4: But it all comes out of that because it's just
Speaker 4: them talking to each other and they don't realize everyone
Speaker 4: else is like, no, that's crazy, but they're just in
Speaker 4: their little group and they're like, yeah, we shouldn't be
Speaker 4: jerking off, right and everyone else so much it's good.
Speaker 5: What's so great about the male body is that if
Speaker 5: you don't jerk it off in your sleep, it will
Speaker 5: fucking jerk you off, Like you can't get away from it,
Speaker 5: Like you can't tell me that's not part of God's plan.
Speaker 5: If I go to sleep and my pen is just
Speaker 5: like we're gonna ejaculate to like what is the line here?
Speaker 2: Like my brain is jacking my dick off at night?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Back to those preppers who are trying to figure out
Speaker 3: if the gas and the drums is still good. It's like, no, man,
Speaker 3: you got to get rid of that. Yeah, yeah, get
Speaker 3: it out, man, Refresh, refresh, exercise really shit. Yeah, It's
Speaker 3: just like was that machine though, like I know you
Speaker 3: were calling it the hankle machine, I think Gareth and
Speaker 3: the show, But like, is was that like an articulated
Speaker 3: device like that we knew what it was or was like,
Speaker 3: is that is that some custom work?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I think I think really he just had a thing
Speaker 4: that he could clamp his hands to his ankles, right,
Speaker 4: so he yeah, he was like so he must have
Speaker 4: slept like bent over, like in a really painful, terrible position.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm sure he had a horrible back aches.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, so it was like a clamping your
Speaker 4: likes yeah.
Speaker 1: Jackals, Yeah, wackles, and of course probably people who just
Speaker 1: wanted to jag off more than anybody else and assumed
Speaker 1: everybody else was struggling with this same issue, right and
Speaker 1: so yeah yeah, but yeah, I mean, and it is
Speaker 1: like the fact that it's how we got like so
Speaker 1: much breakfast cereal. In an indirect way, Graham Crackers is
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, we we let we let
Speaker 1: ourselves remember puritanism because you know, people like trying to
Speaker 1: be puritanical about sex and you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I think there's just like something so inherently embarrassing
Speaker 1: about about.
Speaker 15: People just feeling like, ge't stop jacking off over here,
Speaker 15: like let's water spring water that they just gets memoried.
Speaker 4: The Graham cracker thing and the grape nuts thing is
Speaker 4: just crazy, like they really thought of food would stop
Speaker 4: them from jerking off. Like it didn't work. Yeah, obviously
Speaker 4: there's no like they keep eating him and everyone's like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm still hard as a rock.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: How about they all like, you know, the fact that
Speaker 5: he needs a fucking app so like it really is.
Speaker 5: It's it's so I never know what that line is
Speaker 5: because it's like, well, you have the compulsion to do it.
Speaker 5: Why is where is the line on.
Speaker 1: What you know?
Speaker 2: God has created him? What is your own sinful way?
Speaker 1: Like shouldn't you shouldn't you just not want to jack off?
Speaker 1: But how we're tested, we're tested with sin you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like such a weird, bizarre flesh video game.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, because it's also just like at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like whether it's Puritans or cereal makers
Speaker 3: or Mike Johnson. It's like this weird denial of humanity.
Speaker 3: That's like you guys are keeping you're just going to
Speaker 3: the next thing. So back in those times, you're like
Speaker 3: I need leather straps. And then the next thing was
Speaker 3: like what if we ate these fucking crackers And it's
Speaker 3: like no, and now it's like, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know anything but acknowledging the like, look, jack off.
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't jack off. There's probably more problems in
Speaker 2: the streets period.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for a lot of these guys though,
Speaker 4: it's more about what they actually what turns them on.
Speaker 4: Like you know, they get in there and they're like, well,
Speaker 4: hold on, this dick and balls was kind of nice,
Speaker 4: and then they started out like.
Speaker 5: They legislate against gay marriage and all that stuff, and
Speaker 5: that I mean, if you really think about like the
Speaker 5: Republican Party, the leader of it was a pedophile like
Speaker 5: in the two thousands, and you know it was just
Speaker 5: like a confirmed, confirmed, fucking pedophile, and we don't ever
Speaker 5: look back on that like, hey, maybe these people protest
Speaker 5: too much, you know, yeah right right, yeah, well that
Speaker 5: sucks all right.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we have an app now where your son knows
Speaker 2: you're not beating off.
Speaker 1: All right, All right, let's move on to this. This
Speaker 1: was one that we noticed recently with the Caitlin Clark
Speaker 1: first press conference, oh god, where she had just been
Speaker 1: drafted number one w NBA had either recently or was
Speaker 1: about to sign a massive like Lebron James sized deal
Speaker 1: with Nike or not Lebron James size, but you know,
Speaker 1: a massive deal. And she had her first press conference
Speaker 1: at her new team in Indiana, and like one of
Speaker 1: the journalists was like flirty with her, was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I like you. You keep doing that. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: along just fine. And everyone's like fucking gross man, like
Speaker 1: the heart symbol I do to my family after the game, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. That's fine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like how he laughed though, too, And you could tell,
Speaker 3: like the like, based on how the mic was, you
Speaker 3: could tell he's like turning like his head for laughs,
Speaker 3: like right, no.
Speaker 2: With a sporting instrument.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean there's also the what Women's World
Speaker 1: Cup player getting like a forced celebration kiss from one
Speaker 1: of their coaches? Oh like them they had to resign.
Speaker 1: But I was, you know, re listening to the Boston
Speaker 1: Marathon episode that you guys did about the first women
Speaker 1: to run the Boston Marathon, and you know, the first
Speaker 1: woman kind of does it in secret, and then the
Speaker 1: second woman like kind of people people catch on pretty
Speaker 1: early and it becomes this massive real world reenactment of
Speaker 1: mad Max Fury Road where there's this guy who's just
Speaker 1: chasing her around the twenty six mile course like in
Speaker 1: a bus, like take her out and try to tackle her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but after she's successfully completed it, there's this quote from
Speaker 1: a race official who's like, we need rules. Basically if
Speaker 1: that girl was my daughter, I'd spank her and again
Speaker 1: like just wildly embarrassing, like but like almost certainly said
Speaker 1: with at least three quarters of an erection, you know,
Speaker 1: like just what what are you talking about? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it I don't know. It just feels like this is
Speaker 1: a consistent trend that we see where specifically in the
Speaker 1: on the field of play, like that is where men
Speaker 1: like really just like put their foot down and they're like, nope, no,
Speaker 1: that not not on my watch. We cannot have impressive
Speaker 1: athletic feats. We must find a way to sexualize.
Speaker 3: And diminish you, right, or just like we said that
Speaker 3: to be like and I'm the man, and I get
Speaker 3: to say this shit to you, even though you may
Speaker 3: be one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
Speaker 2: But anyway, right, it's very weird in a country that
Speaker 2: like claims that capitalism is going to show you, you know,
Speaker 2: let capitalism rule and all that. You're also like it shows.
Speaker 5: The fragility of the male ego to be like, but
Speaker 5: not that because the sheets so women. But that's been
Speaker 5: going on. Like we did another episode. It wasn't about sports,
Speaker 5: but it's about women wearing pants and running. Oh and
Speaker 5: like you know, they were like before they were like
Speaker 5: it's just always been something. It's like, you can't you
Speaker 5: if it literally they were like if women run, they're
Speaker 5: like uterises will drop out. Yeah, like there's no connection
Speaker 5: to reality. That's not really necessary. It's always just like you.
Speaker 2: Know, we're doing this for your own good sweetheart, right yeah.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, the way that like a reporter feels
Speaker 5: comfortable talking to a woman, I mean it is shocking.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess at least we're shocked by it
Speaker 5: and we're not. And it's not like a bunch of
Speaker 5: guys smoking cigarettes and be like go on.
Speaker 2: A date with her. Lady come on, go on, you
Speaker 2: to date the man he made the hot symbol.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure he's married, he's only forty years older, but.
Speaker 1: He's got wisdom.
Speaker 2: But it's totally a theme totally in this country.
Speaker 1: It's wild though too.
Speaker 3: I was like just thinking about the oops, my uterus
Speaker 3: fell out, kind of like myth that persists in like sports.
Speaker 3: And there's an example in twenty ten. This guy Jan
Speaker 3: Franco Casper, who is the head of the International Ski Federation,
Speaker 3: like doubled down on a thing he said in two
Speaker 3: thousand and five. They're like, now, what were you saying
Speaker 3: about ski jumping in women? And basically was saying, like,
Speaker 3: it's not appropriate for ladies from a medical point of view,
Speaker 3: because again, the impacts could be so jarring that the
Speaker 3: uterus is dislodged.
Speaker 5: It's like you could say, but like you could very
Speaker 5: easily be like a man could rupture his scrow, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. A guy could ruin his ball
Speaker 5: skiing too, right, Yeah, I mean I guess thing could happen.
Speaker 3: That shows like the sort of patriarchical nature of being like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm looking out for your one value that you have
Speaker 3: to society, which is to reproduce. And if if I
Speaker 3: don't do that, then I failed as a protector or controller.
Speaker 6: I don't know, that's up to you how you want
Speaker 6: to describe that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, immediately imagine a scenario where she's your daughter, you
Speaker 1: fucking creep. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't let her ski exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's take a quick break. We'll come
Speaker 1: right back. We got a couple more trends to hit.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. And yeah, so
Speaker 1: David Busters introducing more gambling to Dave and Busters place
Speaker 1: that is an arcade for children, presumably. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess there's always likes bar and ship. Yeah. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a big barrash Dave Busters. Yeah, but they won't be
Speaker 1: like sticking a Roulette ta between ski ball machines. But
Speaker 1: they will be allowing social wagering on games played between people.
Speaker 1: Oh shit over eighteen mm and only. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: take a kid for it, but you can get the
Speaker 1: parents to co sign. You know, it's a proxy. Yeah, hey, man,
Speaker 1: go get your go, get your mom's phone.
Speaker 6: Go get your old man over here. Man, we'll have Yeah,
Speaker 6: you have to do it through their d MB rewards.
Speaker 1: App Uh huh, Which why do you need an app
Speaker 1: to make bets with friends instead of just handing someone
Speaker 1: cash and like shaking hands.
Speaker 3: With them and being yeah, yeah, the old the old
Speaker 3: ways where you'd be like, I bet I could beat
Speaker 3: you a ski ball.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, put five on it, all right, put it up.
Speaker 6: But now we need I guess the.
Speaker 1: Issue is nobody has cash anymore. We got Venmo shiit.
Speaker 3: I just I just fucking bet people about the fucking
Speaker 3: Arsenal game on Sunday light wagers, but still just do
Speaker 3: it on Venmo, allegedly they.
Speaker 7: So I've never been to a Dave Inbusters.
Speaker 8: I had no idea what was I thought it was
Speaker 8: an arcade for adults initially, but it's a bar.
Speaker 7: So like theoretically, if you got your kids and.
Speaker 8: You're like, you know what, I hate being a parent,
Speaker 8: you could just be like, I'm going to go in
Speaker 8: here get trashed.
Speaker 7: Well, my kid plays in a ballpit. Is that kind
Speaker 7: of like the idea?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or it's like like her video games? Yeah, literally
Speaker 1: exactly what you just described about a week and a
Speaker 1: half ago.
Speaker 7: Now, because you hate being a parent, you love being
Speaker 7: a parent, but.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you need a break. Sometimes went to the bar
Speaker 1: ordered ordered some boneless wings. They have pretty good boneless
Speaker 1: wings there, and watched my kids play Rampage for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. Oh, the old school.
Speaker 3: Arcade game where you're like the mutant animals like sucking
Speaker 3: up the buildings and yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1: That's like the Rock.
Speaker 3: Movie that came out, And I was like, yeah, this,
Speaker 3: y oh, you're just using the characters and trying to
Speaker 3: shoehorn the Rock into something again.
Speaker 1: Thinks there's a Lakers game on. There was Rampage that
Speaker 1: my kid's playing Rampage. There was a celebrity there for
Speaker 1: some reason, and yeah, so I'm changing my.
Speaker 8: Whole position on David Busters immediately. Then I think maybe
Speaker 8: David Busters is the third space. Our society has been
Speaker 8: really lacking, and I think we should just have a
Speaker 8: David Busters on every corner. This is actually making me under.
Speaker 8: This is actually a pro family environment, and we need
Speaker 8: more places where you can bring your kids and drink
Speaker 8: and gamble simultaneously all across.
Speaker 1: The United States. Do you hear that Vegas?
Speaker 7: We need a mini Vegas on every corner.
Speaker 1: I like it exactly.
Speaker 3: We need people need relief, man, so just let their
Speaker 3: kids go fight over how many tickets are gonna come
Speaker 3: out of a little coin pusher game that everyone you
Speaker 3: always think you're gonna win.
Speaker 6: Everything's a racket.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like now they're definitely like making themselves to
Speaker 3: be like hey man, it's also like it's a fun
Speaker 3: place to have a date. Like you can eat and
Speaker 3: you can play. You get the eaton plate combo. Yeah
Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's like their new Like.
Speaker 8: I want to say I'm above that, but like, also
Speaker 8: I go to Barcade, so I think, really, this is
Speaker 8: just selling me on Dave and Busters and I think
Speaker 8: I needed a comic.
Speaker 1: Until you go.
Speaker 3: Barcade has a distinctly different vibe than Dave and Busters.
Speaker 3: You will go to Dave and Busters and you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm in consumer hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of birthday parties. It's already just
Speaker 1: pulsating with anxiety and the screams of children, where like
Speaker 1: you can't tell if they're delighted screams or just freaking
Speaker 1: being taken.
Speaker 7: Right eighth birthday. That's where I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, do a takeover with adults, like do that
Speaker 3: thing where like you've ever been like an arcade, like
Speaker 3: as a kid, like a bunch of adults come in.
Speaker 6: You're like, they shouldn't be here. There's like our kids space,
Speaker 6: and like the vibe shifts, just do that.
Speaker 1: The Dave and Busters and one of my kids birthday
Speaker 1: parties that we had at an arcade, it was like
Speaker 1: all their friends from kindergarten. And then a guy like
Speaker 1: a leather duster and one leather glove on his hand,
Speaker 1: who is just there like playing this one one video
Speaker 1: game over and over and over again. It's just like
Speaker 1: a professional. He's just like all right, like got there
Speaker 1: early with his cup of coffee. Just work.
Speaker 8: Wow, I am now humiliated to discover I've probably been
Speaker 8: this leather jacket one glove man at various points in
Speaker 8: my life, especially the Santa Cruz Beast boardwalk, Miss.
Speaker 7: Pac Man machine. Yeah yeah, there you go, an unhealthy
Speaker 7: obsession with that thing for a while.
Speaker 6: Lovely boardwalk though, gotta say beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But so this is part of a boom and
Speaker 1: betting that they've found increases engagement among sports fans. Digital
Speaker 1: gamification could have a similar effect within Davembuster's customer base.
Speaker 1: But the amount of money they're making let me find
Speaker 1: the exact figure. So US commercial gaming revenue which includes
Speaker 1: sports betting, online gambling slots, and table games, reach forty
Speaker 1: nine point nine billion in the first ten months of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, up fourteen point seven percent from the
Speaker 1: same period in twenty twenty one. So you're over Your
Speaker 1: revenue reached an all time high in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: So they're just like all that legal betting, all the
Speaker 1: fact that there's like gambling commercials on TV during like
Speaker 1: sporting events, like is working, which makes sense, Like of
Speaker 1: course it is. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: This company that's doing it is called Lucra, like Lukera
Speaker 3: bro get it. It's because it's Lucrat TIV.
Speaker 1: It's like Miles, you drop the TIV it's clean. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: hey what about TIV man? No, man, it's Lucra. All right,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: I still think TIV is a pretty cool name because
Speaker 3: he could be anything. But yeah, started by two former
Speaker 3: Goldman Sachs guys, and they're just like but again, like
Speaker 3: this is like what's really infuriating about it? Like with
Speaker 3: one hand, like sports betting, you understand how that works,
Speaker 3: where this one it's like, what exactly is this sir
Speaker 3: us you're providing?
Speaker 1: Well, we're careful not to use the term bet or
Speaker 1: a wager. We are because that makes us subject to
Speaker 1: licenses and regulations gambling, which is what are We merely
Speaker 1: facilitate real money contests or challenges.
Speaker 7: Oh those are my favorite things.
Speaker 1: Real money contests or challenges. Yeah, or challenge.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's perfect.
Speaker 7: I love doing that, and I love doing it on
Speaker 7: an app that ostensibly takes a fee. We're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yes, what is their cut on this?
Speaker 7: How much.
Speaker 1: Of every winning winner? Like when somebody wins, they lose
Speaker 1: five percent on it and it's all just again could
Speaker 1: be replaced with a brief conversation and a handshake, but
Speaker 1: instead people get to use this social media app.
Speaker 3: It just feels like super clunky though too, you know,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like because the way already,
Speaker 3: if you're like a degenerate in you already are like
Speaker 3: trying to find action on like anything, Like you're like,
Speaker 3: what about Keyball, dude? You want to you want to
Speaker 3: gamble on that? Like you're not gonna be like all right,
Speaker 3: sign into Lucra, all right, now, find me a right.
Speaker 3: Oh oh there's another person, miles great, all right here,
Speaker 3: let me get my QR code.
Speaker 1: Okay, grinder for people with gambling problems, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but also like who around me would be willing to
Speaker 1: wager on whether this coin comes up heads three times
Speaker 1: in a row?
Speaker 3: Right, It's just like a weird I get like on
Speaker 3: paper why they think this is like the wave, But
Speaker 3: I also just feel like we always talk about frictionless transactions.
Speaker 3: This is introducing way too much friction into just like
Speaker 3: people social wagering or doing real life money challenges over
Speaker 3: fucking the hoop hotshot hoops game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The the app has like push ups, can Jam,
Speaker 1: bar agains, board games, fitness so you can like NBA
Speaker 1: k is like the top trending game.
Speaker 7: Oh second, one you read an jam? What is that?
Speaker 3: It's this thing where like you you have cans and
Speaker 3: you're trying to throw like a frisbee into like a slot.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like part of this new generation of
Speaker 3: like games people have just invented. But then everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 3: hell yeah, dude, I love hell yeah, I love can Jam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like carnival games.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, this kind of reminds me of when everybody
Speaker 8: was really into like disc golf. Yeah, like frisbee golf
Speaker 8: and you're like, what is and it was so popular
Speaker 8: for like a year and then.
Speaker 1: Just still popular. It's still popular. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's like a like a frall frisbee golf spot near
Speaker 3: like this part I go to in town and there
Speaker 3: are people do There's people there every fucking like on
Speaker 3: the weekends in the morning.
Speaker 7: Like it's like we're gonna get can jam courses soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's in our parks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is kind of fun because you can like like
Speaker 3: smash the and it's just a frisbee game that you
Speaker 3: can just do with low stakes. It's easy to understand.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we love a new we love a new
Speaker 3: backyard game in this country.
Speaker 1: I cleaned out on candy Land, you guys on Lucra Bro. Yeah, Lucra,
Speaker 1: I owe my next three paychecks because I just got
Speaker 1: on a real bad run where I kept drawing that
Speaker 1: ice cream cone one even though I was like right
Speaker 1: at the end, so it just kept taking me back there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's why I only do shoots and ladders, man. So
Speaker 3: I got my Lambo. You're one of the great pushing
Speaker 3: that lambeau because it shoots and ladders, bro. People people
Speaker 3: said it couldn't be done man, and anyway, just so
Speaker 3: just for the listeners, you can take my course I'm
Speaker 3: offering right now on Instagram. I'll show you the secrets
Speaker 3: on how to use Lucra so you can also have
Speaker 3: a lambo.
Speaker 1: I was actually just shot ladders.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, if you had some sort of online course,
Speaker 8: I could spend roughly one hundred and ninety nine dollars
Speaker 8: on well for like a thirty minute YouTube video.
Speaker 7: So I'm so glind to know.
Speaker 1: I'm so bad. I think the parentheses shoots and and
Speaker 1: parentheses ladder to success exactly. But I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm not one of these people who's trying to
Speaker 3: gouge people for some kind of like you know, impersonal
Speaker 3: scam thing like you said, one hundred ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 1: No way, for ninety nine dollars, that's a great deal
Speaker 1: actually now, yeah, ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 3: You will get a link to a TikTok playlist of
Speaker 3: some videos that just kind of threw together.
Speaker 1: But it's exclusive videos my next week. Yeah, oh you will,
Speaker 1: you will. I'm gonna have to pull you in a datedbusters.
Speaker 3: Are you good at any video games? Like do you
Speaker 3: think there is something like you feel confident enough. You're like, y'all,
Speaker 3: I'll put twenty on that.
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, but they're all outdated games like the
Speaker 8: games I'm really good at with stuff you played like
Speaker 8: on Nintendo.
Speaker 7: In the eighties.
Speaker 6: You know, Duck Hunt.
Speaker 8: So the Duck Hunt great. The one game though that
Speaker 8: it's like, I'm so good at it. It's stopped being
Speaker 8: cool and became embarrassing is Mario Kart. Like you can
Speaker 8: tell people socially. Sometimes people will be like, oh haha,
Speaker 8: you have a switch you went, do you want to
Speaker 8: play Mario Kart?
Speaker 7: And it's so bad.
Speaker 8: I have to do like a pream. We'll have to
Speaker 8: be like, okay, we could play Mario Kart. There's some
Speaker 8: things you got to know.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be fun for you.
Speaker 8: Number one, I can handicap myself in the game to
Speaker 8: make it fun for you.
Speaker 7: For you, it's so embarrassing. And the worst part is
Speaker 7: people like, oh ha ha, cool, You're good, and then
Speaker 7: you play and.
Speaker 8: Then it reaches this awkward moment where I'm just like
Speaker 8: destroyed everyone and I have storing wait for them to finish.
Speaker 7: And it's like not cool. It's like putting everything you like.
Speaker 8: I can tell you did this for many hours in
Speaker 8: lou of forming real bombs with human beings.
Speaker 1: They have art. Have you played the arcade version of
Speaker 1: Mario Kart? Oh my god, I'm afraid.
Speaker 3: Full sit down with a steering wheel. It's like really
Speaker 3: fun anyway, So what do you do?
Speaker 7: I'm going to be clean and up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. Who do you race with? What character
Speaker 1: do you race with? Oh?
Speaker 7: What character? You got to go the midweight characters.
Speaker 8: So if you play on the switch, you can play
Speaker 8: with yourself, with your me because it's a midway. Yeah
Speaker 8: yeah yeah, but otherwise, yeah, you want to stick to
Speaker 8: like Mario's a midweight character. You know, I got the
Speaker 8: whole because so embarrassed, God is humiliating. I have the
Speaker 8: I do want the vehicle for perfect balance.
Speaker 7: Like it's like it is real embarrassing. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 7: the thing. Certain things.
Speaker 8: It's like when you go to karaoke and you watch
Speaker 8: someone and they're like so good at karaoke, starts to
Speaker 8: get a little depressing.
Speaker 7: You're like, yeah, yeah this is important to you. You're
Speaker 7: good at it, Like things could have gone differently for you.
Speaker 8: But like you work in accounting, you know, like it's
Speaker 8: like that it's at a certain point you're so good
Speaker 8: at things that it's just kind of sad, and yeah
Speaker 8: it is unfortunately.
Speaker 7: I mean with Mario Kart, there a.
Speaker 1: Whole demeanor changes. As they sing the first lines of
Speaker 1: I Will Always Love You. They're like, oh my god, Okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: get out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the people are coming in crying. They're like,
Speaker 3: you're not even part of this party. But the thing
Speaker 3: with Mario Kart, it's so funny. Like I was playing
Speaker 3: with my nieces and nephews who are like just getting
Speaker 3: like they have a switch, and like, I'm really good
Speaker 3: at Mario Kart, and I did the opposite of you.
Speaker 6: I said, oh okay, i'n't played in a minute, and I'm.
Speaker 9: Like, you.
Speaker 6: Stupid, stupid, stupid young child.
Speaker 1: I got you right where I want you.
Speaker 6: And the first time I did the boost on them,
Speaker 6: like off the off the starting line, they were like.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've been down since nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: Don't even attempt to get with me. The booster has
Speaker 1: had you time it with the yeah, yeah, yeah, just you.
Speaker 1: It's all Margins, baby.
Speaker 6: When you're racing, you learn that from Formula one, you know,
Speaker 6: And yeah I like that, and I fuck with Luigi.
Speaker 7: You know that if you're not drifting, you're not winning.
Speaker 1: That's just how it using a break. So drifting is
Speaker 1: a part of it, because I thought I was pretty
Speaker 1: good by the by the time I was done playing
Speaker 1: in sixty four Mario Kart for a while. But so
Speaker 1: drifting do the boost? I think I know those two
Speaker 1: tricks got anything else that I should.
Speaker 8: You just want you want your build to be really solid,
Speaker 8: Like you want to go with a midweight driver, a
Speaker 8: midweight vehicle, and then you want to do a heavyweight
Speaker 8: tire and a lightweight they have like the Umberella thing attacked.
Speaker 8: I a't fully understand the function of the umbrella. I'm
Speaker 8: being perfectly honest.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have found this is the ultimate build.
Speaker 8: And again this is very this is not making me
Speaker 8: look cool at all, where it's like you're too invested
Speaker 8: in this for your age.
Speaker 3: But we all have that, Like I have video games too,
Speaker 3: where I'm like putting hours of my life away and
Speaker 3: my partner, her majesty, she'll be like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like I got to get all the characters to look
Speaker 1: the right way She's like, have you've played yet. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't until they look right.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean that's fair. I think that's that's real.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, you know, games are important to people in different ways,
Speaker 3: so who am I to judge, Especially with a game
Speaker 3: like Mario Kart, where I'm I always like to It's
Speaker 3: always interesting to see the people.
Speaker 1: Who are like no, I get down with the cart.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, all right, I got some ideas
Speaker 1: for next time you're on.
Speaker 8: So yeah, and I do have some money making opportunities
Speaker 8: awaiting me at Dave and Busters, which.
Speaker 1: Is good you could actually, I think so they like
Speaker 1: the games that you can play for tickets have like
Speaker 1: a certain number of lights, like a certain color of
Speaker 1: like lights around them. At the Dave and Busters that
Speaker 1: I was going to and my kids played the ones
Speaker 1: that like you couldn't win tickets on, and it was
Speaker 1: hugely disappointing to everybody involved. So there's a little pro
Speaker 1: tip for you. Yeah. By the way, the country, like
Speaker 1: experts are saying that America's gambling problem, exacerbated by like
Speaker 1: the convenience of apps, is a ticking time bomb, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure it'll be fine.
Speaker 6: But oh yeah, dude, I love that song from Rancid, Like.
Speaker 1: Forty nine point nine billion dollars is so many lost bets.
Speaker 1: That's like such such a massive like that's all it is.
Speaker 1: That's all money being made off of people losing.
Speaker 3: Bets, right, the same thing as like when you think
Speaker 3: of like a crypto millionaire two when it's yeah, right, right,
Speaker 3: right right, that's right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's definitely a sign that an economy is
Speaker 8: going really really well.
Speaker 1: I think when society and gym, yeah.
Speaker 7: Daddy's going up.
Speaker 1: I think that's good.
Speaker 6: And you have to win the lottery to be like it.
Speaker 6: And now I can treat my illnesses, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Speaking of which, one of the big powerball winners
Speaker 1: is a cancer patient. So it was a one point
Speaker 1: three billion powerball jackpot and a immigrant from Laos was
Speaker 1: the big winner. Is taking the lump sum of four
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two million after taxes, splitting it with
Speaker 1: a friend and claimed that he wants to now quote
Speaker 1: find a good doctor with the money. Despite meter reports
Speaker 1: that this is a heartwarming story. Winning the powerball jackpot
Speaker 1: should in no way be a prerequisite for accessing life
Speaker 1: saving health care. But it's like one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like teachers are buying their own or like
Speaker 1: this this millionaire like that his kids public school didn't
Speaker 1: have books, so he bought it. Isn't that cool? Isn't
Speaker 1: that heartwarming? I guess? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Wow, such an American story.
Speaker 8: It really is, especially considering that the person emigrated from Laos,
Speaker 8: which is like the most heavily bombed country on the
Speaker 8: planet thanks to the United States. So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 8: we destroyed your country, come over here, win the lottery
Speaker 8: to get access to life saving care.
Speaker 3: It's just like this, and who knows what kind of
Speaker 3: chemicals you may have been exposed to in Laos, like
Speaker 3: if you're born there, because there's still just a fuck
Speaker 3: ton of unexploded munitions just littered everywhere because they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: fuck it, man, just dumping a louse, keep it moving, Yeah, and.
Speaker 7: People are still finding them to this day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 8: It's really it's just like here's a whore, here's a whore,
Speaker 8: here's the exactly back to back compounding horrors.
Speaker 15: Wow.
Speaker 8: I mean, but it's sad that the like feel good
Speaker 8: story thing kind of works on you, right, because I
Speaker 8: was like, oh my first instinct like, well, at least
Speaker 8: a cancer patient won the money, and you're like.
Speaker 7: God, this is so bleak.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, and it's like, you know how many other
Speaker 6: people have or cancer and are currently trying to treat
Speaker 6: it and they're probably in a similar situation.
Speaker 3: It's like that's where you're just like horrified, and I
Speaker 3: think anyone's had an intersected with cancer and their family
Speaker 3: or lives just knows how like just fucking awful like
Speaker 3: it is and how destructive it is, like at every
Speaker 3: level emotionally, physically, everything, And you're like yeah, and like
Speaker 3: just to think that the relief that this person experienced
Speaker 3: in the midst of all that is like, well, I.
Speaker 6: I won four hundred and twenty two million, so now
Speaker 6: I can have a good doctor.
Speaker 1: Like, who are you gonna buy an island?
Speaker 6: It's like I want medical care?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wins we get in America. At least it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a hedge fund billionaire who won the jackpot.
Speaker 1: He's like, I found a system for buying up all
Speaker 1: the tickets, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like for ten for fifteen thousand dollars, you're
Speaker 3: guaranteed to net thirty at least.
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