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Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The on the Road Again addition,

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals look for their first road win in

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Speaker 1: more than two years as they face the Dolphins this

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Speaker 1: Sunday in Miami. Coming up, Dave Lapham joins me to

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Speaker 1: discuss the latest Bengals news, including a pair of roster

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Speaker 1: moves that happened on Wednesday. My one on one player

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Speaker 1: interview is with second year running back Trey Von Williams,

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Speaker 1: who finally got a chance to carry the ball a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago and is hoping for more opportunities over

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Speaker 1: the final five games. And in our Know the Faux segment,

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Speaker 1: we'll get the scoop on the seven and four Dolphins

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Speaker 1: from Cameron Wolff, who covers the team four ESPN. The

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Speaker 1: since Season two of Peyton's Places, So This is an

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Speaker 1: update of a previous Greatest Thing Since last year, future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback Peyton Manning hosted a thirty episode

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Speaker 1: documentary series called Peyton's Places in conjunction with a celebration

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's well worth a subscription to ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 1: Now time for my conversation with Dave Lapham. We started

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Speaker 1: with a couple of roster moves that the Bengals made

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Offensive lineman Xavier Suaphilo is activated from the

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Speaker 1: injured list. He hasn't played since hurting his ankle in

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Speaker 1: Week one. Unfortunately, to make room on the roster for him,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Auden Tate went on the injured list with

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Speaker 1: his shoulder injury that will require surgery. Auden's expected to

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Speaker 1: be back in time for training camp. But the Bengals

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Speaker 1: will obviously miss his contested catchability over the final five

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Speaker 1: games of the year, no doubt about it. Dan, he

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Speaker 1: is probably the guy that makes more fifty fifty players

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Speaker 1: In today's National Football League a lot of times there's

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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of separation. So Auden Tape becomes

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Speaker 1: one of those guys where he's open when he's covered

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Speaker 1: tight quarters, compressed field, all those sorts of things. So

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Speaker 1: that's a weapon that you'd like to have for sure,

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Speaker 1: as in the final five games of the season. Let's

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Speaker 1: turn to Xavier to a Philo. He signed a three

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Speaker 1: year free agent deal in the off season. He got

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Speaker 1: What do you think happens with him for the rest

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Speaker 1: wonder if you know they're still monitoring how he's coming back.

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Speaker 1: what's been lacking a little bit. Redman just can't stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: be one of these players that that just can't can't

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Speaker 1: and Sue A. Philo could be a guy to go

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Speaker 1: And his play has been wildly inconsistent. One week he'll

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Speaker 1: Now they're seven and four this year. That's twelve and

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Speaker 1: coach Brian Flores says, that is a real thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: approaching things and what your vision is UM, it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: change based on based on wins or losses. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm We tell the guys we want consistent players as

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Speaker 1: they walk through the building every single day. We need

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Speaker 1: to know what to expect from them. I sure as

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Speaker 1: heck and not going to be any different than the

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Speaker 1: day I was the day I showed up on the

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Speaker 1: job and believing what the staff is asking these players

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Speaker 1: to do. Believe that the players have bought in and

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Speaker 1: they know that this is the right way to do it.

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Speaker 1: And we're not going to change just because of We're

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Speaker 1: not going to change our personalities or the way we

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Speaker 1: go about our business just because of the trials that

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Speaker 1: we faced. Mike Brown gives coaches a chance. There's no

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Speaker 1: question about that. He values continuity and a coaching staff

441
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Speaker 1: and doesn't like to make changes unless he is absolutely

442
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Speaker 1: forced to. David Shula started out five and eleven, three

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Speaker 1: and thirteen, three and thirteen. He not only got a

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Speaker 1: fourth year, he got a fifth Bruce Coslet seven and nine,

445
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Speaker 1: three and thirteen, four and twelve, he got a year

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Speaker 1: after that and then decided to quit after an oh

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Speaker 1: and three starts. So having said all that, we know

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Speaker 1: that ownership is patient, but do you think this coaching

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Speaker 1: staff have to show them something in the final five weeks? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would, you would think so, Dan, And uh, honestly, two,

451
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Speaker 1: this organization doesn't like to pay two head coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a big part of it. If you if

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Speaker 1: a head coach is under contract, you still that's guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not it's not like there's guaranteed portion

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Speaker 1: and not guaranteed portion like in standard player contracts. Coaches

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Speaker 1: have to be paid if they are under contract and

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Speaker 1: they're still not providing services where you still have to

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Speaker 1: pay them. Uh, And then you don't want to pay

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Speaker 1: necessarily two coaching staffs, two head coaches and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of double paid assistant coaches. That that becomes part of

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Speaker 1: the part of the equation, part of the process. But um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean when Zach talks about knocking the wall down,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of fans think there's walls behind walls.

464
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Speaker 1: You knock one wall down and then another one pops up.

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Speaker 1: It's right there. You know it's it's at some point

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Speaker 1: in time and everybody understands it. You know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not like you're it's not like you're developing. You're like

468
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Speaker 1: the the D League for the NBA, you're not developing

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Speaker 1: players to play at the highest level, and in wins

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Speaker 1: and losses may not be as paramount as they are

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Speaker 1: at the NBA level. This is the national Football It's

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Speaker 1: not like minor league baseball getting guys ready for their

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Speaker 1: major league career, and wins and losses are important there,

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Speaker 1: but not as much as at the highest level of

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Speaker 1: the Major league baseball team. There is no other team.

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Speaker 1: This is it. You're competing at the highest level in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League, so you're you're evaluated on wins

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Speaker 1: and losses. So at some point in time, you know,

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Speaker 1: you got to start winning these games where it takes

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Speaker 1: one play. You got to make the play, make the play,

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Speaker 1: avoid the mistake that will win you football games instead

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Speaker 1: of so many of them going in the wrong column.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer.

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Speaker 1: It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor.

485
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Speaker 1: Now time for this week's one on one player interview.

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Speaker 1: This week, I caught up with running back Trayeon Williams,

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Speaker 1: a sixth round draft pick last year, who is starting

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Speaker 1: to get the opportunity to show why he had such

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Speaker 1: a great college career at Texas A and M Trevie

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Speaker 1: had a lot of Bengals fans, myself included, have been

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Speaker 1: eagerly wondering when you would get the opportunity to carry

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Speaker 1: the ball, and you did recently. You got your first

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Speaker 1: five regular season carries a few weeks ago against the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: What did that mean to you? Man? It meant the world.

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Speaker 1: It just really showed that, you know, if you have

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Speaker 1: a dream and you have something that you want to achieve,

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Speaker 1: and it always might not work out the way that

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Speaker 1: you want it, but if you stay persistent, if you

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Speaker 1: stay dedicated to it, it'll it'll come around full circle

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Speaker 1: at some point. So it meant a lot. You had

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Speaker 1: a thirteen yard pass reception last week. Do you think

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Speaker 1: a play like that might lead to more opportunities? Oh? Yeah,

503
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Speaker 1: for sure, I'm hoping, you know, hopefully, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the game plan every everything this week hopefully I get

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to go out there and just make players.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just I just want to play, that's it.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be able to help my team

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Speaker 1: and put them be able to put my team in

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Speaker 1: the best position win. Just want to be out there

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Speaker 1: with my guys and just having fun to play ball.

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Speaker 1: That's it. We're visiting with running back trevy On Williams.

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Speaker 1: You are in a talented room with Joe Mixon, Giovanni

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Speaker 1: Bernard and Sam J. P Ryan. That requires patience. Are

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Speaker 1: you a patient person? Oh? Yeah, and it's crazy. First off, man,

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Speaker 1: we gotta outstanding room. I don't. I don't think people

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Speaker 1: believe and really understand how talented this room is. You know,

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Speaker 1: all four of us are guys that can go in

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Speaker 1: and make plays at any point in the game. But um,

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Speaker 1: and it's crazy that you say patience because I never

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Speaker 1: knew I had this much patience until I got to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Um. You know, they don't tell you this

522
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff when you're a kid, that this is

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Speaker 1: out of the NFL it might work out like this,

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, throughout the time, my patience has

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Speaker 1: been tested in and I've been doing pretty good so far,

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Speaker 1: Trev and a couple of years ago you led the

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Speaker 1: SEC in rushing for Texas A and M. That puts

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Speaker 1: you on a list with names like Dre Henry mark

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Speaker 1: Ingram Ammt Smith, Bo Jackson, herschel Walker and many others.

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Speaker 1: What does that accomplishment mean to you? Meant a lot,

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Speaker 1: meant a lot. But that's dedication to hard work, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's testament to hard work. And just um, all the

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Speaker 1: guys that was around me. Um, I had outstanding line

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Speaker 1: at Texas and Mum, you know what we were. We're

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Speaker 1: able to have one of our guys keating Southern, he's

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Speaker 1: here with us. We had Jim Turner officive line coach

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Speaker 1: and um, you know that was the first year with

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Speaker 1: jimbo Fisher. So it was really running that pro star

539
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Speaker 1: offense and had a fullback in front of me. It

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely enjoyed it. And then it's crazy because I ran

542
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Speaker 1: for exactly a mile. Sixty ran for exactly a mile,

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Speaker 1: So I enjoyed every bit of it, enjoyed every carry

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Speaker 1: and it was it meant a lot because you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a be able to be a part of

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Speaker 1: some great names. Like you said, do you remember the

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00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: details of your last college game? Oh, I mean I

548
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: remember a couple of details of it. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: NC State. I was able to play Ryan Philly and

550
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Speaker 1: Jermaine Pratt. Jermaine Pratt didn't play. But oh man, it

551
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: was so much fun. I can't explain the level of

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Speaker 1: fun that game was. Playing in the Gator Bowl and

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Speaker 1: enjoying those last moments with my teammates and doing all that.

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Speaker 1: It was an absolute last I couldn't I couldn't change

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Speaker 1: that moment for the for the world final score fifty

556
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Speaker 1: two to thirteen Texas A and M wins. Let me

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Speaker 1: give your stats. Twelve carries, two hundred and thirty six yards.

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Speaker 1: I'm twelve carries. Oh jeez, dog, that's crazy that you said.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember I had twelve carries. I could have.

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Speaker 1: It felt like I had more, but all the running

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Speaker 1: that I was doing. But man, that's a that's a

562
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Speaker 1: that's a good game, pretty good game, including a ninety

563
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Speaker 1: three yard touchdown run. So you showed off your wheels,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I had to have to,

565
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Speaker 1: you know, get them old up and all the gas

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Speaker 1: and to think to finish it off. We're chatting with

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Speaker 1: trey ViOn Williams. It's obviously been a tough year for

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Speaker 1: the team, including a couple of weeks ago when Joe

569
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Speaker 1: Burrow suffered his knee injury as a young teammate hoping

570
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Speaker 1: to play alongside him for years to come. How tough

571
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: was that for you? Man? That was tough. Talk about

572
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Speaker 1: a guy first off, with Joe Burrow, a guy that

573
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Speaker 1: can come in immediately and gain the respect of all

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Speaker 1: his teammates. So to see him go down like that,

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Speaker 1: oh man, it was devastating. And if you were in

576
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Speaker 1: the stadium, it was no fans in the stadium, so

577
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: it was already quiet. But when he went down in

578
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Speaker 1: a year to hear the whole stadium with pitch silent,

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Speaker 1: and just to hear him, you know, grimace and kind

580
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Speaker 1: of you know, being pained, it was hurting. That was

581
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Speaker 1: that was bad and just fell for the guy because

582
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: he's a great guy and guys that comes to work

583
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Speaker 1: every single day and puts his body, in his mind

584
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Speaker 1: and everything on the line just to put us in

585
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Speaker 1: positions to be great. So that was tough to see

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Speaker 1: him go down like that. But um, you know it's

587
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Speaker 1: you hate to say it, but it's those are the

588
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: bad things that comes with this game. But you know,

589
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Speaker 1: we're all behind them and hopefully he gets back one

590
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Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy and ready for the next year. Trey ViOn,

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00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: You've got a very up eat personality. What keeps you

592
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: grinding for the final five games of the year. Just

593
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Speaker 1: my son, I would say, my son, and and just

594
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: the guys around here. Man. We got a great group

595
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: of guys. Um coach Taylor Man, he's a coach that

596
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: we all love, and we all go to war for

597
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: him every single every single day, every single game. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we just gotta keep keep pumping. There's a

599
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: lot of things that we can still achieve with the

600
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Speaker 1: remainder of this season, So we gotta take a game

601
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: by game and hopefully we can still achieve that. So

602
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Speaker 1: your son was born in early June. What's been the

603
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: best part of fatherhood so far? Oh? Man? Just um

604
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: just saying that smile. It's crazy because he's turned six

605
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: months in a couple of days. So just to see

606
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: him every day and just see him gain so much

607
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: personality day by day. Man, It's it's an absolute blessing.

608
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: And just to see a little me. It's it's it's

609
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Speaker 1: absolute blessing. I'm so blessed to have him and wouldn't

610
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Speaker 1: change it for the world. There a little mini football

611
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: in the crib. Oh yeah, most definitely coming coming. You

612
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: already know there that there's a football in play. And

613
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: he's very centible with his hands. He loved to use

614
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Speaker 1: his hands and stuff. So hopefully he takes after his

615
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Speaker 1: dad and he wants to play football. Well. As I

616
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Speaker 1: said at the beginning of our conversation, it was great

617
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Speaker 1: to see you get those carries against the Steelers a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I think on behalf of all

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Speaker 1: Bengals fans are hoping that you get a bunch of

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Speaker 1: opportunities for the rest of this season. Best of luck

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Speaker 1: and thanks for the time today. Oh thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me. Hopefully the opportunity takes itself and

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Speaker 1: the best of the year plays out. Thank you out

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Speaker 1: time for our know the faux segment. The Miami Dolphins

625
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: are seven and four. They're currently one game behind Buffalo

626
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Speaker 1: and two games ahead of New England in the AFC East.

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Speaker 1: Cameron Wolf covers the Dolphins for ESPN, and he joined

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Speaker 1: lapping me on the Bengals Game Plan Show. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback situation. Cameron, as of today Wednesday of

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Speaker 1: game week, what's your best guests to UH or Fitsie

631
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's up in the air. I think if

632
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Speaker 1: I had to make a choice, I would probably say tah,

633
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Speaker 1: he's practicing. We drip talked to him about fifteen minutes

634
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Speaker 1: ago on the media call. He said he's feeling good. Um,

635
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Speaker 1: he left it up to the coaches and the training statum.

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Speaker 1: We talked to one of his receivers, to Keim Grant,

637
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Speaker 1: and he said he looked great to him and he

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Speaker 1: was throwing it normal. So all that, to me kind

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00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: of gives the indication that he's healed enough to play.

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Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately it's going to be Brian Floors

641
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Speaker 1: watching and does he feel like a ninety is better

642
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: than one hundred percent fit. That's something that I don't

643
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Speaker 1: know for sure. So I think this is something that

644
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Speaker 1: will probably go down to maybe Friday, maybe he's in

645
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Speaker 1: game day if they want to push it. But if

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Speaker 1: I had to choose, I think it'll be TOA. Okay,

647
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: besides TOA, they had six picks in the first three rounds,

648
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Speaker 1: so five picks besides tah and all the money that

649
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: they spent in free agency. They stripped the franchise down

650
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Speaker 1: basically and had all this cap space and went out

651
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: and they got all these players and all these new editions.

652
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: It's a it's a very different football team and what

653
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: played last season the Bengals, in the in the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: In your mind, which player or players, a player or

655
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Speaker 1: a couple of players have made the most significant difference

656
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Speaker 1: in terms of what they got in the drafting free

657
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: agency from last year. Yeah, I think the most immediate

658
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: difference has been on defense. And you got to look

659
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Speaker 1: at you know, maybe two or three games they were

660
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: able to sign in free agency. They spent a lot

661
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Speaker 1: of money bringing Byron Jones in a cornerback, and he

662
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: has really helped really all set Sabian Howard on the

663
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Speaker 1: other side, Xabian Hollar has already been you know, their

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Speaker 1: star corner for a while, but now he has a

665
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: tag team partner, so teams can't avoid him anymore. And

666
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Speaker 1: you know, now x has seven interceptions, So I think

667
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Speaker 1: Byron Jones has been a big part of that. And

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Speaker 1: then Amahuel Ogba, He's at eight sacks. They've signed him

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Speaker 1: in free agency defensive end, and he's been a wrecking

670
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: ball up front getting pressure every week. He's in top

671
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: ten in sacks, top ten and QBE pressures. And then

672
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy's their signal caller and the linebacker in

673
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: the middle is another guy they signed in free agency.

674
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Speaker 1: So they really overdid this defense completely, and they've gone

675
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: from the thirty second scoring defense in twenty nineteen to

676
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: the second scoring defense this year. So it's been a

677
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: heck of a turnaround and I think those guys are

678
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: at the center of it. That is an amazing stat

679
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: we're talking to. Cameron Wolferd covers the Miami Dolphins for ESPN.

680
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: Miami's defense has nineteen takeaways, third best in the NFL.

681
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: They've had at least one and seventeen consecutive games. That's

682
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: the longest streak in the NFL. Is there a simple

683
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Speaker 1: explanation for why they're coming up with so many takeaways? Yeah,

684
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Speaker 1: I think they've been super aggressive. This is a team

685
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Speaker 1: that even last year, they like to play a lot

686
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Speaker 1: of man the man defense, and you can have the

687
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Speaker 1: talent to be able to hang up in those situations. Now,

688
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, they have the talent, so it's

689
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Speaker 1: going to present offenses for the situation where they have

690
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: to make a lot of quick decisions and drest. They've

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: been sending a lot more blitches. They've been doing a

692
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: lot of pressure upfront to really confuse quarterbacks and and

693
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: sort of disguise pressure. And then on the back end,

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Speaker 1: they've got two really good corners who can play man

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Speaker 1: and man coverage. Of those those takeaways that you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: Exabian Hours got seven of them. He leads the league

697
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Speaker 1: in interceptions, So he's a guy where if you're a

698
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: little home with the pass, he's going to take it away.

699
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a combination of there, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: there residing scheme up front and also having guys in

701
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: the bank they can make plays on it. So they

702
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Speaker 1: draft twa with the first pick, the first first round pick.

703
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Speaker 1: But then they then they go and they draft Austin

704
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Speaker 1: Jackson with the other first round pick. One of the

705
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Speaker 1: second round picks, they draft Robert Hunt. Then the fourth

706
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: round they draft Kinley. So they draft three offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback that they drafted. How have those

708
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Speaker 1: rookie offensive lineman performed this year? They've been They've been

709
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: prolatively solid. I won't say they've been great. They've handled

710
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Speaker 1: up in Septon down, particularly over the last couple of weeks.

711
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Speaker 1: But I think you look at him particularly awesome Jackson

712
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Speaker 1: at leftop. Well, he's the guy who's been a week

713
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Speaker 1: one starter and he's been pretty solid throughout, and he's

714
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Speaker 1: a guy where you feel pretty comfortable that he's going

715
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Speaker 1: to be your left Tapple for next five or ten years.

716
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Speaker 1: And on the right side, they got two big guys

717
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: like you mentioned in Solomon Kinley and Robert Hunt, and

718
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Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out what's the best position

719
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: for rob Hunt where there's gard Tapple. But all those

720
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Speaker 1: guys in are starting some disky games this year. When

721
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Speaker 1: you have pretty rookie alignment who were starting in your

722
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: holding uple okay on offense, that's good for your long

723
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: term future team. So I think that's the way they

724
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: wanted to build this team to their trenches. And you

725
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: know now they've got three guys they believe in who

726
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: could protect their quarterback for years to go. We're spending

727
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: a few minutes with Cameron Wolf, who covers the Dolphins

728
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Speaker 1: for ESPN. Early last year everybody said they're taking they're

729
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: taking for twa they traded Menca Fitzpatrick, they traded Laramie

730
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Speaker 1: Tunsell and Kenny Stills. They traded Kenyan Drake. Well, they

731
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of draft picks for it. They opened

732
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Speaker 1: up a bunch of cap room, and now one year

733
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Speaker 1: later they're seven and four and currently the number six

734
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Speaker 1: playoffs seed in the AFC. Is it generally the feeling

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Speaker 1: now that it worked. I mean, whether they were tanking

736
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Speaker 1: or not, the strategy clearly seemed to work. Oh yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: It's been such a change in atmosphere. You know, I

738
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: was covering this team last year and it was it

739
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: was rough at times, you know, in the locker room

740
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: around the facility, that's talk around, whether it's nationally or locally.

741
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Speaker 1: And they've made it through it. So I guess they've

742
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: made it through the roughest part of the storm and

743
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: now they could to taste their fruits. And the other

744
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: part of it is they still have two first round

745
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: picks and two second round picks this year from the

746
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Speaker 1: Houston Texans trade of Laramie Tunsels, so that even done

747
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: finishing building this team. So yeah, I guess you can

748
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: say it's worked to an extent. You know, you still

749
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: have to figure out can you win when matters? Can

750
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs? Can you win those games?

751
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen a turnaround like this in a

752
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: long time, from being a laughing stock, you know, probably

753
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the least talented team in the league to a team

754
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 1: that's you know, got a good chance to make the playoffs.

755
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: So I definitely think that the team building deserves a

756
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: lot of credit, and now they just have to finish

757
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: the job and gets her playoffs. The all important third phase,

758
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: special teams. Miami's outstanding I mean, Flores has a special

759
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: team's background, Danny Crossman's great and unbelievable coach number one

760
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL in punt returns, number number two in

761
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: the NFL covering punts, number one in the NFL covering

762
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: kickoffs and then returning kickoffs down the line a bit.

763
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 1: But I mean three out of the four phases either

764
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: one or two in the National Football League. Who gets

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00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: credit for it? Is it just a connglomoration of everybody,

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00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: head coach, special teams, coach players. What's going on special

767
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: teams wise? Yeah, I think you start got to start

768
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: with the coaches, right, I think a lot of it

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00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: depends on do you have a head coach that carries

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00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: about special teams, And you mentioned Brian Forward having a

771
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: background there. They've really put assets into that that group.

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: You know, jackiem Grant's the best returning the league. He's

773
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: already ran two touchdowns back. He's a speedy guy. They

774
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: really they signed him to an astension last offseason. He's

775
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't really made a name for himself

776
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: as a receiver, but they spent money on him because

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: they believe in him as a returner and they're getting

778
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Speaker 1: that back. You know, Jason Saunders is a guy they

779
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: drafted a couple of years ago. He's you know, eight

780
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Speaker 1: for eight on kicks over fifty yards this year, and

781
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: that's something that just doesn't happen in the league very often.

782
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: And they even drafted a long snapper in the sixth

783
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: round this year, which all of us scratch our head at.

784
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: But that that, to me showed how important special teams

785
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: is for them. So yeah, I think it's a It

786
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: starts with the organizational and a coaching perspective that hey,

787
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: we value special teams, so we're gonna put the resources

788
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Speaker 1: in it, and it's paid off. Howe has two unlooked

789
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: in the four games that he started, I'd say the

790
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: best word to describe it would be efficient. He's had

791
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: six touchdowns to zero interceptions, so he hasn't turned them

792
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: all over like a lot of rookies done have done.

793
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: But he hasn't had, you know, a superstar game yet.

794
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: He hasn't thrown for four hundred yards even three hundred yards,

795
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of the the question marks around him

796
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: is is he willing to take those chances down the field.

797
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: So I think that you've been, you know, sort of

798
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: happy with what he's done, but you want to see

799
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Speaker 1: him take the next step. He's shown that he's mobile,

800
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: he's shown that he can, you know, make plays when

801
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: put into those situations. He just has to learn his

802
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: personnel a little bit better. He doesn't have the receivers

803
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: that he had at Bama who are streaking, goping down

804
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: the field, so he's been forced to throw into tighter windows,

805
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: which he's been a little headed sensive to do. So

806
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: I think they're happy with the development, but he has

807
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: to take that next step for him to be you

808
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: know that justin Herbert types of sess that he's happening happened,

809
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: so far as a rookie. Ryan Fitzpatrick was the leading

810
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: rusher on the football team last year and as a

811
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: team averaged three point three yards per carry, last in

812
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Speaker 1: the league. This year, at this point in the season,

813
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Speaker 1: three point six yards per carry dead last in the

814
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: league as well. Why can't get the running game going? Yeah,

815
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: that's been a Chilees heel for them for three years now,

816
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: even before Brian Floors got here. I think it's a

817
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: fun Like we mentioned earlier, they got a lot of

818
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: young golphins, a lineman who are holding up actually a

819
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: pretty well. And pass protection but they haven't really made

820
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: a name for themselves yet. And run run blocking and

821
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: to me as husually as the opposite. But for some reason,

822
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: this group has got pass blocking earlier than run blocking.

823
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: So I think they've got to grow and be able to,

824
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, get better in that unit. And also they

825
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: just don't have a true running back that they can

826
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: believe in and give the ball to and trust for

827
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: to get the dirty yards. You know, They're probably gonna

828
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: get Miles Gasking back this week. He's been their lead

829
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: back for motional the year. But he's a guy who

830
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: was a seventh round pick a year ago. Who didn't

831
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: play much at all, so you sort of unheralded guy.

832
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: So I think you'll see them off this offseason, really

833
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: spend resources at running back and receiver and try to

834
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: get more playmakers for two of going forward because they

835
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: don't have them right now. My last question for Cameron Wolf,

836
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: who covers the Dolphins for ESPN, I want to turn

837
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: the clock back to the last game of last year

838
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: because they played into England. The Dolphins really had nothing

839
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: to play for. New England was playing for a first

840
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: round by the Dolphins win the game in the final minute,

841
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: New England is forced to play a first round playoff game,

842
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,959
Speaker 1: which they lose. The Chiefs jumped up to the number

843
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: two seed and won the Super Bowl. How big was

844
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: that win for building Miami's momentum so to speak going forward. Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: I think it was huge, mostly because I think it

846
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: was sort of the calling card for that team to

847
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: show that, you know, we aren't tanking, you know we

848
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: aren't just the lasting sight that everybody was gonna do.

849
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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned that Patriots team, that they would have

850
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: won that game, they would have had a first round

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Speaker 1: by so they had the lock to play for and

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00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had nothing to play for and they went

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00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: up to New England and being so I think everybody

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00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: on that roster I've talked to said that was their

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00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: favorite game of the year, and I think it created

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00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: some momentum. You know, I think people already started to

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00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: believe in Brian Floors, but that win said hey, you

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00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: know this guy can really, you know, really make make

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00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: make chicken salad out a whole lot of stuff. So

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00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: what happens when we get talent? So I think that

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Speaker 1: helped him get free agent to come side here. A

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00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: lot of people saw that and said, Okay, that's something

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Speaker 1: we can believe in. And it also, like I said,

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Speaker 1: sort of put a stamp on his culture and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're not just about the talk. We're going to turn

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Speaker 1: this thing around. So I think that was huge and

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Speaker 1: it didn't really impact their ability to get too like

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00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: a lot of fans worried at that point. So it

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00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: all worked out for him. They were able to win,

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Speaker 1: not to take us off the pedal stool and get

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Speaker 1: two all on one del song. Final question for me, Cameron,

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Speaker 1: and appreciate your time. You've given us a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: It's regarding Ryan Fitzpatrick. He wasn't happy obviously when he

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Speaker 1: was benched for TUA, and I guess if he was happy,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a good thing. Obviously he's competitive. But

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate him playing after this year in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League or do you think he retires, goes

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00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: off from the sunset with his wife and seven children. Yeah,

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00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: it's a good question. I mean, he just turned thirty

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00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: eight last week. He doesn't really have anything else to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: He played for every team in league. Just about UM

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Speaker 1: and he But the one thing that I keep going

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00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: back to is every time I talk to him about um,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing and what he's gonna give it up,

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00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: he says that he loves playing more than just about

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00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: everything else. So I still get to feel that if

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Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for him, and I think this is important,

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Speaker 1: if there's an opportunity for him, a real opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be a starn in twenty twenty one, then I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: move out him coming back to do that. Um. I

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Speaker 1: think if it's just a backup opportunity, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he comes back for that. But if he really has

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Speaker 1: a chance to play, UM, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: ready to give it up. He's a guy who's played

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Speaker 1: World this year even though they got too and he's

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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: starting now and is a starter. We've seen Ryan Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 1: lead them to a four and three record and looked

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Speaker 1: pretty solid doing it, so there's zero question that he

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Speaker 1: still has the ability to do it. It's the one

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Speaker 1: and I think if he has a starting job, or

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Speaker 1: at least a chance to one and starting job, that

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Speaker 1: might be enough for him to say, hey, I'll come

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Speaker 1: back for another year. I agree, he's not gonna he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna move, leave his family, or relocate his family

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Speaker 1: for a backup job anywhere. I agree, he's got to

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Speaker 1: start or it's over right. I think you're own the

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