1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy pros Football Podcast. I'm your host, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Bobby Silvester, and on today's show, I've got producer JP 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Gaylee by my side. Say hello, mister producer. How's it going, Bobby, 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: It's going great. In our guest for today's Greg Smith 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: of two qbes dot com. If you want to check 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: out this side as brand new this season, and he 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: just posted a great article on quarterback analysis over the 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: past few seasons, so you'll definitely want to check that out. 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: The side is two qbass dot com. That's two qbs. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: We'll be chatting about some training camp headlines, running through 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: two mock drafts together, talking about both bounce back candidates 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and regression candidates, and of course hitting up some trivia. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: Before we jump into the show, I want to ask 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you guys again briefly, please help out the podcast to 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: get our feet on the ground by subscribing on iTunes 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: and leading us a quick rating. I really appreciate the 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: people who already took thirty seconds to do this to 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: the show. And also, if you want to follow me 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter, I can be found at Bobby Fantasy Pro. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: All right, JP, ready for some fantasy football. I am 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: ready let's go. Here we go, and I'm now joined 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: by Greg Smith of two qbs dot com and if 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: you want to follow Greg on Twitter, he can be 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: found at Greg Sauce. Hey, Greg, how's your weekend? It 25 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: was very good, Bobby, Thank you for having me on. 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: It's it's good to be here. We're we're very glad 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: to have you, so Greg. One of my biggest pet 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: peeves just happened. Just happened. I was setting up for 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: the podcast and I put three chords on top of 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: one another. They were all untangled, no worries. Came back 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: ten seconds later and all three chords were tangled in 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: like eighty five places. How in the world does this happen? 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: I think it's gremlins or gnomes. Where you live. Well, 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I have thought about this a bunch of times, and 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: every time I think, Okay, the next time I put 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: chords on top of one another, I'm going to record 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: it in slow mo to see what happens. But I 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: always forget. So maybe one of you guys can figure 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: this out for me. Maybe it is gremlins or gnomes. 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I absolutely hate it. Greg, do 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: you have like a big pet peeve? Big pet peeve. 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: How do I want to put this? They're just bad drivers. 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: Bad drivers are the ones who pissed me out, but 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: the people who are very unaware of their surroundings as 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: they drive. There's nothing that pisses me off more than 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: someone who's just kind of puttering along in the fast lane. 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: And I do drive a little aggressively, that's my own fault. 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like, you got to 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: be paying attention to what's going on around you, right, Yeah, yeah, 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Bad drivers. I feel like that's like 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: one of the most common ones. But there's a reason 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: for cliches, like they're the most common things. You know, absolutely, 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: I have so many pet peeves. I could you an 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: entire podcast every single day about about my pet peeves. 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I could just go on and on. Anyway, let's move 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: on to fantasy football. There hasn't been a ton of 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: news since the last podcast Dared, but there have been 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: a few nick neck injuries and some hypes rounding certain players. 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: So let's take a look at some of the training 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: camp training camp head lines, Greg, can you give us 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: your quick take on a few of these circumstances, The 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: first of which Adrian Peterson just tweaked as Hammy, and 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: we all know he's getting up there in age. So 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: one player who's really talented. I've always loved Jerick McKinnon 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: in the backup running back there in Minnesota. So if 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: AP does go down at some point, what kind of 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: player do you think McKinnon's going to be. I mean, 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: he has top five running back upside if Adrian Peterson 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: isn't playing. I mean, we know that the age Cliff 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: has been approaching for AP for a long time. That 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: offensive line in Minnesota has been improved over the off season, 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: and you know, McKinnon's skill set really mentions with what 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Bridgewater does. You know, Yeah, shotgun heavy approach, Like there's 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity for him there in that offense. 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: The only problem is that Peterson is so entrenched as this, 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest running backs of all time. 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how that all shakes 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: out through the season. I've been drafting McKinnon a lot 79 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: in the later rounds, probably overdrafting him at times, kind 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: of banking on that Adrian Peterson injury, But but I 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: like him a lot this year. Yeah, I definitely think 82 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: he's a good investment. And you know AP is a 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: freaking nature, so the injury is probably not going to happen. 84 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: So if he does, I'll be glad to have McKinnon 85 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: on all my teams, even if he's not a handcuff 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: for for AP. Yeah, and yeah, he has upside. You know, 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: even with AP there, he's going to have a little 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: bit of play out of the backfield as a receiver. 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: AP has never been very good at that. And I mean, JP, 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I hear you're a Vikings fan, Do you have anything 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: to add on that. Well, I'd just say that, like, 92 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: this is probably the best thing to happen for Adrian 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: Peterson because I know he hates training camp, so he'll 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: he'll milk this injury up until maybe even the start 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: of the regular season. I agree with everything you guys 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: are saying, like McKinnon is better in that shotgun off, 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: but I'll just echo what you said earlier and that 98 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Peterson is he's one of the greatest of all time 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: and they're going to give him work regardless. So I 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: like McKinnon as a backup. But I don't think i'd 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: be concerned at all about this injury. If I was 102 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: an Adrian Peterson owner of course, so we all know 103 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: DeVante Freeman was the big dog last year. But still 104 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: people are calling for de Ben Coleman to take over 105 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: the job, and it doesn't help that he's absolutely shredding 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: up Falcons training camp. Is it ridiculous to think there 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: could actually be a running back battle with the top 108 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: scoring back in football from last year? I mean, no, 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: they drafted Coleman to do that, right, I mean he 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: was always supposed to be involved in that sort of 111 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: a capacity, and DeVante Freeman just had such an amazing 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: year last year that Coleman never really got the chance. 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I still think Freeman is hashtag V guy 114 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: for what he offers to them out of the backfield, 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a pass catcher. But you know, Tevin 116 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: is going to get a lot more carrious this season, 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: and he's a fine handcuff type, if not just a 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: good speculative play in the middle rounds. I'm really interested 119 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: to see what happens here because you know, with what 120 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: happened with DeVante freemanix year. Obviously is a great catch 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: passing back, but I almost wonder if so much of 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: it has to do with the Falcons really improved offensive line, 123 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like the Cowboys situation where you know, 124 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Demarca Murray can leave and and Darren McFadden steps in 125 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and ends up being a great running back. You know, 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: in the weeks that he was the running back for 127 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I wonder if Coleman could step in and 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: maybe do an even better job than Freeman be the 129 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: running back one this year. I mean, the thought is 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: that he's going to be better between the tackles right 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: out of the gate, and that is a big you know, 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, feather in his cat per se. You know. Well, 133 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: speaking of the Falcons, Matt Ryan said they're going to 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: score thirty points per game this year? Is this just 135 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: QB speaker? Does he really believe it? I mean, he 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: has to believe it. He has to want that, right. 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's going to happen. They'll 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: probably have some thirty point games, but who's catching passes 139 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: there besides Julio Jones. I mean, I don't hate Mohammedson, 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: you I don't want hate Jacob Tammy, but that's just 141 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: not the type of offense that's built to score thirty 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: a game. It's not pretty. Yeah, yeah, I'm in agreement here. 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this is realistic. Matt Ryan has always 144 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: had plenty of hype behind him, and now I feel 145 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: like it's he's post hype. You know, the Falcons offense 146 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: might be improved this year. I mean, remember they started 147 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: six and oh last year and then they ran into 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: some injuries and DeVante Freeman went cold. But I think 149 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: this Falcons offense does have a lot of potential. Now 150 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: saying thirty points per game or the top offense in football, 151 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that's really stretching it. Yeah, I do think Matt Ryan's 152 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: very undervalued from a fantasy's perspective. We had JJ zachareson 153 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: on our podcast a while back talking two quarterback leagues 154 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: for the most part, but we both identified Matt Ryan 155 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: for him as like a good late round QB target 156 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: and for us as a good kind of solid QB 157 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: two for two quarterback leagues. I think he's being a 158 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: little undervalued just based on the bad year he had 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Yeah, so, Coach Peterson of the Eagles 160 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: said zach Ertz is going to be a huge weapon 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: for them in the red zone. Do you think he 162 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: takes a big leap this season. No, I don't sure 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: an answer. I think the earth type is a little 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: is going a little too far. I mean they want 165 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to use him more in the red zone, that's great. 166 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: How often are they going to be in the red zone? 167 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: No one has any idea that offense could be a 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: complete train rerecord. We don't know yet. I like that 169 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: he is like one of those bigger receivers that they 170 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: can use in those packages. But you know, Jordan Matthews 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: is pretty big too, Like they're going to have a 172 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: lot of opportunity to throw to other people. And whenever 173 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: I hear a coach say this this early in the preseason, 174 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: it's like, why would they reveal this sort of information 175 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: at all? If they really want to use him around 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: the red zone, wouldn't they want it to be a 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: surprise when they want him to come out of nowhere, 178 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: And instead they're just telegraphing this plan quote unquote to 179 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: say that, oh, yeah, we're gonna use arts down there, 180 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: so make sure you cover earths when we get to 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: the goal line. It all sounds like BS to me. Yeah, 182 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm not buying it either. I think it's one of 183 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: these cases where or it's finished the game with finished 184 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: the season last year with three really strong games, and 185 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: everyone thinks, well, if he just continues that, but you know, 186 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: he didn't do it all of last season. There's a 187 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: and he didn't do it, and they've got a quarterback battle. 188 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's even gonna take one step forward, 189 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: let alone a giant leap. Yeah, that offense is kind 190 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: of a stay away from me. I just think in general, 191 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: with Arts, it's more an issue of the fact the 192 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: tight end is so deep. I don't want to pay 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: tight end ten prices for him when I could wait, 194 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, two more rounds and get the tight end fifteen. 195 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: And I really don't feel like I lose that much 196 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: value in the draft when I do that. One guy 197 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: that I'm really buying into the height four is Sammy Coats, 198 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: and he's continuing a great offseason here for the Steelers. 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to finish up the season 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: second on Steelers for targets. That's a really good question, 201 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: and I want to say yes, but I have a 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: feeling this is going to become one of those New Orleans, 203 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: New England type of offenses where you know there are 204 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: one or two guys that get most of the targets, 205 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the guys kind of piecemeal 206 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: the rest together. So Sammy Coats could get the second 207 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: most targets, but it won't be anywhere close to what 208 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is getting, and it should be relatively close 209 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: to what you know, Ladarius Green, Marcus Wheaton and everyone 210 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: else is getting. Like I like Coats a lot. I'm 211 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: with you. I think that he's definitely the highest upside 212 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: play of all those guys. I mean, Ladarius Green, you know, 213 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: plays the different positions. That's a different story, but I 214 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: do think Coates is the best value of those non 215 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: Antonio receivers in Pittsburgh. That's a good way to put it. 216 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I love his value. I'm taking him in virtually every draft, 217 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: and you may see that tonight in the next segment 218 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: coming up, which we'll get to here in a second. 219 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: But first, I've always been so high on Christine Michael 220 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and everyone else. Yeah, out with the Seattle Seahawks. Last year. 221 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: When the Cowboys picked him up, I was so excited. 222 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you just look at the guy. He looks 223 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: like a Hall of Famer. He's one of the most 224 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: athletic big backs in football, and apparently the Seahawks have 225 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: been really impressed with him so far. With the two 226 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: top backs they're battling injuries that they're bouncing back from. 227 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Is it feasible that Michael could sneak in and steal 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: the job? Is it feasible? Yes? But I mean we've 229 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: heard this story so many times before, I know, and 230 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: we keep on going back. It's so weird, Like usually 231 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: if a guy burns the fantasy community once, you know, 232 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: some people will forgive him. But when when you've burned 233 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: the fantasy community as many times as Christine Michael has, 234 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody's still It's like just to 235 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: be contrarian more than anything else. It feels like that 236 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: backfield is still super crowded. They have a lot. I mean, 237 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: there are injuries to some of the guys like Rawls 238 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: and oh, who's the other guy who's injured right now? 239 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: Help me out that rookie what's his name? Procis are 240 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: callus y? Yeah, yeah, Procis. They do have injuries to 241 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: Rawls and pro Size, but Alex Collins is there too. 242 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: It just feels like the timeshare waiting to happen. I 243 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: think that, you know, the price was low enough before 244 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: on Christine Michael, but now that he's getting, you know, 245 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: this hype in the news that he might break out again, 246 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: then his price is probably gonna go up too high, 247 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: to a point ride I don't want to take him. 248 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: So the word out of New Orleans is that Michael Thomas, 249 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the rookie wide receiver, is a freak of nature. Do 250 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: you see him surpassing Corey Coleman and Sterling Shepherd and 251 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: all those other guys as the rookie white out of 252 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: the year. I don't. And this is similar to what 253 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: we talked about was with Coats earlier in that yeah, 254 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: there are just too many receivers there and not just 255 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: too many receivers that that offense is built to spread 256 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: the ball around with the Saints and Drew Brees doesn't 257 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: tend to play favorites. He just finds the open guy. 258 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: And if that guy happens to Michael Thomas for a game, great, 259 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be really hard to predict those weeks. 260 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: He makes them a good best ball play, but I 261 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: don't really like him for a weekly fantasy. He's one 262 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: of these players that you know, Tristan Cockroff of VSPN. 263 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: He puts together this list of studs, stiffs, and start 264 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: worthy players, and I feel like Michael Thomas is going 265 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: to be one of those guys. Sure, he's gonna have 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: two or three stud weeks and so his end of 267 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: the season stats might wind up pretty good, but for 268 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: the most part, he's going to be a stiff. He's 269 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: only going to get a couple of receptions, a couple 270 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: of yards, maybe a touchdown here and there. But the 271 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: way Drew Brees spreads the ball around, I'm keeping Michael 272 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: Thomas off my teams because I don't trust to start him. 273 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the upside is there. I just think we're 274 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: seeing the hype for Thomas, but we're also seeing the 275 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: hype for Willie Sneed and for Kobe Fleiner. It just 276 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: can't work out for all those guys. Some of them 277 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: are gonna have to be bus and for the most part, 278 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: when you're trying to project that stuff, it definitely pays 279 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: to bet against the rookies because there's a steep learning 280 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: curve when you entered the NFL and he's going to 281 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: have to deal with that, and that's a complicated offense too. 282 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: And finally, Andre Johnson was signed by the Titans. He 283 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: was you know, he was a top forty pre draft 284 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: prospect last year, but this year it's a totally different story. 285 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: Is there any chance he's even gonna be Fantasy relevant 286 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: with all those wideouts in Tennessee. I don't think so. 287 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I thought he looked washed up two years ago, and 288 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: then last year just proved it to me. I want 289 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: no part of Andre Johnson. I think maybe from like 290 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a coaching perspective, this helps the other Titans receivers, but 291 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: if he's siphoning any number of targets, it just hurts everybody, 292 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: primarily you know, the big middle of the field, guys 293 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: like DGB. Yeah, DGB, Richard Matthews, who I mentioned last week. 294 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm really high on to Lanny Walker broke out and 295 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: was spectacular last year. I don't think there's any room 296 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: for Andrew Johnson to get targets. Yeah, it feels like 297 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: more of an organizational move just to kind of have 298 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: some like a a veteran there to help the younger 299 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: guys along. Okay, well, now we're onto my favorite tool 300 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: on the Fantasy pros site. In fact, I always dreamed 301 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: for a tool like this and ended up finding Fantasy 302 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Pros because of this. The rest is history obviously, because 303 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: here I am doing the Fantasy Pros podcast and the 304 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: tool is Draft Wizard. If you haven't used it, please 305 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: pause the show after I give the breakdown and hop 306 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: on over and do the segment with us. It's gonna 307 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: be a blast. You guys can compete against us. Greg 308 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: and I what we're gonna do. We're gonna go through 309 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: a twelve team, twelve round mock draft and it's gonna 310 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: be lightning quick. It's not gonna be like over on ESPN, 311 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: where you've got those turds you're drafting against in the 312 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: mock drafts that takes teams first overall, yeah, and eleven 313 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: year olds at talk trash with every pick. Instead, we're 314 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: gonna be drafting against our pool of over one hundred experts, 315 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: and Greg and I are both going to start with 316 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: a second pick. We're going twelve teams and our positions 317 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: are going to be one QB, two running backs, three 318 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: wide receivers, one tight end, one flex, and four bench. 319 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: And at the end of the draft, Wizard is going 320 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: to grade out our teams and the win it's gonna 321 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: be the Peyton Manning and Fantasy football, while the loser 322 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: is gonna be Ryan Leaf. Are you ready to go? Greg? 323 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can handle that Ryan Leaf label, 324 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna have to try the hardest here. All right, Well, 325 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: are you all set up with the positions here? I 326 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: believe so, yes, Right, let's jump into it. What are 327 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: you looking at for your first pick here? Well, let's 328 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: see running back, wide receiver, tight end. That was what 329 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I used it. It was already there, so that's why 330 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: I used it. All right, So it looks like Julio 331 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Jones went first. Overall, I'm gonna take Antonio Brown. Yeah, 332 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: that that seems like a gimme. I can't believe Antonio 333 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Brown fell to you. I've never seen that before. Fell 334 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: one spot. I've seen it. I mean, it happens. I've 335 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: done a bunch of practices because I don't want to 336 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: be Ryan Leaf, and I've never seen Antonio Brown not go. Well, 337 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: he went in my draft, and I'm taking Julio Jones. 338 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: But I also really like DeAndre Hopkins over Odell Beckham Junior. 339 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: So I'm taking Julio Jones. He's my number two pick. 340 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: So here we go on to the second round. It 341 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: looks like Chalk was pretty much taken here. My top 342 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: option is mark Ingram, Doug Baldwin, Brandon Marshall. But what 343 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is I'm going to go over to 344 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: our pick predictor and that's I believe, one of the 345 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: premium features that we have here, and it's gonna tell 346 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: me Keenan Allen is my top guy. I only have 347 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: a fifty percent chance that he's gonna make it back 348 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: around to me with my next pick, so I'm gonna 349 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: make sure and add Keenan Allen to make sure he 350 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get picked. Who are you taking here in the 351 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: second round, I'm looking at a similar board. Keenan Allen, 352 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall, Eddie Lacy, and CJ. Anderson are the top 353 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: of the running back ranks. So with that, I'm actually 354 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna follow you here. I'm gonna take Keenan Allen as well. Excellent. Well, 355 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall did fall to me, and I really like 356 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall. I mean, if you take a lot of 357 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: people think he's over the hill, but if you take 358 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: out his twenty fourteen his season last year with fifteen 359 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: hundred yards and one hundred nine receptions. That's right in 360 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: place with what he's done for his career. So I'm 361 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: sure he was just dealing with some injury that he 362 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: didn't reveal. But Brandon Marshall, he's the same same old 363 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: dog that he has been in the past, and there's 364 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: a reason he just challenged Antonio Brown for his car. 365 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw that, but he said, 366 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, if I beat you this season, I want you. 367 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I want your sweet ride, and if you beat me, 368 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: you can have my ride. So he's real confident. I'm 369 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: taking Brandon Marshall, but I also really like Sammy Watkins 370 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: and it's very unlikely he's not gonna make it to me. 371 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: But bear in mind, I do love Sammy Watkins. The 372 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: injury concerns with Sammy Watkins or an issue for me. 373 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm the reports have been positive, but I do not 374 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: trust him to start the season healthy. He's available for 375 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: me here too, along with Marshall, but I'm gonna go 376 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: a different round. I'm gonna take to Marius Thomas. I 377 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: think that you know, the quarterback situation there can't be 378 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot worse than it was last year good 379 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: and that leaves us with a pretty good floor for 380 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Da Marius. In my opinion, I'm really not liking what 381 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: I see here. In round four, I've got Latagius Murray 382 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: at the top, him on board, and I'm not so 383 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: sure if he's gonna keep getting carries. He just doesn't 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: seem like a workhorse type of guy. Then I've got 385 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: the qbs, Russell Wilson Andrew Luck. I've got Drew Brees, 386 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: a couple of spots down my top wide receivers, Eric Decker. 387 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do here is I'm this is weird 388 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: for me. I've never drafted Russell Wilson in this spot, 389 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: but I'm going to draft Russell Wilson. And the reason 390 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: why there's only been one player that's been a top 391 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: five Fantasy quarterback each of the past two seasons, and 392 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: it's Russell Wilson. In fact, he was Top three each 393 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: of the last two seasons. He's still young enough that 394 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: he might get better. I think that they've improved themselves 395 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, which is really gonna help him, 396 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna keep running the ball. So I'm taking 397 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson here. Who do you have? Well? I like 398 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: the Wilson pick. I mean, this is too early for 399 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: me to jump on quarterback, but Wilson is not a 400 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: bad option if you're in this spot, if you go 401 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: over to two qbs. There's been There was a really 402 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: good profile on him by Anthony Emiko. I encourage you 403 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: all to check that out. I'm kind of stuck here 404 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: wishing i'd take a running back with one of my 405 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: first three picks. They'd dried up a little faster than 406 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I thought. I'm probably gonna keep waiting there, but you know, 407 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot else to do. I 408 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: think I could jump on a wide receiver, and that's 409 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna That's what I'm gonna do here. I'm 410 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: going to take Dante Moncrief. He's getting hyped up and 411 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm buying. I think that the Bolts are gonna throw 412 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: a lot this season. I think that Andrew Luck's going 413 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: to have a great year and Moncrief is going to 414 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: be instrumental in that. So he's who I'm taking. I'm 415 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: in the same boat as you. I took three wide 416 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: receivers to start and then Russell Wilson, So I need 417 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: a running back and I need one bad I don't 418 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: like Jeremy Hill because I think Giovanni Bernard is just 419 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: as talented and they're going to keep sharing. I'm not 420 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: a big believer in Jonathan Stewart. He's just getting old. 421 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna keep it up. And I 422 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: don't trust any Patriots running back, so I'm avoiding Dean 423 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Lewis now. I kind of want to reach for Ryan Matthews, 424 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: and I really would like to reach for Delanney Walker 425 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: because Draft Wizard says I'm probably not going to get 426 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: him on the way back around, but I really need 427 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: a running back this time around, so I'm just gonna 428 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: take Ryan Matthews. And I do like Ryan Matthews, but 429 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't like his value here that much. I mean, 430 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you look at what he did in yards per carry 431 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: last year, and he was very good, but you know 432 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: he has dealt with three concussions, So I've got my 433 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: concerns about Matthews. Who are you taking here? I like 434 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: the Matthews calliff only because the volume is probably pretty 435 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: guaranteed for him, at least to start the year. I'm 436 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: I kind of have to take a running back at 437 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: this point, and for me, that is going to be 438 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart. I feel like he's the safest of the 439 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: guys who was available for me. The other guys are 440 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: similar to who you were looking at, Jeremy Hill, Dion Lewis. 441 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not in love with this pick just I mean, 442 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: for the same reasons you didn't like yours. But I 443 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: kind of just want a safe, steady floor and Stewart 444 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: provides that. Yes, Stewart definitely does. Pro Football Focus in fact, 445 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: said he was one of the top three running backs 446 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: in football last year in terms of what he accomplished 447 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: on the field separate from his teammates. That's really impressive, 448 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: and you know, unless he takes a big step backwards, 449 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: he could be in line for another very good season. 450 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Here at the end of the sixth round, I'm faced 451 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: with a couple of running backs. I don't like Giovanni Bernard, 452 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, but you really like Duke Johnson. I was 453 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: hoping he would make it here back for me. Apparently 454 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: he's going to be the workhorse. He was one of 455 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: the top guys in targets last year out of the backfield, 456 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: and I'm a huge fan of Duke Johnson this year, 457 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: so I'm adding him as my second running back. Who 458 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: do you have, Greg, Yeah, I'm looking to Duke Johnson 459 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: as well, but I'm going to take another pass catching 460 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: running back and that's one that you mentioned earlier. G 461 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: of Annie Bernard. I think that he is the more 462 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: valuable running back in that Bengals backfield, and I think 463 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: he's going to have a great year with a lot 464 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: of upside in case, you know, Hill doesn't perform well 465 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: or he gets injured, tons of upside there if Hill 466 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: gets hurt, Bernard is still there for me. But there's 467 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: one guy that I really want to add, and he's 468 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: gonna be my flex player. That's Danny Woodhead. And the 469 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: reason I like Danny Woodhead is because I really trust 470 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: Mike Clay, who's now with ESPN. He used to be 471 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. And one of the great things you 472 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: can do on Fantasy pros is you can go look 473 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: at one hundred and forty experts or some number around there. 474 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: It keeps growing every week. You can look at one 475 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: hundred and forty experts and see who each of them 476 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: likes more than the others. Mike really likes Danny Woodhead 477 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: this year, and so because of that, I trust him. 478 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I liked Danny Woodhead. He's done great in our accuracy 479 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: competition so far. Yeah, Mike really knows his stuff. So 480 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty full in terms of my roster this point. 481 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: I have both running backs, I have four wide receivers, 482 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: which covers my flex so I only have QB and 483 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: tight end to fill out. But I do like to 484 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: wait on those positions, so I'm gonna start to build 485 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: some depth here and I am going to take a 486 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: flyer on a mere Abdullah. I don't know if I 487 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: fully trust that Lions backfield, but as my first bench 488 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: running back, I like the upside he provides. He was 489 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: a pretty well hyped prospect coming out of college, and 490 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance he delivers on that in 491 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: year two. I mentioned last week, I'm not so sure 492 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: about Abdullah. I think Zack Zenner is gonna end up 493 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: getting a lot of carries. But if Abdullah does prove 494 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: to be a three down back, he has loads of potential. 495 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he could be a first round pick this 496 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: time next year if if he ends up getting the carries. Yeah. 497 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: I think the real issue is that that offense may 498 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: not take without Calvin Johnson, and that's my primary considered point. Yeah, 499 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: but at this stage in the draft, that is not 500 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: a bad pick. I mean, this is pretty late to 501 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: get amer Abdula. He wasn't there for me now here. 502 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: I am at the end of round date and I 503 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady sitting there on the board, But I 504 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: don't like to get my backup QB this late because 505 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston Kirk cousins are going to be there later 506 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: and I'm fond of them this year. So I'm looking 507 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: at Charles Simms, who when he got the ball last year, 508 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: he was amazing. If Doug Martin goes down, he's gonna 509 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: be great. And if Doug Martin doesn't go down, Charles 510 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: sins is still gonna catch a lot of passes out 511 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: of the backfield. But the guy I'm going with, I'm 512 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: so afraid he's gonna be taken. And you guys all 513 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: know he's my guy, Sterling Shepherd of the New York Giants. 514 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm adding Shepherd before someone else grabs him, fairy nice. 515 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: I like Shepherd a lot this year too. I've actually 516 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: drafted him on many a dynasty roster. I'm looking at 517 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: a guy who I'm curious on your thoughts on Bobby. 518 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: That's Josh Gordon. He's the top of the wide receiver 519 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: ringings for me, and I'm not really sold on him 520 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: coming off of that, you know, very long suspension and 521 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: layoff from playing football, and we know that he's going 522 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: to miss the first four games, so I think there's 523 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: a lot of a risk there to take him. I 524 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: think that, you know, as my first bench wide receiver. 525 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: It's not a terrible risk at this point in the draft. 526 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: But where do you fall on Gordon? You know, I 527 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: look at what Gordon did in twenty fourteen when he 528 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: played just five games, and he wasn't all that great. 529 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: He only had three hundred and three yards twenty four receptions, 530 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown, And so I feel like we're 531 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: not going to see the same Josh Gordon that put 532 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: up sixteen hundred yards and eighty seven receptions in twenty thirteen. 533 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, he's still twenty five, so 534 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: we could get a lot better. But something has changed 535 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: about Josh Gordon. And I'm not saying he's going to 536 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: be as bad as sixty sixty receiving yards per game, 537 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's going to be the same 538 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: guy with that being said, at this point in the draft, 539 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: if he does play twelve games, he's a great value. 540 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: But the fact that the risk is there that he 541 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: might not play the games, I'm probably gonna avoid him 542 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: with how high he's gonna be drafted. Yeah, looking at 543 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the other wide receivers who are available right now for me, though, 544 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't really see all these guys at risk, is 545 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. And of course, at this point, 546 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: you know I might. At this point in the draft, 547 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: I think you can really start to gamble on those 548 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: high risks, high upside plays. So I'm going to take 549 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: him here and just see how the roster turns out. 550 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a mock draft. That's a 551 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: good point. I take my mock draft really seriously though, 552 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: especially when Ryan leaves on the table. Sure, but I 553 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: mean you do have to experiment with this stuff over time. 554 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this is how you figure out whether or 555 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: not these strategies work. And that's what makes a tool 556 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: like this so useful. With my ninth round pick, Tom 557 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Brady's still staring me in the face, but Draft Wizards 558 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: telling me that Kirk Cousins is probably still gonna be 559 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: there for me. So I'm gonna wait on him, and 560 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Charles Sims, but I'm gonna go with 561 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Arian Foster because i think he's gonna win that job 562 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: there in Miami and the three games that he started 563 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: last year, he had over a hundred yards from scrimmage 564 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: from all three of those games. I'm gonna take a 565 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: chance on him, hoping maybe he's healthy and if he is, 566 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: he could be an RB one again this year. Yeah, 567 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Foster has a lot in common with that 568 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon pick I just made where you know, the 569 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: upside is certainly there. We've seen what he can do 570 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: when he's at the peak of his powers. I really 571 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: do think that's still Jhi E's backfield for now. I 572 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: think it's going to be turned out to be more 573 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: of a time share. But again, at this point in 574 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: the draft, yeah, take a shot on that upside. Along 575 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: those same lines, I'm gonna take Thiangelo Williams here only 576 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: because we know he's going to start the first few 577 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: games and we saw what he could do in that 578 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh offense last season. That's right. Yeah, And you know, 579 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: if you look at the top running backs, especially those 580 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: that have a bunch of carries to their name, like 581 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: Leveon Bell, about thirty percent of them face injuries at 582 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: some point in the season for you know, four or six, 583 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: fifteen games even, And that could very well happen with 584 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: Levon Bell. And if it does, you know you've got 585 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: a great running back on your hands with the Angela Williams. 586 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: So I love that pick. Yeah. Thanks. Now I'm looking 587 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: at my roster here and I still don't have a 588 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: tight end. But Tom Brady is still there. How he's 589 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: he was long gone in my Yeah, I mean, this 590 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: isn't fair at all. You rigged it. Well, you got 591 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown at number two. I will admit that. Well, here, 592 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: I am pick one nineteen. Tom Brady's ECR is eighty nine, 593 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: and I'm taking him. I love it. That is a 594 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: smoking deal. The important thing to understand with a guy 595 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: like Brady is even though we know he's suspended, we 596 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: also know that we have to replace him for those 597 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: first few games, and you already have another quarterback to 598 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: do that. Even if Brady was your first quarterback drafted 599 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: at this point in the draft, you could still pick 600 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: up you know, Kirk Cousins of Tony Romo and Tyrod Taylor, 601 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: a Jameis Winston, someone else to fill in for those 602 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: first few weeks. And yeah, there's really no risk to 603 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: taking Brady in a one quarterback league. It gets a 604 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: little trickier in one of our two quarterback leagues. Yeah, 605 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: but even still, like you could always just draft Jimmy 606 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Garoppolo if you wanted to have somebody to cover those 607 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: first four weeks. And I like their matchups in those 608 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: first four weeks, so Garoppolo is not a bad option 609 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. I think they've got a 610 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: couple of tough ones, but I think one of them 611 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: was against Houston, and that doesn't look quite as imposing 612 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: with JJ Watt potentially on the shelf or not one 613 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: hundred percent? So here are you taking here in round eleven? Greg, So, 614 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: like you, I don't have a tight end. I also 615 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. So it's on to one of 616 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: those two starter positions or my final bench spot. I 617 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: am going to jump on the quarterback train here. I'll 618 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: take Tony Romo. He's a guy who I think is 619 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: severely underrated after a down twenty fifteen. I love that 620 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: he gets to throw it to Dez I think that 621 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: that offense is going to be a lot better with 622 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliot in the backfield. There's there's a lot to 623 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: like about Romo. It's it's easy to forget how good 624 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: he was just because he was, you know, not on 625 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: the field last year. You know, when they had that 626 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: great offensive line going with DeMarco Murray running for all 627 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: those yards, Tony Romo had a career year. And now 628 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: that they have a real good back in Ezekiel Elliot, 629 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: at least I think he's really good, Romo could bounce 630 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: right back to that standard. Yep, I agree, all right. 631 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: In round eleven here, I need a tight end. In fact, 632 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: for my last two picks, I'm going to take a 633 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: tight end, and I really like Andrew Luck thrown to 634 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen, but I'm gonna go ahead and take Jimmy Graham, 635 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know if Russell Wilson is 636 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: going to throw a lot of balls to Jimmy Graham, 637 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: but just knowing how good he is and hoping his 638 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: shoulder holds up, I'm going to take Graham and then 639 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: going to follow him up with another high upside tight 640 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: end in the next round. Okay, as long as you're 641 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: drafting another tight end to play for you while while 642 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham is writing the bench injured, you'll be fine. 643 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, Graham might not play at all this year, 644 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: and even if he does, it might not be till 645 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: halfway through the season. He's a guy I'm avoiding at 646 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: all costs. And I like you. I like Dwyne Allen. 647 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: He's the top ranked tight end for me, but I 648 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: did draft Dante Moncrief a little bit earlier, and I 649 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: don't tend to like stacking receivers on the same team, 650 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to pass on tight end one 651 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: more time. I'll use my last pick on a tight end, 652 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take Devin Funch's I think that there's 653 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: a real chance that he could surpass Kelvin Benjamin as 654 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: the wide receiver one there for Cam Newton. I don't 655 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: think it's a high likelihood, but at this point in 656 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: the draft, it's worth the gamble. And for me, with 657 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: my final pick, Dwayne Allen is still there, so I'm 658 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: gonna play the safe. I'm gonna play it safe and 659 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: take Dwayne Allen here to round out my team. Yeah, 660 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: and I've got my tight end spot to Phil, I'm 661 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: gonna take Martellis Bennett. I really like to fit with 662 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: him in New England, and I think, you know, his 663 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: upside is a little bit capped based on the fact 664 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: that Gronkowski is there. But we know that Gronk isn't 665 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: necessarily the picture of health and that the Patriots like to, 666 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, kind of rain him in sometimes, and I 667 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: think that's going to open up targets for Martella's Bennett. 668 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw what Aaron Hernandez did even when 669 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: Gronk was there, so the Patriots can definitely use two 670 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: tight ends. And don't forget Martella's Bennett was top five 671 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: in eastr last year for tight ends. Yeah. I like 672 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: Martella's Bennett a lot this year. The Draft Wizard, on 673 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: the other hand, does not like my draft. It gave 674 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: me a D plus. Oh well, we can look at 675 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: some of the details of that. I am Peyton Manning, 676 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and I know it's not fair because they work at 677 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Fancy Pro so I've had a lot of practice with this. 678 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: But I got an eighty five out of one hundred 679 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: and I got a B. So let's see where it 680 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: projects our standings here. It has me here in third 681 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: place with seven hundred and ten points first place as 682 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: seven fifty eight, so I'm not too far behind. They 683 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: really like my bench, but they're not so fond of 684 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: my starters. How about you, Greg, same thing. I got 685 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: a sixty nine out of a hundred Q of the 686 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Boorad Voice. I got a very nice bench score one 687 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: hundred forty four and overall eighth, and my starters are 688 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: dead last in terms of these rankings. Well, you know, 689 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: if you don't take any chances in Draft Wizard, you're 690 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: you're not going to find that sleeper. So a D 691 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: plus does not mean the end of the world. If 692 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: you're doing this and it gives you a DP plus, 693 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean too much. But bear in mind that 694 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: our experts rankings do drive these projections, so Draft Wizard 695 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: can really help prepare you for your draft. And if 696 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: you want to use some of these tabs, I'll explain 697 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: them to You've got Draft Analysis here and you can 698 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: find that highlight tab where it's gonna highlight steals value 699 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: picks and it's telling me I only had one value 700 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: pick and that was Duayne Allen. It was really nice 701 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: that he dropped me. I'm shocked. It's not saying Tom 702 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: Brady was a value pick because that I think that 703 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: that was a steal. Unbelievable. Actually, you know what, it 704 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: says steel two plus rounds. So draft Wizards drive on 705 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: the money there. It tells you what reaches you had, 706 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: and then it gives you a team analysis here, and 707 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: so it's telling me right now I have the number 708 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: one wide receivers in the league, number one bench in 709 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: the league. Running backs though I'm number eleven and tight 710 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: ends number twelve, So not so hot there. Hopefully Draft 711 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: Wizard isn't right because I think I drafted a very 712 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: good team. But you know, don't we all? Yeah, this 713 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: actually really likes my wide receivers along with my bench 714 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: number one in both those categories, and admittedly I waited 715 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: on tight end and quarterbacks, so it projects me as 716 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: the you know, the worst team in those regards. But 717 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly where I want to be. I want to 718 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: use the waiver wire as my bench and stream those 719 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: positions until I find a starter who who's really going 720 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: to come through for me? Yeah, I really do like 721 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: that strategy. I'm probably gonna be waiting on quarterbacks this year, 722 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: taking Russell Wilson's kind of a fluke for me, but 723 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean you got him in a good spot, that's 724 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy with getting Russell Wilson 725 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady definitely not complain about that. So now 726 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: we're before we move on to our last segment, I 727 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: want to do some trivia with you. I've got two 728 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: questions for you, and you can redeem the title of 729 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: being Peyton Manning. If you get both of these right, 730 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: you can trade with me. I'll be Ryan Leaf and 731 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: you can be Peyton Manning. I don't know. I do 732 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: like living in San Diego. Well, last season, Saint Louis 733 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: was dead last with fifty seven point five place per game. 734 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Which team had the highest tempo in the league with 735 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: a whopping sixty nine point nine place per game? Was 736 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: it the Eagles, the Texans, the Saints or the Panthers. 737 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: I think it was the Texans, wasn't it. That's right, 738 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: it was the Texans. I couldn't believe this one. I 739 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: saw it, Bill O'Brien, Yeah, that's right. The tempo, you know, 740 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: when they were playing for behind a lot, so they 741 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: did throw the ball a lot and mostly all those 742 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: were garbage targets to DeAndre Hopkins, but still I was 743 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: really surprised by that with some of these other up 744 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: tempo teams in the league. As fantasy owners, we don't 745 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: care how those targets come as long as they're coming. 746 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: Speaking of targets, all four of these guys had a 747 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of targets last season when they were playing. But 748 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: which of them had the highest catch rate in football 749 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: last year? Was it Keenan Allen, Doug Baldwin, Jamison Crowder, 750 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: or Larry Fitzgerald. That's tough. I knew the Bill O'Brien 751 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: Texans one. I do not know this. I will go 752 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: out on a limb and guess Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen 753 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: is a very good guest. He's number two. In fact, 754 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: all these guys are behind running backs. A bunch of 755 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: running backs had higher catch rates than that. But the 756 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: number one guy, believe it or not, was the rookie 757 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder. He had sixty two receptions last year as 758 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: a rookie, and he's in a crowded He's in a 759 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: crowded receiver corps there for the Redskins. But I really 760 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: like Jamison Crowder's skill set. He was great at Duke 761 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: and look, he's tiny, but he's one of those guys 762 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: that finds a seam and he has great hands. I 763 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: think Crowder is going to be an excellent fantasy wide 764 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: receiver in a couple of years, and this year. I 765 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: love where he's going in drafts. I'm getting him every 766 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: single one of my teams. It's gonna have to be 767 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: in a different life. There are just too many wide 768 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: receivers there in Washington for him to, I think, really 769 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: get much of a target share. All right, Well, let's 770 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: go on over to the final segment. We're gonna be 771 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: talking about some bounce back candidates and some regression candidates. 772 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: So tell me of these two quarterbacks, which one's most 773 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: likely to have the best bounce back? Andrew Luck or 774 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, if you check out my rankings either 775 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: on two qbs dot com or on Fantasy Pros, you 776 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: will see that I have Luck ranked as my number 777 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: one quarterback. So he's the answer for me. I talked 778 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, you know, regarding Dante Moncrief and 779 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen. How I think that that offense is, you know, 780 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: really set up for a good year. I think they're 781 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: built a throw I don't really trust frank Or to 782 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: be able to carry a heavy load anymore. I think 783 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna chuck it a lot, and Luck's the guy 784 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: for me. There's also just more room to improve versus 785 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: expectation for him than with Rogers. I think Rogers is 786 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: going to be a top five QB as usual, but 787 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Luck's the guy for me. Now, about these running backs 788 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: who had rough years last year, DeMarco Murray, Eddie Lacy, 789 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill, and cg Anderson, which one do you like 790 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: the best? It's a tough question. I think Lacey's probably 791 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: set up for the best season, if only because he 792 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: plays in the best offense there. But I feel like 793 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: cg Anderson is the best value of the four. I 794 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: was in on him last year, and I think you know, 795 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: Turf Tooe hindered his early season production. Once he's started 796 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: to get healthy towards the end of the year and 797 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, we saw that what he could really do. 798 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: And you know, Kubiak's gonna want to run with Mark 799 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: Sanchez and Paxton Lanchard Trevor Simeon as his quarterbacks, and 800 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: I think that their defense will allow them to do 801 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: that to run a fair amount, and I think that 802 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: that's going to bode well for z J. Anderson. You know, 803 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: if it weren't for Giovanni bernar And I would say 804 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill and a heartbeat. In fact, if it weren't 805 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: for Bernard and them sharing all those carries in Cincinnati, 806 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: I think Hill would be a first round running back again. 807 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: But I'm going with Eddie Lacy just because they're not 808 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to stack the box against him. 809 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: He is really talented. There's a reason he was picked 810 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: in the top five last year. If he can keep 811 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: the weight off, he's the guy. Do you buy this, 812 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, him getting in shape narrative? That's a tough 813 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: question because who knows. I mean, you've seen the photos, right, 814 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen social media. He looks good. Like 815 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: the question is is how much is that going to 816 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 1: actually translate to football production. We don't really know for sure, 817 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: but I'm buying it. Like like I said, I think 818 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: Lacey is probably the best of this group. He's the 819 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: guy I have ranked the highest. But you know, maybe 820 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: he just isn't that good a football. I mean, we've 821 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: seen him deliver in the past, though, that's that's what 822 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: gives me hope for the for this season. I think 823 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: he'll be good. But yeah, I'm I was just I 824 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: do like to kind of, you know, check the barometer 825 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: when when I talked to other analysts about this, like, well, 826 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: what what do you make of that lady situation? Because 827 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: it's very interesting. You know, he's still in the two 828 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: forties apparently, so that's that's not good. He's gonna have 829 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 1: to keep shedding off the weight. What do you think, 830 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: JP boy? I mean, I've been burned by I think 831 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: every one of those running backs over the over the years. Um, 832 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: we keep giving Christine Michael chances exactly. And I mean 833 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: I got burned by Jeremy Hill last year, Lacy the 834 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: year before. I got burned by C. G Anderson last year. Uh. 835 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to see how things shake out 836 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more in camp. I'd like to Marco 837 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: Murray a lot. The Titans offensive line probably isn't one 838 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: of the best, is it. It's definitely not, but it 839 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: is much improved center. And I mean I think I 840 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: go with Murray there. I like Marcus Mariota a lot, 841 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: but you'd think that they'd they'd try to he's still developing. 842 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: So let's hand the ball off to DeMarco Murray. No 843 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: concern about Derrick Henry there stealing carries? Sure, I mean 844 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: it's there, but you have to be concerned a little. Yeah, 845 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: I just boy, that's a really tough group. You have 846 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: a really good group there of whoka bounce back because 847 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm not totally confident. I'm not fond of any of 848 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: the four. Yeah, I'm not drafting any of them. I 849 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: don't think I am either. Oh see, I would definitely 850 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: draft Lacey and CJ. Anderson from this group, and I 851 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: think there's a point where I would draft Hill. I'm 852 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: not touching to Marco Murray with a ten foot pull. 853 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's move over to wide receivers, and we've 854 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: got another great group here. There's five of them, Jordy Nelson, 855 00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, Keenan, Allen, Alshon, Jeffrey and Kelvin Benjamin. Yeah. 856 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: I do not trust Jordy Nelson whatsoever. These concerns are 857 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: out about his knees are very troubling to me. And 858 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: we saw what happened to that offense when he wasn't there. 859 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if he can't play. That 860 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: doesn't bode well for anyone on the Packers. I mean, 861 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: I think they'll be fine in general, but they might 862 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: all be a little overvalued just based upon that, you know, 863 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: Packers offense mystique. If Nelson doesn't play. I really like 864 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: al Sean and I think that his volume could be 865 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: huge because I have a feeling the Bears are gonna 866 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 1: play from behind a lot. But he hasn't really proven 867 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: to me that he can stay healthy for full sixteen games. 868 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: So for me, it's des Bryant, like he's further removed 869 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: from injury. Romo was back talked about that earlier, and 870 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: somehow Romo was still underrated. I think that like we're 871 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: discounting Romo, we're also discounting Deaz like he was a 872 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: top three consensus wide receiver last season and we're only 873 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: a year removed from that. I think that his situation 874 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: is a lot like Julio Jones is, where he's, you know, 875 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: the one key target in a good offense. I just 876 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: think the Dallas's offense is actually better than atlant and 877 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: as the weapons around him are a little bit stronger, 878 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: it's des Bryant for me. Yeah, I think Brian's definitely 879 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: the best of the group. However, for the value I 880 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: already mentioned, I'm really fond of Keenan Allen, and the 881 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: experts or Fantasy pros are two ninety percent of our 882 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: experts say he should be drafted over his ADP right now. 883 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand Allan was shut down for the season, 884 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: there's concerns that it's going to continue, but I mean, 885 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: he was twenty four years old and was on pace 886 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: for a hundred and thirty four receptions before the injury. 887 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: You can't pass up on that upside, no, and that 888 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: offense is also built a throw kind of like the Colts, 889 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: as I discussed earlier. And if you follow Matt Harmon 890 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: in his reception perception, he's basically shown that Keenan Allen 891 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: can get open whenever he wants, and that's pretty awesome 892 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: when you have a good quarterback like Phil Rivers. I'd 893 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: still take Dez and Alshon over him, but I agree 894 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is probably a little undervalued and definitely deserves 895 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: a pretty high consideration in your drafts. Now, you mentioned 896 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: that you don't think Calvin Benjamin might end up being 897 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: the number one wider receiver there in Carolina Bay at 898 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Can you expound on that 899 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. I actually think that Benjamin probably will 900 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: be the number one ride receiver, but I think there's 901 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: enough of a chance that he won't be and that 902 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: Funch just surpasses him. I also just think that that 903 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers offense is going to regress a little bit, 904 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: just because they had such a good year last year 905 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: that that stuff tends to be difficult to repeat, especially 906 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: when you have that, you know, target on your back 907 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl contender. I think that Benjamin will 908 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: probably be fine, and I do like his touchdown upside. 909 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: I love those big body receivers. I like all the 910 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: guys on this list for that reason. I mean, Kiel 911 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: now Keenan Allen doesn't fit the profile, but you know, 912 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, he's very good anyway. But yeah, 913 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I think Benjamin will be fine. I would feel comfortable 914 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: drafting him around his ADP year a little bit lower. 915 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, Greg, Now let's go to the opposite end 916 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: of the spectrum. These are guys who broke out last 917 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: year and are probably due for some regression. But which 918 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: of them is going to regress the most between Blake Bortles, 919 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,479 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and Ryan Fitzpatrick this year. So you're saying 920 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't pick d all of the above. I definitely 921 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: think they're all going to regress. But which one's going 922 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: to be the worst? Yeah? For me, I think Bortles 923 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: is the obvious choice. You know, we've heard all the narratives, 924 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 1: right the defense is going to get better, the running 925 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: game is going to get better. But for me, it 926 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: really comes down to the fact that Bortles got away 927 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: with a lot of mistakes in twenty fifteen. More interceptions 928 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: leads to more early ending drives, and we already know 929 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: that his volume in the red zone is going to 930 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: go down. I am staying away from Bortles. I mean, 931 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a point where I would draft him, 932 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: but I'm going to let somebody else overpay because that's 933 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: just what happens after a guy has a career year 934 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: like that. I'm right with you with Bortles, you know, 935 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: I still I like Kirk Cousins a lot. He finished 936 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: the year is the best quarterback in football in terms 937 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: of fantasy at least, so I'm not sure he's going 938 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: to keep that up. In fact, I am certain he's 939 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: not going to keep that up, but I think he'll 940 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: probably beat top five or six this season. I really 941 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins maybe even to be better than he 942 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: was last year, but Blake Bortles is my guy for regression. 943 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: Like you said, Jaguars aren't going to be playing from 944 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: behind as much. They're not going to be throwing the ball. 945 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: The temple is not going to be as much. And really, 946 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: I think as he gets older, he's not going to 947 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: quite be the gun slinger that he was last season, 948 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: and so I don't think he's going to throw for 949 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: as many yards as many touchdowns. I think he's going 950 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: to learn to be more of a game manager, and 951 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: that's going to hurt him a little bit in fantasy. 952 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: Getting back to Cousins, his schedule in the second half 953 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: of last year when he put up those crazy stats, 954 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: was really soft. We've seen, you know, some people are 955 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: projecting that the Washington schedule is going to be pretty 956 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: easy this year as well. But that's something that we're 957 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: not very good at projecting year to year because defense 958 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: has changed so much and because injuries over the course 959 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: of the year can change, you know, what a team 960 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: looks like. I think that Cousins is another guy who 961 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: is a little overvalued, mostly just you know, based on 962 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: recency bias. We saw him be very good last year 963 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: and people want to draft him because of that. Yeah, 964 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: all right, in which of these running backs is going 965 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: to regress the most? Thomas Rawls, David Johnson, Davante Freeman, 966 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: and Danny Woodhen. This was an interesting list to me 967 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: because I actually like most of these guys. The one 968 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: guy I don't like, so it's a pretty easy response 969 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: for me is Thomas Rawls. It feels like a bit 970 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: of a cop out because of the injury concerns and 971 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: they credit backfield. Yeah, but I think he's the best choice. 972 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: I actually I love David Johnson. He's my number two 973 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: running back this year. DeVante Freeman, I think is going 974 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: to be fine, and Woodhead is just a really crucial 975 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: part of that offense. I don't think he's going to 976 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: go away either. There are so many varying opinions on 977 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: David Johnson. Some people like him as the number one 978 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: running back in football. I, in the other hand, am 979 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: not super fond. And the reason for that is and 980 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: the reason for that is you look at what c J. 981 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: Anderson did last year, and you mentioned the turf to 982 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: I understand that, but David Johnson was nowhere close to 983 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: as productive as C. J. Anderson. Yet still C J. 984 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: Anderson imploded. I don't know if we know who David 985 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: Johnson is. I mean, they've still got some talented running 986 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: backs in that Arizona backfield too, So I just think 987 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: David Johnson's being way overdrafted at this point. Sure, he 988 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: could end up being the best running back in football, 989 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: but I'm going to be a little bit skeptical until 990 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: I see it a little bit more. And I'm the 991 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: opposite with you on Thomas Rawls. I am getting Thomas 992 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: Rawls on as many teams as I can. Five point 993 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: one yards per carry last year, he should take over 994 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: as the lead back. I understand the injury concerns, but 995 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: in that system, and I know the Seahawks offensive line 996 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: isn't that great, but in that system, he had six 997 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,879 Speaker 1: games that he started for seven hundred and twelve rushing yards. 998 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: That's a great number. He could end up being one 999 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: of the top running backs in football this year and 1000 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: he's being drafted in the late fourth round. Yeah, for me, 1001 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: it's more of a look back to his actual skill set. 1002 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: Like Rowles was an undrafted guy, David Johnson had that pedigree. 1003 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 1: We saw him explosive from day one in the NFL. 1004 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: He was not getting a lot of touches in those 1005 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: early weeks, but the ones he got here, I think 1006 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: he took his first touch to the house for a 1007 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: touchdown in a super impressive fashion. Like the dude is 1008 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: an explosive athlete. And I couldn't disagree with you more 1009 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: on this, Bobby. I love David Johnson. I hate Thomas Rowle. 1010 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't hate Thomas Rawls, but I think that he's 1011 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: probably a little overvalued. You're definitely not drafting him the 1012 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: fourth round is yeah, fine if you believe in him, 1013 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not touching him there. I think if he 1014 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: fell to like the sixth of the seventhsider, it but 1015 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: there are too many other running backs that I like 1016 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: with more receiving upside. Now, how about the wide receivers. 1017 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: We've got Doug Baldwin who broke out last year and 1018 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: was awesome. Obviously, the touchdowns are going to regress. Alan Hearns, 1019 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson both for the Jaguars, and then Jarvis Landry, 1020 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: which one of those guys is going to regress the most. Yeah, 1021 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: we talked about Bordles regressing and that is inherently going 1022 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: to hurt Hearns and Alan Robinson. But I mean you 1023 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: mentioned this. The touchdowns that Baldwin posted last season are 1024 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: completely unsustainable. I think in the season's previous he scored 1025 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: like three, four and five touchdowns each year. There's no 1026 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: way he gets to double digits again in my mind, 1027 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: and for that reason, he's the guy for me. I 1028 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: think that Landry is an interesting one just because they 1029 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: have so many weapons there now that he could kind 1030 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: of get pushed out. But that rapport he has with 1031 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill isn't going anywhere. I mean, that's a really 1032 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: trusted relationship between a quarterback and a wide receiver, and 1033 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: that stuff tends to translate from year to year. I'm 1034 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: not too worried about Landry. I don't think he has 1035 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: a whole lot of touchdown upside. But in a PPR 1036 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: league is really good for me, it's Baldwin. Yeah, I 1037 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: mean those touchdowns are definitely going backwards. But where Doug 1038 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: Baldwin's being drafted, I feel like so many people are 1039 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: knowing that his touchdowns are going backwards that they're forgetting 1040 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: that the yards he put up in those final weeks 1041 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: of the season, starting weeks ten, listen to this one 1042 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: thirty four, sixty one, forty five, ninety four, eighty two, 1043 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,959 Speaker 1: one eighteen, forty five and forty six. I mean that's 1044 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: great production. Even without the touchdowns there. He was getting 1045 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot of receptions, and you know, he's still fairly young. 1046 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna keep getting better and I don't 1047 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: think that he was a fluke. I think that breakout 1048 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: is going to continue. And I'm trying to get Doug 1049 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: Baldwin on a lot of my teams this year. Yeah, 1050 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: I like owning him this year. I think he's going 1051 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: to be good. I just don't think he's going to 1052 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: be anywhere near as good as he was last year. 1053 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: If we're just talking about the amount of regression, I 1054 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: think that he's due for the most. Yeah, I think 1055 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 1: it's I think it's Alan Hearns. I don't think Alan 1056 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: Hurns is going to be especially impressive this year for fantasy. 1057 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's clearly a great asset, and Jarvis Langer was 1058 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: the most consistent receiver in football last year, so I 1059 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: actually think Jarvis Landry might not regress at all. I 1060 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: like him a lot. Yeah, I'm with you on Landry 1061 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: and Robinson. I think that Hearns is probably the second 1062 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: best choice, and it makes a lot of sense. It's 1063 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: intuitive that a guy who makes a lot of his 1064 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: bones on big plays could regrets. I mean we see 1065 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: that year to year with guys like Mike Wallace and 1066 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson. Like sometimes if they're getting, you know, just 1067 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: pass interference calls instead of making catches that can really 1068 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: cap their upside. I mean other times, when they make 1069 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: those catches and take them to the end zone, you're 1070 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: going to get a bunch of points. But for the 1071 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: most part, those types of plays are harder to predict. 1072 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: So Hearns is a good choice. So, Greg, you said 1073 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: that the biggest regression candidates are Blake Boardles, Thomas Rawls, 1074 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: and Doug Baldwin. And Greg, that's all the questions we 1075 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: have for you this week. I really appreciate you coming on. 1076 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: It was it was a blast talking to you, and 1077 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: it was fun doing the Draft Wizard too. Hey, Bobby JP, 1078 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me. It's a pleasure. I 1079 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: really like what you guys do over at Fantasy Pros. 1080 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,800 Speaker 1: I've been doing I've been an analyst there for a 1081 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: quest some time and yeah, I love being a part 1082 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: of the community in this way. Well, thanks for being 1083 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: a part of it. We really appreciate all you experts. 1084 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: And next week we're gonna have another expert, so make 1085 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: sure you guys all tune on for that. Greg, have 1086 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: a great week. Hey, thanks Bobby. You guys have a 1087 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: good night. Thank you, take care and that's all we 1088 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: have for you on the show this week. If you 1089 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: want to look up Greg Smith on Twitter. His twitter 1090 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 1: is at Greg Sauce and he was a great guest. 1091 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: Next week we're gonna have on another great guest, Jake 1092 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 1: Seey of Rhodo Experts, and we're gonna be starting a 1093 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: new segment called the Listener mail Bag, which we also 1094 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: do on our Fantasy Baseball podcast. And this just gets 1095 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: all your questions answered that you want answered. So please 1096 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and shoot me an email if you want 1097 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: questions answered, Bobby at Fantasypros dot com and just leave 1098 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: me your first name in the state you're from so 1099 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: I can mention it. Thanks for listening and have a 1100 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: great week. I just want you to watch. I don't 1101 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: even know