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Speaker 1: Star in Friscot. Now your hosts Nicky Spagnola, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones, and we are inside the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage studios here at the Star in Frisco, ready

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Speaker 1: to start rams week as the road to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl now starts at AT and T Stadium on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I've got my super Bowl cap still on after a

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Speaker 1: long weekend. Yes, it was a long weekend after a

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Speaker 1: long Thursday night in Chicago. It was a well deserved

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Speaker 1: long weekend, by the way, for whom, for us? For us,

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Speaker 1: the cab was for the team. We had to go

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Speaker 1: through four games in nineteen days, that's right, and miserable

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Speaker 1: about everyone, well yeah, well the last three for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it is a new day, a new week, and um,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna figure things out here, or at least we're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to figure that our way out here. We'll

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Speaker 1: let Jerry know we came up with there you go.

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Speaker 1: And it was an enjoyable Sunday of watching football, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Did you watch football, watch watch for ten ten hours? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Pretty much. Yeah, I was trying to do the math. YEA.

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Speaker 1: A couple of good games, yeah, I mean really that

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Speaker 1: New game in New Orleans, New Orleans game, the Baltimore game,

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and Buffalo. I said, I was miserable watching that one,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, see see what you should have done? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about and no one's in the room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: read my dog yesterday. It's like it's a weekend of

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Speaker 1: why can't they do this? And why can't they do

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Speaker 1: That's well, I'm sure every fan was thinking that. You know,

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Speaker 1: even though we wanted to relax because there's no more pressure,

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Speaker 1: you know from a cowboy game. You sit here and

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Speaker 1: you think, man, okay, look at Alan stats. It had

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Speaker 1: a horrible game. I mean, I don't think he had

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Speaker 1: It just he looked like and he was at home.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo played at home. They I guess what it is

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Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. And Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: seventeen and thirty nine, so less than fifty percent for

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six yards and a touchdown. Didn't

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Speaker 1: throw a pick, I mean rushing yards. He had nine

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Speaker 1: yards on two carries. See that that makes me mad.

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Speaker 1: It's not as many as sixty four. That makes me mad.

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Speaker 1: And then Coole Beasley's numbers four for twenty nine, four

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Speaker 1: I was thinking of you because then they were talking

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Speaker 1: they weren't. They had because that's how you think, Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: they had a plan. Write that there, and then you

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Speaker 1: watch the Sunday night game and you look at these

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams that are coming in here this week

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Speaker 1: and they just beat the Seattle Seahawks. How in the

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Speaker 1: world are we gonna beat that? Dee wow? Right? And

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Seahawks all of a sudden? Huh

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Speaker 1: how did this happen? So it's very confusing. I don't

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Speaker 1: I have no optimism because now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the Rams are looking good. That's what gives you hope.

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Speaker 1: They're looking good, the Rams looking But as far as

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are concerned they're not looking good. And the

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Speaker 1: longer you don't look good, the closer you are to

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Speaker 1: looking good again. Yeah. So that's like there's no bottle.

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Speaker 1: the closer you are to lose it. And the more

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Speaker 1: They are making their hospital visits this morning? The players

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Speaker 1: helping people and going to visit those hospitals. That was

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Speaker 1: something that I continue to do to this day through

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Speaker 1: my found days. So what's the Cowboys players schedule the

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Speaker 1: rest of the day. They've got pretty extensive meetings once

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, we'll look at all of it.

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Speaker 1: first name name Whostan Okay, how many Tristan's can a

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Speaker 1: The guys brought in and two of them are coming

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Speaker 1: back apparently, but for a workout. But he's eighty five

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Speaker 1: what Brett has been this year, clearly, um So at

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Speaker 1: He was terrible. I remember he used to say he

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Speaker 1: I took a mental holiday on that kick. Well, you

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Speaker 1: little older. Who's the kicker from Lake Hilands. They played

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Speaker 1: the commentators there that have vested to me, have a

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Speaker 1: vested interest in what's going on with Come on, they

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Speaker 1: had like three of them, right tool Could you see

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Speaker 1: that was on one of them? ESPN had too, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's on the pregame show. There was three and you've

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Speaker 1: got You've got herb, You've got Galloway. So Ohio State

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Speaker 1: is to College Football Network TV what the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: to the NFL network, No what what universe in Miami

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Speaker 1: or Florida players are to all NFL channels Because if

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Speaker 1: you look at it, Michael Irvin, Dion Sanders, how many

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Speaker 1: other Florida guys do we have up? So it does

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Speaker 1: not just the you but Florida State. Yeah, there's Florida

435
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Speaker 1: athletes period, got some. Yeah, there's Florida. So they're all

436
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Speaker 1: covered right there, FSU, Florida and Miami. So the narrative

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Speaker 1: is not always Your takeaway from that Saints nine Ers

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Speaker 1: game as far as what they were doing, I mean,

439
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Speaker 1: because it was such a great football game. My takeaway

440
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Speaker 1: is Wow. Jimmy Garoffalo, I am impressed. I'm sorry, I

441
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Speaker 1: am very impressed. I had so much doubt in Lynch

442
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Speaker 1: and this forty nineteen I just didn't think they were

443
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Speaker 1: going to be as good this quickly. Richard Sherman coming

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Speaker 1: back from the Achilles injury before yesterday with got a hamstring,

445
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Speaker 1: but even before that, he was anchoring that defense and

446
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: he was part of that. He was that the soul

447
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: of that defense because he brought his experience to a

448
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: young team full of great a great front seven. But

449
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Speaker 1: Garofalo is the guy. He is the He is the

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Speaker 1: cherry on top right now. The passages that he would

451
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Speaker 1: throwing in yesterday off balance people in his face. He

452
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Speaker 1: was doing that against the Giants in the first three

453
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Speaker 1: games of the year. He was that guy and I've

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Speaker 1: never seen him that accurate. And what impressed me about

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Speaker 1: it was the coaches themselves. They found a way to

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Speaker 1: go away from their game play and still be successful. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they usually run the ball. Yeah, Well they came out

458
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Speaker 1: the first drive, he's four to four. They went after him,

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Speaker 1: They went after they did coming back, and they were

460
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Speaker 1: just throwing play. They had a particular route that worked

461
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Speaker 1: the entire game. I think it was a play action

462
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Speaker 1: guy came up with a deep end, cut open all

463
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Speaker 1: day long, and I think around four times in crucial

464
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Speaker 1: moments they came back to that play and they kept

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Speaker 1: him alive. It kind of reminded me of what we've

466
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Speaker 1: talked about with the Cowboys defense using their rescinness against them.

467
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Speaker 1: I thought, and I didn't watch all the game, but

468
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Speaker 1: what the Saints were doing was a lot of that misdirection,

469
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Speaker 1: quick passing game, yards after catch. They always do that,

470
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Speaker 1: but they were able to catch the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: in a out of that, And and Breeze is obviously

472
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Speaker 1: still a productive player. Now has been questions about him,

473
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Speaker 1: but just the ability for both those teams to win

474
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Speaker 1: a different style of game. As you said, that speaks

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Speaker 1: to what a really talented, potentially great teams are. They're

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Speaker 1: they're they're ahead of everybody the conference. My man Deebo

477
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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel h Is he not a player. They either

478
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Speaker 1: throw it to him or handed to him. This guy

479
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Speaker 1: is dynamic and that's why I was hoping he would

480
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Speaker 1: follow the Cowboys. You know. And the other thing, the Niners,

481
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Speaker 1: they don't even have who I who was my man

482
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Speaker 1: in the draft who was not Jalen Hurts, but Jalen

483
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Speaker 1: heard the wide receiver out of Baylor who went early

484
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Speaker 1: third round. I understand the Cowboys really liked him too, Yes,

485
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Speaker 1: and he had he's had a back injury, hadn't played

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Speaker 1: all year. But we saw in the preseason. I think

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Speaker 1: he scored a couple of touchdowns maybe against us in

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Speaker 1: the in the preseason. I know one game I was

489
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Speaker 1: watching um and so they've got him, and you know

490
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Speaker 1: they've got all these guys of course, and then they

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Speaker 1: made the move Emmanuel Sanders. You know, as the season

492
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Speaker 1: went along and they realized, hey, we're better when we

493
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Speaker 1: thought we were, took many more out of the game,

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Speaker 1: took the crowd out of the game, and that they

495
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Speaker 1: had many opportunities where the crowd could have made a

496
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Speaker 1: big difference. And the Niners were just so poised. They

497
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Speaker 1: were making plays all day long. That to me, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: I hate the Niners. I mean everybody knows, but I mean,

499
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Speaker 1: you give him creat what credit is due, and I was,

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Speaker 1: I was just very impressed. I called a for the

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Speaker 1: Knight of Fan. I said, man, he's sorry, ass up

502
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Speaker 1: for the Niners should be pretty good. He was so

503
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Speaker 1: happy to hear me make that call because they were

504
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Speaker 1: just efficient and offensively and everything they did they took

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. About the end of the game, facing

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Speaker 1: fourth and two, and they hit Kittle and down the

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Speaker 1: sideline and then he gets face masks for a fifteen

508
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Speaker 1: yards and the face mask he's scoring. That's why the

509
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Speaker 1: guy didn't right, if he doesn't get that face mask,

510
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a touchdown. That's why he didn't let

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Speaker 1: go on. That's that's true. DP right there, holding on anything, anything,

512
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Speaker 1: you get everything, you know. All you need to know

513
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Speaker 1: about Garoppolo was when they scored. When the Saints scored

514
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Speaker 1: to go ahead, they it was a quick shot on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. He didn't have his helmet on. He was

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Speaker 1: going to get it or whatever, in a smile on

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Speaker 1: his face like okay, yeah, he's good. I like it

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Speaker 1: all right, this is gonna play to Mickey right here. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The Saints scored a touchdown early in that game. There

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Speaker 1: was a penalty on the extra point and they had

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Speaker 1: the option to go for two. They go for so

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Speaker 1: they moved it up to the one. They go for two,

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Speaker 1: and they missed it. And so then when you come

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Speaker 1: down to the end of the game, instead of being

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Speaker 1: up forty seven, well what would have been they lost

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Speaker 1: forty eight forty six, So instead of being up forty seven,

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Speaker 1: forty five. When they scored the touchdown, they could have

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Speaker 1: kicked the extra point for a three point lead. They

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Speaker 1: had to go for two at forty sixty five, So Mickey,

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Speaker 1: there you go. But you know what, I was waving

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Speaker 1: my flag to go for two. Oh God, you go,

532
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: because you got the ball on the one yard line.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the play call, but you're on the

534
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Speaker 1: one yard line. When Sean Payton usually comes up with

535
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: a pretty good play call down and they go line,

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Speaker 1: it's usually the fullback coming out in the flat, which

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Speaker 1: is what they did with the tight end touchdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they ran They ran it right up the middle,

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Speaker 1: if I remember, is that what it was. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to remember what they did with Hill had one of

541
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Speaker 1: the touchdowns, not taysom Um Josh Hill. Yes, the tight end, Yeah,

542
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: leaking out there. The four nine is went into that

543
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: game knowing that they're gonna have to put out all

544
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Speaker 1: stops to win it, and they did trick plays, very

545
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Speaker 1: well designed trick plays. Stuff we used to do back

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Speaker 1: in back in the October. I thought you were going

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Speaker 1: to say, back on the player back in October, stuff

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Speaker 1: that we used to do. I mean, you remember that

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Speaker 1: the Tavon Jet sweep against Philly. You know things like

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Speaker 1: that that just like excited the crowd and you know,

551
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: using guys to the best their ability. Yeah, we've got

552
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: forty Niners. Came out with two excellent gadget plays that

553
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: were extremely successful and very timely. That kept the crowd

554
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: out of the game. Is them being able to they

555
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: didn't just stick with their regular game plan or we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do what we do and they're gonna do what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. We're gonna see who's best. No, they came

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Speaker 1: out with some trickeration that really turned the tide for

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: this game. It kept the crowd out of the game,

560
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: and their momentum maintained throughout the entire day. And you

561
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: saw that across the league a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: when we're at home, you can kind of see more

563
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: of that. Kelsey and the Wildcat, I think for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the MS, I think the Rams through five or had

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00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: five carries with using their receivers, bringing back some of

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Speaker 1: the creativity that mcveigh's known for, and you know, finding

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Speaker 1: other ways that if you know, they only started doing

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00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: this because on this winning streak. So it's like you

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Speaker 1: have to have the confidence as a team to put

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Speaker 1: that in. And if you're going to have the confidence

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00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: of the team, that means defensively or offensively, you have

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Speaker 1: to keep yourself in the position in the game to

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Speaker 1: where this is the perfect time for that call. You

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Speaker 1: can't just run trick plays, right, You have to have

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Speaker 1: to be in that position to do. What that means.

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Speaker 1: You have to put that defense in a predictable position

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Speaker 1: to where you know, this is the defense they're going

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Speaker 1: to run, this is the time for that play. So

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Speaker 1: you got to do the normal stuff well before you

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Speaker 1: start with Warren Powler's used to call it gingerbread plays.

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Speaker 1: You have gingerbread nice, Yeah, you know, the little fancy things,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't do your basic things well, you

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Speaker 1: never get to those. You have to be in position

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Speaker 1: meaning there has to be the right time of the game.

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Speaker 1: That's your defense has to be in a certain frame

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Speaker 1: now and now, okay, they're right for the picking and

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Speaker 1: that's when you've run those plays. The other thing the

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Speaker 1: fifteen piece holiday jackpot. Holidays the day. And all you

637
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Speaker 1: need to do is go to Jack Black and use

638
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Speaker 1: the code Jackpot. And you got to do this before

639
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Speaker 1: midnight on Wednesday to take advantage. Get jack black dot

640
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: com Wednesday of this week by midnight bydnay. Okay, you

641
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: better hurry all right, fifteen pieces? Is that why your

642
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: skin is glistening? That's right, it really is. Yeah, it is, man,

643
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: You're just glowing over there. That's what A few days off,

644
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: that's right, watching other people. All right, the Missouri got

645
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: a football coach. They did, okay from Appalachian State. A

646
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: lot a lot drink A lot drink. I can't that's

647
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Speaker 1: a lie or something. App State. Here we go, all right,

648
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: um cow okay. I was thinking about this as the

649
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Saints and Niners are giving up forty eight and forty

650
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: six points for actively. Okay, the Cowboys have made a

651
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: habit of giving up some points the last couple of weeks.

652
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: But as you look down the stretch of this season, yeah,

653
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: you need to store up the defense. But does the

654
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: offense need to be back scored over thirty points if

655
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: you're going to get to where you want to get to. No,

656
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get in trouble, you can't have to.

657
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: You should not have to score thirty points a game

658
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: to win. And what they've done, as a matter of fact,

659
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: my math was already here the other day. They've given

660
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: up twenty five points a game in the last five games,

661
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: and if we eliminate what happened in New England with

662
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: the weather, it's twenty eight points a game in those

663
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: other four and they've lost three of them. So the

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00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: only one they won they gave up twenty seven to

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Detroit and they had to score thirty to win. Okay,

666
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: what about this week as it relates to the Los

667
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, whose offense is now getting back on track.

668
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: It appears gets on track us man, they were struggling

669
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: out too straight because the Bears got back on track

670
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: against the Trye, Right, I have to said, I think

671
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: the I think the Rams are gonna be a major problem.

672
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't like it when they come into here they're

673
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: feeling all comfortable. You know, the fans are gonna have

674
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: to be on our side. The fans are gonna have

675
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: to come. We need the energy level of the Saints

676
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: game last year. The crowd has to come out because

677
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: you know how we are in Dallas. We're gonna come

678
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: in there, we've lost three straight. We're gonna have our

679
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: heads in our hands, in our laps, and we're gonna

680
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: be waiting to boot. That's what they feel. They're gonna

681
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: be waiting to boot because everyone is on the narrative.

682
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's get rid of Jason Gett. How about how about this?

683
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: And this happened this morning in the locker room the

684
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: health club after work out, some guy I've seen them

685
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: in there before, where Mickey gets up his first call. Yeah,

686
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: he's four lockers down. He's never said anything to me, right,

687
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: And he looks at me and he goes, hey, Mac.

688
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: And I was looked around like I didn't see anybody

689
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Speaker 1: I knew, and it was the guy there. And he goes,

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Speaker 1: you know when you know when things are bad? I go,

691
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: when's that? He goes? When people quit asking your questions. Yeah,

692
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, apathy is the worst disease I've

693
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: been there. Yeah fifteen team Yeah, yeah, and so what

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00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: he just said, Yeah, if you will not have home

695
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: field advantage, if people don't come ready, and think about

696
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Speaker 1: all the people that have moved from California to hear

697
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: or Saint Louis here when they were in Saint Louis,

698
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of visitor friend fans

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Speaker 1: in the stadium. Monke here. Yeah. I thought the Chicago game,

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Speaker 1: I thought that we I thought we'd get a little

701
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: reprieve for being away from home, being away from the negativity.

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Speaker 1: And I saw how we played that clearly that was

703
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Speaker 1: not the case. And now you come back home and

704
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: people are just waiting on you. Yeah, I'm sure signs

705
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: are gonna be up. You know they're gonna have some.

706
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to have a few, Jason Garrett,

707
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, signs and things of that nature to

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: just show just how disappointed they are. And as soon

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00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: as the first negative thing happens, everybody's gonna be on board.

710
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: All the boobirds are going to be on board. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Third and one not make it what I'm afraid Okay,

712
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: aside from the fans, more importantly the players. Okay, what

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00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: needs to happen for the How much do the players

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Speaker 1: believe that they can turn this thing around? Because if

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Speaker 1: you listen to Troy Aikman on the broadcast on Thursday night,

716
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Speaker 1: he basically was saying, as a player, I don't believe

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Speaker 1: I'd believe it at this point. You know that he's

718
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: been there, he's been there, so so how difficult is

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Speaker 1: it to convince the players? And how does a coach

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Speaker 1: convince the players that you can do this. I don't

721
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: think the coach has to convince them. I think it's

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Speaker 1: got to come from the players themselves. They have to

723
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Speaker 1: believe that. We talked last week about what do you

724
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: need to do to turn this thing around? And I

725
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: can see a scenario to where we you're gonna get

726
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to a point in the game where

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00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: you're going to need that play and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they're going to be able to pull it out

729
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: in one way or the other, but there's going to

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00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: have to be a moment a goal line stance, you know,

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Speaker 1: a great drive after a goal line stance, something like

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00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia I mean they were they were in this

733
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Speaker 1: sort of in this position. It wasn't as dire, but

734
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Speaker 1: they had just come off a loss to the Jets,

735
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: and that's pretty bad. But now you're at a time

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Speaker 1: where okay, now the season's on the left and you're

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00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: coming back home. But what they do again against Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: in that game, they got two quick takeaways for the

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00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: first time all season. They had a short fee and

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00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: the crowd was in it, and the crowd was in it,

741
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: and they wound up beating him. Whatever was that entire game,

742
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: Like the crowd stayed in the game. That was optimism

743
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: going throughout the entire stadium as we were making our mood,

744
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: as we were making our plays, and you can feel

745
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: that positive energy, just like the Saints game last year.

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00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen anybody hit Kamara like that before, the

747
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: way Jayala Smith hit him right. He out to me,

748
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: he's a health of a player, still a health of player,

749
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: but I think that actually took a lot out of

750
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: him period as a as a player. He hadn't really

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00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: been that same dynamic guy since that play. You see

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So if you catch a moment like

753
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: that to where if you got one guy that just

754
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: makes this play that ignites the entire stadium, you're gonna

755
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: have to have that status quo is not gonna work. Okay, guys,

756
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: let's just come out and do our same scripted plays.

757
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: Here we go down the field. We're gonna run twenty

758
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: five plays and we're gonna go seventy five yards and

759
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna score a touchdown and then that's it. No,

760
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: you have to you have to do the trick plays

761
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: like San Francisco. Gotta have the gadget plays, those that

762
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: you know are going to work to where the crowd's

763
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: gonna go, oh, here we go. There's there's the effort.

764
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: There's the mental and physical effort that we're putting into this.

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00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Right now, the crowd, the Cowboy fans, don't feel like

766
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: they're putting the mental and physical effort into being successful.

767
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: It's like everyone's going out there with the status quote.

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00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Status quote will not It's it's the same principle as

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00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: what did you see in a sudden change play like

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00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: for instance, Jets game, Cowboys went forward on fourth and

771
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: one down at the seven yard line. What what the

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00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Jets do right after that? They went deep and they

773
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: hit on it and it was a sudden change play.

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00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of times you get the ball at

775
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: the mid at midfield and you get out there right

776
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: after getting a turnover and you hit them with your

777
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: best shot right there sat a heat. Yeah, exactly. They

778
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: need something to steal momentum back and get some confidence

779
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: back and just get something rolling. Yeah, excitement. To answer

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00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: your question, I think it's the defense. I think they've got.

781
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: They're capable of more than what they've shown. I don't

782
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: think it's effort and well, I mean we've seen them

783
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: play at higher level before, and I think they are

784
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: missing Layton Vanderesh. They're missing some guys. But they've got

785
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: to be able to Like Mickey said, offense can't be

786
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: asked to score thirty points every game to win um.

787
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: The question though, like ever since said, you got to

788
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: do something to make something happen, or guys trying or

789
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: guy's pressing to do that, and then it just compounds

790
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: itself because they're trying to get something going a little

791
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: bit defensively, I haven't seen the creativity like what we

792
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: were talking about in the Saint the States and nine

793
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: this game, there had been that creativity I'm sure they've

794
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: tried things to where they say, oh this is solid,

795
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: but they haven't really gone out and done anything. You know.

796
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: Well when they when they have, it hasn't worked. I

797
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: haven't seen they try to that reverse screen pass and

798
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: it got intercepted. I think the wall they can run

799
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: the option they tried. He just run a ten yard

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00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: out and turn around and catch the ball. I was

801
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: thinking saw some of the running backs that that they

802
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: were they were using yesterday. Uh, let's let's be real.

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00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: Zeke is not a route runner. Okay, he's not a

804
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: route runner. So you start thinking about these little nuances.

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00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: If he's not a route runner, don't put him in

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00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: the slot. Okay, route runners going the slot. Unfortunately that

807
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: should have been powered and he wasn't active in this labe.

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00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: But even so, even so, you just let your slot

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00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: man do your work. Then you put the running back

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00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: out to the sideline. He could be a great outlet.

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00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Well it's deception because now the defense doesn't know if

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00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna line up in the slaughter at running back.

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00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll see and and so on fourth down, you don't

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00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: have your running back running out. No, he's not running out.

815
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out, then you have your

816
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: running back is the last option. He's gonna be one

817
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: on one with the guy that's covering him. That's your

818
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: best case scenario as opposed to having a running that's

819
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: like putting a slot guy into running back and telling

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00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: him to run the ball. You know, I mean just

821
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: little things like that to where you just maximize your

822
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: chances and your efforts. So you asked, how do they

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00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: get the team to believe in this? Yes, and I

824
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: can't remember who said, if it was Jason and his

825
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: conference call or Jerry a day or so before that,

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00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: but one of them said, have to remind them of

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00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: some of the good things we've done like this, we're

828
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: in a slump, but we have done good things to win.

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00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: Those six games were not all that bad. So that's

830
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: what they have to do. But to make the plays,

831
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: you got to do more than to get the fans

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00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: involved in passing out white rally towels and rob was

833
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: about defense because right now Zeke Elliott is playing some

834
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: good football. Yeah, that offensive line they're blocking people. You know,

835
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: we got great averages on the last few game, but

836
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you can't keep running the ball when your defense is

837
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: not holding anybody right these, It throws balance out the wind.

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Defense is the thing. Your defense has to play. And

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