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Speaker 2: Without Ricky, Latin music wouldn't be what it is today.

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Speaker 1: He paved the way for so many He.

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Speaker 2: Said, yosoi Latino isoi gay is.

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Speaker 1: With that one sentence, he went from a Latino icon

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Speaker 1: the same effect today as it did back then. But

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Speaker 1: remember this was twenty ten. Wait, Joseph, do you remember

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Speaker 1: when Barbara Walters tried to get him to come out

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Speaker 1: in two thousand during that interview.

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Speaker 2: Listen rest in Peace?

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Speaker 1: But she was shady, so shady, and the rest of

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Speaker 1: his career was so much greater back then.

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Speaker 2: Well, not much different, but okay, true, true, Well, we

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Speaker 2: have seen change with artists like Bad Bunny leading the

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Speaker 1: We still have so much work to do when it

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Speaker 1: but we do have Ricky to think for part of

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Speaker 2: Ricky had reached a point in his career where he

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Speaker 2: was doing extremely well, but something was missing.

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Speaker 1: Authenticity.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Becoming an Icon, we're going to

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Speaker 1: take you from Ricky's hit Begata to present day Ricky.

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Speaker 1: We're looking back on his MTV Unpluged performance, his collab

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Speaker 1: with a little known TV producer named Ryan Murphy, and

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Speaker 1: his journey to becoming the activist he is. Today, I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Lilianavasquez.

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Speaker 2: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an Icon.

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Speaker 1: A weekly podcast where we give you the rundown on

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Speaker 1: how today's most famous LATINX stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 2: And given the world some extress at all.

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Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are going in the.

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Speaker 1: Only way we know how, with who and a lot

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Speaker 1: of opinions as we relive their greatest achievements on our

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Speaker 1: journey to find out what makes them so iconic. You

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Speaker 1: know what's kind of amazing.

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Speaker 2: To me how much we know about space and the Adaman,

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Speaker 2: but how little we know about the sea and the

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, orry all that too, but for the moment,

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Speaker 1: mister Martin and how consistent he's been throughout his life.

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Speaker 1: That too, sure, So After Life, his third English album,

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Speaker 1: Ricky was looking for a connection and a sort of

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Speaker 1: intimacy with his fans. So what did he do?

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Speaker 2: I know what I wish he did, But MTV unplugged

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Speaker 2: the raw sounds, the moodiness, the vibes with so nighties.

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Speaker 1: Ricky is the first singer to use unplugged as a

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Speaker 1: chance for reinvention. Lauren Hill and Shakira did it, and

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Speaker 1: now it was Ricky's turn.

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Speaker 2: It was a chance for everyone to see Ricky unmasked

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Speaker 2: who he truly was and underneath those tank tops and

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Speaker 1: It would strip back the overproduced tracks and leave nothing

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Speaker 2: I mean he danced a bon bay blena bare foot.

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Speaker 2: I'm trembling. So. The set was.

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Speaker 1: Performed in Miami in August of two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: featuring some of his iconic ballads as well as songs

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Speaker 1: two songs stood out and would become some of his

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Speaker 1: biggest hits to this day. The songs do ric guerdo

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Speaker 1: translated to your Memory and beg et it get closer?

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Speaker 2: Oh I love this one gets my hips moving. Can

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Speaker 1: These two songs were polar opposites, but both were inspired

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Aginaldo Hibato finishing with an aginaldo or rocovignon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what any of that means, but that

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Speaker 1: And Pegatta, on the other hand, is purely a Puerto

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that is either, but that song

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Speaker 1: To It often features guitars at guadro and even bongos.

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Speaker 2: Do those farmers wear headbands and cargo pants?

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to bring up his look.

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Speaker 1: How would you describe it to our audience?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, one I would say it's bringing

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Speaker 1: Sorry, hold please, hold please. I'm putting on my style

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Speaker 1: you on that, because there's literally no hotter thing in

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Speaker 1: So you stand corrected by me.

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Speaker 2: nineties are back. He can bring sexy back now if

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Speaker 2: like Latin hot. It was. It was everything.

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Speaker 1: I love that you just claimed headbands has only hot

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Speaker 1: So, just to bring you into that moment, we have

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Speaker 1: Ricky Martin Brushy tattooed in a sleeveless vest type sleeveless shirt,

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Speaker 2: Deep v's is it a deep V? It was kind

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Speaker 1: You know what's stopping them is that they would be

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Speaker 1: Nobody can do that look hotter than Ricky Martin.

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Speaker 2: His performance was so good it felt like he was back.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one thousand percent the intimacy that

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Speaker 1: for his other song through Recuerdo, Martin sat down the

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Speaker 2: It made everyone the woon. Also saying the word swoon

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Speaker 2: Are we bringing back swoon?

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Speaker 1: I challenge you to use it one more time in

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Speaker 2: Put your butt game on Now.

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Speaker 1: This song allowed us to see a softer and more

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Speaker 1: He went on tour again on the Black and White

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Speaker 1: He then released his first Italian song, Non siamo soli

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, why wasn't Ricky on season two of White Lotus?

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Speaker 2: I need to speak to the manager.

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Speaker 1: But with Ricky, as soon as he finds himself musically,

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Speaker 2: What oh he told you about that? I guess it's

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Speaker 1: I'm just ignoring you.

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Speaker 2: I'm moving on.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say he went back to his first love

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Speaker 1: aka Not Joseph. In February twenty twelve, he had a

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Speaker 2: Now that was a look. The facial hair he had

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Speaker 1: Clearly that look was working on more than just to you.

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Speaker 1: The theater's box office sales broke records six times. People

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Speaker 1: Ricky had found the career he'd always longed for. He

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Speaker 2: And he was acting, which he loves more than me.

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Speaker 1: He was doing what he wanted to professionally, but he

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Speaker 1: Despite all the success and strides made in the name

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Speaker 2: Ricky was not all that happy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you ever really be happy if you

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to feel so alone because of the

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Speaker 2: But it's another thing to not be able to share

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Speaker 1: He was drawn to other people from a very young age.

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Speaker 1: According to an interview with Rolling Stone in nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: Well he was dating women on and off throughout his career.

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Speaker 1: One in particular, Alejandra Guzman, left him heartbroken. At the time,

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Speaker 2: Girl, Men are my thing too, Bitch life, what's good?

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Speaker 2: their online flirtation i RL and flew to London to

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Speaker 2: I get cute. After all those heartbreaks, he found his

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Speaker 1: The couple then welcomed more children into their life, this

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Speaker 1: Martin Yosef. Since coming out, Martin has become a very

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Speaker 1: Now, both Joseph and I were obviously raised in Latino households.

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Speaker 1: As Latinos, so much of the ideas that we have

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Speaker 2: He's thinking about his mom and now look at him,

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Speaker 1: So it's only fitting that he went back to mentoring

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Speaker 2: They were basically trying to find the next Latino One

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Speaker 1: By the way, we love bts on becoming an icon.

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Speaker 2: We are here for that. However, Ricky was an executive

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about how thirsty Lauda was that entire season,

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Speaker 1: The way she was looking at those boys that can't

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Speaker 2: Oh angry yys lil's. Don't even get me started on

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Speaker 1: Listen. Her words may have been about the singing, but

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Speaker 1: CNCO was born.

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Speaker 2: CNCO oh rot like sinko. Wait, they just dropped the ie.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Martin went on to become their very own Simon

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Speaker 1: Billboard compared the group with Manudo, noting not since Manudo

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Speaker 2: One more? No?

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Speaker 1: two CNCO songs and it doesn't matter because the boys,

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Speaker 2: They were totally cute and I could totally see what

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Speaker 1: Okay, moving on before we get a lawsuit. Jumping from

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Speaker 1: As we all know, when it comes to Murphy projects,

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Speaker 2: So basically, Beka do crime.

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Speaker 1: Ricky scored the role of Antonio Demico Gianni's real life boo, who,

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong, and hithaway, that's why we are not

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Speaker 1: selling becoming an Icon rights to Ryan Murphy.

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Speaker 2: The fuck yeah, we will write that check Ry Yan.

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Speaker 2: We hear it at cash Maining.

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Speaker 1: Ricky knew this was the best way to ride that

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Speaker 1: wave back into television.

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Speaker 2: I love how he was creating another manuval and then

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Speaker 2: he was like, let me go give the people an

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Speaker 2: award worthy performance. You think you'd be tired of taking

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Speaker 2: care of four kids, but no, he runs a caffeine

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Speaker 2: and a dream. I'm sure how do you do it loth.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't, but I will say that when

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Speaker 1: you have kids, you're just like a better multitasker. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I feel like my capacity before kids

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Speaker 1: was like at a seven, even though I felt like

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Speaker 1: it was a ten, And now that I have a baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, no, my capacity's a ten and

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Speaker 1: I run at a ten. It's not easy, but you

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Speaker 1: know what, Let's also be honest and keep it real

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Speaker 1: because that's what we do here. He has help, Like

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Speaker 1: he's not watching his four kids every day from like

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Speaker 1: wake up to bedtime. You gotta have a village. You

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Speaker 1: need your peeps to help support you because you can't

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Speaker 1: be on set for months at a time and like

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Speaker 1: not have somebody at home with your children. So I

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Speaker 1: think he's got a lot of help because we all do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not Ricky Martin level help, but we all need

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Speaker 1: help to make sure we're doing it all.

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Speaker 2: Ricky hasn't had many dull moments in his career. Sure

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Speaker 2: there were personal lows, but work wise, he has always

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Speaker 2: found a way to stay on top.

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Speaker 1: On the next becoming an icon.

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Speaker 2: There's so much we didn't get to cover or uncover

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Speaker 2: in Ricky's career.

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Speaker 1: So many songs we didn't even get to discuss, but

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Speaker 1: don't worry. Next episode, we're going to catch you up

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Speaker 1: on all of Ricky's life, all of.

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Speaker 2: It mm hmmmm. We're leaving no.

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Speaker 1: Crumbs, and we'll bring a very special guest on this

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Speaker 1: episode to discuss it all. Becoming an Icon is presented

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Speaker 1: by Sonoo and Iheart'smichael Kuda podcast Network. Listen to Becoming

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Speaker 1: an Icon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcast