WEBVTT - How Different is Kamala’s Border Policy 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:09.879 All Zone Media. Hello podcast fans, Me James and my 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.520 friend Scherene and also Cherene's cat Bunny. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.960 Yes, yeah, she is here. She is here and ready 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:16.400 to pard. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:20.040 Yeah. She loves to cast a pod and so do we. Today, Serene, 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.400 we have the great pleasure of talking about the border again, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.280 which is something I talk about a lot, something that 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.680 politicians also talk about a lot. Today, what I want 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.960 to talk about is the difference between Kamala Harris and 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.960 Donald Trump when it comes to the border, because shockingly, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.400 there's been a lot of crap reporting on her border stance. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.360 There has been some good reporting, and like, there's always 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.680 going to be right wing disinformation anytime you talk about 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:45.160 the border. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:45.400 Right. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.440 Just today, Border Patrol released video of a woman falling 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:52.559 to her death from the border wall. Border Patrol agents 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.280 stood there for twenty four minutes watching her struggle. There 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.840 was a ladder, and they decided to watch her struggle 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.160 until she died as she fell, and then she died 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:07.959 well watching this like objectively tragic thing, right, Like, when 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.600 we think about how we get to fascism, we get 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.200 to fascism when my taxes pay people to stand there 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.240 and watch a woman die rather than do a single 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.200 thing to help her, and then a bunch of fuck 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.240 wits on the internet immediately start excusing this like it's 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.319 it's so predictable that it was going to happen, And 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.280 I'm just once again disgusted by the whole fucking apparatus 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.160 sit as the border. I guess, so I want to 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.319 talk about the things that have changed, right, and I 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.360 want to talk. We'll sort of start by outlining who 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.640 Kamale is with respect to the aborder. So everything she 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:44.560 took over from Biden, Kamala has been sort of offering 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.760 more platitudes than specifics, right, Like her campaign is mostly 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.280 based on vibes. Like I went to her campaign website 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.080 to see what her stances were on the border, it 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:56.400 is not mentioned. I think that's notable. But recently, in 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.760 some speeches she did offer some concrete ideas of what 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.520 her border policy might look like. So I'm going to 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.600 start with her campaign ad. This ad incidentally opens with 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.600 what I'm pretty sure is a drone shot from Campo, California. 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:15.160 I've taken pictures in reverse of that shot hundreds of times. 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:16.920 You can find them on my website. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.680 Slate bought some of them off me maybe a month 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.600 or two ago, No, not even like maybe maybe two 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:23.240 or three weeks ago. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:23.520 I guess. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.840 I watched a mother breastfeed her five month old child, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.920 maybe a couple of miles from there. It was one 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.720 hundred and five degrees. We were able to give them water. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:36.240 I saw someone in severe hypothermia right very hot. We 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.560 were able to call them off. I spoke to a 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.280 Sudanese family who were really struggling with making this long walk. 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.040 They have to make out there. None of that shit 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.440 made it into the Kamela Border advert, right, of course not. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.880 So I'm just going to play this advert for you, Shulan. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.040 On the border. The choice is simple. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:59.600 Kamala Harris supports increasing the number of border patrol agents. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.840 Donald Trump blocked a bill to increase the number of 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:07.600 border patrol agents. Kamala Harris supports investing in new technology 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.480 to block fetanyl from entering the country. Donald Trump blocked 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.560 funding for technology to block fentanyl from entering the country. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.839 Kamala Harris supports spending more money to stop human traffickers. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:23.480 Donald Trump blocked money to stop human traffickers. Kamala Harris 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.520 prosecuted trains national gang members and got them sentenced to prison. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.440 Trump is trying to avoid being sentenced to prison. There's 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.320 two choices in this election, the one who will fix 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.760 our broken integration system and the one who's trying to 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:39.680 stop her. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.680 A cop or a clown? Who should we vote for president? 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.119 And that's exactly it, right. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.040 She's leaning really heavily on this, like I am a 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.840 cop thing and like we have spent and continue to 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.320 spend billions of dollars on board of cops. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.960 That is not the fucking solution. It will be the solution. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.160 We cannot make this giant border so full of cops 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.960 that it's impossible for people to cross it. 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.320 People will still cross. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.240 It because cops ain't going to go to the middle 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.120 of the desert, because, you know, be inherent in being 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.600 a cop is also being lazy. So I want to 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.599 play some stuff that she said in Atlanta this week. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.560 So here is my pledge to you. As president. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.320 I will bring back the border security bill that Donald 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.760 Trump killed and I will sign. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.680 It into law. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.760 And so Donald Trump, what real leadership looks like? 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:42.080 Oh fuck off? 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.960 Yeah, So I'm going to subject you to some Carmela 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.000 and some Trump today. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.080 That's okay. I signed up for this. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.640 Okay, So here's another one of her, and this I 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.599 think is really telling, right where she is bragging about 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.039 the most conservative Republican supporting her bill. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:01.080 Donald Trump, on the other hand, he's been talking a 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.320 big game about securing our border, but he does not 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:11.719 walk the walk, or as my friend Quavo would say, 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:26.039 he does not walk it like he talks it. Where 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:37.320 if so, Look, our administration worked on the most significant 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:42.000 border security bill in decades. Some of the most conservative 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.240 Republicans in Washington, d C. Supported the bill. Even the 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.440 Border Patrol endorsed it. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.400 So I'm going to read some transcription that speech as well. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.760 Just this is pretty much the only point of data 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.320 we have on her proposed border policy. So we're going 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.920 heavy on this speech that she gave in at my 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:00.760 at a rally. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.000 Right. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.880 I went after transnational gangs, drug cartails, and human traffickers 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.640 that came into our country legally. I prosecuted them in 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.599 case after case, and I won, Harris said. Donald Trump, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.440 on the other hand, has been talking a big game 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.960 about securing our border, but he does not walk the walk. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.640 That's what you just heard, right, And then she goes 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:23.839 on to reference Quavo, which is cool and normal. So 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.359 let's talk about that leadership, and let's talk about the 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:27.200 bill she's proposing. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:27.440 Right. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.599 This is a bipartisan bill that was proposed last year 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.200 and that didn't succeed. Right, it's the one that Democrats 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.960 are making a big fuss about. Republicans getting the border bill. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.560 It's one of the only good things they've ever done, actually, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.040 because it represented a massive right wood swing from where 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.760 Democrats have previously been on immigration. In the bill, DHS 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.159 could close the border if border patrol encountered four thousand 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.599 or more migrants on average over a seven day period. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.440 The border would then have to be shut down if 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.120 encounters reached a seven day average of five thousand, or 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.840 if they exceeded five hundred in a single day. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.200 Does that happen on these numbers like realistic? 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.320 Yes? 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.040 Well, a really important thing to remember when we talk 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.520 about these numbers is did you notice that it was 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:15.280 phrases encounters, not people. So this is a thing that 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.920 is apparently impossible if you write for a fucking broad 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.400 cheat corporate legacy newspaper to understand an encounter does not 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.640 represent a unique individual. Border patrol do not give us 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.520 data on unique individuals. They give us data on encounters. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.520 And this is important because under title forty two, which 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.240 I made a series about last year that you can 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.640 listen to, I would like it if you did, people 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.000 can be returned to Mexico. And as you'll see, and 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.960 under this proposal, people can be returned to Mexico and 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.400 then they will try and come back because most of 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.040 the people coming to our border are not from Mexico, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.280 nor do they have roots in Mexico, nor can they 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.240 be safe in Mexico. So they will try and come back, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.600 and they will try and come back in a different place, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.440 in a more remote place, and that will result in 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.200 a higher risk to their lives making that journey. Right, So, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.080 eighty five hundred individuals across the whole border doesn't mean 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.120 to have them five hundred people, but yes, those numbers 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.800 are reachable. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.040 That's just so, that's so disingenuous to word it that way. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.880 Yeah, Border Patrol just had, like I don't know, they 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.240 had so much success with doing this under title forty two, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.480 Like we're flooded with migrants and like I've spoken to 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.640 people who have tried seven times to cross. You know, 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.200 it's extremely disingenuous, and I think we're going to get 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.080 onto this. But this is a debate about the border 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.240 happening by people who never go to the border and 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.800 don't understand what it's like, both in the media and 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:37.559 in politics. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.559 And I think that that is a problem. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:44.040 So when it's closed, quote unquote, now, we can't close 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:48.079 the border, right like a physically we cannot be We're 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.079 not going to close the border and be like, Okay, Mexico, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.640 no tomatoes, Okay, no tourists can come into Orlando now, 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.280 right that that's not what it's about. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:56.240 It is open to. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.600 Capital and is open to wealthy people. All we're doing 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.240 is it to the people who most need a help, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.800 that being people seeking asylum. Right, So, when it's quote 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.720 unquote closed, they would still process fourteen hundred migrants through 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.080 ports of entry. That would presumably be people arriving using 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.120 CBP one, which is a fatally flawed app which doesn't 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.280 work for black folks, which has been hacked. All the 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.880 appointments are sold booked up month in advance. You can 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.720 only use it north of Mexico City. It's a complete mess. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.079 Every single migrant I have encountered has tried to use 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.040 CBP one. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:32.800 And given up. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.880 It's not even available in that many languages, right, I 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.760 think it's English, Spanish and Haitian creole right now, Well, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.079 it's it's ludicrous to suggest that this is accessible, and 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.440 it doesn't work very well on Samsung phones. I have 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.720 a pra a foil. I guess a foyer out to 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.600 CBP about that. But you know, maybe in six years, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.280 after like several court cases, I'll get it back. But 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.120 I know that people are buying iPhones migrant advocates both 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.720 in Mecha Goo City and north of there, to allow 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.400 migrants to access the app. They're trying to help them 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.080 overcome these hurdles, right, but like, fucking come on, you know, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.480 we've got the entire US government here and and it's 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.080 my friends trying to get five bucks from from you 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.800 know whoever to buy an iPhone so migrants can share it, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.400 Like it's obscene. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.840 Only unaccompanied miners. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.120 Would be processed if they entered between ports of entry, right, 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.000 So that's people under the age of eighteen without their folks, 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.559 anyone who tried to cross between ports of entries. So 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.920 port of entry is when you cross the border with 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.800 your passport and you go through an office that support 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.720 of entry. Right, So if you cross in another fashion 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.560 over a river, over a wall, around a wall, under 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.120 a wall, through a wall, just across the desert, weare 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.920 there isn't a wall that's between ports of entries. If 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.800 anyone tries two or more times, then during a border emergency, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.040 they will be barred from the United States for a period. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:49.120 I think it's a year. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.680 I should note that this bill didn't pass, but Biden 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.480 did write an executive order setting an arbitrary cap at 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.320 twenty five hundred encounters per day, which you will notice 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.440 is lower. And it removes the requirement that border patrol 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.320 ask migrants if they fear persecution. So this is really important. 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.680 It's called a shout test. And the difference here is 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.760 between me saying and ensuring you've just come across the border, 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.600 are you here because you fear persecution? Can you not 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.920 safely go home? And me just saying get in the 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.880 fucking van, and you having to articulate that you fear persecution? Right, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.200 Which is that requires them to know that they have 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.160 to articulate it. It requires them to be able to 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.959 articulate it in a language it's intelligible to the officer 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.480 or whoever's interviewing them. Right, it's a much higher barrier. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.559 And in both cases, right, you could have the same 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.079 person and they could be rejected because they didn't pass 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.480 this so called shout test. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:38.640 It's ridiculous. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.520 It's a really bullshit workaround for someone who is clearly 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:42.640 eligible for asylum. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:42.880 Right. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.520 Yeah, And like any good faith actor wants to find 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.360 out if that person is going to be persecuted when 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.319 they go home. And so moving to a shout test, 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.559 like you are consciously saying some people were going to 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.000 send home they will fucking die, or they will be tortured, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.959 or they will face persecution of other means, right, because 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.760 they didn't articulate in the right words their fear of persecution. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.160 And it's just there is not a good faith argument 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.640 for this. It's just get numbers down at the cost 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.920 of human suffering. So in this case, right, I have 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.440 met migrants with pretty rock SOIDID claims. I don't want 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.600 to go into the details of their cases too much. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.959 I will in the future, but like you know, I'm 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.320 out at the border a lot, and I'm out in 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.000 the back country there a lot, and I try and 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.760 help people whenever I can. I talk to them about 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.559 their claims, and I'm not going to ask someone to 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.200 justify their trauma to me with seventeen documents, right, But 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:37.920 some of them have shown me things which I do 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.640 believe would would be a very cast iron asylum claim, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.920 and they seem to be since Biden's executive order, just 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.679 getting booted back across the border. So he kind of 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.720 worked around that part of the bill failing. But let's 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.080 look at what else is in it. So if the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.920 bill that Harris is saying she will reintroduce, of course 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.920 she herself can't, right, it's a legislative act or senator 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.520 or how over the House would The bill would limit 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.040 border closures to two hundred and seventy days, two hundred 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.600 and twenty five days, and one hundred and eighty days 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.839 for the first three years, which no, there's no limit 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:10.959 in the Biden executive order. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.520 So I guess that's better. I guess. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.959 I mean, fucking two hundred and seventy days when you 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.880 can't claim asylum, that's a lot of days. There's also 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.400 funding a lot of funding from more border patrol agents, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.760 of course, more asylum officers, as well as more than 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.280 one hundred judges. We do need to move people through 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.600 the immigration system. But a lot more pressingly, we need 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.400 to open legal passways that are not walking across the 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.240 desert and passing a shout test. It would mandate detaining 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.439 migrants if they try to enter the US outside of 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.800 ports of entry, depending their asylum claim. So this is 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.400 really big. Actually, it's going to result in a massive 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.160 increase in the amount of asylum detention beds we need. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.160 The bill contains funding for another ten thousand more beds, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.920 will probably end up needing more than that. But all 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.200 of these beds are not in state run facilities, right, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.959 They're in private facilities. ICE coordinates with it's cour civic. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.400 It's people who when Biden first came into office, he 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.199 wrote he wrote an executive order about getting rid of 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.360 private prisons. These are the private prisons. This is how 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.080 we reallocated money to those same people doing this terrible thing, right, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.640 which is locking people up for profit. I've heard terrible 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.840 stories about the conditions in some of these detention centers. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.760 And this is the guy who ran on and bragged 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.360 about closing down private prisons, sending more money to private 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.600 prisons just for migrants dot citizens because apparently their rights 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.440 don't matter. As much that their lives don't matter as 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.640 much talking of things that don't matter, Sharen, should we 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:35.600 take an at break. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.720 That was beautiful, James, thank you. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.440 So we're back, and I want to talk about what 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:55.320 Harris has done as VP, which is they put her 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.120 on this root causes beat right, what she's supposed to 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.200 go after, the root causes of migration. So I want 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.400 to start with this message, as she sent to the 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.960 people of Guatemala. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.480 I want to be clear to folks in this region 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:13.040 who are thinking about making that dangerous track to the 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.840 United States Mexico border, do not come. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:19.760 Do not come. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.720 The United States will continue to enforce our laws and 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:30.600 secure our border. They are legal methods by which migration 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:36.800 can and should occur, but we, as one of our priorities, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:43.920 will discourage illegal migration. And I believe if you come 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.160 to our border, you will be turned back. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.240 Do not come. Yeah, I think I've seen that before. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.640 Yeah. She took a lot of shit for that one, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.080 rightly understandably. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:54.360 Yeah. 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.880 Yeah, this is not the only time to bide administration 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.360 said this. By the way, they were tweeting, do not 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.400 come in and creole in twenty twenty one, Well from 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.120 the Embassy of the United States in eighty This has 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.760 been their message and continues to be their message. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.800 Now to the ongoing crisis down at the southern. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.280 Border, the focus of Vice President Kamala Harris's first overseas 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.600 trip since taking office. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.760 She had to Mexico today after spending yesterday in Guatemala, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.480 where she announced several initiatives and delivered a message to 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.200 potential migrants there, do not come to the United States. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.280 The Vice President also sat down exclusively with the NBC's 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.200 Lester Hoole, who began by asking her about that warning. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.280 In the news conference here in Guatemala City. You had 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.440 a message for would be migrants, don't come. Why should 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.960 they believe you when they know that people are getting in. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.560 I've been working on this issue for a very long time, 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:53.560 and the kind of violence and danger that is associated 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.280 with that track, especially when we're talking about from Guatemala 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:02.720 through Mexico to the United States, it's extremely dangerous. We 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:07.560 are looking at a situation where people are fleeing because 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.320 of hunger, because of the hurricanes, because of the pandemic. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.240 So the reason I am here is to address those issues. 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.720 Knowing that the people who are here for generations. They 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.960 want to stay, they don't want to leave, but they 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.560 need opportunity, they need assistance, they need support. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.679 Americans don't see a lot of them on a daily basis. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.640 What they do see it at their own border. Children 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.800 being lowered over offences, children coming in with phone numbers 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.280 stenciled on their hand. And so the question has come up, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.440 and you heard it here and you'll hear it again. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.199 I'm sure it's why not visit the border? Why not 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.200 see what Americans are seeing in this crisis. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.119 Well, we are going to the boarder. We have to 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.040 deal with what's happening at the border. There's no question 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.199 about that. That's not a debatable point. But we have 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.359 to understand that there's a reason people are arriving at 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.520 our border and ask what is that reason, and then 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.679 identify the problem can fix it. 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:01.720 Okay. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.320 So all of this was while the Biden administration continued 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.840 to defend and force Title forty two. If people haven't 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.600 listened to the series that made it about Title forty two, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.280 and I've said that twice, but that's like two three 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.520 hours of me explaining Title forty two, So that would 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.600 explain it better than a cand of twenty seconds here. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.760 Title forty two is a public health law, and the 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.800 idea of Title forty two is to prevent people with 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.760 tuberculosis coming into the United States. An element of Title 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.199 forty two of the United States Code it contains this. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.199 The idea was never to use it as a de 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.840 facto block on asylum, which is what the Trump administration 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.919 did for a year and the Biden administration did for 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.760 nearly three years. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:37.280 Right. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.239 The Bidens registration did it for much much longer. This 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.600 ended in May of twenty twenty three, and it was used. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.960 They called it catch and release, right, it was used 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.159 to bounce people straight back. As we spoke about before 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:50.320 catch and release. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.120 It's like you're literally like an animal practice, you know, like. 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.520 Right, yeah, Like these people are fucking fish, and I 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.359 don't like doing that to fish. Shouldn't stress out of fish. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.680 It's just vibing down there, ruin its day. So later 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.760 in that same interview, she was very defensive about her 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.400 failing to visit the border. But I think there are 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.400 very reasonable questions. Sometimes these criticisms are used in bad 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.280 faith by Republicans, So is everything right? It doesn't mean 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:22.920 that we shouldn't talk about it. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:23.560 We should. 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.840 I didn't see a single elected official from the Democrat Party. 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.360 I guess fucking Jim Desmond turned up, but I wish 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.240 he wouldn't. He turned up, told lies about who paid 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.639 for the aid, and then forced his in turn to 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.560 apologize for it when a bunch of people turned up 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:40.240 at his office. 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:42.240 Really great integrity. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.720 I didn't see a single Democrat for the months that 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.679 border patrol held thousands of people in open air attention, 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.959 without food, water, or shelter, and for the months of 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.080 my friends and I took care of them instead. What 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.359 Harris was doing was trying to connect business leaders with 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.240 economies in Central America to quote create jobs. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:01.520 Right. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.280 She has some success with a Japanese car factor in 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.480 Guatemala and a Swiss coffee processor buying more beans and 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.520 committing to more coffee purchases. 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.920 Right. But this shit does not work and it has 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:15.679 never worked. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:15.960