1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: what's up, everybody? Welcome to another edition here of Move 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: the Sticks, right Louis certainly draft analyst Dandiel Jeremiah from 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: NFL scout Bucky Brooks all here for you, guys in 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: a big day. Not only is this the two week mark, 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: two weeks from today, we're kicking this thing off live 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: from Las Vegas, but later today on Pass to the 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: Draft six pm Eastern time. Guys, we're gonna find out 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: who's also going to be there in Las Vegas, the 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: prospects that will be in attendance. That sounds kind of cool. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I was gonna ask if you want to play, guests, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: but we'll have all that come up for you a 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: bit later to TV. Yeah. Meanwhile, let's kick off our 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: big three here. Some are big news items. Uh, and look, 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield a big piece of the conversation now as 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the former first overall pick of the Browns, finally breaking 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: his silence about the situation now there in Cleveland after 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the team traded for to Shaw on Watson and Baker 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: sharing his thoughts Wednesday on the y n K podcast, 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I feel disrespected because I was told one thing and 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: they completed another. I'm just looking for stabilization right now, 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: and like, I know what I need to do for 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: me to be to be the best version of me 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: and to be able to lead an organization. And like, 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm in a good place right now. Do you have 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: any idea where you're gonna land? Oh? Man, this would 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: have been about a week and a half ago. I 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: would have said Indianapolis, um Seattle, I mean probably the 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: most likely option. What did they feed the dog? He's 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: very comfortable. It's out, Yeah, just out of there. I 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: wish I could sleep like that. Okay, So let's talk 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: about this thing here, Bucky obviously here with us from 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: home and DJ. I'm gonna start with you. I think 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: it's a rather Bucky. Let me start with you here 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: because I think it's it's kind of clear that we 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: all understand the disrespect angle on the Baker Mayfield feels 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of in his dna um. But as from 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: what's the next he mentioned Seattle? Does that make sensors 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: that feel like the potential landing spots here, Bucky are 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: kind of drying up for for Baker. Yeah, I think 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: the dance cards are filling up and then filling up fast, 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and so for Baker Mayfield, it's a tough situation. He 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: can speak about. He can talk about the Seattle Seahawks, 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: and certainly that would appear to be in play because 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: you have Drew Lock there. They areson with the number 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: nine pick. Maybe they want a vetteran quarterback. Uh. The 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks also have been kind of a refuge for 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: want say, misfit kids, but they handle personalities and being 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: able to be successful with him. But the one thing 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield and his leadership style, he just needs 51 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: to be very very careful with how he presents himself 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: doing this bit of adversity, how he carries himself, who 53 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: he points to, who he throws under the bus, and 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: those things they don't necessarily bode well for him and 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: his next destination. Everyone understands that he plays with an edge, 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: but what you would like to see from your franchise 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: quarterback is that he's accountable. He takes owners ship of 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: his own mistakes in his own part of the undoing 59 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: where shortcomings that a Browns had, so you can feel 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: better about how he could lead in a new situation. Yeah, 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: maybe I'm on an island here, but I almost feel 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: like Baker is getting a little bit of a bad rap, 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: and he has played the disrespected card. He's done that 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: his whole life, go back to high school, the transfer situation. 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: He's always played that card. Even he was the first 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: overall pick, He's played that card. But I do think 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: in a sense he is a little disrespected here, not 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: by the Cleveland Browns, by the National Football League. When 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: you look at his year in last we saw him healthy, 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: and you take that year and you compare it to 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: who's starting for every other team in the league. I 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: think that season is better than twelve of the current 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: starters best season. So to me, yes, he's he deserves 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: one of these starting opportunities. But as you guys have 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of mentioned, these other teams are are committed. They're 76 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: in a committed relationship right now, so it's not easy 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: to find that home. But I don't want to lose factor, 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: lose side of the fact. This guy's got ability. Man, 79 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: he can play well. Let me ask you this for 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: comparison's sake. And look, it's kind of tough because of 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: the timing. A lot of these jobs were already kind 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: of accounted for by the time the Browns realized that 83 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: they were getting the Shawn Watson and moving on from Mayfield. 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: D J, let me ask you this and then, Bucky, 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to get your thoughts here, Like, let's compare 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: it to one of the other moves. Like if the 87 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders had had their choice in Baker Mayfield and 88 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, I think I would take I would say, 89 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I know, I would take Baker. I think Baker brings 90 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: them a confidence that Carson. I'm just kind of wondering 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: if that's still there. I mean, that's that's that's t 92 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that's to be the term. What about the Steelers in Trombiski, Yeah, 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: I would take Baker may I think Baker Mayfield's best 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: season is better than Trabiski's best season. What do you 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: think bucking on some of those potential options. Look, look, 96 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I think he's he's played really well, but I don't 97 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: know if anyone can replicate what he had at his 98 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: disposal with the Cleveland Browns doing his best season, he 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: had two Grade A running backs and Nick Jobb and 100 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. He had two receivers in Jarvis Langr and 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: O b J. He had three tight ends uh and 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: in Joeku and all of the guys Austin Hooper that 103 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: they brought in in an offensive line that was rebuilt. 104 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: That was the best. I don't know if anybody can 105 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: off from that. So even at his best, he had 106 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: to have a lot of support. I don't know if 107 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: he matches that somewhere else where he doesn't have a 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: similar cast. But the last thing I'll just had real quick. 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: We saw Trevor Lawrence, incredibly talented, go number one overall 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and they couldn't get first down as much less win 111 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: football games. He walked into Cleveland's number one overall pick. 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: I think he was six and seven his first year 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback. So it wasn't always sunshine and 114 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: roses around him throughout his career. Now, and look, that's 115 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: kind of been the case for the guy we're talking 116 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: about next here with their Car and in the Las 117 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders kind of underappreciated in that in that sense 118 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: somewhat maybe a little bit more respect given to Car 119 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: from what he's done and guiding this Raiders franchise for 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: the last few years. And he's gonna get at least 121 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: another three, signing that three year on one point five 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: million dollar extension with the Raiders, and after it was announced, 123 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: came out and said, look, he told his agent, I 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna play for the Raiders. I'm gonna go 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: play golf. Well, as it turns out he can now 126 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: do both um pretty well. Actually, as that now puts 127 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: him right about in that just outside the top five, 128 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: really right inside the top five mark in terms of 129 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterbacks. Uh, you know, behind the guys like 130 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Alan Mahomes, Watson and Rogers who were getting you know, 131 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: in the forty three to fifty million per year range. 132 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: But that's still a healthy number for Derek Carr piloting 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: this Raiders ship here in DJ this is the alter 134 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: a competitive a f C. West. Car said, he knew 135 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: where he stood with this staff, which maybe unlocks a 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: little bit more of that confidence to lead this team. 137 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Where do you feel like the expectations are now with 138 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: Derek Carr? This is a dream scenario for Derek Carr. 139 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: He's he's got the commitment. You talk about the organizational commitment, 140 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: now you have the financial commitment. He's surrounded by talent. 141 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: Look where they bring in with Davante Adams, Hunter, Renfro, 142 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Darren Waller. They are loaded with talent, but the expectations 143 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they've really risen. I don't know that 144 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: anybody anticipates they're going to win the division or is 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: putting that pressure on them that they need to win 146 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: this division. It's still the Kansas City Chief's Division. The 147 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Chargers have loaded up, even though they beat the Charges 148 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: that last game to get in the playoffs last year. 149 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers enter this upcoming season with higher expectations. 150 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: And now you've got Russell Wilson joining Denver, so it's 151 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a unique time to be Derek Carr. I think it's 152 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a perfect opportunity for him without a ton of pressure. Yeah, 153 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: look as a perfect opportunity on him. And I would 154 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: say those within Raider nations feel like Derek Carr has 155 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: to take his game up a notch because the expectations 156 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: then that you're going to the playoffs. You want to 157 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: go from good to great. Joshua Daniels comes over. We've 158 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: seen the work that he's been able to do with quarterbacks. 159 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: So now he has his money, he has the weapons 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: around him, the excuses are kind of off the table. 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: For Derek Carr. So now the expectation is that they 162 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: not only perform at a playoff level, but they compete. 163 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: They push the Kanda City Chiefs and the LH Charges 164 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: to win the division, and then they get into the 165 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: postseason and they make noise. So on the out side, 166 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: maybe there's no pressure, but I think internally inside the nation, 167 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: I believe they think Derek Carr needs to nail live 168 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: up to the compensation that he's been given. So I 169 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: think you could slot the Raiders in in this competitive division, 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: like really anywhere in spots one through four, and even 171 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: if they finished fourth, like they might still win ten 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: or eleven games and make the playoffs. Or or this 173 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: division could kind of eat its own and we might 174 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: be in a situation where this is a nine or 175 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: ten win division when it's all said and done. Yeah, 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: no question. All right, guys, let's get into a draft 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: conversation here. It's just kind of fun because two weeks 178 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: from today, as I mentioned, we are kicking off the 179 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: draft live from Las Vegas, and in the meantime, I 180 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: feel like it might be a good time to connect 181 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: some dots with some of these prospects that we're gonna 182 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: hear their names called early in this draft, using their 183 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: prior relationships connections to project some fits in terms of 184 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: comfortability on the NFL level. DJ, Let's start with Matt Corral. 185 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: Let's go back into the background and find some of 186 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: us here. Once upon a time, Pete Carroll worked for 187 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Monty Kiffin, and then Pete Carroll hired Lane Kiffin. Lane 188 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Kiffin is the head coach at Old Miss. Lane Kiffin 189 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: coaches Matt Corral. Pete Carroll's with the Seattle Seahawks. You see, 190 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: this is six degrees of separation, big in style. We're 191 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: connecting it all together here. Who's gonna get better information 192 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: on Matt Corrall than Pete Carroll is? And they could 193 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: be in the quarterback market. Maybe it's not at nine, 194 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's in the second round. Maybe they slide back 195 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: from nine. But it's easy to connect those dots. Bucky, 196 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: what do you think about Corral to the Seahawks there? 197 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: I actually liked that moving. I like Macarell going there, 198 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and I think if you tell came out back in 199 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: the first round, top of the second round, I think 200 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: it's a perfect fit. Remember, the Seattle Seyhaks have two 201 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: picks in the second round at forty and forty one. 202 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: Maybe they moved into the back end of the first 203 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: round to take McCarrel. Let's get another connection here for you. 204 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Let's play six degrees of separation Bucky with Traylon Burke's 205 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: from Arkansas. The wide receiver, Oh mr Whoo Pig Suey 206 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones certainly has uh belted it out a few 207 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: times as some old Arkansas games, and so maybe he 208 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: cast his eyes there and saw a big fellow on 209 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: the perimeter dominating on the outside. And maybe while he 210 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: was watching Burke's do his thing, he kind of reminisced 211 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: about the AD eight club and old Daz Bryant who 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: used to wear a T eight for the Cowboys. And 213 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: he looks and he says, you know, I'm looking at 214 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: the offensive lineup in there's a little hole there because 215 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: the Mary Cooper has been traded away. So maybe he 216 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: goes back to old Whoo pick Suey land and takes 217 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: tray Lion bursts and drops him right into Mary Cooper spot. 218 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: He can't give him ay to eight, but maybe gives 219 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: him another little fancy number so he can be a cowboy. 220 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna get extravagant there with the connections 221 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: and talk about how I threw a pick six against 222 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: Arkan this Louisiana and trying to wrap this thing altogether. 223 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: But I do like the trailing birds fit there. Nice call, yeah, 224 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: no question. Let's get to Cavon Thibodeau an interesting one here. 225 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: We talked about his range this week on Path to 226 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: the Draft. So what about the Lions. They're an interesting 227 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: connection there. Sometimes you like shopping at the same store, 228 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: and you look at the Lions. Last year they went 229 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: and got Penas Seul out of Oregon after a little 230 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: bit of a rocky start, really played well over the 231 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: second half of the season. Well, Piney Sewell is gonna 232 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: have a great relationship with Cavon Thibodau as teammates. Two 233 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: of the higher recruited guys on that Oregon squad. One 234 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: is a pass fresher one as a past protector. I'm 235 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: sure they've seen plenty of one another, not only on 236 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: the field but off the field. So if you needed 237 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: a recommendation, you would not have to travel far. If 238 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: you are sitting there in that Detroit front office, just 239 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: go ask Paul there. It is well, you know, that 240 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: works in front offices. You love to kind of ask 241 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: a team made about a former teammate that is still 242 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: playing in college when draft comes. Pena Seuil can certainly 243 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: give Cavon Thibodeau a glowing recommendation. All right, another guy 244 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: that could be in play there for the lines at 245 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: number two here Buckey, George's Trayvon Walker. Make that connection 246 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: for us. Okay, so now the connection is not necessarily 247 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: as clear. But let's just go back and dig into 248 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: Trent Balky's past. Years ago, Trymbaky drafted Auton Smith. Ano. 249 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Smith was coming off a year at Missouri but wasn't 250 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: his most productive, but when he had impressive traits, arm lengths, size, athleticism. Well, 251 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: now lord behole, Trymbaki and Jacksonville Jaguars have the number 252 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: one overall pick. He is looking at a guy when 253 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: he's watching tape. He sees a Georgia guy just jumping around. 254 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: Then he sees that same Georgia got dominated the combine 255 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: and Trayvon Walker, and so maybe he goes to his 256 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: defensive coaches and ask them if they can maybe bring 257 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: all of that talent and potential to the surface, because 258 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: if they do, they may be getting a All Star 259 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: of the position, which is why he could be connected 260 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars at number one, because he's done this 261 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: rodeo tim er two and every team tries to make 262 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: a book on other teams and other general managers kind 263 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: of what their philosophy, what is their style, what are 264 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: their trends, and that can help you try and navigate 265 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the trade market where or not need to get in 266 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: front of them because they have a certain style. Like 267 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: they knew there was a nine chance today I was 268 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: going to wear a quarters if you just you know, 269 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: the book is out. That book is it's like left 270 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: tackles on edge rushers, right, he keeps a book on 271 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: those guys in the moves that they've used to get 272 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: you in the past. That there, there you go, all right. 273 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: The body shop is open for business, and the Tampa 274 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: Bay Bucks in their little fan is rolling in here 275 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: as we're welcoming back to move the six right, Louis Daniel, 276 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Bucky Brooks ready to go here to try to 277 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: improve some of these teams ahead of this next season. 278 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Bucks. Guys got six draft picks here, 279 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: starting with number twenty seven overall, DJ, what do you 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: think the Bucks could do here to continue to improve 281 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: this team. I'm gonna look at the safety position and 282 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Georgia, and I feel like we 283 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: go to Georgia and shop for just about want defensively. 284 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: But Louis Scene has been a little bit lost in 285 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: the discussion through this draft process. Ran in the four 286 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: threes at the combine, super dynamic, super explosive kind of matches. 287 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: The way that they play there in Tampa would be 288 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: a nice compliment to Antoine Winfield back there. He would 289 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: be a nice compliment. I think, DJ, You're right in 290 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: terms of shopping at Georgia. But let's go to the 291 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: front line, and Jordan Davis is someone that I want 292 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: to talk about because I believe this is a natural 293 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: fit for him to slide in and replace in Dominican Sue. 294 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: You think about being able to put Jordan Davis alongside 295 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Vita Villa, you have two big bodies that are athletic, 296 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: being able to collapse not only the pocket, but destroy 297 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: the running game. That is how Todd Bowls would love 298 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: to play on defense. And if it's not Jordan Davis, 299 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: how about Travis Jonas from Yukon. We saw him dominate 300 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a little bit down in the Senior Bowl. He's another 301 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: guy that would fit the bill in terms of being 302 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: a guy that can play alongside Vidavia on the inside. Yeah, 303 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: we saw how valuable that interior pairing of Vita Villa 304 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue had been stopping the run for the 305 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks in years past. But let's just say, 306 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: let's play double's advocate here, another potential option looking at 307 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: what they lost in the off season, both their starting 308 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: guards Alan Mark pet retires, Alex Cappa moves on to 309 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. They did, real shock. They didn't bring 310 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: him and they stole him. Shack the starting garden. Now 311 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: they got, they got stinting started in the suit in 312 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Forum a couple of years ago. But 313 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: what is Zion Johnson's there at seven as a potential 314 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: replacement for one of those starting spots there for the 315 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. Just something else to consider there for 316 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Let's move to the New Orleans Saints here, 317 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: who made one of the big trades for draft capital 318 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: in the first round, acquiring the sixteenth and nineteen picks 319 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: from the Eagles. In exchange for a whole boatload of 320 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: other picks in future considerations. Guys, they have three in 321 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the top fifty here starting with number sixteen. Then they're 322 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: back on the clock at number nineteen. Bucky, what are 323 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the same thing to do here in the body shop? 324 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: More playmakers? Let's have fun because Sean Payton isn't there. 325 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: It's the chance for Pete Carmichael to show improved that 326 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: he's an outstanding play called and the only way you 327 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: can do that is having more weapons. Chris Oliva being 328 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: able to see with Michael Thomas on the outside, I'd 329 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: like that one two points on the perimeter alive is 330 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: they touchdown aiding to happen, broke the school record for 331 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns at Ohio State. When you watched the tape, you're 332 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: guarantee to see him cross through the painted end zoe 333 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: at least once throughout the viewing session because this is 334 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: what he does. He's a big play waiting to happen. 335 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I want to put him alongside Michael Thomas so Jamis 336 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Whiston can throw the ball down the field early and often. Yeah, 337 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: speaking about gms and teams having a track record, they 338 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: love Ohio State players there with the Saints. So they 339 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: go back and shopping for a live How about if 340 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: you paired up a lava with Trevor Penning a big 341 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: tackle who I think this is about where he comes 342 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: off the board here. I think you've got an opportunity 343 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: to see him plug in. You have a need here 344 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: at the left tackle position. He's got a chance to 345 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: slide right in and play. He's not gonna be the 346 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: same talent that you had at that position, but he 347 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be somebody I think is gonna continue to 348 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: grow and get better, and it's gonna be a running 349 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: backs best friend. With how nasty he is on the 350 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: ground game. I would add, by the way, right, we've 351 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: got to get you in this animation for the body Shop, 352 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I keep waiting for you to slide out underneath the car. 353 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: We gotta get you in. Yeah, no, I think they 354 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: know better. My place is not not underneath the hood 355 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: of a car trying to figure something out there and 356 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: that that that just doesn't fit. Um. You know my profile. However, 357 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: I am kind of curious here in this draft profile 358 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: for the Saints. You know, if if they are truly 359 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: done here after making that move to sixteen and nineteen, 360 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: we talked about it a lot when they made that 361 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: that that trade with the Eagles, was this in an 362 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: effort to kind of make another incremental move up the board, 363 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: And wonder that that's still a curiosity of mine. You 364 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: think that's still in play, guys, a trade up? I don't. 365 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: I think they think like they can go out win 366 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: games with Jamis Winston and they're just a couple of 367 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: key pieces away, and they feel like they had twenty 368 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: players they loved and they're guaranteed to get two of them. 369 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. That's that's certainly one way. Yeah, alright, 370 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: so we're killing the trade conversation. Fine, let's talk about 371 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: some players who had the misfortune of getting injured late 372 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: in their college career or during this draft process, or 373 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, at some points where it affected their production. 374 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams has kind of been the poster child of 375 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: that crew here with this draft class, having torn his 376 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: A c L in the National title game for Alabama. 377 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: Still supremely talented prospect here, But how does the injury 378 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: in the subsequent recovery effect where he could go? Well, 379 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: I think when it's close, the tie goes to the 380 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: healthier players. So when you look at this group of whiteouts, 381 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: I think you could say, okay, maybe you know with 382 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: Drake London or maybe Garrett Wilson, they would be ahead 383 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: of him even if he was healthy. But man, after 384 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that you start looking at the value that he presents 385 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: and knowing he is going to return to full health. 386 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: This is not some catastrophic injury and that he suffered. 387 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty standard. So to me, I think initially maybe 388 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: some shocking like oh he's gonna go bottom one. I 389 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: think now at this point in time, I would expect 390 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: him to go closer to ten than I would for 391 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: him to go. Yeah, he's a talented player and he's 392 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: different than some of the other guys that you watched 393 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: on tape. When this guy puts this from the ground, 394 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: the zero to sixty acceleration puts him in a different category. 395 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: And so yes, you're worried about the injury and the recovery, 396 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: but he is too talented to let slip too far. 397 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: He's the first round talent. Is he the first one 398 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: to come off the board? I don't know, because the 399 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: injuries are part of it, but he deserves to be 400 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: in the first round conversation, for sure. You got no question. 401 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean you just think about I think about where 402 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: he came from at Ohio State, and the other two 403 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Ohio State teammates there that are also going to go 404 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: in the first round, and the one next year, yes, 405 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: probably the one after that, we'll continue to talk about it. 406 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Derek Stingley is an interesting one here, Bucky the cornerback 407 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: who we've talked about, and you know, following that national 408 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: championship run for l s u in En, if he 409 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: could have gone in draft it had been a first rounder, 410 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: then it felt like he was that good. Since then, though, 411 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: injuries production of falling off here a little bit. Where 412 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: do you rank Derek Stingley in terms of wild cards 413 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: in this draft? He's a big wild card because when 414 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: you go in, you watch the film from his freshman year, 415 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about an All Pro player that you're talking about. 416 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: He comes out there, he's probably the first corner taken. 417 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: He has size, he has athleticism, he has all the 418 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: tools to be a great player. The thing that you're 419 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out is which Derek Stingley is going 420 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: to show up when you get him to camping you 421 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: get into the regular season, because the last few to 422 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: the last two years and not being great. Inconsistencies and 423 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: injuries have plagued his play. That's it. When you watch 424 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: him at his Pro day and you go back and 425 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: watch that freshman tape, it's gonna be hard for me 426 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: to think that he's going to drop too far. He's 427 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: just too talented, and that talent is a temptation that 428 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: I don't think many can resist. Yeah, I look at 429 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the boxes, right. So if you've got the talent box, 430 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: check no worries whatsoever. Then you had the health box, 431 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: which before the Pro day was a little unknown. You 432 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: don't know how he's gonna come back from that foot injury. 433 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: While he goes to the Pro day, puts on a 434 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: really good show, so I can check that box. The 435 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: last box for him to check is the fact that 436 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: he was simply disinterested at times. U c l A 437 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: game being the greatest example of that. That one's not 438 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna get checked before the combine, and so that is 439 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: going to decide how high you have him up your board. 440 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Some teams are gonna feel comfortable that twenty nineteen versions 441 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: coming back and they're gonna push him way up. Other 442 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: teams is gonna exercise a little more caution, right, because 443 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: if we're talking about that twenty nineteen player, yeah, it 444 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: might be you know, first would be the first corner 445 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: off the board, even with Sauce Gardner in this draft, 446 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: which I think is is kind of interesting to kind 447 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: of play that game. And then let's talk about David 448 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: a Jabo here from Michigan. You know, just really unfortunate 449 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: obviously at his pro day supper as the rupture to 450 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: kill his tend and hate to see that happen, but 451 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: it's happened before we saw it. With Sidney Jones, was 452 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: a highly rated corner a couple of years ago out 453 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: of Washington, ended up dropping him down a little bit. DJ, 454 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: What does this do for David a Jabo, who we 455 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: all felt like, you know it was a first round 456 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: pick and maybe top fifteen as an ed rusher in 457 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: this class. Well, Sidney Jones would not be the example 458 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: I would use if I was the agent, because we 459 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: never saw that same version of Sidney Jones. He's played 460 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: the NFL, he's been an okay player, but he was 461 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: a much on a much different level when he was healthy. 462 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: I would be pointing to Cam Akers and saying, did 463 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: you watch did you watch him in the last year, 464 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: same injury, he came back. Now he comes back. He 465 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: looked explosive and no time. So that's name you're gonna 466 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: be using if you're a David Ojabo in the David 467 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: Ojabo camp. But to me, he's not great against the run. Um. 468 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: He's still learning, still growing, and then played football that much. 469 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: So you add those two things plus injury, I think 470 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: he goes in the second round. Yeah, I think the 471 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: second round is the right spot for him. Not because 472 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: you talked about the injury, but yeah, it was more 473 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: of a projection. It's easy to make that projection when 474 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: you see him all the time. You're able to see 475 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: him through workouts, he's healthy. But now you have the injury, 476 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: I think you scrutinize them a little more. And because 477 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: of that, he lands in the top fifty as opposed 478 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: to being a guy that we thought might be a 479 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: top twenty selection. Right, And just for the record, I 480 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: was kind of bringing up Sidney Jones just as a 481 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: comparison because it happened at his pro day as well, right, 482 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily as a as a cautionary tale's recovery. There 483 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: you go explain yourself, Rent, just move. The six body 484 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: shop is back open. We put that garage door up 485 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: and we brought the Atlanta Falcons into the shop here, guys, 486 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: and they are one of the big power players on 487 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: the first three rounds of the draft. They got five 488 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: picks in the first two selections. Nobody talks about I know, 489 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: starting with any Let's talk Falcons here and as we 490 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: look at this team, obviously, quarterback is a big part 491 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: of this whole thing with parting ways when that Ryan's 492 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: think him off the Indianapolis signing, Uh, you know Marcus 493 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: Mariota to come in here. But what did they do 494 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: DJ at number eight? Is that a quarterback spot? I 495 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: think it's potential quarterback spot actually, like Kenny Pickett is 496 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: a fit there if they were to trade back. But 497 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: if they're gonna stick and pick I'm gonna go to 498 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: their wide receiver. Need this pretty glaring. I'm gonna go 499 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Drake London, uh to plug him in. And let's let's 500 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: assume Garrett Wilson would be off the board. In this scenario. 501 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: You take Drake London, you can play with I to 502 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: call tall ball. You get out there with with pits 503 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: and now you have Drake London you can just pick 504 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: balls off the head of defenders any matchup you like 505 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, look, that's fun because Drake London is there. 506 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: You can't play big boy ball on the perimeter. But 507 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: let's say you're aforementioned guy is there, and that would 508 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: be Gary Wilson. Gary Wilson, to me, is a very 509 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: natural replacement to Calvin Ridley. Outstanding role, running, great hands, 510 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: does a good job and traffic making things happen when 511 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: he gets the ball in his hands. But let's just 512 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: say that they don't want to go and have fantasy 513 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: football uh draft annalysis. Let's go with a big off 514 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: as like a Capon Thibodeau to really help this football 515 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: team get better close the gap on the company sedition 516 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Tibo Thou gives him a speedbuster off the edge, something 517 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: where they have been able to generate enough pressure of 518 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: late tip of those first step quickness burst long arm moves. 519 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: He has a chance to be a really really good player. 520 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: You put him on a turf, it should also help him. Yeah, 521 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one there, especially if he is available, 522 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: you know at eight, which would mean you know the 523 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: first couple of guys Trayvon Walker and Aidan Hutchinson and 524 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: maybe even Jamaine Johnson ends up going ahead, which would 525 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: which would be an interesting kind of development once we 526 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: get to night one of the draft. All right, guys, 527 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: with that, then let's move into the Carolina Panthers garage 528 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: here another interesting and we'll just see wheel right on 529 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: her night at the HARK. I mean, I could definitely 530 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: put a little top off, top off your windshield wiper 531 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: fluid for sure with that one. All right, let's check 532 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: this out. Six draft picks in this draft, starting with 533 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: number six overall, which is definitely one of the interesting 534 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: ones here, Bucky, where do you think the Panthers end 535 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: up here as we try to get them back on track. 536 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: The quarterback has to be in a discussion, so Kenny 537 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: pick It would be in play there for the Panthers. 538 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Scott Fitter and Matt Rule they have talked about they 539 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: need to line a quarterback. They've talked about drafting a 540 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: quarterback high. When you look at Kenney Pickett, he's one 541 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: of the rare guys that are that's in this class 542 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: with a ton of experience. That experience has led to 543 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: expertise in terms of running an offense. May not have 544 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: a plus arm salent. But in terms of paying the corners, 545 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: he does that very accurate throw with some athleticism. He'd 546 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: be a nice pig there. If not the quarterback, then 547 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: it has to be the offensive line, and I'm thinking 548 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: Ikey Aquanta would be a nice fit considering he's from 549 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: down that way. Yeah, I'm looking at the tackle position 550 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at the scenarios how this could fall. 551 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: I think Evan Neil has got a real shot to 552 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: be there. I think early on the process we thought 553 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: maybe both those top tackles Ikey Akuana would be gone, 554 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Evan Neil would be gone. I think if he is 555 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: thereuld be hard to pass up. It's a glaring need. Again, 556 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, I think they would be a 557 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: team if you could trade back a little bit and 558 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: and maybe get a quarterback plus something else. I would 559 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: put them in that in that discussion as well. But man, 560 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: if you're sitting there and Evan Neil is their huge need, 561 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: good player makes sense. Here's a scenario for you. What 562 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: if the top three edge rushers go one to three. 563 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Think we could see tackles go four or five, six. 564 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: It's conceivable. Yeah, I mean all three of those teams 565 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: have a tackle absolutely and then Bucky, what do you 566 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: think if Carolina decides that quarterbacks not what they want 567 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: to do at six, could you see him move down 568 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: the board here to maybe get some more value out 569 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: of the pick and go quarterback later. Well, no, they 570 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: certainly can do that, but man, they have such a 571 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: glaring need not only a quarterback but at tackle that 572 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: it would be hard for me if I'm may have 573 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: rule to bypass my pick of the litter at tackle 574 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: to kind of get you can gain a couple more picks. 575 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: I think they need to sit and pick, and these 576 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: is a quarterback of the offensive tackle. I would lean 577 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: towards the offense tackle because they gives them an immediate 578 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: joke offense. And then look, the trade down scenario also 579 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: comes into play when you consider that, Yeah, they're on 580 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: the board at six, they're on the clock at six, 581 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: but then we don't see him again the fourth round 582 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: til the fourth round. So if you want to accumulate 583 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: at Electra Capital there, maybe get yourself into Day two, 584 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: second or third rounder by moving down a few spots. 585 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: It could be interesting. And you know, if you get 586 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe get the fourth tackle instead of the 587 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: third tackle or the third tackle instead of the second. 588 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: Just just food for thought here as we look at 589 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: some players that maybe we get on day three, and 590 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: I think those are always interesting here, um in the sticks, 591 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: some deep sleepers. What do you think, DJ, I'm gonna 592 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: go deep deep sleeper here, I'm gonna go Will Allen, 593 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: a corner from Columbia. If the name sounds familiar, it's 594 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: because his dad Will Allen played for a dozen years 595 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL with the Giants, of Dolphins and the Patriots. 596 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: He's an undersized nickel corner, but really is going to 597 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: make his mark as a returner. He's an outstanding returner. 598 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: He's got production. First tape I watched was Georgetown. He 599 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: pops along one. What is it with the cornerbacks and 600 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the bloodlines? I mean, it's like last year we had. 601 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: This year we got it to Derek Stingley has got 602 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: some NFL you know, bloodlines there with his grandfather. So 603 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: all right, Bucky, let's get another player. We got Bucky's buzz, right, 604 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing here? Okay, let's let's what 605 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: you got for. Yeah, that's what we're Yeah, that's what 606 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: we're doing. So let's go down to Tallahassee, Florida. We're 607 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: gonna go to Florida and him. Marky's bell is getting 608 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: a little buzz. Safety six to well pounds, had a 609 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: really impressive performance at the commode. We're ran four or 610 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: five five, had a thirty cents in vertical ten three 611 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: broad jump. But then when you turn him to take 612 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: there's some things that you like. He has stump and 613 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: swipe meny. He can hit you like a big guy 614 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: can drop down in the box. Swifey has six career interceptions, 615 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: five of those his first year down at Florida and him. 616 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of conversation about the HBC used 617 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: producing the NFL draft pick. I think Marky's bill were here, 618 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: his name calling here, his name called somewhere on day three. 619 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: I also played terrible against Fami you and so that's 620 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: what we're doing. Okay, So I guess we've We've got 621 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: Bucky's buzz, We've got in the sticks. When we got 622 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: s reach, I see that. I feel like that's a 623 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: little disser and this is not a player that I 624 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: would disrespect in the least. Talking about Navies Diego Forago, 625 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: we saw him at the Shrine Bowl and look really 626 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: interesting player. He's a great dude to talk to, and look, 627 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: I mean understands the supplant that it takes to succeed 628 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: as a high level player here in the NFL, having 629 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: come from Annapolis. And he told me straight up, he's like, look, 630 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: they don't make all they don't make football players that 631 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: maybe make officers. Um. So the fact that he was 632 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: able to kind of emerge as you know, one of 633 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: the best players for the Midshipman I think is really cool. 634 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: And he has to all. Bucky, you might remember, had 635 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: the biggest hit of the East West Shrine Bowl was 636 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: one that we heard all the way up in the 637 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: booth there to Allegiance. One of the few times I 638 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: would say, Rhet's right on that one. Now there we go. 639 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: Now here's a cunup for you, Bucket. You just spent 640 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: some time with Jeff mounkin um at Army. Right, how 641 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: about a guy that you see in l A with 642 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers, col Christiansen linebacker that came from Army. Kind 643 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: of feels like he's got a little bit of that 644 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: diego for go just coming from the service. Academies love 645 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: to give those guys some love, absolutely nicely done. You 646 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta get a better name. Absolutely, by the way, bucket 647 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: coming next week's big Backs. That's uh, that's next week. 648 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: We were just talking about Brian Robinson talking about Sannaskan. Alright, 649 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: let's go there. I love it. What a big guy. 650 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: All right, So what do we got coming up here? 651 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: We got moved, We've got no this is movie six. 652 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: We got Path in the draft coming up six in 653 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: the Eastern time. Let's go. We're gonna get you the 654 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: draft prospects that are gonna be in attendance at the 655 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Draft this year in Las Vegas. It's all coming up 656 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: for you. We'll see. It's six. I'm Colleen Wolfie.