1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome too round. This is a pro 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: wrestling podcast with a hinge of pop culture. Join Battle 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: in Eli as they break down the world of professional wrestling. 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna stop by now making their 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: way to the microphone. Get it up for the greatest 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: podcast tack team in the world. Battle and El. 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Al right, I love when we get to record. And 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out like that opening catchphrase 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: that will be like the weekly thing to say. I 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: haven't figured it out yet though. 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, coming up with that is like the million dollar idea. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you can come up with that clean 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: maybe no one else is using it kind of a catchphrase. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the billion dollar idea there. 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: But eventually we will figure it out. But in the meantime, 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: welcome to the Battleground Podcast. I'm your host Battle along 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: with my co host Eli. Hello, and this is a 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: wrestling podcast where each week we talk about wrestling. In 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: today's episode is well it's Friday's episode, which means we 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: have a guest on the show, and we do have 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: an amazing guest on the show. If you would like 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: to know who it is, Eli can tell you all 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: about this guy. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he has had a pretty wild career, bounced 25 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: between WW at the time, F and WCW. He was, 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: if you remember, back in the early nineties, the Mounteam 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: from Canada. He was the Inner Continental Champion. At one 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: time he was paired up with him and they were 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: the Quebecers as a tag team, and then he went 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to WCW, and then he was back in WW for 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: during like the right when the attitude Ara was really 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: ramping up, and then he kind of went to the 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: indies and then he actually retired for a while, and 34 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: then a couple of years ago, around the age of fifty, 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: he decided to come back out of retirement. And I 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: saw him last year at Joey Janelli's spring Break in 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: New Orleans during WrestleMania Weekend, and he fought Walter, who 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: is the WW United Kingdom Champion at the moment, and 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: it was I think I put it as the number 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: two match of my twenty eighteen that I saw in person, 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Like it was just I don't think anyone was expecting 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: these two huge dudes to do what they did, especially 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the gentleman on our show today. So but he is 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: now signed to Ring of Honor and he's part of 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: Villain Enterprises and the interview is a PCO. 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: And just a quick little spoiler alert, I did ask 47 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: him in the interview about his retirement, and he actually 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: returned the question and said, I never retired. I just 49 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: walked away. I never had a retirement match or anything 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: like that. He was just doing radio. So spoiler alert. 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: You'll find out about that more later in the show. 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: But the one thing that we all want to talk about, 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: which we all thought was a work, was the fact 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: that Jericho lost his ae W title, And we everybody 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: thought it was a work because you saw the thing 56 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: from Tampa and it was like at a longhorn and 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, this literally sounds like something is setting up 58 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: for TV tape. 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. My buddy said the same thing, the 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: one I sent you the picture of in his Macho 61 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Man cosplay. Yes, to me, I'd never I never kind 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: of felt, well, okay, just reading the black and white, yes, 63 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: it sounds just ludicrous. I mean it sounds like something 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you'd see on WCWN, like nineteen ninety nine or something. 65 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: But I just didn't think they would do something that 66 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: wild with no TV you know, like they're just it 67 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: would just be on like a online on Twitter and 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Instagram and stuff, so it just seemed kind of weird. 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: And then once you started seeing the official posts from 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: like you know, the police departments down in Florida they 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: were actually doing the investigation, You're like, oh crap, this 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: is like legit. So I think they kind of played 73 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: it off pretty well. You know, it was more of 74 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: a you know, not really a black guy. Maybe give 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit of a bruise, but it wasn't like, yeah, 76 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: the end of the world or anything. But it definitely 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: added some comedy to the to the week after Jericho 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: became the first aw World champion. 79 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's it's you know, it kind of 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: looked like something that they would do. But I think 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: the best thing is all the memes that came after, 82 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: like Jericho is like being very fun with it and 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: the title dropping and the whole bubbly thing, and it's 84 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: funny to watch these things. But like you said, it 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: is kind of it does kind of give them a 86 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: little bit of a black guy going into TV tape, 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: especially when mxt's announcing, Hey, we're doing TV tapings. But 88 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: the first hours on TV the second hours on the network, 89 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: which is very weird in my pick. 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was right in the middle of 91 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: something at work when you sent me that, so I 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: didn't really process it. But then once I grasped what 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: it was, that's just so strange, Like that's I don't know, 94 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like from from the standpoint of kind of 95 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: misleading people to an extent. You know, they said it 96 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: was a two hour show in the USA network. They 97 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: didn't say one hour and then one hour on the network, 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know, it's very I've never 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: seen anything like that. It's just I don't know how 100 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: many people are gonna like stop watching television and then 101 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: hop over to the net, Like they could have just 102 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: kept it on the network or put both two hours. 103 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I really I don't know. 104 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: And you know, and I was looking at the photo 105 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like they're doing that for like 106 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: two dates. And I think, you know, especially being in 107 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: the media business, I think what they're doing with that 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: is just seeing how many people switch over during that 109 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: second hour to the network. I mean, because that way 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: they could see, you know, who was watching aw or whatnot, 111 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: even though it's before AW and seeing who switches from 112 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: the app to you know, or the TV from the 113 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: app and see where their viewership goes. But I mean, 114 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: who knows. It's a it's a very bold move on 115 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: their part. I don't know how that's gonna be. 116 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking it was something like that or 117 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: maybe when they you know, because they it felt very 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: rushed obviously, they were really trying to get this out 119 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: before AW debuted, So I was thinking, well, maybe USA 120 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: had something lined up for the second hour of you know, 121 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks, so maybe that's what 122 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: they're doing and then it'll just all be two hours 123 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: or something. But yeah, very very odd. I don't know. 124 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, like we've talked about before on 125 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the shows, it's it is an exciting time to be 126 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: a wrestling fan because there's so many options. But that 127 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: that is a very interesting move on their part. But 128 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: something that we didn't get to talk about on Monday, 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: which we normally do, because this week we kind of 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: reviewed a W's all out, we didn't get a chance 131 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: to jump into our Battleground weekly challenge and we still 132 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: gotta I gotta figure out some kind of sound of 133 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: effect that we could play during this time. But I 134 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: think you have something cute up. I'm feeling it. There 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: we go. Well, I mean. 136 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: If that wasn't so specific to one person, that would work. Yeah, 137 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I'll find I'll find it something. 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: Which kind of crazy thing about John Cena. I know 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm getting off topic, but randomly Johnsena followed me on 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Twitter last weekend. 141 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Nice. 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Not sure how or why that happened, but anyways, I 143 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: did slide into his DMS to ask him if you'd 144 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: come on the show. Nice just putting that out there 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: in the universe. But yeah, I get back on Trek. 146 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember if I told you. Rick Flair followed 147 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: me a couple of years ago, and you know, screenshot 148 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: at it and I didn't. I wasn't following him at 149 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the time, so I followed him back and then three 150 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: weeks later he unfollowed me. He was like, oh, well, okay, 151 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: so it was it was nice for I lasted. 152 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: But now that we were getting off top of let's 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: get back on topic. The Battleground Weekly Challenge. We put 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: two wrestlers up against each other, both of them in 155 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: their prime. It could be passed, it could be president, 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: it could be future or whatever. And this week we 157 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: actually kind of talked about this for a little bit 158 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: on the previous show that we did last week. Uh, 159 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: the American Dream Dusty Rhodes versus Samoa Joe two of 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: the U. I guess the big guys mh. Well on 161 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: the mic, great great workers. So let's kind of jump 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: in this real quick before we get into this interview 163 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: with pco. Let's break it down, Eli, what are you 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: thinking on this match? 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I am a I'm a recent convert for some OJO. 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't watch him a ton and impact, 167 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't know a lot about that. 168 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Once he came to n XT and he beat Finn 169 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: for the belt, I kind of started going back and 170 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: definitely have a much bigger appreciation for him now than 171 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I did again. It kind of goes back to when 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: this like which time period we would be pulling from, 173 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you were going you know, nineteen seventy 174 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: nine Dusty Rhodes, he just that anniversary was just celebrated, 175 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: was a fortieth anniversary of him beating I think Harley 176 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: Race actually for the NWA World title. You know, if 177 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: you if you put him up against like the current Samojo, 178 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: who seems to just lose every time. I mean not 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: every time that he's had a couple of, but like 180 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: the big pay per view matches, like I don't remember 181 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: the last time he won. He did Squash raym Stereo WrestleMania. 182 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean, I think, I mean 183 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: all the AJ style stuff when he felt brock, like 184 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing with him. So, like 185 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: if it was those two time periods, I definitely would 186 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: give it to Dusty. If it was you know, ninety 187 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: three Dusty where he's in the polka dots and you know, 188 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: all that crap. And then if you were looking at 189 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: either the next t Simojo or you know, some of 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: his stuff an impact, I'd probably give it to Somemojo. So, 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: but the big thing with Dusty is he's not a 192 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: to me when you and when you're talking about like 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time and we you know, at 194 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: one point we were talking about the Mount Rushmore or 195 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: wrestlers and all that stuff. 196 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: You know. 197 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: He he he was so creative and influential behind the scenes, 198 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, with with booking matches, and there's even a 199 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: term called the Dusty finish because of you know, his creativity. 200 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, you created war games. I want to say 201 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: he did Stark Starkad two, either Starkad or Class of 202 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: the Champions. Those were his Bash of the Beach. I 203 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: mean a lot of these well known you know, events 204 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: and matches and all this kind of stuff that's all 205 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: from his brain. 206 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: You know. 207 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: So when you when you include that stuff with him 208 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: as a wrestler, I mean you he probably is easily 209 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: in the you know, top five, at least top ten, 210 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, Simoejoe is just an incredible modern wrestler, excellent 211 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: on the mic. He can move really well for a 212 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: big guy. But I think if you calculate the behind 213 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: the scenes stuff too, I think Dusty has the slight 214 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: advantage on that one. 215 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know Colby on our Facebook set a 216 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: best Dusty would win. But Dusty would also put Joe over. Yeah, 217 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: just watching the match, it. 218 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: Would definitely kind of be like him versus AJ, where 219 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: AJ you know, beat him, but he definitely put it 220 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: put Joe over so. 221 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: Right. And then of course looking at some of the 222 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: other comments on our Facebook You've got Chris that said 223 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: the bionic the bionic elbow triumphs overall, Plus Dusty is 224 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: the Bull of the woods, So I mean it's it 225 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: would be. It's gonna be a really good match when 226 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: it comes down to it. It's gonna be uh not 227 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: a lot of spots, but it's gonna be technical. It's 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: gonna be some big moves. Of course, you're gonna see 229 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: the bionic elbow in there. Do I see one of 230 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: them getting busted open in the match? More than likely? Yes, 231 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 2: I mean Dusty was always known to kind of get 232 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: busted open. Samoa Joe can get busted open, so I 233 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: don't see it being a very bloody match, but I 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 2: see eventually somebody do getting busted up open here in 235 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: the match. I do see Joe getting him with the 236 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: Koquina clutch, and of course Dusty being a great storyteller 237 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: in the ring, which you know translate to both of 238 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: his boys, Dusty will sell the crap out of that 239 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: Coquina clutch. 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 241 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: The thing that I think would be cool about this 242 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: one is that it would definitely be It would definitely 243 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: be like an old school type of match, obviously Dusty 244 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: being old school, but I mean Simoe Joe just he 245 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: strikes me as somebody that could have been popular in 246 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: eighty nine, ninety nine, two thousand and nine, twenty nineteen, whatever, 247 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I could see him fitting in, you know, 248 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, him and Dusty. I mean, I could 249 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: see that match happening, and it wouldn't be that. 250 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: Out of place, you know. 251 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I think they're both from more of the old school 252 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: ways and more you know, storytelling in psychology and all 253 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So so that one, I don't know, 254 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: this might be our our best pairing for the challenge. Honestly, 255 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Like these two I think would compliment each other so well. 256 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean maybe AJ and Shawn Michaels would be another 257 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: one that was really good. 258 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I would. I would put the A 259 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: J Shawn Michaels in this too, on the same pay 260 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: per view, just throwing that out there, but. 261 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that I I think I would still have to 262 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: give it to Dusty when it's all said and done, 263 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: But like I could see it. I could see it 264 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: being a like Star Cast and Joe's the hill champ 265 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: and Dusty, you know, working man, he challenges him and 266 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: then he he wins it at the biggest there you know, 267 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: at the time, w CW's biggest thing of the year. 268 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: So I think that would we can only we can 269 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: only dream, but I think that would have been a 270 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: good match. 271 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you said, Dusty comes in babyface Joe 272 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: the Hill, Dusty wins the match, and I would say 273 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: that at the very end of it, if I'm booking 274 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: this match, you know, Dusty's hands raised, Joe's pissed off, 275 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: hits him in a Kakina clutch, and then he's Dusty's 276 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: just kind of laying there, passed out until somebody comes 277 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: in to save him, whether it be his kids or 278 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 279 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Somebody somebody. 280 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, So if you'd like to jump in 281 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: and voice your opinion on this week's challenge us up 282 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: on our Instagram. You can find us on Instagram. It's 283 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Battleground Podcast on Instagram Facebook just search Battleground Pod. You 284 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: could jump in on there like us and comment. But 285 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: uh yeah, So next week's show, we could have some 286 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: a lot of fun. It could be a very killer show. 287 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: That could be a segue into who could be our guest. 288 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: We're still kind of working. 289 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Killing k is gonna be on the show with us. 290 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Killer Kowalski is gonna be on the show. 291 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: With us. 292 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: I think he did well. 293 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: We'll get a. 294 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: Psychic and we'll do a seance and then. 295 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's play with that. 296 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, so next week's show should be a 297 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: killer show, and of course we'll have Monday show we'll 298 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: kind of recap everything that's going on into wrestling. I 299 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: did see something though that was very interesting and we 300 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: can kind of talk about this on Monday. A certain 301 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: venue kind of prematurely announced who was gonna win a 302 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: Clash of the champions, and uh, I think I'm okay 303 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: with this person winning their match, but that's not today's 304 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: show topic. We will talk about that on Monday show. 305 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, so once again Pco is on the show, 306 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: and uh a quick little story. He had spent days 307 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: in WWF, WCW, back and forth through indies. Now he 308 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: signed with the Ring of Honor. He's part of the 309 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Villain Enterprises, which he did not get to wrestle the 310 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: night we went to Ring of Honor because what he 311 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: got what sixteen staples or stitches. 312 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: In his het er, so yeah, something and then he 313 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: kind of he had a spot he you know, fought 314 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: the security guards or whatever and jumped through a table 315 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: and all that Jazz. So he did make an appearance, 316 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: but we didn't get to see him fight unfortunately. 317 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Which, uh, if you go back and watch Ring of Honor, 318 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: you will spot some very familiar faces that are a 319 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: part of SUP that were the security guards for Ring 320 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: of Honor. 321 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: Then yeah, oh shay osha oh sha. 322 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: And the great thing is, like everybody was cheering him 323 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: on during that whole fake. 324 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: Well, the rumor was he so so he he's done 325 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: some training with at their whatever they call it. It 326 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: may be called the Honor Dojo or I can't remember 327 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: what it's called. I'm not gonna google it. But anyways, 328 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: so they were thinking that he might wrestle one of 329 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: the opening matches or you know, be involved or something, 330 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: and and that didn't happen unfortunately. So it was cool 331 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: that he was at least involved with the show. But 332 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, piggybacking off what you said, I mean, if 333 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: you get chance, I would, uh, I would encourage you 334 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: to google Walter versus p c O at uh spring 335 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: If you put in Joe Janella's Spring Break twenty eighteen, 336 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the you're in for just something wild. I mean Pco's 337 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: chest was purple and brown when it was over because 338 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: Walter's chops. 339 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just. 340 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: And and the funny thing was is the spring break 341 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: for those that don't know. And I don't know if 342 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen again because he's in A and W now, 343 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: but Joe Janella would always do an event during the 344 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: WrestleMania weekend. 345 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: The first year that they did it, he fought Marty Jeanetty, 347 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: so that was funny. And then last year he had 348 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: a pack card. Uh who was Nick Gage? Was there? Pinta? 349 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: It's actually a ne gauge against uh penta uh Penta 350 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: zero from the Lucher Brothers, PCO Walter Janella. I want 351 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: to say, I think Orange Cassie was there as well. Anyways, 352 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: the event started at midnight, so we saw the PCO 353 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Walter match like two in the morning, so we were tired. 354 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: I don't think we were expecting it. And then just 355 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, one of the matches of the year 356 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: happens and you're just like, holy shit. So so yeah, 357 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: you know, if you have any reservations about him been 358 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: in his fifties, I mean, just go watch that match 359 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: and you'll be like, Okay, this guy can still go. 360 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, so, and he actually talks about in detail 361 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: about his match with Walter in the interview. So with 362 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: that being said, we're saying goodbye. I'm not trying to 363 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: figure out a catchphrase to end the show, but yeah, 364 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: we're just gonna say. 365 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Bye, righty bye. Yeah, we'll see you Monday. 366 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: See you Monday, We'll talk to you. Then here's the 367 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: interview with PCO. Let's get ready to rumble on the 368 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: show with us today right now. Part of the villain 369 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: enterprises a guy that pretty much gives me nightmares when 370 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: I watch his stuff on TV. PCO is on the 371 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: phone with us. Thank you so much for coming on 372 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: the show with us today. 373 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 3: Hey, no problem, battle. How do you feel? 374 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm pretty good. I didn't have a nightmare last night, 375 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: but then maybe I didn't watch a PCO wrestling match 376 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: before I went to bed, So I think that's a 377 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 2: good thing. 378 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: Right, Well, you can order your PCO jumper cable. That's 379 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: going to help. You know, you need some electricity, you know, 380 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: you just jump start yourself on your car battery. 381 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: You know, I think that could be the plan. So 382 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: let's kind of let's kind of go back to the 383 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: very beginning. How did you get into wrestling. 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Wrestling was like when I was a kid. I mean, 385 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, something I drove my attention to it, 386 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: Like I was getting ready from Canada, was getting to 387 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: go to some hockey practices when I was like eight 388 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: nine ten, and I would always watch TV and early. 389 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 5: In that morn every morning, like early on the weekends, 390 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 5: they would always have replays of restling shows and I 391 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 5: would get hooked on that TV. 392 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 6: You know. 393 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: So it was something I don't know. And eventually I 394 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: went to some live shows and just to see the 395 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: ring with that light over the ring and everybody gathering 396 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: around the ring, and I was just looking all around it, 397 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: just in the ring, just trying to feel the whole thing. 398 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 3: And I said to myself, Yeah, since me, this is me. 399 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: So I never I never really had other plans then 400 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: becoming a great world champion one day. 401 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: And you kind of talk about being a world champion. 402 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: Let's kind of go back. So in nineteen ninety three 403 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: you joined the Mounty and the WWFS the Quebecers defeating 404 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: the Steiners for the world titles. What was it like 405 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: working for Vince during I guess the so called cartoon era. 406 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right after the Golden Age era and 407 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: right before the Attitude era. So yeah, it was it 408 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: wasn't all right for the Quebecers because we're in we 409 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: were not touched that much with the cartoon era. They 410 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: just decided, I think it was more ninety four ninety five. 411 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: I got into nineteen ninety three, it was starting to 412 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 3: get you know, a little bit kind of bad, if 413 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: I can say, because they had like, you know, they 414 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: would like do the dumpster drosy a garbage man, and 415 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: then doing the clown and then just the things that 416 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: didn't appeal that much to people. So but the Quebecers 417 00:22:54,040 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: we were really over because we were like the the 418 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: Mounty Police from Canada. So, uh the Royal Mounty Police 419 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: from Canada. So it's like you see them all over 420 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 3: the place, you know, and in different movies or series 421 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: and TV series and things like that, they're always have 422 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: the bad, bad reputations or they always kind of ruined 423 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: the party somewhere somehow. And uh so that was us 424 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: and then, uh, I think that was a great time 425 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: because we came up with great combos of moves and 426 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: set moves and we really did innovate a lot and 427 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: wrestling as a tag team. Uh we became a tag 428 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: team Specialists and uh so we became three times the 429 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: World Tag Team Champions. W debut, So it was. 430 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 4: That was good, you know, but it's. 431 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: It was really good. But I always wanted to make 432 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: it on my own and to be the next Aulcleganer, 433 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 3: to be the Nicks, Steve Austin over, the next you know, 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: big thing. So that was always like the dream, the 435 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: goal that I've been like chasing all my life. Man. 436 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: It's and it's so cool to see kind of how 437 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: your career has gotten to the point now. And it's 438 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: such an honor to have you on the phone. Pco 439 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: is with us on the phone. Let's kind of jump 440 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 2: forward a couple of years after that. We're gonna kind 441 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: of just go through your career. So back in I 442 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: guess what, maybe ninety six you jumped to WCW. What 443 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: was the biggest difference between WWF and WCW during that 444 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: time for you? 445 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: Well, and the big difference was, like for me, it 446 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: took me like ninety five, like two and a half years. 447 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: I kind of felt like I was home with ww 448 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 3: Like I kind of I knew I had like a 449 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: bunch of meetings with SIMS. I've felt comfortable with Vince 450 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: mc man. I felt like he was taking care of me. 451 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 3: He he's uh, he was having meeting with me, he 452 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: was calling me on the phone, you know whatever it 453 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: was up in the air or something, or needed me 454 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: to replace someone on a specific show or things like that. 455 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: I felt like it took me like almost three years 456 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: to build up that relationship, and I felt like going 457 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: to the w CW, didn't know where Rigbyshoff that much, 458 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: didn't know Kevin Sultan that much. I just felt like 459 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: I had to, uh, you know, redo all all that 460 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: road again with a different company. And I knew a 461 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: lot of talents, you know, with Vince. That was a 462 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: lot of different talents over there in the w CW. 463 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: So it was not in my plans to to go there, 464 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: but situations happened and had to go. U try to. 465 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: I tried to make the best out of it, but 466 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: I just felt like it wasn't then. It wasn't It 467 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: wasn't my heart. It wasn't by choice certainly, So that's 468 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 3: why I think it wasn't as successful as it was 469 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: in WWE. 470 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: Let's kind of keep going on about your career because 471 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: I want to know about this. So, you know, you 472 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: retired and then was it twenty sixteen you came back. 473 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: What was the driving factor for resuming your wrestling career? 474 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Well, actually I never really retired. I was doing like 475 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: a radio interview like this that was live at studio 476 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: and host asked me, you know, what was going on 477 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: over my wrestling career, and I just just told them 478 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: off the bat. But it was like nine in the morning. 479 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: It was really wake up and everything. I was awake. 480 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: And I told him in twenty eleven that much was 481 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: going on only WWE and the rest was like a 482 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: little bit. In Europe. You know, you could make a tiny, 483 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: really poor kind of living in Europe. You can live 484 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: off of wrestling, but you can do much in life, 485 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: you know, And you're on the road seven days a week, 486 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: and then you can travel around a little bit, you know, 487 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: Germany and things like that, make some money here and there, 488 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: but it's not like full time. I mean, good territories 489 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: like now today. You got Ring of Honor, you got 490 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: all the need, you got ww you got NXT, a 491 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 3: bunch of brand you know. 492 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 4: UK NXT in the estate you got also, I know, 493 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: you've got so many companies that are tempeted and that 494 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 4: can pay money where you can make a good living 495 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: now and wrestling. 496 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: So in twenty eleven, all the doors closed. Like I 497 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: have had tried like every you know, I've been like everywhere. 498 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 3: I've had like a few meetings with ww and it 499 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: looked like they weren't ready to give me a chance 500 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: or anything. So so and then I think, I think 501 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty done, you know, so, but it was never 502 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: like in my mind, it was never accepted, you know, 503 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: just just kind of felt like that. So I just 504 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: said that, and it went all over the place Wikipedia 505 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: and things like that that I retired from wrestling, but 506 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: I never actually took a retirement match. I never made 507 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: publicity out of it. So and then I was doing 508 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: some reports. 509 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 6: For the raw, you know, like predictions and reports on 510 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 6: afterwards and post report and things like that. 511 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: And I was doing the same for some pay per 512 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: views for a friend of mine. I was got a 513 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: website or wrestling website where it's got news and things 514 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: like that, and so my every videos that was making 515 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: poppler and poplar. And then eventually promoters started to reach 516 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: out to me and then Okay, I'm going to do 517 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: one match and then you know the whole time that 518 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: from twenty eleven to twenty sixteen, I never like stopped 519 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: like I did present in ju jitsu and the Tyrannic Kishin. 520 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: I was doing trampoline course with private coaches and things 521 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: like that, so I was keeping busy. I was keeping 522 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: in shape, and the eventually the indie territories really popped. 523 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: They really did popped out, like quite a lot in 524 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: the States. They became really popular. People could afford to 525 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: fly and guys they could afford to pay them the money. 526 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: And then I went to Indiana for Michael Blatton. In 527 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: Indiana it was called Black Label Pro. When Joey Janada 528 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: was there, saw me performing against all Ego Eaton Paige 529 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: and everybody was going away by the match, and you 530 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: know that asked me if I wanted to be part 531 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: of WrestleMania thirty four for the WrestleMania weekend at the 532 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: Georgia LA Spring Break Too, which was like one of 533 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: the big buzz in wrestling at the time. Georgia L Won, 534 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: spring Break Won the two was also a big buzz. 535 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: It was me versus Walter who got signed last year 536 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 3: by nxt UK. He's a champion right now and we 537 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: tore the house down. And since then and right after that, 538 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: I was in demand over the country, over the States, 539 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: over Kent, over Europe, and I was working like four 540 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: days a week full time, and and a lot of 541 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: companies made me an offer. Around about November last year. 542 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: I was every company's every important companies in the mark 543 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: the business today maybe an offer And I've chosen Ring 544 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 3: of Honor because I thought they had been there for 545 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: the last seventeen years and it was going to be 546 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: huge openings and it was going to be a good 547 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: place for me. I thought too, And I had a 548 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: good feeling after the meeting. When I came out of 549 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: my meeting, you felt like, you know, it was the 550 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: people that I wanted to work with. 551 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: You know, one thing, it's pretty awesome to hear you 552 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: talking about just how things have exploded for you, and 553 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: I kind of want to go back to what you're 554 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: talking about spring Break last year. You know, I was 555 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: at that show and your match with Walter was probably 556 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: one of the best matches I've ever seen live. 557 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: It was something something special around this match. I mean, 558 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: it was it was the you know, like when you 559 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: walk into the ring and people don't care that much. 560 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 3: And half way through the match, everybody on the on 561 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: their toes and their cheering less than right and going 562 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: crazy all the way to the end of the match 563 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: or one of those match, and they did the magic 564 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: that happens during that night. I mean, you're you're not 565 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 3: going to find that very often. It's it was just 566 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: a very very special evening because I had to work 567 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: all my life for a moment like that, all my 568 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: entire career, and you know, the way that everything came 569 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: through was like, Okay, I was not even supposed to 570 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: make it to Indiana to meet Joy to wrestle eaton 571 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: Page because my flight was delayed six hours. I barely 572 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: made it, and then I got there fifteen minutes before 573 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: the show. And then eventually I meet with Joey, who 574 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: is partner with Danny dementto with someone that I can't 575 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: even recognize anymore, and we had traveled together in two 576 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: thousand and seven, and he liked me a lot. So 577 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: he was like, what Joey said, I want to book 578 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: PC against Walter, And he knew me too, and he 579 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 3: liked me as a person. He says, there, let's go. 580 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great. So I had 581 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: like three or four good person behind that project that 582 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: we're pushing for me, and they said, well, we can't 583 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: really afford to pay you a flight ticket and I 584 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 3: had to drive there. It was like forty hours, oh 585 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: you know, and I drove there and back and forth 586 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: for the one twenty five minute match. And so it's 587 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: because I believed in myself so much. I knew, you know, 588 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 3: it was going to be something special, and it was 589 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: something special. But it was everything that I had envisioned. 590 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 3: But for a long time, and I was always wondering 591 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: one that night would come around, and one that one 592 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: that night would come about. I was dreaming about it. 593 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: That was visual, visual, visual realizing that event that that about, 594 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 3: and and the reaction of the crowd, and it was 595 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: everything that I was expecting. Finally came to reality that 596 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: night and the uh since then, I mean, there were 597 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 3: so many things that I thought that I did in 598 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: my life that were going down the drain that I 599 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: thought they served me for nothing, that I thought it 600 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: was a total waste of time. Like two thousand and seven, 601 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, I was in England, I met 602 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: Barti Skill, I met Nick Aldi and I ever thought 603 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 3: I would have seen those guys again, and here I 604 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: am with Marty Skill until in enterprises. It's pretty life. 605 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's pretty crazy, man, the hazards, the way things happen. 606 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes we think we're doing something and nothing good's going 607 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: to come out of that, But a few years after 608 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 3: everything pops out or was a reason for it. I mean, 609 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: I can see it in my life. It did happened 610 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: a few times over the last few years, and I'm very, 611 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: very grateful for the way that things are evolving right now. 612 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned talking about great things happening. By 613 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: the way, PCO is on the phone with us currently 614 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: right now, not only are you the six man tag 615 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: champ in ROH, you're also the world tag team champs 616 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: on NWA. What's it like being a part of a champion, 617 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: being a part of champions of two storied promotions during 618 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: this modern resurgence of wrestling? 619 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: End of you always growing also very hard? I mean, uh, 620 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: their their hell of a company too, and then and 621 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: what happened with n w A. I think they're there 622 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: is story so legendary. I mean, if you look at 623 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: the situation on the Crocket Cup, the cup that we 624 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: Want and UH in Virginia this year during this tournament, 625 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: only three other teams that won the Crocket Cup. It 626 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 3: was Road Warriors, Lexuber Interesting and Nick Takholoff and Dusty Roads. 627 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 3: So you add to that Brodie King and PC Overlain Enterprises. 628 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's four teams. That it's cool to 629 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 3: be part of those four team. You know, it's a 630 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: it's very historical winning the Tag belts. Well, you know, 631 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 3: the Road Warriors were the kings of those belts. So 632 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: and many other teams like I just named a few, 633 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 3: but it was like other great tag teams that came 634 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: out of NWA. So it's like their world title. You know, 635 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: it's ten pounds of gold. It is so historical with 636 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 3: the Rick Clair and the Dusty Rose and all those names. 637 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 3: So restling for NWA, that's what it's really cool. It's 638 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: all the history reattached to this company and they they 639 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: know how to make it. They continue the tradition so 640 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: to speak now with their new TV tapings and things 641 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 3: like that. So well, to be able to defend those 642 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 3: titles for NWAS, that's great. 643 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: That's another honor, man, and it's such an honor to 644 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: have you on the phone. PCO is on the phone 645 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: with us, so real quick before I'll let you go. 646 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: Where can fans keep up with you on social media. 647 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: App my major platform, PCOS Not Human on Twitter and 648 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 3: from there you have access to by other media platforms 649 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: by Facebook, my Instagram and my YouTube channel, so everything 650 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: is linked there on Twitter. So just follow me on 651 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: Twitter at PCOS Not Human. And also I think we 652 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 3: cannot forget to talk about Madison Square Garden that happened 653 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: this year where it was sold out twenty two thousand 654 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: people and we were defending the roh World. Thank the 655 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 3: tyle time me and Rudy King PC. 656 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for staying out with us today. 657 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 3: Yeah that Bostly, thank you so much. 658 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 7: We hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Battleground. Make 659 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 7: sure you give it five stars and leave a nice review. 660 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 7: If you want to stay up today, follow them at 661 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 7: Battleground Podcast on Instagram.