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Speaker 1: The National Football League off season is just full of change.

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Speaker 1: We know that coaches players rosters, some rosters turn over

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Speaker 1: by as much as fifty percent, but sometimes it also

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Speaker 1: means a renaissance, or a coming back or a homecoming.

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Speaker 1: Eric the Enemy is back in the chief Kingdom. This

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Speaker 1: episode of Defending the Kingdom as all of them are

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Ticketmaster, your new best friend, as

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Speaker 1: you glance ahead to twenty twenty six and figure out

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Speaker 1: how they can be your best friend.

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Speaker 2: Homes in the pocket will step up.

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Speaker 3: You'll scrabble ten fores, diving, touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Chances, sitting everyone.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mitch hold his Voice of the Chiefs, along with

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Speaker 1: senior team reporter Matt McMullen. He's back, Eric the Enemy

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Speaker 1: is back, and very soon we're going to have a

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Speaker 1: chat with Eb.

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Speaker 2: But there is I sent some excitement.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the Chiefs Kingdom that EB is back in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is exciting. We've been talking about it a

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Speaker 4: lot over the last few days. But you think about

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Speaker 4: the things that make EB such a great coach, right,

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Speaker 4: It's things like a mentality of finishing. It's a certain

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Speaker 4: accountability that he expects from his players. It's how he

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Speaker 4: kind of gets the best out of everyone. And if

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Speaker 4: you look back over his time with the Chiefs and

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Speaker 4: certainly as time as offensive coordinator, look at some of

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Speaker 4: seeing what he can get out of this roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're going to make some additions in the offseason, going

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Speaker 4: and foremost to see what he can get out of

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Speaker 4: the players that are currently here. How can he help

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Speaker 4: these players take their game to the next level. We'll

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Speaker 1: We love as fans to look at the game numerically,

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Speaker 1: if we're playing Madden And honestly, this is a very

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Speaker 1: and you cannot discount toughness and discipline. And that is

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Speaker 1: the two main things in my opinion, that Eric Bnemy

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Speaker 1: brings to the Kansas City Chiefs. He had it, took

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Speaker 1: eb about all those steps of where he has been

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Speaker 1: he also left here with a couple of Super Bowl rings.

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Speaker 1: But you cannot discount or displace toughness and discipline in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. We're going to get into that here,

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Speaker 1: even in some areas where we can break it down

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Speaker 1: there are two characteristics of the two teams right now

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Speaker 1: it is the fact that they come across as two

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because those are the margins. Everyone in the NFL

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Speaker 4: And that's what vrabel has been so good at with

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Speaker 4: And frankly, the Chiefs for years and years were that team,

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Speaker 4: even if it's not the most fun all the time, right,

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Speaker 1: Be, And the run of seven straight AFC championship games

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Speaker 1: There has been more discipline and toughness there than meets

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into some ways where that discipline,

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Speaker 4: Glad we have some around the worlds. We had zero

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first time. I don't want to say we don't

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Speaker 1: There's zeros around the league that are in my head.

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Speaker 4: But so well, we have three today.

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Speaker 2: We're back to.

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Speaker 1: Yon Stentery, one of the numbers that is retired. You

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have Chris checking in from Saint George, Utah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, home of Utah. No, it's Utah Tech. I think.

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Speaker 4: in Blue Springs. All right, Yeah, Blue Springs.

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Speaker 4: And then lastly, Penny is listening from Lincoln, Missouri. Familiar

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Speaker 4: Well, Lincoln Missouri, Penny, let me know if I got

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Speaker 4: watching super Bowl fifty four to fifty seven and fifty

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Speaker 1: What I've liked about this is I'm working on some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the best way to change is on your own volition.

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Speaker 4: And here's a stat that kind of accentuates that. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: not on Nags necessarily because people say, well, that's all

438
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Speaker 1: on Matt Naggy. And I'm not going to say it's

439
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Speaker 1: all for Eric Banneman, all against Matt Naggy. But it's

440
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Speaker 1: just a point to be taken throughout for to ponder,

441
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Speaker 1: because Matt's very discipline. But the fact is four hundred

442
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: and fifty five yards in offensive penalties alone. Now each

443
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: one hundred yards of penalty yard each equals seven points. Right,

444
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: it's a way to look at it, and away a

445
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: lot of football coaches at every level looks at it.

446
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Four hundred and fifty five yards equals thirty one and

447
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: a half points. Man, now you're not going to have

448
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: zero penalties. But if you did well, keep in mind,

449
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: now seven or eleven losses where by three points or less.

450
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Speaker 1: All right, let's just take this, take twenty twenty two

451
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Speaker 1: and take twenty twenty five. Four hundred and fifty five

452
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: yards of offensive penalties. Offensive penalties in twenty twenty five

453
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: minus the two ninety five offensive yard penalties of twenty

454
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: twenty two equals you'd have eleven points to scatter around,

455
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: So that gives you three wins on this stat allow

456
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Speaker 1: just this stat we can get in all the other stuff,

457
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: but you can get three games back and go from

458
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: six and eleven to nine and eight with the reduction

459
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Speaker 1: of offensive penalties. As offensive penalty yards, I should say,

460
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Speaker 1: so that goes back to discipline and toughness understanding, and

461
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: if you just reduce by half your offensive holding penalties,

462
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 1: that could lead to as many as two or three wins.

463
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Speaker 4: Off the top of my head, I think we had

464
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 4: four games last year where we were penalized double digit times.

465
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Speaker 4: The Jags game comes to mind, a game that we

466
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: lost by three points, that penalty after penalty after penalty,

467
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: and crucial moments that allowed Jacksonville to hang around and

468
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 4: eventually win. The Dallas game comes to mind, where we

469
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 4: were right there with Dallas the whole way, matching them

470
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Speaker 4: blow for blow, but particularly in the first half, we

471
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Speaker 4: would have a big play. I think I think Mahomes

472
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: hit Pacheco for a screen for a big play, or

473
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: in the red zone holding all the way back. Now

474
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Speaker 4: it's first and twenty and yeah, it's hard to overcome

475
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 4: that all the pass interference calls and we're.

476
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Speaker 1: Doing to your point, this accentuates another point because this

477
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Speaker 1: only counts the penalty yardage. It doesn't count the opportunity

478
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Speaker 1: cost of the forty yard game.

479
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 4: Wink, it happened.

480
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Speaker 1: This is just the ten yard penalty. That's an assess.

481
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Speaker 1: It's it's a great point, but that's like a fifty

482
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: yard penalty. Uh huh, exactly even worse.

483
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Speaker 4: And in all these games where we were right there,

484
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Speaker 4: I mean, you mentioned all the games that we lost

485
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 4: by three points. It's one thing if you're penalized ten

486
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 4: times and you lose forty to ten, it's like, all right,

487
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: you're still probably going to lose anyway. But we had

488
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 4: so many games this year where we were right there

489
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Speaker 4: with the opponent. I really don't look at any of

490
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Speaker 4: our games last season and say that team was just

491
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Speaker 4: way better than we were. I really don't. I guess

492
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Speaker 4: you could look at the Buffalo game, and Buffalo kind

493
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Speaker 4: of had us that day, But otherwise, at least when

494
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Speaker 4: myhomes is playing, I don't look at a single game

495
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: and say, yeah, that team was way better than we were.

496
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Speaker 4: The whole way. It's just routinely. Unfortunately, we were the

497
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: less disciplined team with penalties, and we allowed the other

498
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Speaker 4: team to take advantage of that. And we have to

499
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: get back to being like a twenty twenty two team

500
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: that it's the opposite. You are waiting for the other

501
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 4: team to make a mistake. You're not beating yourself, right

502
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. Unfortunately, I think we beat ourselves on the

503
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: scoreboard far too many times last year. Got to get

504
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: back to the opposite.

505
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Speaker 1: And to your point, we were one and five in

506
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Speaker 1: the AFC West. Yeah, those five losses, how ma did

507
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Speaker 1: you go?

508
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

509
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: Guy, they were just so much better than we were.

510
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: None of those And that's not to be disrespectful to

511
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: our division teams, to them in the playoffs and one

512
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: played for the SC championship. But your points well taken

513
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: there that if you just and again, the NFL will

514
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: force you to change or you do it on your

515
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: own volition.

516
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Speaker 4: And I'll add one thing speaking of Denver, So we

517
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: had the lead against Denver and the ball in the

518
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. I can't remember if it was the drive

519
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 4: that would have tied the game or when we had

520
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: the lead, but we had the ball in the fourth quarter,

521
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: either in a tie game or with the lead. Very

522
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 4: first play was a false start.

523
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Speaker 2: Yep.

524
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Speaker 4: We got to get back to not having that kind

525
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Speaker 4: of thing happen.

526
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

527
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Speaker 1: And it's tough to talk about this. This isn't fun

528
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: for us, But we're looking at it analytically, and so

529
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: is our coaching staff, so is Andy Reid. This is

530
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: the stuff they look at, and so you can just

531
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: see where discipline and toughness become the fulcrum of the matter,

532
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: and then that leads to the numbers instead of the

533
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: numbers leading back to that. So let's bring him back.

534
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: For sure.

535
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: We had a chance earlier to talk with Eric be Enemy,

536
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: the Chief's new old old, new offensive coordinator. There is

537
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: an element of excitement back into the Chief Kingdom because

538
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: he's back. Eric be Enemy is back now. I don't

539
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: know what you can call home. Luell La Pointa, California,

540
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: or Louisiana or boulderconnar round him.

541
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Speaker 2: We think you're home.

542
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: What about being back in.

543
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Speaker 5: The Chief king Oh, it feels great being back.

544
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: All the familiar faces I get to see, Coach see

545
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: it every day now. But it's great being back, just

546
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: being in an element where I was here for ten years.

547
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: Our family has called this place home, and now we

548
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to reunite and get with some good

549
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: people that miss and just want to be a part

550
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: of something great, and I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited,

551
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, I got this nervous energy switching, you know,

552
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: ready to jump into everything. But it's day one, so

553
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: just trying to figure everything out and re establish myself

554
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: in the building.

555
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Speaker 4: I'm sure the last few days have been pretty surreal

556
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: being back here after spending so much time here previously.

557
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 4: What were the emotions like on day one walking back

558
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: in this building.

559
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: You know what, it's been pretty high. But Schaefe, you know,

560
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: has a way of everyone, so it's been good just

561
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: getting an opportunity to sit down and talk to some

562
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: of the coaches, just to get a feel for what

563
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: things have taken place, but on top of that, just

564
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: to reunite with friends and family members, and you know,

565
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: that's that's been a great aspect of this because not

566
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: only because you know, in this profession, we spend more

567
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: time with coaches than we do our own families, and

568
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: so these guys have been a part of my family

569
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: for a number of years, and I know I haven't

570
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: been here in a couple of years, but they never left.

571
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: They've just been distant relative. Now we're back reunited, and

572
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: so I'm excited just to sit down and continue these

573
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: talks and just continue the journey from here on out.

574
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Speaker 1: Speaking of being back with family, you're back with Patrick.

575
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Yes, you thought about I'm going to be with Pat again.

576
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: You know what? Fired up?

577
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: Excited, very excited, I should say, just having an opportunity

578
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: just to see him going through his rehab process. And

579
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: you know the thing I love about Pat, which you

580
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: always love, just the competitive spirit and obviously he's in there.

581
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: Julie's doing an outstanding job with him. He's so fired up.

582
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: You know, if Pat could come out there and do

583
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: whatever he can tomorrow, he would show it off and

584
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: be ready to roll. But I'm excited about that opportunity

585
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: just to reunite and just tap into him and just

586
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: you know, start talking through things, just to see exactly

587
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: where he is. But I'm, like I said, I'm excited.

588
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: When you look back on your first tenure here as

589
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, what are you most proud of when you

590
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: look back on that time?

591
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: You know what I guess just the things that we accomplished.

592
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: I don't know necessarily of anything that really stands out,

593
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: but probably just the growth and watching some of our

594
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: younger players grow into becoming the professional players that they've

595
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: become and growing into the professional I.

596
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: Mean, just the men of.

597
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: High standards and men of excellence and watching them become

598
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: father figures. You know, that's been the fun part about this,

599
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: just watching the growth process overall.

600
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: But you know, more than anything, like I said, we were.

601
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: Very blessed due to all the hard work that we endued,

602
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: putting the blood, sweat and tears into it, but just

603
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: the evolution of the growth process and watching these young

604
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: men develop and grow over the years. That's, if anything,

605
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: that's what you be. That's more than anything that you

606
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: could be proud of, because I mean, outstanding citizens, proud fathers.

607
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the fun part.

608
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: That being said, what did you learn from the Washington experience,

609
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: the UCLA experience, the Chicago experience. You've got this three

610
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: years of adding to your package to bring here.

611
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: You know what, I think, more than anything, just navigat

612
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: and articulating and finding your way on how to communicate,

613
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: making sure that everybody's understanding the exact messaging. On top

614
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: of it is there's different ways that you can approach

615
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: a game and how you game plan, learning the culture

616
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: in the environment. You just can't go in and try

617
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: and develop a culture. You got to make sure that

618
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: you can fit in because these guys have been there

619
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Speaker 3: for a number of years.

620
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Speaker 5: You want to make sure that you're not.

621
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Speaker 3: Interrupting anything, but also adding to it. I think there's

622
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: a number of things just how you communicate, how you associate.

623
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: One thing that doesn't.

624
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: Change is the ability to just let people know who

625
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: you are. One thing I want to do since being back,

626
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: I want to reach out to every player and just

627
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: make sure that I have an opportunity to get to

628
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: know them because obviously, yes, there are some players that

629
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: have been here for a number of years, but there's

630
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: a lot of new and there's a lot of guys

631
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. So I need to establish those lines

632
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: of communication, getting to know those people and developing the

633
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: relationships so I can we can grow together. But that's

634
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: one of the main things that if I can do

635
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: it a little differently, just the ability just to make

636
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: sure that those relationships could be established a little bit more.

637
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: And looking at last year specifically, you obviously had a

638
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: lot of success in Chicago and with the Bears and

639
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 4: under Ben Johnson. Is there anything that you learned from

640
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: that experience and learning from Coach Johnson that you are

641
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: looking to bring here?

642
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: You know what, I had a great deal of a

643
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: fun working with that Stabuf first of all, a very diverse,

644
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: very good group of men that I had an opportunity

645
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: to work with. As far as our coaching staff, I

646
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: thought Ben Johnson did a hell of a job. But

647
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: just the approach, obviously, there's different ways. Like I said,

648
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: there's different ways to skin a cat, you know, the

649
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 3: philosophy was a little bit different from what I've been

650
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: used to here in the past. But one thing that

651
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate about him was that he stayed true to

652
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: form throughout his whole stand as far as the things

653
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: that he wanted us to achieve. And the thing that

654
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the most is just watching the players grow

655
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: to enjoy not just what he was preaching, but believing

656
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: in the messaging and just putting it on tape. Our

657
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: guys had a great belief that they can win, and

658
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun watching them go through

659
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: that growth.

660
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: Process.

661
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: But one thing I learned more than anything is just

662
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: there's different ways and different approaches and how you go

663
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: about game planning, which was a lot of fun.

664
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: We ran the ball a whole bunch.

665
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: And on it well, but we were watching from afar.

666
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: But okay, that leads into this. And one thing you've

667
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: always been about is discipline, yes, and toughness yes, and

668
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: how this game never changes. We can look at numbers

669
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: and analytics, but that's one thing Matt and I've been

670
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: talking about. How much of a goal do you have

671
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: to bring back to us in twenty twenty six, And

672
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: beyond discipline and toughness.

673
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I think more than Anything's just like my approach

674
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: has never changed when it comes to that. We've got

675
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 3: to make sure that we got the right people in

676
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: the building because they got to have the right mindset

677
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: to fit the standard of excellence that we want. On

678
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: top of that, you know, I want guys to understand

679
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: that not only do we have to be disciplined, but

680
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: we got to be willing to sacrifice for the next man.

681
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: On top of that, there has to be a toughness

682
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: about how you approach everything. You got to have a

683
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: game plan on when you're going to cross that line

684
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: when you enter the building. Because what do you want

685
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: to establish today that's going to help us moving forward.

686
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: I think that mindset, you know, just having that discipline

687
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: approach on how we're going to detail everything and making

688
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: sure that we're not taking anything or any moment for granted.

689
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: All of those things combined are going to help us

690
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: to get to where we need to go. Well more importantly,

691
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: that starts with me establishing a relationship with those guys

692
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: to get them to start thinking about that approach.

693
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 5: And so, like I said, it's.

694
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: Day one, but more than anything, it's the first day

695
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: of tomorrow. So I want to make sure that we're

696
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: getting everything in order and making.

697
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 5: Sure we're taking on the right approach with everything.

698
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: Now, you mentioned that you guys ran the ball a

699
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: whole lot last year in Chicago. I mean, you're a

700
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: former running back, you're a former running backs coach. How

701
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: much of wanting to run the footballs in your DNA

702
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: as an offensive coordinator?

703
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, and here's the thing. So,

704
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: first of all, I love running the ball. There's something

705
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: about throwing the ball too, because when I was in Washington,

706
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: the thought of running the ball really did ender my

707
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: mind because we threw the hell out of it. But

708
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, You know this game is cyclical,

709
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: and the way the game, the evolution of the game

710
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: has changed, and so one thing that hasn't changed. You

711
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: got to make sure that you're playing to your strengths.

712
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: One of our strengths last year was our whole line

713
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: and our backs. And don't get me wrong, we had

714
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: a talented quarterback and some talented receivers, and those guys

715
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: at a heck for a job running the ball on

716
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: top of that old line did a heck of a

717
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: job of glidening some holes for them. But what it

718
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: all did was also compliment everything that we can do

719
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: in the past game. But more than anything, the game

720
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: has not changed. You still got to run the ball

721
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: efficiently and effectively to win the championship, but on top

722
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 3: of that, you got to throw it to score touchdowns.

723
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: So that's what this game is about, and we got

724
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: to make sure that we can get back to that mode.

725
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: That being said, without naming names here, to construct the

726
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: running back room for us going into twenty six, what

727
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: would be a right approach because we're going to see

728
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: free agency, draft, the guys that are.

729
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Here getting better.

730
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 1: But what have you seen for a running back room,

731
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: not just as runners but as receivers to be impactful

732
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: in this league.

733
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: Well, one thing and the approaches that we've always taken

734
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: on here, you want the best people who happen to

735
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: be the best football players you know that can play

736
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: the running back position. I think that has never changed

737
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: because first and foremost, you want guys that are smart

738
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: enough all right, that can handle the capacity of what

739
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: we're going to put on to them as far as

740
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: the game planning. On top of that, they got to

741
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: have the intestinal fortitude to pick up a blitz any

742
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: chance that we have because our quarterback is going to

743
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: drop back and throw it a lot. But we also

744
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: need guys who can run between the tackles and create

745
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: plays not only with their legs but also too understanding

746
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: that sometimes I got to run through somebody to make

747
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: something happen. But when it's all saying done with, we

748
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: also got to be creative enough of getting those guys

749
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: out of the backfield and creating one on one matchup.

750
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: So there's a unique ebb and flow on what we

751
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: got to do. But when it's all sitting downe with.

752
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: We got to find the right people. And I think

753
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: if we find the right person who has all that combined,

754
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: we've seen it happen before, you know what I mean.

755
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: We just got to make sure that we're we're not

756
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: losing sight on those little things to help us to

757
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: build it the right way.

758
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: Now, Coach Reid has his pressed her a few days

759
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: ago where he talked about your hiring and he seemed

760
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: just really fired up, like he was in a great mood.

761
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: How excited are you just to collaborate with him now

762
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: going into next year.

763
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm fired up. I'm excited.

764
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it just seems like old times, So

765
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: I'm fired up. I'm excited just to have this opportunity

766
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: to work with coach Red. Obviously, you know, Coach Reid

767
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: has been someone that has been in my life for

768
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: a long time. I'm excited about working with a brilliant mind.

769
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: But on top of that, just sitting back in that

770
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: room and grinding with him. Now, I will say this,

771
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: I've lost a few pounds, So I don't know what

772
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: it's gonna look like because you know, we both like

773
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: we don't weigte grocery, So it's gonna be fun, you know,

774
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: sitting in those long meetings, creating game plays together and

775
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: sharing a few meals together as well.

776
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to jump back to something though, because I

777
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: always say, find me a good football team with a

778
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: bad offensive line.

779
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 5: It'll be the first one. Yes, And ain't that a

780
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 5: true statement?

781
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: So Creed Humphrey is still here, Yes, Tray Smith's still here. Yes,

782
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: what about building an offensive line? But the guys that

783
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: you're going to get to know? But having those guys as.

784
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: Anchors playing offensive football everything has you know, one thing

785
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: that is not a change. You still got to do

786
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: with the guys up front. And so the only way

787
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna build success, those guys up front got to

788
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: be the staple in what you do. And so if

789
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: you got the right guys up front, we have a change.

790
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: And obviously Veach has done a great job with that

791
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: over the years, and I'm sure he's going to continue

792
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: to do that. But when it's all saying done with,

793
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: we got one of the best on line coaches in

794
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: the business, and Coach check has done a tremendous job

795
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: in this whole tenure why he's been here, So we

796
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 3: expect that to continue, and we expect to continue to build.

797
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: But that's the development process that we're in and we're

798
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: going to continue to chop would and make it happen.

799
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 4: From my point of view, if there's like one word

800
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 4: that kind of describes your mentality as a coach, it's finish.

801
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Kind of seems like the word you're always screaming at

802
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: the guys, right a training.

803
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: Call, wait for show? Yeah?

804
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, where's that mentality come from? And as a coach,

805
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: how important is that to instill that in your guys?

806
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: The need to finish well?

807
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: I guess finish comes from just your work ethics. If

808
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: you're going to start something, you might as well finish it.

809
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: And it's amazing, you know, guys need to learn how

810
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: to finish. Everybody claims to be a great player, but

811
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: you know, I'll never forget this. When I was playing

812
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: in the league, I thought I was a great finisher.

813
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: Until nineteen ninety four.

814
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: We went out to practice against the San Francisco forty

815
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: nine ers, in which they beat us three times that

816
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: year in the preseason, the regular season, and in the

817
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. But I had an opportunity to watch Jerry Rice.

818
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: You know, and I've shared this story over the years.

819
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: You'll see Jerry Rice. I remember the seven h seventh period.

820
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: He catches a slant, takes it eighty yards, jogged back.

821
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 5: You know.

822
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: Two plays later he may catch a pass, you know,

823
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: but he scores and finished in jogs back. And that's

824
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: when it hit me. It was like one of those

825
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: moments where you realize, Wow, this ain't by chance that

826
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: you see Jerry Rice making all these plays, all these

827
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: great plays on Sunday. Now he learned how to make

828
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: second effort to habit because he rehearsed everything throughout the

829
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: course of practice, and so his deal was making sure

830
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: he was making those dynamic catches, but on top of that,

831
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: he was finishing everything in the end zone. So that's

832
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: why he's one of the best. And so I learned that,

833
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 3: and that has carried me throughout my career, not only

834
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: as a player, but also as a coach, because there's

835
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 3: a lot of great players in this league, but there's

836
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 3: not a lot of great finishers, you know, And so

837
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 3: you teach guys they have to learn how to finish

838
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 3: the process, you know, And so guys need to understand,

839
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: just like actors, they do a great job of rehearsing

840
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: everything what they gonna put on tape. You got to

841
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: rehearse what you're gonna do in practice so you can

842
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: put it on display come come game day.

843
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: And that's important.

844
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: And so that's why it's always about finishing what you do.

845
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: You had a thirty three yard catch in that Super Bowl,

846
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: by the way, you get it.

847
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: You get the ball enough against the Niners, you know,

848
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: but we have some pretty good players. We had Na

849
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: Tron Means and Ronnie Harmon and for the record, Eric

850
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: Bing to me did have the longest play from scrimmage

851
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: for the San Diego Chargers. Other than that, you know,

852
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: me and a trun have been talking about that. Man

853
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I should have started, but I'm just joking. But they

854
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: had a great team. They got us. They had the best,

855
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: They had the greatest team in the world that year.

856
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: To say it's awesome to have you back is understatement.

857
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: But what was one final thing? What would you tell

858
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom? Because hundreds of thousands of people are

859
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: going to watch this going, what's he going to bring

860
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: back to us?

861
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 5: What's he got? You know what? You know what I'm

862
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: excited about.

863
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: And this has nothing to do with me going out

864
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: there and providing anything for the team. I'm looking forward

865
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 3: to the national anthem when we could say the Home

866
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs, because for the past few years I've

867
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: been mumbling it to myself, covering up my face, like jeez,

868
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: you know. So that's what I'm excited about. But I'll

869
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: say this, you know, my whole point is just making

870
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: sure that we can always make sure that our guys

871
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 3: are committed.

872
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: Okay, they got to be willing to sacrifice.

873
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: On top of that, understanding the importance of being accountable,

874
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: and then on top of that, it's about making sure

875
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: we can become consistent with our work ethic. And so

876
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: those are the things that I'm looking forward to and

877
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: instilling and hoping that that these guys will buy into.

878
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: And I know because of the leadership of Pat Mahomes

879
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: and some of the other guys, I know that's going

880
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: to become an infectious behavior.

881
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: And He's just there's some energy to the guy. You

882
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: just get lifted when you're around him, or feel like

883
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: you better do better, do it better because he's there's

884
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: a marine grill sergeant with you.

885
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: Be yes, you said definitely.

886
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: And he's such a good man. Like Elijah went to

887
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: my son's school. I think my son taught him and

888
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: what they've gone through in me is such a great gal.

889
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: But there's a lot to these guys that in a

890
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: lot with that Ebery brings back into the building immediately,

891
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: and I think coach allud to that earlier in this pressure.

892
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: And I think the continuity is exciting because he knows

893
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: how things work around here. He knows what the standard is,

894
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: he knows what's acceptable and what's not acceptable, and he's

895
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: been here for success. He knows what success looks like here,

896
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 4: and he knows what it takes to find success here, right,

897
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 4: And I think that continuity is exciting. He knows what

898
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: it's like to work with Coach Reed, what Coach Reed expects,

899
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: all that stuff. I think sometimes when you bring people

900
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: in that have no familiarity with us at all, there's

901
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: some growing pains. Right, there's a process of kind of

902
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: learning in the culture and how things work. There's no

903
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: learning process with him. With eb He's already started thinking

904
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: about the twenty twenty six season. And that's exciting if

905
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: you're a Chief fan, because we want to move on

906
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: from this thing as fast as possible, right, I mean,

907
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about the twenty twenty five

908
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: season anymore in the areas that we have to get better.

909
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 4: I want to get to getting better. And the fact

910
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 4: that coach b Enemy knows this system, ows this place,

911
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 4: knows the building, knows you and me, like he just

912
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: knows the whole thing, right, And I think that helps him.

913
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 4: You're trying to get back to our expectations as soon

914
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: as possible.

915
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: And yet and I saw this with Matt Naggy, And

916
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: keep in mind met we won a Super Bowl with

917
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Matt Naggy's offensive coordinator. Yeah, and went to back to

918
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: back Super Bowls.

919
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: Yes, and we wish him all the best.

920
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: So when Nags went to Chicago, he was here, he

921
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: was he was Pat's caddy right twenty seventeen. Basically, he

922
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: and Kafka were Pat's caddy. And then he has the

923
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: four years in Chicago, which he actually did a better

924
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: job there than people realize. Yeah, but he brought So

925
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: here's my point to parallel what he and we just

926
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: heard it from Ebe. He learned something in Washington, he

927
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: learned something at UCLA, he learned something with Chicago. So

928
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: he has the familiarity, but he also has what we

929
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the podcast is that he is

930
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: either changing learning, that's what and so he has brought

931
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: even some different perspective into the building than he had

932
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: when he left in twenty twenty.

933
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: TiO definitely, and particularly I think last year with Ben

934
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: Johnson is kind of exciting. Ben Johnson is kind of

935
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: part of this wave of new young coaches that have

936
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: a lot of ideas and a lot of thoughts and

937
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: schemes that are different from years past, right, And I

938
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 4: think it's exciting for him to come here and to

939
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 4: take a few things he really liked from that experience

940
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: and sprinkle him in here. There's no harm in that

941
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: at all, right, And I think that's exciting because, particularly

942
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: talking about the need to get back to like an

943
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: explosive running game. One thing that Chicago did so well

944
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: last year, like I talked about earlier, is run the football.

945
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: And if you're trying to find ways to run the

946
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: football more effectively, there's really no better person right now

947
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: to ask than Eb who coached the running backs in

948
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: Chicago under Ben Johnson. So I think that's exciting and

949
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: curious to see kind of what parts of that offense

950
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 4: he's able to bring to Kansas City next year.

951
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: We'll close this way because as fans and people who

952
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: follow the league, many times we can kind of put

953
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator by himself, and honestly, it's a collaborative effort.

954
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: All thirty two teams. It has to be.

955
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: You cannot and so like a quarterback many times will

956
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: get too much credit and too much blame. A coordinator,

957
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: whether it's offensive, defensive, special team, can get too much

958
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: credit and too much blame. It's a collaborative effort. Chad

959
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: o'she coming back in this building, hopefully going to get

960
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: Chad on a podcast. To me is a super positive

961
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: to bring him back in the building twenty some years later,

962
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: and he's been an offensive coordinator, a guy who is

963
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: very bright and talking about bringing new ideas in. He's

964
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: got all kinds of ideas, including those years in New

965
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: England where they went on their second surge run. He

966
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: was there for that. But you look at Joe Blameier

967
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: and you look at David Girardi and you go down

968
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: the hallway, I'm thinking of, you know, Andy Heck and

969
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: the others. Coach Melvin still here in the fact that

970
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: now you put it's still all those minds working together

971
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: with one of the greatest head coaches with the offensive

972
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: mind one of the greatest offensive minds in the history

973
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: of the planet that's still here. But you bring in

974
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: other inputs, and we just have to understand it's a

975
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: collaborative effort of all these offensive minds surrounding one of

976
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks to ever play in this league.

977
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes everybody. And I'm excited about the people

978
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: that are here. I'm excited about the people that we've

979
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: brought in. And it's an opportunity to take a step back,

980
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: look at what didn't work last year, let's fix that,

981
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: and let's look at what did work last year, and

982
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: let's build on that. Right and having the people that

983
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: we have in this building, I have no doubt they're

984
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: going to do that. That's what they've been doing over

985
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: the last several weeks when the team has not been

986
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, they've been thinking about next season. They've

987
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 4: been doing a scheme eval, they've been figuring out how

988
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: this time next year we're doing a Super Bowl preview

989
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 4: and not talking about last year.

990
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: It's about discipline and it's about toughness. This game will

991
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: always be that way, and so discipline and toughness has

992
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: come into the building as Eric the enemy is back.

993
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: Wo