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Speaker 3: He's him, eh period, I period him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he is, he is, and he was.
Speaker 1: In twenty one of twenty three, two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: four yards, two touchdowns, zero turnovers, ninety one percent completion percentage.
Speaker 1: He goes on the road in a hostile environment against
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and they we know the Bengals. The crowd
Speaker 1: is gonna be rockers. They're oh and two. They don't
Speaker 1: want to go down oh and three. It's very, very
Speaker 1: hard to make the playoffs going down oh to three
Speaker 1: because guess what, in order for you to get back
Speaker 1: to five hundred, you gotta win your next three games.
Speaker 1: That gets you back at five hundred. You have a
Speaker 1: slip up. You could easily be one in five.
Speaker 4: Not to make matters worse. Huh ass ass, I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna say it. Ass asks can we play next?
Speaker 5: Watch this? Ask asks you the Bengals play next.
Speaker 3: Don't y'all got Don't y'all got Baltimore?
Speaker 1: Now Baltimore? Who they got this? Oh, y'all got the Panthers?
Speaker 1: Not to win for the Panthers. I got the Panther.
Speaker 1: That's easy, that's easy. Do whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 5: Don't who you got Panthers?
Speaker 1: Surf y'all ontle schedule.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm going, I'm going. I'm going to that game.
Speaker 4: Now that back to this game. Thissten is Jameon Daniels
Speaker 4: was phenomenal. Jaydeen Daniels at the quarterback position played phenomenal tonight.
Speaker 5: Listen. The franchise, the Commander franchise.
Speaker 4: They got them one, They got them a twelve year
Speaker 4: they got them a ten twelve year franchise quarterback, and
Speaker 4: we got a small symp.
Speaker 1: Size of it at LSU.
Speaker 4: I didn't expect them to come in this early as
Speaker 4: a rookie, And this is the question I ask you
Speaker 4: as a rookie, and look this good, this early, and
Speaker 4: my question to you on kid is, but you might
Speaker 4: have a better, better way of answering why is it
Speaker 4: that some rookies can come in their rookie year and
Speaker 4: look the par to look like they've been before, the
Speaker 4: CJ Shrouds, the Jayden Daniels. And then you have other
Speaker 4: rookies that don't look the par They struggle, they don't.
Speaker 1: Well, that's where any position, some wide receivers come in
Speaker 1: and you get a Randy Moss, or you get a
Speaker 1: Pook in the cool or you get a Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes guys, it takes a little longer. Everybody
Speaker 1: doesn't mature. Some people reach maturity at eighteen, some people
Speaker 1: it takes them twenty one. Some people take them twenty five.
Speaker 1: Some people never damn mature. What you do, it all
Speaker 1: depends on. Look, the one thing we know about heleft Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: Yeah he can coach some quarterbacks. Yeah yeah, he and
Speaker 1: Lincoln Rileigh can coach quarterbacks. Now, you can say what
Speaker 1: you want to say about them as head coaches, But
Speaker 1: when it comes to running an offense, when it comes
Speaker 1: to putting a quarterback and taking what he does really
Speaker 1: well and accentuating that and putting him in the most
Speaker 1: positive position so he can have success, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say somebody is better than those two. Now, Sarkesia might
Speaker 1: have something to say about that, because we know what
Speaker 1: he's done with quarterbacks in his tenure as an oc
Speaker 1: AT a head coach. But that's the one thing Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury Lincoln Riley can do. They can coach the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: And he has a quarterback processes information very well, he
Speaker 1: seized it feel very well. He had Terry mccluurin early
Speaker 1: on a seventh route and he threw it out of bounds.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent of the balls that land out of
Speaker 1: bounds the incomplete. But you say what he did on
Speaker 1: that next one. He put it up under the rest,
Speaker 1: gave a clearing an opportunity keep him in bounds in
Speaker 1: the bread basket, and mcclaury did a great job of
Speaker 1: holding on to it.
Speaker 3: Oh sure this this young man, I mean, the moment
Speaker 3: is not too big.
Speaker 1: Now. You saw what he did at the LSU last
Speaker 1: year he won the Heisman Trophy. He was sensational due
Speaker 1: a threat quarterback. But the thing that I love most
Speaker 1: about him, he's not relying on his legs. You wi
Speaker 1: only run if it's absolute got to if you know
Speaker 1: he got absolutely necessary, and you know he's he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the most you know, sides on him. He's not
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds, So he understands that I
Speaker 1: have to pick and choose my spots in order for
Speaker 1: me to run. And when I do run, I got
Speaker 1: to make sure I protect myself. They've made it easy.
Speaker 1: I can slide like I'm going stealing a base. But
Speaker 1: he was twenty one of twenty three two fifty four
Speaker 1: two touchdown They ran the ball for one hundred and
Speaker 1: six yards.
Speaker 3: Though Joe Joey B didn't play bad.
Speaker 1: He was twenty nine of thirty eight three twenty four
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. They ran the ball for one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty four yards. But those first couple of possessions when
Speaker 1: they fell behind.
Speaker 4: Him, and you know what else, Now, on those first
Speaker 4: couple of possessions, those two four down conversions that the
Speaker 4: commanders were able to.
Speaker 5: They were able to convert, able to.
Speaker 4: Convert like that, that hurt, like I thought, honestly to
Speaker 4: me I'm thinking, listen, Bengals, we have a history of
Speaker 4: always starting out starting out out the gate, you know,
Speaker 4: very slow, especially offensively, start zero to two oh and three,
Speaker 4: don't I don't think that's happened that that that has happened.
Speaker 5: But we've been to this point in a very very
Speaker 5: long time.
Speaker 4: But the offense looked good, looked good tonight, as opposed
Speaker 4: to would have did last week and the week and
Speaker 4: the week prior we had it. We had all hands
Speaker 4: on deck offensively, but we couldn't. We couldn't pull it out.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that when we go to Carolina next week,
Speaker 4: which is a game that I'm going to attend, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go out there to Carolina and tend the game.
Speaker 5: Hopefully that you get bounced back and see what happens.
Speaker 1: Per ESPN, the Commander's Bengals game is the first game
Speaker 1: since nineteen forty to go without a single punt or
Speaker 1: a single turnover in the ballgame. Damn oh most sevteen forty.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about eighty five year, eighty five years though, Joe,
Speaker 1: our game in which there was not a single punt
Speaker 1: from either team and either neither team turned the football over.
Speaker 1: So it was some good, clean football. Nobody brought their defenses.
Speaker 1: Everybody packed the extra offense right because they were going
Speaker 1: up and down the field. That less you know, there
Speaker 1: was no defense being played, O Joe, when you can
Speaker 1: go think about it, Okay, I've been on teams that
Speaker 1: we didn't punt the football, but the other team punted,
Speaker 1: or the other team turning. When you go an entire
Speaker 1: game and neither team punts, neither team turns it over.
Speaker 1: That's why the stat nineteen forty ain't a whole lot
Speaker 1: of people around to see that. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: They were only probably about five or sixteen playing then
Speaker 1: maybe Washington, Pittsburgh, the Packers, some the Bears. There weren't
Speaker 1: a whole lot of teams playing way back there, though, Joe,
Speaker 1: Like I said, the Packers and the Bears. We know
Speaker 1: they were playing Washington, Chicago, they were playing maybe the
Speaker 1: Giants maybe, But there weren't a whole lot of teams.
Speaker 5: Man, this would hurt man.
Speaker 3: Oh, they didn't go by the name. That didn't go
Speaker 3: by now. They were the Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Dodgers, the Chicago Bears, the Chicago Cardinals, the Cleveland Rams,
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, the New York Jacks, the Pirates which
Speaker 1: you later became the Steelers, and they also have a
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates and the Washington They were known as the
Speaker 1: uh the derogatory term.
Speaker 3: They're the Commanders now, but we know what that term was. So,
Speaker 3: uh there was two four six.
Speaker 1: They were eighteens back then, and uh that was that
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable stat. Earlier this week, Cam Taylor Brett
Speaker 1: had some interesting things to say about Jalen Daniels. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to the sound, don't y'all?
Speaker 6: Oh oh woman, dogs said, Yeah, they don't make him
Speaker 6: do a lot. Sure, they keep it really simple form
Speaker 6: Uh last college of things so key loc so have a.
Speaker 1: Lot more guys around here and there, but they'll just
Speaker 1: keep it around.
Speaker 6: I heard Transroute, you know some kennermedia stuff.
Speaker 1: We grow. Well, can I ask you a question, O Joe,
Speaker 1: why y'all talk so much of y'all ain't want nothing?
Speaker 5: Who is y'all?
Speaker 1: I mean? That was the Bengals. The Bengals. The Bengals,
Speaker 1: y'all talk every year, y'all beat y'all built to beat
Speaker 1: Kansas City, y'all built to beat this, this, we that.
Speaker 1: When are y'all gonna win a super Bowl? When are
Speaker 1: y'all gonna do something that gives you the credence and
Speaker 1: the credibility to talk? And him, he's talking like he
Speaker 1: reavers that three weeks litter role. I've heard him mitche Day, Mitchell,
Speaker 1: he had an unbelievable in one headed interception. Me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, listen, Camp Camp Tell the Britain is a
Speaker 4: very very good DV. He's a very good DV. He
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be reabs. But he's a different type
Speaker 4: of dB. But what he is, he is, he's a
Speaker 4: good he's a good cover man. He's a good cover man,
Speaker 4: man and man, good zone whatever it is that they
Speaker 4: want to do. But I think from an individual standpoint,
Speaker 4: him talking that might be his his way of playing
Speaker 4: the game. Listen, When I played, I talked. I talked
Speaker 4: every week.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 4: But it's one thing I did, is one thing I
Speaker 4: did when I did talk? Yes, who backed it up?
Speaker 1: And I asked y'all too, I said, where y'all a
Speaker 1: y'all talking so much when y'all ain't one ish?
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, that's the way I proased the game. Whether
Speaker 4: we win it or not, we could listen, we could
Speaker 4: be on twelve. I'm gonna be talking.
Speaker 3: We we get to talk. We get to talk on Choe.
Speaker 1: We could talk. We won another war. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: into that a little bit later. We went we won
Speaker 1: another ward. He ain't tell me, man, it's it's so
Speaker 1: the thing we I mean, all you had to do
Speaker 1: is just look and see. Look. Of course, so you
Speaker 1: expect him to come in as a rookie his first,
Speaker 1: second and third game, to run an offense as complicated
Speaker 1: as Patrick Mahomes, as complicated as Josh Allen, as complicated
Speaker 1: as a guy that's been playing in the National Football
Speaker 1: League for an extremely extended period of time.
Speaker 4: Of course, I have a question, Yes, do you know
Speaker 4: what happens when you have a player at this caliber
Speaker 4: that's doing what he's doing so early. We're talking about
Speaker 4: Jaden Dans and in general, you have a player fits
Speaker 4: caliber doing what he doing so early. You watch what
Speaker 4: he did in college. Why not take what he did
Speaker 4: in college extremely well, which is the reason why he won,
Speaker 4: to hide some trophy and application to incorporate that to
Speaker 4: what he does at the NFL level, and bingo, you
Speaker 4: get the same thing, the same high level of play
Speaker 4: the same level of high level of being able to
Speaker 4: process information, being able to deliver the ball, make make your decisions,
Speaker 4: do your reads, and if it's not there, put it
Speaker 4: down and run with it, which is what you're so
Speaker 4: tin Maybe maybe simplifying the offense makes it that much easier.
Speaker 1: Maybe all I know is, y'all let a rookie with
Speaker 1: that simple offense. That's very collegiate. All I know is
Speaker 1: he complete, completed nine passes, he had two touchdowns, no turnover,
Speaker 1: and y'all enforce the punt. So for that offense to
Speaker 1: be so simplistic, it ain't y'all lass up. I mean,
Speaker 1: he will cooking now he gonna be guess what he
Speaker 1: about to be. He about to be player of the week.
Speaker 1: He's got to be here f V player of the
Speaker 1: Week over Sam Donald because he look what he did
Speaker 1: on the road in a hostile environment. That's what he
Speaker 1: did on y'all the game all. You gave the game
Speaker 1: all after the game. So while you over there talking,
Speaker 1: Brett with your head down, you got your tower, you
Speaker 1: and your locker talk mumbling you know hate, Hey, we
Speaker 1: just got to make get no no, nothing, no no,
Speaker 1: hold your head.
Speaker 5: Up, hey, don't. No, don't they don't talk. Youre Gonta
Speaker 5: talking about my team. Don't talk about my team like
Speaker 5: talk about him?
Speaker 1: Are y'all on three? I keep I'm telling you last
Speaker 1: year has no barring on this year. You keep saying,
Speaker 1: y'all know we start slow. If we start slow, Okay,
Speaker 1: keep on starting slow. Guess what y'all in three? Now?
Speaker 1: You got your work cut out for it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got work cut out. We got more than
Speaker 4: that work cut out. Listen, if we're serious, if we're
Speaker 4: serious about the end goal and trying to get to
Speaker 4: New Orleans, listen, we got more than that work cut
Speaker 4: out for us.
Speaker 1: But we got to regroup.
Speaker 5: We got to look at each other in the mirror
Speaker 5: and figure out what is what?
Speaker 1: What did we really want to do? What is that
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish?
Speaker 4: Because if we if we come out the gate and
Speaker 4: go ho on foe and we might we chalk with
Speaker 4: season up.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why you're looking at the
Speaker 1: mill nine. So after the first game that you were
Speaker 1: in New England, ain't won a game since beat the
Speaker 1: breaks off you that that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 1: a check for you? I get it, Kansas City, going
Speaker 1: on the road to Kansas City. Ain't no harm in
Speaker 1: losing the Kansas City. But you tell me, y'all build
Speaker 1: y'all building a beat. Deal almost won that game? Now
Speaker 1: won that?
Speaker 3: You have You have been? You have been to my diner.
Speaker 3: You know what my diner?
Speaker 1: What's selling wins and losses, doves and ail. That's all
Speaker 1: I saved. That's all just on the menu. You can't
Speaker 1: order anything else. You either get it when you come,
Speaker 1: when you come to the club sat Shade dinner, you
Speaker 1: get dubs or you get ails.
Speaker 4: One thing, one thing about the NFL is a game
Speaker 4: of inches. And that game against the Chiefs. Listen, we
Speaker 4: we we we would have won that game if it
Speaker 4: wasn't for what At the end of the game, he
Speaker 4: ran up, ran up, ran right up.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, you know, but
Speaker 5: you're right, But.
Speaker 1: Listen, we can't. We can't we go on foe.
Speaker 4: If I'm telling you, I'm telling you that we go
Speaker 4: on foe, I'm gonna.
Speaker 5: Go slap ass off and I'm gonna start snapping.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to know. I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about this. I want to talk about y'all being
Speaker 1: O three. So what's going on?
Speaker 5: Oh Joe, I don't I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 5: what's going on.
Speaker 4: Obviously day defensively, uh, we didn't show up. We didn't
Speaker 4: show up. Defensively. We have two of our d tackles
Speaker 4: that that are hurt right now. And that's it. From
Speaker 4: off of the standpoint, we look good. Offensive were good.
Speaker 4: I think we could have we could have done more.
Speaker 1: But I mean, god, y'all, you know your defense was
Speaker 1: kicking with your offense was selling for field goals to
Speaker 1: y'all would match the touchdown for touchdown. Yeah. Team in
Speaker 1: the NFL has ever started and three and made it
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl Since nineteen ninety, since the new
Speaker 1: format was instituted, only four teams have made the playoffs
Speaker 1: after starting oh and three.
Speaker 4: But there's a possibility that we might be the fifteen
Speaker 4: to make it after start knowing three, which.
Speaker 1: Is a possibility. There's a possibility I can win the lottery.
Speaker 1: I ain't going to buy two hundred million dollars house
Speaker 1: to prove it. There's a possibility I can win it.
Speaker 1: You going to buy a house that cost forty million
Speaker 1: with the possibility you might win the lottery to pay
Speaker 1: for it. Absolutely not, Okay, I was just checking. All
Speaker 1: I need to know is what's going on with y'all?
Speaker 1: Ifaise o, Joe? It was callery. The office didn't look
Speaker 1: that bad. Joe Burrow had a good game today.
Speaker 3: You know the calories. Did y'all ever have the lead
Speaker 3: in the game?
Speaker 1: No? Okay? At one point y'all was down by like
Speaker 1: for thirteen fourteen, right, yeah.
Speaker 5: And we was able were we was able to come
Speaker 5: back to.
Speaker 1: Do what.
Speaker 3: What y'all got? What's the close of y'all got in
Speaker 3: this ball game?
Speaker 5: Who was it?
Speaker 1: Thirteen ten? No? Ten? Ten? Ten?
Speaker 3: I think it was all that.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, all I know is the only time that
Speaker 1: closeness matters if you're slow dancing or you're throwing your
Speaker 1: nave the pitching horseshoes? Now which one were y'all doing tonight?
Speaker 1: That closeness had to batter. Hey, I mean, I ain't
Speaker 1: slow dance since I was in eighth grade. I remember
Speaker 1: eighth grade we had a dance, Oh Joe, I would
Speaker 1: the chaperones kept busting my hustle. I tried to get
Speaker 1: it in, don't you you know? You back it up?
Speaker 1: Back it up? Out of here.
Speaker 3: Damn that don't shake cook.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to cook gonhow you know what I'm failure? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, you know it's funny. Normally I'm not
Speaker 4: at a loss for words. Normally I always have a
Speaker 4: reason and a reason for why things are the way
Speaker 4: they are. But you know, it's almost unheard of for
Speaker 4: a team, especially like the Bengals, with the type of
Speaker 4: talent that they have on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 4: with a quarterback like we do have it to him
Speaker 4: to be oh and three, Like, there's really no explanation
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 5: I can't explain it.
Speaker 4: I would love to see the All twenty two film,
Speaker 4: but like, god, damn, just watch this watching from afar
Speaker 4: actually being at the game to night is it's hard
Speaker 4: from just playing?
Speaker 5: What the problem is?
Speaker 1: M h? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know we did.
Speaker 5: We didn't play well on defense, so I know I
Speaker 5: know that.
Speaker 1: I know we had to confu for the punt. Hell no,
Speaker 1: you didn't play well on defense. You gave up thirty
Speaker 1: eight points to a rookie quarterback and just this third start,
Speaker 1: and but y'all was close like men in eighth grade.
Speaker 1: You know, I've tried to have my hands down around
Speaker 1: the waist, and every once in a while I drop
Speaker 1: them a little lower. They talking about put your hands
Speaker 1: on the shoulder slow dancing. Don't try right put their
Speaker 1: hands over their shoulders. They're talking about slow dancing. I
Speaker 1: ain't over in the Halloween. I ain't franking stein Man.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. You don't try to get you know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get closed. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: don't try to get close.
Speaker 5: Right right right.
Speaker 1: They busted my hustle though, that washing them, But y'all
Speaker 1: hustling nights. It's fine.
Speaker 4: Listen, we're gonna be all right. We're gonna be alright.
Speaker 4: And listen, I'm trying not to get emotional. And I
Speaker 4: promise myself I wouldn't cry.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to be crying.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm crying too much on this damn show. In
Speaker 5: a minute, God damn. But but I think we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna be all right.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to I'm trying to remain optimistic. I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to throw the towel. And I think even at
Speaker 4: and three, we might be sitting here ten weeks from now.
Speaker 5: Hell, they might be ten and three.
Speaker 3: Hey, I got a tie where you can throw it.
Speaker 3: If you ain't got, we handed.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, we got we got with it takes though?
Speaker 1: What to what you mean to turn the season around?
Speaker 5: It's still early. It's only this week three. It's week three.
Speaker 1: We still got thirteen weeks to go.
Speaker 3: Okay, Gloria Stefan turned to beat around. Yeah, I'm waiting.
Speaker 5: Hey, it's it's possible.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: If there's anybody that can do it, Joe Burrow can
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 1: Man, we put man on the move. Hell, anything possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got people living right now with pigs heart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, anything possible. Hey, it ain't like we got
Speaker 1: Chase Chase Brown. Hey, all I do. The Broncos won,
Speaker 1: went on the road and doing a number on Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Who the Broncos got more vigories than the Bengals. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all won one game by love? Man, Come on, how
Speaker 1: many games have you won? Last I checked? One is
Speaker 1: more than none.
Speaker 3: Now, I ain't no mathematician, imagoros.
Speaker 4: But what what what you don't want to do is
Speaker 4: you don't want to put your foot in your mouth
Speaker 4: talk about your Broncos winning the game when.
Speaker 1: I'm just stating obvious we went on the road and
Speaker 1: beat Tampa. You'll at home. Who y'all got next week?
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. The only way y'all can catch us
Speaker 1: with the one loss record is y'all gotta win. We
Speaker 1: already got a dug.
Speaker 4: I guarantee the Bengals finished this season with a better record,
Speaker 4: and actually we'll be in the playoffs, unlike your Broncos.
Speaker 5: Now let's let's Broncos got the Jets.
Speaker 1: Bronco, we got the Jets. Oh game lost?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might will chalk that up because the way
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers looking right now, he gonna pass you out
Speaker 4: of home in there.
Speaker 3: Where they play a man in New York, it don't.
Speaker 4: Matter where they playing. It don't matter where they play.
Speaker 4: That definitely don't matter. Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Well, clearly don't matter where y'all play, because y'all lose wherever.
Speaker 1: Y'all losing Massachusetts, y'all go to Kansas, Missouri, y'all losing
Speaker 1: in Ohio. So clearly it don't matter where y'all play either.
Speaker 4: Okay, keep the same energy when we got telling you,
Speaker 4: keep the same energy when we get to the middle
Speaker 4: of the season.
Speaker 1: Oh, it'll be over you and I be Hey, we
Speaker 1: probably be reminiscent. It t all about hey tall about
Speaker 1: next season? Noah, no, not Hey.
Speaker 5: I just saw somebody in chat some about the Bangalsh
Speaker 5: tank to get Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1: Hey man, Hey, hey, they take if they won't you,
Speaker 1: Paul Brown, they paying nobody. He gonna stop cut, he
Speaker 1: gonna turn the direct department. Not on everybody. Jack the
Speaker 1: Pails robbing the Jags forty seven ten in Buffalo, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen led five touchdown drives in the first half. All
Speaker 1: five led with touchdowns. They had thirty four points at
Speaker 1: to have Josh Allen twenty three or thirty two sixty
Speaker 1: three four touchdowns in the game. Allen also rushed a
Speaker 1: forty four yards old six carry. The Bills have scored
Speaker 1: thirty points in each of their first three games. That's
Speaker 1: the first time since twenty eleven. Remember the concerns that
Speaker 1: a bollyhood about the Bills trading Stefan dig The Jags
Speaker 1: have lost the NFL worst eight straight games dating back
Speaker 1: to last season.
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence has started each game.
Speaker 1: He's joined Jim Pluckin as the only number one overall
Speaker 1: quarterback in the common draft. And I think the common
Speaker 1: draft goes back to nineteen sixty seven to have multiple
Speaker 1: losing streaks of at least eight or more games. Lawrence
Speaker 1: lost eight straight as a rookie in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: And when, at what point in time do we hold
Speaker 1: rebel Laards accountable and said he's not what we thought
Speaker 1: he was?
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, at what point do we now now
Speaker 5: got you?
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to guide me chat y'all gonna have
Speaker 4: to stay with me on this game, because obviously I
Speaker 4: was at the Bengals game tonight, so I wasn't able
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 5: The Bills demolished the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: I had no idea the score was like that, and
Speaker 4: I'm thinking to myself, I'm thinking, listen, the Bills. You
Speaker 4: lose when you are dominant targets and Stefan Diggs, and
Speaker 4: I had no idea what they would look like. I
Speaker 4: thought it would be a rebuilding process somewhat because Josh
Speaker 4: Allen is taking up so much of that money, so
Speaker 4: much of the cap space. It's only so much they
Speaker 4: can do offensively and putting pieces around him.
Speaker 5: But I don't know how they're doing it. But he's
Speaker 5: making it work.
Speaker 1: They making it work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and goddamn right now with the way Josh Allen's
Speaker 4: playing with them having thirty they scored thirty this week,
Speaker 4: the night they scored.
Speaker 5: Forty seven, they had thirty some last week.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken the first goddamn game, even though
Speaker 4: it's early and early in the season, Josh Allen would
Speaker 4: be the MVP front runner right now.
Speaker 1: Based on how he's playing. Well. I think that's with
Speaker 1: that miss target. Well, you have to look at it
Speaker 1: like this. Now, he was a different player once he
Speaker 1: got step Undeg. He's established himself now. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes. I don't know if Patrick Mahomes would
Speaker 1: have turned, he still could have been Pat Mahomes, but
Speaker 1: he had Tyreek. So he had Tyreek for those years,
Speaker 1: built his confidence, his ability. So now when you take
Speaker 1: Tyreek away, he's still Patrick Mahoons. You can't till he
Speaker 1: missed him other than the deep the deep shots that
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to connect on since he's been gone.
Speaker 1: But he went back to back Super Bowls. He's going
Speaker 1: to League MVP and he's a two time Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: So Josh Allen, because he had those years, he's grown,
Speaker 1: he's matured. Well, you can lose that piece once you
Speaker 1: become established. It's kind of like you starting a corporation,
Speaker 1: O Joe. You might now build that corporation. You need
Speaker 1: certain pieces, but once you get it going, you know
Speaker 1: how to operate without a big important piece.
Speaker 4: Wait, but okay, now that you say that, do you
Speaker 4: think that the Bills have an honest chance to get
Speaker 4: where they want to go? Obviously, compete for Lombardi Trophy
Speaker 4: in New without without without one special piece to be
Speaker 4: able to get the ball to Or is it better
Speaker 4: that he doesn't have a Stefan Diggs where he has
Speaker 4: to force the ball to enforce feed him and find
Speaker 4: ways of getting the ball to keep him happy, or
Speaker 4: you think it's better how the situation is now.
Speaker 1: I think I have a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: quarterback and how he handles that situation. A lot of
Speaker 1: guys like going to the go into a situation where
Speaker 1: it takes away from them because they're trying to keep
Speaker 1: X happy. Tom Brady knew how to do it. Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: like you said, he knew how to talk to Randy. Hey, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't got it to you yet, But don't think
Speaker 1: I ain't trying. Don't think I ain't looking. And you
Speaker 1: never saw anybody show Tom Brady up on the sideline. Happy,
Speaker 1: You never saw anybody show Peyton Manning on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Have you?
Speaker 3: You never saw anybody show up Patrick Mahomes. You see,
Speaker 3: there has to be a.
Speaker 1: Certain level of respect that works both ways in order
Speaker 1: for us, if we're a teammate, if we're both trying
Speaker 1: to do the same thing, don't show me up because
Speaker 1: guess what happens. Normally what happened when you show somebody up,
Speaker 1: you drop a couple and sometimes it's in crucial situations.
Speaker 1: And then way, so now the quarterback, the quarterback was like,
Speaker 1: you gonna feel some type of way. You have to
Speaker 1: always be cognizant of that o jo because the sun
Speaker 1: ain't gonna always be shining face.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's gonna be at your back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh yeah, I think you know Josh when
Speaker 1: he's dealing like this, when he doesn't turn the ball
Speaker 1: over him the only problem is turnovers. People to say
Speaker 1: he's overrated, I don't know what they're looking at, because
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen is overrated, well they're about twenty eight
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks that's over damn rays. Josh Hellen isn't overrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, listen, I think more so maybe he was.
Speaker 4: He's turnover prone and once he's been able to fix
Speaker 4: that with the decision making and most of the time
Speaker 4: and you be.
Speaker 1: Trying to do too much, Ojo. Every situation doesn't call
Speaker 1: for you to be Superman. Sometimes you can be Clark Kent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Odo. Sometimes you can put
Speaker 1: on your hat, your top coat and just drive.
Speaker 3: You don't have to save the world every single day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Listen, sometimes he get into that mode where he
Speaker 1: tries to save the game when that's not required of him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know he's to know when to change in
Speaker 1: that suit, right, m hmm. But Trevor Lawrence, he's lost
Speaker 1: eighty straight. Monday night also marked the first time Damar
Speaker 1: Hamlin has gotten an interception. It's been six hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty days prior to themar Hamlin. Remember that incident that
Speaker 1: happened in Cincinnati, o Jo, Yes, suffer cardiac Chris on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: They had to resuscitate him.
Speaker 1: They brought him back, and now he's starting for the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and he got his first interception tonight.
Speaker 5: Congratulations tomorrow, well deserved.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm very happy.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, where did I meet him?
Speaker 1: Man and man friend? Yeah? I made him in Free Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're on a panel. We actually we're on a panel
Speaker 1: discussion me he I and a goom okay and so yeah,
Speaker 1: great young man. Understand the ordeal that he went through.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's tough because you don't know. Yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: going to ever play again, that's the last thing on
Speaker 1: your mind when you're going through that situation. I'm sure
Speaker 1: all he was thinking about, let me get healthy, and
Speaker 1: I want to. I don't want my dream to end
Speaker 1: like this. This is not how I've got to at
Speaker 1: least try to get back, and if I get back,
Speaker 1: I can live. But at least I came back. That
Speaker 1: wasn't That's not what That's not what I want people
Speaker 1: to remember me for. It's lead laying on the field,
Speaker 1: non responses, being brought back. Then ride off into the sunset.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow. Congratulations, Bra, We're proud of you. We're rooting
Speaker 1: for you. You have a lot of support out here,
Speaker 1: not just your family, friends and loved one, but the
Speaker 1: entire football community was rooting for you. Congratulations on your
Speaker 1: first interception. This what's supposed to be marquee year for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins so far as turned into a night where
Speaker 1: as it stands, Tour will not be able to practice
Speaker 1: and play until Week eight at the earliest, and even
Speaker 1: that might be a hopeful timeline. While the schedule extremely
Speaker 1: favorable until that time, they get the Titans, Patriots, Coats,
Speaker 1: and Cardinals, it's tough to favor Miami and any of
Speaker 1: them based on their quarterback situation.
Speaker 5: Whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 4: Listen, brother, Sclet Thompson is hurt, Tyler Huntley is stepping in.
Speaker 1: Tyler hunter has played some.
Speaker 5: Good football when it's with the Ravens, Like, I think
Speaker 5: he can bring a little.
Speaker 3: Bit different though that was a run based offense based offense.
Speaker 5: And you know what, you know what I think, even
Speaker 5: from a.
Speaker 4: Passing standpoint, I think I think it'll be a little
Speaker 4: bit a little bit better than Skylet Thompson and being
Speaker 4: able to get that guy damn ball to wadle, being
Speaker 4: able to get that ball to cheese up, being able
Speaker 4: to get that baller. Yeah, I think we're gonna be
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be all right. Now that night,
Speaker 4: through a threat quarterback, he can pull it down the
Speaker 4: run with it when he needs to. It might not
Speaker 4: be as bad as you think. If he can, if
Speaker 4: he can, if he can get in the boys about it, maybe.
Speaker 5: The two and two.
Speaker 1: What it's bad? So you don't believe in Tyler hunting.
Speaker 1: You say it's not as bad as I think. I
Speaker 1: think it's worse.
Speaker 4: No, it's not as bad as you may think think
Speaker 4: it is. Okay, I'm not saying that we were bringing
Speaker 4: in Lamar Jackson. I ain't calling him Lamar Jackson. But man,
Speaker 4: he can play.
Speaker 1: You know, you know with a fridge. You know Hunley
Speaker 1: was a fridge in at one time. Right, here's a
Speaker 1: who a free agent? Yes, I mean any other thirty
Speaker 1: two other teams could any one of those other teams
Speaker 1: could have signed it.
Speaker 5: But sometimes you know they do that for you.
Speaker 3: You know that huh oh Jr. Stop not a Hugh
Speaker 3: a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They might do that to some other positions, not that position,
Speaker 1: because it's too valuable. It's too valuable a plot of land.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say something, but I ain't gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I don't even feel like being controversial. But
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. I let that one go. I
Speaker 1: think the thing is is that. Look there are Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill is available, Cam Newton is available. I don't don't
Speaker 1: know if Camp really wants to play or if he's
Speaker 1: in shape to play football. Dansmond Ritter who possible trade
Speaker 1: targets Bryce Young, Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz Wait to go
Speaker 1: where to Miami?
Speaker 4: Bright, Young, and Tour on the same team. I wonder what,
Speaker 4: I mean, what other quarterbacks out there that are familiar
Speaker 4: with that offense?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I like Carson wins ran a variance
Speaker 1: of it. Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson learned under Andy Reid.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid got the West Coast Carsel Mike Holgren. So
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a offshoot of it. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not like Kyle shanahan and Sean McVay and Mike
Speaker 1: McDaniel all those guys. Really yeah, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's an offshoot of it. Or they could tank and
Speaker 1: get the number one pick next year. Tank.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know how difficult it is.
Speaker 1: You might get and you might get Travis Hunter, or
Speaker 1: you could get your door.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, wait, Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: No, Miami, mote on from Jacksonville.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I'm thinking about the quarterback situation
Speaker 4: because I'm thinking about being a bus I hate using
Speaker 4: that word. I hate using that word for that position,
Speaker 4: especially when you go as high as number one.
Speaker 5: To Miami. Sh your door.
Speaker 1: Man, that's that's no, that's impossible.
Speaker 5: You just pay too, That's impossible, Damn man.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes people build a new house and sell it.
Speaker 1: What sometimes people build a new house and sell it?
Speaker 5: No, not really, not really, I've never I've never heard
Speaker 5: of that one.
Speaker 1: Yo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you build something, you're gonna be that longer
Speaker 5: than three or five years.
Speaker 1: No, I'm looking to flip.
Speaker 5: Are you trying?
Speaker 1: Maybe they gonna get Joe Flacco.
Speaker 5: Okay, now that now that's a good move you talk about.
Speaker 4: You want to you want to add a spark to
Speaker 4: your offense and not miss a beat or step.
Speaker 5: You go get your Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: He gonna push it down the field. Now he got
Speaker 3: an arm.
Speaker 5: There, you dot.
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna move.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: The Statue of Liberties move more than Joe Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: in the last hundred and seventy five years.
Speaker 3: Okay, one fifty. But anyway, you get where I'm going.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got you I got you.
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers. Fans, oh Joe are burning Brandon. I
Speaker 1: use jersey to do nothing. That's the point. That's why
Speaker 1: they bring That's why they burn in the jersey.
Speaker 4: Oh here they go. Man, come on now, man, fans
Speaker 4: we got, we got. Fans have to stopped being so fickled.
Speaker 4: You mean your branding. You listen, you paid for that jersey.
Speaker 4: You ain't hurting branding at all. You're not hurting them
Speaker 4: at all. But but did he did he do something
Speaker 4: wrong with the god him on fantasy fantasy team and
Speaker 4: they expecting the fact that he got all that money,
Speaker 4: he's supposed to come out out the gate having a
Speaker 4: phenomenal season. He had no trend what they expect. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's not That's not the way it works. That that's
Speaker 4: not the way it works.
Speaker 1: Where Justin Jefferson got paid, that's the way it worked.
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb got paid. He worked well, you know he
Speaker 1: got paid. It worked. So what you mean it's not
Speaker 1: the way it's spoiled to work. I mean Brown came
Speaker 1: out the gate fired until he hurt his hands straight.
Speaker 1: It worked, came out to gave fired, it worked.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to figure out what you mean, that's
Speaker 3: not how.
Speaker 1: It to work.
Speaker 4: You Notice everybody you just mentioned was in training camp
Speaker 4: except CD. Yeah, okay, yeah, just just making sure, just
Speaker 4: just showing you the importance of the portance of training
Speaker 4: camp and.
Speaker 5: How much how much is training camp doesn't matter, hey listen, oh.
Speaker 4: Shit me, oh it mattered you See though, Remember the
Speaker 4: first game he dropped those two balls. Remember end zone,
Speaker 4: the corner out of the corner around end zone that.
Speaker 3: We're right, Yeah, I saw, yeah for sure.
Speaker 4: And listen, I'm telling you as much as much you've
Speaker 4: been doing it all your life. We've been playing for
Speaker 4: the game of football all our life. There's a reason
Speaker 4: why you have practice. There's a reason why you have
Speaker 4: training camp, because in real time you want your handlin
Speaker 4: coordination to be open. Beyond you have to train the
Speaker 4: eye to be able to see that ball, no matter
Speaker 4: how easy you may think it is, because it at
Speaker 4: game tempo and game speed is.
Speaker 1: Different, especially at night, o Joe, because you know how
Speaker 1: to eat that ball to get lost up in those lives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't realize it quick.
Speaker 3: To go, I mean to go for like wop and
Speaker 3: then especially when that ball is up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you know. That's what I tell people.
Speaker 1: You catch the football with your eyes, not with your hands.
Speaker 1: People always no, no, no, no, You got to look that
Speaker 1: thing in and the objective is is to try to
Speaker 1: pick it up as quick as you can out of
Speaker 1: the quarterback saying yeah, because if you wait to that
Speaker 1: ball halfway going to the way down, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: And then plus it's harder to catch the ball once
Speaker 1: you once you jump or you die because your eyes jump. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so it's a hard throw, the hardest throw the
Speaker 1: catchers over the top because you got to track that
Speaker 1: ball from.
Speaker 4: You crack it, yeah, especially especially if it come over
Speaker 4: your shoulder to it.
Speaker 3: Because drop it out of yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you got to track that ball just like this,
Speaker 1: just like a base just like a baseball player. You
Speaker 1: see baseball players.
Speaker 3: How they track the ball and they catch it over
Speaker 3: the shoulder.
Speaker 1: Draft you with great at doing that, and you drones
Speaker 1: bets a lot of those center Willie May's great center
Speaker 1: fielders contract the ball.
Speaker 3: But guess what what do they say? They pick it
Speaker 3: up at the crack of the bat.
Speaker 1: Right, See if you win, if you don't hear that
Speaker 1: the crack of the bat, you don't know where to
Speaker 1: go and how fast you need to go to get there.
Speaker 1: So the objective is to try to pick that ball
Speaker 1: up as quick as you can out of the quarterback pan.
Speaker 5: And you know it's so, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 4: Sometimes depending on how deep the rod it is, you
Speaker 4: don't even see the ball lead a quarterback hand.
Speaker 1: You just see the offensive line and defensive line.
Speaker 4: You just see the ball. You just see the ball
Speaker 4: his hand. Yeah, try to track it the best way
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 1: That's why I always tell guys, the quickest, the best
Speaker 1: way to catch your football is to get your head
Speaker 1: around a sap. Yes, sir, give up because if you
Speaker 1: slow with your hair, you couldn't be slow with your
Speaker 1: head with John, because you're gonna hit you upside your dawn.
Speaker 1: Man if you ay, if you were slow and people
Speaker 1: don't realize he's throwing that ball forty miles an hour,
Speaker 1: that'shit hurt, right because you not expected. Just to imagine
Speaker 1: when somebody hit you upside your head. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to help it all. But that don't help, right, So
Speaker 1: snap your head around, get your eyes and try to
Speaker 1: catch the football. But y'all in trouble. Uh, Look I
Speaker 1: understand fans. Fans are upset that he's not off because
Speaker 1: remember how he parlayed into that contract a sensational last year,
Speaker 1: especially with Debo being out right, and so he stepped
Speaker 1: up and showed I can be a number one.
Speaker 3: So they just want that Debo. I look, I get it.
Speaker 5: It's coming.
Speaker 1: It's coming. Yeah, it's coming. Uh check this out O
Speaker 1: Joe ed Adam Shefter is reporting Tristian McCaffrey is seeing
Speaker 1: a specialist in Germany regarding his Achilles tendinitis.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't the forty nine ers be panicking?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going to see a specialist in
Speaker 4: Week three the football season, and the specialists all the
Speaker 4: way in Germany, which means all the resources that the
Speaker 4: NFL has that are actually right here in the States
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on, and you go to a
Speaker 4: specialist that far away.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That's why where you think where you think
Speaker 1: all the top guys go, where you think Tiger win?
Speaker 1: What do you think Manning win? What do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because you have to understand, in America they have
Speaker 1: certain standards that other countries will go above and beyond
Speaker 1: those standards. Mm hm.
Speaker 3: So if it's on somebody else dime. Hell yeah, I'm going.
Speaker 5: To Dame Achilless.
Speaker 3: Oh I had it. I had it in college my
Speaker 3: senior year.
Speaker 1: O Joe. Oh that thing was a b.
Speaker 4: So how did I mean, how does it work? Does
Speaker 4: it feel like you're gonna I.
Speaker 3: Feel like it's a sharp pain any time?
Speaker 1: Walk? Forget running, walking was a project. Walking was a problem.
Speaker 1: It's just like you never had ten of nighters in
Speaker 1: your knee or anything like that. But just imagine a
Speaker 1: ten of nighters in your key leads, man, I miss
Speaker 1: That was the only time that I had never missed
Speaker 1: practice in high school, had never missed college, practiced in
Speaker 1: college until my senior year. Think about it, know, Yoe,
Speaker 1: my senior year, I'm one of the top wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the country. Scouts every day, right, I got ice.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting out there not practicing. I got ice,
Speaker 1: but two weeks like I missed. I probably missed like
Speaker 1: six seven practices.
Speaker 5: Wait, how many games you missed?
Speaker 1: I ain't missed no game because it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was in the like as soon as we got
Speaker 1: the camp. What happened was the trainer TAKEE, take me
Speaker 1: too tight, and the tape and the tape cut into
Speaker 1: my KI leads and so that's that's that's what brought
Speaker 1: that's what that's what brought it on. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: I may or may not have gotten an injection in it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it at that. I know you're disposed to,
Speaker 1: but I just said I may or may not, and
Speaker 1: I will leave it at that.
Speaker 5: So he might miss a little bit more time.
Speaker 3: Oh, he gonna miss some time her. So that's a missing.
Speaker 1: That's only four weeks though. Yeah, okay, okay, they put
Speaker 1: him on Who I Are after the first game.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, so okay, he still got three more to go.
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of people go overseas, Joe,
Speaker 1: because you know America, the U s d A. They
Speaker 1: got standard. They can only spend it. You know, if
Speaker 1: they do that p r P and they do that
Speaker 1: stem cell, they can only spin it one of two times.
Speaker 1: You know. Germany, they spend that thing and they'll spend
Speaker 1: it again, and they'll put a little diss in here,
Speaker 1: and they put a little that in there. You know,
Speaker 1: they put a little hole.
Speaker 5: That's messed up. Man, I'm mad by this.
Speaker 1: But you're going there on a wheelchair. Oh joy, then
Speaker 1: you come out doing the tuesdie roll Ah. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I thought about I thought about going over there to
Speaker 1: getting your hips. Work. No, but they say, mister there
Speaker 1: you go, mister sharp. They said, mister sharp, the home bone.
Speaker 1: And right now we have a developed we have a
Speaker 1: developed a system that will go cartilage. He said, if
Speaker 1: you could go cartilage, I will tell you to go.
Speaker 1: You can't, he said, go and get stem cells and pere.
Speaker 1: He's all you're doing is waste your money because the
Speaker 1: insurance doesn't care cover it. Out.
Speaker 3: I said, man, let' me gonna get you a hundred
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Hips and your hits cost one hundred four thousand.
Speaker 3: Each, damn each each.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna push you over.
Speaker 1: That's cool, but it worked. Now they work.
Speaker 5: You go, oh yeah, we know you get back that
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 1: It's still soon. Let me get an.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, let's get let's get the least, get the okay.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna say it, No, I ain't gonna say that.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying you. I mean you said that you
Speaker 4: lad that was a layoup about yeah right right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, we know that you gave that. I
Speaker 1: gave your Alleen Hoover, you the boo you yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: You dunked over, you dunked it over. So many bad
Speaker 1: who I ain't mentioned nothing else about, no help or nothing.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, okay, I got you, I got you, I
Speaker 8: got you.
Speaker 1: Chris Long had some thoughts on coaches calming Jayalen Carter
Speaker 1: on the sideline doing the wind over the say. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to what he had to say on
Speaker 1: his podcast Greenlight.
Speaker 3: Hold On, hold On.
Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck what Jalen Carter does at
Speaker 7: the end of the game. He could have done it
Speaker 7: for three more minutes, flapping his gums at people, inciting
Speaker 7: people on the field, talking shit to whoever whoever you want.
Speaker 1: That's hold on.
Speaker 3: It's a war. It is a war out there.
Speaker 7: And if you haven't been in a game like that,
Speaker 7: don't tell Jalen Carter to calm down, because I like
Speaker 7: it when he cares. And if that's what, if that's
Speaker 7: how it manifests when this guy's locked in, then he
Speaker 7: needs to come to the stadium every week just like that.
Speaker 7: And that's what the vets are for. I would rather
Speaker 7: say woe than sick them and and I am totally
Speaker 7: fine with how he showed up to go to war yesterday.
Speaker 3: You like that, od Joe, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like it a little bit. I like it a
Speaker 5: little bit, but I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like Jaylen the part where were dismissing the
Speaker 4: coaches and them trying to calm them down.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you.
Speaker 4: Know, chirp, chirp a little bit, chirp a little bit,
Speaker 4: chirp a little bit, but not not be so dismissive
Speaker 4: of those trying to get you to settle down where
Speaker 4: it seems like you're almost uncontrollable. Like yeah, I just
Speaker 4: I don't like that part. But you know, listen, I'm
Speaker 4: all for it. Listen this me now, the the the
Speaker 4: the actual trash talker. I'm all for that, especially in
Speaker 4: a week, but doing it and in a in a
Speaker 4: controlled manner, you know, seeming like see being I rate
Speaker 4: in a sense where your coaches can't even come three
Speaker 4: of them can't even call me down and come on, now,
Speaker 4: come on. But I don't want to take away from
Speaker 4: Jaynen Carlon on what makes him him, that makes you
Speaker 4: you so be it, but just you know, be able
Speaker 4: to be able to to to kind of take heed
Speaker 4: of those that trying to get you calm down.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I never really got that upset.
Speaker 5: I didn't right right right right.
Speaker 1: Now now with the coaches. I mean, look, I think
Speaker 1: the thing is is that coaches kind of know like
Speaker 1: who to go at and who not to go at.
Speaker 1: I come off the field. You know, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: miss the block. I dropped the past, you know A
Speaker 1: you know normally like hey, eighty four, we need that.
Speaker 1: Come on, sharper you better than that. I get it.
Speaker 1: But you know, like coaches start talking too much. I
Speaker 1: just right, that's it.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's it, Okay, I heard you.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'd be like dollar Billo, make me say that
Speaker 1: if I said this helmet, Don's gonna be trouble. Trouble.
Speaker 1: But I but I see I see let bro, Bro.
Speaker 3: Calm down, yeah man, don sharp man.
Speaker 1: F dad man. I told him, But I said, Bro,
Speaker 1: I get it, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't like players like that.
Speaker 1: You can't control you, you Bro, you right knowing he
Speaker 1: dead ass wrong you.
Speaker 5: Right right right? Bro?
Speaker 1: The calm down the little hey Bro, what what you
Speaker 1: need from me? How can I help? No? Sharp, Man.
Speaker 1: I told the man stop, bro, Yes, it's calm down, hey,
Speaker 1: take it out of him. Don't be tearing up our sideline,
Speaker 1: throwing water cooler, the kicks, you know, kick shover him,
Speaker 1: get him. But it's tough on your bad cause you know,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of teammates like that. Man, Man, Sharp,
Speaker 1: you do why I gotta talk? Why Sharp gotta talk
Speaker 1: to it? He ain't even on sharp side of the football.
Speaker 1: Why I gotta talk to it?
Speaker 5: Gotta be crazy?
Speaker 1: Come on, bro, but you know, hey, you calm down, like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on now, we got a responsibility here. People look
Speaker 1: bad people looking. It's not gonna be a good look.
Speaker 1: You don't. Yeah, your family understand. Hey, let's let's calm
Speaker 1: this thing down. Let's get a levelhead about ourselves. Let's
Speaker 1: go out there places football kicks the mask. Let's get
Speaker 1: this dubb and gone home. We're gonna laugh about it
Speaker 1: on the plane. I just want you to know I'm
Speaker 1: a jone issue at you when I get on that bus. Now,
Speaker 1: just so you know, just so you ain't just ay man,
Speaker 1: go ahead on, man, that's all you do. You joke
Speaker 1: all the time. Sharp, You ain't nothing serious. I don't.
Speaker 3: Definitely not you, definitely not you being upsett on this sideline.
Speaker 4: I don't acting a backing of fool plump food.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker wildly reviewed as the greatest kicker hearing Adam Militarry. However, However,
Speaker 1: through the first three games, Tucker is just five of
Speaker 1: eight on field goal attempts, and he's missed at least
Speaker 1: one field goal in every game thus far, including a
Speaker 1: forty eight yard in the fourth quarter. After the game,
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh acknowledged tucker struggles. I said that yesterday. Oh
Speaker 1: people jumped on my timeline.
Speaker 5: It ain't.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we've been together for a long time. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of conversation. He's everything you want, the
Speaker 1: player and the free and for Justin, I guess just
Speaker 1: a technique issue right now.
Speaker 3: He's working through. He knows exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: It just needs to smooth it out, smooth it and
Speaker 1: smooth it back out. I'm very confident he will. O Jo.
Speaker 3: Will kicking problem be a problem for the Ravens?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: Listen, Justin Tucker is arguably maybe one of the greatest
Speaker 4: kickers of all time, and just like baseball. Sometimes sluckers
Speaker 4: they go into a slump and they know what they did.
Speaker 4: They know what they need to do to put themselves
Speaker 4: out that slump. Listen, when it comes to kicking, Justin
Speaker 4: Tucker knows what he needs to do. That's what he
Speaker 4: needs to do. All you do is go back to
Speaker 4: the basics. You go back to the basics, get yourself
Speaker 4: into a routine, and get yourself into a rhythm with
Speaker 4: those basic fundamentals that you learn when you first started kicking.
Speaker 4: And then sometimes you get away from those things. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you get away from those things. And I think once
Speaker 4: he does that, just Tucker will be all right, He'll
Speaker 4: be fine. And this is coming from a kicker.
Speaker 1: So I think the bigger issues for the Ravens of
Speaker 1: them damn penalties. They had twelve again yesterday. Ojoe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be that that You look, You'll hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't come down for a kick, because Justin Tucker has
Speaker 1: a rookie Cook kicked the Baltimore Ravens to the to
Speaker 1: the you know, he beat the Broncos. They went in
Speaker 1: the divisional round of the playoffs, and he hit the
Speaker 1: field goal as an undrafted rookie and he hasn't looked
Speaker 1: back since he's a clutch kick after clutch kick, he's
Speaker 1: won a lot of ball games. He's the NFL record
Speaker 1: holder for phield goals sixty six yards, although Aubrey almost
Speaker 1: broke it yesterday. He kicked a sixty five yarder with
Speaker 1: the difference of a sixty five yarder in the first
Speaker 1: quarter versus a sixty six yard at the end of
Speaker 1: the game to win you the game. That's the difference
Speaker 1: between Adam van Terry. That's the difference between Justin Tucker.
Speaker 1: A lot of kickers got legs, but can you make
Speaker 1: it when it matters. If you miss this, you're going home.
Speaker 1: It's so much difference. But you know, a lot of it,
Speaker 1: like you said, a lot of it is right here. Yeah. Mental,
Speaker 1: We've seen We've seen baseball players. We've seen Chuck nd
Speaker 1: blocks Steve Hey. They get the yips and they can't
Speaker 1: the ball right here. They can't get anything, David do
Speaker 1: ball in Baker Fish guys get the yips. It's hard.
Speaker 1: If anybody can do it, Tuck can boy. Kicking is
Speaker 1: is much more mental.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, most definitely, especially especially when the game is
Speaker 4: on the line.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, kind of pressure. You know what kind
Speaker 5: of pressure that is when the game is on the
Speaker 5: line as a kicker.
Speaker 4: And I can tell you, you know, I'm not telling you
Speaker 4: what I heard him telling you what I know because.
Speaker 1: The game was on the line for me with the Bengals.
Speaker 4: It might have been a preseason game against the Patriots,
Speaker 4: but the game was sitting on the line.
Speaker 5: You know, I had to make the kick because our
Speaker 5: kicker went down.
Speaker 4: And you know, you know, I'm I'm I'm perfect as
Speaker 4: a kicker in the NFL, so so technically I could
Speaker 4: probably be the greatest kick of all time.
Speaker 1: That isn't talked about. That's the reason. But I wish
Speaker 1: took the best man. Look, obviously everybody knows my team
Speaker 1: is the Broncos. Played twelve years from them, but I
Speaker 1: did get two years in Baltimore, and so that's the
Speaker 1: team I root.
Speaker 3: For a second, I want the Ravens to do well.
Speaker 1: Like I said a lot of people that that when
Speaker 1: I was there, Oh ho, they're gone, They're gone. Steve
Speaker 1: man Shotty was the minority owner. He ended up buying
Speaker 1: the team, but Ozzy is still there. Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: that's really the only connection that I have because everybody
Speaker 1: else is really gone, and I don't bother him that
Speaker 1: much anymore. But Steve has always told me, look you
Speaker 1: walking with open arms. Hey, you know you and os
Speaker 1: I know you, and ours relationship is great, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough to like be put in a
Speaker 1: situation where like I can't because think about how many
Speaker 1: games that they've won because of a kid, and just
Speaker 1: to think that they could possibly be in a different situation.
Speaker 1: The copse of a kick doesn't sit well with me,
Speaker 1: but hopefully he turns it around. The Ravens got back
Speaker 1: on the winning track last week against against the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and hopefully they can build some momentum and get a
Speaker 1: couple of dubs up under their belt. Pittsburgh looks good,
Speaker 1: but we'll see what they could do they step up
Speaker 1: and play in the division, because I don't think the
Speaker 1: Steelers have played the division game, have they? I don't
Speaker 1: think they played the division game yet. Reggie Bush, the
Speaker 1: former US running back, had had his heisband return back
Speaker 1: in April. Now he's suing the n c A, a
Speaker 1: USC and the PAC twelve. He's seeking compensation for the
Speaker 1: use of his name, image and likeness. While he was
Speaker 1: with the program. In the suit, which was fouled today,
Speaker 1: Bush's lawyer alleged that all three entities made a lot
Speaker 1: of money off the running back, who was an enormous
Speaker 1: star when he played at with the Trojans. They named
Speaker 1: TV contracts, merchandise sales, and meteorites has just three of
Speaker 1: the revenue streams that Bush's popularity influenced. His lawyer said,
Speaker 1: this case is not about seeking justice for Reggie. It's
Speaker 1: about setting up the president for fair treatment for all
Speaker 1: college athletes. Our goal is to rectify the injustice and
Speaker 1: paid the way for a system where athletes are rightfully recognized, compensated,
Speaker 1: and treated fairly for their contributions.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, how do you chat? How do y'all
Speaker 5: feel about it? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: I think him suing for his likeness during that time
Speaker 4: based on the money that was being made, which is
Speaker 4: it could be up the upwards to who knows, it
Speaker 4: could be a godly amount. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody
Speaker 4: like like Reggie Bush, you know, especially during his day,
Speaker 4: during his day during.
Speaker 1: It, oh yeah, in Hollywood with those big oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what oh yeah? I mean you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like Cam you look at a guy like t BO.
Speaker 1: You look at a guy like Johnny Manziela, got Reggie Bush,
Speaker 1: you talk about or it's young and you at you ut,
Speaker 1: you talk about some of the biggest stars in college football. Ever. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can go back and do that,
Speaker 1: because then you gonna open up Pandora's box. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they go a lot of guys that would Barry say,
Speaker 1: well how about you think Oklahoma State made on me?
Speaker 1: And you go get a lot of the other guys
Speaker 1: they come back and say, loldof Tim Tebow in Florida.
Speaker 3: Damn go like Aubrey y'all think about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know it's never been done before.
Speaker 4: So there's a chance, the chance that he that he
Speaker 4: has an opportunity to win this, you know, because maybe
Speaker 4: he didn't have a chance. I mean, he would be
Speaker 4: his lawyers would tell him listen, that really makes it
Speaker 4: really makes no sense to even go through with this
Speaker 4: and waste the money. But the fact that his lawyer makes.
Speaker 1: Sure they're probably saying they're doing this, they're doing this
Speaker 1: as part to get a percentage and just in case
Speaker 1: he does win, because you know, you know, settlements you
Speaker 1: get thirty three percent. Sometimes lawyers take forty percent.
Speaker 5: Dang, yeah, man, they do put in a lot of
Speaker 5: work though, so I kind of understand.
Speaker 3: It's time for rough draft.
Speaker 1: Today's prompt is best NFL rookie season. I'm go first.
Speaker 3: Let's do it cut, let's do the let's do the promo,
Speaker 3: let's do the graphics.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I like this. I like this. Yeah, I got this one,
Speaker 1: my first one. Oh yo, you finla lose, you feel lose.
Speaker 1: You ain't won it like three weeks. Why are you
Speaker 1: going first?
Speaker 3: Because you went first last time. That's why I'm going first.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, all right? First up for me,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Eric Dickerson his rookie season. He rushed for
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred and eight eighteen hundred yards, the rookie of
Speaker 1: the year, and later we know what he did. He
Speaker 1: next season he ran for twenty one oh five. So
Speaker 1: I got Eric Dickerson up first.
Speaker 4: Okay, my first one, My first. A lot of people,
Speaker 4: especially unless you're a defensive person, you might not like this.
Speaker 4: But if you Washington played during during the day back
Speaker 4: during this day, especially was it in college. I'm going
Speaker 4: with Javon Hurst, his rookie year.
Speaker 1: Okay for me, I'm taking Randy Moss. If you saw
Speaker 1: his rookie season, Randy Moss was Ay, he was the Moss.
Speaker 1: He was a real deal. He was a real deal.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, speaking of receivers says, I'm a
Speaker 4: piggyback off what you just said. Another receiver who had
Speaker 4: a hell of a guy damn rookie season. And his
Speaker 4: name is Jamar Jamar mcthaniel Chase.
Speaker 1: All right, you like him. You know who I'm going with.
Speaker 1: I'm going number three. I'm going j stride. You know what.
Speaker 5: That was historic, That was a historic season. That was
Speaker 5: the historic season.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't you want to give up now later?
Speaker 5: No, oh, you're finna lose it. The next one listen.
Speaker 5: Arguably maybe one of the greatest running backs of all time.
Speaker 4: And Barry Sanders. Yeah that Gary Sanders is the one
Speaker 4: he played in Detroit. They called it Motown at Ford Fiet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me see. Yeah, i'me on that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose this. You know who I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: and Rookie of the Year in his rookie season, chadell
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 5: Listen, you think about Lawrence Taylor and his totality.
Speaker 4: We talking about his rookie year, his rookie year, the
Speaker 4: year nine, and he only had nine and a half
Speaker 4: sacks first of all half second.
Speaker 1: Oh joe, you do realize the fact didn't become an
Speaker 1: official stat until nineteen eighty two. He came into the
Speaker 1: league at nineteen eighty one Player of the Year and
Speaker 1: and rookie defensive Rookie of the Year. How many guys
Speaker 1: have ever done that?
Speaker 5: Listen, had nine and a half sacks and saying, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna piggyback off for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the defensive player too. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go to the demons a player. And his rookie year
Speaker 4: was also phenomenal. He had thirty six solo tackles with
Speaker 4: nine sacks. Maybe the greatest Stevens the tackle of all
Speaker 4: time who just happened to retire in Aaron Donald, Okay,
Speaker 4: talk about.
Speaker 1: I like that, it's over. It's old for you. You
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 3: I might give you a chance to come back, but
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna.
Speaker 1: Who you got. I would go way way, way way back.
Speaker 5: You know what, how far back.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna go that far back. I will imnna
Speaker 1: let him be my honorable mission. Yeah, you know who
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Ojoe. We just had it last year,
Speaker 1: hook in the coupa.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, that's a good one. Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 5: That's a good one. I can't even.
Speaker 1: I can't even.
Speaker 5: I can't even.
Speaker 4: I can't even argue that because he was he was
Speaker 4: on fire last year. Uh so this is my honorable
Speaker 4: mention right now?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yep, No, you got five. This is number five for you.
Speaker 5: Okay, number five. Thanks. I don't win. I don't win
Speaker 5: defense twice.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, you know what, I'm gonna go, Cam
Speaker 4: new I'm gonna go brun Cam Newton rookie year. Four
Speaker 4: thousand plus yards two to one TD, seven hundred seventy
Speaker 4: yards on the ground.
Speaker 5: What's yeah? Yeah, I'm going Cam Newton rookie year. That's
Speaker 5: my fit. Okay, um hmm, yeah, you definitely you definitely
Speaker 5: lost this rough draft this time. Oh no, trust me
Speaker 5: and the chat.
Speaker 1: The chat.
Speaker 5: Listen, the chat is one thing about them. They don't
Speaker 5: lie and they will tell you you lost.
Speaker 1: Where do I want to go? You know who? I
Speaker 1: like that unbelievable rookie season?
Speaker 3: O't Joe?
Speaker 1: Do I want to go quarterback? You don't want to
Speaker 1: go running back? You can go.
Speaker 5: D d had a crazy, crazy rookie.
Speaker 1: Sees you should have put you should have picked him.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying you stuck. I'm just giving you
Speaker 5: an option.
Speaker 1: Nah, Hey, I about you know what I about even
Speaker 1: put my rookie season at a mention. I got to
Speaker 1: hear Dixon random ball seat poking the core. That's a
Speaker 1: nice little lineup. It ain't better than mine. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: way better your, don't you your yr yo? I ain't
Speaker 1: saying yours some stir fried, but I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: ain't good. No, hold on, Oh I gotta take a rest.
Speaker 1: Is soul red ye white Woo.
Speaker 5: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: If y'all didn't get an opportunity to see this man
Speaker 1: play and see him up close and personal, because I
Speaker 1: saw him in his prime. I'm talking about at his
Speaker 1: absolute apex. Yeah. I saw him with the Eagles in
Speaker 1: ninety two, I saw him in ninety three, I saw
Speaker 1: him in ninety six and I saw him in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So I'm talking about at his absolute apex.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Reggie. I like that. That's it.
Speaker 5: Listen, can't argue, can't even argue that.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Uh dangn That was a good one, boy. That thing
Speaker 5: that Reggie went, that that Reggie one kind of knocked
Speaker 5: out the box, Broy, But.
Speaker 1: I had I had a show head on, Tony. You
Speaker 1: waved before I got the reggae right right?
Speaker 5: Oh shoot, I did Cam Aaron Donald, I got Barry
Speaker 5: Javon Kurs.
Speaker 1: You don't want Justin Jefferson. You don't want d Say
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley Odell no hold on, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5: I'm looking for you know, some of some. I'm looking
Speaker 5: for another iconic figure kind.
Speaker 1: I'll give you one.
Speaker 3: I'll let you take Gail's fears.
Speaker 5: You know what, I got one of them from L.
Speaker 1: S U.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Justin Jefferson as my honorble mention it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I told you that. And you know who I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with my last honible MITTR.
Speaker 7: Pick.
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner.
Speaker 5: Is rookie here yeap. When he came from the CNFL. Yep,
Speaker 5: he was all right, he was all right, he was
Speaker 5: all right, he was all right, he was all right. Listen,
Speaker 5: I won, I won that. List to
Speaker 1: The volume