1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Novel. This show contains adult material and swearing. You have 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: been warned. I love your accent. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: There's both people listening who are like, what the fuck? 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: I don't even understand it. She's gone too before. Sometimes 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: I listened back to stuff before and I'm like, I 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: needed to have like subtitles walking around with me, around me, 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm a savage. 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Are you bored of modern dating? Meeting the same people 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: from the same apps in the same bar You've only 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: chosen because it's close to your house and you can 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: make your usual quick getaway. It's time to change the 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: narrative on how we find love. It's time to start 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: looking for love in all the wrong places. I'm going 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: on a wild dating adventure, only picking people who were 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: the toe opposite of my type. And after twenty eight 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: of these dates in two months, will I find that 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: special someone? 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: Or well? 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: This experiment proved that I should just give up on 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: dating altogether. It's time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and this is twenty eight dates later. 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: Grace, what's the story? How are you? 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I'm very good? It's a yeah, kind of busy week, 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: but I'm living for another date. Story to spice up 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: my very monogamous life. 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I have decided I feel like you and load of 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: people in my life live vicariously through me, and I'm 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: not sure whether or not that makes me feel good 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: or bad. I can't explain it. It's like I feel 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: like I'm doing all of these things so that none 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: of you have to, so that we have things to 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: talk about. 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: You know what. It's not so none of us have to. 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: It's like I wouldn't be brave enough to go on 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: twenty eight dates with loads of random people and put 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: myself out there. And I haven't been so long. Like, 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: as I said, I've been a serial relationship girls since 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: I was like sixteen. 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: That is crazy. 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: So if there's anything I ever regret is that I 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: didn't date more. 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're making me not regretted. 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 46 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm going through it so that you don't have to, 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, have to be like, oh, do you know what? 49 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Maybe I do want to go on in. 50 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: So the date of the week, the date of the week. 51 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Her name is Becky and I've been like set up 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: with her by a friend. 53 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: So sorry, this is your first date with the girl 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: that we've spoken about. 55 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: So I went on another date with a different girl 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: like already for the podcast, which was really good. And 57 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: this was someone who I've been set up with by 58 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: a friend. I was I was quite nervous on this 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: dage Grace. 60 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: This is how guys feel like going on dates with you. 61 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: I think this is the other thing is I'm never 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: intimidated by men, So when I'm on a date with 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: a man, I'm never intimidated because I'm I'm intimidating. 64 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Can I just say, I am so excited to hear 65 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: your date with a woman because I don't know what 66 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: that dynamic is going to be. Like like obviously me 67 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: and you and we're mean, and we're like friends, we 68 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: have Socia Gray crack, but like, I don't know, I 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: just can't. I just cannot wait to hear this dynamic. 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like it's one of the other things 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: that's been beneficial about this podcast is exploring the fact 72 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: that I probably will at points in my life date 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: women and get with women. I feel like I have 74 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: a very bisexual energy, Like women always think that I'm bisexual, 75 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: and like people always think I'm bisexual. I think that 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the thing that I've maybe like found hard at the 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: beginning of thinking about dating women is I'm like, I'm 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: such a girl's girl that, like, on date, I just 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: end up like befriending you and they we're best friends, 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, I don't really 81 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: know how to have that bibras with men, Like I'm like, 82 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: have you ever swallow drone? 83 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: Come? 84 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: She told me on the day, like right early on, 85 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: that she was actually about to move to New York, 86 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that's kind of man. And 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: I just also come back from New York. 88 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: So, like, do you think it's ever a good idea to 89 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: start seeing or dating someone who's about to move away? 90 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't think so, do you. 91 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: I would I would go for it if I was 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: just like, oh, this person's moving away. I feel like 93 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: it would actually take the pressure off and like you 94 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: could have a bit of fun. 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what if you developed feelings for them? 96 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Well, there's some things that Facetimeshi. 97 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, Whenever I've been about to move away 98 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: for periods of time, I just categorically don't date because 99 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to get in a relationship 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: or get attached to anyone yeah, and then not go yeah. 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's different. I think if you're the one 102 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: who's moving away, you don't want to hinder that, and like, yeah, 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, I'm leaving something good behind. 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Because that's the thing, that's what's always happened to me. 105 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh my god, imagine if I 106 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: stayed for that fucking loose Thank god I didn't. She'd 107 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: literally like come back from a festival that morning and 108 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: it like comes straight to meet me and she went 109 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: like at this like crazy heavy metal festival all weekend. 110 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: So initially I was like, oh my god, like, that's 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that's my idea of Hell. 112 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: You were at a festival this weekend? 113 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: How was it? 114 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: It was wonderful. Resistance Festival. I've got the band picture. 115 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Do I take that off? I tend to keep bands 116 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: on for at least a couple of weeks, just to 117 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: remind myself I'm still alive, you know, right. But it's 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: called Resistance Festival, and it's like a quite small, like 119 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: industrial metal festival in the UK. 120 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: But what does the industrial metal I've had a nine 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: inch nails No really? 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, I'm too young for that's how old nails? 123 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: How old? 124 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: How do you think? I don't know. I thought you 125 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: were like, yeah, I'm a bit of a name, mur 126 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 4: I could be anything. 127 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get everything in between. So yeah, I want 128 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to say, like you're like that you on not that wrong. 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: I'm thirty FORUL this year. 130 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to say I found out nine 131 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: inch Nails is like a heavy metal band. 132 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Grace even I knew that. Really, Yeah, how I 133 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: suppose I do work in radio, but like. 134 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard of them because I only listened 135 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: to Igo. There you go. Still, what did you think 136 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: of that? 137 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: You're so mellow in it? I can't get over how 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: like calm, and it's like you're It's how I imagined 139 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: all your dates would be. Like you're very just like 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: asking normal questions like what age you like, what are 141 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: you into? And it's funny that, like I'm only hearing 142 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 2: this now. 143 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: At the beginning, when she was talking about the heavy 144 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: metal stuff, I was a bit like, oh god, because 145 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: that's just like really like, I'm so on the other 146 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. But I think it's harder with 147 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: me when I'm on a date with a woman to 148 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: like gauge like whether or not it's just like great 149 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: because I'm talking to a woman. For instance, like when 150 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: I went on the date with the couple, I remember 151 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: just wanting to talk to the woman in that situation 152 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 1: because I prefer women to men just in terms of chat, 153 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: like I prefer talking to women like I obviously can 154 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: relate to them more. I feel like my humor is 155 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: very like female centric. So at this point that we've 156 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: just listened to, though, I was still a bit like, oh, 157 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I just felt a bit like 158 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: in my head, she was way older than thirty four, 159 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: like she had her shit together, she was so she 160 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: was older than me as well, and she's just like 161 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: well traveled and worldwide than me. Like I felt like 162 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: a fucking sheltered little baby. What's your like dating landscape 163 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: at the moment? 164 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: Dating landscape so bisexual, polyamorous. 165 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: Don't know whether you're familiar with that very much though, 166 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah good. 167 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: But I've got partners everywhere, say everywhere, I've got lots 168 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: of you know that I wish I had that time 169 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: to time, but I've got I've got someone in London, 170 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: I've got someone Indonesia and BALI, okay, go and see 171 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: them as often as I can as well. 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's kind of like a step up into 173 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: it's okay serious with them. 174 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, when did you meet them? 175 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: I met them through friends quite so recently. 176 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm not going to say exactly when it's slightly embarrassing, 177 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: but yeah, not lot so long ago. But you know, 178 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: when you just have a good, good light rapport with 179 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: somebody and they're very much like me, they want us 180 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: both to have the freedom to do whatever we want 181 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: wherever we want, you know, so I think it'll be 182 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: a nice thing to be closer to them. 183 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Can I just say When I was listening to her 184 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: talk about all of her different partners, I was just like, 185 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I can't even find one person I like. 186 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Can I imagine having three. 187 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: To four people that you like so much you would 188 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: fly around the world to see them. 189 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: She must have really good time management, like I got 190 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: kind of actually got kind of like a wave of 191 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: tiredness when she's talking about all the people she's with, 192 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: because honestly, like, can I just say, like I was 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: just thinking today, I was like, I hardly like me 194 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: and my boyfriend were so busy boat working kind of 195 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: music slash entertainment industry. Like we hardly get to see 196 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: each other, and then when you do, like you want 197 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: to make an effort and like having to keep that relationship, 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: make sure you're always talking back to them, even with 199 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: your friends. I'm like, having multiple partners is just like 200 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: just the. 201 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: Time Ross I get in trouble with so many people 202 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: all the time for not replying to messages. I'm so 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: bad at applying to messages. It's a really bad personality trait, 204 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and it's developed the more busy I am. I can't 205 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: imagine being in an emotional relationship with three different people 206 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: on different fucking time zones. One of them's in Bali, 207 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: one of them is in the Marria, Like those are 208 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: completely different times. And on her home screen on her 209 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: phone she had the three clocks. Well, I think there 210 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: was the fourth one. There was another person somewhere I 211 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: can't remember. There's quite a lot of admin. 212 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: How many people do you think you could date it once? 213 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: So I've before dated like three people at the same 214 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: time and it's ended up only really being that many 215 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: people for like a month, because then it just becomes 216 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: complicated and I end up liking one of them more. 217 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: But I could not be in like that many like 218 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: actual long term relationships over periods of time for that. 219 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: Long, and never mind like them all being at different 220 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: time zone. 221 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: No exactly. 222 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: I do question, like, of course you like them, You've 223 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: only seen them like a few times a year. 224 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I know, and you're not living with them. Once you 225 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: live with someone, there's to whether or not you like them. 226 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: What was the story with you? The one in New York? 227 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: And she was kind of embarrassed by whole long they 228 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: were going to. 229 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: She I think she'd only met them, like quite recently, 230 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: and then now she's moving to New York. Do you 231 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: think she was embarrassed about like how little she knew 232 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the person? 233 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: And look, I get it, like if you really fall 234 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: for someone hard, there is no timeline of like when 235 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: you should move in and all that kind of stuff. 236 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: And I guess it's just interesting because what she's saying 237 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: is she's in love with multiple people at once. Yeah, 238 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: all power to you if you are capable of that. Well, listen, 239 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: good for her, Like I find being in love with 240 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: one person so exhausting and stressful that I'm just not sure. 241 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: You could go through your whole lifetime and meet someone 242 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: in your love. 243 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe she loves too easily. Yeah, possibly because 244 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: I'm finding it really hard at the moment to even 245 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: want to go on a second date with someone. 246 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And can I just say, how where the hell 247 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: is she meeting all these people? 248 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: I go to lots of festivals, I work lots of festivals, and. 249 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: I used to be an actress format kind and so 250 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: I did I know a lot of people from the 251 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: performing worlds? 252 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Mat is that when you're met? 253 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a Bartley guy. 254 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but we met from a big crazy 255 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: mansion party in Norfolk when I was doing a bilesque. 256 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 4: Kind of thing. 257 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: If he's a DJ and a couple of other people, 258 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: the one that's in Spain at the moment of both 259 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 3: at Boomtown when I was actually performing there. I was 260 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: doing this immersive acting thing and the other guy DJ 261 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: at one of the burns in Miami. Wow. 262 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, worldwide, I mean look at you. Wow. 263 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: Sorry, miss worldwire like she's did like so she definitely 264 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: also like, honestly, what are. 265 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: Your air miles? 266 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Girl? 267 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: Like? 268 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: How much are you traveling around? Can I also just say, 269 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, but Boomtown the 270 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: festival that she just referenced is like the most Oh, 271 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to be rude, but it's like proper 272 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Creston vibe. When I went to boom Down, I was like, 273 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: get me out of here. I went for like six hours. 274 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: It was like my worst idea of how like everybody 275 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: was mushing and like really like hardcore like raver, but 276 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: like not like in a fun glasson brew Way, Like 277 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: it was too much. So the fact that she met 278 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: with Boomtown really makes me imagine what that person is like. 279 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: But she obviously has a type. Like they all seem 280 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: to be like DJ's or something. 281 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: DJs I think like, but I also think former Yeah, 282 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: but then one of them is like a yoga teacher 283 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: in Bali, Like they're going by he was a yoga teacher. 284 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: If you could only date people within your profession, who 285 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: do you think you'd end up going it with? 286 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: If I could date any comedian juine. 287 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because like she's obviously Ana, but who she 288 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: basically meets all of her boyfriends to work pretty much. 289 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: You asked me, like, there are comedians I would love 290 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: to date, Okay, because I loved it, but I don't 291 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: know them. They're on in America, like Eric Andre I 292 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: like love him so much. I'm just I'm gonna put 293 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: that out there because I'm manifesting. I actually met a 294 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: buff Irish comedian the other day. 295 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: Tell me who was it. 296 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say his name, but I'll send you 297 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: to Instagram. He was fit, and also it was really good, 298 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Like basically we did stand up like we're doing a 299 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: gig together, and he went on before me, and he 300 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: had had this whole bit about how much he loves 301 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: having sex with women when they're on their period, and 302 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: did this whole bit about it. Then I went up 303 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I fucking love men who love 304 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: having sex on their period. 305 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh no, I need to find 306 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: out who this is immedia. 307 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: It's like I was so horny watching that, but he'd 308 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: fucking left, so he never watched my set, so because 309 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: I'd done it to be like, let's fuck, and then 310 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: he never watched my wh I never smoked with me. 311 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: Great, did these line distance relationships seem fruitful? Did she 312 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: say how often she spoke to them, saw them? 313 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: Like? 314 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: What was the story? Yeah? 315 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I asked, I asked her what it was like with 316 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the guy from New York and how much they spoke. 317 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: We talk quite well. 318 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 3: And the time difference with me and him is the 319 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 3: biggest problem I'm had so far, because I have to 320 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: work mostly nine to five. 321 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: Well actually more often it's like nine to seven, but 322 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, that's a that's the corporate life. 323 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: But he starts work in New York about like and 324 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: I say, seven am. 325 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: Or something like that. 326 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: But he'll get home just as I'm kind of going 327 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: to them. Yeah, yeah, so we all have like so, 328 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: and obviously I want to talk to him. I want 329 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: to do you know, a phone or video call whatever. 330 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: Then there will be something like two am. On my side, 331 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: I've still got to get up at seven am, whereas 332 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: he's got the rest of his evening left to go. 333 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: That'll be interesting when you go. It will be interesting 334 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: when I go, because like, that's the thing with any 335 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of time difference. 336 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Grace, have you ever done long distance? 337 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 4: No? 338 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: Have you? 339 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: I did once. So I've seen this guy who lived 340 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: in Italy and we were doing long distance. I was 341 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: living in New York at the time, and we pretty 342 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: much just facetimed every single day and would message and stuff. 343 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: But then it was weird because eventually just fizzled out, 344 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: like we didn't call it a day, But it was 345 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: because we were living completely different lives, completely different time zoned. 346 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I'll never forget I started to see someone because we 347 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: weren't really official. It was kind of like we were 348 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: long distance dating, but we're in girlfriend and boyfriend. 349 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: And also when you're not physically saying them like oh 350 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: they real. 351 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we were on zoom and stuff. 352 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: But if you've not known them for very long, like 353 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: how real are they? Yeah? 354 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: And I remember then like he had an absolute meltdown 355 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: that I started just dating another guy. And then that's 356 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: when I kind of cut him off because I was like, 357 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: we're not seeing each other, like, you know, unless you're 358 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: going to come and get a flight over like I'm 359 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: not going to. And I remember I booked a flight 360 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: to go see him in the morning, off I didn't go. 361 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: I just got this weird feeling. I just didn't want 362 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: to go. 363 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: But that's good in a way. It's like, imagine if 364 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: you'd have changed the path of your life to go 365 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: and see him, and actually you knew it wasn't right. 366 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: I could be living in Positana right now. 367 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is that where he lived. 368 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: No, but he lives somewhere in Italy. 369 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, right was the Italian? 370 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: No, he's Brazilian? 371 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Right? Oh wow, miss world? 372 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Why miss I do have to say? Like she has 373 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: a really nice accent. She's got a great voice, like 374 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I have to say, Like I was going to listen 375 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: to her, and I was like, she could be from anywhere. 376 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Hmm, couldn't she got a husky voice. Where did you 377 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: grow up? 378 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: I grew up just south of Birmingham. 379 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh wow, like shed the accents. 380 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: Along the way. 381 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: I'm very glad that I did not know if I was. 382 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Of course, let's you know. 383 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: I found career wise, it was probably big good idea 384 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: to have. 385 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: I love. 386 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: So everybody who isn't from there does I don't know. 387 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: People are really rude about it, like people are really 388 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: unnecessarily romantic language, Like I like, it's really nice. I 389 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: just was there on tour and had such a good time. 390 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Just for anyone listening. If you don't know, brame accent 391 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: is if you're from Birmingham and it's quite can you 392 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: are you good accents? 393 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: No? 394 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't even think what a Birmham accent. 395 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: It's the peaky blinders, Like it's the accent. 396 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's sexy. 397 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's fair. I think accent is fair, 398 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: but that's an unpopular opinion. People really hate it, but 399 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I think it's fair. I've got some rummies before. 400 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: Great, So I was going to ask you, have you 401 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: ever had to change your accent for work? But you 402 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: definitely have into your. 403 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: My accent is weird though, my accents like sometimes I'm 404 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: really poorsh. Sometimes I try and speak like I'm not poorsh. 405 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I actually kind of see where she's 406 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: coming from because I grew up in South Ireland, in Tipperary, 407 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: where the accent is really really strong, and since I 408 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: started working in media at eighteen, I did forest female 409 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: and my accent out. 410 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it is mad because I feel like 411 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a crazy pressure to feel that you have to 412 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: do that. 413 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I guess it was because I obviously 414 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: was working in America and people just couldn't really understand 415 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: me over there, so I did have to like forcedly 416 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: slow down. 417 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: But was that a thing you had to like teach yourself? 418 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like and even like up to five six 419 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: years ago, like I remember being in, you know, working 420 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: in London and having to go to a voice coach 421 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: because my feedback was just my accent was too strong. 422 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, how can you undo an accent? 423 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: I think it was more like slowing down. I'm just 424 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: making sure everything was pronounced correctly, because one thing about 425 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: where I'm from is like we speak really fast, and 426 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: we kind of go up at the end of sentences, 427 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: and I suppose our tone is just very different to 428 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: kind of the universal tone. 429 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: I love it. I love your accent. 430 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: There's probably of people listening who were like, what the fuck. 431 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: I don't even understand her and she's gone to voice lessons. 432 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: What was she like before? 433 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: No, Honestly, sometimes I listened back to stuff before and 434 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, I needed to have like subtitles walking around 435 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: with me. 436 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like it was a good day. 437 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: I had a good date with Becky. I don't think 438 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: i'd see her again. I feel like she's got her 439 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: hands full and was moving to New York. But I 440 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed the day like we had. It was a good 441 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: chair and she was quite intense, is what I was saying. 442 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: And in the series, you've just dated two women. Yeah, yeah, 443 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: would you possibly look at being with a girl full time. 444 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 445 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: I think it really depends on the person. Yeah, I 446 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't say never. 447 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: So like, I've obviously known you for so long, We've 448 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: gone on nights out together and stuff, and you're always 449 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: on the prole for like a guy. So for me, 450 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I had no idea that you you 451 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: also were interested in women as well. 452 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm definitely like much more interested in men. 453 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: That's why I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would probably not 454 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: like say that I'm bisexual because I feel like I'm not. 455 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: But like, I think there's this phrase on like field 456 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: which is hetero flexible or something, which it gives me 457 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: the aic saying that, but I'm just like open to it. 458 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? You're over here, Yeah, 459 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm kind of like figuring out. I 460 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: think it's the only thing I can say. Next time. 461 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: On twenty eight dates later. 462 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: Okay, I've never heard a situation that's so clearly is 463 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: a good point. 464 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: A gun to my head? 465 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: Him? 466 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Please? He was having the time of his life, where 467 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: for me, I'm a savoy? Can it? Twenty eight Dates 468 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: Later is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio. For more from Novel, 469 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: visit novel dot Audio. 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