1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for yelling at my brother 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: for cheating when he was finally embracing his sexuality? Okayop, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: this is Okayop. I'm Samuel daughter and I'm John Fry and. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: We tell the phone of your stories there and none. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Of oh yeah, oh yeah, and John, I have something 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: that is just like this compounding of cheating, of family drama, 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: of Christianity, of the Lord. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: You got the trifecta, the holy trinity of okayop. 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: Stories, perfect reddick cake just stacked up. Let's get into it, 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: do it? 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for yelling at my brother 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: for cheating when he was finally embracing his sexuality. 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Let's see where this goes. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: My brother male thirty and me thirty eight male grew 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: up in a very religious household. My father was all 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: about good Christian family values, and yet ironically he cheated 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: on my mom all the time, and he expected us 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to accept it. I hate it his guts, but my 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: brother always tried to please him to have his approval. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: When he was a teen, we shared a desktop computer 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: and he sometimes forgot to delete his browser history. 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: This is the brother classic. 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I noticed he went to many gay support sites so 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I thought he might be into guys. I never asked 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: because A it was his choice to tell me when 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: he was ready, and B didn't really care, which I 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: guess is I think that's like a good good guess. 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Probably that was probably a good, healthy response. Yeah, he 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: was my brother and I love him. I understood why 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: he would want to keep it quiet, though. If he 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: came out when we were living with our father, I 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: knew crop. 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: Would hit the fan. Yeah. 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Years passed and he didn't come out, even after losing 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: contact with our dad. I thought that maybe he was 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: exploring a sexuality back then, or maybe it was by 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, because he got a girlfriend and then married 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: her five years ago. Oh okay, yeah, so like you know, 40 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: seems Yeah, this girl, let's call her Julie, is an angel. 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: She got along with everyone, and she became fast friends 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: with my wife. Oh yeah, who sees her as like 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: a sister of sorts. I owe her a lot because 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: she was instrumental in making my wife, except that she 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: needed help after going through some terrible postpartum depression. 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: That's great. She's basically helping her with the mental health. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: All the families feel united. 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Yes, fast forward to this week Julie calls us sobbing 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: and tells us that my brother has been cheating on 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: her and that his lover is a male friend of 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: his from work. H Oh no, oh's brother. This has 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: been going on since three years ago or so. I 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: went ballistic and I called him. I told him he 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: was doing the same thing to Julie as her father 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: did to our mom. 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: Oh. 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: My brother then tells me that he was struggling with 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: accepting that he was gay all this time and that 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I should be more understanding. He then goes on to 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: accuse me that I'm just mad because he's gay, and 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: then I'm discriminating against him. 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Ooh, do not play that card at this time. 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, cheating is cheating, and that's what Ope says. 64 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: I told him. Cheating is cheating, and Julie doesn't deserve this. 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: And like Julie is the sweetheart, angel of a woman. 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the innocent you know she. 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure if he was upfront with her that she 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: would not have Yeah, like trying. 69 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: To have a relationship with it, bro kind of man. 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: That's tough, dude, that's so tough. Yeah, we haven't talked 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: in days, and I'm starting to feel guilty. Maybe I 72 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: should have been more tactful. 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 74 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: I just feel that cheating doesn't have a free pass 75 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: at all. People have read it TikTok podcast and YouTube. 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Is op the a hole? 77 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: The one thing I will say and have some empathy 78 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: for is Opie's brother, like probably struggling with it, considering 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: like you know, grew up Christian, probably like there. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Is, dude, that's a tough thing to come to. 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: Some self hate probably in there. 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: You know, also like you probably are marrying someone to 83 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: cover up that party. 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: You're living a lie. I mean, no one wants to 85 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: live like everyone's to be their their true, authentic self. 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: So I could see the pain that that would cause 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: Ope's brother. But to turn around and basically say, like 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: basically use like the gay card to say, like, you're 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: discriminating against me when you were cheating on someone. 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially someone who is is integrated into the family, Yeah, 91 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: that you care about too, Like yeah, true, it's it's hard, 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: but I do understand. Like like I do, I think 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Op could have been a little bit more tactful with 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: how he approached it, because I especially like all this 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: is coming out, he's not really he's not out like 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: his brother's not out right. Yeah, and so this is 97 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: essentially outing him and having his relationship fall apart at 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: the same time, and like he's having to embrace like 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: his sexuality too. 100 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 2: It's like this is a very. 101 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Confusing and whirlwind of emotion. 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: It's a good point. 103 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: So I think op could have been a bit more tactful. 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think cheating is ever right. Yeah, you know, 105 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's really excusable. 106 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: But especially I just I honestly, the cheating is is 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: really bad and I hate the like like I feel 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 3: like he's like trying to play the gay car, trying 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: to get out of it. 110 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that I also really hate. Yeah, so what you're 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna do? But what do you what do you think y'all? Like, 112 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: I you know, it is a tough situation, is a 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: tough one. I think it's more up in the air 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: than more of our like than our recent stories. But 115 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: like I'd love to hear some people from the LGBTQUH community, 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: like what what do you think too? 117 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: Wait? 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 3: Are you telling me that two quite straight assists males 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: did not have the definitive opinion? 120 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: What it's a comedy podcast. 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: We've had the definitive opinion for four hundred years. 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: For more hundred years. Are changing it now? Undred years 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: can't be wrong. 124 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: But on the real let's let's get some of the 125 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: LGBT plus community in on this just and we want 126 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts. 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Let us know, give us your thoughts. Also, maybe like, 128 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: give us our thoughts in the subreddit. 129 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: Oh yes, drop it in the subreddit, guys. We want 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: to get some discussions going there. 131 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Some people are joining it, but we haven't really been active. 132 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: That is true, So let's let's have the comment over there. 133 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Guys respond you haven't already subscribe, follow us wherever you 134 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: get your podcasts or youth hoobes or dick Dogs, and 135 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: we'll see you