Speaker 1: My name is Clay Neukman. This is a production of
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Speaker 1: we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease render Man. The
Speaker 1: Deer Stories episodes are some of my favorite of the
Speaker 1: whole year because I get to go and talk to
Speaker 1: all these people and cherry pick their stories. That's what
Speaker 1: you do. But usually what I don't say to the
Speaker 1: guys that are talking that I'm talking to, like Mo,
Speaker 1: is that you got to go through a bunch of
Speaker 1: duds to cherry pick the one that pick. Is that right, Mo?
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: I won't tell how many he's thrown in the trash
Speaker 3: that No.
Speaker 1: Actually, what's interesting is that to me when you tell
Speaker 1: somebody tell me your best deer story, that means something
Speaker 1: different to everybody. Somebody might tell you the most like
Speaker 1: sentimental story that they have. They might tell you about
Speaker 1: like the first deer their son ever killed, or they
Speaker 1: may tell you a story about how their uncle poached
Speaker 1: a deer when they were nine years old, you know,
Speaker 1: and something just like off the wall. You'd be surprised
Speaker 1: how many times that happens. And I go, man, that's
Speaker 1: a great story. You have another one that we could
Speaker 1: celebrate and you know, on the platform of American hunting
Speaker 1: culture fish violation.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, but the good is there a statute of
Speaker 4: limitations on stories, Like when you do something violates.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a bear grease code of honor. Like
Speaker 1: we've told illegal stories on this hunting podcast.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 1: I mean when we talked about lou Dell and Charlie Edwards,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of illegal hunting stories. Andy Brown
Speaker 1: talked about his dad running over a deer being run
Speaker 1: by dogs back in the sixties in County. He run
Speaker 1: it down with the truck he did. I mean, it was,
Speaker 1: but it we justified it based upon the intent and
Speaker 1: the the the intangibles that it brought to us understanding
Speaker 1: where we're at today. So when Andy Brown told about
Speaker 1: his dad shooting deer with the twenty two and all
Speaker 1: this stuff, it made sense because now we're like, man,
Speaker 1: how much further we come along that we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're most hunters are thinking about conservation and the law,
Speaker 1: you know, compared to back when it was kind of
Speaker 1: just a suggestion. So the answer is, yes, there's a
Speaker 1: great line.
Speaker 4: I think the thing I love about the deer stories
Speaker 4: is it is kind of you're looking for the intangible
Speaker 4: things about it, Like, you know, there's that when you
Speaker 4: sit around the campfire at deer camp. You know there's
Speaker 4: that one guy that you just can't wait for him
Speaker 4: to tell any story. Yeah, the story of going to
Speaker 4: the porta potty before he goes to the deer stand
Speaker 4: is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And we get to to have the the krem de
Speaker 4: la creme of all the deer stories. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a lot of good stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I better introduce my guests. I've got Bear John
Speaker 1: Newcomb here here, and then we've got Josh Filmmaker present
Speaker 1: Mo Shepherd Law. I don't even need to introduce you, Mo.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I may not even tell you
Speaker 1: something really nice that someone said about you. I'm mayried
Speaker 1: all the time, so don't imagine. Reminded me what Lake
Speaker 1: Pickle said about moment. Oh really, lake Pickle, Lake Pickle.
Speaker 1: But our guest of honor. You didn't know what Shane,
Speaker 1: You've been tricked. You're the guest of honor. This is
Speaker 1: my longtime buddy, Shane Almond. It's been It's funny. I
Speaker 1: hadn't seen Shane in many years, Like just like an
Speaker 1: hour ago. I was like, Man, you got old. You know.
Speaker 1: He was like he actually he said that to me,
Speaker 1: He said, you got old. But no, Man, me and
Speaker 1: Shane we go pretty far back. Yeah, we've been to
Speaker 1: Canada together, We've we've I feel like we've done a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff together over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done quite a bit of running around Turkey hunting,
Speaker 2: bear hunting, yep, worked some shows together when you was
Speaker 2: doing the Arkansas Bear and Buck Journal before you bought
Speaker 2: Bear Hunting magazine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, So listen, y'all you might not
Speaker 1: know this bear. Let me paint a picture for you
Speaker 1: about how the world used to be. Okay, got it.
Speaker 1: We used to live for this time of year for
Speaker 1: Walmart to get those see those DVDs up there. Yep,
Speaker 1: did we not shame?
Speaker 4: We did? That's fact.
Speaker 2: Moe went through a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, because you wouldn't even the world did not
Speaker 1: have much of an Internet presence, and so now we
Speaker 1: you know, people that are interested in hunting, are interested
Speaker 1: in kayaking, are interested in cars or painting their nails
Speaker 1: or whatever. People are interested. I think you can watch
Speaker 1: it every day of the year and there's all this
Speaker 1: content just to it wasn't that way. And in the fall,
Speaker 1: usually late August, maybe the first of September if they
Speaker 1: were late, they'd put on the shelves hunting DVDs from
Speaker 1: Primost to hs HS strut Night in Hale, not in Hall.
Speaker 1: Who were the jury's Who else was some of the
Speaker 1: good ones?
Speaker 2: Then you had Fitzgerald and no Feather. Yeah, that's going
Speaker 2: way back, burying Geene Winstle. They had probably the best,
Speaker 2: some of the best ones bow hunting, October, white Tails,
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there was there was a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, the first time I ever saw Shane, he
Speaker 1: was on one of those DVDs. What, yeah, Shane was
Speaker 1: Uh we had a celebrity here, Oh, big time, big time? No,
Speaker 1: I wonder see, see you didn't know I had somebody
Speaker 1: in my back pocket, did you? No, Shane, tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit like you you hunted with HSI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so back in that so early early two thousands,
Speaker 2: a good friend of mine, Philip vander Pool, which lived
Speaker 2: there at home, which he he'd always been obsessed with
Speaker 2: videography type work, steal pictures and stuff.
Speaker 4: And and hunted a lot.
Speaker 2: So he got into kind of freelance video and and
Speaker 2: he we hunted quite a bit together. We would we
Speaker 2: killed a few he videoed and me killing a few bears.
Speaker 2: It was featured on a couple of videos, and then
Speaker 2: we uh, he got a a role working for Hunter Specialties,
Speaker 2: just freelance selling, you know, getting content for them and
Speaker 2: selling to them. So I the first few years that
Speaker 2: was good that we'd done that. I was the one
Speaker 2: that was drawing tags, you know, somewhere in the Midwest,
Speaker 2: would either be like Kansas, Iowall, Illinois wherever, and uh
Speaker 2: that was kind of the deal, you know, he would Uh,
Speaker 2: I was just wanting to go hunting, and he was
Speaker 2: wanting the video.
Speaker 4: So it worked out good for both.
Speaker 2: I was getting the hunt, you know, and which now
Speaker 2: we wasn't going on any guided hunts, I mean ever,
Speaker 2: everything we was doing was on public or permission land
Speaker 2: at that time. And then uh, so be it there
Speaker 2: one one of the years, I uh I was fortunate
Speaker 2: enough to kill a really good deer that was actually
Speaker 2: the color covered.
Speaker 1: That's what I bet money. I've got that dvdp there somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was that was a piece of property.
Speaker 2: It was just like today. I mean, we pulled up
Speaker 2: and talked to a guy and he said, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can hunt, which everybody had asked.
Speaker 4: He let hunt. I don't know how we was able to.
Speaker 2: Beat our way in there and around everybody else and
Speaker 2: ended up killing a super nice deer. How big was
Speaker 2: the deer one hundred and seventy two begging? Yeah, pretty good,
Speaker 2: pretty good deer for a redneck from Arkansas.
Speaker 1: So and then you, uh see, you hunted and filmed
Speaker 1: with Hunter Specialties for quite a few years.
Speaker 4: And four or five something like that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's then. That's the way I would have
Speaker 1: known you. It was like, hey, there's a Arkansas guy
Speaker 1: over there that's filming for Hunter Specialties.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: And then you shot professional.
Speaker 2: Archery, Yes, done a lot of archery shooting through the years,
Speaker 2: shot a lot of ASA and IBO tournaments, shot on
Speaker 2: it was on Matthew shooting staff for several years. It
Speaker 2: was a good time, met a lot of great people
Speaker 2: doing that still haven't done that in the wildest life
Speaker 2: gotten away, you know, doing other things and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's so, man, Bear you should
Speaker 1: you should get Shane to watch his shoot two or
Speaker 1: three shots. Man, he's a pro. I taught Shane a
Speaker 1: lot of what he knows, not about bow hunting, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But I'm sure that he could
Speaker 1: transfer some of that knowledge back to you as a
Speaker 1: pro shooter.
Speaker 2: But matter of fact, I just remembered, so I went
Speaker 2: to leave us in like, oh two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: ish was in Vegas shooting and just so happened with
Speaker 2: Wayne Endicott was on the line with me.
Speaker 4: I think you was up at Wayne shop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, supo Oregon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, super good dude, Yeah he was. He was.
Speaker 2: I've shot a few terms to him and he was
Speaker 2: just always a pleasure to be around.
Speaker 4: Super good, which they all are.
Speaker 1: That's just ever beat any of the real well known guys,
Speaker 1: just like one time or one shot that you'd like
Speaker 1: to high like now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably a couple of times or some of them.
Speaker 4: I had your chance.
Speaker 1: Like, man, one time I beat Levi Morgan.
Speaker 2: Now one shot had never shot against Levi. But but
Speaker 2: you know, you do have some really good shooters right
Speaker 2: here in your backyard that travel and still shoot professionally today.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of them is a friend of mine, Nathan Brooks.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Me and Nathan go way, way, way back. We run
Speaker 2: the roads a lot, you know. And when we was
Speaker 2: in our early twenties, so you know, thirty years ago,
Speaker 2: we've done lots of traveling.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And uh, and now you own a company called
Speaker 1: Muzzloader Magnum Products, Magnum Musloader Magnum Products known as MMP.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and it's y'all make now. Shane taught me
Speaker 1: the correct way to say the word s A B
Speaker 1: O T.
Speaker 4: That's always been a mystery to me.
Speaker 1: How do you say it, Shane Sabot?
Speaker 4: No, yes, that's not ever been on the list of options.
Speaker 1: Actually, I was going to call it a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or depends on what part of the world, or now.
Speaker 1: You call it? Do you call it cou's deer, a
Speaker 1: cou's deer, a cow's deer, a cou's deer, Okay, and
Speaker 1: then you call a sabbath a sabot. The average average
Speaker 1: hill billy would call it a sabbath. Yeah, Yes, that's
Speaker 1: what Mo calls it.
Speaker 2: It's a sabbath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well this guy makes them and his his company
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. I mean y'all created the.
Speaker 2: Sabbath correct, so both So yeah, in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: So Dale Ramsey was the original founder. Deal was.
Speaker 1: It was a.
Speaker 2: Lifelong friend of mine. I've known him since I was
Speaker 2: a kid, and he uh he was an injection molder
Speaker 2: by trade, That's that's what he done. And he got
Speaker 2: interested in musloaders. Well back at that time, you know,
Speaker 2: there was really no good bullets. It's just a cash
Speaker 2: led bullet. Well, he got to want to do something different.
Speaker 1: I mean, guys were guys were just had they had
Speaker 1: these old like hawking style muzzloaders, I mean really primitive weapons,
Speaker 1: and they were jamming lead down those things where lead was.
Speaker 1: You had a bullet that was the size of your
Speaker 1: barrel that which seems like what you would have because
Speaker 1: that was all the technology for the last five hundred years.
Speaker 3: Had that or a patch ball, that's all there was. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're right, and that's all there was
Speaker 3: for Yeah.
Speaker 2: I first started in the late seventies.
Speaker 3: That's the way it was. Either had a pass ball
Speaker 3: or you had a you had this little lead baller
Speaker 3: that either greased it or or just stuck it in
Speaker 3: their dry and shoved it down.
Speaker 1: And the accuracy was very low.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So when when Dale started that, he got
Speaker 2: to he kept working with it and then got to shooting.
Speaker 2: You know, just a jacketed pistol bullet just still today
Speaker 2: they a lot of guys still used just a jacketed
Speaker 2: hollow point like a Horner of Day XTP or a
Speaker 2: Barns XPB. So anyway, that's that's the bullet he started
Speaker 2: messing with and got him to and then the had
Speaker 2: a product that was working. So he when he decides
Speaker 2: to go to the shot show and first of the year,
Speaker 2: he goes to Houston, Texas and just so happened, sets
Speaker 2: up a little booth and Tony Knight was there, which
Speaker 2: Tony nine is who not musloads.
Speaker 4: Well, that was the year that he introduced the.
Speaker 2: M K eighty five, which is an in line musload,
Speaker 2: first in line mostloads.
Speaker 1: Well change the game.
Speaker 4: Ye changed the game.
Speaker 2: So when Sodale and and Tony was at the forefront
Speaker 2: of modern most loading, that's and that's kind of how
Speaker 2: that got started.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: I mean so he but he created.
Speaker 4: The Yes, he created.
Speaker 1: Yes savage. Now I remember, I remember this from years ago.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this and uh uh, there
Speaker 1: was some French French folks. Well, the reason it's a sabo,
Speaker 1: that's that's a French word for what does that word mean?
Speaker 4: Don't get me the line.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it was because they used it with cannons. Yes,
Speaker 1: so they would have like you know, military cannons, but
Speaker 1: wanted to shoot a smaller caliber ball out of a
Speaker 1: bigger caliber hole. And so they somehow packed this this
Speaker 1: bullet in a am I right, Yeah, And so that
Speaker 1: was kind of the idea. Yeah, and then Dale was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fabricate injection mold this little plastic packaging for
Speaker 1: a forty five caliber bullet to shoot out of a
Speaker 1: fifty caliber muscle correct and what what what? What's the
Speaker 1: physics behind why that changed the accuracy of mussliders so much.
Speaker 2: I think the big thing was the quality of bullet.
Speaker 2: They get a little better bullet, getting them loaded better.
Speaker 2: And then at the time, whenever Tony invented the gun,
Speaker 2: it was so much ahead of everything else on the market.
Speaker 2: When you just have an old traditional Thompson Center renegade
Speaker 2: or hockey, and it was just pretty much not much rifling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like a turn in forty eight.
Speaker 3: You know, then you have inline that has a wirlhood
Speaker 3: and it early straightens everything.
Speaker 2: That straightens everything out. Now this it just it just worked.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just it just is a good combination
Speaker 2: for you know, the everyday guy that wants to go
Speaker 2: hunting and don't it's not not wanting to reload, try
Speaker 2: to size bullets and things of that nature. They there's
Speaker 2: a good combination for just a general hunter for sure.
Speaker 1: And so he had the patent on that still does.
Speaker 2: He had to design patent when he first started and
Speaker 2: then it went away.
Speaker 1: Okay, so but for decades if you had a I
Speaker 1: can't say it any way, a sabotage bullet, Yeah, uh
Speaker 1: that you thought at Walmart you were using one of
Speaker 1: Dale's m MPs, which is now Shane's company. You're using
Speaker 1: one of their say boat, yes, I mean, and and
Speaker 1: you're still making them today, still make them today and
Speaker 1: still the leader in making sea boats.
Speaker 2: We try to be, you know, we we do have
Speaker 2: a competitor. I mean, they make a good product as well.
Speaker 4: I mean there's I.
Speaker 2: Know they don't Yeah, well I hate to down anybody,
Speaker 2: but you know, I think there's.
Speaker 1: A boat for both of us.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going for anybody's stuff. No, they
Speaker 2: probably they might down mind, but that's okay.
Speaker 4: So that's kind.
Speaker 1: I just it's an interesting story. So I do Dale.
Speaker 1: Dale has since passed away. I met Dale just a
Speaker 1: time or two, threw you hunted on his place, and
Speaker 1: he was just an eccentric, real neat old guy just
Speaker 1: like super I mean super intelligent, probably way to buck
Speaker 1: forty sop and wet.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe yeah, yeah, he has Eddie's heaviest in his life.
Speaker 4: He was probably one forty yeah.
Speaker 1: And he was he loved to hunt, I mean, was
Speaker 1: a serious hunter, whitetail hunter. Grew up over here in Harrison, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: And uh, kind of a genius. That's the way I
Speaker 1: remember him, just with with his ability like with guns
Speaker 1: and I mean just a genius. And uh, I remember
Speaker 1: he said one thing to me that I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. It was it was at a
Speaker 1: time when in the outdoor space. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I was talking about this, but I just said, we've
Speaker 1: kind of done everything that we can do. I remember
Speaker 1: saying it was a conversation and I was like, there's
Speaker 1: no basically, I said, there's no room to like have
Speaker 1: something new in the outdoor space because like everything's been done.
Speaker 1: I mean we've got grunt calls and mechanical broadheads and
Speaker 1: air guns and rifles and pistols and I mean just
Speaker 1: camouflage and leafy camouflage and waterproof boot like. And I
Speaker 1: remember he said, he said, you're wrong. There there will
Speaker 1: always be innovation, yeah, always, no matter what, no matter
Speaker 1: which direction that you go and anything. And what it
Speaker 1: did for me was, uh, I believed him when he
Speaker 1: said it. He was just like, nah, there'll always be innovation,
Speaker 1: and uh it uh. I mean it's like the world
Speaker 1: is just so big, like there's just always a way
Speaker 1: to be better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that that's that's one thing that got me interested.
Speaker 4: And when Dale passed.
Speaker 2: Away, me and him had been talking about things, and
Speaker 2: you know, quite you know and question him and well,
Speaker 2: why don't we why don't you Why didn't you do
Speaker 2: this or why didn't you try this? Why not interested anymore?
Speaker 2: So he had kind of lost inert, wasn't interested in
Speaker 2: doing anything. But I kept talking to him and talking
Speaker 2: to him, and you know, he's told me a few things,
Speaker 2: Well I think this might work, or I think this
Speaker 2: may work, and uh, I kept that in the back
Speaker 2: of my mind. And then whenever after he passed away,
Speaker 2: and then they decided that the company is gonna go
Speaker 2: up for sale.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to just let it go away.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't accomplish with him, He don't try,
Speaker 2: you know, so what's the worst can happen? I go broke,
Speaker 2: so well they're gonna do take my name at that point,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So so anyway we bold entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: So anyway we we uh come to terms and and
Speaker 2: got it taken over.
Speaker 4: And then I have actually been.
Speaker 2: Working on some of the things that we've talked about,
Speaker 2: trying to make a little better product different, not as
Speaker 2: not as much a design difference that you can see,
Speaker 2: but just improvements in everything that's available today. You know,
Speaker 2: there's better materials, better machines, better mold. I mean, there's this,
Speaker 2: there's things that you can be done better that will work.
Speaker 2: I think in more high performance guns better today than
Speaker 2: they maybe currently are.
Speaker 3: Increase the performance of the bullets and yeah, and now
Speaker 3: of the said boat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, good try.
Speaker 1: I tried to say it, What does m MP sell that,
Speaker 1: like I would buy as a Muslim hunter.
Speaker 2: Well, we we sell bulk sabos or sabots who whoever
Speaker 2: to suppose, Yeah, so bulk packaging of those. And then
Speaker 2: we do offer some bullet and sable combinations for the
Speaker 2: guy that just wants to buy a twelve pack of
Speaker 2: bullets and don't want to go you know, we've got those.
Speaker 4: And we we do.
Speaker 2: Handle a few a line of athlon scopes optics.
Speaker 4: You know what's they make some.
Speaker 2: Pretty pretty affordable, pretty good scopes for the price point.
Speaker 2: They're really good and so and so we handle those.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where we're at currently, looking about expanding
Speaker 2: into other things. You know, have more of your one
Speaker 2: stop shop for muzsloud or stuff through the website. But uh,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of work in progress, you know, getting
Speaker 2: getting to that point. But yeah, so you don't sell
Speaker 2: like pellets or powders or any of that stuff. Now,
Speaker 2: no powders or pellets. It just seems like that is
Speaker 2: much that there's so much taxes has matt fees getting
Speaker 2: them shipped in and then having to turn around and
Speaker 2: reship them to somebody else. It's it's almost. It's proper hard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: pricing is hard. It's hard to get to, you know,
Speaker 2: make anybody a deal, you know, you know, especially when
Speaker 2: bash Pro and Cabellas those kind of places have that
Speaker 2: such bulk that they b with.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of Hazmat bart, have I ever told you
Speaker 1: about the time my my Pyrodex powder story a couple
Speaker 1: of times, A couple of times.
Speaker 2: You remember our decks four?
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I got I got an audience here, well
Speaker 1: yeah for that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on that same heel where this one come from.
Speaker 4: I remember it. Well.
Speaker 1: Have you do you remember this? I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it when I got an audience, Okay, No.
Speaker 2: I may remember it when it comes out.
Speaker 1: One morning, it was late in the year, I was
Speaker 1: trying to kill a beart in National Forest on purpose. Uh,
Speaker 1: was carrying a muzzloader. It was it was late. It
Speaker 1: was it was right around Thanksgiving, and I remember it
Speaker 1: was a frigid cold morning, super cold, and I planned
Speaker 1: to walk the whole day, so I wasn't wearing a
Speaker 1: lot of clothes and uh, you know, I didn't bring
Speaker 1: a big jacket or anything. I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be moving all day, and I didn't plan
Speaker 1: to get I left the truck before daylight, didn't plan
Speaker 1: to come back until dark, and I was gonna move
Speaker 1: most of the day. Well, when I got in there,
Speaker 1: it was just so dang cold. I got on the
Speaker 1: north side of this mountain, I was just freezing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like a mile and a half from my truck
Speaker 1: and it's like eight o'clock in the morning and I'm
Speaker 1: just freezing, and no sun on that no sun on
Speaker 1: the north side. And I go, man, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: a fire. I'm just dying. And I'm on this just
Speaker 1: a slope as steep as a cow's face. And I
Speaker 1: take a flat rock and turn it up like this
Speaker 1: and put another rock underneath it and make me a
Speaker 1: little table. And I'm sitting on this hill. And so
Speaker 1: the hill's going up and the table's right here, and uh,
Speaker 1: all leaves are wet on the or side, just sopping wet. Right,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to start a fire with. And I go, well,
Speaker 1: I've got some Powerdex powder, and so I take out
Speaker 1: one hundred grains the Paradex powder and I mash it
Speaker 1: up like mortar and pestel on that rock and get
Speaker 1: a pile of powdered pyrodex powder about that big and
Speaker 1: about that tall, two pellets, two fifty grain pellets, and
Speaker 1: I've got a little stack of half dry twigs like
Speaker 1: right here that I'm gonna light that powder and it's
Speaker 1: gonna go and then I'm gonna put those on it
Speaker 1: and whi and it's and everything's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I was wearing a pair of glasses, I remember, and
Speaker 1: I had a lighter and all I remember is when
Speaker 1: I flick that lighter, mow, my entire vision was filled
Speaker 1: with fire.
Speaker 4: That is not a joke.
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw nothing but orange fire.
Speaker 2: What did you think he's gonna do?
Speaker 1: The way that fire comes out into those barrels, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, No, you hadn't told me. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was just gonna just burn, like just a
Speaker 1: little just like just have a little flame about that tall.
Speaker 1: That'd probably lasts about a minute, minute and a half.
Speaker 1: And man, it just I'm telling you, it was everywhere
Speaker 1: I I okay, now, I don't want to over exaggerate this.
Speaker 1: I don't think it blew me back, but I jumped
Speaker 1: back and when I was on that hill, I like
Speaker 1: landed like eight feet away, and my glasses flew off,
Speaker 1: and my glasses had embedded like sparks in the glass.
Speaker 1: It was plastic lenses that they were like fire marks.
Speaker 4: Glad you had the glasses.
Speaker 1: Singe sinched my eyebrows. I was worked up so much
Speaker 1: after that. It warmed me up. But it singed my eyebrows,
Speaker 1: and you like burnt hair smell, you know, But it
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't, I mean it did it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like any permanent damage. So anyway, pirate ex power powder.
Speaker 1: That's my Pyrodex story. And I proceeded to hunt the
Speaker 1: whole day and didn't see a single living animal shooks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's bear hunting in the late season two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Barr. Tell So the other day Bear told me a story,
Speaker 1: and I don't even think he thought it was funny,
Speaker 1: and I just started like cackling, laughing. Tell me about
Speaker 1: when you were mowing the other day. This has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with deer hunt. We're going to get back
Speaker 1: to deer hunting. Basically, I was mowing this yard and
Speaker 1: kind of like this little subdivision, old subdivision, and some
Speaker 1: guy comes walking down the road right next to me
Speaker 1: while I'm like getting a weed eater, and I can
Speaker 1: tell he looks pretty rough. But he walks up to me,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm just like, how are you? And
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm doing pretty good. And he asked me,
Speaker 1: are you a fisherman? And I was like, as matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I am. And he was like, well, I've
Speaker 1: got a deal for you, and he like just starts
Speaker 1: starting so many and then this guy like stops him
Speaker 1: and he's like hey, hey, and uh. Anyway, he starts
Speaker 1: telling me about this bay liner boat that he's got
Speaker 1: like just down the road. He says it's a full
Speaker 1: Bayliner sixteen foot or something with an eighty horse Mercury
Speaker 1: on it, and he'd sell it to me for three
Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, shoot, my john.
Speaker 1: Boat needs a motor, you know if it runs an
Speaker 1: eighty horse mercury for three hundred bucks, like, come on?
Speaker 4: The story is that.
Speaker 1: Barrett then goes with the guy to check out this
Speaker 1: three check it. Yeah. We start walking and I start
Speaker 1: kind of asking him some questions about it, and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's telling me like, if you just take
Speaker 1: this thing to the car wash, you get some gas
Speaker 1: in a battery. You'll have it on the lake by tonight.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, man, this must be a
Speaker 1: pretty good condition.
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 1: We get pretty close to his house and he's like,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, I've also got this two
Speaker 1: thousand and three Mustang convertible. It does it's not in
Speaker 1: running condition, but if you've got the time, you know
Speaker 1: you can get it fixed up. I'll give it to
Speaker 1: you for one hundred and fifty bucks. I was just like,
Speaker 1: what on earth? The items just start stacking up.
Speaker 4: So like, unbelieva unbelievable deals. Where's the boat on the lane?
Speaker 1: But I could tell the guy was pretty rough, and
Speaker 1: I pretty much knew there's a catch or say, isn't
Speaker 1: what it seemed? So I kind of went in there
Speaker 1: knowing I wasn't gonna buy anything, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: just check it out. I mean, sure, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars down the road. Well, anyway, we get
Speaker 1: to the boat like most cousins could be, and it
Speaker 1: was just the junkiest boat I've ever seen in my life,
Speaker 1: had like trees growing out of it, and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, all the flat tires, and he told me.
Speaker 1: He was like, just bring a battery and gasoline.
Speaker 4: He started changed off the trees out.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, there is no way that
Speaker 1: thing would start, and he's then he said, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. I'll give you the Mustang and the boat
Speaker 1: for five hundred, which is fifty dollars more when you
Speaker 1: do that one in a stand up comedy skit, that's
Speaker 1: your hook, all right, that's your hook, you say. And
Speaker 1: then he offered me a package deal, both of them
Speaker 1: for five hours. I laughed when he told.
Speaker 2: Me that story.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I told him, you know, that's that's a little
Speaker 1: rougher than what I'm willing to work on. And he
Speaker 1: told me, you know, he was like, put one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars down right now. I'll save it till the end
Speaker 1: of the Tattle program. Needed some can needed it bad
Speaker 1: and some cash. Anyway, I hated to leave him hanging
Speaker 1: his stuff. Yeah, No, it turns out it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: turns out it was his brother, his brother, and he
Speaker 1: starts he's talking to me like it was his and
Speaker 1: then his brother pulls up and he says, this boat
Speaker 1: is my brother's and we're trying to sell it. We're
Speaker 1: trying to sell you know, all this stuff, and so
Speaker 1: like he kind of like switched the story when his
Speaker 1: brother pulled up, but it was his brothers and his
Speaker 1: brother was going to sell it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: But anyway, now, son, this is why I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring this up publicly amongst the community here, is that
Speaker 1: if you'd have had a regular haircut, that man would
Speaker 1: have never profiled you as a drug user with the
Speaker 1: mullet cut. Am I right? That's true?
Speaker 4: No, it is shorter how much you cut off your hair?
Speaker 1: Bear good, three inches maintenance cut. It'll be back in
Speaker 1: like six months. Okay, that was a great story. That
Speaker 1: was a great story.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna ask Bear what he brought the
Speaker 4: show and tell today.
Speaker 1: Well let him. Let him tell the deer story. We're
Speaker 1: back on the deer okay, Uh, tell us about Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I was gonna get to this when
Speaker 1: where we talked about the deer stories, but might as
Speaker 1: well start because there was a story about a gar
Speaker 1: hole gar hole in somebody. Oh and uh, anyway, basically,
Speaker 1: we had this deer camp last year and uh River,
Speaker 1: my sister's coworker, she invited him to come and hunt
Speaker 1: with us, and it was like one of his first
Speaker 1: times to ever hunt. And uh, he had like, you know,
Speaker 1: good knowledge of how to shoot a gun and everything
Speaker 1: and basic safety. So uh, and he'd hunted before. So
Speaker 1: I put him out, you know, in this like pretty
Speaker 1: good spot that I figured he may be able to
Speaker 1: see deer. It was opening day of rifle and uh. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I dropped him off there and then I take me
Speaker 1: and then another buddy. We go and we hunt and
Speaker 1: we kill a nice buck. We come back and pick
Speaker 1: him up and he shot a spike and we were pumped.
Speaker 1: You know. It was his first dear, one of his
Speaker 1: first times, and we were just glad that he was
Speaker 1: able to get one. So anyway, we have like fifteen
Speaker 1: people at this camp, and you know, we have some
Speaker 1: like prime spots and so it's kind of like all
Speaker 1: the people that killed deer in the morning, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of getting the guar hole pretty much.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like telling people where to go.
Speaker 1: So none of these people, a few of them had
Speaker 1: ever even been to this place. Yeah, so Bear's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go here, You're gonna go here, You're gonna
Speaker 1: go here, you know, he's act like he's yeah, telling
Speaker 1: people what to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So my buddy Dan, he kills his first deer,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I don't need to be
Speaker 1: in a good spot. I'm just glad I got one.
Speaker 1: I just want to go hunt. And so I didn't
Speaker 1: even have a spot for him. I just told him,
Speaker 1: you know, there's this, you know, I described an area
Speaker 1: to him and told him, you know, there may be
Speaker 1: some deer in there if you just go look for sign.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, he'd like almost never hunted,
Speaker 1: so he didn't you know, I couldn't tell if he
Speaker 1: would really know how to read sign or not. But
Speaker 1: I go hunt. We come back and he has a
Speaker 1: big wide eight point on the bed of his truck.
Speaker 1: So he tagged out on bucks in one day and
Speaker 1: it was his first time to ever public land and
Speaker 1: his second one was a nice eight point, real wide anyway,
Speaker 1: so he kind of like develops this clarified just because
Speaker 1: the audience may not exactly we all maybe on different
Speaker 1: levels of what big really big one. I'd say it
Speaker 1: was ninety inches, but it was it was respective Yah yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: not the grade in the deer. I just don't want people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't like a one hundred and thirty inch point yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like two and a half year old, but
Speaker 1: real yeah, yeah, you know, like probably sixteen inches wide
Speaker 1: and a little four inch times I mean a buck anybody,
Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was the biggest buck we killed
Speaker 1: all the camp. And so he, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: he killed two bucks one day. He doesn't hunt with
Speaker 1: us for the rest of the season. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we he wanted to archery hunt this year with a bow,
Speaker 1: and so he got a bow like two weeks before season,
Speaker 1: and you know, I took him out shooting, showed him,
Speaker 1: you know, how to site everything in and he gets
Speaker 1: to shooting pretty good, and he says, you know, if
Speaker 1: you all go hunting one weekend, I want to just come.
Speaker 1: He said, I still have deer meat from last year,
Speaker 1: so I don't really need to kill anything, but I'd
Speaker 1: just like to go anyway. So he comes, and I've
Speaker 1: got four other guys with me that and you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of like dish out the spots, and he
Speaker 1: was just like, don't give me a good spot. I
Speaker 1: just because you know, he'd killed two deer and it
Speaker 1: had only been out in once, so he was pretty
Speaker 1: pretty happy with his success rate. And anyway, we h
Speaker 1: we put him. It was the same thing. I just
Speaker 1: had an area that I figured there may be some
Speaker 1: deer in and uh, anyway, he drove down there and
Speaker 1: he calls me right at dark and is like, and
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't have a tree stand, he didn't
Speaker 1: have hunting off Camo. It was his first time ever
Speaker 1: with a bow, and he calls me at dark and
Speaker 1: it's like, I just shot one. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: you got to be It was a dough okay, but
Speaker 1: still off the ground. Yeah, he hunted. That's tough, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Moment that's tough off the ground at like ten yards too.
Speaker 1: I basically just told him like if one comes in,
Speaker 1: like draw away before it's close, and it's exactly what
Speaker 1: he did. And I mean, he just shot a deer.
Speaker 4: So you're basically the world's greatest guy.
Speaker 1: I was with him at all.
Speaker 4: I just but you told him where to go, you
Speaker 4: told him what to do, you taught him how to shoot.
Speaker 2: I mean, he seemed a place that he thought he
Speaker 2: might see something.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well that's a that's a great story to
Speaker 1: get us talking about the deer stories, Mo, what was
Speaker 1: your what was your favorite story?
Speaker 3: Well, there was two stories that was really good. A
Speaker 3: guy on there told both of them, and I think
Speaker 3: his name was Mos. I saw that one coming. Do
Speaker 3: you like kind of put you right there at the end. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he say the best for last. That's that's what you
Speaker 3: need to do. That's what clean up.
Speaker 1: That's what I did. I got. I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: what Lake Pickle said. I decided to'd be knowing to
Speaker 1: tell me he said, he said, we need more Moe
Speaker 1: Shepherd done there, That's what he said. He said, he
Speaker 1: loves the way you tell a story. So now Lake
Speaker 1: now lakes story pathetic, just a joke. Lake's a great
Speaker 1: friend of mine. He told a great story. There's the
Speaker 1: only reason I make fun of Lake give him a
Speaker 1: hard time is because he's such a nice guy. I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody else does. So I choose on my
Speaker 1: public platform to ridicule Lake Pickle with on X Lake
Speaker 1: all right, MO, go ahead.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the you you you've done a good job
Speaker 3: of cherry picking those stories.
Speaker 2: On all of them. I mean, they were all really
Speaker 2: good stories.
Speaker 3: The short stories were good, yeah, yeah, the longer stories
Speaker 3: were good.
Speaker 2: Uh, But I think my favorite one.
Speaker 3: Was the first one that that your friend Mitch, Mitch, yeah,
Speaker 3: told about the deer that you know, he set up
Speaker 3: on and and right there close to him.
Speaker 2: He thought he had a good shot. He apparently missed it.
Speaker 2: And then and then this.
Speaker 3: Other deer comes in and and I've had that happened
Speaker 3: to me before, you know, Uh, as far as a deer,
Speaker 3: you see a deer, then all of a sudden it
Speaker 3: just vanishes, and you're watching that area and you don't
Speaker 3: never see the deer again.
Speaker 2: You don't know where it went.
Speaker 3: And all it would take is take your eyes off
Speaker 3: that spot for five seconds, and the deer can turn
Speaker 3: and walk away and you never know it left that spot.
Speaker 3: Or they may stay there a long time in that
Speaker 3: same spot, especially old mature bucks that that are wood wise.
Speaker 3: So but I really liked that story about that because
Speaker 3: of this the way it all progressed through. And he
Speaker 3: talked about, you know, his patience, and and then he thought,
Speaker 3: there's no way, no way that that that little button buck,
Speaker 3: you know, could could bend that deer. And well maybe
Speaker 3: it was because ever saw nothing else move after that,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, here comes that deer
Speaker 3: that he had he had first seen movement of, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty or thirty minutes, however long you'd been you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty much.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, that happens all the time
Speaker 1: of guys get busted never even know it. No, they
Speaker 1: get a deer just comes in, A big one will
Speaker 1: come in, and man.
Speaker 3: It may pick up your scent, It may see a
Speaker 3: movement where you've turned your head or something other. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it could be several things.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think humans think about time differently
Speaker 1: than animals do. I mean, you've got to assume that
Speaker 1: they do. Like to us, sitting in one place for
Speaker 1: twenty minutes would be hard, and it would be hard
Speaker 1: because of a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 3: We're on schedules our nature, even as we hunt, we're
Speaker 3: on schedules. Yeah, deer's not on no schedule whatsoever.
Speaker 1: He wakes up and he has twenty four hours to survive, to.
Speaker 3: Survive and then start the next day for it.
Speaker 1: And so I mean that big buck sitting there for
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, I mean most people probably would have got
Speaker 1: busted or just or the buck would have just slipped away.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that button buck coming out saved him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think the deer would ever come down
Speaker 3: and where he was at that button Buck, because I
Speaker 3: think it had smelt where he'd done all the stomping around, yep,
Speaker 3: and it was trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: This's my thoughts on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Buck was stand up there thinking is that
Speaker 3: guy still around here? Did he just pass through? What
Speaker 3: do I need to do to breathe the next day?
Speaker 3: And I really think deer think like that.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but they got to think
Speaker 3: someway other to survive like they do out and where
Speaker 3: they're hunting, pressure on them.
Speaker 1: So m hmm, Joshuach was your favorite story?
Speaker 4: Man? I really like Keith Polk's story. Keith story, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it had. It was one highlight after another, man.
Speaker 4: And I think for me, having been in an old
Speaker 4: crappy tree stand for years, that you know, you get
Speaker 4: up there halfway and you're like, crap, I can't this
Speaker 4: thing is about to throw me out because it's tilted.
Speaker 4: And every one of us, I guarantee of adjusted those
Speaker 4: tree stands up while we're up in the tree because
Speaker 4: we didn't didn't want to climb down, and the way
Speaker 4: he talked about putting that wing nut on there and
Speaker 4: thumping it.
Speaker 1: He did a great job describing.
Speaker 4: But then from that to to go and to get
Speaker 4: his brother and then you know, rally racing back to
Speaker 4: get the deer, and then the way he described that
Speaker 4: vine going over the top of the truck.
Speaker 1: That's a great way he described. You know, when somebody's
Speaker 1: describing something, you know, some people could have just been like,
Speaker 1: well a vine tore down of the truck, right, But
Speaker 1: he described how it went over the hood, over the
Speaker 1: over the glass, over the cab, and you kind of
Speaker 1: envision it, you know, you can see it.
Speaker 4: But I could just I could see that, you know,
Speaker 4: I could see when when they tell when they when
Speaker 4: they tell said they took off with the tailgate down,
Speaker 4: I saw something's going.
Speaker 1: Is going to happen. Yeah, exactly is that The three
Speaker 1: wheeler made an appearance in that story. Yeah, what what
Speaker 1: did he What did he do? He just had a
Speaker 1: three wheeling. I think Keith put that in there just
Speaker 1: for me. Any story is gonna be better if it's
Speaker 1: got a three wheeler.
Speaker 4: But I just I love the nostalgia of that story
Speaker 4: with with everybody at the Shell station. You know, I
Speaker 4: mean that that that takes me back. Just everybody sitting
Speaker 4: around with tailgates down, and you know that unfortunately, those
Speaker 4: days are are pretty much gone. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 4: to race to get their pictures on Instagram, Facebook as
Speaker 4: quick as they can.
Speaker 1: Station that I put a picture of that. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the new Shell station I put I saw the picture
Speaker 1: of Keith's buck. It was a nice buck, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was bigger than I thought I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna you know, the way he described it. I thought
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, he acts like it was
Speaker 1: real big in their mind at the time. But it was.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good bus and nice even no
Speaker 1: matter who.
Speaker 4: To them, it was a.
Speaker 3: Giant because they were young hunters and absolutely dandy deer.
Speaker 1: So, uh, Shane, have you ever fallen out of a
Speaker 1: tree stand, the climbing tree stand or anything? Now?
Speaker 4: But I fell out of a hanging.
Speaker 1: Really, how far did you fall?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: My harness caught me, but oh I was I was
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty up.
Speaker 4: When I fell out.
Speaker 1: How'd you fall?
Speaker 4: Fell asleep?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure enough?
Speaker 2: Just rolled out sitting there with my elbows on my knees,
Speaker 2: and it's one of them, you know, good cold days
Speaker 2: and wind hitting you right in the face, and when
Speaker 2: the sun started pulling, you know, beating down now on, you know,
Speaker 2: just just dozed off. And I mean I just fell out,
Speaker 2: just head first, you knowing harnesses.
Speaker 4: Harness caught me.
Speaker 1: I bet that's woke it did.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, knowing that that, it took a It took a
Speaker 2: little bit to figure, you know, really sink in what happened?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Did you have your teather at the rid? You where
Speaker 2: you didn't fall plumb out of stand?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: I felt plumb out of the stand. I mean I was,
Speaker 2: you know, my chin was about it my pipe platform.
Speaker 2: You know, I probably had that much slack.
Speaker 4: I bet that was a chore getting back up in there.
Speaker 2: I got waller around there and got a hold of
Speaker 2: one steps, you know, and then kind of I don't,
Speaker 2: to be honest, don't even know how I got back
Speaker 2: in the tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet, I bet it was all adrenaline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do know whenever I whenever I'd done that,
Speaker 2: and to kind of come to somehow my bow was,
Speaker 2: you know, here on the hangar, and when I went
Speaker 2: to grab it, I grabbed something where I don't what
Speaker 2: I thought I was grabbing at. But it uh, I
Speaker 2: had a hold of a string or cable enough that
Speaker 2: it derailed my bow, and so I went I had
Speaker 2: to go home, you know, repress it and put it
Speaker 2: back together. But yeah, it was a htr and it
Speaker 2: it derailed it and bent one of the montules.
Speaker 1: So I don't know when you went to grabbing for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I grabbed it pretty hard. I grabbed something
Speaker 4: pretty Yeah, I grabbed it pretty hard.
Speaker 1: Well. What made me ask that question was thinking about
Speaker 1: Keith in a tree adjusting a platform. Yep, one time, bear,
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was nineteen, one year older
Speaker 1: than you. I went and was hunting on a cold
Speaker 1: day when there was a bunch of ice on the
Speaker 1: north side of a pine tree. I went up like
Speaker 1: down low. There was no ice or snow, And when
Speaker 1: I got up to the top of this mountain to hunt,
Speaker 1: there was a skiff of snow on the ground and
Speaker 1: there was a quarter inch of pure ice completely on
Speaker 1: the north side of the trees. And I had a
Speaker 1: loggy value climbing tree which loggy values had a metal
Speaker 1: strap with a rubber rubber band.
Speaker 2: I just had a piece of rubber around that flat strap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's where I remembered it.
Speaker 1: It was metal, but it had a rubber around the
Speaker 1: flat strap. Well, I go to climbing this tree that's
Speaker 1: just covered in ice and I get up, I mean
Speaker 1: as high as I'm going to get team twenty feet
Speaker 1: and the rubber is grabbing onto the ice side, and
Speaker 1: it just it just wasn't a problem, Like you just
Speaker 1: just kind of went up it and it didn't can't
Speaker 1: really slide because the teeth were biting into the bark
Speaker 1: of this pine tree. But when I got up there,
Speaker 1: I got you had to kind of stand up to
Speaker 1: get turned around to sit in the seat. And when
Speaker 1: I did, I took my feet off of that platform
Speaker 1: and I didn't have a rope attached to it, and
Speaker 1: that platform just went down. It ratcheted like this all
Speaker 1: the way to the ground. Just hit the ground, I
Speaker 1: mean just just straight down. And no, that is actually
Speaker 1: not entirely true. I was standing on it and it
Speaker 1: went down and I caught like right here. I had
Speaker 1: taken my weight off of it and then went back on.
Speaker 2: It, and that's when it started.
Speaker 1: It went to the ground and I went down, but
Speaker 1: my arms caught on the on the top. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes sense. And so I'm hanging and it just ratchet and.
Speaker 4: You haven't gotten your harness hooked up yet.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I had a harness at that time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably pre harness. Yeah, you just tried to
Speaker 2: rope around your waist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, around a belt loop now. And so I'm setting
Speaker 1: up in this tree, big pine tree, like probably eighteen feet,
Speaker 1: let's just say, and I just I'm comfortable, I'm safe,
Speaker 1: but I'm just.
Speaker 4: Like, what am I gonna just went on hunting?
Speaker 1: Wow? I basically just wrapped my feet around that pine tree.
Speaker 1: It would just lean forward as fast as I could
Speaker 1: and bring it down about four inches and just I
Speaker 1: mean it took me thirty minutes, but I worked my
Speaker 1: way down. Do you remember whenever I was like just
Speaker 1: learning how to use a climbing stand and I was
Speaker 1: like thirteen or fourteen right over there, and it was
Speaker 1: real cold, and I tried to climb like a red
Speaker 1: oak tree that was kind of like slanted, and I
Speaker 1: got all over the top and the bottom slip all
Speaker 1: the same story. Hard barked red oaks, Yeah, hard barked.
Speaker 1: And it was cold and you I was like to
Speaker 1: come get you. Yeah, you came with the climbing sticks. Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot about that completely, forgot about that. And what
Speaker 1: do we do? Just put the climbing sticks up, yep,
Speaker 1: and I just climbed down. It was like right next
Speaker 1: to the house. I don't even remember.
Speaker 3: I know I'm the oldest one here. So I'll tell
Speaker 3: this little story. When I first started bow hunting, I
Speaker 3: was just a young teenager and we didn't even know
Speaker 3: what tree stands were. And back in the eighteen hundred, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'd read a lot about you know, archery hunting.
Speaker 3: You know, your best if you can get up in
Speaker 3: the elevated stand above the deer. So I first started
Speaker 3: bow hunting for four or five years. You know how
Speaker 3: I got it. You know what kind of tree stands
Speaker 3: I set in? I stood on limbs. Yeah, I actually
Speaker 3: stood on limb with my recurved bow. And the first
Speaker 3: deer I ever shot, I shot shot standing on a
Speaker 3: big white oak limb on white oaks.
Speaker 4: Oh that's cool, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: And you know I wasn't that high up.
Speaker 3: I was probably foot off the ground or something like that,
Speaker 3: but it just enough.
Speaker 2: It worked At the time.
Speaker 1: That's some that's some primitive hunting right there, crouched on.
Speaker 3: And then I finally, I think I was about twenty
Speaker 3: five or twenty six when I bought my first climbing stand.
Speaker 1: And have you ever fallen out of one?
Speaker 3: Never felling out of a stand, I've I've done what
Speaker 3: he was talking about. I have dozed off a time
Speaker 3: or two. But that's something when i'm and it was
Speaker 3: on a on a lock on stand, which you have
Speaker 3: nothing around you or anything. And but I had my
Speaker 3: my teather on, my harness tied enough when I kind
Speaker 3: of leaned forward when I dozed off and went forward,
Speaker 3: I think that's what woke me up. I felt it
Speaker 3: pulled my shoulders like that.
Speaker 1: So you didn't go all the way.
Speaker 3: No, No, But if I hadn't had a if I
Speaker 3: hadn't had a harness on, I would have fell out
Speaker 3: that day, I think.
Speaker 2: Because I had dozed off. Yeah, yeah, but that was
Speaker 2: that was several years ago. That was probably twenty five
Speaker 2: years ago when that happened to me.
Speaker 1: Wow, Shane Watt story stood out to you.
Speaker 4: I like them. I like them all.
Speaker 2: That's all unique, you know, on certain aspects, but I
Speaker 2: mean really and it ain't because Mos sitting here. My
Speaker 2: favorite ones were Mo's because because I can I relate
Speaker 2: to what you get that Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 2: that's first person just told me that ain't said a
Speaker 2: thing about my stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah he's he won't.
Speaker 2: But now just because of knowing knowing what the country
Speaker 2: is like over here where he hunts, and it's a
Speaker 2: lot like over at home.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's.
Speaker 2: Rough, it's big woods, hard to get to, you know,
Speaker 2: just everything about I can relate, you know, just kind
Speaker 2: of relate to it. And it's you know, you don't
Speaker 2: hear a lot of people, you know, talk about hunting
Speaker 2: in that kind of country, you know, really very seldom.
Speaker 4: I mean it's always you're either you know, in the
Speaker 4: South or Midwest.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a whole different a little bit, just
Speaker 2: a whole different hunting food plots or something like that,
Speaker 2: just just a whole different hunting experience. And I I
Speaker 2: mean that's what I've growed up done, and I just
Speaker 2: that's just relate to that. So I mean that's I
Speaker 2: enjoy it when I hear somebody talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you, I hear you, Uh, which which
Speaker 1: one dies? You like Bear. I liked Mitch Psike's the
Speaker 1: one where he killed the the big buck over the scrape.
Speaker 1: Whenever he talked about just seeing the deer across the
Speaker 1: road and then like finding this the pocket of white oaks,
Speaker 1: and then going up and finding those scrapes. That just
Speaker 1: it just got me didding for you. Yeah, that's all. Huh,
Speaker 1: No more stories. I mean they were all good. I
Speaker 1: also liked yours, mo. I mean you didn't want to
Speaker 1: say it, say it. I didn't want to say it,
Speaker 1: but no I did, just because it was like, especially
Speaker 1: the one where you were walking and you see the
Speaker 1: buck down below you.
Speaker 3: That just I hunt quite a bit like that, especially
Speaker 3: in my a loader or the modern gun. Clay knows
Speaker 3: that because that will and him has talked about that
Speaker 3: a lot, and and especially in places where deer get
Speaker 3: pressured at the times they stay bedded up.
Speaker 2: I've killed two.
Speaker 3: Three that I've watched get up out of their beds
Speaker 3: doing that same thing, not knowing I was there, and
Speaker 3: maybe even seen me. And I've seen deer get up
Speaker 3: and leaving me never get a shot at him doing
Speaker 3: the same thing. But it's it's I enjoy hunting that way.
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4: Now? What was the gentleman's name is?
Speaker 2: Somebody's the guy killed the kid killing the deer where
Speaker 2: he's pushing these defence down these horns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his name is Henry Sue's song.
Speaker 4: Yeah Sue song.
Speaker 2: He told the story last year, didn't he?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that guy is a he is. He is
Speaker 1: an incredible bow hunter. He lives in East Tennessee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hunting country like that here. It is not a destination
Speaker 1: whitetail area at all. And uh, but those guys also
Speaker 1: hunt Illinois. His his truck, he has a a big,
Speaker 1: a big room, way bit like twice as big as
Speaker 1: this room. That is just literally from the floor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got deer mount starting about four foot on the wall.
Speaker 1: They go all the way to the ceiling. Him and
Speaker 1: his boys are real good deer hunters over there. But
Speaker 1: they spent a lot of they kill a lot of
Speaker 1: them in the big ones in Illinois. They got a
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they had a two undred inch deer
Speaker 1: in there, and wow, and a couple of one night.
Speaker 1: You put a picture of that last year, probably did.
Speaker 3: I was thinking I've seen to remember a picture of
Speaker 3: that last year, after the stories that you'd put on
Speaker 3: you know, social media or something of that room with
Speaker 3: all those deer and you said, this is yeah, this
Speaker 3: is a room that will anybody.
Speaker 1: That guy he's uh, he's eighty two, and I mean
Speaker 1: just just just couldn't wait to tell talk about deer hunting.
Speaker 1: I mean it was just giddy. I mean just like
Speaker 1: we were coming down through there. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: such a great guy.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then that little story to me, sometimes those little
Speaker 1: funny stories are I like them just because it's it's
Speaker 1: just something different.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I really like Bob Wilson's garhole story too. It's short,
Speaker 4: but it made it made me last Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I think we've all been in like
Speaker 3: Bear was telling earlier, kind of gar hoole with these
Speaker 3: friends and that I think we've all been in that
Speaker 3: scenario if you've hunted very long on both ends of it,
Speaker 3: went to people that sent you to place, and you
Speaker 3: was thinking, why am I here? You know, ain't seen
Speaker 3: a thing, and then you took people with you that
Speaker 3: this guy coming, I wasn't expecting to be here, but
Speaker 3: we have. We've got to put him somewhere to go.
Speaker 3: You know, so we've all kind of been in that
Speaker 3: scenario if we've hunted very much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Shane, what's your favorite deer story? You're
Speaker 1: like your personal dear story, like a big If I'd
Speaker 1: asked you, what would you have told me? Would you
Speaker 1: tell me about one of your big deer? Would you
Speaker 1: have told me about something funny that happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've got personally probably one of the
Speaker 2: big deer that I've killed. But since that time, you know,
Speaker 2: it's the when I've witnessed my boys shooting deer and
Speaker 2: nurse it's just hard to it's hard to wrap the
Speaker 2: you know, explain that feeling to give when you see
Speaker 2: your you know, when your sons shoots his first deer,
Speaker 2: much less one hundred and fifty inch deer, which that was,
Speaker 2: that's probably one of the better highlights.
Speaker 4: Uh this last year, we had a.
Speaker 2: We had a buck that I had found there pretty
Speaker 2: close to the house, just showed up out of the blue.
Speaker 2: I don't know who where he come from, because that's
Speaker 2: that's out of the ordinary for a deer like that
Speaker 2: to be there. And uh so my my oldest son,
Speaker 2: which is has killed a lot of stuff and a
Speaker 2: lot of big stuff. He he told his little brother
Speaker 2: said no, I'll let you. I'm gonna let you hunt
Speaker 2: that deer. And uh, which was kind of shocking to
Speaker 2: me because you know that, you know, it's pretty generous,
Speaker 2: pretty pretty generous, you know. So anyway, we we me
Speaker 2: and Trenting and we we we hang a stand and
Speaker 2: I get everything, you know, set up the best I
Speaker 2: can for him, and uh, we was hunting every evening
Speaker 2: we could, you know, one season opening and evening after
Speaker 2: school or when I get off work.
Speaker 4: But so on.
Speaker 2: Uh, I believe I believe it was actually October first.
Speaker 2: It was one of them days kind of like this
Speaker 2: past weekend. It was hot there at home. We get
Speaker 2: out there and getting a tree like at four o'clock
Speaker 2: and just freaking, you know, burning up this one.
Speaker 4: You know, why why are we sitting here?
Speaker 2: You know, because it ain't just happened to look over
Speaker 2: he said, there's there's there's a deer coming. Well I
Speaker 2: get to watching, Well that's this freaking deer that we'd
Speaker 2: been you know, had got word of and I had
Speaker 2: had found him, got pictures of even so I knew it,
Speaker 2: knew exactly who it was or what it was, well,
Speaker 2: he comes out and he kind of bypasses this, but
Speaker 2: he goes through a strip and goes into a little
Speaker 2: bit of a uh a mode off field, you know,
Speaker 2: behind us, And I seen where he went through, and
Speaker 2: there was kind of an old there's a little a
Speaker 2: swe a swag in this field where they they'll come
Speaker 2: back and forth across. And I don't know what he
Speaker 2: was doing why he went over there out of the
Speaker 2: way went out. Next thing I know, we turned around here.
Speaker 2: He's coming right back on the trail that comes right
Speaker 2: by us, you know, and he comes in front of
Speaker 2: treading there at you know, eighteen yards and I'm standing
Speaker 2: right over his shoulder and he puts an there through
Speaker 2: him and we watch him fall, and I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's just the dangous thing.
Speaker 1: A video with your phone, and I was, I was
Speaker 1: just shook up, Clay.
Speaker 2: I couldn't I had it in my hand. I couldn't
Speaker 2: even get it, you know, get it out and and
Speaker 2: vigear in our mind though, I was, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, so you cool, you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty in one hundred and forty seven.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's a heck of a dear Yeah, nine pointer.
Speaker 2: You know, if he'd been he he had a really
Speaker 2: really good frame. I mean he could have been.
Speaker 4: He was a nice deer for sure, really really good deer.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: But that's probably one of the biggest everything, you know,
Speaker 2: just yeah, mainly probably because he's a little his older
Speaker 2: brother sy y'all, let you on him and if if
Speaker 2: you miss him, then I'm going to go kill him. Well,
Speaker 2: he didn't miss him, so I guess that was a
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, man, that's cool. Well, mo, if you
Speaker 1: had an't made any more hunting stories since you told
Speaker 1: us that one, since I told you those, well that
Speaker 1: was eight and nine years ago. So yeah, I've had
Speaker 1: several stories. No, no, no, And now we were recorded
Speaker 1: you telling them like two three weeks ago. Have you
Speaker 1: hunted any of this year?
Speaker 4: Yet?
Speaker 3: Only one day is all. I've been one day with
Speaker 3: my bow and I bear hunting one day with my bow.
Speaker 2: It's just been so hot and it has been and.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it the last time it rained around here.
Speaker 3: They was thinking about that today where I live down here,
Speaker 3: you know, north of mountain Berg. The last marriageable rain
Speaker 3: we had down there was seven weeks ago, and we
Speaker 3: got a little over an inch and two days span
Speaker 3: down there. We haven't had we haven't had a drift
Speaker 3: since then. Our horse pastures are burning up. I'm feeding
Speaker 3: eight their horses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and wow, Josh, it's on your list.
Speaker 4: I have some white tail white tail trivia.
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, I forgot. Yeah, we got to We're gonna
Speaker 1: end with some white tailed trivia. So you didn't know what, Shane,
Speaker 1: but you should have been listening.
Speaker 4: I should have ever winds gets uh. This this from
Speaker 4: bear Yep, George saddle.
Speaker 3: You're ever gonna ride in that saddle I have.
Speaker 1: Look you can tell it's getting a little patina on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see it.
Speaker 1: Now, that's the saddle my buddy cold.
Speaker 3: I remember you told me when you got that, he
Speaker 3: told you you better use it.
Speaker 1: So I have. I like to keep it in here
Speaker 1: on the on the stand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a pretty cool saddle.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, okay, trivia, let's go.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got five questions regarding.
Speaker 1: White How tell us the rules? Like the first person
Speaker 1: to answer?
Speaker 4: What I kind of want to do? I wish I
Speaker 4: had something for y'all to write on because I want
Speaker 4: I want everybody to give an answer. Yeah, I want
Speaker 4: everybody to give an answer, and we'll see we could
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 1: We could be honest. Answer should we just oh? Because
Speaker 1: I could say the answer in the moke and cheat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I want I want everybody to say an answer,
Speaker 4: even if it's the same answer as someone else.
Speaker 3: But answer same white does because his answers, because.
Speaker 4: We're using the honor system here too.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4: First question is regarding deer antlers. Okay, Baron and I
Speaker 4: were having this discussion. I think that wait minute, this
Speaker 4: is with the stories, right, No, No, this is white
Speaker 4: tail trivia.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people from this country call
Speaker 2: them horns. Yeah, I know that's right.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought I thought it was trivia about the story.
Speaker 4: This is whitetail trivia. White I mean, we have stories.
Speaker 4: Trivia would have been way better, but we have these.
Speaker 4: We have these white tail hunters. They should know about
Speaker 4: white tail. Okay, okay, okay, So dear antlers start growing
Speaker 4: mid March to early April.
Speaker 3: Okay, where'd you learn that at They teach you that internet?
Speaker 4: The Internet? No, because I didn't see the inside of college. Well,
Speaker 4: I was told once.
Speaker 3: If they start growing as soon as they shed their horns,
Speaker 3: really they start han't read the internet? How Deerby just
Speaker 3: told me that though, so he's probably wrong, probably wrong.
Speaker 2: He didn't learn.
Speaker 4: How much can deer antlers grow in one day? An
Speaker 4: eighth of an inch, a quarter inch, a half inch,
Speaker 4: or a full inch, full inch, full inch.
Speaker 1: Half inch, half inch, full inch.
Speaker 4: There was one quarter of an inch. A deer antler
Speaker 4: can grow up to a little over an inch and
Speaker 4: a half per week. I mean you think about.
Speaker 1: That, How does like one hundred and ninety inches of
Speaker 1: antler fit in like the three month growing season. Do
Speaker 1: the map?
Speaker 4: So what it says, that's what a reliable source of
Speaker 4: internet no order inch per day?
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do the math here from April, May, June, July, August,
Speaker 1: five months, thirty days, one hundred and fifty days.
Speaker 4: That's a that's an inch per day, well okay, I mean.
Speaker 1: Not every one hundred and fifty inches, So that's multiple
Speaker 1: points of that antler. Antlers you grow the total growth.
Speaker 1: So I think it could work. Your point, your your
Speaker 1: question was I was with you an inch a day.
Speaker 4: I thought I had as well. Yeah, sure, and that
Speaker 4: might be like.
Speaker 1: The kind of big there me and Shane or killing
Speaker 1: but will grow an inch a day?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, question two, Question two, Yeah, in your mind
Speaker 4: this one is. This one is filling the blank. So
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to give me an answer. Okay, I
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys. So, I spent a lot
Speaker 4: of time with the White River fishing and in the fall,
Speaker 4: I see a lot of deer swim the river, even
Speaker 4: when it's flowing pretty good. And I'm always amazed at how.
Speaker 1: Does this job? Story time? Now, that is a question.
Speaker 4: This is the question. I'm always amazed at how good
Speaker 4: a swimmers deer are. Why is that? What characteristic about
Speaker 4: deer makes them a good first besides clay?
Speaker 1: This time, Shane, I've got my answer.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a characteristic about deer that makes some
Speaker 4: good good swimmers.
Speaker 2: I've never thought about that. I guess I don't have
Speaker 2: a good answer.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: Mo their hair, Okay, what about it? The way it
Speaker 3: sheds water and stuff like that. It don't soak up
Speaker 3: with water, Okay.
Speaker 1: Webbed hoofs, I think mos onto it. I think it's
Speaker 1: buoyant hair. Like if you I know, a deer hide,
Speaker 1: if you put it on water. I've never done it,
Speaker 1: but I can just envision. It is a good point because,
Speaker 1: like you type flies, Clay and Mo got it.
Speaker 4: The reason is that deer hair. Deer hair is actually hollow. Okay.
Speaker 4: And they say that the buoyancy of the fair of
Speaker 4: a deer will keep a third of its body out
Speaker 4: of water.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I know that was a pretty good question, Josh.
Speaker 4: Okay, what is the max life span of a white tail?
Speaker 1: Dude, there's got to be a you're.
Speaker 4: Saying max as max life span like the oldest deer,
Speaker 4: not the oldest deer, but but a max like general.
Speaker 1: Deer commonly lived at ten years old.
Speaker 4: Okay, but is that max? Would you consider that a max?
Speaker 1: Fifteen max? Sorry, change my answer thirteen.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say. I'm gonna say and you're saying
Speaker 3: average from maximum.
Speaker 4: Life Yeah, well not not like the oldest deer in
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as an average maximum.
Speaker 3: That's why I asked, don't question the question.
Speaker 4: The don't question the question.
Speaker 1: If you.
Speaker 4: Don't get a podcast and you got a question every
Speaker 4: eighteen years ten, I'm gonna go ten twenty. It's twenty years.
Speaker 1: They can live probably in captivity. Is it shorter for bugs.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's a good question they say. They said that deer
Speaker 4: typically live three and a half to six years, but
Speaker 4: can live as much as twenty Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, on where they're at.
Speaker 1: Take what is the subjective?
Speaker 4: What is the max speed of a white tailed deer?
Speaker 1: Thirty five miles from now?
Speaker 3: Thirty four thirty six, twenty seven thirty is what they say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, price is right. What'd you say?
Speaker 4: Twenty seven?
Speaker 1: That's close?
Speaker 4: Okay. Last question, and this one is definitive. There's no
Speaker 4: gray area. Okay, good. How many states have the white
Speaker 4: tailed deer as their state animal?
Speaker 1: Oh? Gosh? Seven?
Speaker 4: Four, two three?
Speaker 1: Would you say seven?
Speaker 4: The answer is nine? Really nine nine states, which would
Speaker 4: be Arkansas, Illinois, Michigan, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South
Speaker 4: South Carolina, and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: So okay, that was pretty good, Joe.
Speaker 2: We had no winner, no winner, Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: No winter?
Speaker 4: Have you? Guys all were terrible answering this question, just argumentative, unruly,
Speaker 4: and there's no winners today. I'm not going to here.
Speaker 4: There are no winners on bear grease.
Speaker 3: But you have to look at the source of the questionnaire.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you don't.
Speaker 1: Oh that was pretty good. I like that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: now see, I thought I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be questions about the.
Speaker 4: Stories, like it's what here would.
Speaker 1: Have been a good question. What procedure did Gerald Brewer
Speaker 1: take when driving his truck to try to obey the
Speaker 1: law when he was with his young men? Tee?
Speaker 4: Now say against he took the cap He took the
Speaker 4: caps off of his muzzleloader before he put him in
Speaker 4: the truck. That's what. Oh yeah, okay, I see Jerald Brouh.
Speaker 1: Okay. Another question would be I'm just shooting from the
Speaker 1: hip here. Okay, so josh one, okay, we're continuing the trivia. Okay.
Speaker 1: How wide was the spread on the buck that Mitch
Speaker 1: Sykes killed? The Hide and Seek buck twenty.
Speaker 2: Two twenty four? Ward is right at twenty four.
Speaker 1: Ward, okay.
Speaker 4: Eighteen? I thought it was eighteen to two.
Speaker 1: Twenty four inches twenty four inches wide. Yeah, see the
Speaker 1: speaking of a shepherd. I was listening. I was listening.
Speaker 4: Okay, if you follow nukem on on Instagram, here's another question.
Speaker 4: What color was Mitch Psych's Ford Ranger?
Speaker 1: Was it gray? He didn't he didn't even have a
Speaker 1: Ford ranger on my Instagram.
Speaker 4: The picture you posted, I think, Oh no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: Keith Polk. What color was Keith Polk? What color ranger?
Speaker 2: Gray? Nope, I don't know if I've seen that or not.
Speaker 4: Maroon. It was tan. It was classic tan board ranger.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, this has been really good chain, it's been
Speaker 1: good to catch up with it. Hey, where can people
Speaker 1: find m m P? Like, how do they Who's who's
Speaker 1: the customer you're looking for here?
Speaker 2: Just a any musload or hunter that's needing parts. Just
Speaker 2: get on the website m m P sabos dot com
Speaker 2: and check it out and yeah we will we be
Speaker 2: proud to help you out. Or and you can even
Speaker 2: our phone numbers listened down there. You can call us
Speaker 2: if you need an assistance on anything that you may
Speaker 2: may need or think you want to try.
Speaker 1: Right on.
Speaker 3: Good seeing you again, Jane, than you. Maybe it won't
Speaker 3: be twelve years before we see Maybe not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't even talk about the where we you know,
Speaker 1: they met at an Arkansas Arkansas Black Bear Association event. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the day, in the early years. Yeah, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming man telling stories so they're always good. Appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Barry.
Speaker 1: You didn't get to talk about yourself? But what are
Speaker 1: you making? Got self bow?
Speaker 4: Elm?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, I don't don't.
Speaker 2: You don't have a clue.
Speaker 1: No, it's just I just know it is the worst.
Speaker 2: Looks like looks like white album to me.
Speaker 1: Now, why are you making an elm self bow? It's
Speaker 1: just the only dry stave I have. Oh really, I
Speaker 1: won't have enough.
Speaker 4: A traditional thing to make it out of elm or.
Speaker 1: I mean, people make a lot of elmbowsky, but it's
Speaker 1: not I don't the poor folks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, have you.
Speaker 2: Have you studied have you studied sas frash wood.
Speaker 1: I've heard some guys making with SaaS fras.
Speaker 3: But that's why I was asking you, because because I've
Speaker 3: I've noticed something made out of SaaS frash.
Speaker 1: It's had to be a pretty big It's pretty sad when.
Speaker 3: Out of elmwood I can chased some SaaS fresh it's
Speaker 3: bigger in Oh.
Speaker 1: Really yep, dang that'd be good. Well, yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Good to see everybody, Yes, sir, and uh hey next week.
Speaker 1: Next week we're starting our Osceola series. We're getting back
Speaker 1: in all this all the bear greazers that it feel
Speaker 1: like they've kind of got to take some time off
Speaker 1: and enjoy the podcast, like with stories and stuff. We're
Speaker 1: getting back on track and we're doing some hard hitting
Speaker 1: history that means something. Okay, no, this, we've been working
Speaker 1: on this for like a year and a half. Yep,
Speaker 1: I read my first book on Ostiel a year and
Speaker 1: a half ago.
Speaker 4: Also, not to foreshadow, there's a potential of some inductees
Speaker 4: into the Bear Grease Hall.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Yeah. So now I'm really excited about the
Speaker 1: Ostiola series that's gonna start like next Wednesday, from when
Speaker 1: you see this, but also sometime in the next month,
Speaker 1: Bear when when Misty's here, Brent's here, probably get my
Speaker 1: dad up here. We're going to do an official induction
Speaker 1: into the Bear Grease Hall of Fame. It's been like
Speaker 1: two years since we've done a Hall of Fame induction.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was an official event. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody wears suits and stuff.
Speaker 4: Black ty shoot plus one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a it's it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: It's it's been a couple of years and we've got
Speaker 1: a couple of candidates.
Speaker 2: Done a haircut. You didn't know it just for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably have to get a haircut for that,
Speaker 1: another one, another cut, all right, guys,