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Speaker 1: I don't have my crime. He's here with me today.
Speaker 1: James is in the hospital. He's doing well. He's going
Speaker 1: to get some surgery, getting the shoulder took care of,
Speaker 1: and eight is out on tour. But the day I'm
Speaker 1: going to hold it down with one of my favorite
Speaker 1: guests of all time, kind of notorious in his own right,
Speaker 1: Mr Sammy the Bull. Man, I'm stale and uh there's
Speaker 1: just a second time I'm around, and uh, great guy,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to the interview, and uh, let's
Speaker 1: here what happens for sure? Man, for sure, we have
Speaker 1: us a good time. Man. We're gonna ask some of
Speaker 1: these questions. Man, we got had like thousand people send
Speaker 1: me questions for you, but I got my own ship.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you first and get that out
Speaker 1: the way first. You know, everybody knows your reputation. Man,
Speaker 1: now you've confessed to being involved in nineteen murders. How
Speaker 1: were you we first committed your first murder? I believe
Speaker 1: I was four as old and when I did my
Speaker 1: first one, and uh, I was just a member of
Speaker 1: the Colombo family. I was an associate. It came down
Speaker 1: from the boss Joe Colombo to call my persico to
Speaker 1: a guy named Shorty Spirit who was my boss. And um,
Speaker 1: I got the contract. So when we talk about contracts,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? The name is not enough? Some
Speaker 1: piece of paperwork somewhere floating around. Yeah, well it's you're
Speaker 1: the guy who's going to be the guy who's doing
Speaker 1: the shooting and doing the hit. You're in charge of
Speaker 1: the hit and you're calling all the shots and they
Speaker 1: give you a guy's name who's gonna go the reason why,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's about it. It's as simple as that. Now,
Speaker 1: what happens when it's one of those situations and this
Speaker 1: is the person that you actually care about, like this
Speaker 1: is a good friend of yours. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: that moment? Oh? Absolutely, I mean absolutely, But you know
Speaker 1: it depends on when it comes down what you did.
Speaker 1: If you broke rules, certain rules and goes to austra um,
Speaker 1: you have to go. Now, if it's personal, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. If he broke certain rules, we all
Speaker 1: take an oath to be in that life. We all
Speaker 1: understand the rules and regulations. Now, if I broke the rule,
Speaker 1: maybe he would be shooting me. But he broke the rule,
Speaker 1: it wasn't me, and there's nothing I could do about it.
Speaker 1: And that oath has took him pretty seriously, or it's
Speaker 1: taken very seriously. Wow, So you get a guy that's
Speaker 1: been your friend for years. You guys could have grew
Speaker 1: up together, and they say that this guy has to go.
Speaker 1: He has to go, Yes, yes, more or less. I
Speaker 1: mean you can talk for him the depending, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to save his life. You can try to reason
Speaker 1: with the bosses and whatever. But if the reason is
Speaker 1: too great he broke a rule that's you know, sacred
Speaker 1: to them, then he's just gotta go. There's nothing you
Speaker 1: could do about it. Wow, man, that's deep. Man. Now,
Speaker 1: you were involved in to hit him the Gambino cryme
Speaker 1: boss Podcastiano. Yes, and was that to authorize it? No,
Speaker 1: that could have ended up in some big ship man,
Speaker 1: if it went wrong. Huh. Oh, absolutely actually did go wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean we did lose guys. Frank Chico was blown
Speaker 1: up four months later, the guys Eddie Leno. There was
Speaker 1: guys who were killed. It. It broke into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a war. We were so powerful John Gotti
Speaker 1: and myself and a few others that it was hard
Speaker 1: to come against us. We just had an army, We
Speaker 1: had a hundred shooters with us, so it's really was hard.
Speaker 1: So they had to do things. When they did it,
Speaker 1: they did it real sneaky, so we wouldn't know who
Speaker 1: did what. So but that we did lose some guys.
Speaker 1: That was a dangerous time. Now what makes you guys
Speaker 1: the side? Uh, pretty much contract that guy's life with
Speaker 1: a contract that on podcast out. Well, he made a
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes that would just when you're the boss,
Speaker 1: your word ist gospel. But still you've gotta be fair
Speaker 1: and there's things that you can do. You could put
Speaker 1: your own life in jeopardy. And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: Now John Gotti and his crew there was a rule
Speaker 1: about not dealing drugs. You deal drugs and you die.
Speaker 1: Him and his crew got caught deal in drugs. Um,
Speaker 1: he was in trouble. His whole crew was in trouble.
Speaker 1: But Paul made so many other blunders and so many
Speaker 1: things that guys didn't agree with that rather than killing John,
Speaker 1: we decided to take out Paul and change the life
Speaker 1: around and bring it back to what it was supposed
Speaker 1: to be. If he didn't do all his crimes, then
Speaker 1: maybe John Gotti would have and uh, we wouldn't help him. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's deep, man. And do you think he ever saw
Speaker 1: it coming? No? Obviously not no, no, he never It's
Speaker 1: it's so we put it together so well together. I
Speaker 1: actually planned the hit. It was in midtown Manhattan, in
Speaker 1: front of Box steakhouse. It was five thirty at night,
Speaker 1: right before Christmas, mobs of people in the street, cops everywhere.
Speaker 1: He never saw that coming and that that's what I
Speaker 1: looked for, and I knew the confusion would help us
Speaker 1: get away with it and would confuse everything. And it
Speaker 1: worked to a tape. We had eleven guys on the hit.
Speaker 1: Bad Guy's crashed cause four shooters who would shoot Paul
Speaker 1: and Tommy Bloody, his driver, bodyguard. So it just came
Speaker 1: down smooth. Wow. It seems like there's an enormous amount
Speaker 1: of planning that goes into this. It's just not like
Speaker 1: the stuff that you see the day to where dude
Speaker 1: is um walking up the liquor store and the characterized
Speaker 1: by and hits everybody else around the guy except the
Speaker 1: attended venthom. You know, they shoot kids, grandmother's, mamas and
Speaker 1: everybody else. It seems like when you guys were out
Speaker 1: there doing your thing, you put a lot of meticulous
Speaker 1: effort into it. We were planning this for about eight
Speaker 1: months to get the right spot, and I a great
Speaker 1: We make sure it's not in front of families, um,
Speaker 1: their own family. Uh, we try to pick a spot
Speaker 1: where we could do it properly and without hurting innocent people.
Speaker 1: But by the same token, if anybody would have interfered
Speaker 1: with that hit, they would have got hit to so
Speaker 1: but nobody interfered. Everybody reading and screaming, yelling, shots flying
Speaker 1: all over the place. But it wasn't all over the place,
Speaker 1: it was into their bodies. They were right up on top. No,
Speaker 1: no shooting from a car. We were right up Their
Speaker 1: shooters were right up on top of the guys. The
Speaker 1: guns were probably inches away from them when they were
Speaker 1: pulling triggers. So nobody would get hurt. The whole team
Speaker 1: had to move away from that hit. We had to
Speaker 1: work together. We had a thing that it was a
Speaker 1: do or die hit. It had to be done, and
Speaker 1: you don't move until the whole team moves. If you
Speaker 1: move or tried to run before the team moved, then
Speaker 1: you better keep running because we're gonna kill you too
Speaker 1: as soon as we get you. Wow. Man, So this
Speaker 1: dude ever dimly pissed a lot of people off. Man.
Speaker 1: People were upsetting at them. They decided he has to go.
Speaker 1: So you guys playing this um, did anybody at any
Speaker 1: point they were trying to talk you guys out of
Speaker 1: moving forward. No, because it wasn't discussed with very many people.
Speaker 1: It was a small little group of us. There was
Speaker 1: we called it the Fist. There was five guys who
Speaker 1: were important in this. We called it the Fist, and uh,
Speaker 1: it was us. We didn't I didn't even I had
Speaker 1: a crew. I didn't talk to my crew about it. Um,
Speaker 1: they didn't know what was going on. Just one guy
Speaker 1: in the crew. I did talk to it. This guy,
Speaker 1: the old man Joe Pruda, because at one point we
Speaker 1: considered him to be the guy who was going to
Speaker 1: do the work. They would stop before they went to
Speaker 1: court every morning in a Greek dinner, they would sit
Speaker 1: near the toilet. We were gonna put a shot cut
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Pruder could have went into the bathroom,
Speaker 1: opened the door, come out and pop the two of
Speaker 1: him right away, and that we would have shoot his
Speaker 1: all over the place to back him up. But the
Speaker 1: same place that Paul and Tommy would stop before any
Speaker 1: breakfast before they went to court, a whole shipload of
Speaker 1: cops did the same thing. There was just too many
Speaker 1: cops there, so that plan went down the drain. But
Speaker 1: That's why I talked with the old man Pruda, and
Speaker 1: he knew, But the other people in my crew I
Speaker 1: didn't even tell them. So when you guys, um, what's
Speaker 1: that process like, when you guys are deciding who's gonna
Speaker 1: actually actually be the one to pull the trigger, how
Speaker 1: does that process go? Well, I believe you know that's
Speaker 1: not important. The planning of the hit of where he
Speaker 1: can't get away one? Two, where we could get away? Three?
Speaker 1: Where's the police? And who would be a backup shooter
Speaker 1: to shoot it out? If we're shooting it out with
Speaker 1: the cops, who would back up the shooters? Um, we
Speaker 1: picked the four shooters, but every guy on that hit
Speaker 1: could have been a shooter. It it doesn't it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: you know. I I've always trying to uh learned. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who pulls the trigger. It's the man who
Speaker 1: makes the plans, plans it, where it's done, it's done efficiently.
Speaker 1: No matter which way you turn, you're gonna bump into
Speaker 1: one of us and you're gonna get hit. Now all
Speaker 1: of all of a sudden, he becomes the shooter. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if a gun jams, there's people
Speaker 1: there the The idea of it is to do it
Speaker 1: quick effectively without hurting innocent people. When you start hurting
Speaker 1: innocent people like you said to but drive by, you
Speaker 1: come by and you open the window and start shooting.
Speaker 1: When you hit innocent kids, or innocent women, or people
Speaker 1: who are innocent to the whole thing, you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: an enormous amount of heat. It seems like the law
Speaker 1: enforcement they'll investigate this to no end, but they don't
Speaker 1: really give a fuck when you're shooting each other. But
Speaker 1: when you're shooting innocent people, you're gonna bring the wrath
Speaker 1: of the entire fucking system down on you. So it
Speaker 1: depends on how you want it. That's the way the
Speaker 1: mafia does it. We plant, we're in no rush. We
Speaker 1: watch you day and night. We'll pick a spot, we'll
Speaker 1: plan it, and um, you're gonna go just a matter
Speaker 1: of time. Wow, Because you know what, we see a
Speaker 1: lot of people like, oh, I love gangster ship. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, I love gangster ship. So
Speaker 1: whether it's about to tell your mofia F thirteen Black
Speaker 1: Guerrilla Family, I'm in all that ship. Right. So you're
Speaker 1: a guy, you're a gangster for all predical purposes. You know,
Speaker 1: you're a gangster. I'm a gangster. I'm literally a gangster
Speaker 1: all my life before that, I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: was dyslexic, I had trouble in school. School wasn't my thing.
Speaker 1: So I belonged to a gang, the Rampus street gang.
Speaker 1: Nothing sophisticated, just a bunch of young turks running around
Speaker 1: and doing stupid ship most of the time. And when
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, I got drafted during the Vietnam War
Speaker 1: and went to military being taught to kill because you're
Speaker 1: gonna you probably we will be involved in the war.
Speaker 1: I came out. I was twenty one years old. Um
Speaker 1: At I became an associate of the Colombo family. At
Speaker 1: I did my first piece of work, meaning a hit,
Speaker 1: and from that point on, I was you know. After
Speaker 1: a while, I was transferred from the Colombo family to
Speaker 1: the Gambino family. I was with this old man, the
Speaker 1: old man Tatto, very wise, very powerful captain, and he's
Speaker 1: the guy who actually told me, um that using your
Speaker 1: head is the most important thing. My Gumbaa was a
Speaker 1: tough guy, Ali boy Como and uh Tatto one time
Speaker 1: grabbed me says I'll come every time there's a stick up.
Speaker 1: You're walking in the store with the gun first and
Speaker 1: ali boys behind you. I said, he's a tough guy, bro,
Speaker 1: he's got my back and I'm comfortab. But with that,
Speaker 1: he said, yes, he is a tough guy, he said,
Speaker 1: but he's renacting reactionary. If there's a problem, a cop
Speaker 1: walks by, I don't even know what's going on here,
Speaker 1: he's gonna start shooting. He's not gonna try and think
Speaker 1: his way out of it. Whatever, He's gonna start shooting immediately.
Speaker 1: You got brains, you think if you reverse that and
Speaker 1: you're the backup shooter or the backup guy, you're gonna
Speaker 1: think and try to think your way out of it.
Speaker 1: You don't have to necessarily start shooting. If there's a problem,
Speaker 1: you will shoot. I know that, but you'll think first,
Speaker 1: try to do it the other way around. I thought
Speaker 1: about it, and I started doing that, and I thought
Speaker 1: that he was right, Michael Mada. I loved him, a
Speaker 1: real tough guy, but he would shoot you right away,
Speaker 1: no hesitation, and I didn't want that. We don't have
Speaker 1: to be on the murder. We're on a stick up.
Speaker 1: If we could think our way out, if there's a problem.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. It's one thing to do a stick up,
Speaker 1: it's a whole another thing to leave a body and
Speaker 1: do a murder. Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you about. You know, recently in l A. L
Speaker 1: A has actually had a rash of robberies that have
Speaker 1: resulted and people getting murdered. I'm talking about high profile guys.
Speaker 1: You know, a guy sitting in the restaurant with his
Speaker 1: fiancee eat lunch and he gets murdered for his chain.
Speaker 1: I thought that was ridiculous. I said, you know, when
Speaker 1: when do we start, like when did the victims of
Speaker 1: robbery started getting murdered and shot in cold blood? It's
Speaker 1: crazy to me. And I think that goes back to
Speaker 1: what you said about planning things. These things obviously aren't planned.
Speaker 1: I think it's the thing that we're literally somebody is
Speaker 1: in the restaurant. They called and say, hey, he's just
Speaker 1: guys in here shining. Let's get them. Somebody comes in.
Speaker 1: I think you was you know, some people are scary, man,
Speaker 1: some people are shoot you. Yeah. But I was in
Speaker 1: prison with a guy and uh, he went in to
Speaker 1: bodega and went in with have gone to rob it,
Speaker 1: and uh, he pulled his gun out, told the guy
Speaker 1: to give him his money. The guy opened the register,
Speaker 1: got all the money, the money under the count, everything,
Speaker 1: and gave it to him. And he shot him and
Speaker 1: killed him. And he was in prison with me. So
Speaker 1: I told him, why did you shoot him? He gave
Speaker 1: you the money, he said, said he he could have
Speaker 1: been a witness. Then why the fund did you wear
Speaker 1: a mask? A mask? They don't think the guy's gonna
Speaker 1: give you the money. If you wore a mask, you
Speaker 1: robbed him and give you the money, He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a witness. Obviously, you don't want to have to
Speaker 1: shoot him. And now you're facing not only robbery, but
Speaker 1: a murder case, and it gets more intense. It's one
Speaker 1: thing for bodega or a story to get robbed. It's
Speaker 1: a whole nother thing on the murder, you know. And
Speaker 1: I've been seeing that, you know, from the drive by
Speaker 1: shootings to the robberies like that. It's always a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of needless blood ship. Yeah, And I would think
Speaker 1: if that was my business crime, I would want I
Speaker 1: would want to at least the least attention possible. I
Speaker 1: want to come in that's what I'm doing and be
Speaker 1: gone right. And now the guy may not even want
Speaker 1: to be a witness. He said. Listen, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to get involved. I gift the guy the money.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he looks like. I don't know
Speaker 1: he was black, he was managed, he was white, whatever.
Speaker 1: He don't want to even get him off. Now you're
Speaker 1: forcing all kinds of things. I'll give you another example.
Speaker 1: This I would did time with these kids is M thirteen. Kids.
Speaker 1: Now you belong to a gang. You're killing people to
Speaker 1: rob a bike. You're killing people four kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: Now you belong to this gang M thirteen. Now you remember,
Speaker 1: you get arrested as an M thirt team member, and
Speaker 1: it's not from murder for anything. The public hates you.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna be the case. As soon as they
Speaker 1: hear he's a member of the M thirteen, you're dead.
Speaker 1: Even if you're innocent, you ain't gonna beat this case.
Speaker 1: They hate you. The prosecutors of go with that case.
Speaker 1: They're usually good prosecutors. Damn investigators are cops or FBI.
Speaker 1: You're going down with some broken ass lawyer, some fucking
Speaker 1: ex cop who's half a drunk and you're gonna go
Speaker 1: fight a case with a with a rap sheet of that,
Speaker 1: you're the m thirteen. You're dead. You better take a
Speaker 1: fucking pleat you're dead. You can't win the case, so
Speaker 1: you'll have that rap you you use giving yourselves that rap.
Speaker 1: The mafia don't do that the mafia. The public looks
Speaker 1: that at the mafia and says, well, they kill each
Speaker 1: other because they break rules. They don't hurt us. It's
Speaker 1: a different mentality. Not that we beat cases that much,
Speaker 1: but yeah, at least you got a shot. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never heard the one thing I've never heard. I've never
Speaker 1: heard of a bunch of keys getting killed behind the
Speaker 1: tell your mafia, no, you won't. You hear that normal
Speaker 1: street gang stuff. You hear about us all the time,
Speaker 1: you know. And and even now they got a thing
Speaker 1: to where a lot of these rappers are getting them
Speaker 1: dieted because of their rap lyrics. Right, they're they're burying themselves.
Speaker 1: They're burying their own people, their own race, that they
Speaker 1: their own worst problem. Look what's going on in Chicago.
Speaker 1: It's insane. You are killing each other for a spot.
Speaker 1: This is my drug spotty. I'm on to take over
Speaker 1: your drug spot. You could argue to fight, you could
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. But when you start killing people
Speaker 1: that twenty two shootings in a weekend, six pie people,
Speaker 1: that I mean, how are you ever your your heart?
Speaker 1: Hurting yourselves a hundred thousand percent? You know the thing
Speaker 1: he was, it's gotten so bad in Chicago, they they're stopping. Um.
Speaker 1: I think it's a threat. I wish I could find
Speaker 1: this ship. But if you threatened the public official, if
Speaker 1: you threatened somebody, if you kidnap somebody, if you attempt
Speaker 1: to kill somebody, they're letting you out of exagil No,
Speaker 1: they're not people for those crimes anymore. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: let going to their court. Data Rise. That's almost like
Speaker 1: that ship. What's that movie The Purge? It almost sounds
Speaker 1: like that, almost like that condoning it. Yeah, brother, you
Speaker 1: kill people you want to. Here's how I look at it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a black guy, but I look at it
Speaker 1: as a black guy. Why the funk would you let
Speaker 1: these guys go? Because you're letting them go in our community.
Speaker 1: It's gonna kill our people and you don't give a fuck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy and it I mean that that's racist. To me,
Speaker 1: you're letting this guy go who's fucking completely nuts and
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill more black people, but you obviously don't
Speaker 1: care about that. I'm gonna try to find this ship,
Speaker 1: but they're letting people go with some crazy ship. Attempted murder,
Speaker 1: all kind of ship. Thereeo is right there, you found it.
Speaker 1: Illinois nonentertainable offenses beginning January first, two thousand twenty three.
Speaker 1: Aggravated battery, aggravated d u y, aggravated fleeing artis and burglary,
Speaker 1: drug induced homicide, intimidation, kidnappering, robbery, second degree murder, threatening
Speaker 1: a public official. So that means, now just imagined, I'm
Speaker 1: a kid that has a living that bullshit. Anyway, a
Speaker 1: guy comes into my house, he smacks my mom around,
Speaker 1: he smacks my daddy around, steal some ship. We call
Speaker 1: the police, They come and grab this motherfucker. I go outside.
Speaker 1: Six hours later, this ain't motherfucker's sitting across from me
Speaker 1: drinking a beer. Yeah, what the fund is supposed to
Speaker 1: have no mouth will blow this guy's brains up when
Speaker 1: he comes to my house. Right, And with my point
Speaker 1: is that they don't care because that kid is gonna
Speaker 1: go not only to your mama now, she's gonna his
Speaker 1: mama now. And they're both black people and they don't care.
Speaker 1: Stop Stop that kid. You got a cop who puts
Speaker 1: his knee on somebody, he does the wrong thing, Bury him.
Speaker 1: You got a black guy who's doing that to black people.
Speaker 1: Bury hi boy. He's gonna keep doing it. So you're
Speaker 1: giving him a more or less a license. Man, I
Speaker 1: grew up a tough kid. If I had a fucking
Speaker 1: license to go out and do anything I want, only
Speaker 1: God knows what you would do. But we had. You know,
Speaker 1: you you're gonna go away for doing those things when
Speaker 1: you take that away. You just gave this kid a
Speaker 1: license to do what the funk he wants. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: it's crazy right now. Yeah, that's insane. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to answer that because it's politicians off the hook.
Speaker 1: I mean, how could you be a politician and make
Speaker 1: those lords. That means you don't care about those black
Speaker 1: lives in Chicago? What what are the answer is there?
Speaker 1: You don't care? Well, you know what I think needs
Speaker 1: to happen, Sammy um And I said this one is
Speaker 1: young man lost his life. See, I have a son
Speaker 1: that has worked very hard to get where he's at.
Speaker 1: And ever since this kid was little, always see it
Speaker 1: there that I want a big gold chain. He saw
Speaker 1: a picture of two parts of corps. You know, kids
Speaker 1: are influenced by people they see. He saw Tuthpac when
Speaker 1: he was a six year old kid. He told me, Dad,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get me a shame like that one day
Speaker 1: and the first piece of little money he got went
Speaker 1: out of bottom of Shane. No, he wasn't hanging out
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. He was at a super Bowl party
Speaker 1: with other NFL players and you know these guys. He
Speaker 1: walks out the club. Club guy comes, puts a gun
Speaker 1: in his chest. And he did just what I've always
Speaker 1: told him. Don't be a tough guy. Somebody got to
Speaker 1: drop on you. Put a gun in your chest, give
Speaker 1: them whatever the funk they want, don't do no argument.
Speaker 1: So he did that. So I get the call six
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. First I'm piste off, I'm mad,
Speaker 1: but then I'm thankful. I'm saying, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: glad my son was able to call me. Fun that Shane.
Speaker 1: He has his life, absolutely, you know, he has his
Speaker 1: life and I think, um, we need to start getting
Speaker 1: upset as the community when we got assholes out committing
Speaker 1: crimes like that, just when Johnny Officer Law does the
Speaker 1: wrong thing, just like you go out and protests behind that,
Speaker 1: go out and protests when we got these asks those
Speaker 1: that have been doing the same thing in the community
Speaker 1: for the last forty years, and you're just allowing them
Speaker 1: to get away with nobody says anything. Be just as
Speaker 1: upset because I think what happens he is man. I
Speaker 1: think people that do crying when they keep their intentions
Speaker 1: on other people that are in the same field as them,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's nothing wrong with that, because you
Speaker 1: know what you're getting into. If I decided to pledge
Speaker 1: allegiance today to the crypt Or Bloods, I expect to
Speaker 1: live a certain type of lifestyle that I expect to
Speaker 1: have problems when I go certain places. I'm asking for that.
Speaker 1: But for the person that's not asking for that ship,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be involved in that show. Agree. I agree
Speaker 1: a thousand percent shame thing with the mafia. I take
Speaker 1: this show. I know I will kill or be killed
Speaker 1: according to our rules, but there's no rules in the
Speaker 1: mafia where I'm gonna kill innocent people. The whole mafia
Speaker 1: will despise me because they'll know that what kind of
Speaker 1: heat it brings us. It gives us a different it
Speaker 1: gives you a deaferent, the public a different look at you,
Speaker 1: and after many times, they have enough for you. But
Speaker 1: what the politicians are doing confuses me because I just
Speaker 1: don't get it, unless they just want these crimes to
Speaker 1: continue for some reason. Whatever the reason is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I don't understand it, But I don't understand why
Speaker 1: the black community would vote that person in and vote
Speaker 1: them in again and again and again. What the fuck
Speaker 1: are you doing for them? You're the representative they voted
Speaker 1: you in and you're allowing this. I'm talking to any everybody,
Speaker 1: my my black brothers and sistance people I've done time with.
Speaker 1: Bro Get rid of them. Get rid of them. I
Speaker 1: don't give a fun Democratic Republican or what he is.
Speaker 1: Get rid of him because you're fighting for you, You're
Speaker 1: fighting for your community. This guy's putting them in your community.
Speaker 1: He's not putting them in mind, he's putting them in
Speaker 1: your community. So if he can't even have the decency
Speaker 1: to do that, I don't cave a funk, what color
Speaker 1: he is, or what nationality is, or if it's a
Speaker 1: man or a woman, get rid of him. He needs
Speaker 1: to go with one of the people on that. They said,
Speaker 1: if you threaten the public officials, So that means that
Speaker 1: the mayyor Chicago pisses me off, I can kick him,
Speaker 1: come out of his office, choke him out, pistol with
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and I'm gonna be free until
Speaker 1: I go to court the mayor. But that's what it says. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I doubt that. I mean they say
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You know, Obama just said, you know,
Speaker 1: letting the borders stay open, people coming in, it's cool.
Speaker 1: They just dumped the whole bunch of people in Martha's
Speaker 1: venue and he called the police and he called the
Speaker 1: National Guard to get the people away from his fucking house. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, they say one thing, but they it's they
Speaker 1: say one thing. It's good for them because those people
Speaker 1: they're letting in, as long as them in front of
Speaker 1: your houses, they there, it's a good thing. Let them
Speaker 1: let them be there. But put those same people in
Speaker 1: front of their houses. And they call him the cops,
Speaker 1: they call them the military. Get the funk out of there. So, Sammy,
Speaker 1: are you a religious guy at all? Do you have
Speaker 1: any spiritual um or your spiritual at all? Very little?
Speaker 1: That's what it is with religion. I believe in God
Speaker 1: just like anybody else. I believe in God because who
Speaker 1: made this whole thing? You look at the sky, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Who could make that? But religions, uh, I find don't
Speaker 1: live up to their own what they say. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't what what's what you shouldn't do? But they
Speaker 1: do the same thing. There's religions who say they were
Speaker 1: against gay people and some of their priests. So I mean, like, like,
Speaker 1: you know my religion and I was Catholic, go to
Speaker 1: go to and confess and I would go there. Give
Speaker 1: me tell me what you did wrong? No, fuck, you
Speaker 1: tell me where you did wrong, bro, don't be telling me.
Speaker 1: That's why I'll tell me what you did wrong, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did wrong. Yeah. And and religions,
Speaker 1: it's all about money, a lot of it. So I'm
Speaker 1: not that you know, you know, I hear these stories.
Speaker 1: If you don't come true, Jesus Christ, you will go
Speaker 1: to hell. If you saved five hell marries and five
Speaker 1: our fathers will be forgiven. But if not, you'll go
Speaker 1: to hell and you go burn and you'll be tortured. Oh.
Speaker 1: I thought he was a fair guy, that he would
Speaker 1: give me a break just for saying five prayers. He
Speaker 1: don't sounds that fair. He's gonna shut me down there
Speaker 1: to burn, beaten and tortured. And that don't sound like
Speaker 1: a pretty fair guy to me. Bro. So you're bullshitting
Speaker 1: about God. You're you're coming up with some stories that
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to scare me into that. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody has a different belief when you die.
Speaker 1: I even think the scientoics believe one thing. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: from the Black Church. I was raised a Southern Baptist Church,
Speaker 1: and they believe that you could die. If you're sucking
Speaker 1: up in life, you die, you go to hell, you
Speaker 1: go burn forever. And that used to always kind of
Speaker 1: bother me because she in the eye as of God.
Speaker 1: According to the Bible, I'm going according to the Bible.
Speaker 1: The Bible says that God looks at sin and sin.
Speaker 1: So whether I go out to murderer motherfucker, or I
Speaker 1: go out and steal a candy bar from the corner
Speaker 1: store and Eyes of God. It's the same thing. He's
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like man, so God has set
Speaker 1: somebody to burn for an eternity, man for stealing the
Speaker 1: candy bar. Yeah. I don't buy all that stuff. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean about religions. They go to
Speaker 1: an extreme that I don't buy. And they you know,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of religions, everything is about money.
Speaker 1: You want to get married, then you gotta pay for
Speaker 1: a marriage certificate. You want to get this, you gotta
Speaker 1: pay for that. You want to give contributions, you know.
Speaker 1: I it's a lot about money, and it's a lot
Speaker 1: of about what you shouldn't do. But I don't have
Speaker 1: those same rules. I could do it, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: you not to do it. I just don't buy those rules.
Speaker 1: So religion has you know. And when I was in prison,
Speaker 1: I joined the Indian Crew. I really joined it to
Speaker 1: smoke because they were passing the pipe around. It was
Speaker 1: no more smoking in the Federal and I wanted to smoke,
Speaker 1: and I got in. I got to respect their religion
Speaker 1: a little bit. I went with Wicker. I respected das
Speaker 1: I was born as a Catholic and understood a lot
Speaker 1: of things. One guy wanted me to be a Muslim
Speaker 1: joined them. Um, I said, uh, I like pork. I
Speaker 1: like some things. No intentions to give it that up,
Speaker 1: you know me? So whatever if I go to Helpful
Speaker 1: because I've eating pork, that's fine with me. You think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a guy up there because I believe
Speaker 1: in God, you know, I believe no offense nobody. I
Speaker 1: think everybody shouldn't have the freedom of choice to believe
Speaker 1: in whatever they want to believe in. But I don't know, so,
Speaker 1: sam you don't think it's gonna be You don't think
Speaker 1: God is gonna be sitting up there waiting exaction, And say,
Speaker 1: Sammy the Bull, I hope there is, because I believe
Speaker 1: there's God, and God is our creator and he made everything.
Speaker 1: He made lions, and he made lambs. I happen to
Speaker 1: be a lamb lion. I'm not a lamb. So I
Speaker 1: think he'll be cool with it. You made me. You
Speaker 1: could have stopped me at any point in your life,
Speaker 1: in my life, and and I think he would be
Speaker 1: fair and even. And I would think that the person
Speaker 1: who is, you know, preaching all this preaching stuff when
Speaker 1: he goes there and he's ahead of me. Bro I listen.
Speaker 1: At least I didn't lie like this guy was lying.
Speaker 1: He was yours in your name in vain. He was
Speaker 1: lying about you. So I think he's got a bigger
Speaker 1: problem than I got. I'm not a liar. I am
Speaker 1: what I am. I did what I did. I bet
Speaker 1: I was a lier. You made me. You could have
Speaker 1: stopped me. You should have stopped me. Maybe now now
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble with you because of what I did.
Speaker 1: You made me. And if you believe in God, you
Speaker 1: believe that he did. He's the Almighty, and he created life,
Speaker 1: and he could stop life. You're fair enough. So recently,
Speaker 1: you know, I was sitting at home, maybe a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I was watching this thing on Hulu
Speaker 1: and it was and a woman she compares you to
Speaker 1: a serial killer. Know, so I'm talking about him. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it, but it was showing ABC. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was something lies in the Last Gangsters and the
Speaker 1: Last Gangster When it was about me and they interviewed
Speaker 1: some woment she called me, you know, serial killer. First
Speaker 1: of all, she's some moron. She doesn't even know the
Speaker 1: death in issuing of a serial killer. The difference between
Speaker 1: a fight where somebody kills somebody, a gang, a serial killer,
Speaker 1: a mob guy. She has no conception of what she's
Speaker 1: even talking about. But there was people like that now
Speaker 1: around us in society saying all kinds of things. There
Speaker 1: you'll they'll they'll look at you, bro, you're a big,
Speaker 1: strong black guy, and Joe call you something uh a
Speaker 1: name because they've given you a label. Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: give somebody a label when they don't even know what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. You might be the nicest guy as
Speaker 1: far as I know. This isn't my first time with you.
Speaker 1: It's my second time. You and your friends and the guys,
Speaker 1: the other guys we were with that are not here
Speaker 1: today with you. But but I came here free will.
Speaker 1: I loved it. You treated me like a king, and
Speaker 1: you're a gentleman. I was joking with him before I
Speaker 1: was putting my my hand. There is Mount taking a
Speaker 1: picture joking, laughing. You're not evil just because you're black,
Speaker 1: I mean or something that. To me, you're not evil.
Speaker 1: So these people love giving labels. She's probably the biggest
Speaker 1: racist on two fucking feet. She she's a black man.
Speaker 1: She ships her fucking panties and she'll call you a name.
Speaker 1: The same thing with me. I was in the mafia,
Speaker 1: and I was a hit guy, and I never killed
Speaker 1: a kid, a woman, or a legitimate guy. I did
Speaker 1: what I did as a soldier in the mafia. I
Speaker 1: was also in the mirror in the army. During the
Speaker 1: Vietnam War, I was being trained by our government to
Speaker 1: go kill Vietnamese people. It was all bullshit. So then
Speaker 1: I was good. I was gonna kill people, and it
Speaker 1: was all bullshit. I never met a bad Vietnamese person
Speaker 1: in my life. So everything that we're telling you, the
Speaker 1: Communists are coming here, they're gonna rape your mother and
Speaker 1: your sister, that's all bullshit. It was all bullshit. I
Speaker 1: think America pretty much his intentions when they go to war.
Speaker 1: I think everything is about money. I think it's no
Speaker 1: different than what anybody else is doing. I think everything
Speaker 1: is about money. Everything comes down the money, power, run position,
Speaker 1: money power, greed. It's all about that all the time.
Speaker 1: Every time you I turn around as a mafio. So
Speaker 1: whatever goes on, and especially if it doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: I said, well there's money or a power move or greed,
Speaker 1: it's something there and if you look at it, it's
Speaker 1: always there. Always. You look at the whole conflict in
Speaker 1: the Middle East. I think that's behind money. You know
Speaker 1: people want oil. Yeah, yeah, it's always about money and
Speaker 1: greed and power. Look what they're doing now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know that the country is literally falling apart. You
Speaker 1: want to you want to leave. The board is wide
Speaker 1: open like this, fending all running around. Hundred thousand people
Speaker 1: are addicted, fifty thousand people died. I mean, where does
Speaker 1: that make any kind of sense? These politicians, the lawyers, doctors,
Speaker 1: college graduates, pH days, they know this is fucking so wrong,
Speaker 1: but they'll tell us, Oh, it's good, it's compassionate. Were
Speaker 1: being compassionate. Yeah, you know what, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of funked up stuff going on in the country now.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I've been all around the
Speaker 1: world and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I
Speaker 1: think America is a great country. I think we got
Speaker 1: a lot of ship we need to fix over here, though,
Speaker 1: Like I think the economy right now is about to
Speaker 1: go to ships. You can just tell like um. And
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to my wife the other day
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, our house is worth
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Not I don't live in the big
Speaker 1: six dollars craft foot house. I live in a condo
Speaker 1: and it's worth a million dollars now, you know. And
Speaker 1: I'm almost thinking about cash because I told my wife,
Speaker 1: I don't think that money is still be there. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be there six months from now.
Speaker 1: So if you think that we're gonna float on this,
Speaker 1: we better take it now. If if if we're going
Speaker 1: into a full blown depression, not a recession, but a depression,
Speaker 1: that a manon dollar home that you have, you'll be
Speaker 1: lucky if you get five six thousand for it, because
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna have it's nobody's gonna no no houses,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna everybody's gonna go bust with that. So we're
Speaker 1: living in a time. I agree with you, this is
Speaker 1: the best country on the planet. But I gotta add this.
Speaker 1: It was we were flying here, man, my girl here, um,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, go back two hundred fifty
Speaker 1: three h years ago. There's no there was no planes,
Speaker 1: there was no cause, there was no high rise buildings.
Speaker 1: Look at how far we came in two hundred three
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. Somewhere in that gap technology, all of
Speaker 1: these things. It's almost like I feel like we hit
Speaker 1: a peak and now we're going backwards. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: destroy this? Are we gonna get into a water? These
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs would take out I was sitting here, and
Speaker 1: and and twenty miles in every which direction for bomb. Here.
Speaker 1: One of those fucking bombs hit over here, We're all gone.
Speaker 1: The old neighborhood. The whole thing is flattened. Trees, houses,
Speaker 1: everything would be mush where that it's too much, it's
Speaker 1: and it's too dangerous, and it's men, women and children,
Speaker 1: and it's good people who did nothing. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: everything is kind of based on the hypocrisy, almost like
Speaker 1: I laughed at the California gun laws. If I want
Speaker 1: to go buy some bullets to day from my twelve gigs,
Speaker 1: I've got to show my d I gotta do all
Speaker 1: this other ship. It shouldn't be like that. It's my
Speaker 1: constitutional right. I don't have criminal record. I should be
Speaker 1: able to go by. If I go to Georgia, I
Speaker 1: can go in and work by forty five and walk
Speaker 1: out the same day as long as I have my
Speaker 1: driver's license. Here they're making it more difficult for the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that are legal to get firearms then in are
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's not like the crips and bloods
Speaker 1: and the street games. I'm gonna stop seeing crips and
Speaker 1: bloods because all of them ain't criminals. But that's a
Speaker 1: whole another story. But the guy that's living in the underworld,
Speaker 1: he's not going to the k Mark to go by
Speaker 1: twelve gates. He's going to go see his partner Wine.
Speaker 1: Wine is gonna opened up a blank You didn't go
Speaker 1: have all kinds of straff that he has for twin
Speaker 1: two some forty five. It's nine millimeters and twelve games.
Speaker 1: Say what do you want? He's gonna give him some
Speaker 1: cash and he's gonna walk out now showing the idea.
Speaker 1: Not he's just come to make a purgise for a weapon.
Speaker 1: But now they're making it harder for the civilians to
Speaker 1: kind of take care of themselves as they got all
Speaker 1: these fucking laws. When I think you should be able
Speaker 1: to walk around like the old West days, and it's
Speaker 1: like that in some countries. If you go to Texas,
Speaker 1: you see people walking around with the twelve games in
Speaker 1: the middle of Lake car sitting up in the stock
Speaker 1: of their car. They got pistols on the side. You
Speaker 1: know how much bullshit. How many robberies have in Arizona.
Speaker 1: Not too many, because you gotta think twice when you're
Speaker 1: gonna do a fucking robbery, you gotta say, the guy
Speaker 1: behind the counter, the guy at the pumping the gas,
Speaker 1: they all got guns. So you gotta be a little
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. You know all of these things. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the talking here about things as talking about, uh,
Speaker 1: they want us all to have electric cars. I just
Speaker 1: talked with some money recently about this. There's forty million
Speaker 1: people living in California, forty million, there's proximately about thirty
Speaker 1: million cars. A couple of days ago, you had a
Speaker 1: heat wave. They notices, get you lower your in condition
Speaker 1: to shut your lights, do this through that because the
Speaker 1: grid can't carry the electric having rolling blackouts. We were
Speaker 1: sitting down watching TV and electricity just cuts out. But
Speaker 1: think about this now. Governor Newsom says, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: all the cards electric, thirty million cars where they're gonna
Speaker 1: plug it into If you can't handle two days of heat,
Speaker 1: that all this blackouts and how it thing happens where
Speaker 1: you're gonna plug all these thirty million cars in Biggs.
Speaker 1: Once they go to plug them and they're rock just
Speaker 1: go calls Degree to really get it. You can't handle it.
Speaker 1: There's no way. So and then this guy, they wanted
Speaker 1: to get him out, and they did a revote and
Speaker 1: they overwhelmingly vote them in. Again, what's fun with your people? See?
Speaker 1: That's what you know what the whole thing about voting.
Speaker 1: That's another thing is I've changed my opinion about that.
Speaker 1: I has to always tell my friends they go out
Speaker 1: to vote, go out to vote. But then what I
Speaker 1: found out is that our vote doesn't really impact you.
Speaker 1: I know, and and and it's it's a lot of
Speaker 1: times it could possibly be rigged. I'm starting to believe
Speaker 1: that too. I don't know if it's true, but so
Speaker 1: if yeah, I mean, you take away that right that
Speaker 1: we have. You know, American was great for one reason
Speaker 1: we had. It's like we're doing now. You may disagree
Speaker 1: with me about what I'm saying. I may disagree with
Speaker 1: you a black man, a white man, we could argue
Speaker 1: and talk and disagree. That's America. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: You're almost to the point where you're taking that away.
Speaker 1: I vote don't mean anything. We can't even have a conversation.
Speaker 1: I disagree with you. He jumps up, She jumps up.
Speaker 1: This one jumps up, and it told me I got
Speaker 1: five six seven people against me. WHOA Okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: give up. I'll agree with you whatever you say, He'll
Speaker 1: agree with it. That's not America, that's not freedom. We're
Speaker 1: losing that. We're gradually losing it. Who's that black world
Speaker 1: that I like all the time? And canvas canvas own?
Speaker 1: I love her. I'll tell you the truth. I love her.
Speaker 1: I hear her talking to black people as a white
Speaker 1: or black woman talking a black people, and she's telling
Speaker 1: them right where it's at the truth and telling them
Speaker 1: what are we doing. We give our vote, we give
Speaker 1: our voice to certain people, and they're killing us. Why
Speaker 1: are we stuck in certain places? Let's use our head
Speaker 1: and think she I love the things she said. She's
Speaker 1: a smart woman. Yeah, you know what. I think she's
Speaker 1: very smart, and I think a lot of things that
Speaker 1: she says go over people's heads. I think people think
Speaker 1: too much in an emotional space right now. I think
Speaker 1: we've got people that are dealing with everything on an
Speaker 1: emotional level. Now and everything. I think it calls them
Speaker 1: not to really listen. I think people hear things, but
Speaker 1: they're not listening fully because a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: she says a spot on. I think so too. And
Speaker 1: I heard a guy who was talking. It was a
Speaker 1: black guy, he was and he told her, you're not black.
Speaker 1: I said, I said to myself, is this guy crazy?
Speaker 1: She's black? She's talking. Common said. Still, she's trying to
Speaker 1: get you to go in a different direction and change
Speaker 1: your life and get straight. And you want to say
Speaker 1: she's not black. But because she's not thinking like you,
Speaker 1: that there's that freedom thing again. You whether you agree
Speaker 1: with her or not, you gotta give hush. Hey, she's
Speaker 1: got a voice. You gotta realize what's going on. You
Speaker 1: gotta realize what's going on with a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are so indoctrinated and programmed into
Speaker 1: a certain way of thinking. They've been hearing this way,
Speaker 1: you know. Like it's like with religion. You know, I
Speaker 1: come from a religious family. We used to have to
Speaker 1: go to church every Sunday. And I swore, I said,
Speaker 1: when I get grown, I'm not going to church anymore
Speaker 1: unless I want to go because you know, in the
Speaker 1: Black Shirts. We're sitting there man, from eight o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning to like one o'clock in the afternoon. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm starving, I'm ready to go home. I've been you know,
Speaker 1: you have to stand up. If I wouldn't stand up,
Speaker 1: my mom slept in the back of the here. I
Speaker 1: had to stand up, you know, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: my knees are hurting, man, my feet hurt, and I'm
Speaker 1: wearing these hard and shoes. I want to go own,
Speaker 1: but we were forced to do that. So just amaic.
Speaker 1: You go through that for fifteen years, then you get married,
Speaker 1: you start kind of repeating the same cycle because you've
Speaker 1: been taught that's what's right. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are in dark needed into bullshit Nowaday, Oh, there's
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. We grow up in a society, our
Speaker 1: neighborhoods where we grow up. May me, you use me.
Speaker 1: I grow up in a neighborhood that was mafia controlled,
Speaker 1: So to me, those were my heroes. You got a
Speaker 1: guy in the Bronx or whatever he comes in the
Speaker 1: black neighborhood, the guy to drug dale, he's got money,
Speaker 1: a beautiful car or a beautiful girl around him. He's
Speaker 1: your hero as a kid you're growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: know the difference. I mean, tease your hero. So we're
Speaker 1: indocumented into our society, into what we see and what
Speaker 1: we learned, whether it's coming from our mother, our father,
Speaker 1: our priest, or whoever it's coming from. And schools, schools,
Speaker 1: I think is a nice a nightmare. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: And you can go in. You could be guy a guy.
Speaker 1: You you you were a very manly guy. You could
Speaker 1: say I'm a woman now, and we gotta respect that,
Speaker 1: all right, only because you're fucking nine ft tall. I'll
Speaker 1: respect that you a woman. But you wait a little bit,
Speaker 1: and the same thing, a woman could say she's a man.
Speaker 1: The best thing I heard I heard a conversation and
Speaker 1: and the guy who was thought I forgot his name,
Speaker 1: but he's talking about it, and he's saying, but I
Speaker 1: have to accept those things, right, Yes, you do? So
Speaker 1: he asked the woman. He said, I could ask you
Speaker 1: your age, because you really I could see you're not
Speaker 1: that old, so it's not offensive. How old are you?
Speaker 1: She's just I'm in my thirties, so okay, when you're
Speaker 1: in the sixties, could you turn around and say I'm
Speaker 1: twenty three. Oh no, no, I can't. Why if he
Speaker 1: could say he's a woman, and this woman could say
Speaker 1: she's a guy, why can't you say you're twenty three?
Speaker 1: But she couldn't even answer the question because it's that
Speaker 1: don't make sense, don't make sense, But I don't make
Speaker 1: sense the other ways too. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: them down, and that's not my my point. My point
Speaker 1: is certain things you're forcing on people that don't make sense,
Speaker 1: and you're what you're doing is fucking up all of society. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well everything is. We don't even know what to say anymore.
Speaker 1: Everything is real fun right now, you know. Going back
Speaker 1: to the MANFIA, I want to ask you one question
Speaker 1: to tell your MANFIA always deal with law enforcement, right
Speaker 1: like you guys had law enforcement on the payroll. You
Speaker 1: guys said sometime in the police department and everything like that.
Speaker 1: How much of that thing goes on the day. I
Speaker 1: don't think much of it goes on because what the
Speaker 1: law en force spend did, especially FBI and people they took,
Speaker 1: like let's say, i'll use New York. What they did.
Speaker 1: I know that long ago they took anybody who became
Speaker 1: an FBI agent and would come out of New York.
Speaker 1: He would go be a fucking FBI agent in North
Speaker 1: Carolina and South Carolina, not in New York. So, like,
Speaker 1: let's say me and him, we grew up in the
Speaker 1: same neighborhood. I'm becoming a mafia guy and he becomes
Speaker 1: a cop or FBI agent. Hey, Sam, how you doing?
Speaker 1: How you're doing too? We're friend we knew each other
Speaker 1: as kids. It's too tempting we might make a move
Speaker 1: or close our eyes to certain things. So what they're
Speaker 1: doing is they're putting him in South Carolina and they
Speaker 1: putting somebody from fucking Kentucky who's an agent on me.
Speaker 1: Now we don't know each other, we don't have anything
Speaker 1: in common with each other. So what they did is
Speaker 1: break all of that up. So it's really hard to
Speaker 1: have those kind of relationships. If I grew up with
Speaker 1: a guy all my life and he was a cop,
Speaker 1: and he might need even be a bad cop. I'll
Speaker 1: give you an example. I knew a cop. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a bad cop, was a regular cop, no take, no nothing.
Speaker 1: One day he was passed me said send me bro
Speaker 1: I'm in circles that your name just keeps popping up, Bro,
Speaker 1: what you're doing? Uh? Be careful? All right, bro? Thanks?
Speaker 1: So now I know my name is coming up in
Speaker 1: circles all over the place. But he just did that,
Speaker 1: not for money, not because he was a bad cop.
Speaker 1: Just we grew up together and he had a little
Speaker 1: sympathy to say, you know, chill more or less. He's
Speaker 1: not He's not asking for nothing. So they break that up.
Speaker 1: They broke that up as much as humanly possible. I
Speaker 1: think it's tough to bribe them today. Well, a lot
Speaker 1: of things I'm gonna tell you what I think definitely happens.
Speaker 1: I don't think they pay those guys enough. I don't
Speaker 1: think they pay school teachers enough. Um, you think about
Speaker 1: a police officer, he risked his life right there. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes cops right so, and he's always under the threat
Speaker 1: when he pulls a guy over because he has a
Speaker 1: broken tail light. Is this motherfucker on his third strike?
Speaker 1: Does he have a hammer in his black but to
Speaker 1: blow my brains out when I walk up to him
Speaker 1: by the window. So I think they go through a
Speaker 1: lot of ship and I think that's a lot to ask. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys, especially when you talk
Speaker 1: about DA agents. They praad the house and they go
Speaker 1: back there and there's ten million dollars back there, and
Speaker 1: that ship is all clumped up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: what's to stop them from taking a little bit of
Speaker 1: that money is stack and put in their pocket. Man.
Speaker 1: That has to be tempting. Yeah, it's tampting. And I
Speaker 1: think showing them actually do that, and what I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Cops are bad. I mean some are,
Speaker 1: but you can't take one cop. And I'll give you
Speaker 1: an example. The guy who put his knee on that
Speaker 1: guy's neck. He as soon as I saw that before
Speaker 1: the explosions happened right there, I said, this guy's dead.
Speaker 1: The guys choking, he's handcuffed. You're killing him publicly, so
Speaker 1: you're dead. And there was all kinds of riots over
Speaker 1: it and everything like that. It wasn't even necessary. But
Speaker 1: he's a bad cop. It's not all of them, it's
Speaker 1: not every single one of them. Um And and I
Speaker 1: look at it this way. You know we're doing it
Speaker 1: in you know, they want to replace cops with social workers, right,
Speaker 1: So I look at this, we're doing an interview. He's
Speaker 1: the sound guy, right, This kid sitting over there, and uh,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he kills over. He falls on
Speaker 1: the floors having a heart attack. Who am I gonna
Speaker 1: call a social worker? That ain't no fucking help for him.
Speaker 1: He wants a fucking cop. He wants he don't want.
Speaker 1: He don't give a fucking black white green. He wants
Speaker 1: a cop to come and help him. Or your mother,
Speaker 1: or your wife or your sister's they raped. They don't
Speaker 1: want a psychologists maybe three months later. They want somebody
Speaker 1: to get them the funk out of that situation now.
Speaker 1: And those people do it. So you got a bad cop,
Speaker 1: break his hold, and I give you one even better, Sammy.
Speaker 1: If I look outside, dude, if my mom says, I'm
Speaker 1: looking out the wonder and there's a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: with guns, I don't want no social worker walking up
Speaker 1: with no Manila folders and no pencils and ship. I
Speaker 1: want somebody to coming with guns. But some people, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, eliminate the threat. You know. You know, Sam,
Speaker 1: you seem to be a dude that's well versed. And
Speaker 1: every time I wanted to see what your thoughts were
Speaker 1: on something, you know, after raising ninety million dollars in
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, Black Lives Matter has forty two millions
Speaker 1: in assets. That was just two years ago. When you
Speaker 1: talk about us doing stuff for the community, we need
Speaker 1: to ask those questions, what the funk are you doing
Speaker 1: with the money? I know, I think I know what
Speaker 1: they do with the money. Kansas show, and I saw
Speaker 1: her going and somebody's house who's one of the leaders there,
Speaker 1: And she's living in a fucking lily white neighborhood and
Speaker 1: a fucking million dollar fucking home with fucking white bodyguards
Speaker 1: telling Kendi's own and you're threatening me. I left my
Speaker 1: head off because that's a joke. She's going out telling,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm bringing money for Black Lives Matter, you know,
Speaker 1: help the black people. They gave money all kinds of people,
Speaker 1: like you said, ninety million. Where the money go It
Speaker 1: went into her buying the house. Her brother is a
Speaker 1: fucking broken down lawyer who's she's paying him a million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's where that money went and went south,
Speaker 1: so to speak, you know what? And and I hope
Speaker 1: because a lot of people still behind that man, And
Speaker 1: I think we need to start doing a bitter job
Speaker 1: as a society and as a people, especially my people
Speaker 1: are actually researching stuff because we see something just because
Speaker 1: it's his Black Lives Matter? How who do we notice
Speaker 1: behind that? No, there's no you know. The best is
Speaker 1: listen to this one. We sent fifty or sixty billion
Speaker 1: dollars to Ukraine. Finally we sent a group down there
Speaker 1: who says, show us what you did with the money
Speaker 1: that we're spending. Thirty percent of the money, sixty billion
Speaker 1: dollars is accounted for the other money because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you this sevty billion, where'd it go? What do
Speaker 1: you mean it's thirty billion is accounting. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: where it wanted When to get the moss up the
Speaker 1: top out of that ship. They said we are here
Speaker 1: as soon as they got the sixty big and they
Speaker 1: said we're gonna And I hope it didn't happen that way, man.
Speaker 1: But the country has turned to a lot of bullshit.
Speaker 1: You can't say what you want to say no more. No,
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to everybody's on the tape, including Black Lives Matter,
Speaker 1: all of those people, the N double A, c P.
Speaker 1: Everybody else, because they don't do anything I have yet
Speaker 1: to see because you know what I never understood. I
Speaker 1: got a friend that works for the company unified school district.
Speaker 1: They have new laptops, new computers in this building, and
Speaker 1: he says, man, they won't let us take him out.
Speaker 1: Why do we buy all this ship to keep the
Speaker 1: sitting there? And the kids are using steph in the
Speaker 1: class from this years old? Nothing makes sense just behind.
Speaker 1: But they got a whole place full of new computers,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about all these computers have been stolen.
Speaker 1: Somebody's stolen computers. But maybe if they were in the
Speaker 1: classrooms where they're supposed to be, maybe not. And I
Speaker 1: just think everybody's gonna take man it is I think
Speaker 1: so too. I agree with that. It seems like everywhere
Speaker 1: you look, everything that don't make sense somebody's taken. Now.
Speaker 1: I would say, if that's the case, I would say,
Speaker 1: where did you buy these computers? What store? Maybe his
Speaker 1: uncle loans the store and he winds up buying three
Speaker 1: hundred computeries or five thousand computers and then making a
Speaker 1: ton of money. It becomes obvious she didn't me in
Speaker 1: the mafia. I look at everything like that, follow the money,
Speaker 1: following where it went, and and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you'll open up who Yeah, I said this too. These
Speaker 1: electric cars, all the politicians, I would like to see
Speaker 1: their investments. Are they investing in electric cars that they
Speaker 1: want us to all buy electric cars? I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe. So they've incentivized it because you could tell
Speaker 1: you get taxed to get Brian, you get tax breaks
Speaker 1: on that ship, you get all can't you save all
Speaker 1: kinds of money? So please believe somebody is getting a
Speaker 1: kick back. Man. I just think there's no question, you
Speaker 1: know what. I just think America as a whole is
Speaker 1: rand is governed under gates gangsterism. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: where it stops. I told somebody this morning, and I
Speaker 1: want to tell you, you're not an old man. Twenty
Speaker 1: years from now. Your grandkids going to come to you, Grandpa,
Speaker 1: where the funk were you twenty years ago? Are you
Speaker 1: allowed this to happen? That's what's gonna happen to us. Me.
Speaker 1: I won't be here twenty years from now, but there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people in their thirties and forties and
Speaker 1: twenty something years twenty years, they're gonna say, where the
Speaker 1: funk were you? How did you allow this to happen,
Speaker 1: you might be here, Sammy, you'd be ninety seven then, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you might. Man with technology, man, we just talked about technology.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some ship and this is gonna
Speaker 1: go way you left. I was looking at some stuff
Speaker 1: that the day online. They said that they're close to
Speaker 1: figuring out the way. I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 1: had it to where they can take your conscience you're conscious,
Speaker 1: you so, and put it in the computer so you
Speaker 1: can live forever. Yeah, live like in the computer simulation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in no computer, bro. When
Speaker 1: I get in bed, I don't want to want to
Speaker 1: bang shot and I don't I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a no box. Just just think about
Speaker 1: it though, because apparently, but if I have you heard
Speaker 1: about that, it won't be like you're in the computer, Sammy,
Speaker 1: would be just like you're here this room with us.
Speaker 1: You can they say they could. You can make this
Speaker 1: ship however you want to. If you want to go
Speaker 1: on there man and be the richest dude in there,
Speaker 1: you bet, you know, I guess you get to do
Speaker 1: your things. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a simulated reality. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not a life. You just just simulator.
Speaker 1: It's not you're not really a life. You mean your
Speaker 1: brain is still in life. Yeah, I guess your brain
Speaker 1: is still left. That's what they're talking about. Man, they're talking.
Speaker 1: They're I met. I'm better off going to Hell with
Speaker 1: its strip clubs and everything. Let me go where I
Speaker 1: gotta go, don't put me in no boxing. I think,
Speaker 1: like the song says Sammy, I think if it's a hell,
Speaker 1: I think we all going. I think you know if
Speaker 1: you if you look at what it says, I think
Speaker 1: we've all fault. I think every man and one of
Speaker 1: them is playing it has sinned in some form or another.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I think so too. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: a guy would tell me, and I believe that some
Speaker 1: guys don't treat on their wives and do talking and
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, son, I never did it. I said,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. When you welcome with
Speaker 1: your wife, and I believe you. If that's what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and you see this beautiful girl or two welcome by,
Speaker 1: do you ever turn it around check it out? I
Speaker 1: think every man does. And the thing so that ship
Speaker 1: you cheated on you're you're fantasizing with this other one
Speaker 1: is would be like see, I think when you're fantasized,
Speaker 1: and I think you can admire as long as you
Speaker 1: don't stare too long and as long as you're don'na
Speaker 1: start like thinking of uh, fantasized in your mind about it.
Speaker 1: I think that's the part when it gets bad because
Speaker 1: but I mean, when you see a beautiful girl, I
Speaker 1: mean you're not just admiring. Come on, bro, you see
Speaker 1: how you're thinking about this would be beautiful? You know
Speaker 1: what I can honestly say, Man, I don't see my wife. No,
Speaker 1: that's good, but I can admire other women about what
Speaker 1: you want to call it? My all, you want to
Speaker 1: call it fantasy, No, I don't think it's fantasized. I
Speaker 1: might look and say. Sometimes my wife may point out
Speaker 1: to me, she said, you know you want to look
Speaker 1: because sometimes you don't think all guys have the thing
Speaker 1: that where they better not look at her. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start some ship to day, so sometimes always look straight
Speaker 1: to hear that. My wife say, you know you want
Speaker 1: to look? Did you see that? You see that girl's ass? Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, but that's what
Speaker 1: she does. You didn't see her asks, you didn't see
Speaker 1: her tiss you know, I didn't see him. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. I plead the fifth on
Speaker 1: that ship because you're not gonna get me cut up.
Speaker 1: As soon as I agree with her, that's when an
Speaker 1: argument of the bulls's gonna starts. Oh no, man, you
Speaker 1: know what I think just like this because I can
Speaker 1: ask my wife the same question. She don't cheat on
Speaker 1: me either, She's on with me all the time. But
Speaker 1: if she sees Denizale Washington and Mark Warburg, one of
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's on TV, Oh girl, Oh you see that
Speaker 1: guy right there. He's a fine mother. You know, I
Speaker 1: think I think everybody is just as guilty. You don't
Speaker 1: think women if my if my she's my ex wife. Now,
Speaker 1: so if my ex wife was like, you know, looking
Speaker 1: at uh? Who who am I thinking of? Uh? Mark
Speaker 1: warmbarg of Brad Pitt? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: now you know I said, bro, if I was a woman,
Speaker 1: I banged him too, So I don't blame you. But
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it the other way. You look
Speaker 1: at some playboy money that you're gonna look at remember
Speaker 1: the girl that Trump uh supposed to We had a
Speaker 1: fair with her and he was denying it and coordinate.
Speaker 1: So somebody had asked me, well, what would you say?
Speaker 1: I would take her picture and I would put it there,
Speaker 1: and I tell my wife, bro, what you want me
Speaker 1: to do? You know? And that's the thing, though, what
Speaker 1: do they call that? The hard pass? I think that's
Speaker 1: why some people get hall passed. And there are people,
Speaker 1: you know, they are married people in the free ship
Speaker 1: right now. Man. You know you've got people the swingers
Speaker 1: and everything else, swingers and everything else. They're just invited.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that ship right there. Ain't no way
Speaker 1: I would ever invite somebody else to my bedroom. But
Speaker 1: even me, I'm not even you saying for nobody. Nobody's
Speaker 1: coming to my bed room with me himself, hand with
Speaker 1: all by myself. I got it. It's a big You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff going on right now, man,
Speaker 1: And um, I'll see you built your media empire. You've
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff going on. You know, people
Speaker 1: are starting to see a lot of big things, are
Speaker 1: going to see some even bigger things coming in the
Speaker 1: near future. Yeah, I'm excited for you, man, Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm working on the thing. They're
Speaker 1: talking about doing my scripted show, one of the hits
Speaker 1: I did. They're doing thinking about doing a movie with it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually in contract now, so I really can't talk
Speaker 1: about what it is, but I'm in contract with that now.
Speaker 1: They want to do a documentary about me and now
Speaker 1: and so we're doing some pretty good things now. I
Speaker 1: got I think five hundred and fifteen thousand subscribers. My
Speaker 1: subscribing thing is going up. My social media is going up.
Speaker 1: So I look at that and I'm enjoying it. You
Speaker 1: want to know the truth, I don't think I could
Speaker 1: have got a better thing to change my life and
Speaker 1: retire too than what I'm doing. I enjoy it. I'm
Speaker 1: having fun with it. I'm dealing with a lot of
Speaker 1: good people. I'm doing inter interviews with guys like you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even imagine we would probably be doing these things.
Speaker 1: But it's great. I'm dealing with great people. I love
Speaker 1: this stuff now, and it's I couldn't think of a
Speaker 1: better thing to retire. I don't want to sit on
Speaker 1: the porch on the rock and Champ seventy seven. But
Speaker 1: I'm still active. I try to keep myself in good shape.
Speaker 1: Um so, uh, this is a great time. Now, what
Speaker 1: do your keys think about? You know what we are.
Speaker 1: Your grand keys see about Grandpa being the media mogul.
Speaker 1: Now now they like it because they understand all that
Speaker 1: computer stuff and how to go. You know, they like it.
Speaker 1: My kids enjoy it. They think, you know, your heys
Speaker 1: having a good time with it. You know. I don't
Speaker 1: hurt nobody with it. I don't put people down for
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I talk the truth as much as
Speaker 1: I can, you know, about certain things, about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the economy, what's going on in different communities.
Speaker 1: I feel free to just say the truth. And who
Speaker 1: likes me, likes me, who don't like me, don't like me.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with all of that. Were you still standing though, Sam?
Speaker 1: You have the whole bunch of stuff. Man, that the
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. You know what. I'm wonder has
Speaker 1: anybody ever like when you went to Witness Protection and
Speaker 1: all that ship they had to be the boringes shit
Speaker 1: in the world. Uh it was I you know, they
Speaker 1: begged me to go. I didn't want to go. And
Speaker 1: what they said, Sammy, you you got five year cents
Speaker 1: with nineteen murders the first case, and they said, Uh,
Speaker 1: come on, you're gonna make us look horrible by not
Speaker 1: coming in. And I agreed with them, so I told him,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I'll do. I'll give you
Speaker 1: one year so you look good if that's what you
Speaker 1: want one one year. I wound up giving them eight months,
Speaker 1: and uh, and I walked away. It was boring. It
Speaker 1: was you know, I was in Boulder, Colorado, and I
Speaker 1: one thing. I have a people's person. I really am.
Speaker 1: I hated going to dinner in Boulder. Clive was the
Speaker 1: college town. Every table's got four or five six people laughing, tolking, drinking,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting at the table by myself like a drunk.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, do anybody ever recognize you? Uh?
Speaker 1: Not that until I wrote the book. Once I wrote
Speaker 1: the book, people were recognizing me all over the place.
Speaker 1: People were recognizing me now by just coming down on
Speaker 1: the airlines. Some guys stopped me in the airport and
Speaker 1: uh took a selfie with me and this and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are recognizing with me now. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: look like when I was younger. I got old, But
Speaker 1: now They're starting to recognize me because all the social
Speaker 1: media now, so even with all these other wrinkles and bullshit,
Speaker 1: they're recognizing me again. So and I get a kick
Speaker 1: out of it. I never say no to somebody wants
Speaker 1: to do a selfie, you know. I feel that they're
Speaker 1: asking for that, so I do it, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So we had a question that just came in. Are
Speaker 1: you and Michael Francis on better terms at the Media
Speaker 1: States of America, Manfia, States of America. Yes, yes we are.
Speaker 1: We talked, you know, uh, we agreed on a lot
Speaker 1: of things we might even do. We're talking about doing
Speaker 1: a show together, just me and him with no uh
Speaker 1: body uh monitoring the show or or mediat or whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna call it. It just being him. We might
Speaker 1: talk about doing the show, but we agreed. I'm a
Speaker 1: gangster straight out and he's a racketeer straight out. Now,
Speaker 1: Patrick asked me, what's the difference between a gangster and
Speaker 1: a racketeer. I said, the best way I could explain
Speaker 1: it is that a gangster is a tall, big, very
Speaker 1: muscular pippo and a racketeer is a beautiful poodle. So
Speaker 1: Michael Francie said, fuck, you know, but I get a lawyer.
Speaker 1: I joke with him and he jokes with me. I
Speaker 1: met his family, which made me like him more. It's
Speaker 1: got a beautiful family. It's a good father to his children. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's a good man all the way around. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's met my family. Uh. He's loves my son.
Speaker 1: My son likes him, really likes him a lot. So
Speaker 1: but that it's no hard feelings between me and him.
Speaker 1: And we might even do some things together. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about doing a show. And because
Speaker 1: I get a ton of questions like this, he's got
Speaker 1: a huge following as well, and and he gets the
Speaker 1: same questions. So we're talking we might do a show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I want to ask you, man, because
Speaker 1: like I said, and I got we went off into
Speaker 1: another tangent earlier. I was going to ask you this earlier.
Speaker 1: So I watched a lot of games of stuff and
Speaker 1: U I saw the thing on this hit man, the
Speaker 1: ice man. Yeah, what was the deal with that guy?
Speaker 1: He's a fucking flake, phony piece of ship. I had
Speaker 1: a case when him. He says that I had killed
Speaker 1: the cop with him a cold case the only three
Speaker 1: years probably and I got indicted on the case with him,
Speaker 1: and I'm doing the whole story about him now because
Speaker 1: he was a fucking flake. He was a liar, you know.
Speaker 1: The cops, the FBI came to me. He said, he
Speaker 1: killed two hundred people. He killed two or three people,
Speaker 1: and he killed him for petty ship hundred. He robbed
Speaker 1: the guy shot. He was a low life and a liar,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna eventually talk about him, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was offered a plea, plea out
Speaker 1: to this murder, this of a cop cold case, and
Speaker 1: I had said no, and they said, you know, well,
Speaker 1: you you're facing god of the life. If you play out,
Speaker 1: you'll play out to the same time you get with
Speaker 1: the government, which was twenty I got you. You won't
Speaker 1: do it. Day plea, take a place. We want to
Speaker 1: close the case. You could do what the funk you want.
Speaker 1: I'm not playing out to it. I don't never, I
Speaker 1: don't know the guy from a fucking hole in the wall. Um.
Speaker 1: And I went to trial. I went the whole route
Speaker 1: and never even got to trial. He got slaughter. He
Speaker 1: was caught in fifty thousand lives. He said he killed
Speaker 1: Roy the Mayo the FEDS ran right down. Oh who
Speaker 1: did that? He couldn't give even the slightest detail, so
Speaker 1: and that was fake. Then he admitted he was lying.
Speaker 1: Then he admitted he was lying about this, and then
Speaker 1: he was admitted he was like it was a fake
Speaker 1: and he says he can he says not a guy.
Speaker 1: He says he killed two hundred people. He tried to
Speaker 1: make himself bigger than he was two d people, that
Speaker 1: that would make him the biggest mass murder in the
Speaker 1: country or of all time, probably in the world, wouldn't.
Speaker 1: That's why he said two people, because he wanted the
Speaker 1: biggest title. It's a fucking asshole, a bad motherfucker people them,
Speaker 1: yeah people. Yeah, and he died. I'd be honest with
Speaker 1: try like to dig him up, bro phone times sake,
Speaker 1: and shoot his fucking sculpting right in the head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sammy wished your Instagram. On that note, Bill, we wish
Speaker 1: your Instagram Sammy Official, Sammy the boat You guys, make
Speaker 1: sure you and the fellow officials at me the bulls Sammy. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been great as always. Man. Appreciate you, brother, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. I love you, bro. I appreciate it anytime.
Speaker 1: You need me, you know where they got me. Give
Speaker 1: me a holler. Gang I'm mean man for sure, and
Speaker 1: we will be doing it again man, and we out
Speaker 1: of here all right. Bye bye, take care and all
Speaker 1: you people his fans. I love all of you guys.
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