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Speaker 1: know what you're getting into. If I decided to pledge

423
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: allegiance today to the crypt Or Bloods, I expect to

424
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: live a certain type of lifestyle that I expect to

425
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: have problems when I go certain places. I'm asking for that.

426
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: But for the person that's not asking for that ship,

427
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be involved in that show. Agree. I agree

428
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: a thousand percent shame thing with the mafia. I take

429
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: this show. I know I will kill or be killed

430
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: according to our rules, but there's no rules in the

431
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: mafia where I'm gonna kill innocent people. The whole mafia

432
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: will despise me because they'll know that what kind of

433
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: heat it brings us. It gives us a different it

434
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: gives you a deaferent, the public a different look at you,

435
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: and after many times, they have enough for you. But

436
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: what the politicians are doing confuses me because I just

437
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: don't get it, unless they just want these crimes to

438
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: continue for some reason. Whatever the reason is, I don't know,

439
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: and I don't understand it, But I don't understand why

440
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: the black community would vote that person in and vote

441
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: them in again and again and again. What the fuck

442
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: are you doing for them? You're the representative they voted

443
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: you in and you're allowing this. I'm talking to any everybody,

444
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: my my black brothers and sistance people I've done time with.

445
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Bro Get rid of them. Get rid of them. I

446
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: don't give a fun Democratic Republican or what he is.

447
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: Get rid of him because you're fighting for you, You're

448
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: fighting for your community. This guy's putting them in your community.

449
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: He's not putting them in mind, he's putting them in

450
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: your community. So if he can't even have the decency

451
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: to do that, I don't cave a funk, what color

452
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: he is, or what nationality is, or if it's a

453
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: man or a woman, get rid of him. He needs

454
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: to go with one of the people on that. They said,

455
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: if you threaten the public officials, So that means that

456
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: the mayyor Chicago pisses me off, I can kick him,

457
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: come out of his office, choke him out, pistol with

458
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: him a little bit, and I'm gonna be free until

459
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: I go to court the mayor. But that's what it says. Yeah, yeah,

460
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: but I mean I doubt that. I mean they say

461
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You know, Obama just said, you know,

462
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: letting the borders stay open, people coming in, it's cool.

463
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: They just dumped the whole bunch of people in Martha's

464
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: venue and he called the police and he called the

465
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: National Guard to get the people away from his fucking house. So,

466
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they say one thing, but they it's they

467
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: say one thing. It's good for them because those people

468
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: they're letting in, as long as them in front of

469
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: your houses, they there, it's a good thing. Let them

470
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: let them be there. But put those same people in

471
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: front of their houses. And they call him the cops,

472
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: they call them the military. Get the funk out of there. So, Sammy,

473
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: are you a religious guy at all? Do you have

474
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: any spiritual um or your spiritual at all? Very little?

475
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: That's what it is with religion. I believe in God

476
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: just like anybody else. I believe in God because who

477
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: made this whole thing? You look at the sky, it's beautiful.

478
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: Who could make that? But religions, uh, I find don't

479
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: live up to their own what they say. You know,

480
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: they don't what what's what you shouldn't do? But they

481
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: do the same thing. There's religions who say they were

482
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: against gay people and some of their priests. So I mean, like, like,

483
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: you know my religion and I was Catholic, go to

484
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: go to and confess and I would go there. Give

485
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: me tell me what you did wrong? No, fuck, you

486
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: tell me where you did wrong, bro, don't be telling me.

487
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: That's why I'll tell me what you did wrong, and

488
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did wrong. Yeah. And and religions,

489
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: it's all about money, a lot of it. So I'm

490
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: not that you know, you know, I hear these stories.

491
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: If you don't come true, Jesus Christ, you will go

492
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: to hell. If you saved five hell marries and five

493
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: our fathers will be forgiven. But if not, you'll go

494
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: to hell and you go burn and you'll be tortured. Oh.

495
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I thought he was a fair guy, that he would

496
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: give me a break just for saying five prayers. He

497
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: don't sounds that fair. He's gonna shut me down there

498
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: to burn, beaten and tortured. And that don't sound like

499
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: a pretty fair guy to me. Bro. So you're bullshitting

500
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: about God. You're you're coming up with some stories that

501
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to scare me into that. Yeah, well,

502
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody has a different belief when you die.

503
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: I even think the scientoics believe one thing. Um, I'm

504
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: from the Black Church. I was raised a Southern Baptist Church,

505
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: and they believe that you could die. If you're sucking

506
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: up in life, you die, you go to hell, you

507
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: go burn forever. And that used to always kind of

508
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: bother me because she in the eye as of God.

509
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: According to the Bible, I'm going according to the Bible.

510
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: The Bible says that God looks at sin and sin.

511
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: So whether I go out to murderer motherfucker, or I

512
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: go out and steal a candy bar from the corner

513
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: store and Eyes of God. It's the same thing. He's

514
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like man, so God has set

515
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: somebody to burn for an eternity, man for stealing the

516
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: candy bar. Yeah. I don't buy all that stuff. That's

517
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean about religions. They go to

518
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: an extreme that I don't buy. And they you know,

519
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of religions, everything is about money.

520
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: You want to get married, then you gotta pay for

521
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: a marriage certificate. You want to get this, you gotta

522
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: pay for that. You want to give contributions, you know.

523
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I it's a lot about money, and it's a lot

524
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: of about what you shouldn't do. But I don't have

525
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: those same rules. I could do it, but I'm telling

526
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: you not to do it. I just don't buy those rules.

527
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: So religion has you know. And when I was in prison,

528
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I joined the Indian Crew. I really joined it to

529
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: smoke because they were passing the pipe around. It was

530
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: no more smoking in the Federal and I wanted to smoke,

531
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: and I got in. I got to respect their religion

532
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. I went with Wicker. I respected das

533
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I was born as a Catholic and understood a lot

534
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: of things. One guy wanted me to be a Muslim

535
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: joined them. Um, I said, uh, I like pork. I

536
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: like some things. No intentions to give it that up,

537
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: you know me? So whatever if I go to Helpful

538
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: because I've eating pork, that's fine with me. You think

539
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a guy up there because I believe

540
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: in God, you know, I believe no offense nobody. I

541
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: think everybody shouldn't have the freedom of choice to believe

542
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: in whatever they want to believe in. But I don't know, so,

543
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: sam you don't think it's gonna be You don't think

544
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: God is gonna be sitting up there waiting exaction, And say,

545
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Sammy the Bull, I hope there is, because I believe

546
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: there's God, and God is our creator and he made everything.

547
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: He made lions, and he made lambs. I happen to

548
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: be a lamb lion. I'm not a lamb. So I

549
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: think he'll be cool with it. You made me. You

550
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: could have stopped me at any point in your life,

551
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: in my life, and and I think he would be

552
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: fair and even. And I would think that the person

553
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: who is, you know, preaching all this preaching stuff when

554
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: he goes there and he's ahead of me. Bro I listen.

555
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: At least I didn't lie like this guy was lying.

556
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: He was yours in your name in vain. He was

557
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: lying about you. So I think he's got a bigger

558
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: problem than I got. I'm not a liar. I am

559
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: what I am. I did what I did. I bet

560
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: I was a lier. You made me. You could have

561
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: stopped me. You should have stopped me. Maybe now now

562
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm in trouble with you because of what I did.

563
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: You made me. And if you believe in God, you

564
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: believe that he did. He's the Almighty, and he created life,

565
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: and he could stop life. You're fair enough. So recently,

566
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was sitting at home, maybe a few

567
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I was watching this thing on Hulu

568
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: and it was and a woman she compares you to

569
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: a serial killer. Know, so I'm talking about him. I

570
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: can't remember the name of it, but it was showing ABC. Yeah. Yeah,

571
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: it was something lies in the Last Gangsters and the

572
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Last Gangster When it was about me and they interviewed

573
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: some woment she called me, you know, serial killer. First

574
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: of all, she's some moron. She doesn't even know the

575
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: death in issuing of a serial killer. The difference between

576
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: a fight where somebody kills somebody, a gang, a serial killer,

577
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: a mob guy. She has no conception of what she's

578
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: even talking about. But there was people like that now

579
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: around us in society saying all kinds of things. There

580
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: you'll they'll they'll look at you, bro, you're a big,

581
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: strong black guy, and Joe call you something uh a

582
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: name because they've given you a label. Everybody wants to

583
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: give somebody a label when they don't even know what

584
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: they're talking about. You might be the nicest guy as

585
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: far as I know. This isn't my first time with you.

586
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: It's my second time. You and your friends and the guys,

587
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the other guys we were with that are not here

588
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: today with you. But but I came here free will.

589
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: I loved it. You treated me like a king, and

590
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: you're a gentleman. I was joking with him before I

591
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: was putting my my hand. There is Mount taking a

592
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: picture joking, laughing. You're not evil just because you're black,

593
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean or something that. To me, you're not evil.

594
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: So these people love giving labels. She's probably the biggest

595
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: racist on two fucking feet. She she's a black man.

596
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: She ships her fucking panties and she'll call you a name.

597
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: The same thing with me. I was in the mafia,

598
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: and I was a hit guy, and I never killed

599
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: a kid, a woman, or a legitimate guy. I did

600
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: what I did as a soldier in the mafia. I

601
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: was also in the mirror in the army. During the

602
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Vietnam War, I was being trained by our government to

603
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: go kill Vietnamese people. It was all bullshit. So then

604
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: I was good. I was gonna kill people, and it

605
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: was all bullshit. I never met a bad Vietnamese person

606
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: in my life. So everything that we're telling you, the

607
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Communists are coming here, they're gonna rape your mother and

608
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: your sister, that's all bullshit. It was all bullshit. I

609
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: think America pretty much his intentions when they go to war.

610
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: I think everything is about money. I think it's no

611
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: different than what anybody else is doing. I think everything

612
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: is about money. Everything comes down the money, power, run position,

613
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: money power, greed. It's all about that all the time.

614
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: Every time you I turn around as a mafio. So

615
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: whatever goes on, and especially if it doesn't make sense,

616
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I said, well there's money or a power move or greed,

617
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: it's something there and if you look at it, it's

618
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: always there. Always. You look at the whole conflict in

619
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: the Middle East. I think that's behind money. You know

620
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: people want oil. Yeah, yeah, it's always about money and

621
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: greed and power. Look what they're doing now. I mean,

622
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: you know that the country is literally falling apart. You

623
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: want to you want to leave. The board is wide

624
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: open like this, fending all running around. Hundred thousand people

625
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: are addicted, fifty thousand people died. I mean, where does

626
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: that make any kind of sense? These politicians, the lawyers, doctors,

627
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: college graduates, pH days, they know this is fucking so wrong,

628
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: but they'll tell us, Oh, it's good, it's compassionate. Were

629
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: being compassionate. Yeah, you know what, we got a lot

630
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: of funked up stuff going on in the country now.

631
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: But I will say this, I've been all around the

632
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: world and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I

633
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: think America is a great country. I think we got

634
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: a lot of ship we need to fix over here, though,

635
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: Like I think the economy right now is about to

636
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: go to ships. You can just tell like um. And

637
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I was actually talking to my wife the other day

638
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, our house is worth

639
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Not I don't live in the big

640
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: six dollars craft foot house. I live in a condo

641
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: and it's worth a million dollars now, you know. And

642
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm almost thinking about cash because I told my wife,

643
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that money is still be there. I

644
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be there six months from now.

645
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: So if you think that we're gonna float on this,

646
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: we better take it now. If if if we're going

647
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: into a full blown depression, not a recession, but a depression,

648
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: that a manon dollar home that you have, you'll be

649
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: lucky if you get five six thousand for it, because

650
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna have it's nobody's gonna no no houses,

651
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna everybody's gonna go bust with that. So we're

652
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: living in a time. I agree with you, this is

653
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: the best country on the planet. But I gotta add this.

654
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: It was we were flying here, man, my girl here, um,

655
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, go back two hundred fifty

656
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: three h years ago. There's no there was no planes,

657
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: there was no cause, there was no high rise buildings.

658
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: Look at how far we came in two hundred three

659
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. Somewhere in that gap technology, all of

660
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: these things. It's almost like I feel like we hit

661
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: a peak and now we're going backwards. Are we gonna

662
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: destroy this? Are we gonna get into a water? These

663
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs would take out I was sitting here, and

664
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: and and twenty miles in every which direction for bomb. Here.

665
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: One of those fucking bombs hit over here, We're all gone.

666
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: The old neighborhood. The whole thing is flattened. Trees, houses,

667
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: everything would be mush where that it's too much, it's

668
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: and it's too dangerous, and it's men, women and children,

669
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: and it's good people who did nothing. Well, you know,

670
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: everything is kind of based on the hypocrisy, almost like

671
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: I laughed at the California gun laws. If I want

672
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: to go buy some bullets to day from my twelve gigs,

673
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I've got to show my d I gotta do all

674
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: this other ship. It shouldn't be like that. It's my

675
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: constitutional right. I don't have criminal record. I should be

676
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: able to go by. If I go to Georgia, I

677
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: can go in and work by forty five and walk

678
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: out the same day as long as I have my

679
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: driver's license. Here they're making it more difficult for the

680
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that are legal to get firearms then in are

681
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's not like the crips and bloods

682
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: and the street games. I'm gonna stop seeing crips and

683
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: bloods because all of them ain't criminals. But that's a

684
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: whole another story. But the guy that's living in the underworld,

685
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: he's not going to the k Mark to go by

686
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: twelve gates. He's going to go see his partner Wine.

687
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Wine is gonna opened up a blank You didn't go

688
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: have all kinds of straff that he has for twin

689
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: two some forty five. It's nine millimeters and twelve games.

690
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: Say what do you want? He's gonna give him some

691
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: cash and he's gonna walk out now showing the idea.

692
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: Not he's just come to make a purgise for a weapon.

693
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: But now they're making it harder for the civilians to

694
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of take care of themselves as they got all

695
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: these fucking laws. When I think you should be able

696
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: to walk around like the old West days, and it's

697
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: like that in some countries. If you go to Texas,

698
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: you see people walking around with the twelve games in

699
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: the middle of Lake car sitting up in the stock

700
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: of their car. They got pistols on the side. You

701
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: know how much bullshit. How many robberies have in Arizona.

702
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: Not too many, because you gotta think twice when you're

703
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna do a fucking robbery, you gotta say, the guy

704
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: behind the counter, the guy at the pumping the gas,

705
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: they all got guns. So you gotta be a little

706
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. You know all of these things. I mean,

707
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: look at the talking here about things as talking about, uh,

708
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: they want us all to have electric cars. I just

709
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: talked with some money recently about this. There's forty million

710
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: people living in California, forty million, there's proximately about thirty

711
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: million cars. A couple of days ago, you had a

712
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: heat wave. They notices, get you lower your in condition

713
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: to shut your lights, do this through that because the

714
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: grid can't carry the electric having rolling blackouts. We were

715
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: sitting down watching TV and electricity just cuts out. But

716
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: think about this now. Governor Newsom says, I'm gonna make

717
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: all the cards electric, thirty million cars where they're gonna

718
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: plug it into If you can't handle two days of heat,

719
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: that all this blackouts and how it thing happens where

720
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna plug all these thirty million cars in Biggs.

721
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Once they go to plug them and they're rock just

722
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: go calls Degree to really get it. You can't handle it.

723
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: There's no way. So and then this guy, they wanted

724
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: to get him out, and they did a revote and

725
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: they overwhelmingly vote them in. Again, what's fun with your people? See?

726
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: That's what you know what the whole thing about voting.

727
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: That's another thing is I've changed my opinion about that.

728
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: I has to always tell my friends they go out

729
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: to vote, go out to vote. But then what I

730
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: found out is that our vote doesn't really impact you.

731
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: I know, and and and it's it's a lot of

732
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: times it could possibly be rigged. I'm starting to believe

733
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: that too. I don't know if it's true, but so

734
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: if yeah, I mean, you take away that right that

735
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: we have. You know, American was great for one reason

736
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: we had. It's like we're doing now. You may disagree

737
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: with me about what I'm saying. I may disagree with

738
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: you a black man, a white man, we could argue

739
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: and talk and disagree. That's America. That's a beautiful thing.

740
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: You're almost to the point where you're taking that away.

741
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: I vote don't mean anything. We can't even have a conversation.

742
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I disagree with you. He jumps up, She jumps up.

743
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: This one jumps up, and it told me I got

744
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: five six seven people against me. WHOA Okay, okay, I

745
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: give up. I'll agree with you whatever you say, He'll

746
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: agree with it. That's not America, that's not freedom. We're

747
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: losing that. We're gradually losing it. Who's that black world

748
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: that I like all the time? And canvas canvas own?

749
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I love her. I'll tell you the truth. I love her.

750
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: I hear her talking to black people as a white

751
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: or black woman talking a black people, and she's telling

752
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: them right where it's at the truth and telling them

753
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: what are we doing. We give our vote, we give

754
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: our voice to certain people, and they're killing us. Why

755
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: are we stuck in certain places? Let's use our head

756
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: and think she I love the things she said. She's

757
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: a smart woman. Yeah, you know what. I think she's

758
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: very smart, and I think a lot of things that

759
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: she says go over people's heads. I think people think

760
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: too much in an emotional space right now. I think

761
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: we've got people that are dealing with everything on an

762
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: emotional level. Now and everything. I think it calls them

763
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: not to really listen. I think people hear things, but

764
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: they're not listening fully because a lot of this stuff

765
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: she says a spot on. I think so too. And

766
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: I heard a guy who was talking. It was a

767
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: black guy, he was and he told her, you're not black.

768
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I said, I said to myself, is this guy crazy?

769
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: She's black? She's talking. Common said. Still, she's trying to

770
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: get you to go in a different direction and change

771
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: your life and get straight. And you want to say

772
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: she's not black. But because she's not thinking like you,

773
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: that there's that freedom thing again. You whether you agree

774
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: with her or not, you gotta give hush. Hey, she's

775
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: got a voice. You gotta realize what's going on. You

776
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: gotta realize what's going on with a lot of people don't.

777
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: A lot of people are so indoctrinated and programmed into

778
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: a certain way of thinking. They've been hearing this way,

779
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: you know. Like it's like with religion. You know, I

780
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: come from a religious family. We used to have to

781
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: go to church every Sunday. And I swore, I said,

782
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: when I get grown, I'm not going to church anymore

783
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: unless I want to go because you know, in the

784
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Black Shirts. We're sitting there man, from eight o'clock in

785
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: the morning to like one o'clock in the afternoon. It's like, man,

786
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm starving, I'm ready to go home. I've been you know,

787
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: you have to stand up. If I wouldn't stand up,

788
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: my mom slept in the back of the here. I

789
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: had to stand up, you know, and I was like, man,

790
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: my knees are hurting, man, my feet hurt, and I'm

791
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: wearing these hard and shoes. I want to go own,

792
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: but we were forced to do that. So just amaic.

793
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: You go through that for fifteen years, then you get married,

794
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: you start kind of repeating the same cycle because you've

795
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: been taught that's what's right. I think a lot of

796
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: people are in dark needed into bullshit Nowaday, Oh, there's

797
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. We grow up in a society, our

798
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: neighborhoods where we grow up. May me, you use me.

799
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: I grow up in a neighborhood that was mafia controlled,

800
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: So to me, those were my heroes. You got a

801
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: guy in the Bronx or whatever he comes in the

802
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: black neighborhood, the guy to drug dale, he's got money,

803
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: a beautiful car or a beautiful girl around him. He's

804
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: your hero as a kid you're growing up, you know,

805
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: know the difference. I mean, tease your hero. So we're

806
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: indocumented into our society, into what we see and what

807
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: we learned, whether it's coming from our mother, our father,

808
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: our priest, or whoever it's coming from. And schools, schools,

809
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: I think is a nice a nightmare. Oh yeah, for sure.

810
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: And you can go in. You could be guy a guy.

811
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: You you you were a very manly guy. You could

812
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: say I'm a woman now, and we gotta respect that,

813
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: all right, only because you're fucking nine ft tall. I'll

814
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: respect that you a woman. But you wait a little bit,

815
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: and the same thing, a woman could say she's a man.

816
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: The best thing I heard I heard a conversation and

817
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: and the guy who was thought I forgot his name,

818
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: but he's talking about it, and he's saying, but I

819
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: have to accept those things, right, Yes, you do? So

820
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: he asked the woman. He said, I could ask you

821
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: your age, because you really I could see you're not

822
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: that old, so it's not offensive. How old are you?

823
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: She's just I'm in my thirties, so okay, when you're

824
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: in the sixties, could you turn around and say I'm

825
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty three. Oh no, no, I can't. Why if he

826
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: could say he's a woman, and this woman could say

827
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: she's a guy, why can't you say you're twenty three?

828
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: But she couldn't even answer the question because it's that

829
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: don't make sense, don't make sense, But I don't make

830
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: sense the other ways too. I don't want to put

831
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: them down, and that's not my my point. My point

832
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: is certain things you're forcing on people that don't make sense,

833
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: and you're what you're doing is fucking up all of society. Yeah,

834
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: well everything is. We don't even know what to say anymore.

835
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: Everything is real fun right now, you know. Going back

836
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: to the MANFIA, I want to ask you one question

837
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: to tell your MANFIA always deal with law enforcement, right

838
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: like you guys had law enforcement on the payroll. You

839
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: guys said sometime in the police department and everything like that.

840
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: How much of that thing goes on the day. I

841
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: don't think much of it goes on because what the

842
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: law en force spend did, especially FBI and people they took,

843
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: like let's say, i'll use New York. What they did.

844
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: I know that long ago they took anybody who became

845
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: an FBI agent and would come out of New York.

846
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: He would go be a fucking FBI agent in North

847
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: Carolina and South Carolina, not in New York. So, like,

848
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: let's say me and him, we grew up in the

849
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: same neighborhood. I'm becoming a mafia guy and he becomes

850
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: a cop or FBI agent. Hey, Sam, how you doing?

851
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: How you're doing too? We're friend we knew each other

852
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: as kids. It's too tempting we might make a move

853
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: or close our eyes to certain things. So what they're

854
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: doing is they're putting him in South Carolina and they

855
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: putting somebody from fucking Kentucky who's an agent on me.

856
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Now we don't know each other, we don't have anything

857
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: in common with each other. So what they did is

858
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: break all of that up. So it's really hard to

859
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: have those kind of relationships. If I grew up with

860
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: a guy all my life and he was a cop,

861
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: and he might need even be a bad cop. I'll

862
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: give you an example. I knew a cop. He wasn't

863
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: a bad cop, was a regular cop, no take, no nothing.

864
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: One day he was passed me said send me bro

865
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm in circles that your name just keeps popping up, Bro,

866
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: what you're doing? Uh? Be careful? All right, bro? Thanks?

867
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: So now I know my name is coming up in

868
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: circles all over the place. But he just did that,

869
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: not for money, not because he was a bad cop.

870
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: Just we grew up together and he had a little

871
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: sympathy to say, you know, chill more or less. He's

872
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: not He's not asking for nothing. So they break that up.

873
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: They broke that up as much as humanly possible. I

874
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: think it's tough to bribe them today. Well, a lot

875
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: of things I'm gonna tell you what I think definitely happens.

876
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they pay those guys enough. I don't

877
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: think they pay school teachers enough. Um, you think about

878
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: a police officer, he risked his life right there. Nobody

879
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: likes cops right so, and he's always under the threat

880
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: when he pulls a guy over because he has a

881
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: broken tail light. Is this motherfucker on his third strike?

882
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Does he have a hammer in his black but to

883
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: blow my brains out when I walk up to him

884
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: by the window. So I think they go through a

885
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: lot of ship and I think that's a lot to ask. Man.

886
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys, especially when you talk

887
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: about DA agents. They praad the house and they go

888
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: back there and there's ten million dollars back there, and

889
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: that ship is all clumped up, you know what I mean,

890
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: what's to stop them from taking a little bit of

891
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: that money is stack and put in their pocket. Man.

892
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: That has to be tempting. Yeah, it's tampting. And I

893
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: think showing them actually do that, and what I mean,

894
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Cops are bad. I mean some are,

895
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: but you can't take one cop. And I'll give you

896
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: an example. The guy who put his knee on that

897
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: guy's neck. He as soon as I saw that before

898
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: the explosions happened right there, I said, this guy's dead.

899
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: The guys choking, he's handcuffed. You're killing him publicly, so

900
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: you're dead. And there was all kinds of riots over

901
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: it and everything like that. It wasn't even necessary. But

902
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: he's a bad cop. It's not all of them, it's

903
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: not every single one of them. Um And and I

904
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: look at it this way. You know we're doing it

905
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: in you know, they want to replace cops with social workers, right,

906
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 1: So I look at this, we're doing an interview. He's

907
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: the sound guy, right, This kid sitting over there, and uh,

908
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he kills over. He falls on

909
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: the floors having a heart attack. Who am I gonna

910
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: call a social worker? That ain't no fucking help for him.

911
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: He wants a fucking cop. He wants he don't want.

912
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: He don't give a fucking black white green. He wants

913
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: a cop to come and help him. Or your mother,

914
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: or your wife or your sister's they raped. They don't

915
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: want a psychologists maybe three months later. They want somebody

916
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: to get them the funk out of that situation now.

917
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: And those people do it. So you got a bad cop,

918
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: break his hold, and I give you one even better, Sammy.

919
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: If I look outside, dude, if my mom says, I'm

920
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: looking out the wonder and there's a bunch of guys

921
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: with guns, I don't want no social worker walking up

922
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: with no Manila folders and no pencils and ship. I

923
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: want somebody to coming with guns. But some people, you

924
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, eliminate the threat. You know. You know, Sam,

925
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: you seem to be a dude that's well versed. And

926
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: every time I wanted to see what your thoughts were

927
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: on something, you know, after raising ninety million dollars in

928
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, Black Lives Matter has forty two millions

929
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: in assets. That was just two years ago. When you

930
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: talk about us doing stuff for the community, we need

931
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: to ask those questions, what the funk are you doing

932
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: with the money? I know, I think I know what

933
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: they do with the money. Kansas show, and I saw

934
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: her going and somebody's house who's one of the leaders there,

935
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: And she's living in a fucking lily white neighborhood and

936
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: a fucking million dollar fucking home with fucking white bodyguards

937
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: telling Kendi's own and you're threatening me. I left my

938
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: head off because that's a joke. She's going out telling,

939
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm bringing money for Black Lives Matter, you know,

940
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: help the black people. They gave money all kinds of people,

941
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: like you said, ninety million. Where the money go It

942
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: went into her buying the house. Her brother is a

943
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: fucking broken down lawyer who's she's paying him a million

944
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: dollars a year. That's where that money went and went south,

945
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: so to speak, you know what? And and I hope

946
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of people still behind that man, And

947
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: I think we need to start doing a bitter job

948
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: as a society and as a people, especially my people

949
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: are actually researching stuff because we see something just because

950
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: it's his Black Lives Matter? How who do we notice

951
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: behind that? No, there's no you know. The best is

952
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: listen to this one. We sent fifty or sixty billion

953
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: dollars to Ukraine. Finally we sent a group down there

954
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: who says, show us what you did with the money

955
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: that we're spending. Thirty percent of the money, sixty billion

956
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: dollars is accounted for the other money because I'm gonna

957
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: tell you this sevty billion, where'd it go? What do

958
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: you mean it's thirty billion is accounting. I'll tell you

959
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: where it wanted When to get the moss up the

960
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: top out of that ship. They said we are here

961
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: as soon as they got the sixty big and they

962
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: said we're gonna And I hope it didn't happen that way, man.

963
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: But the country has turned to a lot of bullshit.

964
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: You can't say what you want to say no more. No,

965
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to everybody's on the tape, including Black Lives Matter,

966
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: all of those people, the N double A, c P.

967
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: Everybody else, because they don't do anything I have yet

968
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: to see because you know what I never understood. I

969
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: got a friend that works for the company unified school district.

970
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: They have new laptops, new computers in this building, and

971
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: he says, man, they won't let us take him out.

972
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: Why do we buy all this ship to keep the

973
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: sitting there? And the kids are using steph in the

974
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,959
Speaker 1: class from this years old? Nothing makes sense just behind.

975
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: But they got a whole place full of new computers,

976
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: and they were talking about all these computers have been stolen.

977
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Somebody's stolen computers. But maybe if they were in the

978
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: classrooms where they're supposed to be, maybe not. And I

979
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: just think everybody's gonna take man it is I think

980
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: so too. I agree with that. It seems like everywhere

981
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: you look, everything that don't make sense somebody's taken. Now.

982
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I would say, if that's the case, I would say,

983
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: where did you buy these computers? What store? Maybe his

984
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: uncle loans the store and he winds up buying three

985
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: hundred computeries or five thousand computers and then making a

986
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: ton of money. It becomes obvious she didn't me in

987
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: the mafia. I look at everything like that, follow the money,

988
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: following where it went, and and all of a sudden,

989
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: you'll open up who Yeah, I said this too. These

990
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: electric cars, all the politicians, I would like to see

991
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: their investments. Are they investing in electric cars that they

992
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: want us to all buy electric cars? I believe, Yeah,

993
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: I believe. So they've incentivized it because you could tell

994
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: you get taxed to get Brian, you get tax breaks

995
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: on that ship, you get all can't you save all

996
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: kinds of money? So please believe somebody is getting a

997
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: kick back. Man. I just think there's no question, you

998
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: know what. I just think America as a whole is

999
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: rand is governed under gates gangsterism. Yeah, I don't know

1000
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: where it stops. I told somebody this morning, and I

1001
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: want to tell you, you're not an old man. Twenty

1002
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: years from now. Your grandkids going to come to you, Grandpa,

1003
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: where the funk were you twenty years ago? Are you

1004
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: allowed this to happen? That's what's gonna happen to us. Me.

1005
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: I won't be here twenty years from now, but there's

1006
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people in their thirties and forties and

1007
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty something years twenty years, they're gonna say, where the

1008
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: funk were you? How did you allow this to happen,

1009
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: you might be here, Sammy, you'd be ninety seven then, right, yeah,

1010
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: you might. Man with technology, man, we just talked about technology.

1011
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you some ship and this is gonna

1012
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: go way you left. I was looking at some stuff

1013
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: that the day online. They said that they're close to

1014
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: figuring out the way. I wouldn't be surprised if they

1015
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: had it to where they can take your conscience you're conscious,

1016
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: you so, and put it in the computer so you

1017
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: can live forever. Yeah, live like in the computer simulation. Yeah.

1018
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in no computer, bro. When

1019
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: I get in bed, I don't want to want to

1020
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: bang shot and I don't I don't know. I don't

1021
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: want to be a no box. Just just think about

1022
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: it though, because apparently, but if I have you heard

1023
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: about that, it won't be like you're in the computer, Sammy,

1024
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: would be just like you're here this room with us.

1025
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: You can they say they could. You can make this

1026
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: ship however you want to. If you want to go

1027
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: on there man and be the richest dude in there,

1028
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: you bet, you know, I guess you get to do

1029
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: your things. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a simulated reality. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1030
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're not a life. You just just simulator.

1031
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: It's not you're not really a life. You mean your

1032
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: brain is still in life. Yeah, I guess your brain

1033
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: is still left. That's what they're talking about. Man, they're talking.

1034
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: They're I met. I'm better off going to Hell with

1035
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: its strip clubs and everything. Let me go where I

1036
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: gotta go, don't put me in no boxing. I think,

1037
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: like the song says Sammy, I think if it's a hell,

1038
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: I think we all going. I think you know if

1039
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: you if you look at what it says, I think

1040
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: we've all fault. I think every man and one of

1041
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: them is playing it has sinned in some form or another.

1042
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I think so too. I mean, you know,

1043
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: a guy would tell me, and I believe that some

1044
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: guys don't treat on their wives and do talking and

1045
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, son, I never did it. I said,

1046
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. When you welcome with

1047
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: your wife, and I believe you. If that's what you're saying,

1048
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: and you see this beautiful girl or two welcome by,

1049
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: do you ever turn it around check it out? I

1050
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: think every man does. And the thing so that ship

1051
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: you cheated on you're you're fantasizing with this other one

1052
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: is would be like see, I think when you're fantasized,

1053
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: and I think you can admire as long as you

1054
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: don't stare too long and as long as you're don'na

1055
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: start like thinking of uh, fantasized in your mind about it.

1056
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: I think that's the part when it gets bad because

1057
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: but I mean, when you see a beautiful girl, I

1058
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: mean you're not just admiring. Come on, bro, you see

1059
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: how you're thinking about this would be beautiful? You know

1060
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: what I can honestly say, Man, I don't see my wife. No,

1061
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: that's good, but I can admire other women about what

1062
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: you want to call it? My all, you want to

1063
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: call it fantasy, No, I don't think it's fantasized. I

1064
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: might look and say. Sometimes my wife may point out

1065
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: to me, she said, you know you want to look

1066
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: because sometimes you don't think all guys have the thing

1067
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: that where they better not look at her. I'm gonna

1068
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: start some ship to day, so sometimes always look straight

1069
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: to hear that. My wife say, you know you want

1070
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: to look? Did you see that? You see that girl's ass? Like,

1071
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, but that's what

1072
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: she does. You didn't see her asks, you didn't see

1073
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: her tiss you know, I didn't see him. I don't

1074
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. I plead the fifth on

1075
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: that ship because you're not gonna get me cut up.

1076
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: As soon as I agree with her, that's when an

1077
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: argument of the bulls's gonna starts. Oh no, man, you

1078
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: know what I think just like this because I can

1079
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: ask my wife the same question. She don't cheat on

1080
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: me either, She's on with me all the time. But

1081
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: if she sees Denizale Washington and Mark Warburg, one of

1082
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's on TV, Oh girl, Oh you see that

1083
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: guy right there. He's a fine mother. You know, I

1084
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: think I think everybody is just as guilty. You don't

1085
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: think women if my if my she's my ex wife. Now,

1086
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: so if my ex wife was like, you know, looking

1087
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: at uh? Who who am I thinking of? Uh? Mark

1088
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: warmbarg of Brad Pitt? You know what I mean? And

1089
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: now you know I said, bro, if I was a woman,

1090
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: I banged him too, So I don't blame you. But

1091
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it the other way. You look

1092
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: at some playboy money that you're gonna look at remember

1093
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: the girl that Trump uh supposed to We had a

1094
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: fair with her and he was denying it and coordinate.

1095
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: So somebody had asked me, well, what would you say?

1096
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: I would take her picture and I would put it there,

1097
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: and I tell my wife, bro, what you want me

1098
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: to do? You know? And that's the thing, though, what

1099
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: do they call that? The hard pass? I think that's

1100
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: why some people get hall passed. And there are people,

1101
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: you know, they are married people in the free ship

1102
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: right now. Man. You know you've got people the swingers

1103
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: and everything else, swingers and everything else. They're just invited.

1104
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that ship right there. Ain't no way

1105
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: I would ever invite somebody else to my bedroom. But

1106
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: even me, I'm not even you saying for nobody. Nobody's

1107
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: coming to my bed room with me himself, hand with

1108
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: all by myself. I got it. It's a big You've

1109
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff going on right now, man,

1110
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: And um, I'll see you built your media empire. You've

1111
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff going on. You know, people

1112
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: are starting to see a lot of big things, are

1113
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: going to see some even bigger things coming in the

1114
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: near future. Yeah, I'm excited for you, man, Yeah, thank you,

1115
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm working on the thing. They're

1116
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: talking about doing my scripted show, one of the hits

1117
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: I did. They're doing thinking about doing a movie with it.

1118
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually in contract now, so I really can't talk

1119
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: about what it is, but I'm in contract with that now.

1120
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: They want to do a documentary about me and now

1121
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: and so we're doing some pretty good things now. I

1122
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: got I think five hundred and fifteen thousand subscribers. My

1123
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: subscribing thing is going up. My social media is going up.

1124
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: So I look at that and I'm enjoying it. You

1125
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: want to know the truth, I don't think I could

1126
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: have got a better thing to change my life and

1127
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: retire too than what I'm doing. I enjoy it. I'm

1128
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: having fun with it. I'm dealing with a lot of

1129
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: good people. I'm doing inter interviews with guys like you.

1130
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even imagine we would probably be doing these things.

1131
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: But it's great. I'm dealing with great people. I love

1132
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: this stuff now, and it's I couldn't think of a

1133
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: better thing to retire. I don't want to sit on

1134
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: the porch on the rock and Champ seventy seven. But

1135
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm still active. I try to keep myself in good shape.

1136
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Um so, uh, this is a great time. Now, what

1137
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: do your keys think about? You know what we are.

1138
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: Your grand keys see about Grandpa being the media mogul.

1139
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: Now now they like it because they understand all that

1140
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: computer stuff and how to go. You know, they like it.

1141
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: My kids enjoy it. They think, you know, your heys

1142
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: having a good time with it. You know. I don't

1143
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: hurt nobody with it. I don't put people down for

1144
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I talk the truth as much as

1145
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: I can, you know, about certain things, about what's going

1146
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: on in the economy, what's going on in different communities.

1147
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: I feel free to just say the truth. And who

1148
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: likes me, likes me, who don't like me, don't like me.

1149
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm cool with all of that. Were you still standing though, Sam?

1150
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: You have the whole bunch of stuff. Man, that the

1151
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. You know what. I'm wonder has

1152
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: anybody ever like when you went to Witness Protection and

1153
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: all that ship they had to be the boringes shit

1154
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: in the world. Uh it was I you know, they

1155
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: begged me to go. I didn't want to go. And

1156
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: what they said, Sammy, you you got five year cents

1157
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: with nineteen murders the first case, and they said, Uh,

1158
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: come on, you're gonna make us look horrible by not

1159
01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: coming in. And I agreed with them, so I told him,

1160
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: I said, you know what I'll do. I'll give you

1161
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: one year so you look good if that's what you

1162
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: want one one year. I wound up giving them eight months,

1163
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: and uh, and I walked away. It was boring. It

1164
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: was you know, I was in Boulder, Colorado, and I

1165
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: one thing. I have a people's person. I really am.

1166
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: I hated going to dinner in Boulder. Clive was the

1167
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: college town. Every table's got four or five six people laughing, tolking, drinking,

1168
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting at the table by myself like a drunk.

1169
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, do anybody ever recognize you? Uh?

1170
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: Not that until I wrote the book. Once I wrote

1171
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: the book, people were recognizing me all over the place.

1172
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: People were recognizing me now by just coming down on

1173
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: the airlines. Some guys stopped me in the airport and

1174
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: uh took a selfie with me and this and that. Yeah,

1175
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: people are recognizing with me now. I mean I don't

1176
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: look like when I was younger. I got old, But

1177
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: now They're starting to recognize me because all the social

1178
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: media now, so even with all these other wrinkles and bullshit,

1179
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: they're recognizing me again. So and I get a kick

1180
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: out of it. I never say no to somebody wants

1181
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: to do a selfie, you know. I feel that they're

1182
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: asking for that, so I do it, that's for sure.

1183
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: So we had a question that just came in. Are

1184
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: you and Michael Francis on better terms at the Media

1185
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: States of America, Manfia, States of America. Yes, yes we are.

1186
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: We talked, you know, uh, we agreed on a lot

1187
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: of things we might even do. We're talking about doing

1188
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: a show together, just me and him with no uh

1189
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: body uh monitoring the show or or mediat or whatever

1190
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: you wanna call it. It just being him. We might

1191
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: talk about doing the show, but we agreed. I'm a

1192
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: gangster straight out and he's a racketeer straight out. Now,

1193
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: Patrick asked me, what's the difference between a gangster and

1194
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: a racketeer. I said, the best way I could explain

1195
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: it is that a gangster is a tall, big, very

1196
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: muscular pippo and a racketeer is a beautiful poodle. So

1197
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: Michael Francie said, fuck, you know, but I get a lawyer.

1198
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I joke with him and he jokes with me. I

1199
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: met his family, which made me like him more. It's

1200
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: got a beautiful family. It's a good father to his children. Uh.

1201
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: And he's a good man all the way around. Uh.

1202
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: And he's met my family. Uh. He's loves my son.

1203
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: My son likes him, really likes him a lot. So

1204
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: but that it's no hard feelings between me and him.

1205
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 1: And we might even do some things together. Like I said,

1206
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: we're about to talk about doing a show. And because

1207
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: I get a ton of questions like this, he's got

1208
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: a huge following as well, and and he gets the

1209
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: same questions. So we're talking we might do a show. Yeah,

1210
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: you know what I want to ask you, man, because

1211
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: like I said, and I got we went off into

1212
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: another tangent earlier. I was going to ask you this earlier.

1213
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: So I watched a lot of games of stuff and

1214
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: U I saw the thing on this hit man, the

1215
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: ice man. Yeah, what was the deal with that guy?

1216
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: He's a fucking flake, phony piece of ship. I had

1217
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: a case when him. He says that I had killed

1218
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: the cop with him a cold case the only three

1219
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: years probably and I got indicted on the case with him,

1220
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: and I'm doing the whole story about him now because

1221
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: he was a fucking flake. He was a liar, you know.

1222
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: The cops, the FBI came to me. He said, he

1223
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: killed two hundred people. He killed two or three people,

1224
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: and he killed him for petty ship hundred. He robbed

1225
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: the guy shot. He was a low life and a liar,

1226
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna eventually talk about him, and uh,

1227
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: you know. And I was offered a plea, plea out

1228
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: to this murder, this of a cop cold case, and

1229
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: I had said no, and they said, you know, well,

1230
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: you you're facing god of the life. If you play out,

1231
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: you'll play out to the same time you get with

1232
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: the government, which was twenty I got you. You won't

1233
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: do it. Day plea, take a place. We want to

1234
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: close the case. You could do what the funk you want.

1235
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm not playing out to it. I don't never, I

1236
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: don't know the guy from a fucking hole in the wall. Um.

1237
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: And I went to trial. I went the whole route

1238
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: and never even got to trial. He got slaughter. He

1239
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: was caught in fifty thousand lives. He said he killed

1240
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: Roy the Mayo the FEDS ran right down. Oh who

1241
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: did that? He couldn't give even the slightest detail, so

1242
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: and that was fake. Then he admitted he was lying.

1243
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: Then he admitted he was lying about this, and then

1244
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: he was admitted he was like it was a fake

1245
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: and he says he can he says not a guy.

1246
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: He says he killed two hundred people. He tried to

1247
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: make himself bigger than he was two d people, that

1248
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: that would make him the biggest mass murder in the

1249
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: country or of all time, probably in the world, wouldn't.

1250
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: That's why he said two people, because he wanted the

1251
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: biggest title. It's a fucking asshole, a bad motherfucker people them,

1252
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: yeah people. Yeah, and he died. I'd be honest with

1253
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: try like to dig him up, bro phone times sake,

1254
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: and shoot his fucking sculpting right in the head. Yeah.

1255
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: Sammy wished your Instagram. On that note, Bill, we wish

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Speaker 1: your Instagram Sammy Official, Sammy the boat You guys, make

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Speaker 1: sure you and the fellow officials at me the bulls Sammy. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's been great as always. Man. Appreciate you, brother, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I love you, bro. I appreciate it anytime.

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Speaker 1: You need me, you know where they got me. Give

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Speaker 1: me a holler. Gang I'm mean man for sure, and

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Speaker 1: we will be doing it again man, and we out

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Speaker 1: of here all right. Bye bye, take care and all

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Speaker 1: you people his fans. I love all of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Took well. That concludes another episode of the Gainster Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to download the I Heart Appen subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Michael the front screening your phone. Subscribe to the show,

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Speaker 1: leave for comment and a rating. Executive producers for The

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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles of Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M.

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Speaker 1: C taylor. Our visual media directors Brian Watt. Shows audio

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Speaker 1: editor is Taylor Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles. Here's a production

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Speaker 1: of the Black Effect Podcast Network and Our Heart Media.

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Speaker 1: Any questions to comments hit us up The Gangster Chronicles

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Speaker 1: podcasts at gmail dot com. Peace be safe out there.