WEBVTT - 1 | Give Me Your F**kin Money

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago, Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Exciting. This is a nineteen seventies era Board of Tourism

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<v Speaker 2>advertisement for the city of Chicago. Fine. It's overflowing with

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<v Speaker 2>sunlit city scapes and joyful, smiling faces of young people,

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<v Speaker 2>families and tourists, all locked in a state of perpetual

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<v Speaker 2>eight millimeter textured happiness and wonder of this city of

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<v Speaker 2>broad shoulders, this great city by the lake. Look north

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<v Speaker 2>now that glittering shopper is Paradise, proudly dubbed the Magnificent Mile.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does look like a wonderful place to live.

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<v Speaker 2>A place with endless possibilities, or anybody, no matter who

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<v Speaker 2>you are or where you came from, can get a

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<v Speaker 2>fair shot at the brass ring.

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<v Speaker 3>Shot.

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<v Speaker 2>There is something you've just got to see for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But only a few miles from the bright lights of

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan Avenue, there's a different stretch of road, the dark

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<v Speaker 2>corner of the windy City you won't see in any

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<v Speaker 2>board of tourism commercial. It's a place where the cops

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<v Speaker 2>are just as crooked as the criminals, where drugs and

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<v Speaker 2>prostitution run rampant, and where a young mafia hit man

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<v Speaker 2>they call that kid, is parked outside of a dark,

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<v Speaker 2>dilapidated apartment building, waiting for just the right moment to

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<v Speaker 2>make his next move.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about nine pm at night. I'm in an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>complex in a neighborhood that I really don't know very well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm listening to my song, the songs that I

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<v Speaker 1>always play before I do something sketchy like this, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's sympthy for the double deesus.

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<v Speaker 5>Needs introduce myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a mad It.

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<v Speaker 1>Just does something to me. I don't know what it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just part of my routine. I sit in my

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<v Speaker 1>car and I do what I always do. I breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>I make myself aware. I heighten my senses, my sight,

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<v Speaker 1>my smell, my hearing. I don't know how I do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do it. As I'm listening to the music,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel my senses start to kick in. As they

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<v Speaker 1>kick in, the moment arises. The moment always hits me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it hits me, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm ready for the moment. Out of my car,

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<v Speaker 1>walk up to the apartment complex, ring the buzzer. This

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<v Speaker 1>asshole comes to the buzzer, announces his name. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Ken. I'm coming up for the coke. It says, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>come on up. Buzzer hits. I walk up the stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I reach my right hand behind my belt on my back,

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<v Speaker 1>knock on the door with my left hand. As the

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<v Speaker 1>door opens up, I pulled my arm out with my

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and I put it right in his forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Back it up, I tell him. He backs it up.

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<v Speaker 1>His eyes were as big as saucers. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say his name, dude, but I can't. Will you? Will

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<v Speaker 1>you added his name out of here? Skick back it

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<v Speaker 1>up to the bathroom. He didn't move fast enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted him to know I meant the fucking business here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I beat him. I had him twice right cheek,

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<v Speaker 1>left cheek, backed off, put the gun back up to

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<v Speaker 1>his forehead, backed him up into the bathroom. Got to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. Get on your knees. He would have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>his these fast enough, so I dropped him with my

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<v Speaker 1>left foot. I got him right behind his right knee.

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<v Speaker 1>That dropped him to his knees, pushed him down towards

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet, grabbed the cuffs that were in my left

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<v Speaker 1>rear pocket and cuffed them right behind the base of

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<v Speaker 1>the toilet. There he sat. I can't remember exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I said to him, but I was dead serious what

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<v Speaker 1>I said, But I really can't remember. Anyway, I waited

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<v Speaker 1>like I was asked to do. Knock at the door

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<v Speaker 1>comes and three of my boys come in. Showed them

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom. I backed out because it wasn't my head,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just my setup. It wasn't my head. Went

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<v Speaker 1>back into the living room, sat and waited. Heard some commotion,

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<v Speaker 1>a muffled gunshot. I know that's the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys walk out. Where's the dope? Can ransacked his bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>found the dope, got about three or four honces of

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<v Speaker 1>what was called at the time, it was pink cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell they call it back then, Peruvian, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, it was coke, all right, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody was doing back then. Uncomfortable brought him

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<v Speaker 1>to the living room, started tearing up the carpet inside

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<v Speaker 1>the living room, wrapped them up in there, and left

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<v Speaker 1>them until tomorrow. What normally happens is or what was

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<v Speaker 1>already set up, was not by me, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>already set up to have a carpeting company come in

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, put in a new carpet, take him out,

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<v Speaker 1>put a new carpeting, lay it, and then me leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent the night waited for the carpeting people. In the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>they arrived about nine o'clock. They took him out, wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up in the carpet, brought up a whole new carpeting

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<v Speaker 1>and padding, laid that down. I left the door unlocked,

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<v Speaker 1>and I left. That was the end of him. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Story's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, I'm your host, Kyle Tequila. Welcome to Crook County.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Crook County.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a den of thieves.

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<v Speaker 6>Dead was a fucking crazy bastard.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know who he is really. People are dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he doing this every night? What about retribution from?

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<v Speaker 1>Could it be the mob? Could it be police? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the worry there? I've done criminal defense now for almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven years.

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<v Speaker 5>It takes one guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Out there who's in his late to say, who's that fucking.

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<v Speaker 6>Asshole Kyle who thinks he can just get on.

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<v Speaker 1>A goddamn microphone on a podcast and start publicizing this shit?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I started having flashbacks about his legs being broken

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<v Speaker 4>when he went out to check them out, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, holy shit. He changed his address to hours

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<v Speaker 4>now these fucking people. Can I find him at our address?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give a shit about kat He did what he did,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he's got to pay, he's got to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>It destroyed our life, It destroyed our prriage, It destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, It really destroyed everything. Just why I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting out of his ship, I'm right fucking back

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<v Speaker 1>in it. It's a double It's following me wherever the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck I go. I can't shake this down of a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode one, Give me your fucking money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna put my voice on nothing, are you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're guess I'm gonna tell the story. Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm interviewing Kenny the Kid for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a big man in his mid sixties, with a

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<v Speaker 2>full head of jet black hair combed and styled with

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<v Speaker 2>only a few strands of gray, wearing a clean white

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt and reading glasses with thick black frames. He's

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<v Speaker 2>handsome in a rundown sort of way. He kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of a down on his luck Clark Kent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Superman, but fat oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm not good at this. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Just whenever you feel like it, just start talking.

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<v Speaker 1>But what am I? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>He's not used to having a microphone in his face

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<v Speaker 2>and seems to be having a little trouble getting comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm very confused on this, Kyle, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna talk. Okay, I'm just gonna talk. I really don't,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's I really kind of don't understand what.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes on like this for a while, but eventually

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<v Speaker 2>he starts talking.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a story, well story, it's not not a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's this is this is my story basically the

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<v Speaker 1>experiences I've had, most of them not by choice, that

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<v Speaker 1>just ended up like I never thought I what ended.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised I'm sitting here, you know, I I technically

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't be sitting here. You know, Historically people don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it, They just simply don't make it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was low level enough, and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a career. I you know, I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want. I didn't do the things that the

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<v Speaker 1>other people did, trying to move up in the outfit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to get their own crews, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make more money. I did fly under the raidar and

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't want to know what the hell was

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<v Speaker 1>going on where I became a trusted member. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to worry about Kenny. You know, Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>does his job. He keeps his fucking mouth shut, He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't steal any money, he doesn't do fucking drugs while

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<v Speaker 1>he's working. He's not running hors on the side, our horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>the side. He does what he's supposed to do when

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<v Speaker 1>he goes home.

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny spent over twenty years working deep inside the legendary

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago Mafia, also known as the South Side Gang or

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<v Speaker 2>simply the Outfit, which rose to power in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenties during Prohibition under Torio and Al Capone. They were powerful, ruthless,

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<v Speaker 2>and violent, with tentacles spreading all the way to Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and California, a vast criminal empire spanning nearly one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 2>making its fortune off bootleg liquor, illegal gambling, prostitution, extortion,

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<v Speaker 2>political corruption, labor racketeering, loan sharking, and murder for hire.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the days of Capone, the outfit has been led

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<v Speaker 2>by a who's who of powerful bosses like Frank the Enforcer, Nitti,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul the Waiter, Rika Anthony Big Tuna Accardo, and Salvator

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<v Speaker 2>Momo Giancano. When Kenny was there in the seventies, eighties

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<v Speaker 2>and early nineties, the bosses were Joseph Joey doves A Uga,

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Black, Sam Carlisi and John No Nos Defranso. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a period of great prosperity and they were stronger

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<v Speaker 2>than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Cook County in the Chicago area. Okay, Chicago is actually

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<v Speaker 1>in Cook County, and we worked in the unincorporated areas

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<v Speaker 1>because the unincorporated areas are you know, we owned you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we owned the judges. We owned the fucking cops. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we owned them, you know, so we can work freely,

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<v Speaker 1>all right?

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<v Speaker 3>And what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I was a low level I ran whorehouses and I

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<v Speaker 1>did them and I did hits. You know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a low level guy and my crew. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the money that we made in our crew worked its

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<v Speaker 1>way up the ladder to the big bosses. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the fucking trenches, man, This is low level,

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets, in the dirt, in your face, the backbone,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fucking outfit. That's where the money came from.

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<v Speaker 1>It came from us, and we pushed it up, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not the fucking captain sitting back while his troops

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<v Speaker 1>were in the fucking trenches fighting it out, fucking hand

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<v Speaker 1>to hand to knife, all right. We are the guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the fucking trenches, hand to hand, knife to knife,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. That's where we are. That's how down, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how far down the ladder we were, all right, fucking

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<v Speaker 1>clipping people and running fucking whoes.

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<v Speaker 2>He takes a long pause and seems to be deep

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<v Speaker 2>in some old memory.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want to glorify this because there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no glory here. I mean, I try to forget

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<v Speaker 1>these stories, and I've been trying to forget these stories

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<v Speaker 1>for years and years and years. You know, MY goal

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't to run hornhouses and fucking kill you know people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was doing what I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>to have a normal life and raise a normal family. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I was doing. I was I didn't have education,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have the opportunity for an education. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to college. I barely got out of fucking high school.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just survival mode. That's all, just really as simple,

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<v Speaker 1>and I survived.

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<v Speaker 4>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about the mafia. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I know as much as anybody who's seen a

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<v Speaker 2>movie or TV show about it. But sitting here with him,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to him talk, watching him remember these terrible things,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel confused. I just don't see what you would

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<v Speaker 2>expect to see from someone who's had a life like this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a hardened criminal with bodies under his belt,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of monster. Instead, I see a tired, sad man,

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely hurt that this was his life. I have to know,

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<v Speaker 2>how does someone like that get wrapped up in all this?

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<v Speaker 1>I got recruited into the mob when I was seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and completely unbeknownst to me, I was the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing on my mind. And there's my parents got divorced.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not going to go into the fucking wall.

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<v Speaker 5>Was me?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I had a rough childhood bullshit, but I

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<v Speaker 1>got tossed out of my parents got divorced. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happy about it. I got tossed out of my house

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<v Speaker 1>at gunpoint by my mother. Go figure. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that'll give you an idea of a kind of family.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I grew up. God rest their souls. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I love my mother dearly, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>my father dearly who's dead. But you know, they they

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<v Speaker 1>just did the best they could with what they had

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<v Speaker 1>and the culture that they grew up in. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I get tossed out sixteen years old. I'm living in

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<v Speaker 1>a backseat of my fucking sixty eight Camaro for about

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<v Speaker 1>three or four months. I need money, all right. I

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<v Speaker 1>know this fucking clown, it's dealing dope, dealing fucking Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>dirt weed. Because back then it was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>the shit they got now is insane, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just straight Mexican dirt weed back then, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>I think you think he had placidos and Quailu's so

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<v Speaker 1>placid was Quailu cash and Mexican fucking dirt. Weeat so

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew we hung out at the fucking kmart,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I watched him for a while. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figured out his pattern, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why did. It just made sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>to just kind of sit back scope him for a

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<v Speaker 1>while so when I hit him, it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>best time or the best situation what anyway, came up

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<v Speaker 1>on him and rob this fucking ass. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking pencil and came up kind of from the side

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<v Speaker 1>I was came because kind of walked on bottom on

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<v Speaker 1>on an angles. I was on the left side and

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<v Speaker 1>came close enough where I didn't seem to be where

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't threatening, but close enough where I could pivot

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<v Speaker 1>and put the pencil in his back. He had a

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<v Speaker 1>jacket out, so I used the rubber you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the eraser part, and believe it or not, if you

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<v Speaker 1>stick that thing in there hard enough, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, have somebody to do that to you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not expecting it, and you know, being told that

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<v Speaker 1>I need your cash and I need you dope, and

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<v Speaker 1>I need it right now, all right, And I got

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking nice stuck in your back, reach into your

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<v Speaker 1>pockets with your left hand and hand me back that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get the dope, I get the money, push

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<v Speaker 1>him forward, tell him not to fucking turn around, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're on our way. He goes off in a sprint.

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<v Speaker 1>I go off, do a round and come back to

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<v Speaker 1>my car. Never really saw him except for two days

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<v Speaker 1>later when I did see him, But I saw him

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<v Speaker 1>with someone else and two other guys off in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>So these two come up on me. I'm sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going I'm thinking to myself, ah fuck, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go here, and I'm completely unprepared, completely came up

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<v Speaker 1>on me, and the bigger guy goes, the older guy goes,

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<v Speaker 1>is that him? And the kid goes, Yeah, that's him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the guy that robbed me. Uncle. He marde a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking crew. He's a mob dude, all right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking send to get her. Alphad guy all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he tells me, He goes, are you looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a job? Oh, yeah, I'm looking for a job. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just fucking starving her. That's how I got into a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking outfit. That's what I got. He was impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>A rough childhood, a tumultuous marriage, a mother pulling a

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<v Speaker 2>gun on her own son, homelessness, desperation, all leading to

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<v Speaker 2>one fateful moment, a bad decision that would define a

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<v Speaker 2>young kid's entire life and the life of his future family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you had a family. Yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a wife, and I had two children, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to keep them as far away from it as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted them to have every advantage in the world

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't have, so they had every opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>have a good life, you know, raise their own families.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a good provider. I loved my family.

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<v Speaker 1>I still do you know very much.

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<v Speaker 2>How much did your family know about your time in

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<v Speaker 2>the mafia.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody, nobody knew anything. I didn't want anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to know I was I was kind of embarrassed. My wife,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was purposely bliss you know, money was

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and she had you know, she was secure

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<v Speaker 1>and she was raised her kids, and you know we

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice suburban life. You know, so like all

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<v Speaker 1>the wives of people that were involved in the outfit

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, blind by choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how do you keep an entire life of crime

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<v Speaker 2>away from your friends, away from your family? How does

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<v Speaker 2>your wife not know or your kids? It seems impossible,

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<v Speaker 2>But I know it's true. I know because I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>because Kenny is my father, and I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>about any of this until now.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a dark days last him and I'm lost in.

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<v Speaker 2>Away Crook County is a true crime podcast about my father,

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny the Kid Tequila's rise through the ranks of one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most notorious organized crimes in and it gets

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<v Speaker 2>in the country, the Chicago Outfit. We'll exploring great depth

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<v Speaker 2>my father's life of crime and it's profound and lasting

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<v Speaker 2>impact on my family to this very day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know he was in the mob until maybe

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years after you guys were born.

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<v Speaker 6>It's crazy to have someone that was so strong in

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<v Speaker 6>my life and so be fucking bad, dream in the

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<v Speaker 6>face over drugs because he was destroying our fucking family.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see why he could be an enforcer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm blind, rage, out of control, violent person.

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<v Speaker 1>You were sitting on a bombshell and you probably didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>Crook County is a production of iHeart Podcasts and Tenderfoot

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<v Speaker 2>TV in association with Common Enemy. All episodes are produced,

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<v Speaker 2>written and hosted by Me Kyle Tequila. Executive producers are

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Albright and Payne Lindsay. Original score by Makeup and

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<v Speaker 2>Vanity Set. Main title song is called Aloha by the

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<v Speaker 2>by the band Starry Eyes. Sound mix by Cooper Skinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to my wife Nicole for not leaving me

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<v Speaker 2>after she found out about all this shit, and a

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<v Speaker 2>big thank you to my extended family for sharing their

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<v Speaker 2>painful memories with me, which no doubt we're never meant

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<v Speaker 2>to see the light of day, not to mention broadcast

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<v Speaker 2>the entire world. I hope we can all find some

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<v Speaker 2>healing through this journey together. Thank you to Orrin Rosenbaum

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<v Speaker 2>and the excellent team at UTA for their support, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course to my fearless attorney, Wendy Bench, who's an

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