WEBVTT - Can we please stop with the NO REST DAYS mentality? with Coach Danyele Wilson 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.520 I won't lend my body out, be out everything that 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.920 I'm made do. Won't spend my life trying to change. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.440 I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong, 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.800 I feel free, I know who every part of me 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:23.960 it is beautiful and I will always out way if 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.599 you feel it with your hays in the air, She'll 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.000 some love to the poet there say good day and 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:36.720 time did you and die out? Welcome back Otway, fam A, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.720 Lisa and Amy. Here just a little quick intro before 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.120 we get into our episode with Danielle Wilson. And this 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:49.080 episode is really rich in how we can bring emotional 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.040 strength to physical strength when it comes to training and 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.560 working out and becoming stronger in our physical bodies. That 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.800 being said, as we were kind of walking through, it 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:01.880 just jogged a memory and me that I'm not sure 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.000 I've ever really spoken about and I wanted to share 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.360 it with you. And that was the time of my 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.680 life after my very restrictive eating took place that I 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:18.120 got very focused on fitness and performance and glute size 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.680 and how many reps I could do. And it was 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.600 under this new guys of health and I was doing 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:30.400 things like Spartan races, which are these three hour intense things. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.959 And even though I wasn't as focused anymore on eating 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.640 very little or shrinking my body in the same way, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.000 I really can look back and see how my obsessive, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.080 not compassionate nature kind of just shifted into something new, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.800 something a little bit more palatable for other people. Even 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.880 you know, people would love to say, Wow, you look 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.680 so fit, you look so strong, And I thrived off 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.440 of that for a while before I was able to recognize, Okay, well, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.680 can even take a rest day? Why are you scared 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.040 to take a rest day? And I pushed myself and 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.720 pushed myself so Amy and I were just talking a 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.840 little bit about this. I was sharing that story with her, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.520 and Danielle kind of just reminded me of a time 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.480 in my life when I took what could be a 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:19.560 positive relationship to exercise, and because of my history, I 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.799 really got obsessive about it. Amy, have you ever been there? 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.520 Or you can't relate to this at all? Oh? No, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:29.480 I can relate. I did a marathon in college, and 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.760 I really honestly did it so I could lose weight. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.120 I thought, oh my gosh, after I get done training 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.840 for this marathon, I'm probably gonna be so skinny. Well 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.440 I wasn't. I ended up using every moment to carbo 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.840 load like crazy. My body hated me. I reacted in 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.120 such a way that when I finished the race, I 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.880 was the puffiest person you have ever seen because my 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.640 body was not built to run marathons. I just was 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.120 not other people. Yeah, maybe for me personally, I got 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.240 a knee injury early on, I had to do training 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.040 in the water, but I was determined. Now, I will 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.400 say mentally it helped me because I did set a 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.399 goal and I wanted to finish it, and I think 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.480 that following through with goals is important. However, I did 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.919 not listen to my body. I pushed through because I 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.960 kept chasing the dream of being skinnier from running. I 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:26.160 never got that runner's body that I envisioned. And so, yeah, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.320 I totally relate to exactly what you just said, Lisa, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.359 And I think that it's not that running a marathon 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.720 is bad, but you got to check yourself. What's your 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.320 real motivation? Why are you doing it? Does running make 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:43.560 you happy? Like is that something that really brings you joy? 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.480 And maybe it does for some people. There's this high 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.560 they get and this that's what they want to do. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.640 We're not saying that it's bad if you do marathons. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.640 But then I found myself doing the same exact thing. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.680 When I was out of college. I got into triathlons 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.080 mainly because I thought, oh, wow, okay, this will be 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.880 easier on my knee. I can swim, bike and run 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.360 and guess what, I'll probably lose weight and let me 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.400 tell y'all in the marathon, and then later in the triathlons. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.720 Because I did multiple I never lost weight, And then 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.880 it caused this whole mental thing because I was in 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.080 it for the wrong reason. And I don't think I 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.120 would have admitted to you at the time that I 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.200 was in it to lose weight. I would not have 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.320 now we're looking back, I can tell you that wholeheartedly. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.839 It's why I was doing it. So then I had 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.520 this horrible relationship with myself because I was so angry 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.479 at the fact that was putting in all this work 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.120 and training all the time, and I wasn't getting the 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.200 results that I wanted. But my body was responding to 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.240 what I was putting it through, and I wasn't happy 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.479 and I wasn't enjoying it. So I just want you. Yeah, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.120 when you get into this episode, I think it all 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.160 It may cause you to reflect when you're working out, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.359 why are you doing it? What is the motivation? And 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.159 is it so that you can like feel good and 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.320 connect with your body and feel strong mind, body and 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.600 spirit or do you always have this lingering, oh, it's 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.520 going to help me lose weight goal? Because that's going 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.080 to get you nowhere. And because Amy and I are 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.920 super transparent with our background and obsessive nature, and if 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.640 you're a listener, you can probably relate to either amy 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.560 story or some of mine, or one of the guests 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.320 that we've had on that a program, like a lot 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.360 of the things that I see online not I've actually 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.640 never done Danielle's program, so I can't speak to that one, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.560 but a lot of the ones that I see online 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.280 that were very trendy for a long time, I know 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.360 straight up that that's not a good fit for me. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.920 Even though they talk about body positivity in some light, 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.520 I know that that's not for me. And I just 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.080 want you to listen and make sure that whatever you do, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.719 whether it's going to a class or not, or going 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.040 to the gym or not running a marathon or whatever 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.400 it is that you check in with yourself and say, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.599 am I being obsessive? Or am I doing this for 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.200 the right reasons? And I think that there's so much 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.560 to Daniel's story that I absolutely love, especially you know, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.960 her story about how young she was when she started 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.480 thinking about her body differently, and she brings so much 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.240 wisdom to how our emotions play a role with our 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.320 physical strength. And I think just learning how to figure 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.719 out that balance within ourselves is kind of the job 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.800 we all have. Yeah, And I love that Danielle is 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.159 is a coach and a trainer that wants to to 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:23.040 motivate you from the inside and wants you to believe 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.880 in yourself. So hopefully that's what you take away from 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.440 today's episode, and then you just reflect on why you're 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.960 doing whatever it is you're currently doing for your body. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.919 What what does your body need? Do checkens daily, checkens 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:39.320 with yourself? What does my body need to day? Love that? 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.320 All right, let's jump in, welcome back to that way. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.120 We've got myself, we've got Amy, and we've got an 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:49.120 amazing guest, Danielle Wilson today. And Danielle is an athlete 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.200 turn trainer on the Tone and sculpt app But what 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.680 I love about Danielle, what drew me in, is that 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.360 fitness to you and the way you talk about fitness 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.479 is a way to boost your confidence and your mental 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.960 strength rather than being just about the pounds and the inches. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.760 So we're so excited to hear your story of how 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.040 you came to really shift your mindset and make fitness 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.560 such a positive place in your personal life and your career. Welcome, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.760 Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, I'm excited 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.040 to jump into it with you. Guys. So you were 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.040 a gymnast your entire life, right, Yes, I started gymnastics 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.280 when I was two years old, so I have been 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.920 you know, tumbling really since I could walk. So yes, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.120 And a lot of our audience comes from a background 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.440 of also being an athlete since they were very young. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.480 Whether they started at too maybe not, but you know, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.160 for most of their life they're spending a lot of 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.680 times training and a result of being an athlete is 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.040 oftentimes your body doesn't fit the traditional medium mold of 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.080 what is beautiful. So for you, as a gymnast, did 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.120 you feel like that was a personal struggle that you 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.400 went through. Absolutely, I think especially in a sport like gymnastics. 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.520 Why and your body, you know, is kind of it's 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.600 the main thing that you're putting on display during competition. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.760 It is something that at a very young age I 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:13.280 became concerned about. And you know, I remember with my mom, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.600 like tearful conversations with my mom not understanding why God 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:21.040 gave me such broad shoulders or why I had, you know, 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.520 such strong arms. I honestly I used to call them 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.720 man arms, which you know, looking back, that's just so 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.360 sad to even hear my younger self say. But absolutely, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.840 you know, looking at magazines and everything and you being 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.559 the complete opposite of what everything is telling you is beautiful, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.120 what is um the gold standard of what you should 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.840 look like As a young girl. Also, growing up in 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.520 a predominantly white area, I'm the only little black girl 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.880 on the gymnastics team. I'm just completely different from everybody 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.600 around me. So, you know, especially growing up when all 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.719 you want to do is fit in and feel beautiful, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.360 finding those things and find that beauty and yourself was 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.920 absolutely something that I struggled with for sure. And being 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:09.080 a gymnast, you're in a leotard very early on. That 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.160 certainly doesn't make it easy. I know, when I was two, three, four, 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.839 or five, I was not thinking about what my body 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.160 looked like in a leotard. Do you have really early 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:21.120 memories of that already being an issue for you? Yeah, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:25.440 you know I was. I was always pretty petite, slender, musty, 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.199 like I hate to say petite, because I wasn't petite. 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.000 I was definitely like this little brick house of a girl. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.600 I was very muscular, broad, and at that time, my 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.160 body was fighting me. I was always supposed to be 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.440 tall and five eleven and the best gymnast in the 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.360 world or four eleven, you know, so my body was 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.600 fighting me in that sport. My dad was a professional athlete, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.880 so I've always kind of had this bigger, you know, broader, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.000 more muscular frame. One thing that I will say possible 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.080 trigger warning for anyone out there. We did get weight 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.800 in monthly, so as a little girl, I we would 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.439 all line up in our leotards and get weight in 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.559 in front of our entire team. Because I was the 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.040 tallest on the team, I was always the heaviest. And 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.080 while that never really it never took me to the 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.680 point of, you know, altering my food patterns and eating 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.839 patterns or things things like that it was something that 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.400 was prevalent that I, you know, would come home and 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:27.040 not understand why I was so much heavier all the time. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.240 So yeah, definitely early memories of worrying about my weight. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.360 I think that's something that a lot of people can 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.920 relate to. Not that they were gymnasts, but because of 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.880 their sports, they felt they needed to be a certain weight. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:44.240 But I remember watching athlete A on Netflix and feeling 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.319 so awful, specifically for the gymnasts because of the pressure. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.600 Or you think of dancers or ballerinas and like they 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.880 have to weigh a certain amount according to their teacher 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.120 or their coach or whomever, and they're willing to sacrifice 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.760 and do whatever they have to do to make sure 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.719 that they're there that goal. And I can't imagine. As 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.800 a kid I was, I probably put that pressure on myself. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.480 I weighed myself all the time, So I don't know 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.880 what it's like to have a coach or somebody weigh 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.440 you all the time and tell you like, this is 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.080 what you need to be. So then, therefore, did you 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.920 see girls around you that would try to find ways 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.560 to drop weight quickly? I don't think so. I don't 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.840 want to like it wasn't ever really out and exposed. Um, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.280 I don't think it was something that no one really 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.680 talked about, which is honestly even a little bit more 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.160 just consturbing because I don't know what was going on 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.200 behind the scenes. I know, for me personally, the only 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.240 way that I was able to be okay with the 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.400 weighing in front of the team was the fact that 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.160 I did have one coach that always told me, you 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.320 know what, like you are so strong, like you are 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:59.280 so powerful there. You know, there's all these awful sayings like, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.840 especially gymnastics when you're younger, you hear these awful things 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.640 like that people don't go as high when you're tumbling, 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.720 and just terrible things things that you would never want 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:10.719 to say to a little girl. All she wants to 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.600 do is, you know, be this phenomenal tumbler and go 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.560 to the Olympics. You know. So for me, I never 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.120 saw any you know, disordered behavior like out in the light. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.200 But that doesn't mean that you know, it wasn't going 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.720 on behind the scenes by any means. But for me, 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.480 I really was able to hold onto the idea of like, yes, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.080 like I might be heavy, but I'm powerful and I'm 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.760 so strong and I that kind of has been ingrained 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.760 in me through my parents and through one of my 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.960 coaches that always kind of continuously reminded me of that. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.960 Because I was a very small I wish I could 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:47.760 show use some pictures of what I looked like. I 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.400 was a tiny package, but there was a lot of 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.400 muscle mass packed in that tiny package, so I just 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.480 weighed more. I'm glad you brought up that your parents 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.000 were a good encouragement for you during that time, because 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.720 we have a lot of moms that listen to this, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.480 and I think that they can hear you say that 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.959 and then be reminded to make sure if they've got 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.960 kids that are in a certain sport or doing gymnastics 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.520 or dance or cheerleading or whatever, that they make sure 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.920 and have some conversations when their kids get home from 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.760 practice and like see how they're really feeling and what's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.280 going on inside of them, and make sure that they 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.280 know that they are strong and they are amazing, because 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.160 I mean, who knows our kids are just off at 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.240 school and doing these sports and we don't know how 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.480 they're being spoken to, and they may not come home 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.040 and really share it with us. Right. It was one 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.240 of those things where we just kind of lined up 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.800 and they would write the number on. They would look 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.480 at our bodies, move the little scale thing back and forth. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.719 I would I do remember looking at that and always 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.640 just hoping that I would be able to move it 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.480 down a little. Do you remember those scales where it 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.480 kind of like balanced out. I would remember always like 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.480 wishing that she could tap that little thing a little 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.480 bit farther down so I could get a little bit 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.160 lighter and a little bit lighter. So that was is 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.040 something that I do now that I'm thinking about it. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.400 I just got a flashback of that. But that, for 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.840 you is a flashback to your childhood. But so many 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.960 people listening right now that was the reality for them, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.760 maybe even this morning, and again again put on themselves. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.880 So how do you encourage women and people and clients 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.720 that you work with to not get fixated on the 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.920 scale going down that direction? Yeah? I mean that's the 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.320 reason I don't even have a scale in my house today. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.600 I used to, I would say, you know, it was 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.600 that wasn't just a one and done thing in childhood. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.120 It was all throughout high school, all throughout college, even 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.800 when I transition to cheerleading. Um that was still you know, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.480 you're in a little uniform in front of a crowd. Um. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.560 That was always still something that was on my mind, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.440 even after even maybe even more so after I stopped 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.160 playing sports, because you know, I don't have to go 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.480 to practice anymore. I don't have a coach telling me 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.240 exactly what to do in the gym. So I'm even 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.680 more worried about my weight going up now since I 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.920 don't have that activity that I used to with my sport. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.040 So one of the main things that I try to 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:12.120 ingrain in my especially my TONU sculpt athletes. Day one, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.440 before you ever start a program with me, you do 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.360 a benchmark performance test. That test is how I want 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.240 you to start to shift your brain from solely a 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.400 mindset of what my body looks like to what my 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.480 body is able to do and what my body is 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.160 able to achieve. So day one we're testing lower body strength, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.720 core strength, upper body strength, and endurance. So then one 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.080 you know your why going throughout the program, right, you 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.800 understand why you're doing all these workouts, but you know, 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.200 eight weeks down the line, sixteen weeks down the line, 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:47.200 after you finish this program, you have real numbers of performance, 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:52.520 real other ways to quantify progress rather than solely just 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.760 seeing a number drop on a scale. No, we want 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.440 to see these numbers increase. We want to see our 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.440 lower body strength increase, to see our upper body strength increase. Um. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.000 So really being able to switch that mindset from what 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.000 my body solely looks like, what it weighs, what the 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.320 things are I want to change about it to know, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.760 I'm so grateful that I was one. I was able 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.080 to get up today and move and to I can't 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.600 see my body getting stronger and the confidence that that 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.080 gives you When you can see the numbers going up 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.280 for your performance, that is when that that light bulb 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.840 goes off, like this is it? This is it? I 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.120 feel like for you, the physical strength and the emotional 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.800 strength kind of go chicken and egg like is it 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.440 your physical strength that's bringing you emotional strength or is 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.520 it your emotional strength that's helping you get physically stronger. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.520 But for a time being after you left college, you 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.280 no longer had your coaches to tell you what to do, 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.080 and nowhere to show up for trainings all that stuff. 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.000 Did you then find that because you didn't have that 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.080 physical strength on an ongoing basis to check in to 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.280 find your power house, if you will, the one way 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.640 you've kind of been taught. How did you find your 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.480 emotional strength during that time? For a period, I wouldn't 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.080 have to admit that I was lost. Um, I would 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.679 have to say after college it was kind of the 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.800 first three years out of college was a very weird experience. 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.639 More kind of fell into possibly unhealthier behaviors with alcohol 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.720 and things like that. But you know, there was a point, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:31.480 and I strictly remember this. It was after St. Patrick's Day, 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:36.560 which is, you know, a heavily inebriated holiday in Chicago. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:38.920 Will say, and you know, I woke up the next 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.399 morning and I looked in the mirror and I was like, 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.480 I don't recognize this person, Like who is this person? 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.280 And that was kind of one of those moments where 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.000 it was like, Okay, I'm gonna give myself some time 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.119 to feel this emotion, feel what this feels like, to 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.240 not feel like myself. I'm gonna give myself some time 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.560 to be sick of feeling this way. And the next day, 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.960 you know, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna do something about it. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.400 So you know, it really came down to a decision 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.520 of being sick of feeling a certain way about myself 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.840 and understanding that I'm the only one who has the 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.879 power to change that for myself and really stepping into 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.480 my power and making a better decision each day and 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.720 every day. You know, I'm not saying from there on 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.440 out it was perfect, because that's not. That's just not 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.520 the case. Ebbs and flows with every journey, for sure, 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.240 But you know, it really was a mindset shift of Okay, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.360 how what can I do to get back to feeling 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.800 like me again? Since the athlete piece was not missing, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.680 how can I bring that athlete back? Do you feel 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:49.120 like we all have athletes inside of us, because even 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:54.800 if we're really not athletes, Absolutely no, honestly. And I've 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.600 I've had this conversation with my athletes before because I'll 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.320 have women that look at my videos sometimes or like 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.639 that's phenomenal for you, but I can't do that, And 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.400 I'm like, yes you can, yet you just you telling 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.960 yourself that is setting yourself up for failure. Yes you can. 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.639 If you have a body, you have the ability to 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.720 move it in an athletic manner. Being an athlete is 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.639 more of a mindset than anything else. I always like 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.560 to say, if you're just going in the gym and 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.679 you're exercising to burn a certain amount of calories and 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:28.000 check a box, that's not how an athlete operates. An 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.560 athlete operates knowing that, Okay, I'm competing against the version 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.280 of myself I was yesterday. I'm competing against those benchmark 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.160 numbers that I set for myself day one of my program. 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.440 I'm doing this because I want to get better. I'm 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.600 training these specific movement patterns because I want to be 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.960 able to move more freely. I want to be able 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:50.679 to create longevity. It's more of a mindset committing to 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.199 getting better every single day, rather than going into the 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.120 gym and exercising to check a box. That's the big difference, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.639 the difference between training and just exercising and Amy and 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:05.600 I know firsthand from our own experience and also just 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.040 talking to our audience and number registered dietitian working with people. 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:14.000 That's sometimes exercise addiction, even if it's not about the 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.600 calories and shrinking yourself, but maybe it is about the 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:22.320 performance and the you know, hitting those benchmark numbers. People 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.679 can become just as obsessive about those numbers. Is that 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.679 something that you've experienced or some of your athletes have, 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.800 And if so, how do we kind of come back 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.719 to the emotional strength that we're cultivating when we're at 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:38.840 the gym and when we're not. Yeah, I think you know, 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.679 the longer you're in the game training that way, you 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.160 know you're it's a law of diminishing returns. So in 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.719 the first couple of weeks you might improve your strength 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.879 by but the longer you're doing it, those increases are 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.560 going to get smaller and smaller. So for me, someone 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:59.200 who's really been really training training for four or five 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.080 years now, my increases are definitely small. So, yes, there 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:05.399 is frustration when I'm not seeing those numbers go up 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.200 on my squat or my dead lift like I used to. 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.959 But the main thing I'll always say, because you can 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:15.440 turn anything into an obsessive behavior. Anything that's deemed healthy 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.359 quote unquote can turn into something that is unhealthy with 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.560 the wrong mindset. But what I like to remind people 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.960 of is, you know what, you don't have to do 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.600 this today. You get to do this today if you 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.080 have the mindset of leading with gratitude first, it really 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.000 helps put things in perspective, and it really helps you 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.879