Speaker 1: You're tuned into Heat Check, But just a quick.
Speaker 2: On this episode of the Heat Check, there's trouble.
Speaker 1: There's trouble in Golden State with our Doves and David
Speaker 1: does fans just aren't ready to accept the truth about
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole.
Speaker 2: So we talk about that.
Speaker 1: I have some things I need to say, things I
Speaker 1: might have over over said last night in haste and
Speaker 1: in pain. As the Golden State Warriors cost me Golden Well,
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole cost me probably close to five hundred.
Speaker 2: Dollars with not winning.
Speaker 1: No, not close to exactly that amount. And so we
Speaker 1: talk about him, and we talk about Draymond Green and
Speaker 1: the lost tapes of his podcast in the wake of
Speaker 1: punching Jordan Poole in said face, which we now know
Speaker 1: there was an episode recorded that he did not publish.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, there is al so an epidemic that is
Speaker 1: sweeping the NBA, and we check in on the official
Speaker 1: Timberwolve spokesperson, the pr REP as it were, Austin Rivers.
Speaker 1: I also bitch about the All Star voting because I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's terrible. All right, I'm heading out to Sacramento,
Speaker 1: Nick to see the Kings place.
Speaker 2: Lebron James, so drop that generic gas beat.
Speaker 3: Oh, Dubs fans, Dubbs fans, We're a fickle bunch, aren't we.
Speaker 3: If you criticize the Warriors even a little, no matter
Speaker 3: how legitimate those criticisms are, you could be in the
Speaker 3: DMS with the most rabid Dubs fan and they know
Speaker 3: what's up.
Speaker 1: They tell you, Yeah, all my, all the homies hate
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole right now, they say that. But if you
Speaker 1: say that on social media, one you're a hater. Two
Speaker 1: you don't want to let this young man develop, and
Speaker 1: three they'll try to kick you off the Warriors fan bus.
Speaker 1: That's that's what makes the Dubs our Dubs. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't say a peep, cannot say one peep in
Speaker 1: the moments when people are legitimately fucking up and losing
Speaker 1: games as a result of those fuck ups. And in
Speaker 1: my case, let's just tell you go back to the kitchen.
Speaker 1: You're not even a true Dubs fan. There was seventy
Speaker 1: one quote tweets. None of them were good on my
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole tweet last night. They were all some version
Speaker 1: of who are you? Why do I see you on
Speaker 1: my timeline? But I think we do need to kind
Speaker 1: of talk about our dubs a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: six and without Steph is fine. That's much better than
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was. This team would go
Speaker 1: three and seven, but our Dubs losing to the Pistons
Speaker 1: twice twice the Pistons. The Pistons has check notes eleven wins.
Speaker 2: On the season. Two of those wins are against y'all.
Speaker 1: Right, two of those eleven are again over twenty percent
Speaker 1: of those wins are against y'all. You lost to the
Speaker 1: Pacers twice as well. I like the Pacers, but come on, now,
Speaker 1: you lost to the Magic. I mean, these are the
Speaker 1: doldrums of the NBA that you should be feasting on,
Speaker 1: just stinking your teeth into to get easy wins, fatten
Speaker 1: up so that when you see the Miami Heat away,
Speaker 1: or you see the New York Knicks away, or whoever.
Speaker 2: You could say, look, we're good.
Speaker 1: We've just been destroying teams like the Pacers, the Magic,
Speaker 1: and the Pistons. So okay, I have to admit I
Speaker 1: had a lot of money riding on this Warrior's win.
Speaker 1: So when I got home, I did not go to bed,
Speaker 1: I did not watch the highlights. I did not look
Speaker 1: on my phone while I was watching the game, which
Speaker 1: may sound inconceivable to some. I was locked in to
Speaker 1: every possession of that Warriors game. And I tell you what,
Speaker 1: there's nothing like the hate that you experience for Jordan
Speaker 1: Poole when your money and your livelihood depends on him
Speaker 1: not making bad decisions, because he made a lot of
Speaker 1: them last night, and he.
Speaker 2: Made a lot of them against the Hawks. He made
Speaker 2: a lot of them against the Blazers.
Speaker 1: These are three games straight where the decision making quality
Speaker 1: has been bananas. Like bananas zibbit a was last night.
Speaker 1: Everybody just wants to be sunshine and rainbows. They just
Speaker 1: want me to say, oh, it's gonna be. The only
Speaker 1: thing you can ever say about the Doves when they're
Speaker 1: losing is it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing you can say.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine, because it always is fine, and
Speaker 1: that's what they want to hear when things go bad.
Speaker 2: But here is the reality of the situation. And I
Speaker 2: do think things will be fine because.
Speaker 1: It's always fine with the Warriors. But we have a
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole problem, folks. Nobody wants to admit it, and yes.
Speaker 2: Will he grow, Will he evolve? Will he develop?
Speaker 1: Did stepf have problems like Jordan Pool where he was
Speaker 1: turning the ball over? Did Clay have problems where he
Speaker 1: was making sure? None of that right now is relevant
Speaker 1: at all. We're talking about criticizing the here and the now. Okay, like,
Speaker 1: what do I see? What is happening? What does it mean?
Speaker 1: What are the consequences of what I see? Right We're
Speaker 1: not We're not putting our crystal ball on. That's not
Speaker 1: what this job is.
Speaker 2: This man has a lot of offensive responsibility, as we know.
Speaker 1: But the issue for my guy, Jordan Poole JP for
Speaker 1: whatever reason that no, what he wants to talk about
Speaker 1: is the turnovers.
Speaker 2: The turnovers.
Speaker 1: There's other ones too, I mean, chucking just randomly. You
Speaker 1: know how much I love a heat check, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's the name of the pot. But Jordan Poole
Speaker 1: will heat check when he's ice cold and contested and
Speaker 1: defenders draped around him early on in the shot clock.
Speaker 1: But right now, what we're talking about is turnovers, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Jordan Poole does more than anyone in
Speaker 1: the NBA. You didn't think you didn't think that was true? Yeah,
Speaker 1: more than any human being playing.
Speaker 2: In the NBA right now. Jordan Poole worse than Trey Young.
Speaker 2: That is insane.
Speaker 1: I know he's got to be aggressive. I know the
Speaker 1: ball's got to be in his hand. I know he
Speaker 1: has to get into traffic. He's got to get you
Speaker 1: into a place where there's lots of bodies around trying
Speaker 1: to poke the ball loose. But sometimes he's just throwing
Speaker 1: it to the other team on his own self, no issues.
Speaker 1: He's making boneheaded mistakes in the crunch time, down the stretch,
Speaker 1: when you're down by one, when you have the Warriors
Speaker 1: just to win, and you watch Jordan Poole, it's like
Speaker 1: having a heart attack every possession.
Speaker 2: I tell you what, it is, nothing like it. And
Speaker 2: maybe I wouldn't notice.
Speaker 1: These things if the last leg of a six leg
Speaker 1: parlay wasn't on the line.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 1: And I'm focused now, and it's okay to admit it.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Draymond, It's okay, Steve Kerr, it's okay, Clay.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 1: Anyone that's rooting for the Dubs pool right now is
Speaker 1: a flamethrower who makes some costly mistakes down the stretch.
Speaker 2: It's okay. It's okay to admit that it loses you games.
Speaker 1: It's okay to say, on one hand, he keeps us
Speaker 1: in games because he scores like crazy, but we don't
Speaker 1: know when he's gonna fuck up. And all I want
Speaker 1: from a player is to know what he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Anthony Slater tweeted this out today. Jordan Poole has committed
Speaker 1: a dribbling turnover in the final minute of regulation in
Speaker 1: three straight tight games. Yeah, it finally costs the Warriors
Speaker 1: in a loss against the Pistons. The only reason that
Speaker 1: this hasn't been written about with the Hawks or the
Speaker 1: Blazers is they won those games. Draymond Green had to
Speaker 1: make a three point shots in order to beat the Hawks.
Speaker 1: Are you are you joking me? What kind of world
Speaker 1: are we living in? And we're just gonna let that'sie.
Speaker 1: We had to have a Draymond Green prayer to get
Speaker 1: this dub folks. Folks, Jordan Poole is averaging five point
Speaker 1: one turnovers per game since Steph left. He had six
Speaker 1: last night alone. Six This man, Jordan Poole had fifty
Speaker 1: two turnovers in the ten games that Steph has missed,
Speaker 1: and that is the most in the league. C J. Holmes,
Speaker 1: the Warriors Rider, points this out. This isn't a recent issue.
Speaker 1: Pool had an NBA high one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 1: turnovers entering play Wednesday, and was eighth in turnovers per
Speaker 1: game at three point six. This is a man who
Speaker 1: comes off the bench too. We're not talking about this
Speaker 1: stretch where he's playing without Steph.
Speaker 2: Jordan.
Speaker 1: Poole is committing three point six turnovers per game period
Speaker 1: off the bench. Poole has committed seven turnovers in clutch time,
Speaker 1: defined as the final five minutes of the game in
Speaker 1: which the scoring margin is no more than five points.
Speaker 1: I'd say pretty critical time to take care of the basketball.
Speaker 2: But make that eight.
Speaker 1: Now with six seconds left down one last night it
Speaker 1: was I don't even know what to say. He gave
Speaker 1: it to Clay, good job, Clay gives it back and
Speaker 1: he say, oh no, he drives right down. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember against too Alec Burks. It was Alec Burks
Speaker 1: dribbles the ball off his feet, trips over himself, throws
Speaker 1: the ball out of bounds and you are now fucked.
Speaker 2: Thank god, somehow.
Speaker 1: Clay ended up making an insane three point shot with
Speaker 1: almost no seconds to go, leaving you with one second
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you don't defend Sadiq Bay.
Speaker 1: Sidik Bay with one second left shoots three in your
Speaker 1: eyeball night night, sleep mask. I looked at my phone
Speaker 1: to say overtime. I was just texting someone to say overtime.
Speaker 1: Shame on me because I looked up and my jaw
Speaker 1: dropped because it said final what This is an issue?
Speaker 1: And it's not just an issue because the Warriors are
Speaker 1: paying him thirty million dollars a year. It's it's an
Speaker 1: issue because this team wants to win now and they
Speaker 1: don't have the patience to wait for him to catch
Speaker 1: up and evolve and develop like Steph did. Do you
Speaker 1: know the difference between Jordan Poole and Steph Curry. There
Speaker 1: was no expectation to win a fucking thing when Steph
Speaker 1: Cree came into the league. None, zero, absolutely none. We
Speaker 1: had Monte Ellis. That's the one.
Speaker 2: Monte Ellis.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to say Monte Morris because he's the
Speaker 1: one playing right now.
Speaker 2: He was in there.
Speaker 1: There was multiple guards playing for the Warriors at that
Speaker 1: point in time where you didn't need Steph to be
Speaker 1: the guy at that moment, just like they don't need
Speaker 1: Pool to be the guy at this moment.
Speaker 2: But listen, Steph's not there. You need to win. Joe
Speaker 2: lacub is.
Speaker 1: Breathing down your necks saying that he will shed salary
Speaker 1: if this team is not a contender. They need to
Speaker 1: win now. They need to protect the ball, especially in
Speaker 1: crunch time. Every one of these wins is gonna be precious.
Speaker 1: Let's break down a couple of the recent games against
Speaker 1: the Hawks. Jordan Poole was eleven for thirty one, two
Speaker 1: for twelve from three seventeen misses from the left side
Speaker 1: of the court, including three corner threes, open ones too,
Speaker 1: not contested ones, open ones. Oh, by the way, really quickly.
Speaker 1: He shot a corner three last night and did the
Speaker 1: staff thing where he turns before it goes in.
Speaker 2: It did not go in.
Speaker 1: It barely hit the fucking rim. So like, it's okay
Speaker 1: to be eleven for thirty one. If you're the central
Speaker 1: hub of the offense, sometimes you shoot poorly. He did
Speaker 1: end up with twenty eight points, but you can't have
Speaker 1: six turnovers if you're not shooting well.
Speaker 2: You have to figure out a way to do your best.
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson impression. That's just what it is. Here's what
Speaker 1: he did in crunch time. He turned the ball over
Speaker 1: with twelve point one seconds left down too in regulation.
Speaker 1: Then he had a three pointer blocked by Murray that
Speaker 1: went straight to Dante, who tied the game with the three.
Speaker 2: So that's the reason that they were able to go
Speaker 2: to overtime.
Speaker 1: He misses a pull up three with forty seconds left
Speaker 1: in ot up one, they end up winning that game.
Speaker 1: It doesn't always work like that, as we saw against
Speaker 1: the Pistons, a critical turnover in the last four seconds
Speaker 1: of the Jazz game cost them a win that also
Speaker 1: wiped out and washed out an elite scoring performance last night.
Speaker 1: He was taking terrible threes early.
Speaker 2: On in the shot clock.
Speaker 1: You've got multiple guys who can you can facilitate it
Speaker 1: to move the ball around. You can't just take a
Speaker 1: thirty foot step back three, just terrible steph was visibly
Speaker 1: mad at that turnover, but then Clay, of course is
Speaker 1: Clay and says some nice things to give Jordan Poole
Speaker 1: an out and make him feel better about himself, because
Speaker 1: what do you get to do if you're his teammate
Speaker 1: right now? You're not gonna make him feel worse, are you?
Speaker 1: You're not gonna make him feel less confident about this
Speaker 1: performance and him as a human being and as a
Speaker 1: basketball player. Of course, not because you want him to
Speaker 1: continue to produce. But this is what he said. I
Speaker 1: told him in the locker room that there's a reason
Speaker 1: that I threw him the ball because he's like that.
Speaker 1: He's a clutch player, he's a shot creator. We would
Speaker 1: have not been on this win streak without him.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, we all go through these lapses throughout
Speaker 1: our career. I remember missing two free throws against the
Speaker 1: Nuggets in my second year and just leaving the arena
Speaker 1: in my uniform. So it's like we all got to
Speaker 1: go through it. Steph went through it.
Speaker 2: Jordan.
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to trust him with the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands because he's the engine that makes us go.
Speaker 2: But it's not the misshots. It's not it's the it's
Speaker 2: the turnovers. It's the troubling, troubling turnovers.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna have buyers regret on Jordan Poole and
Speaker 1: extending him for that much money so soon? Probably not,
Speaker 1: But listen, I understand you're gonna have to pay four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars next year. If you keep
Speaker 1: them all, what are you gonna do? The longer it
Speaker 1: remains an issue, who knows.
Speaker 2: Maybe a trade happens, Maybe our dubs struggle and continue
Speaker 2: to struggle.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we know Steph will
Speaker 1: pull them out, figure out a way to get into
Speaker 1: the play end of the playoffs, and make a run.
Speaker 2: That's what they do. We are the evil Empire.
Speaker 1: But the longer they struggle, the less likely Lika will
Speaker 1: want to continue to carry this enormous, enormous peril.
Speaker 2: So don't hate me. I'm just pointing out what I
Speaker 2: see from Jordan Poole right now. Like him, think he's
Speaker 2: a good player. Please don't call me a hater. The
Speaker 2: end