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Speaker 2: Made it till Wednesday, It's our one. A lot of

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Speaker 2: fun last night, two close basketball games and a very

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Speaker 2: close baseball game as well. Venezuela overs Ball Championship, Howard

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Speaker 2: Gang's all here, the Minister of Humor, Fritzie Seaton, Marv Pauling,

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Speaker 2: yours truly, and the backroom guys as well. Baseball was fun.

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Speaker 2: Here is the final out of last night, with Venezuela

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Speaker 2: beating the United States.

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Speaker 1: One into the count, two outs, three two, Venezuela US

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Speaker 1: patting last of the nine.

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Speaker 2: Lencia set the one two pitch, so.

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Speaker 3: I got an ass.

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Speaker 2: Venezuela wins the WBC.

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Speaker 1: Nine players fall to their knees.

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Speaker 3: They can't believe.

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Speaker 1: That they've done it. They upset the US. Venezuela is

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six WBC champions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great atmosphere there. That's what you want.

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Speaker 2: And you're watching Team USA and I know it's it's

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Speaker 2: probably a big blanket to throw over this. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much it meant to Team USA, Like this

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Speaker 2: wasn't you know, the United States against Canada and hockey

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Speaker 2: in that moment, it just felt like Venezuela. It meant

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Speaker 2: everything to them. And I don't know if you can

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Speaker 2: make somebody care more. I mean, Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they wanted to win. By the way Aaron

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Speaker 2: Judge getting roughed up on social media. They can't play

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Speaker 2: big in the big games there. But you know, it

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Speaker 2: was just it was a good jump start to the season.

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Speaker 2: That's the way I viewed this, a good jump start,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you could take inventory and know who

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Speaker 2: some of these players are or maybe attached to their

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Speaker 2: countries as we move on. So I thought it was

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Speaker 2: a really good couple of weeks for baseball. Now we

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Speaker 2: go into a little more Spring training and then Opening

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Speaker 2: days around the corner, there's going to be talk. John

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Speaker 2: Smoltz yesterday was saying, hey, why don't we do this

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Speaker 2: and have a final four at the All Star Game

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Speaker 2: and then have a championship. You have the All Star

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Speaker 2: Game and then you'll have Cooper's Town with the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame induction ceremony. I get it, but I would

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Speaker 2: rather let my players play in spring training than in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the season. They want to play in

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Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Okay, normally you'll get guys who

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Speaker 2: play maybe just a couple innings. But we're trying to

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Speaker 2: make it bigger than I think what it can be.

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Speaker 2: And keep this in mind, the next WBC is in

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Speaker 2: twenty thirty, so there's no real all next year or

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Speaker 2: the year after that. You got the Olympics coming up

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Speaker 2: as well, So this momentum that we have to now,

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Speaker 2: let's do something different. Look, twenty thirty, that's a long

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Speaker 2: way away. Eh, Yeah, So it doesn't happen next year,

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Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have the Olympics coming up, and

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Speaker 2: then I think it's twenty thirty the next time we

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Speaker 2: have the WBC.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, are we going to do the show for

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Speaker 4: the next WBC?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to be retired little reunion. No, No,

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Speaker 2: not for that. No, not for that.

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Speaker 5: We only got back together for that.

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Speaker 2: For the for the WBC. Yeah, you know, what's the

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Speaker 2: event that could bring you back just for a one

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Speaker 2: off the WBC. It would kind of be awesome. Really, No,

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Speaker 2: it wouldn't. No, it wouldn't no, But congratulations to Zuela. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they did care. I mean, you had those guys sobbing,

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Speaker 2: they're singing their country's anthem. They're getting their medals, although

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Speaker 2: you could tell where Kyle Schwarber, Mason Miller, I think

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Speaker 2: they got their silver medal and they're like, no, we're not.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know when they gave up Teddy Bears

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Speaker 2: at the Olympics to Canada. You got these tough guys

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Speaker 2: there and they give you a Teddy Bear. I go, man,

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Speaker 2: don't think we need to do Teddy Bears? Yes, God,

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Speaker 2: and listen Wimbledon. You know there's a trophy and there's

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Speaker 2: a plate. Both of them are decent looking trophies. You

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Speaker 2: want the you know, you don't want the plate. You

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Speaker 2: want the trophy.

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Speaker 6: But you know, either don't give anything out for second place,

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Speaker 6: or I make it something a little more substantial.

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Speaker 2: And you had these moments. Bryce Harper had one of

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Speaker 2: those moments last night where it's a two run homer

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Speaker 2: to tie the game. But how many times have we

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Speaker 2: seen these big moments get forgotten? Harper's moment will be forgotten.

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Speaker 2: How about Jermaine Jermaine curse? In the Super Bowl against

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Speaker 2: the Patriots Super Bowl forty nine, That unbelievable catch, Julio

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Speaker 2: Jones's catch against the Patriots Super Bowl fifty one. RAJ

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Speaker 2: Davis the Indians Game seven home run against the Cubs

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Speaker 2: in the World Series. Kind of forgot about that as well.

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Speaker 2: And then I mentioned Aaron Judge. So his struggles continue

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Speaker 2: in big moments. Zero for four with three strikeouts last night.

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Speaker 2: You go back to the twenty twenty four World Series

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Speaker 2: where he batted two twenty two four for eighteen, seven

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Speaker 2: strikeouts in five games against the Dodgers. I'll take him,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you don't want him, I'll take him.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty good, certainly in the regular season, but stepping

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Speaker 2: up in the moment. Bryce Harper had his moment last

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Speaker 2: night with a two run homer. But Schwarven didn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: I think he had four strikeouts or they like to

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Speaker 2: say punch outs. And then Aaron Judge as well. All right,

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Speaker 2: poll question for the first hour of the program, seat

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Speaker 2: is going to.

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Speaker 3: Be what.

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Speaker 7: We got a couple oposits for you here. The World

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Speaker 7: Baseball Classic should be, it should stay in the preseason,

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Speaker 7: or it should be part of the All Star break.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I already stated my piece on it. I don't

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Speaker 2: want my players. All Star is an all Star break,

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Speaker 2: and the and the season is long, and this is July,

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Speaker 2: and I'm fine with spring training. But once again, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to be playing for four more years with

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Speaker 2: this format. And I think that's why in everything that

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Speaker 2: we have with this, it's going to dissipate and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna forget like man who won the last time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: venice away, All that's right, but it's four more years

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Speaker 2: like Japan bows out, you know, now we start the

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Speaker 2: regular season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but they sometimes it's harder when you have something

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Speaker 7: great on your hands, it's more difficult or the bigger

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Speaker 7: problem is knowing what.

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Speaker 2: To do with it. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's clearly uh causes gets generate some excitement,

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Speaker 7: get some momentum for the game, which is which is great.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like, Dan, what the hell do we do

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Speaker 2: with this? Yeah, you can't do anything. You could problem.

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Speaker 2: You can talk about it, you know, buster on you

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Speaker 2: the great writer with the mother ship he talked about

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Speaker 2: He echoed what John Smoltz pointed out. But once again,

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Speaker 2: this is four years down the road. I think people

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Speaker 2: think this is an every year occurrence and it's not

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Speaker 2: going to be. And then you have the situation with

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Speaker 2: Mason Miller. Okay, you're not coming in unless it's a

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Speaker 2: save situation. You got to negotiate, you know, the Venezuela

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Speaker 2: had to negotiate with the Cubs, you know, when their

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Speaker 2: closer came in, Mason Miller with the padres and then

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Speaker 2: you're negotiating, Hey, he can only come in in a

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Speaker 2: save situation. How long are you going to be able

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: And that changes the game. So we got to kind

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Speaker 2: of be all in on this. Like I love the

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Speaker 2: Four Nations, but I love that because the United States

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Speaker 2: and Canada, you know that rivalry and you're dropping the

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Speaker 2: gloves and you're fighting, and it really meant something there.

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Speaker 2: You can't tell hockey guys to go. They take it easy.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hey, he's only going to play four shifts tonight.

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Speaker 2: That ain't happening. It's going to be Hey, we're playing,

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Speaker 2: we're winning. Yeah, Pauline, it was interesting last night ninth inning.

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Speaker 2: They need their best closer, Mason Miller and Mark de

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Speaker 2: Rosa goes with Whitlock, the reliever out of Boston, I think,

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Speaker 2: and clearly that's a second tier guy in compared to

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Speaker 2: Mason Miller. Could you have gone the other way and said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not coaching this team in four hours. I can't

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Speaker 2: be fired for this. No you can't do that. Yeah

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Speaker 2: you can't.

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Speaker 4: What if you asked Mason Miller, No, you.

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Speaker 2: Can't because you have an agreement with the Padres and

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Speaker 2: I don't. You can't. Now. I think players in other countries,

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Speaker 2: if they had the opportunity, like the closer for Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: Okay's he's fun. I get the feeling. If it wasn't

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Speaker 2: the Mason Miller situation, he probably would have said, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming in because if you look at his teammates,

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Speaker 2: look at how emotional they were like. This wasn't just

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Speaker 2: a hey, this will be fun, this was oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we got a chance to win. And I get the feeling.

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Speaker 2: He probably would have said, Hey, I'll take the heat

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Speaker 7: See, I feel like, you know, looking ahead four years

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Speaker 7: from now when you have Venezuela winning in Japan, United

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Speaker 7: States and Dominican Republic underperforming. Those are built in storylines

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Speaker 7: heading into that next one that are really great.

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Speaker 2: But you don't know how many players who played in

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Speaker 2: this year's WBC will be there in twenty thirty, Like

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Speaker 2: you'd like to have that boy he's going to get

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Speaker 2: a chance at redemption or you know, Aaron Judge, Kyle

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Speaker 2: Schwarber probably won't be playing. Bryce Harper probably won't be

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Speaker 2: playing in four years. But yeah, I mean it's disappointing

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Speaker 2: that you can't capitalize on this because you had a moment.

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Speaker 2: It was fun, enthusiasm, and I love the spirit of

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Speaker 2: these other countries. You know, we get caught up in

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Speaker 2: you know, play the game the right way and they

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Speaker 2: you know, they celebrate differently, bat flips, all of that.

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Speaker 2: It it meant more to them. The spirit of the game,

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Speaker 2: the passion of the game was very, very evident. There's

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Speaker 2: no room for that. Yeah, we can't what is what

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Speaker 2: this excitement? Play the game the right way, you know,

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Speaker 2: just run the bases and sit back down. I used

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Speaker 2: to be I I used to be come on and

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Speaker 2: then you I love passion. Now if you're down, you know,

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Speaker 2: nine to one, and you hit a home run and

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Speaker 8: But I love the passion. Yes, Martin, it is wild.

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Speaker 4: Well it took me seven anes, all right, to be fair.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he started at nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 9: He's going into year fifteen, twenty twelve at age nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Okay Foe Gune conclusion Hall of Famer right now. Two

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Speaker 9: Bryce Harper's going to the Hall of Fame. You make

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Speaker 9: Those are two different topics.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was the chosen one. He was on the

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Speaker 2: what fifteen, Not exactly the Lebron of Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Pauline, that's exactly right. He's had three great seasons.

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Speaker 9: He's had about ten good seasons. Yeah, and some of

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Speaker 7: But he had two MVPs and they were six years apart.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, Tod.

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Speaker 6: If you don't match or exceed wild expectations, I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. We're the one that put the

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Speaker 6: Do you think it would take a lot of luster

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Speaker 2: You know, let me take a break think about that.

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Speaker 2: I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Feasible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Yeah, yeah, thank you, Todd. Okay, Erry, Once

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Speaker 2: I saw where Matt Liiner, former USC Great Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to retire? You know, the Yankees have

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Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I'm going to unretire my jersey and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to Nick.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So here is Matt Liiner being asked to unretire his

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Speaker 11: When I was at USSE I got my number retired.

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Speaker 11: There's been multiple times where people at USC have asked

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Speaker 2: Be Cole Okay, Cole being his son. We apologize for

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Speaker 2: that that slipped by the goalie there, Yes, Paul, which.

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Speaker 4: Bothers you if anything, Matt Liner saying no, or Matt

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Speaker 2: Asked a recruit saying hey, I want that jersey number. Yea,

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Speaker 2: be here for a year. I'm going to unretire my

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Speaker 2: I think you get your jersey retired. But we can

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Speaker 6: Yes, Todd, but Matt and no one else in that

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Speaker 6: and I had absolutely no problem with him saying no,

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Speaker 6: it was retired. That's the number. No one gets to

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Speaker 2: And it's multiple times that he was asked.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, you know, I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in Nick Wright, host of First Things First

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports one and What's Right with Nick Wright.

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Speaker 5: To me again, please now, because I'm sitting here listening

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Speaker 5: I don't know what every take I heard there was bad.

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Speaker 5: The first of all, retiring jerseys is awesome, and you're

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Speaker 5: like all the Yankees they've retired twenty two numbers. Well,

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Speaker 5: Second of all, it's not the recruit's fault for asking

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Speaker 5: if you make it, should there should be gravity to

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Speaker 9: Hold on hold on what Paul okay, Nick, Let's say

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Speaker 9: the New York Giants football team, they've retired fourteen jerseys

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Speaker 5: I understand, which is why it is now now the

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Speaker 5: that's Matt Leiner, who I've worked with. But I was

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Speaker 5: way I told you guys. Maybe I didn't mention being

433
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Speaker 5: comfortable my sexuality part of it. I don't want to

434
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Speaker 5: make them uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, you haven't been around Brady Quinn then,

436
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Speaker 2: so you know, you know not my type. Brady Brady

437
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Speaker 2: Quinn is c G I you know, speaking of bad takes,

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Speaker 2: you're Matt Laner. Okay, all right, Uh did.

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Speaker 5: You want my college basketball top five?

440
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Speaker 2: You got one?

441
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Speaker 5: Well, I feel like there are three must includes. Okay,

442
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Speaker 5: We're gonna do players you saw. Oh no, I can't

443
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Speaker 5: do Okay, I don't have that ready. Kareem is my five,

444
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: Luel Sender Walton's my four. I'm gonna play them both

445
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Speaker 5: and I think they'll figure it out. And Pistols my two.

446
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 5: There is a debate at point Oscar magic. I'm going

447
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 5: to go Oscar and then there is uh not a hole.

448
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 5: But the only hard position to fill is your three,

449
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: and you different ways you could go with it. I

450
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 5: lean Larry Bird. I would listen to you on if

451
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Speaker 5: you think I am being too much of you know,

452
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 5: a slave to the history, and that the youngest guy

453
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 5: on my team is Larry Bird. That does seem a

454
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Speaker 5: little odd. I'm being honest, but I don't I I

455
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 5: don't know that anyone else comes to mind. And it

456
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: is the greatest college basketball players of all time, unlike

457
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 5: almost any other ranking are going to always be these

458
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Speaker 5: old timers because nobody is gonna play three or much

459
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: less four years moving forward. So like you'd have to

460
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Speaker 5: go to like a Doug McDermott type, and he's not.

461
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Speaker 5: He doesn't make my team with respect.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could have grand Hill in there over Dusk.

463
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Speaker 5: I was so I thought about grand Hill. I wanted

464
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Speaker 5: to find a way for my guy Jerry McNamara and

465
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Speaker 5: his greatest Big East Tournament ever. And if I at

466
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Speaker 5: least somewhere beyond the roster, I did not have, you know,

467
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 5: Tim Dunk, the greatest college basketball players I've seen. I'm

468
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 5: gonna Hansboro. Hansborough would be better remembered if he never

469
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 5: played in the NBA. He was such a dominant college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to put Latner in there over Tyler Hansbrough.

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Speaker 5: This is gonna make you. I didn't see Laatener.

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Speaker 2: Well you didn't see Oscar No.

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Speaker 5: But I was just saying guys that I've seen. I

474
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Speaker 5: was doing a new list where I did guys that

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Speaker 5: I've seen.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you didn't see later.

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Speaker 5: I was born in eighty four, so technically I saw

478
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Speaker 5: him but I have no memory. Oka, Like the first

479
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: college basketball team that I have vivid memories of is

480
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Speaker 5: the AI Georgetown team. Okay, so you know, so like

481
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Speaker 5: ninety six ninety something. Tim Duncan's the greatest college basketball

482
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Speaker 5: player that I you know, that I watched start to finish,

483
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Speaker 5: and I Jerry McNamara, you know, is a really of

484
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Speaker 5: my lifetime. Mello had the best season. I'm Syracuse guy,

485
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Speaker 5: but Mello had the best season. Durant probably was the

486
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Speaker 5: most dominant if you don't care about the winning portion

487
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Speaker 5: of it in college, like the most dominant single season

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Speaker 5: of you know, this century, in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Nick Wright, you can check him out on

490
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Speaker 2: YouTube wherever you get your podcast, What's Right with Nick Wright?

491
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Speaker 2: And of course Monday through Friday, First Things First on

492
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports One helped me understand the logic of the

493
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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins here.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know, I actually support what they're doing, and

495
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Speaker 5: I think that just taking your medicine and saying we're

496
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 5: not going to do a half measure here. We made

497
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 5: some very very aggressive moves thinking we were championship contender.

498
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 5: We weren't, and rather than peacemealing it, we are ripping it.

499
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Speaker 5: Down in a way not I mean three hundred million

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00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 5: dollar salary cap, one hundred and fifty million in dead

501
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 5: money and by the way, still forty five million in

502
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 5: dead money coming a year from now on to his deal.

503
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Speaker 5: We're gonna deal with that now. I think the reason

504
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: people take issue with that is, well, then why sign

505
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Speaker 5: Malik Willis? And my answer to that is, Jeff Hafley has,

506
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 5: you know, familiarity with him. In order to evaluate any

507
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 5: of I assume they're going to draft a receiver. Like

508
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: young players on the roster, you need to have a

509
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: level of competency at quarterback. And if they end up

510
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Speaker 5: being having the number one pick, but they think despite that,

511
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 5: Molik shows them enough, then they can really supercharge the

512
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Speaker 5: reload by flipping that number one pick. And if they

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Speaker 5: you know, if he plays well enough for them not

514
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Speaker 5: to have the number one pick, then they signed the

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Speaker 5: right guy. And if not, it's not like they signed

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Speaker 5: him to a five year, huge guarantee. So it and

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Speaker 5: even if they get the number one pick and draft

518
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Speaker 5: a quarterback, you still might be like, Okay, but Malik,

519
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 5: you start next year and then maybe he's a trade

520
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: chip if he plays well. So I think what they're doing. Logically,

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Speaker 5: if I was if you said, Nick, you're taking over

522
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Speaker 5: the Dolphins, I would have done a lot of the

523
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Speaker 5: same things, like let's take our medicine right now and

524
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Speaker 5: then try to move forward. But they are going to

525
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: be the worst team in the league by a lot,

526
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Speaker 5: by a lot next year.

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Speaker 2: Who's more all in? The Broncos or the Rams?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: The Rams. I don't. I don't necessarily view the Broncos

530
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Speaker 5: as all in. I think that they made a smart trade.

531
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Speaker 5: I like the Wattle trade. He's only twenty seven, he's

532
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: on a reasonable contract, Like I usually don't like trading

533
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: first round pick plus for aging player, but he's not

534
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 5: really aging. He doesn't make a ton of money. The

535
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 5: Rams are again that there's not a lot of franchises

536
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: that I think are you know, run well, and by well,

537
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 5: I mean the way I would do it. But the

538
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 5: Rams recognizing we we have the oldest excellent quarterback in

539
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: the league, so let's let's not treat twenty twenty nine

540
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 5: as valuable as twenty twenty six. I think it's super smart.

541
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Speaker 5: The Broncos saying our window is open opening, so we

542
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 5: don't want to go all in, but we also want

543
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Speaker 5: to take advantage of the moment, and it's a very

544
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: interesting thing with the dispersement of receivers across the league.

545
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 5: I would argue, right now this moment, there's more talented

546
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 5: receivers than any other time in NFL history. But there's

547
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: also two divisions that don't have any of them. The

548
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 5: AFC West in the AFC East, where Jalen Watta walks

549
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Speaker 5: in and he's the best receiver in the division by

550
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Speaker 5: a lot. DJ Moore, who I don't love, but walks

551
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 5: in into the AFC East and he's the best receiver

552
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 5: in the division by a lot, when neither one of

553
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: those guys would be the fourth best receiver in the

554
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Speaker 5: NFC North, so to speak. So they you know, I

555
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 5: think that was a smart move by Denver.

556
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 2: More surprising that the Chiefs brought in Justin Fields or

557
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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce came back.

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Speaker 5: Uh. I right after the Super Bowl, I thought Travis

559
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 5: was going to be done. As the offseason went on,

560
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: I then came to believe he's gonna run it back

561
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Speaker 5: another year. So I wasn't by the time we got

562
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Speaker 5: to the announcement, I wasn't surprised. I was surprised that

563
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Speaker 5: there were folks, some friends of mine in the NFL

564
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 5: media that were willing to be like breaking news. Travis

565
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: Kelcey listening to other teams know he wasn't like I've

566
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: never liked there. There was a zero percent chance he

567
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: was gonna play for anybody else. And I think everybody

568
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: knew that. I really like the Fields edition because they

569
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 5: they gave up nothing. So he's price wise, very cheap

570
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: for a backup. Three million bucks. Gardner Minshew was the

571
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 5: Chiefs backup last year. It's got paid seven million. You

572
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: can say, well, they traded a sixth, but because of

573
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: the NFL's we were comp pick formula, had they signed

574
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Speaker 5: a backup, they would have lost a seventh. So they

575
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: ended up essentially getting him for nothing. And I wanted

576
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 5: the Chiefs four years ago dan to sign Cam Newton

577
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 5: so we can run quarterback sneaks again and maybe have

578
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: just make teams when they play. The Chiefs spend ten

579
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: minutes of practice that week dealing with the wildcat quarterback

580
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 5: run package. And so now you are still I know

581
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Speaker 5: I and I pitched it to Cam, but you know

582
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: Cam's building his media empire. I so I if you're

583
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Speaker 5: if you were to tell me Patrick is gonna miss

584
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: the first month of the season, which I do not

585
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: think is gonna happen. I would have rather had Kirk

586
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 5: Cousins as my backup quarterback. If you were to tell

587
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: me Patrick's gonna be there in week one, I would

588
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: rather have Justin Fields because once Patrick is back in healthy,

589
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins serves no utility. I think Fields can get

590
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 5: on the field even once Patrick is back in healthy.

591
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I like the signing. I've been a

592
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: stubborn Justin Fields fan. I mean, he was in a

593
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: bad situation. I thought he played okay in Pittsburgh and

594
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: maybe he does that you know, reclamation on the third

595
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: team Sam Darnold like, and gets an opportunity to like

596
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: Malik Willis did in Green Bay.

597
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Speaker 5: For him, this is the either Kansas City or the

598
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: Rams would be the two places I would want to

599
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 5: go if I were him. Where It's like, you don't

600
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 5: you know, I know he might have to play in

601
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: the beginning for Kansas City, but get a year under

602
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 5: that coach, learning at that quarterback's feet, and then see

603
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: if you can recharge your career. Can I I don't

604
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 5: know how much time we have, Can I ask you

605
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 5: a favor, Yeah, because you are. You know, I am

606
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 5: friendly with Charles Barkley. At least I was the last

607
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: time I saw him. He maybe maybe not anymore. I

608
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 5: would hope. I am still no reason not to be.

609
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 5: You are legitimate friends with him. The next time you

610
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 5: see him, can you can you ask him? Does he

611
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 5: still like the NBA? Like like, listen, that's a fair question.

612
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: That's just a fair question.

613
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: And I want to be clear. I think Charles is

614
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Speaker 5: the the greatest in the history of the world at

615
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: what he does, and I think a lot of people

616
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 5: have failed trying to be Charles Barkley when you there's

617
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: only one Charles Barkley the And I'm not acting like

618
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: we get this compliment a lot, but the greatest compliment

619
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Speaker 5: that I ever receive about the TV show for things

620
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: first is when people say it reminds me of inside

621
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 5: the NBA, which again I'm not saying we need that

622
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 5: combline a lot, but whenever we get it, it means a lot.

623
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Speaker 3: To me.

624
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: That's one of, if not the greatest sports TV show ever.

625
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: But man, oh man, I wish they liked basketball still.

626
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 5: That's just I think.

627
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: Well, the difference is you guys do research on first

628
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 2: things first, like you guys are still studying it. I think,

629
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Speaker 2: you know, Charles in Chack, I don't. I don't know

630
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: if they really care. You know, they're jaded with this

631
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: and now that we've allowed them to do it, you know,

632
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: it's not like Charles is all. That's like with Charles

633
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: with March Madness, I'm like, don't put him on March madness.

634
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 5: But so here's the thing though, at least with March Madness,

635
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 5: he's excited and int Like what he's not gonna do

636
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: with March Madness is be like, why are we talking

637
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: Saint John's They're not winning the championship? Like the Chuck's

638
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: almost vendetta against the Lakers, which actually seems like his

639
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: media criticism of how the media talks about the Lakers

640
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 5: is to me misplaced, because if we want to say, listen,

641
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 5: Celtic's thunder Spurs, everyone else can't win the championship, that's

642
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 5: probably correct, Like that's I think the vast majority of

643
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: times one of those three teams wins the title. But

644
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 5: after those three, the Lakers are looking eye to eye

645
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: or looking down on every other team in the league,

646
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 5: and so to then dismiss them. It's like, well, then

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Speaker 5: we're dismissing Denver, we're dismissing the Knicks, We're dismissing the Pistons,

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Speaker 5: and that to me is misplaced given what they've done

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Speaker 5: over the course of the year in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 5: And again I say it on the front end. Really,

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Speaker 5: I'm not really afraid of any enemies. But I do

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Speaker 5: want to be friends with Charles Barkley one day, and

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Speaker 5: so I just want to talk about how much I

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Speaker 5: love and respect him. But I just don't like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't see if I can brok her a deal there.

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Speaker 5: That would be great rate. You think you me and

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Speaker 5: Chuck one day could gamble together.

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Speaker 2: I don't gamble.

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Speaker 5: What if I what if? What if I buy you in?

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Speaker 2: No? You it's no. It's a gateway drug and I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I used to be it.

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Speaker 5: But but but at your age, what are you worried? Like?

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Speaker 2: But I don't need the money.

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Speaker 5: It's it's you know what, Oddly, and I think Chuck

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Speaker 5: would back me up on this. Sometimes it's not even

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Speaker 5: not only is it not about needing the money. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: it's not even about winning. Sometimes it's you need the

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Speaker 5: loss you need to feel a lot.

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Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, to walk out of there and

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Speaker 12: be like, you know what that's gonna I'm gonna trust

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Speaker 12: your opinion. I don't need to find I don't need

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Speaker 12: to feel it myself. What's the what's the biggest loss

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Speaker 12: you ever suffered? Like where you go that well? I

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Speaker 12: could bring me to tears.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this is a great March madness story. This is

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Speaker 5: great because this is not you know, as you get

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Speaker 5: older and make more money, the dollar amounts, you know shift.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest loss as a percentage of my net

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Speaker 5: worth was the two thousand and eight NCAA Tournament final

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Speaker 5: Kansas Memphis. Right, Memphis is a three and a half

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Speaker 5: point favorite. I am fresh off being on Who Wants

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Speaker 5: to Be a Millionaire and winning fifty grand and gambling

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Speaker 5: all the time, and like and making eight dollars an

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Speaker 5: hour doing radio. And I have a bookie in Kansas

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Speaker 5: City that I gamble with that I convince him. I

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Speaker 5: was like, listen, I hate this is true story. I

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Speaker 5: was like, I had a dream that Memphis won by three,

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to bet Kansas plus three and

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Speaker 5: a half. I want to bet Memphis minus two. And

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Speaker 5: a half because I want to root for Memphis, but

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Speaker 5: they're gonna win by three. And I was like, so

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Speaker 5: set me a price. So I had to lay one

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Speaker 5: for I had to lay minus one forty, so I laid.

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Speaker 5: I bet literally net worth, which you know, I think

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Speaker 5: it is fourteen grand is what I had left of

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Speaker 5: the fifty to win ten biggest bet of my life

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Speaker 5: by a mile. And Memphis is up three with a

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Speaker 5: second left, and Chalmers hits the shot and then they

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Speaker 5: admit that was the Derek Rose miss free throws, Chomers

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Speaker 5: hits the shot, Kansas wins in overtime, and I and

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Speaker 5: I went from being the only person who in the

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Speaker 5: world who was gonna bet Memphis and one time back

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Speaker 5: at zero. That's what That's what it was. But I

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Speaker 5: felt alive. Dan, I remember that story eighteen years later.

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Speaker 5: Let's gol Tiar comes to mindye thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I'll work on the Charles Barkley thing. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining me.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: NYT's Nick Wright, host of First Things First on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports one every afternoon Monday through Friday. What's Right with

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Speaker 2: Nick right on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all of our takes were bad. On Matt Lioner. We'll

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Speaker 2: come back and discuss that after this.

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Speaker 1: listen live JC and Detroit. Hey JC, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Dan?

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed your conversation with Nick, which led me

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Speaker 3: to a bigger question, and I have a smaller question. Also,

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Speaker 3: when you're considering your all time greatest teams, are you

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Speaker 3: more in the camp of, oh, the entirety of their

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Speaker 3: career and their accomplishments, or like their peak extended period

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Speaker 3: of time, or as I like to call it, kind

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Speaker 3: of the Lebron corollary. As far as the greatest of all.

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Speaker 2: Time, well, I tend to look at the totality of

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Speaker 2: your career, because you can have a couple of years

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Speaker 2: where somebody is sensational. But you know, we were talking

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Speaker 2: about Bryce Harper. He's had two MVP seasons, but then

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Speaker 2: he's had, you know, some seasons that were not great numbers.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe be level C plus, level B minus,

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Speaker 2: level something like that. But yeah, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 2: totality of somebody's career. Carrie in Minnesota, Hi Carrie, Hey.

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Speaker 13: Good morning Dan and Dane's long time first time six

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Speaker 13: feet in a firm two hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Really, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your

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Speaker 13: interview with John Schmoltz yesterday. You know, I thought when

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Speaker 13: he was playing he was always a class guy, And

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Speaker 13: yesterday he had some interesting ideas on the All Star

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Speaker 13: Game Slash Week. And you know what, always when I

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Speaker 13: see him, I'm a lifelong Twins fan, and it always

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Speaker 13: takes me back to the ninety one World Series. You know,

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Speaker 13: he pitched a great game into the bottom of the eighth,

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Speaker 13: and unfortunately for him, Jack Morris pitched a greater game,

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Speaker 13: and you know, the Twins winning and extra innings and

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Speaker 13: you know, I don't know about you, but I don't

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Speaker 13: think we'll ever see a game like that again with

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Speaker 13: you know what, the pitcher is going that beat?

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Speaker 2: No, no, I mean, if you go five, it feels

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Speaker 2: like boy kept him in there a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: those days are gone and you can't fight it. I

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Speaker 2: mean you can try, it doesn't matter. It's a workhorses.

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Speaker 2: Maybe going six innings, it's just you know, that's that's baseball.

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Speaker 2: That's analytics. Back to the Matt Weiner story that he

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Speaker 2: doesn't want USC to unretire his jersey, and like, at

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Speaker 2: some point, I don't like what constitutes retiring a jersey,

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Speaker 2: Like what do you have to accomplish where you go? Yep,

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Speaker 2: we're going to retire that jersey. Like the New York Giants,

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning, you're going to retire his jersey. They've retired

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Speaker 2: his jersey. Okay, I get it, Lawrence Taylor, but all right,

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Speaker 2: so you retire Phil Simms jersey. They retired his jersey, right.

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Speaker 2: The Yankees have retired twenty two numbers, every single number

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Speaker 2: from one through ten. I understand what Liner's saying. Wait,

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Speaker 2: you're retiring my jersey. Now you want to unretire because

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Speaker 2: some you know, high school seniors coming in and once

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Speaker 2: number eleven because he wore eleven in college. No, now,

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Speaker 2: unless they say, hey, you know, we're gonna miss out

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Speaker 2: on this five star recruit if he wants to wear

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Speaker 2: number eleven. And I'm going to guess their recruiting coordinator

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Speaker 2: is probably saying that. But to ask him, according to Matt,

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Speaker 2: numerous times, like why numerous times? Why not just once? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Tous and you're not.

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Speaker 6: All in on playing for that school. If it's so

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Speaker 6: much about the number, where's the passion of desire. I

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Speaker 6: want to be a USC Trojan if I can wear

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Speaker 6: your number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand why Matt would be like, no, hey,

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Speaker 2: don't keep asking me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't agree with what Nick was saying.