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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and new He scrugs.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody's Friday, March fifth, The Plans Lounge is here.

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Speaker 1: This is a show where two former Dallas Cowboys, saying

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Speaker 1: the Barry Church and Danny mccrag come together with their

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Speaker 1: ideas and their disagreements. I am new He scrugs, the

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Speaker 1: moderator of this. I've covered the Cowboys since Toddle Toddlers. Man,

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Speaker 1: they were toddlers. Let's just jump right to it, man,

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Speaker 1: let's just jump right to it. I need a yes

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Speaker 1: or no. It's Dak's deal done by Tuesday, March, Nike,

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Speaker 1: when they have to. That's the final day to slap

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag on players in the National Football League. Danny,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a definitive absolutely not. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: they're not about to fool me. And thinking that all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden this is gonna get done what it's

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Speaker 1: been in the making for, I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: years nobody's budgets and now you got one week. Like,

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Speaker 1: if the deal was gonna get done, they would have said,

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Speaker 1: we would have been seeing stories about them being somewhere

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Speaker 1: close to a deal. We're so far opposite of that

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Speaker 1: right now that I just don't see it getting done

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Speaker 1: in the next four or five days. Yeah, And for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, d Mac. I don't see

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Speaker 1: anything getting done by the deadline. Especially, I think it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna be another franchise tag year for him. I

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Speaker 1: don't think they can the Joneses, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: Dak's team, Todd France and those boys, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come together on an agreement on a long

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Speaker 1: term deal. And I don't think it's gonna get done

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Speaker 1: by July fifteenth either. I think, to be all honest

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Speaker 1: with you guys, I think that will be playing if

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Speaker 1: he does decide to play, I think he'll be playing

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Speaker 1: on that franchise tag. And I think this will be

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Speaker 1: the last number four because I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go around for another for another goal a round, because

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Speaker 1: I think the tag next year is like fifty four

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Speaker 1: don't think they'll get a deal done by Marsh ninth,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they'll get it done by July fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But do you think it's a possibility that there is

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Speaker 1: no franchise tag giving on the ninth and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: they just try to try to see if they get

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Speaker 1: lucky and back as one of those guys who wants

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Speaker 1: to negotiate. Ain't no way man. If they don't tag

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Speaker 1: that man, he's up out of here man. And then

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Speaker 1: they don't have any other backup because you know, we

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Speaker 1: were feeding that kool aid. We were drinking that kool

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Speaker 1: aid last year. So we slipped back in the draft

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Speaker 1: and we don't have a high enough draft pick to

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Speaker 1: get one of them top guys, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: we have enough capital to trade away to get somebody.

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Speaker 1: So for me, I think we're stuck right now, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're stuck with this franchise tag. Do you

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Speaker 1: think do you think that Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: church and knew it that they would say, all right,

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Speaker 1: Dak is going to be out there. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be a free agent, and what we're gonna do is

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see what price he's commanding on the market,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll just pay a dollar over that because

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Speaker 1: we know he wants to stay here, and we'll still

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Speaker 1: be saying we're gonna make him the highest paid whatever

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Speaker 1: based on whatever he's getting offered. Do you do you

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Speaker 1: see that as being an option for the Cowboys? Go ahead?

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Speaker 1: Nw it No, because the way you do that, you

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Speaker 1: don't let him test free agency. You just put a

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Speaker 1: transition tag and put the first round tender and you

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Speaker 1: see if somebody is willing to give him a deal

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Speaker 1: then you can just match it and then you've got

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Speaker 1: the contract. So um, so that way you're protected. You

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Speaker 1: let this guy go free, then you're not you know,

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Speaker 1: you're you could be out. So there's you have to

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the insurance. You know, These tags

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Speaker 1: So I don't see any way that they do not

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Speaker 1: use some type of tag, be it transition. How much

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Speaker 1: danchise tag on dak practicot, how much how much is so? So?

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Speaker 1: What is the how does the transition tag work? How

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Speaker 1: for five years and one hundred and twenty five million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: I the Cowboys have an opportunity to match that contract

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Speaker 1: or what I can say. Nah, I'm not gonna match it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take two first round picks. That's what what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I'm saying nobody offers that. Nobody offers

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Speaker 1: anything for that. How much do the Cowboys have to

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Speaker 1: pay him? So if it's like we trans were putting

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Speaker 1: to be a Cowboy. How much do you have to

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Speaker 1: pay Dak Prescott for having a franchise tag. I mean

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Speaker 1: the transition tag on him plan all you see? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the mix of Well, that's the franchise you talk at

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Speaker 1: the transition tag? Um is it? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's the mix of Basically, maybe they have to pay

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Speaker 1: him the thirty seven on the transition tag. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: to the question, if you let him go free, you

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Speaker 1: run the risk of doing of them just leaving period.

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Speaker 1: make Pro Bowl quarterbacks to Chicago. So to give up

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Speaker 1: and try to secure my job and if I'm Matt Naggie,

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Speaker 1: I'm in there too saying, yeah, give me Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: So do you think that they would that Dak has

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Speaker 1: just giving you eighteen. That's all you need is eighteen

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Speaker 1: this way, all right. So the knock on Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: trying to get at was, you're in a situation too

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Speaker 1: where if you franchise tag him, if we understand it correctly,

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Speaker 1: you franchise tag him our transition taglem you still on

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Speaker 1: the hook for thirty seven million dollars this year? Right

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Speaker 1: at least right because because if no team, like let's

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Speaker 1: figure something else out. And nobody offers that, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Now Carolina is sitting here with a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: his roster. Okay, Danny, I'm gonna fight you on this one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But I think they did a great justice by Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith allowing him to come back after those gruesome injuries.

427
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Speaker 1: But I don't think they owe him anything. Maybe after

428
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: he's done, if he retires and wants to come back

429
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Speaker 1: and be a QB coach or something like that or

430
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Speaker 1: quality control, they might open the doors for that, But

431
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Speaker 1: as far as playing and continue his NFL career in Washington,

432
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Speaker 1: I don't think they owed him anything, and I think

433
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: they did a great justice by him. Yeah, I agree

434
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Speaker 1: with Churchill most of it. I hadn't I hadn't really

435
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Speaker 1: been in depth on the story. I know he was

436
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Speaker 1: a little frustrated with I think he felt a little

437
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Speaker 1: pressure to play at one point, even though he wasn't

438
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Speaker 1: really confident that his leg and stuff was okay. So

439
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: I would say minus that, the fact that they did

440
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Speaker 1: keep him on the roster and give him my opportunity

441
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Speaker 1: to play, they gave him a shot and I lost

442
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Speaker 1: all all of my surprise with this type of stuff

443
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: and thinking that This couldn't happen to anybody once. Once

444
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was out of Indianapolis. Once I saw that,

445
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: I know that, I knew that nobody was safe. So

446
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: I think they gave him a shot and he wasn't

447
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Speaker 1: Payton Manning, so he got a little bit more than that.

448
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: So shout out to them for giving the shot. But

449
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 1: they saved him fourteen mill night. Time to move on

450
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: and find you a real quarterback you got with the Haskins.

451
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: Heiinik is not the answer. Now you're getting rid of

452
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. It's time for you to point forward and

453
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Speaker 1: find you the guy. Washington now has fifty million dollars

454
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Speaker 1: in cap money to spend. The Pittsburgh Steelers told Ben Roethlisberger,

455
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Speaker 1: We're not going to pay you forty one million dollars

456
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. He ends up reducing his money

457
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Speaker 1: to fourteen million dollars to play for the Steelers this

458
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Speaker 1: upcoming season. Mccraig, good move, absolutely, absolutely, I mean, where

459
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Speaker 1: were the Pittsburgh Steelers going without Ben Roethlisberger. They saved

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Speaker 1: some money, They brought a guy back who's been leading

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Speaker 1: the franchise for over a decade now, and you're gonna

462
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Speaker 1: give him another shot. I mean, as long as you

463
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Speaker 1: put a running game there with him, and you don't

464
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Speaker 1: ask him to throw the ball fifty or sixty times

465
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Speaker 1: during the season during during one game, I think that

466
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Speaker 1: he can still be productive, play defense, get a running game,

467
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Speaker 1: and let him go out there and be Big Ben

468
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Speaker 1: and make some big time throws, timely big time throws,

469
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Speaker 1: and I think they could be successful. I mean, they

470
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Speaker 1: won what thirteen fourteen games this year, so they're not

471
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Speaker 1: far off. Yeah. To me, I think they didn't have

472
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Speaker 1: any other choice. I think they picked too late in

473
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Speaker 1: the draft to go ahead and get a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: they can get moving forward. And to me, they gotta

475
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Speaker 1: address this position next year. This got to be the

476
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: last year for Big Ben on the Steelers team because

477
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Speaker 1: he can't push the ball down the field. He reminds

478
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Speaker 1: me of what we saw and Drew Brees, especially in

479
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Speaker 1: the playoff game when teams were just just hugging the

480
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage because they knew he couldn't push the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field. And when you don't have a

482
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Speaker 1: running game, and look, I don't think James kind of

483
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's the answer at all they need

484
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Speaker 1: to address that running game. But when you don't have

485
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Speaker 1: a running game and all you do is spread out

486
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Speaker 1: the ball, these teams, these defenses, they got smart over time.

487
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: They said, hey, look this guy's not pushing it down

488
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Speaker 1: the field. He has weapons out there to get it

489
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Speaker 1: down there, but he just doesn't have the arm strength

490
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Speaker 1: to get it out there. So all they're doing is

491
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Speaker 1: dinking Duncan and substituting that for a run game. So

492
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Speaker 1: they just went ahead ug the line of scrimmage. He

493
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Speaker 1: couldn't do anything throughout the seat, throughout the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, and especially in the playoffs. So for me,

495
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Speaker 1: they didn't have another option because they didn't pick high

496
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Speaker 1: enough and I didn't see them trading for anybody like that.

497
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Speaker 1: So they had to bring Big Ben back for one

498
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Speaker 1: more year. But overall they got to adjust this next

499
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Speaker 1: year because he can't push the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: His elbows injured. I think we've seen the lads of

501
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: him after this year was messed up. Yep. Why why? Well?

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Speaker 1: I just think overall, this team has so many financial

503
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Speaker 1: issues that they can't put together a team that contend

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. I just don't see it. And

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Speaker 1: then The other issue is the way and go piggyback

506
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Speaker 1: of what church. It's the way Ben Roethlisberger plays. Ben

507
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger does doesn't want to get behind center. He wants

508
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Speaker 1: to drop back and just pass past pass, And we've

509
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Speaker 1: clearly seen this is not the identity for them to

510
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Speaker 1: win a championship. Juju Smith is gonna be a free agent,

511
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Speaker 1: not a guy I would pay a lot of money.

512
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: James Connor is a free agent, not a guy I

513
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Speaker 1: would pay a lot of money. Your center, Marquis Pouncy

514
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: is going to retire. You have other line issues here.

515
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Speaker 1: To me, this is the perfect time to just say

516
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Speaker 1: goodbye to Ben Roethlisberger and just hit a reset button

517
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Speaker 1: and just say, you know what, we gotta take this

518
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Speaker 1: for a year and just get our team retool. You're

519
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: trying to put band aids on stuff. I just don't

520
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: see enough band aids to fix his team. You gotta

521
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Speaker 1: pay t J. Watt button pre another client of Dak

522
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Speaker 1: Prescott's agent, Todd Franz. He ended up getting hurt with

523
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Speaker 1: a torn acl So what do you do with him

524
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: in terms of a contract. Here? The salary caps going down.

525
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: They got cap issues all over the place. I just

526
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Speaker 1: think this is the time to almost be like Philadelphia

527
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Speaker 1: just say, you know what, we're gonna tap out on

528
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and we'll see it here twenty one. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I agree? What why though? Hello, way that Philadelphia's season

530
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: versus the Steelers season were totally different, all right. At

531
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Speaker 1: one point this team was undefeated, they had Super Bowl aspirations.

532
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Speaker 1: They could not find a running game and it didn't

533
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Speaker 1: end up well for them. They went to the playoffs.

534
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Speaker 1: They had a good defense. I don't think it's time

535
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Speaker 1: to rebuild. Listen, if if we if we were if

536
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Speaker 1: that was the Cowboys and they had the season that

537
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers had, you would not be saying, hey man,

538
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Speaker 1: yeah it's time it's time to rebuild, just because our quarterback,

539
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 1: you know whatever. You'd be like, you know what, we

540
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: were this close, so we just need to fix a

541
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: few things, put a band aid on it, and if

542
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: that banddaid could get us to the super Bowl, then

543
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: we could think about moving on from big being after that.

544
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: They were too close and they were a solid team

545
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Speaker 1: for you to just say, hey man, I think we

546
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: should we should start rebuilding. That's himself gonna get strong himself,

547
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: like you do. You think he's gonna be able to

548
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: push the ball down the field next year? Listen, listen, listen.

549
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: I know at points in time in the season, especially

550
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: at the end, he wasn't. But don't forget man, you

551
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: had Claypool on your team, and that dude was going

552
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: deep all seasons, all right, So big, big, big can

553
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 1: do it. I mean he was coming off the elbow surgery.

554
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: So this year to me was a little, a little scratch.

555
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: He's making what fourteen million dollars, find a cheaper quarterback.

556
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Speaker 1: They could do that, all right. They were winning games,

557
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: y'all act like they were like two and fourteen. Last year.

558
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: We were sitting there like wondering when when they were

559
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: actually going to lose because they were almost going undefeated

560
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: for the whole season. So I mean, it ain't time

561
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Speaker 1: to refild. They're close, Like I said, they're closed. If

562
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: you want to lie to yourself, that's okay. I know this.

563
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: If your Pittsburgh, if you're Cleveland in Baltimore, you're happy

564
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: to see big Roethlisberger come back. You're good. You're good

565
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: with that. They got they feel all right, So don't

566
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Speaker 1: don't be talking about like Cleveland is just all that

567
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: they had a year. Baker, Yeah, boy, he don't come

568
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: back to night. But since Cincinnati got they got a lot.

569
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: They got a lot of work to do. They gotta

570
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: get their old line right too. But yeah, Joe Burrows

571
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: is up and coming. But uh no, Pittsburgh was. They

572
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: were a good team last year. They won games. It's

573
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Speaker 1: hard to win games no matter, especially when you like

574
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: like you said, they didn't have a running game, they

575
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Speaker 1: couldn't block Big you said Big being elbow was messed up.

576
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: And how many games do they win last year? What

577
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: they went laughing? This team was exposed in the second

578
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: half of the year. Big Cowboys almost beat them with

579
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. Okay, so double if you want to believe,

580
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: if you want to, let you lie to yourself, Danny

581
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: get got ahead. But this team, in this organization, when

582
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: you look at the salary cap and you look at

583
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: the cap issues and the free agents they have, they're

584
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to even put together the same

585
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: team they had last year. And they've got an identity

586
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: crisis and a quarterback who doesn't want to change. That's well,

587
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: we're sitting over here to we we are a podcast

588
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys who was seven to nine. We over

589
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: here critique in the team that went thirteen and three

590
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: or twelve and four, talking about what they need to do.

591
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we were we wouldn't get anything week quarterback.

592
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: I got an aging quarterback. We don't have a quarterback.

593
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: We don't have we got more year, man, we got

594
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: at least every week week we got one. What are

595
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: you talking about? We got what we got, all right,

596
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: So okay, so let us move on. Since we've talking

597
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, all right, we talked about the show that

598
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: we talked about quarterbacks. So we've gone through dak Alex Smith,

599
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Speaker 1: Big Ben. Now let's talk about Russell Wilson. There's been

600
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that's been put out there, Okay,

601
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and I don't know how much

602
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: division is true because it's some of the silly season

603
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: and people just need stories. I saw where there was

604
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: one one tweet and a bunch of things said, oh,

605
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: Seahawks shopping Russell Wilson, and then they attributed Diana Russini

606
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: of ESPN as one of the people who said it.

607
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: But then Diana Russini comes out with a tweet a

608
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: little bit later on, it says that the Seahawks were

609
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: getting phone calls and they weren't making them, that people

610
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: were calling them about Russell Wilson. So trying to figure

611
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: that whole situation out. But we understand this. Russell Wilson

612
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: thinks that he is a better quarterback and being held

613
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: back by the Seahawks. That much is real clear. And

614
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: to hear some people tell it, Russ thinks that he

615
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: is a top quarterback, a top ten quarterback all time,

616
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: and that they're hurting him. That they are hurting him.

617
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: So Russey, it seems like Russell suited up on himself

618
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: that hey, man, I need to be cooking and you

619
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: holding me back, So I need to go somewhere and

620
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: that gonna hold me back. Your thoughts that Russ Russe

621
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Speaker 1: may think he's a better chef than what he is. There,

622
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Speaker 1: M craig, Listen, if you look at the history of

623
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, all right, he got the right to think

624
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: that he is as good as anybody that he's seen

625
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: on TV or that is playing right now. If you

626
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: think about Russell over the last but six seven years,

627
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: every year we've been saying, man, look at the stuff

628
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson is doing. He's been to two Super Bowls.

629
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Speaker 1: He did throw the picks, you know, for them to

630
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: lose and Pete Carrolson to ran that ball. But I mean, yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: he lost it. He lost. He's been, he's been. He's

632
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: been at the top of the game and one of

633
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: the top quarterbacks in the league for the extended period

634
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: of time. So let's not act like he don't have

635
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 1: the right to say, you know what, I think if

636
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Speaker 1: I had this, this and that, I would be better,

637
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: My numbers will be better, and our team would be

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Speaker 1: going a little further. If that's what he believes, then

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I don't know about top ten

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Speaker 1: all time. I don't know. I didn't hear him saying,

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Speaker 1: well but but I mean, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league today, he's at the top of

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Speaker 1: the list. He's not number one, but he's in that

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Speaker 1: top in shellona of guys. Look say it with your chest,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. I couldn't he and my guys out here

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Speaker 1: saying I need this, I need that I'm top ten.

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Speaker 1: But to me, man, if you think about it, if

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Speaker 1: you look about when he was going to those back

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Speaker 1: to back super Bowls when they were rolling back in

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Speaker 1: the day, when they were rolling, he wasn't cooking like that.

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Speaker 1: He had an amazing defense. He had the legion of

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot, And yeah, Russell Wilson made plays

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Speaker 1: here there, But I don't think back when they were

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Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls, we would have considered him a top

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Speaker 1: ten quarterback at the time. So for me, I'm saying

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Speaker 1: he was cooking when he had that great defense. After that,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen much from Russell Wilson. We've seen stats,

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Speaker 1: We've seen him put up numbers and have an MVP

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to put this team on the

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Speaker 1: a stat pattern for me. So for him to go

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Speaker 1: really agree with him too much on that one. When

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Speaker 1: He's going around baking plays and trying to extend plays.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it works sometimes, but also he gives himself

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Speaker 1: it's all on the offensive line. I think he did

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Speaker 1: them a disservice by kind of throwing them under the

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Speaker 1: bus and putting that out there in the media. I

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Speaker 1: But overall for him to say that, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: And I think the Seahawks should you know, listen to

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Speaker 1: calls from people on him. Oh man, it was strong.

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Speaker 1: Their old line has been garbage for a while though.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, I can understand this frustration. They've been

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Speaker 1: the texts, and like every year, it's something with them

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to get their old line,

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Speaker 1: you know, in shape and making Russell what's to happen?

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Speaker 1: They just have not been able to do it. Man,

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, I harken back to that old line newly,

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Speaker 1: another issue about their offensive line is they haven't hit.

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Speaker 1: shot at trying to improve their offensive line. So they're

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Speaker 1: not taking care of the position they drafted wrong, and

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Speaker 1: Russ has every reason to be upset about that. But

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Speaker 1: to me, it's really clear that the quarterback and the

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Speaker 1: to address maybe the season after this, but I don't

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Speaker 1: to that is Amari Cooper a top ten wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: That was the question asked, So Church, I'll start with

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Speaker 1: you on us God for me, honestly, man, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a great wide receiver. He runs good routes and

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Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Uh, he's dependable, but well, you know,

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Speaker 1: home games he's dependable. I'm gonna have to say he

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Speaker 1: is not a top ten receiver. Uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it has to do with the Taylor

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Speaker 1: ball enough, or he's not winning on his routes enough.

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Speaker 1: But for what I see, he just doesn't jump off

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Speaker 1: the tape like other receivers do in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: can name ten, you know, at the top of the

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Speaker 1: noggin that would that I believe are better than the

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Speaker 1: Mark Cooper. So you know, I give him top fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but top ten as of right now, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to say, no, I'm not have to pass on my boy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Church. I was sitting here counting them

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Speaker 1: up right now and I got I got to ten

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly, real quick. So now, I mean, you just

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Speaker 1: start listening to Metcalfs and Hopkins and Adams, and you

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Speaker 1: can the list can just continue to go on, and

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Speaker 1: you just like Mark Cooper is behind these guys. I

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Speaker 1: don't think his offensive coordinator is doing the many favors

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Speaker 1: his quarterback. You know, being injured also didn't do many

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Speaker 1: favors this season, and his health also hasn't done him

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Speaker 1: many favors. But I think if he's one hundred percent healthy,

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Speaker 1: has Dak Prescott. But that's a right now. Now he's

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Speaker 1: not top ten. He's a solid receiver, but he just

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Speaker 1: hasn't showed up in those big time moments enough for

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Speaker 1: him that. It's close. It's close, all right, because because

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Speaker 1: get better. But he I think he has the big

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Speaker 1: playability just like a Mark Cooper, and you can get

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Speaker 1: him the ball a bunch of different ways, all right.

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Speaker 1: This was my top nine. Here, DeVante Adams, DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: Then I sat here and I looked at where Cooper

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Speaker 1: not enough production. It was just one year. But but

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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, pretty heck of a talented wide receiver either,

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Speaker 1: And why I think I can put Cooper in this list.

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Speaker 1: I look at what happened to Oakland when he laughs

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Speaker 1: clearly saw what he did. And when he came to

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Speaker 1: Cowboys three and five, you just fire Jason Garrett Cooper

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Speaker 1: comes on this football team. They end up making the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he ends up making a Pro Bowl. So I've watched

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Speaker 1: a guy who's helped save a franchise. Is season here, Danny,

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Speaker 1: you are one right, and you banged it all year long.

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Speaker 1: They do not utilize this player the way he should

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Speaker 1: be used for one hundred million dollars they give him.

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Speaker 1: So is he a top ten receiver? I think he's

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Speaker 1: a top ten receiver. I don't think he's used in

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Speaker 1: a way that we see. You know, these other guys

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Speaker 1: at Adams and Hopkins and Hill and Evans. They just

849
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: don't utilize him in this fashion. And to me, it

850
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: makes my mind boggle. And I look at Keenan Allen too,

851
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: I think I see Keenan Allen and I think Amari

852
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Cooper a lot of the same way, where these are

853
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: two guys who who are are really sensational and you

854
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: kind of look at their overall careers. They've been consistent

855
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: in terms of production, but they've also battled health issues

856
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, who's the receiver out there in Tennessee?

857
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: Is it A J. Brownj AJ Brown and Corey Davis. Yeah, listen,

858
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: as of last year, I want to put them to

859
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: them too, write up there with a Mark Cooper maybe

860
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: one of them ahead. They had some they made some

861
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: really big plays and when you turn on sports in

862
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: and you turned on the games, you're seeing them really

863
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: impact in the game. I would be interested to see

864
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: what his win percentage is like when he's going on

865
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: routes like I want to see if he's really getting

866
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: open like that or guys are just putting them hands

867
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: on him. That's something I really want to see when

868
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: it comes to a Mark Cooper out there. When you

869
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: talk about Brown and one reason why I didn't put

870
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: a J. Brown in there versus Cooper and then Keenan

871
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: Allen and some of these other guys. I look over

872
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: at the career production here. Brown's done had two really

873
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: nice gears and it's almost the same ky. But I

874
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: did put DK Metcalf here, and he's had a short career,

875
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: but my gosh, that guy's I love some Dk Metcalf

876
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: and what he can bring. And AJ Brown's a good

877
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: player too. But that's one reason why I put a

878
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: guy like Cooper in there ahead of Brown is when

879
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: I look at the overall production. I mean, guys, he's

880
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: say Jason Gerett's job. The Cowboys ended up going on

881
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: that fantastic run when he got here, and then you

882
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: look at the Raiders and what happened to them. The

883
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: Raiders are still looking for a receiver, a number one guy.

884
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean he was Nelson Aguilar was ended up being

885
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: a guy that they were counting on last year. So

886
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper can play, I just don't feel like he's

887
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: gotten enough chances. And that's one where I got to

888
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: give you Danny all the credit, because you kept banging

889
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: this home. Why is this guy getting the ball? Why

890
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: isn't he getting the ball like a Stefan Gigs is

891
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: getting the ball in Buffalo. It's just a problem with

892
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and how we have issues with the way.

893
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: They've given a hundred million, ninety million dollars to Zeke

894
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: and Cooper and they don't give him the ball enough.

895
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Is he better than Nope? Yes, I mean we we No, No,

896
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: that took them. Continue to talk about him saving Jason

897
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Gear you know that. Don't tell he been clapped out

898
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: Church what you call him away game disappeared? Come on, yeah,

899
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: let's not listen. He made some big time plays that season,

900
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: but we've had the knock for him injury wise, and

901
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: when he plays away games. My thing, my thing with feeling,

902
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to theelings. It's the way I

903
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: talk about guys like Calar Robinson when they give you

904
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: the when they give you the ball, then you go

905
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: to the opportunities. They don't give him enough of the

906
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: ball that that's that's my issue with it. All. Right now,

907
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: you got me sitting up here looking at the stats here,

908
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: and where do I get to feeling feeling here? What's

909
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: seventy four for one oh eight No, yeah, feeling one

910
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: hundred and eight targets right here? Look at it for

911
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: him feeling one hundred eight targets, seventy four catches, nine

912
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four yards um where touched him up.

913
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: I think he had like eleven some TD fourteen yeah, yeah, yeah,

914
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: So listen to make sure we get the whole context

915
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: of feelings, feelings stats. Any playing across from Justin Jefferson

916
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: and they throw the ball, I mean any they actually

917
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: they actually throw him the ball. So we're looking at

918
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: the targets here and I'm trying to find I'm trying

919
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: to find Cooper here. Okay, I'm aorry Cooper targets one

920
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: thirty ninety two catches, had fourteen I had had one

921
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: thousand one or fourteen yards five touchdowns, So have more

922
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: catches and feeling had more more targets and feeling had

923
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: more yards and feeling feeling had him in touchdowns almost

924
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: double Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait?

925
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Who was last year? Who's throwing the Cooper last year?

926
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: Feeling at least had Kirk Cousins. He had a legitian quarterback?

927
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: What what? What? No? Wait? How many times do we

928
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: look at the game and say the man wasn't even

929
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: in the game. He's on the sideline, all right, So

930
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: we can talk about he didn't get targets a lot.

931
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: But even when Jason Garrett was there on fourth down.

932
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: We was like, why is Cooper not in the game?

933
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's not pump the brakes a

934
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: little bit, all right. The man still had one hundred

935
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: and thirty targets. He had. Feeling had almost three times

936
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: as many touchdowns as uh as as a Mark Cooper.

937
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: Young Coop, Yeah, so I don't, I don't, I don't.

938
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. All right, Feeling is

939
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: better than the Mark Cooper if we're going about what

940
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: they put on the field, especially last year, and last

941
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: year we had Andy Dalton, we had double g we

942
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: had you sat up there. They talked about the old line, right,

943
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: so now you're forgetting the very thing you've been beating

944
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: up on the old line. Now, don't count. Now, don't

945
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: count before, go to ther go to the You got

946
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: a little something on there right there, dude, he said,

947
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: the old line. Don't count. Now, go to the year before, though,

948
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: go to the year before and look at Theeler and

949
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: the Mark Cooper. All right, let me let me sit

950
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: up here and go go and let us on the

951
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: fly was battling with Stefan Dicks too, and he was balling.

952
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: Now he was bawling, is real deal? Is the real deal?

953
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Like it was the real deal. He just don't get

954
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: the credit for giving this credit. Knew he knew. We

955
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: try to take the credit away from to try to

956
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: hype up with Mark Cooper when we have been talking

957
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: about the man not showing up on the way games

958
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: for two seasons. Kikay, you want, you want twenty nineteen,

959
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. All right, So twenty nineteen Feeling had six touchdowns,

960
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighteen yards and caught thirty pass Yes,

961
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: because I had him on my family, Okay, okay, alright, alright, alright, alright.

962
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: He was ready for that too. He was ready. He knew,

963
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: he knew. Yeah, I see you knew it. Yeah, Alachun.

964
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper had that year hold on year. Marian Cooper

965
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: was real. He made the pull Bowl. He made he

966
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: made the pour Bowl. So so let me just go ahead,

967
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen you want twenty nineteen? Twenty nineteen Cooper had

968
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns one thousand, one hundred eighty nine yards, caught

969
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: seventy nine passes. That good enough for you. Answer your questions,

970
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Answer your question. So Feeland was hurt most of the year,

971
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: had six You said six touchdowns and Cooper had ain't.

972
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm just checking all right. Listen, Feeling to

973
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: me is better than Cooper his stats was saying, when

974
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: they play in the full season, just he just is, okay,

975
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: if that's what you I'm not fighting. I'm not fighting

976
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: you man. You have your ideas. I have my ideas.

977
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of you of doing this show. Are

978
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: picking on your faces football team? Who are you picking

979
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: on your faces football team? Next year? Cooper or Feeling?

980
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: Who we got that quarterback? We got that quarterback? I'll

981
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: be trying to go for I'll probably take steff on

982
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Dicks and I'll probably take you too. Fight here? What round?

983
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: What round? Am I? Here? There's a whole bunch of

984
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: things and factors. And when I go into that how

985
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: thirteen dancing again? He dancing? But yeah, tell me who

986
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback is? So let us move on to another

987
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: topic here that that we had. Can we run out

988
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: of time? Can we run out of times? I try

989
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: to hear, let you be, Let you have your jolly's here.

990
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get all the topics you brought in here,

991
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: all right, trying trying to fix this defense what's more

992
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: important the back or the front mccraig, what's more important

993
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: here fixing this d I'm going to front end, man.

994
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: We got you know, listen, the big thing. You got

995
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: to be able to done it. We talked about this

996
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season last year. If you

997
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: cannot stop the run, you cannot have a successful defense.

998
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: If they can run the ball on you five yards

999
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: to carry, then you have no shot and winning that game.

1000
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: And that came to fouitions. This season, we watched it happen.

1001
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: We watched Cleveland come in there and mash it down.

1002
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: I throw for like three hundred yards, and Washington did

1003
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: the same thing. A team after team just came in

1004
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: and punished this in the ring game. So I think

1005
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: it's the front. Yeah, I'm about to go with you

1006
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: on this one. I believe it's the front end. Even

1007
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: though I've been in the back end, you know, my

1008
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: whole career. The front end is it's where it's at.

1009
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I believe that ever since I

1010
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: saw that Bowl with E line, them boys, when they

1011
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: had you know, straighthand Tuck and all and Canty and

1012
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: all those boys on the D line. They made Tom

1013
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Brady's life hell and that Super Bowl, and I think

1014
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: from that pulling on, people have started to build their

1015
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: defenses from the front end to the bat because, like

1016
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: mcraize said, if you can't stop the run, if you

1017
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: let guys just go straight up the gut on you,

1018
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: we've seen what happened this year is an example for

1019
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: our defense. We were historically bad because offenses were able

1020
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: to pick their poison against him, because we want to

1021
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: run up the middle for one hundred and fifty yards

1022
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: or what do you want to throw the ball in

1023
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: the outside. We weren't able to stop either of those,

1024
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: and that results in a historically bad defense. So overall,

1025
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I think the front end, the front seven, has got

1026
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: to be the strength of your defense. It gets after

1027
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback, It rushes these guys up, and that's what

1028
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: causes turnovers. When quarterbacks are overthrown or you get tip

1029
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: passes and all that stuff, that's how you get turnovers,

1030
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: and that's how you become a better defense. And I

1031
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 1: think it starts with the D line, and that's something

1032
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: that we got to get better at because right now,

1033
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean we got D Law, but other than that,

1034
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. And even D Law had had a

1035
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: rough season last year, so we got to get that

1036
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: front end taking care. But I believe you build your

1037
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: defense from the front to the back. Hall of Fame

1038
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: War and Sap said it best. The back don't work

1039
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: without the front. That's exact quote. Back don't work without

1040
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: the front. And this defense a lot of it. And

1041
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: you go back and think about the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know,

1042
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: this is about the steel curtain of what they did

1043
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: at the front, and then you know they had some

1044
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: tremendous guys like Mel Blunt and Donnie Shell in the back.

1045
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Even with the Cowboys that their Super Bowl teams in

1046
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: the nineties, they were very good up front. They had

1047
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: a good back too, But it does start up front.

1048
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn as a D line coach at the ten spot.

1049
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Cowboys, there's not really a deep you know,

1050
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: there's no Aaron Donald up there. There's there's no big

1051
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: pass rushers, there's no Boast so there, so Chase Young

1052
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: in that top ten for the Cowboys. So the corner

1053
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: position will probably be rated higher than anybody on the

1054
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: D line. But I also look at this for the Cowboys,

1055
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: this is going to be probably a two year process

1056
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: of trying to put together all the things that Dan

1057
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: and It is gonna want within this defense to try

1058
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: and to try and make it make it work. So

1059
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: you definitely got to look at the front and maybe

1060
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: that's where they start off a free agency and maybe

1061
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: you look at Leonard Williams who's a free agent with

1062
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: the Giants. I don't know, but you definitely got to

1063
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: look at the front and try to fix it. But

1064
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: at ten right now, if they stay at tim, you're

1065
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: probably gonna have an ability to draft a guy that's

1066
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: more highly rated in the back end, a J. C. Horne,

1067
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: a Patrick's Utan Junior, those kind of guys. Yeah, I

1068
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: think you're right now. It's gonna take a little bit

1069
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: of time, maybe maybe two to three years, because like

1070
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: we said earlier, man the carpenter needs his tools. And

1071
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: when Dan Quinn was rolling and us in Seattle with

1072
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: those boys and leading the boom, he had guys like

1073
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 1: kJ Wright who can cover as a linebacker. He had

1074
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: Wagner who was sideline the sideline and could tackle anything.

1075
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: He had Cliff Avril, those boys, Earl Thomas controlling the

1076
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: back end, the punisher Camp Chancellor in their solid corners,

1077
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: with Sherman and Brown. He had a lot of tools

1078
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: at his display and he was able to ain't that

1079
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: simple defense where it's just like, look is he the

1080
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Cover three or it's Cover one. We need y'all to

1081
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: go out there and eat And he had the tools,

1082
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: he had the players to do so. And I don't

1083
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: think we have that specifically right now on this defensive

1084
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: side of the bar. So I think we need to

1085
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: hit in this draft and maybe again next year in

1086
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: draft the free agency before we really get to see

1087
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's full defense on display. But hopefully he'll get

1088
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: to that point because if we go out there and

1089
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: get ramshacked this whole next year, man, they might blow

1090
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: up the whole ship. So we'll see. Well, I gotta

1091
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: ask y'all then, So who are y'all not comfortable with

1092
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: right now that's currently that we consider to be a

1093
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: starter next year, that's currently on the roster, Because I

1094
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: mean two to three years you're looking at needing another linebacker.

1095
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: It would it sounds like we're gonna need another corner

1096
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: or safety and someone on the D line. And we

1097
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: said that right now we have Lve, we got Jayle Smith,

1098
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: we got Tank, we got Randy Gregory. We got Thomas,

1099
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: and we have Dicks, and we got Brown. So so

1100
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: who is it that needs to leave. I'm trying to

1101
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: figure out we all needs to be replaced before you

1102
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: guys say, all right, dan Quinn has enough now after

1103
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: two years, he has who he wants in every position,

1104
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: and now who should be successful for his defense? I

1105
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: think we need and I don't know you can either

1106
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: go one A or one BE on this, but I

1107
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: think we need an interior defensive lineman. And I think

1108
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: we need somebody in that linebacker cord that can cover

1109
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, back in that Seattle defense,

1110
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: when they had kJ right on that tight end that

1111
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: allowed Cam Chancellor to free up and kind of be

1112
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: that low rap player, that instinctful player that can either

1113
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: rob slants or punish people on the run. We need

1114
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: someone like that that can cover. And right now, our

1115
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: linebackers are a liability and coverage and we've getting They've

1116
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: been getting exposed all last year when it comes to

1117
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: running backs isolating them. So I think we need somebody

1118
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: that can cover on that front end side, but defensive linement,

1119
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: defensive interior defensive line as well as a big need

1120
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: or we're gonna get gash left and right. Danny, I've

1121
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: said this before. They need help at all three levels,

1122
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: at all three levels. How they aside to get that help,

1123
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be very interesting. And that's also comes

1124
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: in that whole Dak Prescott contract where man, if you

1125
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: could get that thing signed, then it's going to free

1126
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: up some dollars for you to go out and get

1127
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: some more to get some more help here, Barry. You've

1128
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: hit on a bunch of things. We've spoke about Ricardo Allen,

1129
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: who's a free agent who Quinn had in Atlanta that

1130
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: he needs somebody to quarterback the back end of the defense.

1131
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: And people bring up Donovan Wilson and I've got nothing

1132
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: to gets Donovan Wilson. I think Donovan Wilson could be

1133
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: a player that can help you, but you he's not

1134
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: that guy. He's not the Allen, he's not the Earl

1135
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: Thomas guy. You gotta try to find that guy. You

1136
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: already talked about the linebackers. I mean, dude, I'm not

1137
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: ready to sit up here and say, hey, all right,

1138
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: here's Tristan Hill as a starter. No, he's coming off

1139
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: an ACL He's not ready to go Nevin Gallimore had

1140
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: a nice rookie year, but I'm not ready to say, hey,

1141
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: look this is that guy they've got. They've got to

1142
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: fix those issues right up front there. And to me,

1143
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sign Aldon Smith back. I don't know if

1144
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith is going to fix his defense, and the

1145
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: kind of price tag that Alden Smith may may may

1146
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: ask for. I would rather spend that money on a

1147
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: guy who's an interior linement, like a Leonard Williams, and

1148
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: plug him up in here and see what he can

1149
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: help me do. Caldon Smith, I think if we bring

1150
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: Aldon Smith in there, I think that's just holding back

1151
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and not letting Randy Gregory reach his full potential.

1152
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: I think he can give us a better option than

1153
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: than Ada Smith out there. So I say we let

1154
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: him ride. And I listen, and I'm with y'all. We

1155
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: need to get the defense fixed, all right, even though

1156
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: I talking about old line, I really want to see

1157
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: that get fixed. Dan Quinn needs his tools. But y'all

1158
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: remember when we listen, all these players that dan Quinn had,

1159
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: all right, and we like, we need to get he

1160
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: had this person when he was there. He had this

1161
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: person year at that person we're talking about in some

1162
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: cases all time great players, all right, So you know

1163
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: him realistically being able to get those type of players

1164
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: in each one of those positions, I don't think it's

1165
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: that likely. So okay, we have to look at Sequin

1166
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: has the fine players that really it's his scheme versus

1167
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: trying to hey, replace the Earl Thomas, replace the camp Chancellor,

1168
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: replace the Richard Sermon, because at the end of the day,

1169
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: when those guys retire, most of those guys are gonna

1170
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: be all for the Hall of Fame, both because they

1171
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: had those type of careers. So we got to be

1172
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: realistic against saying these are the guys that we're trying

1173
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: to find. But at the same time, he did some

1174
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: of those things in Atlanta where you had a Grady

1175
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: Jackson up front on the d line, you know, and

1176
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: that was a productive player, said Allen was a guy

1177
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: who was in safety, was running things back there. So

1178
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: we may have to kind of look more at the

1179
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta model of what he was doing because the GM,

1180
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: Thomas and mitrall put a lot of resources on offense

1181
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: and spent a lot of draft capital on the offense.

1182
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I you know, we spoke about before.

1183
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you try to find who are some guys that

1184
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: used to play for him to kind of understand the

1185
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: scheme a little bit. But that's that to me is

1186
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: where where they gotta go. Want to touch another topic

1187
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: here before we get out of here, that you guys

1188
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: are brought up here? Um, who plays opposite of d

1189
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: Law in your opinion? Where do you go? McCray, Yeah,

1190
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: we're perfect in your world. In your world, in my

1191
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: perfect world, we would have t J. Watt opposite. Uh,

1192
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you of the Law. You know the

1193
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: fact that we actually could have had him is crazy.

1194
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, in my perfect world, that's what I'm putting

1195
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: out there. But what we have now, I got faith

1196
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: in Randy Gregor if he has a full, healthy season

1197
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: and he's able to stay on the right track. I

1198
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: have faith in his potential and what he's able to do.

1199
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: But perfect world knew it t J. Watt all day.

1200
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: That was that was That was what I was gonna say. Yeah,

1201
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: in perfect world, you gotta go with t J. Watt.

1202
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe even a shack buried out there, but without being

1203
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: it perfect. I think like I'm with McCray on this one,

1204
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: I think we got what we need and Randy Gregory,

1205
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: I think towards the end of the season he started

1206
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: to kind of to go in the straight right direction

1207
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: as far as trending in the right direction. The guy

1208
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: was getting sacked, he was forcing fumbles. I think he's

1209
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: long and wiry and able to do a lot of

1210
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: things that that defensive position and position. And so I

1211
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: think when we got what we need out there, and

1212
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: maybe we just need some death pieces. Now I'm with

1213
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: you on that, I'd let Smith walk up with Gregory

1214
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: and hope that in a contract year Durance Armstrong becomes

1215
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: one holacious player, all right, who's a third linebacker opposite

1216
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: LV and Jalen Smith? First of all, Goad Church, Now

1217
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: you got it, You got him correct. It's the perfect world,

1218
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: you know. I'm going on my LSU got Devin White,

1219
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: uh that that that's very easy for me. It's a young,

1220
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: high potential talent, and we saw what he could do

1221
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Right now, Man, I don't know,

1222
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: because it just depends to me on what type of

1223
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: defense that you're running, right because in my in my mind,

1224
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna have three linebackers out there

1225
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: that often. So I think you need a really really

1226
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: good nickelback. You need a guy who can get in

1227
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: there and make some tackles, feel some gaps, and you

1228
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: need a guy who can cover. So I think we

1229
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: just have to find a guy who's able to do

1230
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: all that because there's gonna be a lot of eleven

1231
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: personnel coming around here, so we won't be seeing a

1232
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: lot of base defense from me. Perfect world, I'm going

1233
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: with that same Tampa team, but I'm gonna go with

1234
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: the other linebacker, Lavontay David. Um. I know he's a

1235
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: little bit older thirty one, but the job he did

1236
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: on Kelsey in that Super Bowl, I mean it was

1237
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: it was rarely seen. I mean you've seen Kelsey destroy

1238
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: teams left and right during that playoff, running, during the

1239
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: running Kansas City. But the job he was able to

1240
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: do man made me prove proof to me that he

1241
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: can he can go out there and cover with the

1242
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: best of them. So perfect world, I would go Lavontae David.

1243
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: But what I would look forward to and that, like

1244
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: you said in MCRAI, I don't think it's gonna be

1245
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: a lot of three linebackers on the field. They do

1246
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: a lot more Nickel, So I would go with that

1247
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker safety nickel guy out of Notre Dame. I

1248
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: don't want to butcher his name because I don't know.

1249
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to say what I think his name is.

1250
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to butcher it. But they got a

1251
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: linebacker safety, kind of hybrid gay come out of Notre

1252
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: Dame who I think would fit perfect in that system.

1253
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: A part of me wonders, what if they kept a

1254
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson and you could have paid him decent money

1255
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: and kept a guy like that on your football team

1256
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: and Kansas City clearly figured out what to do with

1257
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: him and how to use him in Steve Spagnola helped

1258
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator, plugged him in the bright proper places,

1259
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: and they helped when when a championship for Kansas City

1260
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: and made two Super Bowls. So I think I think

1261
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: about that player is somebody that you draft, um, you

1262
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: know on a third day. Look at what they got

1263
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: out of Hitchens. Um. I just don't think that person's

1264
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: on the roster right now. But I think that's what

1265
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: they've got to do, and they have done a decent

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Speaker 1: job as an organization of drafting linebackers, despite some some

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Speaker 1: people who are frustrated with Jalen Smith. When you think

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Speaker 1: about what Jalen Smith was as an injured guy and

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Speaker 1: the fact that this guy ended up making a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl in his career, that's a success. Layton VANDERESHI got

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Speaker 1: they draft from the first round who ended up having

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, making a Pro Bowl. So they have

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Speaker 1: an understanding of a linebacker, and I think they'll be

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Speaker 1: okay in terms of trying to figure that out through

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Speaker 1: free agency or the draft or right now that player

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Speaker 1: is not on the team. Opposite of digs at the

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Speaker 1: cornerback spot. Where we're going, guys, the simple ideal world.

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Speaker 1: I'm going with church this guy, my man, Jalen Ramsey

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Speaker 1: ideal throw him on the roster and we automatically much

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Speaker 1: better team. And that that makes it really really easy

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Speaker 1: for us. But since we're not, you guys are gonna

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Speaker 1: kill me for this. But you're right, church Man, that

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Speaker 1: draft pick at cornerback, that man, I gotta I gotta

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Speaker 1: go with him. I got I would go. I would

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Speaker 1: go to rookies out there. I think that's that's our

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get better at the cornerback and and yes, um,

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Speaker 1: so we have those guys on our roster for a

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Speaker 1: long time. Hopefully we get lucky enough like we do

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Speaker 1: with dig like we did with Digs, and he falls

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Speaker 1: to the second round after we pick our offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: This is true. This is true, perfect world. I gotta

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Speaker 1: go with the dog Jayalen Ramsey. I think he's the

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Speaker 1: best corner in the National Football League right now. But overall,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go with your boy from LSU,

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Speaker 1: Pat Peterson, Man. I think we can get him on

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Speaker 1: like a like a team friendly deal. I think he

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Speaker 1: can still run. I think he can still run a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I think he would be if he

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Speaker 1: came on this team, he would be the best corner

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Speaker 1: on our team for at least one year. So I

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Speaker 1: gotta go Pat p on that one and see what

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Speaker 1: we can do with that. Okay, Church, Okay, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: You know you Ramsey is Ramsey's your gold standard rolling

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Speaker 1: right now there at the cornerback spot. I went with J. C. Horne,

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Speaker 1: the quarter out of South Carolina, And I think back

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Speaker 1: to what Bill Walsh did to build up his forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers team that ended up winning Super Bowl sixteen.

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Speaker 1: They ended up drafting Ronnie A. Lott, Eric Wright and

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Speaker 1: Carlton Williamson and grew up all three guys and they

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Speaker 1: ended up being that back in for the Niners, which

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Speaker 1: ended up winning Super Bowl sixteen, Super Bowl nineteen, and

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Speaker 1: we saw Ronnie A. Lott is now a member of

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So that's what I

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Speaker 1: would do. I would look at the youth and say, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll do that. Um Jimmy Johnson, Jimmy Johnson went with

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Speaker 1: youth with with Larry Brown and Kevin Kevin Pup Smith

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Speaker 1: and he grew those guys out. Now, they were also

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Speaker 1: helped because they had a good front. Jimmy built good

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Speaker 1: fun but but but that you can win with some

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Speaker 1: youthful guys in the back to go make some mistakes,

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Speaker 1: but you can work with a little bit. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think that free safety, if somebody that Quinn

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Speaker 1: can trust, who can run his system, is important to

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Speaker 1: make sure you can help those those young corners out.

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Speaker 1: What about defensive tackle? Spot got Nevin Gallimore as a

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Speaker 1: starter here, who would you like to see on the

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Speaker 1: other side of him? I think we can all agree

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Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald will be the guy in the world,

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Speaker 1: that would be who it is. But if not, I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to go look at in Dominican Sue. Uh. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he's been able to make an impact, you know, pretty

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Speaker 1: much on every team that he's that he's been on,

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Speaker 1: and he brings that nastiness to the defensive line that

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Speaker 1: we need. So that that would be a guy that

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at. Yeah, to me, I'm with you on

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Speaker 1: that one. Um, definitely. You know Aaron Donald, you know,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame first ballot, without a question, so he'd

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Speaker 1: be in there. But since this is uh, this is

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Speaker 1: the real world, I would have to go to Dominican Sue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen this guy. He's a mercenary out there.

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Speaker 1: He goes for the highest bidder and free agency signs

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Speaker 1: maybe a one or maybe a two year deal with

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Speaker 1: a team, but he gives them their services. And for me,

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Speaker 1: this guy is nasty. He gets under people's skin. It

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Speaker 1: don't matter if you're a Hall of Fame quarterback or not.

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Speaker 1: I mean we saw what he was doing to Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers doing the playoffs. He was talking all types of noise,

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Speaker 1: and that's the type of guy you want on your

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Speaker 1: defensive line. That's the type of guy you want on

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Speaker 1: your defense, somebody who's nasty and just doesn't care about anything.

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Speaker 1: And that's the type of guy one on my defensive line,

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Speaker 1: especially in the middle. You remember who Sue replaced there

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Speaker 1: in Tampa, Gerry McCoy exactly so, and who ended up

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Speaker 1: getting General McCoy services good old Cowboys, Cowboys. Cowboys bet

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Speaker 1: that lout on him and that dude couldn't even get

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Speaker 1: out of train a cat. So yeah, yeah, let's not

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Speaker 1: make that mistake again. If you're the Cowboys, Let's not

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Speaker 1: do that again. If you, Sue would be be good

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Speaker 1: and a guy who could possibly help the younger players

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Speaker 1: at Tristan Hill and the Nevin Gallimore become goods players.

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Speaker 1: All right, look, that's uh, we're six minutes over our

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Speaker 1: time here, so let's let Chris Beam, our producer, get

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