1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: All that realization came up, like right at the top 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: of that to the top of the rope, when I 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: was like standing up tall and you're seeing all the 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: people start standing up with me. It was like it 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: was like coming to a realization to the people as well, 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: the swell of like emotion of like wow, I'm here, 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: now you're made. 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Even introducing the hosts'm wrestling within Freddy Chef Died and 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Furready Frience Tunor. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Freddy 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: with me as always his Jeff I. We have an 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: amazing guest today. That's why I'm speaking so quickly so 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: we get as much time as possible. Let's start the show, 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: all right, everybody, We have a fantastic guest today. He 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 2: is fresh off his victory at AW Dynasty. We have 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: the ae W World Champion, Swerved Strickland, who on this 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: very show prophesied this very event and he's with us now. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. How are you, sir? Thank 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: you very much, Thank you for having me. 21 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: It's honestly, it still feels weird hearing the title of 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: AW World Champion right now. Still feeling I'm not getting 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: used to say yet, but I got good after it. 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: We're not surprised. We've been waiting for it, baby, We're 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: all used to it already. 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: Amazing. I want to start with this. 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: You had your match with Samoa Joe Well I just 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: got to meet in Chicago, and he's like the nicest 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: dude ever. You just you're in the match, it's the finish, 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: You're on top, the refs counting to three. What the 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: hell's going through your head at that moment? Are you 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: still in it in that moment? Or are you already 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: going Holy shit? 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: It happened. 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: Everything I said just came true. 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: It was it was like if you watch the finish 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: of the match again, all that realization came up, like 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: right at the top of that to the top of 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the rope when I was like standing up tall and 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing all the people start standing up with me. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: It's like they were ready to. It was like it 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: was like comeing too a realization to the people as well, 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and it was like the swell of like emotion of 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: like wow, I'm here, Like I don't even like grab 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: my head at the top. It's just like I can't 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: believe this. I might be able to do this hitting 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the stop. First off, the fact that this show was 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: like four hours and those people were still there, like 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: just like it didn't feel like they were ready to 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: watch a performance. They're ready to see victory. They were 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: ready for that home team to win. And that's the 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: emotion I kind of wanted to carry on to that. 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: It's like, you're not going to outperform well last bring 54 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and Brian Danielsen and hats off to them. That's impossible 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: task as it is, but it's just like, Okay, what 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: kind of a different emotion that we can evoke that 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the show is not able to. And 58 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: then I feel like that we successfully achieved that in itself. 59 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: And Joe was like the perfect like tighten of a 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: villain and the opposite to be put in that place 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: to do that, you know what I mean? Like I 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: feel like the like hitting that three count, it was 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: like history is made. 64 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: We did it. 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: It was really, it was really special, and really I 66 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: made my mark in history. And I feel like everybody 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: gets into wrestling to try to do that, to try 68 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: to make their mark in the business some way somehow. 69 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: I feel like, now I did it. I did it. 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: My way, and I did it. 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I believe in myself and myself and like not changing, 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: not switching up, not conforming. I did it exactly how 73 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I said I was going to do it. The people 74 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: believed in it. 75 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: You talked about the Osprey Danielson match. You know, there's 76 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: such different matches when you look at them from any 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: sort of like analysis point of view, right, because they're 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: both special, But yours was much more narrative driven. It 79 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: was much more story driven. Joe had planned this seed 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: the week before about about you maybe choking in these 81 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: big moments and not being able to trying to put 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: some sort of doubt in your mind, which I think 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: makes the end of that match so much more special. 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Like you said, when you climb up on the turnbuckle 85 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: and it's like, no, there will be no choking tonight. 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: There will only be stomping on your. 87 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: Chest, which is funny because I almost lost by getting 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: choked out. 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: So kind of parallels for sure. 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: Where are you currently finding inspiration story wise professionally? Are 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: you looking back at the old stuff? Do you look overseas? 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: Are you looking at current stuff? Is it coming from movies, 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: comic books? Is it a combination of everything where you 94 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: find an inspiration for you your character. 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Currently, I would honestly say, I'm painting with another blank 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: canvas again. 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: And so I'm right now, I'm just gathering my tools. 98 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm gathering my instruments to start painting this iteration of Swerve. 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: It's like we seem Swerve as like that hungry predatorial 100 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: figure of like I'm hunting prey to try to get 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: to where I need to go, and I'm taking out 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: every other predator in the in the kingdom and the 103 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: animal kingdom to try to get there. Now it's like, okay, 104 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: you're at the top of the mountain. Where do we 105 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: how do we see him? 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: Now? 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, now we gotta everything we built. We 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: got to kind of scrap that a little bit, but 109 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: we kind of want to keep those core things that 110 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: made me who I am, Like I'm still like the guy. 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: There still has to be a danger about me. And 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: when I'm and when I'm like faced with danger, like 113 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: when I'm faced with like threat, I come back ten 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: times harder because that's the kind of that's what got 115 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: me to where I am. You know, So now right 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: now with Christian coming up with double Nothing, man like 117 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I found my threat. I feel like Swerve's character always 118 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: finds his motivation is inspiration through threat and danger. When 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: he's faced with it, that's where the things like start 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: churning a little bit, and that's where the narrative starts 121 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: being created. So right now I feel like I've swiped 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: it clean. The Patriarch and Christian and then all them 123 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: came through. They set the tone. Now it's like, hmm, 124 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: now I gotta start painting my campus again. Now we 125 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: got to use different instruments though in different utensils to 126 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: really start carving in different like peace. 127 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: It's it's easy to want to beat the hell out 128 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: of Christian easy. He's quick to motivate. 129 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quick, but it's like doubling up is like 130 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe like three weeks away. 131 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: So like, we gotta paint. We gotta get this art going. 132 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: Jeff, go ahead, man, I know I've been hugging all this. 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay. We're both big Swerve marks. This happens. 134 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: You know, this isn't the same when we had some 135 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: of these other creeps on. 136 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: This is our guy. They I appreciate you guys. 137 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: Last time you hear you told us about turning down 138 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: opportunities because you wanted to solely focus on the AW 139 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: World Championship, and now you're the champion of AEW It 140 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: sounds so sweet to say, how do you handle that? 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: And also are you bringing the belt everywhere you go? 142 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: And if not, why not? 143 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: I think that's what people want to see. 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: They want to see why what makes this person important 145 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: walking into parties like that? 146 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: What like why should we pay attention to them? 147 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Why is this like why like in those kind of 148 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: like circles, it's like not wrestling circles either, and that's 149 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: where like we need to be. That's where I need 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: to be now. You know, I kind of got to 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: like like and it's cool. I love like going to 152 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: the conventions and signings and even independent shows. It's just like, 153 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, the places that built me. You know, this 154 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: is the people that supported me, and you want to 155 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: give back to those people and like understand that you're 156 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: there because their investment and you continued over all these years, 157 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, and you kind. 158 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: Of want to pay them back for that. 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: They want to if you want to feel their their 160 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: investment in you was worth it, so coming back and 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: doing those things in the conventions. But also like now 162 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: it's like the crossover stage of like, why is what 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: makes this championship, this person so important to the landscape 164 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: of the world. 165 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: How much pressure do you feel as a champion to 166 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: help bring professional wrestling to the mainstream and to make 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: it not so much alternative entertainment but mainstream entertainment. 168 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: Do you feel pressure to do that? 169 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Or is it just if I'm allowed to paint my 170 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: picture on this canvas, I'll make sure people see it, Like, 171 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: how do you approach that? 172 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: Right? 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: Lately, I've kind of been cooking up things, even before 174 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: the World Championship, I've been cooking up things, and I've 175 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: been planting seeds to see around this time is where 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: they start growing and sprouting. So now it's just like, Okay, 177 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: we've been in the making of for a while, and 178 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: we've been like with investors, We've been with Oscar winners, 179 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: been cooking with like Grammy winners and all these guys 180 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: and all these people in male, female and all these groups. 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Now it's like, all right, we cashed out. Here we 182 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: are and we told you and once again we told them, 183 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: we gave them a reason to invest. 184 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: Now here's the investment paying off. We told you. 185 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: We were going to honor our word. Here we are successful. 186 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: Aw's first African American World Champion, like we said. And 187 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: now it's like, Okay, now we see the vision. Now 188 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: those people see the value. Now these people see the grind, 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the story, the narrative, they see what this is truly about, 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: the story really, and now it's like, Okay, now we 191 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of want to follow into the rabbit hole a 192 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: little bit more because it's scary for people to just 193 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: want to just jump in blindly and something they're not 194 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: familiar with. 195 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh believe me, I know that right. 196 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Right, So it's like giving them that little bit of 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: belief and a little bit of investment, like saying something 198 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: and then honoring that word and now delivering on it. 199 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: And now it's like, Okay, I feel a little bit 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: more comfortable to jump in and follow you down this 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: path that's unfamiliar for us, but at least if we're 202 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: tethered with you, we feel like we're going to be Okay. 203 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: I feel like that's where that crossover is. 204 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: The promise being you becoming champion and the reward being 205 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: you becoming champion. I mean, that's that's that's basically what 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: we're saying. 207 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: So if you go to the when you went to 208 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: the gym this morning, did you bring the belt with 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: you when you get coffee? I do you bring the 210 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: belt with you? 211 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: I've had the belt with me all weekend in Miami. 212 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: That was with like Asat Rockies people who was it 213 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: with Puma and guys like that gave us a bunch 214 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: of free stuff and me with those those like those 215 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: guys that invest in the ASAP Rockies. 216 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 3: This is like people want to see the celebrity. 217 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: I'm like, the celebrity is great to be around and 218 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: like take pictures with, But this is the people that 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: pay the celebrities. Is who you really want to be 220 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: like shaking hands with and do these photo with these 221 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: endorsement people that could like do these things. 222 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: That's the people who went to link with. 223 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: So it's like that's what I was spending my time 224 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: in Miami in the day to day. 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 4: Do you wear the belt around your shoulder? Do you 226 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: wear it around the waist button? Did you wear you 227 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 4: put it around the neck? How do you wear it around? 228 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: I do over the shoulder. I've been having like my 229 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: guests and friends like holding it more than I have. 230 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, my god, the man. 231 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: Here. This is a generous shout. 232 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: My guy Clayton would be all, oh, for sure, I 233 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: wanted to ask you this last time. I just didn't 234 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: get it in there, and I've been beating myself up 235 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 4: about it, so it's I'm excited to get to ask you. 236 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: This is also from my friend Clayton Thomas shout out 237 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: what was your perfect booking for hit Row? Meaning how 238 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: would you have booked the group? 239 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I think when we hit the scene on NXT with 240 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: the North American Championship win, I think that was like 241 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: as hot as you could be at that especially at 242 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: that time. 243 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 3: You know, at that time, I think they had some 244 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: old Joe. 245 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: As NX champion if you do across, so they were 246 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: tied up like there, but I think it was like 247 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Adam Cole and O'Reilly then it was like Joe and. 248 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: Cross and stuff. 249 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: So going from doing what we did to like all 250 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: the way to like getting drafted to SmackDown, I'm like, 251 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: I think that was great, and I just think like, 252 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: once again, it would have been cool to have more time. 253 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: It would have been cool to like jump right into 254 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: like something with like establishing another established faction, not just 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Brionna Brandy not being let go and not just us three. 256 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of magic we could 257 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: have made with a lot of different people there. But 258 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: all these all these things happened for a reason. If 259 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, then you wouldn't see me here as 260 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: aw World champion, So I won't be I wouldn't be 261 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: able to make history without those things falling through. It 262 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: was almost like a blessing in disguise, which is hard 263 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: to see at the time, but it was just like, man, 264 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: there has to be something more and something bigger winning 265 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: for me. 266 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: On the other side of that, I feel like this 267 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: was it. 268 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: You spoke on a collision after you you won the 269 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: championship about sacrifices that had to be made on this journey, 270 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: not just the obstacles that got in your way, but 271 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: self inflicted pain, sacrifice right sacrifice away from family, away 272 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: from loved ones, all to show that this dream isn't 273 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: just a dream, but it's a plan. You're the champion now, 274 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: and I would imagine you have less time as champion, 275 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: with corporate responsibilities and having to meet with investors and 276 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: travel all around and all the public engagement, speaking announcements, 277 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: doing this podcast and the hundred others that you have 278 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: to do. Is do you feel like it's a greater 279 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: sacrifice now but it's still a part of the plan. 280 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: Or have you been able to feel a lot of 281 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: the joys that come with being a champion? Have you 282 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 2: been able to share that with your family? Have you 283 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: been able to show them, Look, this is what happens 284 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: when you do sacrifice. 285 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it gets lonelier at the top as 286 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: you go. It really does. And that's kind of like 287 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: what I was somewhat expecting. And as a lot of 288 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: people don't really understand about these things. It's like, when 289 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: you sacrifice, you sacrifice. You've got to give everything you 290 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: really do. Some people think like you like you could 291 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: have it all. It's like, nah, nah not. If you 292 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: want to like be the epitome in the top of anything, 293 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: you have to give up something because you have to. Like, 294 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: these people that are investing you, investing in you require 295 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: so much from you and your time and your energy, 296 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: in your mind and your spirit and your body. So 297 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: and if you if you want to reap the rewards 298 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: of that, you have to sacrifice a lot. And if 299 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: like you don't sacrifice. It's like, Okay, you can be 300 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: home if you want to, but you just can't have this. 301 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: You can't have the best best of this, And like, 302 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. That's in people. That's why a lot 303 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: of people go like wild. You see, like a lot 304 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: of these celebrities at the top of the game, like 305 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: they go literally wild because there's a lot of people 306 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: try to pull from them and there's not a lot 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: out of that. They don't get that other fulfillment from 308 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: family members, loved ones, true loved ones, true family members, 309 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: like their kids. They don't get a lot of that nurse, 310 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: that true nourishment. On the other side of things, it's 311 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: off balance. It's all this but very minimal of this, 312 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: and that's tough for a lot of people. And I'm 313 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: seeing it too, like it it gets a little lonely. 314 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: It's a lot of like I gotta I gotta get 315 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: in town two days earlier and I gotta leave hours 316 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: later yep. And everybody else is going away back to 317 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the hotels or go back to go do this. I'm like, 318 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I gotta stay late, work work with TV and work 319 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: with production. I gotta come in two days earlier before 320 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: everybody else gets there, and I can't set plans. I 321 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: gotta get there early because I gotta talk to these 322 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: news stations. I gotta talk to these like I gotta 323 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: be in person with the championship looking the best I can. 324 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: So I gotta get in the gym. I gotta make 325 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: sure I look good. I gotta these things in order. Sorry, 326 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: the house is not going to get that thing put 327 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: in at the time because I'm not going to be 328 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: here for it. 329 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: I got to get out of here and leave. 330 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: So I bought a house over year that I barely 331 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: end because I got to be on the road to 332 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: support this company that still needs to grow, you know, 333 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: and it still needs these things. With my kids and stuff, like, 334 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: I see them when I can, and i'd love to 335 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: fly them out more. But they're getting older. They have camp, 336 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: they have clubs that they got to be a part of. 337 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: They have these things that they are committed to. Now 338 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: as they're fourteen, twelve years old, they're committed to certain things. 339 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: So it's like it's not like they were five, six, 340 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: seven years old and they could just like, oh, we 341 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: have nothing, we can just fly over and come see 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: my dad for like a week and a half. 343 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have that anymore. 344 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: My kids are almost the same edge. I feel the 345 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: same way. And you're talking about the artist's life and 346 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: the artists struggle, and you know, to be great as 347 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: an artist, there is a level of selfishness that has 348 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: to exist. Jeff knows this as a successful comic. You 349 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: know it in the wrestling profession. I certainly know it 350 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: in the acting profession. And I don't mean selfishness in 351 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: a bad way. I mean there has to be some 352 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: focus on self to constantly be evolving and constantly changing. 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Now you're in a position where you are now at 354 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: the pinnacle of that sport, and you're talking about all 355 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: these responsibilities and the sacrifice. 356 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: What is it you're doing? 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: And if there's no answer to this, there's no answer 358 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: to this. But what is it you do to recharge 359 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: your battery? What is it you do to just be 360 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: able to be you for a moment instead of having 361 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: to be all these things for all these different people. 362 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: What is it you do to recharge your battery. 363 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: I'm a video gamer, so like I definitely like I 364 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: get into my games. Literally, people see me like traveling 365 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: with this big TV, true airports, I got the game case. 366 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, oh, man, I can't do it 367 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: without it. Now they're like, oh, what is this thing? 368 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my serenity. That's what that is 369 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: ema alone. But that's what keeps my peace. That's what 370 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: levels me out. Definitely my biggest battery rechargers seeing my 371 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: children doing something with them, like flying up to the 372 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania area and. 373 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: Like, like, at this point, we've seen like that area 374 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: so much. 375 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, we've seen they've seen Times Square on the 376 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: ball drop, they've seen Liberty, the Liberty Bill, they've seen DC, 377 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: they've seen the Capitol, they've seen the Rocky Steps in Philadelphia, 378 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: they've seen they we went to the Lady Liberty and 379 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: the Statue of Liberty and stuff. So like it's trying 380 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: to find new things. I'm like, Okay, we've been doing 381 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: this for a while. What new things can we do? 382 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: What they you know? 383 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: So now it's just like getting them to travel more 384 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: because they don't really get to travel that often, So 385 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: just trying to get them to travel more and like 386 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: me experiencing new things with them, so we're both experiencing. 387 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: New things together. 388 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: So that's been the new challenge for like, that's my 389 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: but that's my battery, like recharge every time. 390 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jeff, you got something in there. 391 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask him when he plays the video 392 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: game A E W Fight Forever, who does he pick? 393 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: You know? 394 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: Have you played as anyone else? Or is it do 395 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: you play as yourself? 396 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: What do you? 397 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: What do you? Who do you pick? Well? 398 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: Now I picked myself. Now it took a while for 399 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: me to get it back and get on the game. 400 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: But now in May, I'm like, yeah, like before you 401 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: were on it, who'd you pick? 402 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I played with Darby and then like I got beat 403 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: by Penta and I was like, I can't play with 404 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Derby anymore. 405 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, pent Penta is the guy I picked the most 406 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 4: guys flying all over the place on that game. 407 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Darby, throw him out Candy's Derby. I 408 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: use Malachi for sure because it was funny. Like in 409 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: the two K game, I mo capped Alistair black Yo. 410 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Really, I didn't know that. That's cool. 411 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 4: Is there a game you play that we would never 412 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: guess he would play? 413 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are your favorites? I started Evil West like 414 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: an indie game. I know what game that is. Yeah, 415 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 3: it came out like I think late early this year 416 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: or late last year. It's like it's like a. 417 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Western zombie game with like some it feels like Got 418 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: a War in a sense, like it plays like the 419 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: new Guy of War. 420 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, something just new. I need. 421 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: I need a new game other than Madden. I gotta 422 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: shoot something. I gotta get away from like like plays 423 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I need to need a change. Well, 424 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: was it Remnants too? We were on and my group 425 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: we played Destiny for a while, a game. I'm trying 426 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: to think of a game that's like, no I would 427 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: think I would play like I. I can go back 428 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: to PlayStation games though. 429 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: Like what what system do you travel with? Oh? PS five? Okay, 430 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: so the PS. 431 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: Five sleek slim it fits well in that super briefcase. 432 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: Is it the games that is the President Travel the one. 433 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: That says G A E. M. S. Because that's the 434 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: same one that that whatever that company is, I. 435 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: Don't even have to round it. That's the one I had. 436 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: I have it for Red Dead with an airport Vanguard Vanguard. 437 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's we all have the same nerdy things. 438 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: I still haven't play Red in the hotels with it. 439 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: They have a bigger one now and that thing is 440 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: like I've seen people play the McDonald's. They just set 441 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: it up. It's like a seventeen inch screen. I'm like, 442 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: that's too much heavy. 443 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: Okay, man, we're wrapping up the first half or first 444 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: two thirds of this and I want to get into 445 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: some of the external stuff. But are you when you're 446 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: not wrestling watching wrestling all the time? Do you have 447 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 2: to take a break from it? I know, like some 448 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: UFC fighters that don't watch the UFC they just compete 449 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: in it. But you said there's a pay per view 450 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: next week they don't watch. Are you somebody who enjoys 451 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: watching other wrestlers work or do you just not have 452 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: the time to watch the twenty hours of wrestling there 453 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: is a week? 454 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Still, I still keep up with weekly television programs just 455 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: because I have a lot of friends everywhere and I 456 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: want to see like how they're being used, what they're 457 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: doing and stuff that week and stuff like that. So 458 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: I do support my friends of mine. Even when I 459 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: won the championship, a lot of those guys they supported 460 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: me and watch and gave me congratulations. So I feel 461 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: like it's only right to like, oh man, I'm watching 462 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: you guys too, you know, showing that support to them. 463 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: So that's where like that goes. I watched some highlights 464 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: every once in a while. It's very rare I watch 465 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: like a full thirty minute match to study something, sure, 466 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: because I kind of want my ideas and my organicness 467 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: of what I'm creating in the ring to just come 468 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: from nothing. It just came from like I would like 469 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: to think so but maybe somebody like, oh, that came 470 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: from so and so from nineteen ninety five super Juniors 471 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like For me, I like the inspiration to 472 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: just come just right out of thin air or something 473 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: like that. 474 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: I'll even watch stunt stunt. 475 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: Reels and come up with movements and come up with 476 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: different like transitions how to just me personally, I'm like, 477 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm always trying to figure out how to move people 478 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: in a different, unique way. How do I create like 479 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: just perpetual motion without just irish whip and just running, 480 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, like, how do I move you in the 481 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: right way, get your shoulder in a certain position, get 482 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: your hips in a certain position. So I watch a 483 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: lot of those combat just combat, like actual combat, just 484 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: just followed movement without having to move someone. 485 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: I want to send you all my favorite Jackie Chan 486 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: fight scenes from the eighties because that's like, oh. 487 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Oh, there's a good chance I've already watched there was 488 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: a good chance I've already watched them. I've been watching 489 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: them things for like since like my first like ten 490 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: years of wrestling. I've seen them, but I got they 491 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: are good to go back and like watch though, but 492 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: still like a Tony Jaiz someone else, Oh hell yeah, 493 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I study of Michael Ji White, Scott Adkins, Yep, my 494 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: buddy gid Da Silva, who's I actually get to go 495 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: to the jam sessions in LA and work with him. 496 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: And the guys who are like grabbing the phone and 497 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: getting the cameras are like these guys. 498 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: Worked on chang Chi and stuff like that. So I'm 499 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: getting like expertise, Like you. 500 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: Know, no, the list of names you gave is enough 501 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: street cred, right. 502 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, those are like these are guys I like 503 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: that's literally molded the last like i'd say, five six 504 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: years of what I've been doing. 505 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: We got to get you the Tony Jai the Elephant 506 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: Bones where he strapped him to his arms and just 507 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: man bust on Nathan jones. 508 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: Yell front foot and to just double the elbows. Yeah crazy. 509 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: All right, Well, you're going to get into a bit 510 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: of business here on the podcast. Don't go anywhere, Swerve. 511 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: We have more with Swerve on our unsanctioned Thursday. You 512 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: guys can hear the rest of the interview, but we 513 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: ask you guys to leave us reviews and we picked 514 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: the best ones or the worst ones, whether you want 515 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: to be kind or mean, and we're gonna read them 516 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: live on the show. So this week is Brian Bowse 517 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: or Bose. I'm gonna say Bose like the speaker, and 518 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: he says, screw tribalism, more wrestling please. All right, so 519 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: this is going to be a nice one. Thank you 520 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: for the five star review, and he says, so glad 521 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: I gave this a chance. I'm not a Day one listener, 522 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: but was always intrigued. Intrigues a great word. By the way, 523 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 2: plan on supporting the FED once Freddy Land's a TV deal. 524 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: Oh thank you for that, dude. I hope I do. 525 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: I am an aew die hard but not a tribalist. 526 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: Really rooting for you, Freddie, Bryan Bowse, you sound like 527 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: an awesome dude. 528 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Keep your fingers crossed. For me. 529 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: Swerve actually knows that I'm out with the wrestling project 530 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: right now. You're one of the few people that I 531 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: actually kind of showed the teaser two to get to 532 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: get your opinion on. 533 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: So we are out with that. 534 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: I've got only gotten one no, close to a yes 535 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: on one and two others. I don't know, but it's 536 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: been a while, so I'm starting to go crap, Maybe 537 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: it's a no, and then the other half of me 538 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: goes no. 539 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 3: Maybe someone's fighting for you. Maybe it's a yes. 540 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: Oh I just think yes, Yeah, tevyworks, so Michelle, it does. 541 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: It does, and I'm used to movies, so maybe that's 542 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: what it is. But you guys stay locked Unsanctioned Thursday 543 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: and we will get a little more personal with Swerve 544 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: and get to know the man even more than we have. 545 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: So thanks for tuning in, everybody. This is Wrestling with Freddie, 546 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: Wrestling with Friends with Jeff Die, the aw World Champion 547 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: Swerve Strickland. Make sure you tune into Dynamite to night 548 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: and we'll see all of you Thursday on Unsay. 549 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: This has been a. 550 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: Production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 551 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 552 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: to your favorite shows.