1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Doug mcatar in for John and Ken. I'm here till 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: four o'clock when Chris Merrill will be here pinchating for 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: Tim Conway Junior. Everybody's back in the saddle tomorrow and 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: hopefully you'll stick with us all hour. Got a lot 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: of good stuff to talk about, including the tenth bus 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: load of illegal immigrants sent to Los Angeles and everybody's 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: all clutching their pearls at city Hall about that, and 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: how long can you let your dog bark before the 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: cops are gonna come. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: We'll get into that story as well. 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, it is Labor Day, of course, and everybody's out 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: of the mud at burning Man now is the big 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: story of the day, and you know it's a slow 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: news day. Want a bunch of old hippie wannabes who 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: sprayed their asses with fluorescent paint got stuck in the mud, 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: and that's the lead story everywhere. They're still covered on 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: Fox News is a never new story anyway. Well, that's 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: in between CNN's covering that the airport's a crowded and 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: the roads are busy, No kidding. I think your news 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: director you always know who's whose stock has fallen in 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: the newsroom when they send you to cover the post 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: office by the airport on April fifteenth for the last 26 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: minute tax filers, and then the reporter has to stick 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: the microphone in the car window and say why did 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 3: you wait so long to file? And it's the same answer, 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: because I owe, you, idiot, why would I file early? 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: If I owe? Why would I file on time? So 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: you know, these are the kind of stories, Sandy. You've 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: had a few of these over the years. 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: You've had to now it's that they can't find a 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: mailbox because they don't exist any that's right. 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: There are no post office. 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: There's no post office by the airport. 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: That's not right. 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: It's you know, a couple years ago, a couple of 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: years ago, I was in a hardware store near the 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: house and they had hired the young kid to work 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: in the hardware store, and the owner of the hardware 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: store handed him a big stack of circulars to go 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: out to, you know, people on their mailing list to drop. 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: And she and I just was, you know, kicking tires 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: in a hardware store, avoiding my life, and she said 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: to the kid, hey, take these outside and dump them 47 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: in the mailbox. 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: Uh. And he vanishes from the store. 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: At about five minutes later, he comes back in with 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: all of the circulars and she looks at him and goes, 51 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: you don't know what the mailbox is, do you? And 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: he shook his head. Now, this kid was not dumb. 53 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: He was not a dumb kid. It just he had 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: literally never mailed a letter in a mailbox in his life. 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: She had to explain, it's the big blue thing out 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: there that has a has a little handle. You'll pull 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 3: that down. You throw them in there. He had never 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: he had never mailed a letter. It's it is his world. 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Uh. 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: And there's lots of people never wrote a check, paper checks, 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: never done that. 62 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 4: In fact, I just saw. 63 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: A story that uh, the paper boarding pass for airlines 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: is uh is a is also a wooly mammoth stuck 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: in the guitar pits of the tar pits of. 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: The age of obsolescence. 67 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: I went to Hawaii this summer with my family, and 68 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 5: my grandpa printed out his boarding pass for him and 69 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: my grandma and I said, Papa, you know I have 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: your boarding passes in my Apple wallet on my phone already, 71 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: like you didn't need to print these out? And he 72 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: was like, no, I wanted to print it out, Like 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: this is how I do it. I would like to 74 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 5: go back to nineteen seventy. I'm fine with paper all 75 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: of that. And he was just completely happy with the 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 5: paper boarding pass. And I'm just like, Oyvey, this is 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: taking forever. 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: Get ready to drop another Oyvey, I totally want the 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: paper boarding yes, I. 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: Asked, Well, here's why. 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: Because I've only had a smartphone for about eighteen years, 82 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: so I'm really not that good at it. And every 83 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: time I've tried to use an electronic boarding pass, the 84 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: screen goes black the second I get up to the 85 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: scanning thing. It happens every single time. Now I'm all fumbs, 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: I'm fumbling. I've got those sexting photos that nobody's supposed 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: to say. 88 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: I got everything's coming up. That's not oh did I 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: say oh shit? Oh boy? Shouldn't have said that. Anyway. 90 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: The point is, every single time I try to get 91 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: on a plane, I reach into my pocket. At the 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: last second, I grabbed the phone. I've dialed you know, 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: my uncle, you know. By instead of pulling up. So 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: I'd rather just have the paper. It's easier anyway. So 95 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: it's Labor Day and all these stories are being covered 96 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: because the troublemakers are on holiday. The troublemakers take off 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 3: the long weekend. They're out in the Hamptons or wherever 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: they are. They went to burning Man, They're stuck in 99 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: the mud tomorrow. By noon tomorrow, there'll be nothing but 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: outrageous to get everybody's blood pressure worked out because everybody 101 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 3: the troublemakers will be back to stir the pot again. 102 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: So let's enjoy this quiet. The meantime, it is Labor Day. 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: There's a lot of labor disputes, and we were just 104 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: talking last hour about the SAG after WGA strikes. I'm 105 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: wearing my WGA T shirt here on Labor Day. The 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: hotel workers are out, the healthcare workers. 107 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: Are out, the UAW maybe out. The scientists may be out. 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. There's a scientist union in California. 109 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: So labor has actually had a comeback of sorts. 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: Labor. 111 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: In the nineteen fifties, something like one out of every 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: two workers in America was in a labor union. Both 113 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: private and public sector and then labor, basically, private sector 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: labor unions almost vanished. They were like white rhinos. They 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: just were very, very rare. And they've made a comeback, 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: they made a strong comeback. And so now we've got 117 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: the schism between do we like labor again or is 118 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 3: labor still you know, too powerful? And in the public sector. 119 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: You could make a case, as we have many, many, 120 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: many times in talk radio, that the public sector labor 121 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: unions are enormously powerful politically, especially here in La and 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: in southern California. In California in general, whether it's the 123 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: prison guards union, or it's the teachers' union, or it's 124 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: the nurses, or it's the hospital excuse me, the well 125 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: the hotel workers have a political cloud as well, but 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: particularly the cops and the firefighters. Every politician who wants 127 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: to be mainstream wants the backing of the police union 128 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: and the firefighters union. And it's certainly the firefighters, if 129 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: not the police. And then you get to some of 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: these deals that you look at and you go, how 131 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: is that possible? How is it possible? For instance, that 132 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: two firefighters one in La County fire captain made four 133 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen three hundred and eighty dollars in overtime 134 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: out of total wages of five hundred and seventy eight 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: ninety nine dollars, and an Alameda County fire captain clocked 136 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: four hundred and seventeen thousand, one hundred and fifty nine 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: dollars in one year, by the way, year in overtime 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: out of a total compensation package of five hundred and 139 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: ninety four four hundred and ninety dollars. I mean staggering 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: sums of money. Well, it happens, and we've covered this 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: story many, many times. It happens because, through a convoluted 142 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: set of circumstances that's been baked into these contracts over many, 143 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: many decades, it's cheaper to pay a handful of people 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: staggering amounts of overtime than it is to go through 145 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: the hiring process and put somebody else on the books, 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: which makes no sense whatsoever, But somehow that's the system 147 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: that we have either evolved to or devolved to, depending 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: on your point of view. Now, certainly, if you're the 149 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: person receiving four hundred and thirteen thousand dollars in overtime. 150 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: Well you probably think this is a great deal. And 151 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: the way it works. 152 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: As I understand is that when someone's retirement year comes up, 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: they basically start giving that person all the overtime just 154 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: as a lovely parting gift as they used to stay 155 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: in the game shows. And that is quite a lovely 156 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: party gift. Here's a half a million dollars of the 157 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: public's money to one person. 158 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 159 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: Also, I have to wonder, how is it possible somebody 160 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: could physically work enough hours to make four hundred and 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: seventeen one hundred and fifty nine dollars in overtime. I mean, 162 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: do they have twenty six hours in a day or something? 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: Up in Alameda County firefighter could work that many hours. 164 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: But anyway, all. 165 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: Of this stuff is is political no matter how you 166 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: slice it. It's all political and how you define what's 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: fair compensation for anybody. And as a general rule, I 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: think that most of the definition the Webster's Diction, the 169 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: Webster's Dictionary definition of fat cat or wealthy may not 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: be this, but quite frequently in political conversations, the way 171 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: we define wealthy as anybody who's making more money than you. 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: That person's got it easy and you are a you know, 173 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: assault of the earth person. You know, sixteen tons another day, 174 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: older and deeper in debt, you know, doing God's work 175 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: or whatever your profession is. But as inflation continues to soar, 176 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: as the Biden administration tries to continues to try to 177 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: talk past it, the reality is is that lots and 178 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: lots of people are falling behind, and that gap between 179 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: the haves and the have nots becomes larger and larger. 180 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: And here's where we get into politics again, because you 181 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: got the Biden administration trying to pretend like inflation is 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: under control them is not a big issue, and gas 183 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: prices really aren't a problem, and we know it is. 184 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: And then you've got people on the right. 185 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Anytime you talk about the gap between the haves and 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: the have nots, they cry communism, as if you know 187 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,479 Speaker 3: somebody who's making forty million dollars a year in compensation 188 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: with stock options, and you compare what they're making to 189 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: what CEOs and talk executives made in this country fifty 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: years ago, when the country was doing fine, when there 191 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: seemed to be a healthy middle class and people could 192 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: afford to buy a house and buy groceries and educate 193 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: their kids without going broke. All of this stuff has 194 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: gotten lost in a cyclone of politics, which, by the way, 195 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: is how we got Labor Day as a holiday. You know, 196 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: going back to the turn of the last century, when 197 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: the labor movement really started to become a political force, 198 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: Congress created a national holiday called Labor Day as a 199 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: nod to and frankly at pander to organize labor to 200 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: remember them fondly on election day. That's how we get 201 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: most of our holidays, by the way, as a nod to. 202 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: That's how Columbus Day all of a sudden became Indigenous 203 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: People's Day because Columbus fell out of favor, and in 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: California at least, the politicians felt brave enough that they 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: could offend the Italian American vote. They didn't do this 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: in New York, they didn't do it in Boston, but 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: they did it in California, you know, where we have 208 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Indigenous People's Day instead of Columbus Day coming up in October. 209 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 3: The political attachment to these holidays has always been there, 210 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: but it's particularly focused in this as this Labor Day 211 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: comes along, because rightly so, millions and millions of Americans 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: feel like they're just falling behind, that they can't as 213 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: the gig economy has become a standard feature in so 214 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: many professions. As you're starting to see, once middle class 215 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: jobs that supported a lifestyle that was considered to be 216 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: a basic American function, are now becoming greatly endangered, if 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: not already extinct. And AI has this looming reality not 218 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: just on the horizon but right here now threatening entire 219 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: categories of work. These are profound issues that both employers 220 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: and employees and politicians have to deal with. Because Bill 221 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: Gates issued this warning, you can google it and find 222 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: the exact quote. But about ten years ago he said, 223 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: our politicians, our leaders, have no idea what's about to 224 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: come down in their heads. And it's the technological revolution 225 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: that is eliminating entire categories of work. It's one of 226 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: the central issues in the Writers Guild strike and in 227 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: the SAG after strike, but it's in every walk of life. 228 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: Now. 229 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 230 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 6: AM six. 231 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: Forty, Doug Mcatarre in for John and Ken, Chris Merrill 232 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: coming up at four o'clock in for Tim Conway Junior, and. 233 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: I went to see Oppenheimer. 234 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I got some thoughts on that that movie 235 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: really really impacted me, and I think that if you 236 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: get a chance to see it, it's well worth your time. 237 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: And it's gonna take some time because it's three hours long. 238 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: But it brings up a lot of stuff, including why 239 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: can't we solve problems the way we did eighty years ago? 240 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, we're not facing an existential threat from 241 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: the Nazis and the Japanese Empire and we were able 242 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: to get our you know what together and solve a problem, 243 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: and we can't get our roads paved properly. 244 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: So we'll get into that just a bit. 245 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: But I saw this story and said, oh, man, I 246 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: had a problem. I'm sure you have too. And that 247 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: was the problem. Not that little yappie dog either, Eric. 248 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: We had a big German shepherd that lived behind us 249 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: for a couple of years and it never stopped barking 250 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: when the owners were gone. 251 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: And here's the problem. 252 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: When the owners were home, he was fantastically well behaved, 253 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: but when the owners were gone, and they were only 254 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: gone about sixteen to eighteen hours a day, he never 255 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: shut up. And of course he was outside. They had 256 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: a fenced in yard with a doggy door that the 257 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: dog could go in and out of the house when 258 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: he wanted. Nobody had to let him out because they 259 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: worked a lot of late hours, so they let the 260 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: dog out, and the dog would just howl and bark 261 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: and bark and bark, and my wife and I would 262 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: tried us. We went out and tried to make friends 263 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: with them, talking to them over the fence. We bought 264 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: dog whistles, and we yelled at him, we cursed at him, 265 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: we did all We called him a cat, We did 266 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: everything we could to humiliate him, and it didn't work. 267 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: And then finally, thank god, they moved and they took 268 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: the dog with him. But when we talked to the 269 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: owners about this, and we tried to keep it very civil, 270 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: we started very civil. Would you please if you don't mind, 271 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: I know you're working a lot of hours. We tripped 272 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: over ourselves to actually, frankly grovel to shut this dog up, 273 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: and nothing worked because they didn't hear it. They never 274 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: heard it. We taped it and played them the tape. 275 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: We did not call the cops. But if we lived 276 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: in Laguna Beach, ah, we'd have some tools in the toolbox. 277 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: Here. 278 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: Big article in the paper Laguna Beach responds to hundreds 279 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: of complaints each year about dogs loud and persistent barking 280 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: and yowling, and they passed an ordinance. Laguna Beach City 281 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: Council unanimously voted to amend the Ordinance on dog barking 282 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: to layout specifics shut that dug up of when a 283 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: canine's vocalizations will be considered an actual noise violation. Under 284 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: the amended ordinance, which takes effect this month, a resident 285 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: can report a dog to the city only if it 286 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: barks NonStop for thirty minutes or intermittently for sixty minutes 287 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: over a twenty four hour period. This according to Laguna 288 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: Beach Police Department, who oversees animal control, and they say, 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: by the way, this change is going to make up 290 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: much more difficult to prove a code violation. So let's see, 291 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: in order for this to be a violation, it has 292 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: to be thirty minutes NonStop or intermittently for sixty minutes 293 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: over a twenty four hour period. 294 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't know how you're supposed to prove any of 295 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: this anyway. 296 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: The penalties are one hundred dollars for the first defense, 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 3: two hundred dollars for the second offense, five hundred dollars 298 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: for the third offense and subsequent offenses within a twelve 299 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: month period, according to the city's municipal Code. Now, by 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: the way, I don't know who has to pay the fine, 301 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: whether it's the owners of the dog itself, but the 302 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: bottom line is it's going to get very expensive that 303 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: they could actually enforced this, which seems to me it 304 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: will be very difficult to enforce. 305 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,239 Speaker 4: Laguna Beach City at twenty. 306 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: Two thousand, has received seventy three complaints about barking and 307 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: issued twenty three warnings. Last year, they had two hundred 308 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: and thirteen complaints, seventy six warnings in twenty twenty one, 309 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty two complaints, eighty one warnings. By comparison, Irvine, 310 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: which is much bigger, logged four hundred and fifty six 311 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: complaints about barking dog so far this year and issued 312 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: a paltry fourteen warnings. And it really is a problem 313 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: the way all of us like to look at our 314 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: home as our castle, our sanctuary, and then you got 315 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: a neighbor who decides to work on their muscle car 316 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: at eleven thirty at night, or the teenager next door 317 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: decides to learn how to play bass guitar without taking 318 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: any lessons and turns the amp up to eleven, by 319 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: the way, And we were that family. And when I 320 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: was a kid, because my brother was a drummer, and 321 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: he would play the drums in the basement wearing a 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: set of headphones so he could listen to the Beatles 323 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: or wherever he was playing to, but he could hear nothing, 324 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: including his own set of drums that everybody in the 325 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: neighborhood could hear. And trust me, when he went to college, 326 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: that made the neighborhood a much better place to live. 327 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Doug, there was a kid in my block who played 328 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: drums on the front porch. Oh jeez, it was loud. 329 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: Wipe out a million times. 330 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: And you know the thing is, there's all kinds of stuff. 331 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 3: Remember the leaf flower band, the leaf flower band. And 332 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: by the way, how interesting that we're still talking about 333 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: leaf blowers and trying to ban them while Oppenheimer's in 334 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: the news because we haven't been nuclear weapons, but people 335 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: have tried to ban leaf blowers because it bothers them. 336 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 3: And I'd like to point out that the people who 337 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: want to ban leaf blowers never do their own yard work, 338 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: because leaf flowers are a tool of great practical utility, 339 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: which is why gardeners want to use them. 340 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: It keeps your prices down too. 341 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: If you have to rake all the leaves by hand, 342 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 3: it's going to be a lot slower a process. But 343 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: good luck trying to shut dogs up, because people buy 344 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: dogs specifically so they will bark to protect the house. 345 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: But the problem is with the hours people work. When 346 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: you have a yapping dog that won't shut up for 347 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: hours on end, it ruins the tranquility of your home. 348 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: This is why we have cats. 349 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 350 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 351 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: Doug macatarre in for John and Ken, who will return 352 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: tomorrow at four o'clock. Chris Merrill will join us in 353 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: for Tim Conway Junior. And I would like to invite 354 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: you to come out and say hello on Sunday, September 355 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: twenty fourth, from two to four pm. I'll be a 356 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble in Burbank, beautiful downtown Burbank doing a 357 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: reading and signing of my new novel, Frank's Shadow, published 358 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: by Greenleaf. And you can get that at Amazon dot com, 359 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: Barnesanoble dot com, or Doug McIntyre dot com I'd be 360 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 3: happy to send you a personally inscribed copy of Frank Shadow, 361 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: or you can come on out and say hello in person. 362 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: On September twenty fourth, just a couple of weeks from now, 363 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: so I went to see Oppenheimer, which you've heard about 364 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 3: by now. Not me going to see the movie, but 365 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: the film that's gonna be up for all the Academy Awards, etc. 366 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: The life story of Robert Oppenheimer and how he developed 367 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: the atomic bomb, led the Manhattan Project to develop the 368 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: atomic bomb during World War Two. 369 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 4: And it's a long picture. It's three hours long. 370 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: It's the second half of the Barbie Oppenheimer phenomenon of 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: this summer Barbenheimer they've been calling it, and it's well 372 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: worth your time to see. It's a great piece of 373 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: American important piece of not just American history, but world history. 374 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: Because we live in Robert Oppenheimer's world, we're still living 375 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: under the threat of thermonuclear annihilation. And I say that 376 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: not to be fear mongering or hyperbole. It's just it's 377 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: a reality. Look at the nuclear saber rattling that goes 378 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: out of Russia, comes out of Russia on a regular basis. 379 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: That's what the Iranians are are are the footsie, the 380 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: game of footsie. The Iranians are playing with the world 381 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 3: and the Biden administration. That's what North Korea is all about. 382 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: You know, Brazil has an atomic weapons program. When Pakistan 383 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: and detonated their atomic weapon, when ag Kahan, the father 384 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: of the Islamic bomb, that started a new arms race 385 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: in essence, that didn't get as much coverage as the 386 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: old one, but countries saw, nations saw that Pakistan all 387 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: of a sudden balanced the equation against India in one explosion. 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: A giant India all of a sudden have to be treated. 389 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: They have to treat Pakistan differently because they're a much 390 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: greater threat. And other people says say, well, maybe we 391 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 3: should get one of those. And that issue is certainly 392 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: dealt within the film. But here was my takeaway from 393 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: watching Oppenheimer. Besides the brilliance of the storytelling, the genius 394 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: of the people involved in the Manhattan Project, and the 395 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: moral questions that it raised, but it raises a question 396 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: for our time. Why is it that in the interest 397 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: of fighting a war, we can tackle an enormous technological 398 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: problem and the moral questions that follow with it. And 399 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: come to conclusions and act upon them in a very 400 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: short period of time. Because the Manhattan Project to go 401 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: from zero to the successful detonation of the atomic weapon 402 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: in the Trinity test in White Sands, New Mexico, to Hiroshima, 403 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: Nagasaki in a tiny fraction of time was done out 404 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: of desperation that we have to do it before the 405 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: Nazis do before Hitler gets. 406 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: The bomb, and then you know what would be in 407 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: the fire. 408 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: So it was a national priority, and we concentrated our 409 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: brain power and our money, and it was a tremendous 410 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: amount of money. By the way, Truman knew nothing about 411 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: until two weeks after his presidency began, and then finally 412 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: they called him into that back room and said, hey, 413 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: by the way, we got this thing called the Manhattan 414 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: Project and an atomic bomb, and you're gonna have to 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: make the decision on whether to. 416 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: Use it or not. 417 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: But we did it, whether you like it or not, 418 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: and it has totally changed the world because we do 419 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: have the capacity to destroy the earth. It's a very 420 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: sobering reality that we still live with. And whatever you 421 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: think of the president, any president in the modern era, 422 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: in the nuclear era, every president has that awesome responsibility 423 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: to make that decision. God forbid we fumble our way 424 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: into a situation where that becomes a reality. But my 425 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 3: question is, why can't we commit the same brain power 426 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 3: and the same resources effectively to deal with our pressing issues. 427 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: For instance, we'll take the homeless issue. We've spent a 428 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: fortune on homelessness in this country, and specifically in California 429 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: and most specifically in the city of Los Angeles. We've 430 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: spent it foolishly, recklessly, with seven hundred maybe even corrupted, corruptly, 431 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: that's the right word, seven hundred thousand dollars per unit 432 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: of homeless housing forty two hundred dollars a month to 433 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: rent hotel rooms for the homeless, buying the Mayfair Hotel 434 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: in downtown Los Angeles at eighty eight million dollars after 435 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 3: laying out what eleven million dollars in damages to the 436 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: current owner, and now the city council's buying it for 437 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: eighty eight million, and by the way, the repairs weren't made. 438 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: That was just compensatory, I mean, just crazy, reckless spending, 439 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: and the problem's gone worse. How is it that we're 440 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: still dumping plastic and toxins into the oceans and using 441 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: the oceans as sewers. 442 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 4: Now we've gotten better at it, but China isn't. 443 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: There's three or four major ridges of rivers in China 444 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: that are the major conduits of garbage into the oceans, 445 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: and we just don't do anything about it. 446 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 4: We just let them do it. 447 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: And some other usually developing third world nations that are 448 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: the worst polluters, and we just say, well, they don't 449 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: have the money to do anything about Well, why don't 450 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 3: we step in and do something about it. I mean, 451 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 3: we being the first world, if we had the ability 452 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: to start from scratch, literally, the Germans had a two 453 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: year head start on atomic weapons program. Einstein writes a 454 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: letter to FDR to get his attention to say, look, 455 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: you got to take this seriously. I know you don't 456 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: understand the physics, and god knows, I don't you watch Oppenheimer. 457 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: I have no idea what they're talking about. But thank god, 458 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: we had brainyacts that could solve this problem. And by 459 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 3: the way, we have those people today right here in 460 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 3: southern California, Caltech. We have geniuses, absolute geniuses who live 461 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: amongst us and they're working on amazing things. But it 462 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: seems like everybody's working on a scattershot in a scattershot 463 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: pattern on various projects. When we have a couple of 464 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: easily identified, easily identifiable major national objectives, but we're not 465 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: concentrating our. 466 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: Brain power and resources on them. 467 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: For instance, you want to talk about climate change, Well, 468 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: if we could split the atom and figure out how 469 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: to build atomic weapons in two and a half to 470 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 3: three years and deploy it successfully and end World War two, 471 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: why not marshal those resources to come up with a 472 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: renewable clean energy and roll it out on a vast 473 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: scale and get past this craziness where people are mad 474 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: at electric vehicles, which is one of the craziest things 475 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: I've ever seen. People are somehow like their manhood is 476 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: offended by electric vehicles. Don't buy one, all right, Just 477 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: don't buy one if you don't want one. But it's 478 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: like to be angry at an alternative at a choice 479 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: just seems crazy to me. But nonetheless, that's your business, 480 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: not mine. 481 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm just jealous of tuessels go so fast. Look, I mean, 482 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: we really take off. 483 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: And people love to post pictures of an electric car 484 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: that's on fire. All right, how many internal combustion engine 485 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: car fires do we report on every single day, every 486 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: single day, a carbecue. We even add a traffic report, 487 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, colloquialism that we used to use. A carbecue 488 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: on the seven ten, you know, happens every day. Gasoline explodes, 489 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: things burn, All right, there's some risk that comes with 490 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: all this stuff, but it's crazy. But all this stuff 491 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: trash in the oceans. Climate change. How about capturing rain 492 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 3: water so that the next time we plunge into a 493 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: seven year drought, we're not having to you know, share 494 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 3: bath water and take turns brushing our teeth. 495 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 4: It's perpetual problems. 496 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: We know that we live in a place that's subject 497 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: to droughts and bad droughts, severe droughts, and yet Hurricane 498 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: Hillary becomes tropical Storm Hillary, and the vast majority of 499 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: the runoff goes right into the ocean, and we don't 500 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: capture it because we fall asleep as soon as it rains, 501 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: and we don't take steps for the next drought. 502 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: We didn't do that in World War Two. 503 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: Thank god we didn't do that, because otherwise we'd be 504 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: speaking German, you know, and we'd have very little freedom. 505 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: You know. 506 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: It's demoralizing because this is not a question of technology 507 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: and resources. It's a question of leadership across the board, 508 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: across the political party lines. This isn't a Trump Biden 509 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: bashing session. This is just let's wake up and say 510 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: America and the Western world in particular has astonishing brain 511 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: capacity if it is focused on critical measures, and yet 512 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 3: it seems to be diffused or frittered away. And we 513 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: didn't do that in war. You know Captain Morris who 514 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: is the one who discovered the trash gyres in the 515 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: Pacific Ocean. He talked about how in World War Two 516 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: we recycled everything for war. So if we can do 517 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: it for war, why can't we do it in peace 518 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: and just have a better world to handle our grandkids. 519 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 520 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 6: Am six forty. 521 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: Doug Mcatarre in for John and Ken and in for 522 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Tim Conway Junior. Coming up in just a few minutes 523 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: is Chris Merrill who joins us right now. 524 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: Chris Howard Doug McIntyre. 525 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 7: What an honor it is to be on the air 526 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 7: with such a legend, really something. 527 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited, you know, you know you did a 528 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: great job. I listened to the show, was fantastic. 529 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. 530 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: And this isn't criticism, It's just an observation that once 531 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: they start calling you a legend, it means you're, well, there's. 532 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: No young legs? Are there young legends? 533 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you're right there are no young legs. 534 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, as a general role, there are. 535 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, whipper snappers, I suppose is what it is. 536 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: You know, I do these crossovers with Tim on occasion, 537 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 7: and I find that he will come in and sort 538 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: of dominate the conversation, and I, you know, I didn't 539 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 7: want to do that to you, Doug. So here's what 540 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: I've got going on on my show tonight. We've got 541 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 7: Labor Day is going on. Everybody's on strike. That sounds 542 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 7: like a good time for everybody involved. And did you 543 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 7: know it is the unofficial start to fall and it 544 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 7: feels nothing like fall in southern California. I don't know 545 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 7: why we keep saying it's full, but that has not 546 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 7: stopped the television stations from running stories about when daylight 547 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 7: savings time will end. 548 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what it's gonna end? 549 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 6: Doug? 550 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 4: I don't care. 551 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: Not only do I not know, I really don't care 552 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: because eventually I'll catch up to it. 553 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: See that's how legends think. 554 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 4: That's fantastic. Well, you know the thing is, that's what 555 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: makes you great. 556 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: No, here's what's happened is that there's one clock in 557 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: particular that I need a ladder to get to in 558 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: the kitchen. But the beauty part is, Chris, that my 559 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: wife during COVID went crazy with house plants and she's 560 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 3: got this ivy inside the house. So now I need 561 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: hedge clippers and a leaf flower in order to do, 562 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: you know, clean the house. But I can't see the 563 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: clock anymore because the ivy is hanging over it, so 564 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: I might not have to get on that ladder and 565 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: change it back an hour, so I don't really care 566 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: that much anymore. 567 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 568 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Well, because you've got like Wrigley Field in your. 569 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: Kitchen, and that's pretty much what it is exactly. I 570 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: rake the kitchen instead of actually cleaning it. Now, So 571 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: you got the big program coming up, and that's good. 572 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: You got three hours in order to fill in for Tim, 573 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: who I guess will be back tomorrow if the cops 574 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: take that tracking color off his ankle and he'll be 575 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: back in the saddle all right. 576 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and. 577 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Some things to clear up with the Probation Office. But 578 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: I think he's going to get that taken care of, 579 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: so we're excited for it. 580 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: He usually does. 581 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: He wiggles out of these things, all right, Chris, thanks 582 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: so much, appreciated. Chris Merrill coming up in just a 583 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: few minutes. Meanwhile, for the tenth time, a busload of 584 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: illegal immigrants has arrived in LA from Texas, and the 585 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: of course city Hall. They're clutching their pearls over that. 586 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: And you know something, we brought this on ourselves, folks. Hey, 587 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna slide down the dinosaur. Thank you to Dana, 588 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: to Eric and also to Sandy Wells, and I am 589 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: happy to hand it off to that newsroom right now. 590 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 591 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 7: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 592 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 7: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 593 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 7: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.