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Speaker 1: the draft. What do we expect to happen? What do

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Speaker 1: our colleagues think will happen? Consider it an unofficial straw pole.

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Speaker 1: There does seem to be somewhat of a consensus of

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Speaker 1: positions have most often been associated with that spot, cornerback

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Speaker 1: and wide receiver. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode four seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right throws near sight of Frien's part.

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Speaker 1: He he's into the enside for the touchdown. Here's Craig

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Speaker 1: Griolu and Mike Jarecki. It is finally draft week. MG.

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Speaker 1: The talking is just about over. It's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun talk, It's been a lot of interesting talk.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is probably the better adjective to use,

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Speaker 1: but that is what this season is when you talk

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Speaker 1: Everyone has an opinion and really no one knows what

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Speaker 1: to expect come Thursday, April twenty ninth, And that's the

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Speaker 1: beauty of the NFL Draft. And again, the NFL does

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Speaker 1: a great job, whether it's free agency, the combine back

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Speaker 1: you get the draft and it's it's reality TV. We

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Speaker 1: all think we know, and you know, you'll see different

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Speaker 1: mocks coming out. You know, guys will start hearing more information,

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Speaker 1: TV at its finest and I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know we're doing a podcast, but I

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think the Cardinals are in a

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Speaker 1: good spot. You know at sixteen. Now clearly you know

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Speaker 1: We've got some shows both Thursday and Friday, post day one,

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Speaker 1: post Day two. As far as what the Cardinals actually

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Speaker 1: don't know how Newsom would fit in this defense. So again,

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Speaker 1: they don't tell us what they're doing. And that's the

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Speaker 1: beauty of watching the draft unfold on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I love that you called it reality TV at its peak,

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Speaker 1: and we're not going to know until Thursday five pm

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Speaker 1: eros out of time, and of course probably you know

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Speaker 1: an hour or so into it when the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are on the clock at number sixteen. Selfishly, I hope

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Speaker 1: they keep that pick at sixteen. They don't trade downs,

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Speaker 1: are waiting even longer for that first initial pick. But

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Speaker 1: I get it as far as moving down still get

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Speaker 1: a player you like and maybe still high on your

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Speaker 1: board to compare to other teams, and then acquire maybe

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Speaker 1: that third fourth round pick that you don't currently have. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how about how about this again hypothetical not speculating, hypothetical

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Speaker 1: stick and pick at sixteen. I got that from Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah stick and pick. So stick and pick at sixteen

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Speaker 1: and then ran around twenty eight twenty nine, Steve Kin

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Speaker 1: gets on the phone, calls Jason Light and said, I

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Speaker 1: want the thirty second pick in the draft. I'll offer

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Speaker 1: you something next year. Because Jason Light and the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: have all twenty two starters returning. He's come out and

449
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Speaker 1: said that they are going to go after opt out

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Speaker 1: guys and they're gonna try to red shirt them the

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Speaker 1: first year. And they have eight draft picks. Now if

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Speaker 1: there's somebody on their board, because you know you're building

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Speaker 1: for the future. Tom Brady's not gonna play forever, not

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Speaker 1: saying they're gonna go a certain position. But they love

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Speaker 1: pass rushers, they love linebackers, they like corners are that's

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Speaker 1: what Todd bols is. But I would try to call

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Speaker 1: Jason light and get back in the first round for

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Speaker 1: a fifth year option. And that's key right there, that

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Speaker 1: fifth year option. And you see a lot of movement,

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Speaker 1: or at least a lot of times teams try to

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Speaker 1: get back into later half of that first round just

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Speaker 1: for that fifth year option. Yes, it's going to cost

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Speaker 1: you a pick or maybe a couple of picks, but

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Speaker 1: if it's a fifth, sixth, seventh round selection, you know

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Speaker 1: how likely are those players to make your team or

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Speaker 1: have a huge impact that's not on special teams Compared

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Speaker 1: to a pick in the later twenty half of the twenties,

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Speaker 1: whether you're talking twenty eight twenty nine, thirty thirty one,

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Speaker 1: thirty two, just because of the value of that fifth

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Speaker 1: round option to where you have a little bit more

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Speaker 1: room if you're a team to figure out, all right,

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Speaker 1: we do like this player, he's a part of our future.

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Speaker 1: Let's give him that second contract. And you know we're

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Speaker 1: in that period now, MJ where teams have to make

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Speaker 1: that decision. We heard the Cleveland Browns announced that Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield his fifth year option has been picked up. We

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Speaker 1: haven't though, heard anything about a contract to go along

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Speaker 1: with that as far as a contract extension. So and

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Speaker 1: let's not forget the Cardinals are going to be in

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Speaker 1: this boat next offseason with respects to Kyle the Murray

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Speaker 1: as far as do you extend or do you let

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Speaker 1: it play out a little while longer? To me, this

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Speaker 1: is just more a formality. He's going to make close

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Speaker 1: to nineteen million dollars. They could put the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: on the following year. Again, it's a big offseason for

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Speaker 1: guys like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield. They're

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Speaker 1: the next guys. Are they going to exceed one hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollar contract as well? Based on the history, says yes,

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Speaker 1: so more formality and the fact that you know he

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Speaker 1: made strides under Kevin Stefanskin his first year. I think

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Speaker 1: they're one of the more talented teams. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Andrew Berry gets enough credit the way they've drafted

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Speaker 1: and aman John Dorsey. They're loaded, and they got a

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Speaker 1: really good staff and they should be in that in

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Speaker 1: that conversation for the AFC North along with the Ravens

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Speaker 1: and possibly the Steelers then so yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: I just think Tampa's Tampas they got champagne problems. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are great luxure. I mean, and I don't have

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Speaker 1: to look at Jimmy Johnson's trade chart. I know it's

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Speaker 1: changed with analytics, but I don't think you would have

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Speaker 1: to give up a ton, but you are probably have

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Speaker 1: to give up a future pick. I just don't know

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Speaker 1: a little bit that dynamics would be the Only issue

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Speaker 1: with that, though, is how many teams might be calling

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay or maybe even calling Kansas City and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you get into a bidding war, if

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Speaker 1: you will. Now, all of a sudden, Jason Light's got

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Speaker 1: you know, three phones, and he's like, well, this team's

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Speaker 1: offering me next year's second round pick plus a seventh

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Speaker 1: round as well. And you're going back and forth. Now

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Speaker 1: if now it takes a couple of different teams to

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Speaker 1: get into that bidding war, and if you want to

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Speaker 1: play one against the other. But that would be my

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Speaker 1: concern whether you know what's the price and it could

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Speaker 1: go up if there's more interest in getting back into

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Speaker 1: the ladder half of that first round, I would say, Jason,

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Speaker 1: I mean he used to work here. I mean a

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Speaker 1: brother out. I mean, what do you mean that's true?

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Speaker 1: Pull on the heartstrings if you will. You guys took

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Speaker 1: our coach. What do you mean? I mean? At least

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Speaker 1: you could do is just help us out. No, it's

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a there's a Jimmy and trade charts,

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Speaker 1: so they'll go by that. I mean, yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 1: do it's best for your franchise. But you're right. And

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Speaker 1: then when the draft ends on Thursday night, whoever has

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Speaker 1: that thirty third pick, which is I assumed Jacksonville. All right,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have a pick first pick in every round.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they will, will them deal, but

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Speaker 1: that pick becomes a valuable The Cardinals headed a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, and they stayed there and took by

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Speaker 1: Ra Murphy and then you know they had a higher

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Speaker 1: grade on Andy Isabella, So you know that's what they did.

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Speaker 1: But that first pick, and then when you get to Saturday,

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Speaker 1: when you get to round four, you know it's not

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Speaker 1: as valuable, but second and third round are valuable when

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Speaker 1: you want to build the belly of your roster. Let alone.

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Speaker 1: The first Round Picks Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday

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Speaker 1: Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All right, mj is

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Speaker 1: we will next speak to everyone Thursday night Friday morning,

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Speaker 1: depending on when people might listen to the podcast here,

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Speaker 1: but best case scenario for you and you can give

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Speaker 1: me a name if you want, or maybe just a position.

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Speaker 1: But what do you hold happens Thursday nights when we here.

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Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell say, the Arrozona Cardinals are on the

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Speaker 1: clock with pick number sixteen. I hope Jalen Waddle's there.

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Speaker 1: I hope J. C. Horne's there. Vera Tucker, but I

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Speaker 1: think more realistically possibly Xavian Collins because we're not seeing

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Speaker 1: him now. Now. It just takes one team at fourteen

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Speaker 1: or thirteen. I mean again, it's not a deep draft

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Speaker 1: at dat Eventsive tackles, so you're not going to see

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Speaker 1: those guys push him down. A guy that can play

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Speaker 1: multiple positions, I think he's rising up clearly, and so

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Speaker 1: again I would take the I would take one of

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Speaker 1: the receivers like Waddle, I think, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's going to be there, and then Horne because

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Speaker 1: they feel what they're looking for. Tucker to me is

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Speaker 1: a future pick, possibly could run for a competition, but

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Speaker 1: realistically Zaven Collins would be the guy. If he's on

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Speaker 1: the board at sixteen, I'm gonna go cornerback and as

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Speaker 1: long as it one of those corners that we've all

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Speaker 1: been talking about, and if I'm general manager Steve Kime

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Farley is still on the board. I looked

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Speaker 1: at Tom Raid and I look to the medical department.

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Speaker 1: If they give me a thumbs up, then I'm going

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Speaker 1: to roll the dice. Because at the end of the day, MJ,

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Speaker 1: this is all a roll of the dice. No matter

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Speaker 1: who you are selecting, even at number one, with the

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Speaker 1: presumptive number one overall pick Trevor Lawrence, there are going

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Speaker 1: to be highs and lows with all of these draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: But when you're weighing the risk reward, there is a

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Speaker 1: huge risk at least that what has we've been told

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Speaker 1: with Farley. But at the end of the day, if

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Speaker 1: the medical team says we've checked him out, he's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to mean that he's injury free, but

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Speaker 1: that back is not a concern. If you want him,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and take him, Steve, then okay. I would

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable because you've put those people in charge of

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Speaker 1: your medical and if you believe in them, then you

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Speaker 1: should be comfortable and saying all right, Caleb Farley's our guy, Craig.

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Speaker 1: I got to assume those conversations have already taken place.

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Speaker 1: Now again, they've set their board, they've had all their meetings,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's going doing you know, double check,

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Speaker 1: let's watch this guy's film again to this guy. So

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Speaker 1: I would hope that there's those conversations, because when you're

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Speaker 1: on the clock, that's not the time, and I know

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Speaker 1: you're just pointing out it's got to get cleared by

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Speaker 1: the medical staff, whether that's last week, tomorrow, Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: they reconvene and they say this is where we are

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Speaker 1: after all this research we've done. This is where we

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable with and then go from there. But yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: if there wasn't any concerns and it's not character, it's medical,

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Speaker 1: and the medical is big, I would definitely consider it.

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Speaker 1: But I, like I said, I'm just a little cautious,

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Speaker 1: and he can turn out to be I have a

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Speaker 1: great career, and you know, I'm not saying he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be a good players. You just gotta you

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Speaker 1: just gotta know what you're doing there, and that's why

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Speaker 1: teams have doctors and don't forget. Before any of this

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Speaker 1: became a subject or a talking point, many believed that

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Speaker 1: cover this a lot more in depth than either one

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Speaker 1: of us are talking about. Mel Kiper, Todd mcshaye, Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. Those are the kind of the names that

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Speaker 1: we've always thrown out there. They have Caleb Farley number one.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is going back into December January, and

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Speaker 1: then of course you do more investigating, more digging, more

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Speaker 1: phone calls, and of course things pop up. But many

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Speaker 1: believed that Farley is the number one cornerback regardless, just

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Speaker 1: based off of his coverage skills. Yeah, and you wash

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Speaker 1: the tape and it six out. I mean, it's unfortunate,

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Speaker 1: but he's been in front of it. He's addressed it.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Watkinson's a medical reporter post surgery to all thirty

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Speaker 1: two teams. So if you have anything that make and

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Speaker 1: reach out. It's not an injury that hasn't happened before.

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Speaker 1: Other guys have had it. Watkins is a renowned specialist,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's done everything. He hasn't hit from it,

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Speaker 1: and he claims it. He'll be ready for training camp

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Speaker 1: now because he started the season on pup. Again, you're

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Speaker 1: not drafting, and for one year you're drafting and for

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Speaker 1: the next four or five years. And if this is

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Speaker 1: indeed the scenario that pans out on Thursday, let's hope

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Speaker 1: that we find out about these discussions and maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a part of a future episode of Cardinals Flight Plan

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Speaker 1: burd Gang. If you missed it, episode number one titled

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Speaker 1: It's always very well done. The premiere episode of season

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Speaker 1: number four of this Emmy Award winning series was very,

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Speaker 1: very solid. You had basically the free agency process going

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Speaker 1: through from JJ Watt to Malcolm Butler to AJ Green,

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Speaker 1: James Conner, and I think, to me, m J as

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Speaker 1: we just divert a little bit of attention to flight plan.

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Speaker 1: What I liked the most was Brentson Buckner looking at

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Speaker 1: the film of JJ Watt and one quote from coach

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Speaker 1: buck that really stood out to me talking about Watt

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Speaker 1: quote with him, We're going to get more stops. You're

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Speaker 1: going to get Kyler three or four more possessions per game,

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Speaker 1: all because of the addition of this guy here. And

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Speaker 1: that's something that he said it and took me back

640
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: and he started thinking like, Okay, well, yeah, defensive stops

641
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: equal more position possessions for the offense. Now, all of

642
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, maybe this offense is scoring thirty thirty five

643
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: points a game that we all anticipated was going to

644
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: be the case under the Kingsbury offense. Yeah. I really

645
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: like what buck said. I don't know about three or four.

646
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, usually it seemed a little high, but yeah,

647
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: I think what he was saying, yes exactly, No, listen,

648
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: they should I mean again, the rush defense should be

649
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: a lot better if they can figure out what they

650
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: want to do in the back end. We like the safeties,

651
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: we'd like the corners at least need more depth. But yeah,

652
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean I like what he's saying. He also said

653
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: there were a lot of teams going after JJ Watt

654
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: and you know, at the last minute he announced he's

655
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: coming to the Cardinals and all of a sudden, we

656
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: overpaid for this guy. Just paraphrase him, and he's right.

657
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: If any other team would have signed him Green Bay,

658
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: they would have been saying, oh, that's our free agent,

659
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, big signing of the offseason. And I think

660
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: we could say that now a matter of him coming together.

661
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: But this defense should be if if he's had two

662
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: and a half, I would take that. You go from

663
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: eleven possessions to thirteen. I mean, that's where your snap

664
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: count gets up. Now you're not at sixty five, ye

665
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: at seventy two, seventy four, and your offense or your

666
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: defense is on the sidelines. Resting less snaps bodes well

667
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: for a defense long term, especially when you get into

668
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: the month of December. So the defense certainly addressed in

669
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: free agency. Now we'll see what gets addressed in the

670
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: draft again, the Cardinals was six picks, one in the

671
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: first round, one in the second round, and then nothing

672
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: again until the fifth. They do have a sixth round

673
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: selection that was via the Minnesota Vikings and the Mason

674
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Coletrade and then two picks and round seven, two forty

675
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: three and two forty seven overall. Craig, what's the latest

676
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: on Fits. I'll say this if you believe the general manager,

677
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Steve Kime says, it doesn't matter what the Cardinals do

678
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: during the draft on how that might affect Larry Fitzgerald's future.

679
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: But it is funny you bring him up. You know,

680
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Whatever Fits does. You know, it doesn't tweet

681
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot anymore. But if he makes an appearance, then

682
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people start to figure out, all right,

683
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: well what's he doing, what's he saying? And let's read

684
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: between the lines and that's basically what we've been doing

685
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: since the end of the season. But congratulations to fifth

686
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: because he is once again done something that I don't

687
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: know if he's done before. He's spoken at big events before,

688
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: but he gave the commencement address at University of Phoenix's

689
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: graduation ceremonies over the weekend. Fitz remember, earned his degree

690
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: from the university in twenty sixteen, and that I think,

691
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm sitting in the crowd, I would

692
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: love to hear from Larry Fitzgerald, especially as that ceremony

693
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: is taking place inside Chase Field. You're talking about arguably

694
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: the greatest athlete in Arizona history, talking about all every

695
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: sport to be played inside the state of Arizona. But

696
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: that also happened to mark the seventeenth anniversary of when

697
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: fitz was drafted number three overall back in two thousand

698
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: and four, which led to a discussion from some people

699
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: that maybe Saturday we might have gotten an announcement from

700
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: fitz like we did from Drew Brees, who waited until

701
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: the day that he was drafted and then kind of

702
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: book in the start and then the conclusion of your

703
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: career based off when you were drafted or when you

704
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: were signed in the case of Drew Brees with the

705
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Yeah, I didn't see that happening. That's

706
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: not Larry Fitzgerald. I mean, yes, this is a Saturday.

707
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: That's not him. And quite frankly, I don't think he's

708
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: going to make a decision, like in the next couple

709
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: of days. He's not going to make a decision. And

710
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: I think, I don't want to speak for him. It's

711
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: just I just what's the hurry. I mean, I understand

712
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: people want to know, but the Cardinals have maintained that

713
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: it's going to take his time and they're they're going

714
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: to draft accordingly. It doesn't matter if Larry Fitzer is

715
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: on the roster, plus the age and you got to

716
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: get better a lot of different positions. But I I

717
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: never thought that he would make an announcement. I mean, Craig,

718
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: I think if I can connect dots, and just if

719
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: you asked Larry, you know, maybe after a month or

720
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: forty five days after the decision, how do you feel?

721
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: And probably says, you know, I'm not in a hurry

722
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: to go run routes right now. And then we get

723
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: to you know, March and April. Okay, he's playing golf.

724
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: He obviously recovered from that growing injury. So I mean

725
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: it could this thing can drag on for a little while.

726
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but at some point when he

727
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: wakes up, he's people don't realize this is a decision

728
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: that probably is going to be as tough as decision

729
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: in life. Do I hang it up, is he gonna

730
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: miss it, which you will? Or do I play for

731
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: another year and you know, kind of hopefully the Cardinals,

732
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: or if he decides to go somewhere else, which I

733
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think he's going anywhere else. I mean,

734
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: I we were, We've kind of gone back and forth

735
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: on that, and I understand the talking points. You know, Minnesota,

736
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I know it's not in Minnesota. I know,

737
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna go on in a limb

738
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: without knowing anything. And I like what Darren keeps saying

739
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: what he gets asked about it, and Fitz has said

740
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: so much in the past. Now it hasn't been recently

741
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: in the last six seven months. But if he's playing,

742
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: he's wondering an Arizona Cardinals uniform, and that's it. And

743
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: you can can try to connect dots or do whatever,

744
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: or where he's visiting, where he's traveling, who he's scene.

745
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he's not wearing and that's if you want

746
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: to prove me wrong, that's fine. But I'll believe it

747
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: when I see it. He is only wearing one uniform.

748
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: He wants to be known as that guy. It's a

749
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: rare breed these days, regardless of sport, to be that

750
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: guy to only put on one uniform. Yeah, I don't disagree,

751
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: but you know, as you get older in life, I mean,

752
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: you know he wants to play for a ring and

753
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: is that possible. I mean, there's no guarantees anywhere else.

754
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't I don't know when he's

755
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: going to make a decision, but I think it's also

756
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: when you think about either end your NFL career and

757
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: you move on. That's going to be a big decision.

758
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's days he feels like maybe I

759
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: can do it, and maybe there's other days where hey,

760
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: I want to take a step back. But let him

761
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: make his own decision. He doesn't owe anything to anybody. Okay,

762
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: he'll make his decision, and what's the hurry. I mean,

763
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: he's going to make a decision where you're all in

764
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: once you commit. And I don't disagree with your premise.

765
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: I I've been on that forever. I just know that

766
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: things change in life and sometimes you have other priorities.

767
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: But again, I just don't know what to hurry. I

768
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: know people want to know. I get it because you

769
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: want to know is going to be playing this year.

770
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I gotta think it's a

771
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: tough decision for him. And I don't talk to him

772
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: about it because again I have a good relationship, But

773
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: I don't what are you thinking. I just know when

774
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: the season was ended, you know, he needed to take time,

775
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: and here we are and he's still taking time. And

776
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I think the next dates, if you want to, you know,

777
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: try to speculate or whatever, at least for me, is

778
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: the end of July, the start of training camp. If

779
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: we get to that point in mj and we still

780
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: don't know, because at this point, you know, you're seventeen

781
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: years in the league. You don't need an offseason, you

782
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: don't need to be a part of Thota's or mini camp.

783
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: If we get to that point this summer in twenty

784
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: twenty one, so training camp to me. If we get

785
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: then and we still haven't heard, then okay, maybe it's

786
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: maybe it's something that we never hear from FITS and

787
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: one day, you know, he shows up week five, week

788
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: eights or hope we never get to this point, but

789
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: there's an injury or or something happens and let's call

790
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: Fits if he's still available. I mean, there's no rule

791
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: of thumb that says you have to make an announcement.

792
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, is there. I mean, yes, it's Fits and

793
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: people want to know, But there aren't been guys who

794
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: have announced their retirements, you know, a year or two

795
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: after their last game. Now, that was a little different

796
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: scenario because no one came calling and wanting to know

797
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: if they were available. But no one has to say

798
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to say anything, And it would be

799
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: typical Fits to just kind of ride off into the

800
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: sunset without let anyone know what's going on except for

801
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: maybe Michael Bidwell, Steve Kime and Cliff Kingsbury, those three,

802
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: and then what those three do with it? They honor

803
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: fits His requests and just go about their business preparing

804
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: and getting ready for twenty twenty. One. Can tell you this,

805
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: he hasn't made a decision, And people like, how's he

806
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: hasn't made a decision. Well, the first people are going

807
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: to know his kids there he hasn't. I mean, at

808
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: this point he'll tell his family before anybody else knows.

809
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: But again, I just don't think he's made a decision

810
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: and people are well, he's had plenty of time to

811
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: think about Again, the biggest decision you'll have in his

812
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 1: professional career is right now. Does he want to play?

813
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Does he want to retire? That's it, and he has

814
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: the luxury of time on his side. If it's you

815
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: or I, you know, where do you do job wise?

816
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: Career wise? You have to make a decision. You don't

817
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: have the luxury of time like Fitz does. So well,

818
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: he sit and wait as we have since the end

819
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: of the regular season. Again, if and when Fitz does

820
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: make a decision, hopefully it will be chronicled on Flight

821
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: Plan again, season number four, episode number one, Power Surge

822
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Speaker 1: on asy cardinals dot com and a YouTube dot com

823
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: slash Acy Cardinals. Just hit the subscribe button so you

824
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: don't miss any of the episodes to come this off season.

825
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: A couple of their draft notes before we close up

826
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: shop here on Cardinals cover two presented by Hunday. Proud

827
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Kelvin Beacham is going to

828
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: be a part of the three day NFL Draft. The

829
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive tackle will announce the team's Day two pick,

830
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: which right now is just one pick second round number

831
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: forty nine overall, and this is something the league has

832
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: done over the last several years as far as incorporating

833
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: current players, former players, people in the community to announce

834
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: their respective teams picks Day two and Day three, and

835
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham I noticed, was on the list of currents

836
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: and former players that will be involved on Day two

837
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. Yeah, I've really even impressed with

838
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: him ever since he came to the Cardinals. I know

839
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: he does a lot of things off the field for

840
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: the Players Coalition. He's involved in community stuff and I'm

841
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: glad that they retained him. And he speaks very well,

842
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: so it's only it's only it's fitting that he's going

843
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: to get this opportunity and he's on some of the

844
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: NFL you know, charity commercials. Again, I think he's a

845
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: really good addition, and not only in the locker room,

846
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: but also in the community. Now, bringing this show full

847
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: circle to where we began, and that was with the

848
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: Cardinals pick number sixteen, cornerback, wide receiver. Whomever that pick is.

849
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: If it is a wide receiver or cornerback, they will

850
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: have a decision to make what number do they wear

851
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals, and if it's a wide receiver,

852
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: if it's a cornerback, they can pick a number that

853
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: no other players had the opportunity at those positions to select,

854
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: and that is a single digit number. The NFL and

855
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: the owners approving something that we had discussed pretty vos

856
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: here on Cardinals covered two, and that is allowing running backs,

857
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers, tight ends, dbs, even linebackers to wear numbers

858
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: in the single digits. And this has certainly captured a

859
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of people's attentions MJ. We've already heard Patrick Peterson

860
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: announced that he is going to wear number seven with

861
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings. That was the number he wore at LSU.

862
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: Immediately after this rule was announced or the relaxation of

863
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: the rule, I guess you could say. Isaiah Simmons tweeted

864
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: about potentially changing from his current number forty eight. DeAndre

865
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Hopkins went so far as to tweet out and put

866
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: on social media a picture of him wearing number six.

867
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Do you think there are going to be more players

868
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: in MJ that go this route and have that ability

869
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: to go with single digits. Well, let's focus on Patrick Peterson.

870
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: He's wearing the same number I believe he wore in

871
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: high school and college and that's a big number at LSU.

872
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Because he's changing teams, he doesn't have to purchase all

873
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: his jerseys. A guy like Dalvin Cook who wants to

874
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: change his numbers, he would have to pay one point

875
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: five million, So it's a little bit different. Hop would

876
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: have to pay now that we know these guys got

877
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the money. But Patrick doesn't have to pay because he

878
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: is changing teams. So I think it's going to come

879
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: to the finances. And you know, if you got money

880
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: and you're willing to buy up your jerseys, and I

881
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: think we'll see it though, just because guys like you know,

882
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe they're superstitious they were a certain number and other things,

883
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: you know. I just like I said, I know the

884
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 1: officials are going to have their work cut out because

885
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, you normally see different guys blocking and I

886
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: know Brady came out. I don't know. I just I

887
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: think some guys will come into the NFL with single

888
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: digits now where they don't have to worry about it

889
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: as much as in the past or But yeah, I

890
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: think it's all comes down to money, basically, how much

891
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: you have to owe versus going to a new team. Yeah,

892
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: that's key as far as if you want to change

893
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: your number, you have to buy what inventory is left

894
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: of that number and in your way and the costs

895
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: as far as whether you want to make that change

896
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: or wait until the following season. With respects the Arizona Cardinals,

897
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: if you go to as Cardinals dot com, single digits

898
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: that have already been assigned. Obviously, Kyle Murray wears number one,

899
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Andy Lee number four, and number eight is unavailable because

900
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: that number was retired in honor of Larry Wilson. So

901
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: you could see three, five, six, seven, nine worn by

902
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: someone that typically doesn't wear a single digit, whether that's

903
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: a Chase Edmonds or DeAndre Hopkins or maybe even in

904
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons to that latter point though, as linebackers wearing

905
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: single digits, and I understood where Tom Birdie was coming from.

906
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: But the response, I thought there'd be more people MG. Honestly,

907
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: that would kind of back up what Brady had to say.

908
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: I heard Kurt Warner on ninety eight seven FM say

909
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at numbers, I'm looking for players on

910
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: the field. Where are they situated, what position, what spot

911
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: on the field are they at? That's how I can

912
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: tell whether you're a defensive lineman, a linebacker, or a

913
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: defensive back. So, and that was something that I heard

914
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: another general manager say as well. So it's not so

915
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: much the numbers, although we'll take some getting used to.

916
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: But as we've seen, times changed, things changed during the

917
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: course of a game, during the course of this league,

918
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: and players and coaches have learned to adapt. In fact,

919
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: we all did in twenty twenty. Tell us what we're

920
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: up against and we'll make it work. Yeah, I'm not

921
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: against it. I just you know, I get it. But

922
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: at the same time, I just, you know, creature of habit.

923
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: You look at the lineman. Now, it's not like you know,

924
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: an offensive line was going to wear a number nineteen

925
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: or something. So I get it. But I'm just saying

926
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: in general, you're so used to but hey, listen, it's

927
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: going to sell more apparel, you know. I think when

928
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL, you know a lot of times

929
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: is according to you know things I read the point

930
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: of emphasis is there really beyond taunting this year? Okay,

931
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: so you want to see guys have fun, but there's

932
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: a fine line when you know, when you get to

933
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: the end zone, as long as you're celebrating by yourself

934
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: and then in your teammates joined in like the pictures,

935
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: that's fine. The NFL can be known as a little

936
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: bit being a little stuffy at times, so I'm glad

937
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: they're letting the players have some personality out there, and

938
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: it's not going to affect the game. It's just going

939
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: to be looked a little different. But Kurtswright, he would know.

940
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer, and one thing he had

941
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: when he broke the huddle, he knew exactly where he

942
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: wanted to go through that ball, So that's interested. I'm

943
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: glad you told me that. Yeah, the taunting not directed

944
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: at celebrations, but more the pointing of fingers standing over

945
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: a player on the ground. That's the point of emphasis.

946
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Some other rule changes, no overtime in the preseason. I'm

947
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: not exactly sure why that didn't become a reality when

948
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: preseason games were even started in the National Football League.

949
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: That'll be a one year experiment. As far as receiving

950
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: team on hiccoffs limited to nine players within twenty five

951
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: yards of the ball. This isn't an attempt to kind

952
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: of make it easier to recover onside kicks. We'll see

953
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: what happens. This interesting stat though, recovering teams three of

954
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: sixty seven on side kicks were recovered three of sixty seven,

955
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: so that is what they're trying to do. And then,

956
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: of course, what we also talked about on a previous

957
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: episode of Cardinals Cover two, the expansion of the influence

958
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: or impact of replay officials. No sky judge, but now

959
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: you've got someone in the press box given the authority

960
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: to consult referees on quote specific objective aspects of a

961
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: play when clear and obvious video evidence is present. And

962
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly how it's written in the language of the rule.

963
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: You can't have a flag picked up or throne, but

964
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: you can have that third party if you will offer

965
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: some advice. Again, it's not a sky judge, but it

966
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: is another set of eyes to kind of get the

967
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: play right. And at the end of the day, MJ,

968
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: that's what we want, get the play right, because if

969
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: you and I can see it on television, then I

970
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: think that is what the league wants to get right.

971
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: When the calls that fans see and then all of

972
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: a sudden doesn't get overturned or called, that's when problems happen. Yeah,

973
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: you want to eliminate the big mistakes, especially on you know,

974
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: primetime games, and when you get to the postseason, you

975
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: just don't. You don't want to, you know, because usually

976
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: a football game comes down to five to seven plays

977
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: and we yes, if you miss the field goal with

978
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: two seconds on the clock, that caught you the game.

979
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: But for the most part. But the key is here though,

980
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: is is we're talking about humans playing the game and

981
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about humans officiating the game. There's going to

982
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: be mistakes. It's easy when they go to the slow mo.

983
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: It's a bang bang play. So I always give them

984
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a safety net. But at the

985
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: same time, they get judged and great at what they

986
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: do when they're in a regular season, so there's just

987
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: checks and balances. But at the end of the day,

988
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a judgment game. They're subjective calls.

989
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: You're never going to get at all, Right, But I

990
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: thought last year they let them play a little bit

991
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: more and I was impressed with that. Yeah, it's always

992
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: going to be one of those games that you'd strive

993
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: for perfection, but you never quite get to. And I

994
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: don't think we want to get to that point because,

995
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: as you said, it's played by humans. There is human

996
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: error and sometimes things get missed. Players miss stuff, coaches

997
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: miss stuff, so it's to be expected that the officials

998
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: on the field miss stuff as well. Which you don't

999
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: want to see is late in games, when games are

1000
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: decided by those mistakes that could easily be corrected based

1001
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: off a replay. And I think that's where we're wanting

1002
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: to get in twenty twenty one. Yeah, I mean you

1003
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: don't want them to be reckless because they're trying to

1004
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: cover their backside. I mean, if it's blatant and that's

1005
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: where you know a virtual river on has to come in.

1006
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: You know that. That's why they have in New York.

1007
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: But at least now they do have a replay official

1008
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: at every stadium and sometimes they'll they'll buzz down they

1009
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: want to look at a play. But I'm glad you

1010
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: brought up the definition of it, so you know, extra

1011
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: eyes don't hurt and hopefully they make the correct call

1012
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: where you know that doesn't slow the game down. I

1013
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: think the average last year for instant replay was two

1014
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: minutes and twenty six seconds. I think they probably want

1015
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: to get that down to ninety seconds. All right, MJ.

1016
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: The next time that you and I have the opportunity

1017
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: to address the Bird Gang will be after the first

1018
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: round of the twenty twenty one NFL drafts. You can

1019
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: be all right between these next couple of days and

1020
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: the excitement level, and of course we're all anxious as well. Yeah,

1021
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, just like last year, I'll be

1022
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: at home on Thursday and Friday, and we'll get back

1023
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: to the facility on Saturday, which we haven't done in

1024
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: a long time at least possibly, and so I'll go

1025
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: get my snacks. I'll have Riley hanging with me, I'll

1026
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: have a couple of computers up, and I'm going to

1027
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I mean, it's like I said, it's the

1028
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: best reality show going. Well, until then, Bird Gang, we

1029
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: will put a lid on this episode of Cardinals Cover two,

1030
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: presented by Unday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

1031
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amandro For Mike Jareckie,

1032
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Reel Lou. The twenty twenty one NFL Draft

1033
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: is straight ahead. We'll cover it for you here on

1034
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two.