1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. The Giants part of the Giants Podcast. Welcome 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Giant Huttle Podcast. I am 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: John Schmilcats. All brought to you by PSC and J 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Energy Efficiency for game time and anytime. Visit p SEG 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: dot com slash Giants for discounts, rebates and home energy assessments. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us today, everybody. This is our 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: normal Friday podcast. We're gonna have the head coach of 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the Giants, Brian Dable, he's with Bob Papa previewing the 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: Houston Texans with Lance Medal and Paul the Tino. You're 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: gonna have former defensive lineman Seth Payne who covers the 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: team for Sports Radio six ten in Houston. And you 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: get on my interview with Giants linebacker Jalen Smith. But 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: first a reminder, we've had a lot of Giant Huddle 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: episodes this week, so make sure you go back and 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: check out the ones we did earlier. You go back 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: three episodes ago. We had at our reporters roundtable, Post 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Schwartz or stable Thing, Kim Jones and I kind of 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: just talk Giants at the Bye You two episodes ago, 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: we're back with our Poppa's Perspective edition of the Gihnts 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Little Podcast. He talks to Rashan Jennings about a big 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: game he had against the Texans eight years ago and 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: about his time with the Giants. Actually a really interesting 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: stuff from Rashad there about some past Giant team leadership 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: and things like that. And then the prior episode. Make 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: sure you go check it out. This really is a 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: must listen to everybody. I have a nice one on 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: one with the great Brian Baldinger from Baldy's Breakdowns in 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: NFL Network, and we talk about the Giants and where 30 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: they are, and we preview the match up against the 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Texans a little bit as well. All right, let's get 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: to it. My interview with Giants linebacker Jalen Smith. Jalen, 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: how was the bye week and and the ascents based 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: on how your you and your teammates have come back 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: that it came at the right time. Yeah, yeah, you 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: know anytime you you you get an opportunity to to 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: get away after a nice start, a nice stretch. Um 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: is good for your mental uh, good for your souls, good, 39 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: good for the team. It feels good to be back. Um. 40 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: We got after today flying around, UM, you know, prepping 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: for our next game against He was for you. You 42 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: were probably just kind of revving up though, right because 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: you weren't here for all of camp in the whole season. 44 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Were you kind of just hitting your stride? Did you 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: maybe want to keep going a little bit? Yeah? I'm 46 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: a competitor. Uh, you know, so any any chance I 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: get to to to to get out there and help 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the team, that's what I want to do. Um. You 49 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: know me coming in what after the week three or 50 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: week four? Joining the team. UM, I've had a blast 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: just getting getting to know everybody. Um I came for 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I came here last year, Um the last month of 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the season, so a lot of similar faces. Also a 54 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: lot of new faces with new coaches and things like that. 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: So it's just a blessing to be a part of 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: a great group and we're all hungry. I was gonna 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: ask you, was it weird? You know, because you're here 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: at the end of last year, then you're not here 59 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: for a decent part of the off season. You get 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: in here, you know after a month or so, same building, 61 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: same cafeteria, same food. Everything's the same, but all the 62 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: coaches and the schemes are completely different. Was that a 63 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: weird dichotomy if you to kind of get used to 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: The food is delicious, by the way, shout out in 65 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the crew. Um. Yeah, just a just a different vibe, 66 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: a different energy. UM. You know I can feel it, 67 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, me being a vet now year seven. Um, 68 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you you kind of understand the chemistry of the team. 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: UM and it shows, you know. But for us, we're 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: like I said, We're dialed in, We're locked in. We 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: we got a lot to prove um. And this is 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: just the beginning. We got a nice start. But the 73 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: only thing that matters is what we do. Now. What 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: is it you like about wings defense and how he's 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: using you? Um? I just love his tenacity. I love 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: his tenacity. He gets after it. He believes in his guys. Um. 77 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, he he tries to maximize um, everyone's potential 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: and capabilities. UM. And you got to earn it. And 79 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: that's what I love for me being in the middle, um, 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: kind of quarterback of the defense. The type of vibe 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: is something that I'm used to and I'm just thankful 82 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: to to to be able to contribute, um and make 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: sure I work my ass off every day and you're 84 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: can be missing a big part of your defense this 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: week they even make is gonna be out at least 86 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: four games with an injury. Um, what does that loss 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: mean to your defense? And how can you and the 88 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: rest of the guy's help make up for him not 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: being out there? You know? Uh, you know, ex, he's 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: a he's a competitor, um, you know. And and that's 91 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing about it when you we don't 92 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: have a guy like him out there. You know, he 93 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: wants to be out there with us. Uh, but he 94 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: is gonna be with us. Um. Just prayers to him 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: and then for us as a group, we gotta we 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: gotta grind. That's the next man up mentality. Um. We 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: gotta do whatever it takes to to get the job 98 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: done and get the wind. So that's that's what our 99 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: main focus is. Now. He was the coach's calm guy. 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: He had the green dot. Now Julian is gonna get it. 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: That's a job you had in Dallas before you came here. 102 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: So how can you help Julian now? Communicate back to 103 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: front absolutely? Uh, you know, big, The biggest thing for 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: me is is making sure everybody is locked in and loaded. Um, Julian, 105 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: get the call in, get the call to me, and 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: it's my job to make sure that the defensive line 107 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: has it. Um. You know, the linebackers, um are are 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: locked in and and and ready to go. So communication 109 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: is something that I'm used to, like I said, being 110 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: in the middle. Um, you know, for my career, I'm 111 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with it. Um. You know, having Juju being 112 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame guy as well as you know, the 113 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: chemistry is naturally there. Uh. We got a big win 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend versus Clemson, so at home, so it is. 115 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: It's a great, great chemistry, great vibes, love being here 116 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: in the Big Apple, and um, we're gonna do whatever 117 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: it takes to get a win. So that's that's the 118 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: only thing that matters. Weird maybe is the wrong word, 119 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit different for your pre snap 120 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: not having that coach's calm responsibility and having to communicate 121 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: to the rest of the guys what calls coming in? 122 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you like? Not having that is strange, not being 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: the guy of having someone else do it and you 124 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: being on the field too. I'm a guy that's a 125 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: sponge I'm a natural the natural leader. So whether I 126 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: have the green daughter or not, UM, the team, the 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: defense will fill my presence. Um. It's something I probably 128 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: myself phone, but it's also a gift from So I'm 129 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: just thankful for the ability to be out there. The 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing for me is what can I do to 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: help add value to this team? And um, you know, 132 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I know I can still play this game at a 133 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: high level, which I have since I got in the league. 134 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: And and the only thing that matters, like I said, 135 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: is what we do now. So I look forward to 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: to Sunday. Um, but we got to continue to prepare 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: the right way. So that's that, that's what we'll do. 138 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: Before I ask you about the opponent real quick. You've 139 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: had a front row seat to the job Dexter Lawrence 140 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: has done this year, playing behind it a lot. What 141 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: is it like watching that big man go to work 142 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: and you sometimes reaping the benefits of him getting a 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of attention? Absolutely? Uh, big sexy, he's Uh, he's 144 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's that's passionate, um about the game, 145 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: and he plays it the right way. So you love um, 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, For me as a linebacker, I love being 147 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: behind those guys being behind you know, Dex and Jelly 148 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: and Leo, UM, Hottie, we've we played together before. So 149 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: just the chemistry to tenacity. We all want to do 150 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: a great job. So UM, it's it's in the preparation 151 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: and that's something we're always constantly talking about. It's like, Okay, 152 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: how can I help UM free these guys up so 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: they can go be the players that they are. UM, 154 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: and then you know vice versa that works, that works 155 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: hand in hand, all right. Watching Damian Pierce on tape, boy, 156 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that guy's a bowling ball. Huh. He can make it miss. 157 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: He bounces off, you know, shoulder tackles. What's the challenge 158 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: you guys have in slowing him down and the rest 159 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: of that Texans offense. Um, you have to respect the game. 160 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,119 Speaker 1: And when you watch it and you see it's played 161 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the right way. You see UM, a guy that that 162 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: runs the ball the right way, you gotta respect it. 163 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: UM or Campbell type of vibe. UM. So just it's 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a great challenge. Is it's something that we're 165 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to. UM. You know, we're gonna see what 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: what what our defense is made up made up of? 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: But UM, you gotta give credit where credits do. Um. 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: But like I said, we're going to continue to prepare 169 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the right way, um and get ready to get after it. Jellen. 170 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Good stuff, man, that's the luck on Sunday against the Texas. 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks for having me brother. Hey, Giant fans, 172 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: join us back in MetLife Stadium next Sunday, November twenty 173 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: to watch the Giants take on the Detroit Lions. Limited 174 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: tickets are available. Visit Giants dot com slash tickets to 175 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: secure your seat. Today. That's Giants linebacker Jalen Smith. Interesting 176 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff from him. Unfortunately our time is a little bit 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: short and other stuff I wanted to get into, but 178 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: we ran out of time. Um, But we thank you 179 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: for joining us. Good stuff from Jalen. Now let's turn 180 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: our attention to the Giants opponent this week. The Houston 181 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: Texans are very own. Lance Meadow and Paul Detino had 182 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Seth Payne, former defensive lineman 183 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: that covers the team for Sports Radio six ten in Houston. 184 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Giants returned from their bye week with a two game 185 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: homestand and first up in week ten and MetLife Stadium 186 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: is the Houston Texans to get more into this week's opponent, 187 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: were now joined by a man who played eleven seasons 188 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Is a defensive lineman for the Jaguars 189 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: and the Texans. You can now hear him on Sports 190 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Radio six ten in Houston, none other than Seth Payne. 191 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Sethi got Lance Meadow with Paul Latino here on Giants 192 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: dot Com. Greatly appreciate the time. Hopeball as well has 193 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: everything on your end. It's it's good, you know, just 194 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: your typical drama that comes with being a one win 195 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: football team. Uh in November, there's one thing to be 196 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: a one win football team in September, there might seem 197 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: some semblance of hope. But we are where we are 198 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: and we're kind of trying to figure out what we 199 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: can figure out about this team for the rest of 200 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: the year. Completely understandable, and actually that's where I want 201 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: to start. Because you look at the record. You say, Okay, 202 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the Texans are having their fair share of issues, which 203 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: is well documented. But with that being said, set five 204 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: of their eight games have been decided by one score, 205 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: so they've been in a relatively high volume of their contest. 206 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot to digest. But if you 207 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: had to pick one major issue one achilles heel, what 208 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: would it be for the Texans this season? I think 209 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: I think the run defense is the thing that's really 210 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: keeping them from being able to close out some of 211 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: these games. They are they they are a weird team 212 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: in their ability to hang around until the fourth quarter. 213 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: And but I wouldn't call them a team that's had 214 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: bad luck or anything. I think in the fourth quarter, 215 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the talent of the opponent takes over and you can 216 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: see these opponent is certainly a better football team. I 217 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: think that what happens is they just can't close these 218 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: games out. Um, the defense is bend but don't break, 219 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: and they ultimately break in the fourth quarter. And then meanwhile, offensively, 220 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: obviously you don't have the firepower. UM. I think Davis 221 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Mills has not taken a step forward. If anything, he 222 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: might have regressed a little bit this year, but he 223 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: also doesn't really have a lot of weaponry at tight end. Um. 224 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks isn't the same guy was the year before, 225 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: and then there's extra drama added on top of it 226 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: because he's unhappy about not getting traded. But the I 227 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: I think that what say Colon Barkley and Daniel Jones 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: and the Giant offensive line is looking forward to this 229 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: week is that the Texans are just a bad run defense. Well, 230 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: let me flip with those of the other shot and 231 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: talk about off the Texans offense and they're running game 232 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: because Damian peers to me would get my mid season 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: vote for NFL Rookie of the Year. I don't know 234 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 1: exactly how great the offensive line has blocked, but I 235 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: know this every time that I look at Piers on 236 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: the highlights of the clips or even getting to watch 237 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: half a game, the guy is pretty good. Yeah, he 238 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: really really is. I mean, we talked to people out 239 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: of the University of Florida who who were, like frankly 240 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: still angry that he didn't get more carries and more 241 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: touches when he was in Florida. They sight Damian Pierce 242 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: as one of the big reasons why you could tell 243 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: that it was a time for Dan Mullen to go. Um. 244 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: He's just he's the right kind of kid. You can 245 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: tell when he runs that he's tenacious. He's fourth in 246 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the NFL in yardage after contacts per carry, and you 247 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: know amongst rookies, he's by far the highest rookie in 248 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: that regard, and and when you talk to him, he's 249 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: just the right kind of personality too. He's he's always 250 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: deflecting attention. You know, you asked me my question about himself. 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: He talked about the offensive line, he talked about the team. UM, 252 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: and he's just a very very high energy guy. So 253 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: we we have him here and it's probably a little 254 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: bit like you guys have had it with Sae Kwon 255 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: Barkley at times. UM, you feel like, Okay, we've got this, uh, 256 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: this guy with pistons for legs, and uh, we can't 257 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: do anything with him right now because he's a young 258 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: running back and it's just not uh it feels a 259 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: little bit wasted at this point. Well, speaking of that, 260 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: let's piggyback over that point set because one of the 261 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: things you mentioned off the top was Davis Mills doesn't 262 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: necessarily have a lot of weapons around him, and that's 263 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: probably why they're lacking explosive plays. Then again, this is 264 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: year two for him and Pep Hamilton, who was his 265 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: passing game coordinator now his offensive coordinator. The touchdown to 266 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: interception ratio may not jump off the page, but he's 267 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: done a fairly good job of protecting the ball. Where 268 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: have you seen his biggest development from last season when 269 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: he was thrust into the mix of this year. I 270 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of the pre snap stuff when it 271 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: comes to getting into the right protection, when it comes 272 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: to checking into the right run plays. We saw that 273 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: versus Philadelphia, as as good as Philadelphia is um the 274 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: text and taps and success running the ball kind of 275 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: at will at times. Versus Philadelphia, they were without Jordan Davis, 276 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: as you guys know, the stud rookie nose tackle there, 277 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: but a lot of that was Davis Mills checking into 278 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the right run. So that part of it, he's gotten better. 279 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: I think he's gotten better in some regards that handling 280 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: the blitz and anticipating the blitz so he gets his 281 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: hot he throws to his hot rots more quickly. I 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: think part of where he just hasn't progressed is just 283 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: in the genuine ability to push the ball down field, 284 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: to move within the pocket, you know, not necessarily to scramble. 285 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: He's never gonna be a Daniel Jones type of runner um, 286 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: but he's got to be able to move, create space 287 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and still throw downfield. And he just hasn't developed that 288 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: side of his game this year. We know about the 289 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: issues involved being Brandon Cooks, the trade rumors, and all 290 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the drama that surrounds him, so I won't even go there. 291 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about two guys who intrigued me. 292 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: O J. Howard, who seems to have never lived up 293 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: to his potential thus far in the NFL, and Nico Collins. 294 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: When he came out of school as as a number 295 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: three draft choice, I thought was actually going to be 296 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: more of an impact player than he's been. What can 297 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: you tell me about those two guys? Yeah, you know, 298 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: O J. Howard came in and was was a little 299 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: bit of a flash initially and since then has been 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of maybe how you described him with his career 301 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: hasn't done a whole lot um. And then you asked 302 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: about REVN Jordan's Uh Nico Collins. Oh, Nico Collins. I 303 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: apologize sorry, um Nico Collins. Nico Collins has taken some 304 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: steps forward and he you know, he's banged up last week, 305 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that is never gonna really get 306 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: great separation. I don't think he has really good speed, 307 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: but it's not that sudden type of speed where when 308 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: he did where you can just take off from somebody 309 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: out of a break um. But he comes, he goes 310 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: up and competes for the fifty balls. He's got very 311 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: very good size, and I think he knows how to 312 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: use it. He's gonna be best when he can be 313 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: used in compliment with somebody like Brandon Cooks. And that's 314 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: that's where the big question is now, is okay, it's 315 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: nice to get if you have Nico Collins and Brandon 316 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Cooks is going to take some of the safety help 317 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: away from Nico Collins and he'll have more one on 318 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: one opportunities. Brandon Cooks just hasn't been quite the same 319 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: guy this year, and now he's miss the last couple 320 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: of games after being upset about not getting traded, and 321 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: nobody really knows what's going on there um or what 322 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of drama there is, and we don't really know 323 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: if he's uh, you know, it's like what his status 324 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: is from week to week. At this point, we're talking 325 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: with former NFL defensive lineman Seth Pain. We could hear 326 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten in Houston. Clearly, the function 327 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: of the offense set, as you can attest to, was 328 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: always tied to the play of the offensive line. We 329 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: were talking about the rush attack, But what I think 330 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people overlook is the Texans interior line 331 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: this year is brand new. There are two guards and 332 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: then Scott Quisantbury replacing Justin Brick who's been out since 333 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Week two. What have you seen out of that group specifically, 334 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: because they seem to be in great shape with their 335 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: bookends there two tackles. Yeah, you're exactly right on that. 336 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I think that they they're pretty solid on the edges. Um. 337 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: I think the run blocking, if both those physicians, has 338 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: been better than it has been in the past. Larry 339 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Thumpswell seems to be more engaged as a run blocker. 340 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: He's always been a good pass blocker, but he's more 341 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: engaged as a run block of this year, the center 342 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and the two guards have been an issue. Um, some 343 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: of that's because of injuries. You know, Scott Quisinberry is 344 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: a backup who's going to be the starter for the 345 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: rest of the season. Kenyan Green, the left guard, is 346 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: the first rounder who he looks like he's going through 347 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: that classic struggle of being a guy who is a big, 348 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: physical kind of bully of a guy. In college and 349 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: you know, and doing it in the SC he see's 350 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: doing it at a high level, but realizing and understanding 351 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: that you gotta use technique in the NFL. So there's 352 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: times where there's times where you'll see him being very 353 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: physical and very dominant. But then here's other times where 354 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna see him get bull rushed right back into 355 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So the consistency there with Kenyan Greene Justice 356 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and there yet, um, and you see it in flashes. 357 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: I was he had a tough go of it. You know, 358 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row, he had he had the 359 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Titan with that interior defensive line, then he had the Eagles, 360 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: who are pretty staunch on their own regard. So hopefully 361 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: over those last couple of weeks he's learned something. Um, 362 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: but he is. Yeah, the Giants will have opportunities versus him. 363 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: All right, let me flip it to the other side 364 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: and seth. I gotta ask you about the fountain of 365 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: youth here with Jerry Hughes. The guy seems like he's 366 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: been playing in this league for an awful long time, 367 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: and yet here he stands sixth in the National Football 368 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: League with seven sacks. Yeah, and uh, you know Brian 369 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: dave Ball, I know he referenced him in the conference 370 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: call the other day. He was him from Buffalo obviously, 371 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: and has a lot of respect for him. Jerry Hughes 372 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: is a guy who grew up in Houston. We kept 373 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: getting words through the grapevine all offseason long. You know, 374 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: he still wanted to play football even though he's thirty 375 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: four years old, and he really really wanted to play 376 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: for the Texans, and ultimately it worked out. They eventually 377 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: signed him. I think they're getting exactly what they want 378 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: on of him, which is a a guy who's you know, 379 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: on pace right now to be double digit sacks. He'd 380 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: be he'd be the first guy since J. J. Watt 381 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: have double digit sacks for the Texans. But he's also 382 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: he's the type of veteran player that nicktary Of, the 383 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: general manager, wanted to bring in and kind of set 384 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: a template for Hey, we might be a bad football team, 385 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: but we need to be sure that these young guys 386 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: see the way it's supposed to be done. And they 387 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: tried to have a couple of these guys at each position, 388 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: or at least that every you know position. Uh, you know, 389 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey is a middle linebacker who's a you know, 390 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: kind of a journeyman contre type of guy, but does 391 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: things the right way. On the offensive line, you've got 392 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: a veteran or two. Um, it's the wide receiver group. 393 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: You have Brandon Cooks who which is again the irony 394 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: is Brandon Cooks is the guy who's supposed to teach 395 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: guys how to be professional and do things the right way. 396 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: It looks like he went a wall for a couple 397 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: of weeks, so, uh, you know it's because his feelings 398 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: were hurt. We don't know what We don't know exactly 399 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: what the story is, but um, Jerry Hughes. Jerry Hughes 400 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: is one of the actual threats on the defensive line. 401 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: Malik Collins, the defensive tackle, is another guy who's on 402 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: a relatively short term deal but gets pressure, doesn't show 403 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: up as a sack, but he's a veteran guy that 404 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: they can play in this lovely Smith style of defense. 405 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: He's been banged up the last couple of weeks, so 406 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: him getting back to help is going to be a 407 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: crucial thing for the Sexan defense says, not to get 408 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: off topic, but the other thing that's quite comical is 409 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Brandon cook signed a two year extension this offseason with 410 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: the team, so you'd figure if you committed to the team, 411 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: it's understandable. Maybe they don't work out a trade and 412 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: they hold onto It's you know, honestly, it's been so 413 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: dysfunctional around here for two or three years now, and 414 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: we we kind of felt like after the Texans fire 415 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: their vice president of football operations, Jack Easterby, a guy 416 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: who's you know, had some articles written about him and 417 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: was always a curious figure with the Texans, we felt 418 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: like that was gonna be the end of the dysfunction. 419 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: And then lo and behold. You know, Brandon Cooks, who 420 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: has had a long relationship with Jack Easterby, seems to 421 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: seems to have become very disgruntled after the departure of 422 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: Jack Easterby. Uh is that are they related? Are they not? 423 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, But it was like that one extra 424 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: dose of dysfunction when yeah, the guy that's supposed to 425 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: be the model citizen in your locker room is just 426 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: upset and absent um. What we hope here in Houston 427 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: is that this this will finally be the last bit 428 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: of extreme dysfunction that drama never ends in the National 429 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Football League. I think that's well document did, regardless of 430 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: the team and so forth. That's the beauty, I guess 431 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: and frustration of the league. I want to bounce back 432 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, and we started 433 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: with the rushing defense and how much they've struggled clearly 434 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: dead last they've given up a hundred one rushing yards. 435 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: You brought up MALIEK Collins who's missed the last two 436 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: games with a chest injury. So two part question for 437 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: you said, if he gets back out there in returns, 438 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: how much does that help you think the run defense? 439 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: And the return of Christian Harris, who started the season 440 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: on I R. I think he's played about three games. 441 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: What can he perhaps do to help boost the front seven? Yeah, 442 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: MALIEK Collins should help, but they've you know, they've struggled 443 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: with him and struggled without him, but they're that much 444 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: worse without him. Christian Harris is the guy that we're 445 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: hoping makes a difference in the second half of the 446 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: season because he missed almost all of training camp. If 447 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: he didn't get any time even you know, against his 448 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: own team, much less than preseason games. And then missed 449 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: the start of the season. Well, he was on I R. 450 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: So he's still getting his legs underneath him and he'll 451 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: flash and do some things really well, but then at 452 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: other times to look like a rookie. I'm pretty optimistic 453 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be a good football player. We just 454 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: have to see it all come together. Um. And then 455 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: you know, the other guys at the linebacker positions, Christian 456 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Christian Curtsey and um Gary Wallo is playing a lot 457 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: right now. They're they're rotating a few guys in there 458 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: right now. They're they're kind of suspect too. They've had 459 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: a rough go of it. So that's front seven has 460 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: those two veteran guys up front that we talked about, 461 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and then maybe Christian Harris as we as we move along. 462 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately that the back end of the 463 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: defense is the strength of this defense. They do as 464 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: bad as they are between the twenties, they tend to 465 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: tighten up in the red zone. They haven't given up 466 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: a whole lot of passing touchdowns. Um. You know, for 467 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: for a while there at the beginning of the season, 468 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: they're actually a pretty highly ranked red zone defense. Now 469 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: they've fallen down to earth a little bit. But when 470 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: they get in to the red zone, the fact that 471 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: they have uh at least a competent core of guys 472 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: in the second area that starts to help the defense out. 473 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Those guys can cover smaller spaces, and that's that's another 474 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that the Texans have been able 475 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: to stick around with teams that they give up a 476 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of yardage, but then somehow figure out a way 477 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to turn touchdowns into field goals. You know, seth. Rookies 478 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: make rookie mistakes and that's just the nature of the business. 479 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: And the question becomes, then how often does the other 480 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: team take advantage of those? Well, the Texans spent a 481 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of draft capital on grabbing Stingley in the first 482 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: round and Petrie in the second round, and yet those 483 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: guys seem to have held up pretty well, at least 484 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: from a far. What has been their secret to not 485 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: making as many fatal mistakes, perhaps as other rookies might. 486 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: I think I think some of it is simply that 487 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith has played pretty conservative at times. And you know, 488 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: it's it's not the Tampa two of the early two thousands, 489 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: um or or what it might have been you know 490 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: down in you know, either in Chicago and Tampa are 491 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: different places that Lovey has been. They've modernized their defense somewhat, 492 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: but they still play a lot of zone and they 493 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: still play some soft zones at times. So Stingley and 494 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: then you know, some of the talk this week around 495 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: here has been okay, you know, Stingley is doing okay, 496 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: But Sauce Gardner, who was taken after, you know, one 497 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: pick after Derek Stingley was taken by the Texas, it 498 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: seems to be an emerging star in the league. And 499 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: in my opinion on it is that I think that 500 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: the Jets a are much better defense. So it's a 501 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: lot easier to be a good defensive player when you're 502 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: on a good defense. Um, but be, I think the 503 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Jets are really using Sofce Gardener up to his level 504 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: of ability. They're they're putting pressure on him, you know, 505 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: even when they play zone, it's it tends to be 506 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: a little bit more of an aggressive cover three type 507 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: of like almost like a combo man zone thing where 508 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner is able to make plays. Um, Singley has 509 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: been asked to do less and be because of that, 510 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: you know, you're taking a guy who's a man corner 511 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: and that was supposed to be his calling guard. That 512 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: this guy can hopefully be a Durell Reeva's type of guy. 513 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: In a lot of times, you just see him playing 514 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: a soft cushion, coming up and and making plays and 515 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: don't coverage. It's not highlight material stuff. And what we 516 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: hope is that it's just a matter of that being 517 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: on a bad defense that's playing software's don't coverage mid 518 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Over time, you know, next year, with a better defense 519 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully more aggressive defensive play calls, that will see 520 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: more of that. But right now, you know, it looks 521 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: like Sauce Gardner has gotten up to the early lead. 522 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: We we know how that goes usually over the first 523 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: few seasons. Um A few guys that look creatile all 524 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: look the opposite and vice versa. So we'll wait and 525 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: see on that seth will. There's been a lot of 526 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: talk clearly about the rookies and the secondary. The Texans, 527 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: let's face it, they revamped their secondary. They also brought 528 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: in a handful of veterans and one other player I 529 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: want to highlight because he also is their punt returner, 530 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: is Desmond King, who made a name for himself when 531 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: he's with the Chargers early in his career seven passes defense, 532 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: What is he brought to the back end of this defense? Oh, 533 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And this is okay. This is 534 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: one of the frustrating things about the Texas defense is 535 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: that on any given Sunday or the rare Thursday night, 536 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Denz King, Stephen Nelson, Jalen Petrie, these defensive acts, those 537 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: will be the hardest hits on the Texans defense. It's 538 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: rarely a linebacker. It's rarely a defensive lineman. Um, you know. 539 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: And it's not you know, it's not uncommon for the 540 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: dvs to have the biggest hits because their position to 541 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: do it. But those are the guys that are that 542 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: are playing like dogs, you know, like, those are the 543 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: guys that are out there and look like they get 544 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: it and and I think that's those are again the 545 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: types of veteran players that you want setting an example 546 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: for those guys. It's just a shame because you you'd 547 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: love to see it out of the front seven guys 548 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: at some point. But Dez King, uh, Dez King, who 549 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: might play a little less slot now that Tabier Thomas 550 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: is back, there'll be a little bit more flexible now, um, 551 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: because they have a little more man on power in 552 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. But you'll you'll probably see him come 553 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: up and either have at least one good run as 554 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: a part returner in the game or come up and 555 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: make a hit. And um, he's the guy too. You know, 556 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: started off really hot in his career. Was it made 557 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: a promo with All Pro his rookie here and it 558 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: was a charge and and it just didn't work out 559 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So we're trying to skeptical about what 560 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: he would bring to the table. I don't know if 561 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: he matured. I don't know if it was just a 562 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: bad bit earlier in his career, but he has been 563 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: everything you want out of a veteran player like that. 564 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: So he's Um, I wish the team were better because 565 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: I think he'd be getting more attention. Is the right 566 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of guy. I got to watch the game against Philadelphia, 567 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: and the one thing that at least it looked like 568 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: until they ran out of steam I guess midway through 569 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: the third quarter is that they are playing for love Smith. 570 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: Do you get the sense that that he hasn't lost 571 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: these guys? Yeah? I think I think so. Um, and 572 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, they've got a pretty good blend here of 573 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: veteran players and rookie players and and now they played 574 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of rookies. They'll be eight, nine, maybe ten 575 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: rookies starting this week. Um, you know, depending on who 576 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: ends up being active. So those guys are always gonna 577 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: be hungry. But I think that Sarrio again, I wanted 578 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: to sign guys that he figured could be good in 579 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: a in a rough situation because these you know, these 580 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: last two years, they knew that it probably wasn't gonna 581 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: be a winning playoff type of scenario and they just 582 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: they they miss judge with Brandon Cooks or something happened. 583 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: But otherwise, I think they've got pretty good dudes out there, 584 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: and and that goes a long way. And I think 585 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: love Be Smith is part of that. You know, he's 586 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's no nonsense, but he's also no bs. 587 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: He's uh, he doesn't waste a whole lot of time. Um. 588 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, Look, I played for Tom Coughlin, and uh, 589 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: Coughlin is a different type of guys and Lovey Smith 590 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: there going through going through hard times with Lovey Smith 591 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: might be a little bit easier than like a guy 592 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: like who I absolutely love. They're just different types of personality. Seth, 593 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: before we let you go. I think what's interesting the 594 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: Giants are coming off there by the Texans, as we 595 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: talked about, played on Thursday night, So that's a bit 596 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: of a mini by anything to read into that as 597 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: a former player in terms of two teams maybe having 598 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: a number of days in between games or do you 599 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: not really make much of anything out of that. I 600 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: I always if it's somebody like Andy Reid or Bill 601 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: Belichick or somebody that's established as genuinely kind of a 602 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: cut above in terms of their ability to strategize, then 603 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I worry about it, I would say. And if if 604 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: we're looking at um, Brian Daball, like if we look 605 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: at the offensive masterminds of these two respective teams, Brian 606 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: day Ball versus Pet Hamilton's, I think Brian day Ball 607 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: has the has a leg up in this scenario even 608 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: though both these both these passing offenses are I mean, 609 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: I know, you look, the Technics are a weird team 610 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: in their ability to hang around. I know, I know 611 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: you guys are tired of hearing people talk about various 612 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: levels of you know, whether you're whether your record is 613 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: worth it or not. I think we're I think we're 614 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: far enough along in the season right now that the 615 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to dive into cliches about knowing how 616 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: to win or what heps. But I think the the 617 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: ability of Daniel Jones to run um makes the lack 618 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: of a passing offense less of a big deal. And 619 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: I think Brian dave Ball is really good at managing 620 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: that side of it, so UM, I think I would 621 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: get Dave all the edge in that regard. It's the 622 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: six and two Giants against the one, six and one 623 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Houston Texans in East Rutherford, New Jersey, on Sunday. He's 624 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Seth Payne, former NFL defensive lineman you can hear on 625 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six Ken in Houston. Seth greatly appreciate the 626 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: time of the insight, look forward to this weekend's game 627 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: as well as talking down the road. Thanks for joining us. 628 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: Pleasures The Giants official connected TV streaming app, Giants TV 629 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: brings original video content and game highlights on demand and 630 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: direct to Big Blue fans. Giants TV is free an 631 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Apple TV, Roku and Amazon Fire TV, and the Giants 632 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: Mobile app. Do you think Seth Payne who covers the 633 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: Texans again for six ten down in Houston. For joining us, 634 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: We thank Lance and Paul. Now it's head to our 635 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: weekly sit down. The Voice of the Giants, Bob Papa, 636 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to the head coach of 637 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: the n y G Briandable. The Giants take on the 638 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Houston Texans at MetLife Stadium, joined as always by the 639 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Giants, Brian Dable and 640 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: UH coach coming off the by, did you feel like 641 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the team was energized a little bit? Yeah. Absolutely, We've 642 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: had a good week of practice and uh, looking forward 643 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: to getting out there and MetLife Stadium in front of 644 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: our crowd and and playing some good football. All Right, 645 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: you got the Houston Texans team that comes in. They 646 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: got a very dynamic running back in Damian Piers, fourth 647 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: round pick out of Florida, and coach um, you know, 648 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: this is a guy that doesn't go down easy yards 649 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: after contact. He's third in the NFL. What makes him 650 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: so difficult to tackle? Yeah? I think he's built well, 651 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: he's got good balance and body control, and he's a 652 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: physical runner. Uh, there's not a dance a lot of 653 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: dancing with him. He gets the ball downhill and and 654 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: makes defenders deal with him, and he's and he's really 655 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 1: good at it. Quarterback Davis Mills, second year player. Uh, 656 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: he's coming along as a football player. What are some 657 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: of the things that he does well that you have 658 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: to be on your p's and qs for today. Yeah. 659 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a smart football player. You know, it 660 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: helps with that running game that they have to use 661 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: their actions and create some space back there in the 662 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: second level of the defense and makes good decisions. And 663 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have to do a good job 664 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: of of trying to get inside on him and press 665 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: the pocket and make him make quicker decisions. Statistically, their 666 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: numbers aren't great defensively, but they have some serious playmakers. 667 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: Let's start up front with Jerry Hughes, someone that you're 668 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: familiar with, you know, thirteen years the guys still getting 669 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: it done. Seven sacks already this season. Um, just talk 670 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: about the challenges that he poses for your front. Yeah, 671 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: he's a very smart football player. He's got good first 672 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: step quickness, he's got a variety of pass must moves, 673 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: and he does a good job when he's when he's 674 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: on those tackles set in the edge of the running game, 675 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: and you know, he's slippery. He's just a crafty veteran 676 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of football plays for their team. 677 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: Then on the back end, they got a couple of 678 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: rookies Stingley the first round draft pick, Pete Tree the 679 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: second round draft pick, and those guys have shown an 680 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: ability to make plays as well. Yeah, Petrie's a very 681 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: productive player. He's downhill, he's instinctive in the running game. 682 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: He does a good job of reading the quarterback in 683 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: the passing game. And and sting Le is, you know, 684 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: a high draft pick corner who's got good cover skills. 685 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: He can play zone, he can play man. He's got 686 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: good speed to the ball and and good makeup speed 687 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: when he's you know, jumping on crossing routes and in cuts. Um. 688 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Good football player, coach. Um. You know. Statistically, uh, they've 689 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: struggled and stopping the run. But as we saw in 690 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: the game against Philadelphia, they did a pretty good job 691 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: of dealing with the run and then the game got 692 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: broken open late. Do fans and media sometimes oversimplify things 693 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: and just say, well, they should just run the ball 694 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: because they're not that good at it. Yeah, you know, 695 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: every team in the league is trying to improve on 696 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: things that you know, maybe aren't where they wanted to be. 697 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: And you know, numbers again are numbers. They could have 698 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: a couple of really rough games with a number skyrocket 699 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: on him. Um, this this team is a good football team. 700 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: That's that's playing well, Um, coached well, and you know 701 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do a good job of of 702 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: blocking their movement upfront, their extra defender down in the box. Um, 703 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: they'll be they'll be ready for our for our run game. 704 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: Obviously coming off the by earlier in the week, the 705 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: news about Xavier McKinney. So you've got to find other 706 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: ways to kind of fill that role. Is it kind 707 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: of by committee in which you'll try to fill some 708 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: of the things that he does well? Yeah, I know 709 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: Wink always talks about a position list defense. Um. You know, 710 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: we have a variety of guys on the back end. 711 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: We have a lot of confidence, and we'll certainly miss Xavier. Um, 712 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: but you know, there's nothing we can do about that. Now. 713 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: We've gotta get ready to play with the guys that 714 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: we have, and we're confident in them. As you studied 715 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: your team during the bye week, Um, did some things 716 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: jump out at you in self, scout without giving away 717 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: any secrets that you're like, you know, okay, that's pretty interesting. Yeah. No, 718 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: I think Look, the bye weeks are good for to 719 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: go back and look at things as a whole. You're 720 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: always doing that during the week, Um, from the previous 721 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: week or the previous two games. Um. Yeah, there's certainly 722 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: things that we looked at in all three areas of 723 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: our football team to try to improve on. And that's 724 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: what we did this week. Did the by coming the 725 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: right time for you guys here with this stretch run coming? Um, 726 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just take them as they come, 727 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the game, whether it's you know, 728 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: flying out to Seattle, flying to England, you know, having 729 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: a bye week, you know, whatever the schedulemakers do, that's 730 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: that's how we play them. Coach, best of luck today. Thanks, 731 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. We thank Brian Dables, Seth Payne, and 732 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: of course Jalen Smith for joining us on this episode 733 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: of the Giant Subtle Podcast. Again, remind their folks just 734 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: go back and listen to those last three episodes. The 735 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: last one was Brian Ballendingger. Before that, Bob Papa talk 736 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: to Rashad Jennings, then our Reporters round Table, So go 737 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: back last three episode of the Giant Subtle Podcast check 738 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: those out, and then, of course, prior to that, if 739 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: you go to our other podcast feed, we had our 740 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: most recent Draft season as we catch everyone up on 741 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: what's going on in college football. That popped up on Monday, 742 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: So go check that out myself, Eric Crocker, Tony Pauline. 743 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Find it on your favorite podcast platform search for Giants Huddle, 744 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: search for Draft Season, or you can find it on 745 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: the Giant Small Blackbird Giants dot Com slash podcast. I'm 746 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: John Schmunk. Thanks for joining us on this episode of 747 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: the Giant Subtle Podcast. Asked we will see you next time. 748 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Everybody m