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Mine is 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: helping people wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: dreams and goals and live the very best life. These 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: are my passions and that's what I want to do 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: for you. I want you to stop tripping over small 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: life will present to you. The Money Making Conversation interviews 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: provide relatable information to the listener about career and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: overcoming the arts, and how to live a balanced life. 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: My guest established his own hair business at the age 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: of twelve. I can tell you what I was doing 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: at the age of twelve wasn't establishing of business. I 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: can tell you that he became first Lady Michelle Obama's 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: personal on Hairstyle US and helped to establish her as 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: a global beauty and style icon. I know used to 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: come on Steve Harvey Show all the time talking about 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: the experience when we're doing some co sponsorships. His client 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: listen clude Maxine Waters, Queen Latifa, Karay Washington and Regina King, 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Tameron Hall, Reese Witherspoon, Lauren London, Janelle Money, and many others. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: He is on the show to talk about his new 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: show on Vitch one. I've seen it and that laughed 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot to catch a beautician. Please welcome to Money 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Making Conversations, my man, Johnny Wright introductive. Hey man, look 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: at Johnny. You know, we gotta get a little history together. Man, 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: we just to come on the Steve Harvey Show and 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: and then I'll ask you to come out be a 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: present at the Neighborhood Awards and your your community guy. Man, 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: I always liked about you, just a regular guy. Fame 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: has been a blessing for you, but it's never taking 53 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: control of your life. Tell us about that. Oh no, 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: absolutely not. You know, I don't, honestly don't even consider 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: myself say it. I Uh, I'm just an average Joe 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: from the South Side of Chicago who had, you know, 57 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: some dreams of ascerations. And I was raised well with 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: parents who worked hard and make sure that we would 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: provided with everything that we wanted in our lives. And Um, 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: they believed in me. Um. I was raised with a 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: hair style of grandmother as well too. That's why I 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: feel like I got all of my talent from and Um. 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, I just I. I like to call myself 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: a people's person and I like to be around the people. 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be considered famous, so to speak, 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: because for me, I don't want to anybody to feel 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: that they can approach me. They can't speak to me, 68 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: they can't see me a d M or a messal 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: to anything like that. You know, I am I am. 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: I feel like with my talent, I like to say 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that I am serving my God and I'm getting rewarded 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: for it. So that's how I view it more so 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: than this journey of being famous. You know, it's really 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: interesting because that's that's true. You are to you choose 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: your words, but they're all dead on about your personality. 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Because our relationships started, I'd like to say, prior to 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: the explosion of the social media when definitely, you know, 78 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: when fame was that. You know, you know, you have 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to get your website up and running. You had to 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: have your little fan club list and all emails and 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: all that stuff. How has the explosion of the social 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: media Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and stories and all that 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: TikTok now has had an impact on building out your 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 1: brand and your growth. Oh, it's been. It's been extremely useful. 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, I'm still a little 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: old school. I do post. I do use my social 87 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: media to get information out there and to get things 88 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: out there about my business and the things that I'm doing, 89 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: But I don't post as much as most people do, 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: and I definitely don't have I don't even have a 91 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: website and all that kind of stuff. So I've been 92 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: been able to be very portuive to be connecting to 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: people through word of mouth. And you know, social media 94 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: has been great for me as well too, because that's 95 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: how I got, you know, the gig of doing what 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing now with v H one, you know, no 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: vhy They reached out to me on Facebook. The casting 98 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: company reach out to me via Facebook. Yeah, and then 99 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I came in and did a couple of auditions and 100 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: did the currency tests with them. Are then then in 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: restaurant history basically now we have twenty episodes running on 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: VA twenty and we have the number one training show 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: on VIAS one right now, and I'm very excited about 104 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: the cat the muticians. So for me, you know, I 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: see the value in um social media. I see um 106 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the need for it. I I also find it to 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: be fun. Um. The only time that I feel that, 108 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, social media could be dangerous and this is 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: a personal choice for people, is when they they make 110 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: it too important, where it becomes you know, some type 111 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: of detriments to the insecurities and all those type of things. 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: And that's when I find it to be a little, um, 113 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: not useful. But other than that, you have self control 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: and you can do that. I think um um media 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: is amazing, you know, I really Uh let's let's we 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: know we're in the middle of a pandemic and we 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: know that African Americans are overtly affected by the by 118 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: this virus that does not have a vaccine. And then 119 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: when I have a brother who has uh three or 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: four three barbershops and abautist a lot in the Washington, 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: d C. Maryland area and he just opened back up 122 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: June first, Okay, we restricted them, it's opened up. With 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: social distancing. You are. I have to say, you're an 124 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: expert in the beauty and barber industry. You hear the pain, 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: you hear the screens, you hear the frustrations. Tell us 126 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: about the impact and what what have you been able 127 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: to do to to assist, if you've been able to assist, 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: and this whole pandemic run of trying to understand when 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: we should open. I'm sure that people have called on 130 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: your advice talked to us about this time for the 131 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: beauty and barber industry, which is really suffering and struggling 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: to reopen. Absolutely, you know, I was. I had to 133 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: catch myself because in the you know, the getting you know, 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: in the middle of the COVID and the quarantine, I 135 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: saw a lot of posts on Instagram about, you know, 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: saving the restaurants and dada da da and on this 137 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about. You can still 138 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: order out, you can still get the food, you know, 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: but as a hairstyle and then the salon industry, you 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: can't do anything because you can't even be around somebody. 141 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: So we were, you know, tremendously affected by this whole thing. 142 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: And um and you know, my advict, I remember when 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: Atlanta was opening up. I remember saying, you know, I 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: have an after show with Tamar that we do every week, 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: and that week that they opened up, we had a 146 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: few Atlanta stylus come on just to talk about the 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: steps that they were taking to be safe. But you know, 148 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: it's it's hard, you know, because you want to get 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: back to work outside. I just wanted to make money 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and to support your stuff. You want to get back 151 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: to your creative being, you know. For me, I haven't 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: done hair since the show. I mean, we luckily and 153 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: thankfully we finished. We wrapped the show literally two weeks 154 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: before lockdown. We wrapped the shows that were done, and 155 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: that was the last time that I had my hand 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and some hair. But I haven't done any air to 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: me personally, you know, And I particularly mostly work with celebrities, 158 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: So there's no celebrities getting done right now, celebrity own 159 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: red carpet, there are no events happening right now, there 160 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: aren't anywhere carpets, and production is down also and nobody's 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: doing photo shoots and things like that for content. So 162 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I haven't done any hair. So it definitely affected me 163 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: in that sense, and thankfully, you know, I I you know, 164 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: I did well with the show, and I have money 165 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: in the banks, I'm okay. But you know if I 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: if I wasn't in that situation, it would be a 167 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: hard struggle for me right now. But what I can 168 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: say for those that are opening back up, make sure 169 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: that you follow all the precautions and that's necessary to 170 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: keep your stuff and your clients safe. And this is 171 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: the perfect time to raise your prices, not only because 172 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: you deserve it, but I'll out of that, it would 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: make it much easier for you to take less clients, 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,479 Speaker 1: to keep the salon not so fast. So raise your prices, 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: govern them up. It's necessarily raise those prices. That way, 176 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: you're not working much, you're not working harder as you're 177 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: working smarter and you're working more safe. My man, Johnny 178 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: right speaking to us, and uh that you know we 179 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: I used to always teach you, Johnny, come on the show. 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: We always teach you know you had the first Lady 181 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. You know you fact sometimes you calling the 182 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: show from the White House. You know are you say 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: are you say? Hey, Well, I can't talk to you 184 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: guys right now. You know we're in a secure security area. 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: You know, we just has a great conversation, So just 186 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: talk about that experience. But because being that's a powerful 187 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: role in the very important role that you played, because 188 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: you had the respect and uh the First Lady when 189 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: she was in the White House to the time. I 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: will just talk about that a little bit before we 191 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: get into the show, which is a fantastic show. VICH 192 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: wants to Catch a Beautician. Let's talk about the experience 193 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: of be being being with the First Lady and being 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: the styles of being a confident Yeah, you know, it 195 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: was just it was an amazing experience for me and 196 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I can will not change those eight years for the 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: life of me. So just a lot of things, a 198 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: lot of times. A lot of people don't know. I 199 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: moved to Los Angeles back in two thousand and seven too, 200 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: and I left three hundred clients in Chicago to potentially 201 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: have a you know, a presence on television. Of course, 202 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: that got beautifully interrupted by the First Lady and I 203 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: moved to d C to be with her for those 204 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: day years and I couldnt have acted for a better experience. 205 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: I've been to over forty five countries with her. I 206 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: was able to travel on Airport One and bright Star 207 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: and all that exclusivity and it was just an amazing 208 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: experience just to experience the first African American first family 209 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: at a bird's eye view. Was bart On the best 210 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: eight years of my life so far, and I'm so 211 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: honored to and thankful that she chose me to work 212 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: with her. So my my agent, his name is Kim 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Barbo and he's still my agents to this day. Back 214 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, maybe two two two to three, 215 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: weeks after they announced on Oprah that they were running 216 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: for candidacy, he booked me with her for extrass magazine 217 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: Zene photo shoots, and I didn't think anything of it, 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: to be honest, I wasn't too optimistic and thinking that 219 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: they were actually going to be in the wire house. 220 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: So I just took a job is paying editorial weight. 221 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I was off that day. I was like, fine, I'll 222 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: do it, and we met and we hit it off, 223 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: and then um I got calls to do her again 224 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: for Old Magazine maybe like a month later, and at 225 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: the time she wasn't doing covers, of course, she was 226 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: just doing like a little inserts and get to know 227 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: this sat life as running for president um And then 228 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: at that photo shoot between the first photo shoot and 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: the second photo shoot, I had decided to move here 230 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles and at that photo shoot when we 231 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: when we wrapped, I said to her, Hey, I'm moved 232 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to l A. And now basically like good luck, hope 233 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: you guys win. And um, I moved to l A 234 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe a week and so after that, and we were 235 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: able to keep in touch because she was in California 236 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot throughout the campaign, and campaign became more and 237 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: more intense throughout two thousand and eight, and um, she 238 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: would call me whenever she was in l A to 239 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: keep her camera ready and I did. And then when 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: it really changed for me is when I was asked 241 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: to come be with her for the first Democratic National 242 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Convention in Denver. And I was with her the whole week. 243 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: They flew me out and put me out. I was 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: looking at whole week and that's when people really saw mine. 245 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Stroke of the brush. You know, that was my first 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: time doing her hair from start to finish, and it 247 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: made an impact. And once they wanted she asked me 248 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: and moved to the DC And I did you said, 249 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: they saw they contacted you through Facebook. That's how you 250 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: got this show. Yes, Yeah, So the casting director reached 251 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: out to me directly the page book and said that 252 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: he was giving all these other artists hairstyle us to 253 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: look into. But he saw me, found me on his 254 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: own and he wanted me to come in an audition. 255 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: And I came in and did audition. They put me 256 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: on tape and then I did I think I did 257 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: a second audition, and then they did the chemistry test 258 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: in that and so everybody see me and having great chemistry. Um, 259 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: and yet cameraman y'all very very little camera. That's too. Yeah. 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That's O T T 297 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: E r. Dot Ai. When the when the idea came 298 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: to me about it, you know, and I'm gonna just 299 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: tell everybody I always try to be honest and authentic 300 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: on the show. I thought it was going to be 301 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: like an ambush show, you know what I'm saying, Like 302 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: the Cheaters type show. We know where where where we 303 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: leave people feeling bad, you know, the beauticians or whatever 304 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, and so and so so. So that was 305 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: my first thought. So when this came as to Johnny 306 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: got the new show check it out with Shawn to 307 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: go man to catch a beauticition. You know, I watched 308 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: because I watched Botch you know by Plastic, you know, 309 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: watch that then and then, like I said, Cheaters is 310 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: a closer example of it, where somebody's cheating and you 311 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: show up with a camera crew and go ha ha. 312 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: But this show, this show Man, it is not that show. 313 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody it's not that show. And if you 314 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: watch the beginning of each episode, it clearly tells you 315 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: the premise. And that's what I like to if you 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: don't know what this show is about, just wanting you 317 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: gotta need complaints and got you got some stereotypes about it, 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: which what it may be. Watched the opening the show, 319 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: it tells you exactly what it is about. And when 320 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: I saw that, when I saw the opening credits, I 321 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: was sold on the show. Johnny, I really was. That's awesome. 322 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad we did that 323 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: show explainer because we wanted people to know what the 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: show was about. And I think that it was going 325 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: to be one of those reality we make people feel 326 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: bad and people are fighting all that kind of stuff. Listen, 327 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: there is drama throughout the show. There is a little 328 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: bit of a thing, not necessarily an ambus um, but 329 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: of course that's what a sohow need to keep people attention. 330 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: But absolutely, but you know, but I would tell you 331 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: some man, you know, d Richard don't have hair like 332 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: it used to have. But Richard have had some bad 333 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: haircuts in his lifetime. Okay, when you gotten and you 334 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: paid to do the money, Okay, I paid to do 335 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: the money, walked up mad Okay. And this is basically 336 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: what this show is about. All those times you've gotten 337 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: up out of that beauticians, the beauty chair, beautician walked away, 338 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you gave the money, walked out there, mad. This show 339 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: allows you to come back and this this person who 340 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: took your money happily took your money. No, they didn't 341 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: deliver the goods. This show allows them to fix the 342 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: problem and both both parties walk away happy. That's what 343 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: I liked about the show, John, I really did. I 344 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. Man. You need a little sting, you need 345 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: all that. That's that's entertainment. But the fact that this 346 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: show allows for both parties now to be satisfied. Like like, 347 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: for instance, this episode was to do with the cowboyd 348 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: had right, you know, he walked in because it hide 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: how they set up the show is these people are 350 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: coming to meet Johnny right, you know, big time Johnny, Right, 351 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: they said, right, okay, And and and Johnny interviews him 352 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and he starts showing them a little different photos about 353 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: different things they've done. This guy in particular, he had 354 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: messed up this girl's hair, but on a model, on 355 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: a model casting call. And so even during his interview Johnny, 356 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: he admitted he didn't do a good job. Remember he 357 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: admitted he did do a good job because you asked him. 358 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: But you think he said, well, we didn't really do 359 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: a good job on our hair. He said that, So, 360 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: but did he fix it. No, he kind of messed 361 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: it up. And then then that's when the sting part 362 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: he talks about. Then Tamar come running out of back 363 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: with the camera true camera crew with the Discrotto persons 364 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: who had the bad hair do, and that sets the 365 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: temple for the show. That to me, man, is just 366 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: they are little stunned, you still a little caught off guard, 367 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: but you're not blasting them and go get your butt 368 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: out of here. You're a horrible brutician. That's what the 369 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: That's what I love about that, I'm telling Johnny. I 370 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: love that, man, I really do. But to continue to 371 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: tell everybody about the show, Johnny, you know, and as 372 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: you thinking about it, I would have to say kudos 373 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: to v h one because I think this show is 374 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: a show that they wanted to pioneer the shifting of 375 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: the narrative of the network, you know what I mean. 376 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: They didn't want it to be another show of people 377 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: fighting and screaming at each other. But there is drama, 378 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: but there is always happy and you know, I like 379 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: to describe the show as a cross between Botched and 380 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: to Catch a Predator. And the reason why I used 381 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: those two because of course you have that's pretty sure predator. 382 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: Now you might want to drop that, you must, I 383 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: got your box. You might want to drop that catch 384 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: your predator side. Okay, what the thing is that the 385 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: way that I explained it is, you know that that 386 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: when the person comes in, they didn't have no idea 387 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: that the style of is there. So that's what to 388 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: catch the predator apart. But the box part, of course 389 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: is the fact that they did mess up. Somebody are 390 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: and they're gonna go through and get it done and 391 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: and fix it and get it right, you know. And 392 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: that's why I really enjoyed it by the show because 393 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: I did not want to be on a regular docuseries 394 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: where producers are egging you on to kind of like 395 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: pin you against your friend and things like that. You know, 396 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a partners I don't think 397 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: they're good for your brand, and I just don't think 398 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: they're great television me personally. I understand that they raped 399 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: well and all that kind of stuff, but it's just 400 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: not the type of TV that I want to do. 401 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: This right here was right on brand. It was right 402 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: on target with what I wanted to do and how 403 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: I wanted my career to continues to flow. And that's 404 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: why I love this show so much. You know, it's 405 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: it's fun. I'm really interested in it, you know, in 406 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: how season two would turn out and the twist and 407 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: turns that we will make it that looks like. But 408 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this season is really good. 409 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: We did twenty episodes, which is a lot. We shot 410 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: it in two months, which is you know, crazy schedule 411 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: we did. We did two episode with twenty episodes, and 412 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: each one is totally different. They have a different energy 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: to them, and anybody, you know, hopefully at the end 414 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: it comes out with a happy ending. It really was, 415 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, I'm just letting everybody. I'm 416 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: talking to Johnny, right, he just take twenty on twenty 417 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: episode series that's not airing on VICH one Top Tamar 418 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Braxton and right come to the rescue of clients whose 419 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: hair has been botched by beautician from their past, and 420 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: the strategic steam occupation. Because Tamar's in the back, she 421 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: has a little, she has little she's communicating with Johnny, 422 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: talking back and forth, listening to everything, and you hear, 423 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: you hear. You can just see the reaction to the 424 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: client with the batch had to do response. Oh he's lying, 425 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: he didn't do that, or she didn't do that. Oh 426 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe that. So you could have 427 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: that little fun stuff that's going on the back there. 428 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: But Braxton's right, will help dis grown up customers confront 429 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: the stylist who damaged their hair. Right, we then put 430 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: the petition through a rigorous and he really does not 431 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: because now that's what that's what it seems to me. 432 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: That's when it gets fun to me, because that's what 433 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: I think that the ratings really hold in because you 434 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: get to see actual having transformations and then you get 435 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: to see the engagement of the beautician and decline because 436 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: that's a relationship there and I know that because people 437 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: are putting there there for confidence. Sometimes in strangers. Something 438 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: In one situation where the sister came in said her 439 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: sister messed up. Perhaps I wouldn't. And so many people 440 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: need to stop asking for hair, dude that they can't 441 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: get Like the home girl who wanted to like she 442 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: really needed to stop it. She was never gonna get 443 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: in here like Beyonce, but her sister says she could 444 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: pull it off. You know, sister messed up her hair 445 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: and then you guys have to bring that together. That's 446 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Buying George the show because of 447 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: the fact that it becomes a like you said, it's 448 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: a botched it's a The Predator, the Predator scene where 449 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: you people are unsuspectfully bursting through doors and say ah ha. 450 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: But it becomes a feel good show, Johnny, it's a 451 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: field good show. That's I commend you on holding holding 452 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: your ground on that because it is your face. Man, 453 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: it is your brand, and you don't want that negative 454 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: to dude. You're the first lady. You're the first lady. Yes, yes, 455 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: that was important for me. I did not want to 456 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: leave the you know, the leader while out of my 457 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: first big gig was me cutting and screaming. And first 458 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: of all, I always tell people they can't d it 459 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: was you don't give them. I would have never given 460 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: them that anyway. But at the same time, you know, 461 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: just to be in a situation they wanted and people 462 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: trying to cohert you to do stuff like that. I 463 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: just did not want to do anything like that. So 464 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: I was very happy that the universe took this in 465 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: my lap and I was able to do this show 466 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: very happy. So far. The worst, the worst one I've 467 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: seen so far was the what the what? The girl 468 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: who had to burn on her head looked like a 469 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: giant bubble or hump. Yeah what? She got stuck by 470 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: the needle? Right? That one? Well, you know what, Remember 471 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: she got burned. Remember she put there? Put they put there. 472 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: I believe that they died on their hair. I remember 473 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: they started tingling. You said it was it Tingland? Was 474 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: it Tingland? And they showed yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 475 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: That one that looked pretty bad. Dude, that little at 476 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: say tuned. There's so many more that's gonna really you're 477 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: not going to which one is the worst one, because 478 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I just started watching. I would 479 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: just let you know I'm a favoy. Come on now, 480 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: let me be a favor brother. FA I appreciate it. Now. 481 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: How how has the response has been so far with 482 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: the with the fans, with the television ratings, with social 483 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: media been about the show. And we're talking to Johnny 484 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: right he just started the new one of the Stars, 485 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: the co stars with Tamar Braxton v H one to 486 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Catch a Beautician. What's been the reaction, So it's been 487 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: really positive. You know, we had a conversation, we had 488 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: a zoom called me and Tamar and the other exact 489 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: v H one. We had a room called last week 490 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: and they said they're extremely happy with the show. It's 491 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: trending upwards every week. Um, they said, with the number 492 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: with the number one trending show of v H one 493 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: right now. Um, so it's doing really, really well. You know, 494 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: we haven't got the announcement if it's gonna be a 495 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: second season yet or not, but I'm pretty sure will be. 496 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: I think it should be. Um, and it's just it's 497 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: a fun show. So yeah, it's doing very well all 498 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: of the you know, I know people do feel a 499 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: little chesty sometimes and they feel like they can come 500 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: to your page and say something negative because that's how 501 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: they feel. But I have not had one negative comment 502 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: on it show. In fact, I had people who when 503 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: we were promoting this show, They're saying, like, I don't 504 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: want to watch this show. They literally came back and said, sorry, 505 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: I thought I didn't want to watch the show, but 506 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: I cannot stop watching and I'm addicted to it. So 507 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: people are really really enjoying it show. But that's what 508 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about me. That's what I'm saying 509 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: about me. I just wanted telling anybody who's listening, don't 510 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: get caught up in the stereotype of you think what 511 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: the show is. If you just watch the promo, the 512 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: opening promo the show, it explains in great detail about 513 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: how this show plays out and how both parties you 514 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: get to be, you know, satisfied. That's what I like 515 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: about the show. You know, the person that's in on 516 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the stand of the victim, they get to meet, they 517 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: get to confront each other in a positive manner because hey, 518 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: this person is not happy. They gave you money but 519 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: they weren't happy. Are you willing to fix the problem. 520 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: And then they go through the boot camp and you 521 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: get the big walla even even some of the stylet's 522 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: go wow wow. If I'm always talking like that, I'm like, wow, 523 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: they did a great job. And I's like, and then 524 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you know this edited where it looks like I'm just 525 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: with them for a minute. I'm actually looking for a 526 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: very long time before they actually styled and finished the hair. 527 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: But it still stocked me when I see it that 528 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: there looks amazing. Well, John, that wouldn't thank you for 529 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Great talking to you again, man. 530 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed being on Money Making Conversations Man 531 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: and static, and note that anytime you're promoting anything about 532 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: your brand, please come back. But again. Watch v H 533 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: one's new to Catch a beautition starring tame Up Braxton 534 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: and my man Johnny Right, be strong, my brother, and 535 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: be safe. 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