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Speaker 1: Wowow Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, March first, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're making

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Speaker 1: our own shrunk cocktails. It's being your Man, NAMG Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grant joined by Michael F. Floyo, and we're back in

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Speaker 1: studio today. I have specialists over on the other side.

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Speaker 1: You guys say like, clap, Yeah, we got Ryan, we

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Speaker 1: got Cynthia hanging out with us like it's it's like

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Speaker 1: old times again. I know they've been trying to keep

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Speaker 1: us out of our lounge, right, we would not be denied.

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Speaker 1: You know, we had a nice little lounge set up here.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure for those of you who watched the streaming

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Speaker 1: show you see in our little setup. And then the

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Speaker 1: folks at l Huddle who look all all respect mj Acosta,

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Speaker 1: Ruiz will Selva, we love them, but they sort of

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Speaker 1: they were homesteading in our spot. They were squatting in

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Speaker 1: our spot for a few weeks. So we have kindly

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Speaker 1: asked to get it back. So we're back here, back

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Speaker 1: in our own spot. So I feel like the energy

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Speaker 1: is different. I'm glad to be back in one spot again. Um,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot happening. M The combine is happening in Indianapolis. We

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Speaker 1: are not there. That's fine. We'll probably talk more about

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Speaker 1: the combine next week after it's done. I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot to preview. Yeah, I've seen people

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Speaker 1: like trying to preview it, and it's like, Okay, people

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Speaker 1: are gonna go out there in shorts and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do these exercises. That's your preview. It is, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's the preview is how tall is this guy, how

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Speaker 1: fast does he run. It's all useful, very useful information.

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Speaker 1: But until we have it exactly really do anything that's

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Speaker 1: exactly right. So I figure once we get to next

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Speaker 1: week we have this information, then we can sort of

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Speaker 1: talk about what this means in the big picture. But

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Speaker 1: we will talk some running backs. We'll talk some free

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Speaker 1: agent running backs because we are officially two weeks away

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Speaker 1: from the start of free agency, so we'll talk running

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Speaker 1: backs today. We'll talk pass catchers, wide receivers, tight ends

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Speaker 1: next week to get us ready for free agency, and

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Speaker 1: So we'll dive into that at the end of the show,

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the running backs here, because this

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Speaker 1: is a really deep group. I feel like it's sort

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Speaker 1: of top heavy, but there's a lot of names that

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Speaker 1: very well could change places and really sort of change

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Speaker 1: the way we kind of come at the running back

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Speaker 1: position in fantasy. So I broke it down in the

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Speaker 1: kind of three groups. You got Tier one, Tier two,

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Speaker 1: and then just kind of everybody else. Tier one. I

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Speaker 1: put three guys there, put Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, and

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Speaker 1: I put Tony Pollard in the list because I feel

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Speaker 1: like these are the three guys that are probably going

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Speaker 1: So when you look at them, Barkley, Jacob's Pollard, what

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Speaker 1: order do you put them in? Like, like just for

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Speaker 1: next season, I put it as in that order that

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Speaker 1: you said, Saquan, Josh Jacob's, Tony Pollard. But if you're

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Speaker 1: thinking long term, I have the most concerned about Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: He's obviously dealt with the most injuries, He's got the

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Speaker 1: most wear and tear on his tires there, But that's why.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a prime franchise tag candidate. And I

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Speaker 1: know Dennis just said what we could get Joe Mixon,

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Speaker 1: and I still think we could even get Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 1: potentially as cap casualties. So this already very deep running

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Speaker 1: back class could just get even more. It's going to

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Speaker 1: But we'll see what happened when everybody sits down to

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Speaker 1: actually talk numbers. I would say in the long term,

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Speaker 1: I love Tony Pollard, I think the most because he

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Speaker 1: I think in the short term I might put Jacobs

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Speaker 1: Everybody loved him. Everybody was ready to, you know, put

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Speaker 1: to like seventy, Like push that number. I want Tony

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Speaker 1: Like Zeke did help Pollard in that regard. Where he

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Speaker 1: whereas that's a thing that we've seen from Eckler, We've

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what gives him the leg up.

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Speaker 1: of all three of these to bring back Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: I do think I do think say Quan's gonna end

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Speaker 1: because that's not what it sounded like after we what

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Speaker 1: I do think Pollard probably needs to move on, just because,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it seems like the Cowboys still don't

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Speaker 1: want to completely cut ties to Zeke. There's still the

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Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson rumors that are floating around right there, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if anything, Dallas might be hesitant

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Speaker 1: to sign another running back to a long term contract

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Speaker 1: based on kind of what's happened with Ezekiel Elliott the

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Speaker 1: last few years. He was a very good player when

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Speaker 1: they signed him to the extension. He has declined significantly

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Speaker 1: a new home at this point. The Tier two guys,

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Speaker 1: be filled with rocketship emojis just nothing of a rocketship

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Speaker 1: emoji for random players in a random places. But by

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Speaker 1: the way, I didn't mention this. We talked about Devin Singletary.

431
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Speaker 1: The Bills have said they want to expand James Cook's

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Speaker 1: role this this upcoming year. You are, you're you're a

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Speaker 1: resident Bills fan here. I just can you get a

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Speaker 1: word to them. I just want a clear delineation of

435
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Speaker 1: roles in that offense, right, James Cook, we don't even

436
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Speaker 1: catch the football, but they didn't use him for that.

437
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Speaker 1: Niheim Hines they brought him in. He can catch the football,

438
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Speaker 1: they didn't use him for that. I just want some clarity.

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Speaker 1: Can you get word to Sean McDermott, just be like, hey, man,

440
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Speaker 1: let us know what you're doing back here. I mean

441
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Speaker 1: yesterday Brennan Bean was like, yeah, we're very confident in

442
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Speaker 1: Gabe Davis is our number two wide receiver. I'm like,

443
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Speaker 1: I don't believe a word you guys are saying right now.

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Speaker 1: I do think, though, we will get more James Cook,

445
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Speaker 1: because the one thing, as maddening as it could be

446
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Speaker 1: at times, is like Sean McDermott, I think, more than

447
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Speaker 1: any coach maybe besides, like Andy Reid with how he

448
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Speaker 1: uses some of his players, is like petrified of a

449
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Speaker 1: rookie wall So it really seemed to me like early

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Speaker 1: in the year they did not want to use James

451
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Speaker 1: Cook at all. I can't tell you why they didn't

452
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Speaker 1: use in the Heeam Haines, although probably worth the trade

453
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Speaker 1: just on the punt return Week eighteen alone, but besides that,

454
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Speaker 1: he could have used the guy. I mean, he's a

455
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Speaker 1: really useful running back. I am up to thinking that

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Speaker 1: the Bills might actually invest in a running back for

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Speaker 1: the first time in a while, like outside of like

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Speaker 1: a third or fourth round draft pick. H Now, that

459
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Speaker 1: would be interesting. I don't know that I like it,

460
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Speaker 1: but it would be interesting if we're bringing somebody else in,

461
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just my immediate thought is it puts

462
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Speaker 1: us back in the situation where we had Devin Singletary

463
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Speaker 1: and Zach Moss then Moss moves on. It's James Cook,

464
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Speaker 1: It's Nahiem Hines. Great for the Bills, bad for us.

465
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Speaker 1: There hasn't been an explosive running back since they've drafted

466
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. So like James Cook is probably the most

467
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Speaker 1: explosive running back they've had, Josh Allen's like the most

468
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Speaker 1: explosive running back they have, really is right now, really

469
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Speaker 1: really is. There are plenty more running backs to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We won't dive into them individually because there's just two

471
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Speaker 1: dang many of them, but wanted to kind of take

472
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Speaker 1: a big picture look at what this means for us

473
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Speaker 1: fantasy wise going forward. Take a quick break, we'll come back.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and Florio's film festival. That's after

475
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Speaker 1: the break here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, talking

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Speaker 1: running backs here, and I've got through the first couple

477
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Speaker 1: of years I put this category. I just called them

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Speaker 1: the rest. And it's not even the rest. It's the

479
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Speaker 1: rest of the guys that I think could actually move

480
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Speaker 1: the needle a little bit in fantasy. So that list

481
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Speaker 1: includes Jamal Williams, Deontay Foreman, Jeff Wilson, right, he most

482
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Speaker 1: did Kenyan Drake Rashad Penny, who, by the way, I

483
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Speaker 1: debated whether I have to put Rashad Penny in sort

484
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Speaker 1: of Tier two as well, but injuries sort of made

485
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Speaker 1: me knock him down to this group. Samaj p Ryan,

486
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Speaker 1: who definitely was making an impact for the Bengals near

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. This is just a handful,

488
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Speaker 1: and they're probably other guys that if I really combed

489
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Speaker 1: the list, could probably make it into this group. Heeries, well,

490
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Speaker 1: but that's just an idea of of sort of what

491
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Speaker 1: we're working with here. Obviously, the idea of a true

492
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Speaker 1: workhorse running back is sort of dead, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you got sure s Quan fills that, Bill Derrick Henry.

494
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if Christian McCaffrey does. Because the

495
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Speaker 1: Niners like using multiple guys. When you look at fantasy

496
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Speaker 1: running backs and you're evaluating them, now, you can't just say, hey,

497
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Speaker 1: I want a guy who's gonna touch the ball three

498
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: hundred times, because that doesn't happen. How do you evaluate

499
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Speaker 1: fantasy running backs at this point? I think this upcoming season,

500
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Speaker 1: obviously we sell the free we have free agency in

501
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Speaker 1: the draft, but I think it's going to be harder

502
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: to evaluate backfields than ever before. Like remember last season

503
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Speaker 1: when quarterbacks and receivers were like completely flipped on its

504
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: head and it was a guessing game with a lot

505
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Speaker 1: of teams. I think that's gonna be running backs in

506
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three drafts because all of these names that

507
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Speaker 1: like you just mentioned Alexander Madison, Kareem Hunt, like there's

508
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: other good players that were Like if these guys ever,

509
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Speaker 1: you know, went to the right spot, we could see

510
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: them being useful. I think a lot of teams instead

511
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Speaker 1: of paying up for those the high end running backs,

512
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Speaker 1: are gonna sign two of these guys or sign one

513
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Speaker 1: of them. Because it's a very deep draft class as well.

514
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Speaker 1: So we could see teams sign one of these and

515
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Speaker 1: pair with a running back that they already have, or

516
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: pair with their running back in the draft. I think

517
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Speaker 1: pretty much there's gonna be a handful of running backs

518
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Speaker 1: that we feel confident, Like if John Shacob supposed to

519
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Speaker 1: return to the Raiders or Sequon or CMC like you said,

520
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Speaker 1: al Sin Eckler, like, we know that those guys are

521
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: gonna get all the work in their backfield. Derrick Henry,

522
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Speaker 1: so you could take those guys early. But for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like next year is going to be the

524
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Speaker 1: ultimate year from mid round value and finding value off

525
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Speaker 1: of the waiver wire. I went and looked. I'm just

526
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out if there's a threshold for like

527
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Speaker 1: number of touches in a season that sort of, you know,

528
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Speaker 1: makes us feel comfortable. I said, the number two hundred

529
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Speaker 1: sort of arbitrary, but not really. Thirty guys, thirty running

530
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Speaker 1: backs had at least two hundred touches. Of those thirty guys,

531
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Speaker 1: pretty much all of them were top twenty five no surprise.

532
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Speaker 1: The two guys that had less than two hundred touches

533
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Speaker 1: that finished top twenty five running backs Jerick McKinnon who

534
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: had that incredible touchdown streak down the stretch which helped

535
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Speaker 1: a whole lot, and DeAndre Swift, which I'm surprised if

536
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: he was a top twenty five back one hundred and

537
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: forty seven total touches, didn't miss a couple of games

538
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Speaker 1: with injury. But do we have to lower that number now?

539
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Speaker 1: Are we talking about are we looking at guys you know,

540
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Speaker 1: is it one hundred and fifty, is it one hundred

541
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Speaker 1: and twenty five touches? Is there is there a new

542
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Speaker 1: threshold for what we want out of a running back

543
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Speaker 1: in terms of how they're used, or is it just,

544
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Speaker 1: you know, are we just going to be doomed to

545
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Speaker 1: sort of pick and choose and sort of shuffle through

546
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Speaker 1: on a week to week basis. I think the ladder.

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Speaker 1: I think two hundred is a good number. Whereas five

548
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: years ago, if you told me like two hundred touches,

549
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: people would be like, no, like that's two fifty. And

550
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: in five years before that it was three hundred touches,

551
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Speaker 1: you know, So it just shows us how much the

552
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: position has changed. But the two outliers McKinnon and Swift,

553
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Speaker 1: they both have in common that they scored a bunch

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns and they had a lot of catches. Like,

555
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Speaker 1: I think that is the only margin for error that

556
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Speaker 1: you have. If you're not going to get at least

557
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Speaker 1: two hundred touches, you need to be highly efficient with touchdowns,

558
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: which are very unpredictable, not only over the course of

559
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: a full season, but just week to week. And then

560
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: you need to be involved in the passing name because

561
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: if you don't do that, you're you're basically useless for fantasy.

562
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: If you're just gonna get under two hundred carries um.

563
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's gonna be confusing week to

564
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: week because even like remember the last season with Swift

565
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: and Jamal Williams there it was frustrating. Like there were

566
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Speaker 1: weeks where we were saying, all right, you can't use

567
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: Swift anymore, they're giving him six touches and then he

568
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: came out and got eighteen and he got the goal

569
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: on work, and then Jamal Williams would give you like

570
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: six points. Like backfields like that are going. You're gonna

571
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: have running backs that you can use, but they're just

572
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna be very frustrating week to week. So that's why

573
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: again I think the early rounds next season, you should

574
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: be planning to take receivers. Whether you want to take

575
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: an early round tight end, that's up to you and

576
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: all of your decision making. But I also think quarterbacks

577
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: next season, Like I'm already planning on thinking I need

578
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Speaker 1: one of the top eight quarterbacks, which means I'm probably

579
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Speaker 1: gonna have to take them in the first six rounds.

580
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Speaker 1: So what position am I going to push down the

581
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: draft board a little bit? For me, It's likely going

582
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Speaker 1: to be running backs. So that begs the next question

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Speaker 1: in honor of the Mandalorian Season three premiering. Today's Today Today,

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Speaker 1: It's today zero RB. This is the way? Is this

585
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: our new way of life now? I think so. I

586
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Speaker 1: think the most I would go is modified zero or

587
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: like hero RB, which is like you take one running

588
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: back early on. Like if say I'm sitting there in

589
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: like the fourth or fifth pick and I could get

590
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: like an Austin Eckler or at CMC, I will strongly

591
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Speaker 1: consider that because then I only need to find one

592
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: running back the rest of the way. But I'm fine

593
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: loading up on receivers early and just saying there's gonna

594
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Speaker 1: be guys who hit in the middle to late rounds,

595
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Speaker 1: and then even more so off waivers. I think, I mean,

596
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Speaker 1: I just think it's not gonna be I don't think

597
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a hey, this is like an

598
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: outside the box strategy or I'm trying to zig where

599
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: everybody's zagg. I think that's just going to be the

600
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Speaker 1: way we start drafting, at least for the foreseeable future,

601
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: with so many teams using multiple running backs. I mean,

602
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Speaker 1: I honestly think the fact that the forty nine Ers

603
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: brought in Christian McCaffrey and didn't just suddenly give him

604
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the snaps that you saw other

605
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: guys still working in still getting touches. If Christian McCaffrey

606
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: is no longer just a true dominating the backfield workhorse,

607
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Speaker 1: that means we don't have many left. I mean, we

608
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Speaker 1: really are looking at you know, the Derreck Henry's, maybe

609
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: the Sequans, maybe the Austin Ekelers, depending on what the

610
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Speaker 1: Chargers want to do. They're just aren't many of those

611
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: guys left, and so it's going to be harder to

612
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Speaker 1: justify spending a top three to five pick on one

613
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Speaker 1: of those running backs when you've got Justin Jefferson or

614
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup or you know, even Advante Adams or you know,

615
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs sitting up in one of those top spots there.

616
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Speaker 1: Zero RB or modified zero RB might just become the

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00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: way of things now, Like like looking at the running

618
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: top running backs from last season, Eckler and CMC there there.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs could be on a new team. Yeah, Derrick

620
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: Henry is Derrick Henry, but he even getting up there

621
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Speaker 1: in age where I think there's some concern sae Quon

622
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Barkley could be on a new team. Nick Chubb is

623
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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Rumandre Stevenson, Tony Pollard could be on a

624
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: new team. Aaron Jones could have a completely different team

625
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: around him. Mixon and Dalvin Cook were two running backs

626
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: were still saying maybe could get moved. Leonard for Nette's

627
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna be on a new team. Jamal Williams could be

628
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: on a new team. Naji's Naji. And then you have

629
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Speaker 1: Miles Sanders who could be on a new team. And

630
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Speaker 1: then there's Alvin Kamaro who's dealing with off the field stuff.

631
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Speaker 1: Like all of the top running backs are, they bring

632
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: some level of concern unless you want to put like

633
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker up in towards the top like that I'm

634
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: okay with. But am I gonna take him over one

635
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: of the top receivers. Probably not. No, you're not taking

636
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Speaker 1: him over. You're not taking him in the first round.

637
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: You're taking him probably second or third round. Um. Yeah,

638
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: it's just it is a It is a murky time

639
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Speaker 1: for fantasy running backs right now. And we'll get maybe

640
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Speaker 1: a little bit of clarity in a couple of weeks

641
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: when guys start moving, start changing teams, and we kind

642
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: of get a better idea of that. We'll get more

643
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: ideal obviously after the draft once teams drafted and signed

644
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: running backs and we kind of get a better picture

645
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: of backfields. But I dare say that the way we

646
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: drafted running backs the last few years is going to

647
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: be very different than the way we're drafting running backs

648
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: in the next few years to come. Time for another

649
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: edition of Florio's film Festival. Last week we started it

650
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: off with Terminator two. This week we stay with another

651
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: LA based action movie, Speed release June tenth, nineteen ninety four,

652
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: on a budget of thirty million dollars, which seems poultry

653
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: compared to T two's one hundred and five million or

654
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: whatever it was, grows three hundred and fifty million dollars worldwide.

655
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the movie, it's simple. There's a

656
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: bomb on a bus. If the bus goes below fifty

657
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: miles an hour, the bus explodes. So it's up to

658
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Kiano Reeves to keep the bus from blowing up. He

659
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: with the help of Sandra Bullock and a whole bunch

660
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: of other quick thinking passengers on this LA bus. Some

661
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: fun facts about it. Sandra Bullock learned to drive a

662
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: US for the movie. To make it look realistic. I

663
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: felt why she did a great job. Yeah. It came

664
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: out one week before O. J. Simpson's Low Speed Freeway Chase,

665
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: which is maybe the most amazing piece of trivia ever

666
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: because you have a you know, a movie where a

667
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: bus is sort of being chased through the LA freeways

668
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: and then OJ, who I think was going significantly less

669
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: than fifty miles an hour, gets chased by cops on

670
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: the freeway a week later. And in the original script,

671
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: the bus was supposed to circle Dodger Stadium, but the

672
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: studio couldn't get rights to film there, which having seen

673
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: it now, I feel like it would be a much

674
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: more boring movie if they're just driving in circles at

675
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium. Yeah, I was gonna I don't think that

676
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: would have worked as well as going to Lax. No. Um,

677
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: so your your first, your thoughts, your takeaways. Having been

678
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: introduced now to speed Speed was awesome, Like I really

679
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, Like I would easily watch it again. And

680
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: I love the that I didn't know really anything about out.

681
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: I knew there was a bomb on the bus and

682
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Keanu Reeves was in it, and that was it. Then

683
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I saw. I was like, wait, that's Sandra Bullock and

684
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: there's a young Jeff Daniels, and like, I really liked

685
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: the cast. It was. It was really entertaining. And what

686
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I like is that like there's multiple times where you

687
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: think they won and they beat the bombers and then nope,

688
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: he just like he's relentless. He keeps coming back until

689
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: you know for sure that he can't come back anymore,

690
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: which was also awesome. Like I just I really enjoyed

691
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: this movie. Speed was I don't know if I've said

692
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: this on the podcast. I know I've said this before.

693
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Speed is the movie When they asked what's the movie

694
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: you've seen the most times in theaters? It's Speed. For me,

695
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: I saw it seven times in the theater. Let me clarify,

696
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: it's not because I think it's some it's it's a

697
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: great movie. I enjoy it. I don't think it's some

698
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: sort of classic cinema. I'm not putting it up there

699
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: with like The Godfather. It was just it came out

700
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: the year I graduated from high school, and I had

701
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: a lot of free time during the summer, and inevitably

702
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: a friend would say, Hey, I want to go see Speed.

703
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: You want to come with me, and I'd be like, okay.

704
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: So that's how I ended up seeing at seven seven

705
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: times in theaters. Um any any unanswered questions, anything about

706
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: it that you're like, wait a minute, that didn't make sense? No, Um.

707
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: The only thing I was wondering, and I don't think

708
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,959
Speaker 1: they addressed in the movie. So when when the bus

709
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: goes into the plane, okay, is the plane full of people?

710
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: That's what I wondered too watching it that. You know,

711
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: the guy towing the plane jumps out and runs away later,

712
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: But my thought was, did they just kill a whole

713
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: lot of people on this plane? Because I well, obviously

714
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: you're rooting for them to get off the bus and

715
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: to get saved. But I was like, I don't know

716
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: if a two for you know, like one hundred people

717
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: is a fair trade. So that that was a little concerning. Um.

718
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Keanu reeves, as awesome as his character is, I was like, dude,

719
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: take a second to think about what you're doing sometimes,

720
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: because like he had, he was just reckless. I felt

721
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: like his whole his whole mode of operations was you

722
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna go more extreme things, right. I mean,

723
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: obviously the as part with him jumping over the you know,

724
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: the gap in the freeway. His whole thing was, let's

725
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: just speed up the bus and we can make the jump.

726
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Then at the end, when they're trapped on a subway

727
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: train and they can't get out, his responses, let's speed

728
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: it up. I'm like, you can't just do this for everything.

729
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Just can't be your answer for everything. Just speed it up.

730
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: When when he goes on that I don't even know

731
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: what to call it, that like thing that goes under

732
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: the bus, everyone on the bus is like, this is

733
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: a this is a dumb idea. He's just like I

734
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: got it, and like they saved him, which is awesome,

735
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: But I was like, he was really trying not to

736
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: get saved that day. My only other big question with

737
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: this movie, um, and I rewatched it. I hadn't watched

738
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: it in years, so I watched it again from start

739
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: to finish. At the end, after they get off the

740
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: bus and they're going to catch Dennis Hopper's character the bomber,

741
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: why did they just leave Sandra Bullocks standing on the

742
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: street by herself to get kidnapped. I was wondering that

743
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: as well. I was like, and why did she willingly

744
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I get it. He was dressed as a cop and

745
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: he was like previously, so I'm sure he sounds like one,

746
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: but I was like, after everything I've been through, I'd

747
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: be like, I'm not leaving this spot, or I want

748
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: to go home? Yeah, can I go home now? I

749
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: don't really need to be a part of your sting

750
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: operation to catch the bomber guy. I'm going home. If

751
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: you have any questions for me, here's my phone number.

752
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Give me a call. By the way, there was actual

753
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: phone booths in that movie. Oh yeah. At the very

754
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, they blow up. They blow up

755
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: a different bus and Dennis Hopper calls Keanu Reeves on

756
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: a pay phone and as somebody who lived through the

757
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: pay phone error, that's still that still kind of caught

758
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: me off guard that he actually went to a pay phone.

759
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: The one thing I did not see coming at all

760
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: was his house blowing up. Blowing up. Yeah, poor Jeff Daniels. Again,

761
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: this movie is thirty years old, so I'm not gonna

762
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: say spoiler alert here. Poor Jeff Daniels catches it in

763
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: the worst way by going to someone's house and have

764
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: me a blow up while he was inside. Uh, you know,

765
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: they made a Speed too, right, you're aware of the

766
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it is Sandra Bullock and Jason Patrick. They couldn't

767
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: get Keanu Reeves for Speed two because like the matrix

768
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: sort of. So in Speed two they're on a cruise ship.

769
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: It's on a giant boat. I feel like that doesn't

770
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: hold up. I will tell you that I've never seen

771
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: it because it looked awful. Um it got a four

772
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: percent on Rotten Tomatoes, so that tells you pretty much everything.

773
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Speed one got like a like eighty six percent or somewhere. Yeah,

774
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: Like I saw that score and I was like, oh,

775
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: this must be a really good Like even before I

776
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: watched it, I was like, this must be really good.

777
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: But if in the speed world, if I'm Sandra Bullock

778
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: after that cruise ride, I'm never going on another form.

779
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm never going on transportation again ever. You know what,

780
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: maybe I just I just take a bike everywhere or something.

781
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not taking buses, I'm not

782
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: taking boats. Planes are already sort of sort of sketchy

783
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: for that sort of thing anyway. So yeah, all right,

784
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: so your overall verdict thumbs up, I assume, yeah, very much,

785
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: So thumbs up. I would watch it again, and I

786
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: don't want to compare movies, but I actually I thought

787
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: Speed holds up to modern times even better than Terminator

788
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: because Terminator is all about future technology and stuff like this.

789
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I imagine if there was a bomb

790
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: on a bus today, it would it would go very

791
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: similar to how it went in Speed. You know, like

792
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: we it's even though it's been thirty years. I don't

793
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: think our strategy with that or anything would change. The

794
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: difference is people on the bus would be live streaming

795
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: the whole thing. That's very true. The dude wouldn't even

796
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: need all those TVs. He doesn't need a couple of phones.

797
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing, by the way, that sort

798
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: of threw me off. He doesn't know the bus blew up,

799
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: like he's watching a million different TV. Like I know,

800
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: he has the feed inside the bus, but he's also

801
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: watching the news, like I would think there's a giant

802
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: explosion at Lax. Somebody would be kind of on top

803
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: of that. I thought this so like, I understand that

804
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: the cops tell the news like, hey, you need to

805
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: put this on loop like film whatever you want, then

806
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: loop it. But I was like, he wouldn't They had

807
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: one minute of film and they had enough time to

808
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: not only get everyone off, but for to explode and

809
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: then then go drop the money off. I was like,

810
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't realize that no one on that bus has

811
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: moved in like like twenty minutes. Yeah, that was That

812
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: was a little bit though. But you know at the end,

813
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: hole in the end, you're so caught up in the

814
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: whole emotion of it you don't even matter, even matter.

815
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: The other thing I thought was instead of going for

816
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: a fight that he would clearly lose, like against Jack

817
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: on top of a subway, why he his whole thing

818
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: was like bombs are built to explode. As much as

819
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I wanted Santral Ballack and Jack who to live, he

820
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: probably would have just blew just been done with it. Yeah,

821
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: I thought that too, Like that was a really poor

822
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: decision by you to climb on top of the train

823
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: and try to fight a man who's like twenty years younger.

824
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, the point is everyone going on top of

825
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: the subway there, and also like he's shooting roles in

826
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: the roof and stuff, and counter Reeves is just run

827
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: and it was like he would have just easily rolled

828
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: off of that train. Absolutely absolutely, But you know what,

829
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Jack Travin is that dude. Uh and he ends up

830
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: saving the day when it's all said and done. So uh,

831
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: there we go. Thumbs up on Speed. It was great

832
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: to watch it again for me, You're having not seen

833
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: it in a while and kind of get caught up

834
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: in the whole like excitement of the movie once again.

835
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: Next week, I've heard, Can I say what next? Yes?

836
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Please do say what next week? Is? It's Face Off

837
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: from from nineteen ninety seven, which stars Nicholas Cage right,

838
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage and John Travolta. Now, I had had Face

839
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Off on the original list, and I was gonna wait

840
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: till later. But Ryan Dennis mentioned that he started on

841
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: our recommendation, started watching it last week and he said

842
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: after fifteen minutes he turned it off because it was

843
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: incredibly ridiculous, to which me and our fellow producer hYP

844
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: Ki said, the ridiculousness is part of the joy of it,

845
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: so you have to kind of get through that. So

846
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: that made me want to move it up the list.

847
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: So we're gonna watch Face Off, which I haven't met.

848
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: For all of these movies to be based in Los Angeles,

849
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: but it just a sort of movie has based in

850
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: la So it's not the plan. It just has sort

851
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: of worked out that way. I love it because I

852
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: was watching last time, I was like, oh, I know

853
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: where this is. But I will say I've heard nothing

854
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: but good things about Terminator two coming into my watching experience.

855
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Same thing with Speed, Like when I tell my friends

856
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I was watching, they were like, oh, man, you're in

857
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: for a treat, like you're going to really enjoy it.

858
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: Face Off is I'm getting the exact opposite reaction from

859
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people. They're like, Oh, that movie's uh,

860
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a little out there and it's like that

861
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: very out there and it is incredibly ridiculous. Um So

862
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad though, but I'm glad you're getting

863
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: that so great reviews because now I want to get

864
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: to something that, like, you know, maybe there's a little

865
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: controversy here about, you know, the goodness of Face Off.

866
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you to buckle up, because it is.

867
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: It is bananas. The only thing I know is that

868
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: they wear each other's faces. I mean, it's the only

869
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: thing I know. I'm just upset. I'm just gonna say

870
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: it right now. I'm upset that Ryan didn't make it

871
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: to the classic line of Nicholas Cage saying I'm going

872
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: to take his face off like that that is worth

873
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: the price of admission on its own. So we are

874
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: going to watch face off next week. We will come back.

875
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it on this show. I am excited

876
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: because I know Nick Cage is like late two thousands

877
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Nick Cage. More than so I want to see his

878
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: real life. Oh yeah, because this is Nick Cage. I

879
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: don't know if this is his like most bonkers peak,

880
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: but it's up there. It is when you talk about

881
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: just over the top Nick Cage performances. Is this the

882
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: movie with the Bees? This is not the Bees. That

883
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: would be The Wickerman, which that's a whole different category.

884
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, The Wickerman is worth watching. I've just seen

885
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: that clips so many. Yeah, we could almost do a

886
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: whole Nick Cage film festival, just all buy himself because

887
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: it is that man is a treasure. He's an American treasure,

888
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: and he needs to be protected at all costs. All right,

889
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: that seems like a good place to kind of put

890
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: this one to rest. We'll be back next week. We'll

891
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: talk some pass catchers when it comes to free agency.

892
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: We'll probably recap the combine a little bit as well,

893
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: and we will be talking face off, so we appreciate

894
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. As always, i'll do it

895
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,

896
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody,

897
00:42:52,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week. I don't go,

898
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't go.