1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am today. I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton, 2 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: John Osier with me as we talk about another Jaguars 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: win while also looking ahead to a challenge this week 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: as they face off against the Jets. Let's give you 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: our big Things for today, brought to you by g 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: EAHA Government Employees Health Association. Big Thing number one is 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: leading the way. We put a lot of pressure on 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: the trenches on this team, and we should give some 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: credit where it's due. The offensive line has looked excellent 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: lately and with some rotating pieces in there, specifically Cold 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Van Lannon. Brian the quarterback didn't get touched in the 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: game against excuse me, the game against the Cults on Sunday, 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of that due to what the offensive 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: line was able to do. 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Without a doubt. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: And listen, leave it alone as long as you don't 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: have other injuries. If you don't, by the way, that's 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: a great sun for this team's prospects into January. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: But leave it alone. 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: Colvan Lannon is playing as well as any of your 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: offensive lineman right now. And forget the fact that he's 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: played at four different positions. He's just playing great football. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: Leave him in place. And by the way, I don't 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: think I need to plead the case. I think the 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: Jaguars brass knows he's one of those guys. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: John. 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 3: You just got to find a way to keep him 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: on the field. No matter what he does for you, 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: he's doing it really well. 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been remarkable. Teams talk these days about having 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 4: eight starting offensive linemen. 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 5: Most teams don't. 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: This team feels like it's got six, seven or eight, 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: and Colvan Land's a big reason for that. He might 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: be two or three of them by himself. Look the 36 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: offensive line this year. No offensive line has perfect seventeen games, 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: but over a thirteen game period, this group has been 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 4: good and really good far more often than not. 39 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: And you know, a great example of this guy, and 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: we saw it. I'm sure a lot of people watch 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: the Texans Chiefs on Sunday night because of the implications 42 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: to the Jaguars, and you saw. I mean the Chiefs 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: were down to backups, had four of five spots and 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: then lost the backup at left tackle right they were 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: on their third left tackle and they couldn't do anything 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: all night long. So the importance of the offensive line 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: is impossible to overstate. 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: Absolutely I think Colvid Landon's earned a spot on the 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: roster wherever that's going to be at this point. He 50 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: was at left tackle last week. So our second big 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: thing is going to be big play day. We talked 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: a ton about getting the deep ball going and what 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: we wanted to see there. Brian Thomas Junior had some 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: big catches in the game and kind of flashing, showing 55 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: what we know he's capable of. Liam Cohan talked a 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: little bit about Btj's confidence. 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 6: I think just getting healthier, right Like as a wide 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 6: out and you got an ankle like, that's just it's hard. 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 6: It's hard to feel confident probably going out and cutting 60 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: and running and stopping and making plays. And I think 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 6: right now he just feels better, he feels healthier. He's 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 6: been practicing hard, he's been practicing full speed. He's him 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 6: in the quarterback and Trevor have worked at it like 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 6: they've worked, They put time into it, and it showed 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 6: up yesterday in a big way for us. That's an 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 6: area of our offense that has been much needed, and 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 6: to have his show up yesterday was such a good 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 6: thing to see. 69 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: John Brian obviously had a great game on the field, 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: we hear he's practicing better. Also that I think the 71 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: influence that we've seen it from Jacoby Meyers, addition to 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room is rubbing off on him a 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: little bit as well. 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really important that he is this factor. I 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: think just as big as BTJ, as the fact that 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: Trevor also worked Tim Patrick in deep He's throwing the 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: deep ball better. I think if BTJ gives them this 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: element and gives them that fear factor I think I 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: talked about earlier this week. Now defenses have to worry 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: about him as well. In the offense, it's going to 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: open up a lot more thing. This element, Brian has 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: been the one element that is lacked in this offense. 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: It's been a really good offense all year. Hasn't been great. 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: This might make it great, And you know it wasn't 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: the only one. 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: The dependable hands of Jacoby Myers was an element that 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: was missing from this offense, and the presence of Brenton 88 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: Strange and everything that he brings was missing. Now you've 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: got those two pieces, two dependable guys that like the 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: middle of the field, which allows Brian Thomas Junior to 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: run the routes that he likes best twenty five or 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: more yards down the field. I'm not saying he won't 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: go over the middle, because he did on his first catch, 94 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: the sixteen yarder to set up traves Etn's first touchdown. 95 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: He will, but he's more comfortable running deep routes and 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: being way down the field and letting his length and 97 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: his speed and his height come into play for Trevor Lawrence. 98 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: If Lawrence is throwing the ball accurately outside the numbers 99 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: in down the field, then BTJ is the guy Whi's 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: really the telling part here is that all the different 101 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: pieces that have their specific roles in this offense are 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: healthy and back on the field together at a critical 103 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: time of the season. 104 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: And kay, I think about what they did the other day. Look, 105 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: they were a very good passing team. I felt like 106 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: they had a lot of options. And Parker Washington, the 107 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: guy who has become sort of the one, didn't even 108 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 4: play and we didn't talk about it. So now you 109 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: go five deep with really reliable pass catchers in this offense. 110 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: It wasn't the case in September. 111 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: And we have to mention the Travis Hunters on injury 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: reserve because we've talked about all these incredible parts that 113 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: are of a sudden there and you're playing without a 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: guy that you thought at one point this year you 115 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: would have playing well at the end of the year. 116 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great to see what he looks like 117 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: when he comes back next season. If they can all 118 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: continue to play this well this year and then build 119 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: on it next year as well. Our final big thing 120 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: today is going to be week by week. This team 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: thrives their best to take everything day by day and 122 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: week by week, and this week it will be a 123 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: challenge they're going to take on the New York Jets. Brian, 124 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: I think when we talk a little bit about what 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: they can find motivation and they talk about the disrespect 126 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: a lot, but they also got to have some internal 127 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: focus this week well. 128 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: And I have complete confidence in Liam Cohen to get 129 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: that done, because if you go back to the Houston loss, 130 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: he had his team focused only on the Chargers. He 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: didn't let them sit back in feel sorry for themselves 132 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: in the Houston game. He moved them through quickly and 133 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: got them ready to go. I expect that he will 134 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: be able to have his team focused and ready to 135 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: go for the Jets. Records need nothing at this point 136 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: of the season. That was his comment on Wednesday of 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: the Chargers week. I'm sorry, not the Chargers week, the 138 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: week against the the Titans, and I expect him to 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: say the exact same thing this week and have his 140 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: team ready to go. 141 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: He's proven he can do it. Yeah. 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: Look, I don't know if the Jaguars will win Sunday. 143 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: You never know in the NFL, but I do believe 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: that they will be ready to play, and I don't 145 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: think there will be any you know, overlooking anything like that. 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: This is still a young team and a team where 147 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: this is new to them, and they still believe, as 148 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: Travis etn that nobody likes them. So I don't I 149 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: would be stunned if you see a drop off that 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: you can attribute to complacency. It just doesn't feel like 151 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: what this team is. 152 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Fields, the hunger is definitely still there. Say with 153 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: us here on jag Zam, we're gonna do a little 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: this or that about the team coming up after the breaks. 155 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Exam brought to you by Field Auto Group, Seafields First 156 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Jackson's premier luxury auto group at Everyfields Auto dot com. 157 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: This cool looking back into jag Zam today as we 158 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: get ready for a matchup against the Jets, we're kind 159 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: of looking at the team so far the season, where 160 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: they're at. I think they're certainly past what we expected, 161 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: maybe in this first year of the new regime. But 162 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little cue from National because I've 163 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: heard a couple of different people talking about this, and 164 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: we talked touched on it yesterday. But Trevor looked as 165 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: good as I've seen him in my three This is 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: my third season, so my three years here. But obviously 167 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: you guys know him a little bit better and you've 168 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: seen more out of him. But do you feel like 169 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: that was the best game that we've seen from Trevor? 170 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: A most complete game we've seen from Trevor. 171 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: To me, if it wasn't the best game, it was 172 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: certainly the second best game. He was protected and he 173 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 3: made all the throws. And I think the most telling 174 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: throw John was that rollout, that naked rollout to the 175 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: left side that he threw to Tim Patrick down the sideline. 176 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: How many times have we seen him come out of 177 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: that naked rollout and stumble and go too deep or 178 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: stay too far from the sideline. I thought it was 179 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: perfectly executed for maybe the first time I've seen him 180 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: do that in his career, and it was right on target. 181 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: Was that third down? It was a big play at 182 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: the time. I just I thought he rose to the 183 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: occasion in every single moment. If it wasn't his best man, 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: make the case for it. 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 186 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: And I don't even know specific plays or stats, but 187 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: you guys watched the game, and you've watched him this 188 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: year and last year things were a mess, and even 189 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: in twenty two. 190 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 5: Take stats out of it, just take the eye test. 191 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: Didn't he just feel in control? I mean, and like 192 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: every play he knew where he was supposed to go 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: with it, confident with it. I never really put the 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 4: ball in danger. That might have been one where I 195 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, and it was fine. 196 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: He looked like a guy. 197 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: I hate the word light comes on because there's gonna 198 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: be games that are up and down. But he looked 199 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: like a guy who belonged where he was and who 200 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: knew that he was the best person to be there 201 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: and that what he did was right. I said a 202 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, I don't know how much he 203 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: listens to the noise, right, but I remember Camra Robinson 204 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: telling me on his own podcast a couple of years back, 205 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: because Cam had been criticized, right, and he said, there's 206 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: a point where you sort of forget about it, and 207 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 4: then there's point here just you truly don't care and 208 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: you just go play. And I kind of wonder if 209 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: Trevor's not at that with a let it rip five 210 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 4: years into it, I kind of wonder if he's not 211 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: at that point, Hey. 212 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 5: You know what, I'm gonna go play. 213 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's worth pointing out. 214 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: You know, we've seen in most games this year a 215 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: moment where, even if it wasn't interceptage, you're like, no, 216 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: you can't throw that one. I mean I did, that's 217 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: too dangerous. The last two weeks, there has not been 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: one of those plays. 219 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: Nope, not at all. 220 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: Even when you were cringing a little when he was 221 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: rolling out, it worked perfectly. 222 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: There's gonna be moments. 223 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna have games, Yeah, they're bad. Jalen 224 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: Hurts this week had an awful game and he's really good. 225 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: So there's gonna be moments like that. But don't you 226 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: feel like in the last three weeks this is the 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: best he's played since twenty three maybe late twenty two, 228 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: and even in those there were picks and he would 229 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: catch fire. These are solid quarterback performances of a guy 230 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: who looks like he really knows what he's doing. 231 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: People are not holding their breath waiting for mistakes anymore. 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: No, it's great to watch, and it's nice to have 233 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: that confidence and trust in your quarterback. I'm looking at 234 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: some of the points in the season. I feel like 235 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: we're pivotal moments. We've talked a ton about it. The 236 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: loss to the Texans, right, the kind of falling apart 237 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, for lack of a better way 238 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: to describe it. And when you're looking at the playoff 239 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: race now with the Texans kind of getting back in reach, 240 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: and you're probably looking and saying, oh, I kind of 241 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: want that one back. But for me, I feel like 242 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the Texans loss really drove them to the team that 243 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: they are, so John, when I'm looking at this a 244 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: little bit, do you feel like the Texans game, the 245 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: loss was almost needed to get them to this point, 246 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Like you kind of use it as a turning point 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: or would you rather have that win on the roster, Yeah, schedule. 248 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: I think if they'd given up a big lead and 249 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: still won. 250 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: They've kindly gotten the same lesson, so but yes, for 251 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: whatever happened, did teach them lesson. I also look at 252 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 4: the Texans game a little differently than people. They got 253 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: that big lead from some turnovers, they had two hundred 254 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: yards offense or two hundred and thirty five. They really 255 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: didn't dominate the Texans. They got themselves in a position 256 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 4: where they should have won the game. Realistically, don't you 257 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 4: feel like those two teams it's sort of right that 258 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: they split, because I mean it, karma whatever. 259 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: They probably both deserve. 260 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: To beat the other one and enter the two best teams. 261 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 4: But I do think the way that game ended, with 262 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 4: the pass rush not being able to get anything done, 263 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: it certainly inspired that much. And a defense that felt 264 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 4: like it was good all season had had sort of 265 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: a mind slip game and they're very, very good now. 266 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll say, Brian, they needed it, though I 267 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: think again, I think if they won with a field 268 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: goal at the ends. 269 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: Well, listen, find me a perfect team, right There hasn't 270 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: been one since nineteen seventy two, and in that case, 271 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: every team since then has a game that you look 272 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: back at and say, if this then that you hope 273 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: that the Texans game, you say, this is the game 274 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: that prompted us to play better football, as posed to 275 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: we would have won the division if we held on 276 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: and won that game, but instead the schedule rolled out 277 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: and the Texans won out and we lost one. You know, 278 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 3: I mean, that's all the scenarios that are in place 279 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: right now you kind of worry about. 280 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm just sure the belief. 281 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: My dad always us to say, Brian, it isn't what 282 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: happens to you, it's what you do about it. And 283 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: so what happened was they didn't make a play on 284 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: offense or on defense, but they came back the next 285 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: week and started a winning streak. Yeah, they did something 286 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: positive with it. So I will say absolutely it turns 287 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: out to be a very positive thing because they did 288 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: something positive with a negative outcome. 289 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: And I keep harping on this because we sort of 290 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: look for moments like this, and this is a good segment. 291 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 4: But it's not like twenty twenty two where they struggled, struggled, 292 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: struggle and then sort of caught fire on this late run. 293 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: It seems been good all year, right. They started one 294 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: to oh, they were four and one. They played two 295 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: really good teams and the Rams and the Seaos to 296 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: get to four and three. Guess what, the Texans are 297 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: really good. It means their only flub up loss was 298 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Week two. Other than that, I'd make the 299 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: argument that the Texans, Rams, and the Seahawks right now 300 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: might be among the top five or six teams. 301 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: In the league. 302 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 4: Sure, it takes a really good team right now to 303 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: beat the Jaguars. 304 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Well, and listen, I mean, you look at the Eagles. 305 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: They're struggling right now, But if they get hot late 306 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: in the year, is anybody going to be surprised? Because 307 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: they're a talented football team and they have the opportunity 308 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: in front of them to make a run. So you 309 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: have to look at your team from a whole perspective. 310 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that was a good opportunity to 311 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: use as motivation, and they clearly have for the past 312 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Say let's here, we're going to talk 313 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: a little bit about what's going on around the NFL. 314 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: For twelve years, dream Finders Holmes have been proud to 315 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: call themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars 316 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: as a dreamfindersomes dot Com for all of the available 317 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: inventory and go Jags. Welcome back into jag Zam. We're 318 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about what's going on around 319 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're expanding past the ANFC South because there's 320 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on different places. But let's 321 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: talk about the Colts. Obviously, the team we just played, 322 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: just got to win over Daniel Jones. Of course confirmed 323 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: guy has that achilles injury. He'll be out for TBD 324 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: a long amount of time, certainly not this season. And 325 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: the Colts now bringing in Philip Rivers, retired quarterback hasn't 326 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: played since twenty twenty and he's on the practice squad 327 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: now in Indianapolis. 328 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: Listen, Philip Rivers is one of my favorite quarterbacks that 329 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: I have ever watched. 330 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I think he's like the proto type of a quarterback, 331 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: like I feel like, just tough. 332 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: And just the kind of person that he is. 333 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he just fit. He checked all the boxes me. 334 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: I always loved watching him play when he was with 335 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: the Chargers. This move seems so desperate. Listen, Sometimes you 336 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: just make bad move after bad move. You're doubling down. 337 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: It was a terrible move to send your next two 338 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: first round picks to the Jets for Sauce Gardener. 339 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Bad move. 340 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: Well, let's make another bad move. It makes no sense 341 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: to me. Forty four years, hasn't. 342 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: Played since twenty twenty. Can't possibly help you can't possibly? 343 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: I guess Jeff George wasn't answering the phones. No. 344 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it does make sense on one level if 345 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: you think they're a running team that plays pretty good defense, 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: if you think that what you need is a guy 347 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: who can just go facilitate. 348 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: Like maybe the way Peyton did. 349 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: In the Broncos last Super Bowl run in the playoffs, 350 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: where his intelligence did it. I knew it and can 351 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: complete short passes. 352 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Look, Peyton was not of the game for five years, though. 353 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 5: I didn't hurt. 354 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: Though I agree with you, I'm not saying that. I 355 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: don't think anybody in the Cults organization would tell you, Hey, 356 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: this was one of our cards to play during the 357 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 4: during training camp. But nobody would tell you that. It 358 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: doesn't fit into the phrase desperate times call for desperate measures. 359 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: Listen, I how hard to see it work. I hope 360 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: for his sake that Riley Leonard and Brett Rippon can play. 361 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the Colt would probably take 362 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco back at this point right now even not 363 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: available obviously, but uh, something to keep an eye on there. 364 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: We'll see if Philip Rivers actually takes the field. As 365 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: mentioned before, Texans getting to win over the Chiefs and 366 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: at this point looks like the Chiefs are I just 367 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: the the what we've seen from the Chiefs obviously this 368 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: whole year, every single week, where like they don't look 369 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs of old. They don't look like the 370 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: Chiefs of old. And I don't know have they have 371 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: they gone too far to bring it back? 372 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they're six and seven, so it it feels like, Look, 373 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: never say. 374 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 5: The Mahomes can't do it. 375 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: It's funny I do the Power rankings every week and 376 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: I keep sort of keeping them in the top fifteen 377 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: because every loss until. 378 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: This week was a tight loss to a good. 379 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: Team, or like their schedule has been brutal. That's never 380 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: affected him before because they've always been the toughest team 381 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: on everybody's schedule. I would guess in all logic would 382 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: tell you they're done. It seems like Kelsey, who is 383 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, isn't quite the go to unlock 384 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: every secret code player that he once was. I can't 385 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: believe they recover from this. But ten and seven's also 386 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 4: on the table, which can get him in. 387 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: The draft is the great equalizer. It was designed right, 388 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: the inverted draft order to take the best teams and 389 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: put them at the bottom of every round, which allowed 390 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: the worst teams to draft the best players. I don't 391 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: care if you're really good at drafting, and they were 392 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: this year with Justin Simmons. Is Justin's Jason Simmons, the 393 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: left tackle from Ohio State, who's hurt and off them. 394 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: You can't possibly keep the talent level high when you 395 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: lose players through free agency, which they have and still 396 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: be able to be the Kansas City Chiefs. 397 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: They're not. They are not the same team, even. 398 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: Though Mahomes is there and Chris Jones and Travis Kelcey, 399 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: they're not the same roster. They've got to work on 400 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: drafting and they will middle of the pack and get 401 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: better players. 402 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, the draft is the long term equalizer. The short 403 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: term equalizer is injuries to your offensive line. Yeah, and 404 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 4: injuries everywhere, but really the offensive line, We've all seen that, 405 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: and they are way late on that. 406 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Couldn't do anything the other night. 407 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Nothing talking about injuries to the offensive line. The Chargers 408 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: have been dealing with a lot and Justin Herbert I 409 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: think got sacked six or seven times last night, but 410 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: still found a way to get a win. And just 411 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: another team, You're like, oh, maybe they're kind of out 412 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: of it. They're finding their way back in as well. 413 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 3: They're very well coached, and they're getting one of their 414 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: running backs back. And that was the way that Harball 415 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 3: always wanted to play was run the ball and use 416 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: play action with Justin Herbert having time to stand in 417 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: the pocket and send the ball downfield. If their running 418 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: game comes back. Now their offensive line obviously they're down 419 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: to what their third left tackle and their second right tackle, 420 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: but at the running game can be a great equalizer. 421 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: Plus he's a tough kid. 422 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Herbert's a good, good player that you worry when 423 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: he gets beat up like he is this year. You 424 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: hope for his sake, sort of like Burrow, you know, 425 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: and those two guys I like as much as any 426 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL. 427 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 5: Both of those guys taking a lot of shots. It's 428 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: like what you're worried about with Trevor last couple of years. 429 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: You know, at some point you don't want that wear 430 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: and tear to reduce a player's effectiveness over the long term. 431 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 4: But as long as Herbert's healthy for them, they're dangerous. 432 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: Hope he stays healthy because they host the Texans in 433 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: two weeks. 434 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Yes they do. He had surgery on that non throwing him, 435 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: but didn't seem to affect him too much last night, 436 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: So clearly they're still able to get a win and 437 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: he's still able to be effective at the quarterback position. 438 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: Say it's here in Jackson will tell you what's coming 439 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: up the rest of the week. JAG's fans, if you 440 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: want to customize Jaguars furniture for your homes, ich zicher 441 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: dot com to brows all the customizable options. Zip Cherry's 442 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: Furniture for fans. And this weekend's game against the Jets 443 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: brought to you by Geico. It feels good to Kaico 444 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: and only a couple more home games if you want 445 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: to get out there. I don't think there's going to 446 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: be the rain situation. I think it's back to typical 447 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: sunny Florida weather, so high sixties, I think maybe seventy ish. 448 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: So with a football team, let's go. 449 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: That's what we've been talking about. 450 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: Two weeks before Christmas. 451 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, this Jets game is a big game. 452 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's not eight and four versus 453 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: eight and four. 454 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 5: But the Texans are on your tail. 455 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: And I get that people haven't seen this, this sort 456 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 4: of contending, but every game in this stretch matters. 457 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 5: You know, the Jaguars of clinch right now. Nothing. They 458 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: haven't clinched to South. They're essentially in the playoffs right now, 459 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 5: but they haven't clinched. 460 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I mean they're in a playoff race 461 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: right now with the Texas. 462 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: So it's look. 463 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: This, I've been back since twenty eleven. They had a 464 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: good season seventeen, a good season in twenty two. This 465 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: is fun, you know, if you can get there Sunday, 466 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: this is fun stuff and it's a fun team to watch. 467 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: So there's my pitch. 468 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: Jack's had a couple of good teams in the mid 469 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: two thousands when Jack Derio was here, But this feels 470 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: more like the late nineties with Tom Coughlin, where you 471 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 3: expected them to be able to play good football against 472 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: As we talked about the best teams, right you look 473 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: at the teams they've beaten this year, and they're good teams. 474 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 3: When the Daggars used to line up, you knew they 475 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: could go to to toe with the best teams. 476 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: Have that same feeling. 477 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: But as John just said, you also have to go 478 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: to totoe with the teams that aren't that good. 479 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: Right now, you've got to find a way to get 480 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: a win. 481 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: And the Jets can be a good game. I mean 482 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: they've started off with oh and seven and eight, three 483 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: and three. Always remember when you're playing a team that 484 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: has a first year head coach, that head coach is 485 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 4: probably not going to get fired. So guess what the 486 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: players want to play for this guy because he's been 487 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: making decisions in their future. Well, they're still all in. 488 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: This is not third year guy playing out the strength. 489 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 3: And we touched briefly last week on the season finale 490 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty one, when the Colts came down 491 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: and all they needed to do was find a way 492 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: to beat a team that had only won two all 493 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 3: season long, and they couldn't do it, not against a 494 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback with an introom coach. So you've got to 495 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: remember the. 496 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: Past focus is important. We'll dive into that a little 497 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: bit on Thursday talk about specifically what they're going to 498 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: need to do against the Jets. So join us here 499 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow on the jet Zam