WEBVTT - #735 Packers Unscripted: Vegas trip

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my partner in crime, Wes Hodko. It's we're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and

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<v Speaker 1>Wes here to preview Monday Night Football, the first of

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<v Speaker 1>two Monday Night games that the Packers will play this year,

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<v Speaker 1>both on the road. This one will be in Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas at Allegiant Stadium against the Raiders. The Raiders are

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<v Speaker 1>one and three, the Packers are two and two, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the first question you ask with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders heading into this Monday Night game, and since

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<v Speaker 1>it's only Thursday, we don't really have much of a

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<v Speaker 1>read on anything yet, but who's going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Raiders? Will Jimmy Garoppolo be back or

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<v Speaker 1>will it be the second NFL start for the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>out of Purdue, Aidan O'Connell, who made his NFL debut

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<v Speaker 1>last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the number one thing to track here this

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<v Speaker 2>week because we'll see, obviously too DeVante Adams dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder injury. I would be absolutely flabbergasted if he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't play in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, Yeah, I'm with you there.

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<v Speaker 2>But Garoppolo that kind of crept up out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was almost like an aftermath kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that happened with one of the games that

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders played and then wasn't available last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh don you know. It led to O'Connell getting his

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<v Speaker 3>first start.

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<v Speaker 2>And realistically, it hasn't really mattered who the quarterbacks been

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<v Speaker 2>for the Raiders. They've had some issues there. Offensively, have

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<v Speaker 2>not been able to run the ball very well. They've

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<v Speaker 2>given up way too many turnovers. I said this in

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<v Speaker 2>our Insider Inbox column. I mean defensively they've been okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been fine. Max Crosby is an absolute beast, but

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<v Speaker 2>they only have one takeaway. And when you have ten

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<v Speaker 2>giveaways on offense and you can't get you know, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs going, it's gonna be uphill sledding. So whether it's Garoppolo,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's O'Connell, the Packers have to pressure the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in this one. This is I hate to use the

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<v Speaker 2>term get right game because you can look past any opponent,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is the type of opponent that I look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Green Bay Packers on paper, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, it's on the road, but this is a

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<v Speaker 2>game the Packers should win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too. And you said it with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to the turnovers ten to one through four games,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to be minus nine after four games. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a stark statistic. And certainly the Packers have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the Raiders, you know, down in the dumps, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, with regard to that statistic. And and but

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about you talk about a get right game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not something you you want to overplay in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. But we suggested this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on our last show. The Raiders offensively are going

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this as their potential get right game.

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<v Speaker 1>With regard to Josh Jacobs, a you know, the NFL's

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<v Speaker 1>leading rusher last year who has not been able to

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<v Speaker 1>get going this season, and the Packers have had their

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<v Speaker 1>struggles against the allowing two hundred plus rushing yards to

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<v Speaker 1>two of their first four opponents. Jacob's averaging just two

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<v Speaker 1>point seven yards per carry through four games, which is

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<v Speaker 1>which is a noticeably low number for a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>his production. Packers have talked about adjusting some things schematically

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<v Speaker 1>and what not to to defend the run better. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's really going to be I think a big, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>secondary storyline maybe you say, aside from the turnovers with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to the to the Raiders. Here is Josh Jacobs

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<v Speaker 1>and Raiders trying to get him going and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get their run defense fixed and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be in front of a national TV

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<v Speaker 1>audience on Monday night, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the cat and most game that the Raiders were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to play here. They've been doing this for the

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Where it's you know, Josh Jacobs in your backfield,

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Adams and the perimeter. Where are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>deploy your safeties? Where are you going to give attention?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And and Adams is you know, just a complete mind

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<v Speaker 2>boggle because you could put two defensive backs on him.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen three people on him and he still finds

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<v Speaker 2>a way to get open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He likes to count them, yeah, to see how

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<v Speaker 1>many people are guarding him.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way I count him is, well, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have three people back on number seven tight, you have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eight others that are responsible for the other

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of the field, and right that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>thought Josh Jacobs, that that compliment of one another really

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<v Speaker 2>helped them last year having the seasons that they had.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jacobs had the holdout.

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<v Speaker 2>He obviously felt some type of way about his contract

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<v Speaker 2>and how he wanted to be paid, and like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these running backs, working through that, he finally

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<v Speaker 2>comes back and this just hasn't been able to get

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<v Speaker 2>back on the tracks. I'm fully aware of this because

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<v Speaker 2>he's on my fantasy football team and I'm also off

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<v Speaker 2>to a one and three.

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<v Speaker 3>Start to this season, so we're doing great right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say this though, Michael, the Greenmit Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have to be up for this matchup, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>to look at Josh Jacobs as the threat that he

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<v Speaker 2>was last season, yes, and being able to contain him,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that is Rudy Ford or Darnell Savage being in

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<v Speaker 2>the box, whether that is you know, Devondre Campbell if

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<v Speaker 2>he's not out there, and it's Isaiah McDuffie running with

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<v Speaker 2>kway Walker, the Packers have to find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>clog the holes because whether they got stretched against Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>or they kind of got bulldozed a little bit, against Detroit.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay has just had a hard time getting hats

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<v Speaker 2>to the ball and that has to change or Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs will very seriously make make you pay for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. That is definitely a top priority

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<v Speaker 1>here for the Packers. You said it earlier from within

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<v Speaker 1>the context of it doesn't seem to matter who's playing

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Raiders. Their offense has just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been what it's been this year, and DeVante Adams continues

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<v Speaker 1>to prove that it doesn't matter who's throwing him the football.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, thirty three catches, three hundred ninety seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>and three touchdowns through four games. Like, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Adams is just on pace for another sixteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard fifteen touchdown season here for an offense that that is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hasn't found its way yet. I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, and I mean you and I know this,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody I understand you know Adams, he left Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>on good terms. He had his own reasons for wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to go. The front office accommodated him. The Packers made

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<v Speaker 1>the best they could out of the trade, and DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>Adams has said in certain public forums that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he felt he needed to he needed to prove he

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<v Speaker 1>could be who he was, you know, without Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>without a Hall of Fame quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>All that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, those of us who were here knew that. Anyway, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised in the slightest what he's done with

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders because look at the second half of twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>For half a season, he had a backup quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Hunley throwing him the ball and he produced. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the focal point of the offense. Everybody knew

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<v Speaker 1>he was the focal point of the offense with Hunley

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback, and he still produced on a regular basis

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<v Speaker 1>and won some games for the Packers with some big plays.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't surprise me at all what Adams is doing.

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<v Speaker 1>If he slowed down a little bit by that shoulder injury,

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<v Speaker 1>that won't bother me too much here because that could

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<v Speaker 1>help the Packers defense. And we'll see from a matchup standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Jyu Alexander is back from the back injury.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some positive news earlier this week. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers haven't gotten into their full blown practice preparation mode

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<v Speaker 1>for the Raiders at the time we're taping the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the Monday night game, things have been pushed back.

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<v Speaker 1>But after the weekend following the Thursday night game, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were back on the practice field Tuesday. Elton Jenkins

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<v Speaker 1>was back at what was back at practice after missing

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of games. Alexander was back on the practice field.

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave, who left the Lions game with a concussion,

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<v Speaker 1>he was back on the practice field, and it appeared

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we can tell that Aaron Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Watson were going through their practice routines coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lions game. No worse for Whear when they

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<v Speaker 1>had made their returns following injury. So David Baktieri is

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<v Speaker 1>on injured reserve Andandre Campbell wasn't practicing. John Runyan wasn't practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were some guys who remain out at least

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<v Speaker 1>as of this moment, but some potentially good news for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers on the health front.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will hop over to that party with you

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<v Speaker 2>in a second here, but I just want to close

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<v Speaker 2>on one more thing about DeVante Adams. Just strange. There's

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<v Speaker 2>two strange anomalies right now with Adams in addition, you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned him already had four hundred receiving yards. He still

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't even broke one yet this season. That's just pure

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<v Speaker 2>possession type receiver stuff, and that will happen. The Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have to hope that it's next week or further down

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<v Speaker 2>the line. But the other thing too, he is the

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<v Speaker 2>Raiders offense right now too. That's probably the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>has confused me the most. I mean, Hunter Renfro has

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<v Speaker 2>not done anything so far this season. Austin Hooper has

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<v Speaker 2>not produced anything. I mean, and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be a jerk about I'm just saying, like they have

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<v Speaker 2>like fifty receiving yards. Jacoby Myers came over, He's had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple opportunit. Josh Jacobs has gotten some opportunities in

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<v Speaker 2>the PASK game. But Tay is it right now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the part I'm really curious to see. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>see about Ji R Alexander getting back over to the

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<v Speaker 2>injuries and how the package, but how they match up

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<v Speaker 2>with this because if the Packers were defending the run

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<v Speaker 2>better right now, on paper, it would seem like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well yeah, Jy your travels with them, you give him

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<v Speaker 2>some cloud help things you can do with the cover

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<v Speaker 2>two to facilitate that. But if you do need to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of give some extra thought early on to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the run defense, that's where I if again we

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<v Speaker 2>got to see how Jaws back is, but that this

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<v Speaker 2>seems like the type of matchup where you actually do

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<v Speaker 2>want to see those guys kind of go head to

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<v Speaker 2>head and see if your best can try to negate

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<v Speaker 2>their best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, well. Most of most of the health news with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to the Packers is on the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and you already mentioned on the defensive side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. For the Raiders, you got Max Crosby.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a handful to deal with. The Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders have seven sacks as a team through four games.

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<v Speaker 1>Max Crosby has four of them. He's he is the

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<v Speaker 1>He is the guy on the defensive side of the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would certainly help Green Bay in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>finding some level of stability on the offensive line if

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins can can get back in there. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what his status will be as the week

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<v Speaker 1>goes along, but the fact that he was back on

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field Tuesday. He only missed the two games

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<v Speaker 1>after getting hurt in Atlanta. He said, you know, now

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't in you know, full full pads and you

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<v Speaker 1>know all the banging and stuff. But he told reporters

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<v Speaker 1>after practice on Tuesday, he got through the Tuesday practice

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<v Speaker 1>with no you know, with no pain or no real

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<v Speaker 1>issues at least in that moment. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like Rashid Walker is is the guy the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with at left tackle in Bakhtiari's place,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get a veteran pro bowler like Jenkins

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<v Speaker 1>back at left guard to be next to next to

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<v Speaker 1>that young guy. And uh and obviously the hope is

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<v Speaker 1>also that Zach tom is you know, a little further

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<v Speaker 1>removed from whatever happened to his knee in the Saints game,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's had a little bit of extra time as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to having to deal with that knee on a

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<v Speaker 1>short week, which is what happened against the Lions. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully some things turning in the right direction health wise

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers. On offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again, Max Crosby, he won't be moved around

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<v Speaker 2>as much as Hutchinson was last week. I mean, Aiden

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<v Speaker 2>Hutchinson was playing everywhere, but cornerback, it felt like. But

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about Crosby is he's just a mauler. He

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<v Speaker 2>is just a marauder. I mean, he just goes at

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<v Speaker 2>you play after play after play.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a back alley dude in a sense, like

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<v Speaker 1>out a football field, like you just it's like you

0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.280
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with him, but you really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to mess with him, like I don't know if that

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<v Speaker 1>makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And his size, I mean for that position, he just

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<v Speaker 2>he is a sixty minute headache to deal with. And

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<v Speaker 2>going back to a couple of years ago, even when

0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.440
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't necessarily producing the sacks, I think he still

0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.280
<v Speaker 2>ended up being All Pro that season because of how

0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.800
<v Speaker 2>much teams are his pressure, how which he got the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback off the spot. Now, the difficult thing for the

0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Raiders is I think they had certain feelings, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago when they get Chandler Jones, that was

0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be the one too. Now Chandler Jones is

0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.160
<v Speaker 2>out of the picture, so there is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more attention. There has been a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>attention on Crosby, who has entered this kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of his powers sort of stage of his career.

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<v Speaker 3>What I like about.

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<v Speaker 2>Elton though, if he can play in this one, even

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<v Speaker 2>if he's not at left tackle, even if he's not

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that's solely responsible for Crosby, having someone like

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<v Speaker 2>Rashid Walker, having a resource like that with Jenkins is

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<v Speaker 2>really valuable. You know, all credit in the world to

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<v Speaker 2>Royce Newman, but Jenkins is a two time Pro Bowler

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<v Speaker 2>now that has played really every position at the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>level to the highest ability, And if you have him

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<v Speaker 2>on the field, as much as you want to have

0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Dave out there, and as much as we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>that all off season, Elton was a part of this future.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the guy that they just extended. He was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be sort of this building block for them

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward. I think that can go a long way

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<v Speaker 2>for this Packers' offensive line. In addition to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that despite whatever Zach Tom was going for last week,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I talked about it, he wasn't flawless against Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>but he gave them a yeoman's effort against the Lions

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<v Speaker 2>to hold down that right tackle spot in a week

0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.040
<v Speaker 2>in which Green Bay was really hurting on the offensive

0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.080
<v Speaker 2>line with John Runyon also dealing with the ankle here's.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing to me schematically with regard to Crosby.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Packers can get Elton Jenkins back, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're Max Crosby and you're trying to rush Jordan Love's

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<v Speaker 1>blind side, so you're coming off of the left side

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<v Speaker 1>of the offense, how often do you want to stunt

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<v Speaker 1>inside where then you know the guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>pick you up as the pro bowler, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>stay outside where it's a first year starter in Rashid Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>So it would make sense that Crosby is going to

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<v Speaker 1>want to perhaps stay outside a little bit more rather

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<v Speaker 1>than you know, run, run the games and the stunts

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<v Speaker 1>with his fellow defensive lineman. Well, if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then that helps the Packers zero on him in a sense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like because as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not moving around in terms of where he lines

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<v Speaker 1>up the way Hutchinson did. But you know, they're always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing stunts and games and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And if and if Elton jenkins presence maybe just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>limits what they want to do there schematically because of

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<v Speaker 1>the matchup, well then you know x's and o's wise,

0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you can figure out how to give Rashid Walker a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of help and protect Love's blindside. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I think there's a there. There is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting piece to the uh to the chess match

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<v Speaker 1>there with regard to Crosby. But the other thing with

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<v Speaker 1>this Raiders defense, as you said at West four games

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<v Speaker 1>into the season, they have one takeaway, one interception. They've

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<v Speaker 1>not recovered an opponent's fumble. I think the opponents have

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<v Speaker 1>only put the ball on the ground a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a defense that has not been able to

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<v Speaker 1>generate takeaways and that's something that the Packers have to

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<v Speaker 1>continue as well, have to protect the football the way

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<v Speaker 1>they were protecting the ball in the first couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And much like you know, everyone always likes to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Packers and all they have all these first

0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.720
<v Speaker 2>round picks on defense, the Raiders don't have very many

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<v Speaker 2>at all. And that's a product I think of kind

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<v Speaker 2>of getting out of the Mayock era a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and now transitioning into this new spot where they're in

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<v Speaker 2>a way of which they're trying to compete, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>also kind of rebuilding. It's like this this half life

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of the vikings are in as well. For

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay standpoint, though, the part I'm really curious to

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<v Speaker 2>see is, Okay, if you get Aaron Jones out there

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<v Speaker 2>finally where he's uninhibited, if you get Christian Watson out

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<v Speaker 2>there more than you did a week ago, being able

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of start to play the chess match with

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<v Speaker 2>defenses rather than more of the checkers, because it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I give Matt Lafleur in the offensive coaches a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of credit the game plans that they came up with

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<v Speaker 2>when you're featuring you know, don Davian Wicks is a

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<v Speaker 2>rookie fifth round pick when you're trying to get the

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<v Speaker 2>ball into Jaden Reid's hands. But let's be real, all

0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.960
<v Speaker 2>summer long, it was about Jones, it was about Dobbs,

0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it was about Watson. That's the building block, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation of this offense, and we haven't been able to

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<v Speaker 2>see him together at all so far, realistically, outside of

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<v Speaker 2>a couple snaps last week. Right, If those guys, when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about the health of this football team, in

0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.200
<v Speaker 2>addition to the offensive line, you get your skill position

0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.920
<v Speaker 2>players going here, Now, what can you do now? What

0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of matchups can you do because I really don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing every forty time of the Raiders, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how many people can run with Watson in this

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<v Speaker 2>defense right now. I'm not sure how many people can

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<v Speaker 2>go sideline to sideline the way that Aaron Jones is

0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.200
<v Speaker 2>going to stretch you. That's the aspect, that's the dimension

0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.440
<v Speaker 2>of this offense that we have yet to see. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really wonder when you're looking at this matchup and

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<v Speaker 2>what Green Bay needs to achieve to slow down Max

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<v Speaker 2>Crosby and to be able to get downfield with the

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<v Speaker 2>football start faster, how those two guys could play into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think certainly with the way the Packers want

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<v Speaker 1>to get their running game going, as you know, sort

0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of that best friend for Jordan Love, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>boost to the pass protection is going to come from

0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.120
<v Speaker 1>getting the running game. And if you get Elton Jenkins

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and Aaron Jones back on the field for a full

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>compliment of snaps, I think that could potentially do wonders

0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 1>for the Packers running game. I want to ask your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on some other keys to victory here in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we've talked quite a bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>turnover issue. But aside from that, what is the at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of Wes Hodkowitz list as far as a

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<v Speaker 1>key to victory for the Green Bay Packer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all the run game, all of it. The Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers thirtieth ranked run defense against you know a run,

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<v Speaker 2>a run offense, it hasn't really been very proficient so

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<v Speaker 2>far against the Raiders. The Packers run offense as well,

0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.240
<v Speaker 2>that has struggled out of the gate without Aaron Jones.

0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 2>How do they handle I think the twenty fifth rank

0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 2>run defense against the Vegas Raiders. We made so much

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.959
<v Speaker 2>about Jordan Love and I give Jordan so much credit

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the first month of the season, the way he's handled

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.920
<v Speaker 2>this thing, how he's helped this team get to two

0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and two, but we never anticipated these fourth quarter comebacks.

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Everything being on his shoulders right away, and that's the

0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.000
<v Speaker 2>way it's kind of worked out. He's been put in

0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.399
<v Speaker 2>a position, some of it himself, some of it some

0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.000
<v Speaker 2>things around him. But the Packers need to be able

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 2>to take care of business against the run here because

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<v Speaker 2>for two reasons. One you have to execute against the

0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Raiders team that there appears to be room.

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<v Speaker 3>To execute against.

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<v Speaker 2>But two, the bye week is on the other side

0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 2>of this thing. Packers, I'm sure we'll do their cross

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the hall meetings. I'm sure they'll make some corrections, but

0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.159
<v Speaker 2>you want to feel good about where you're at. You

0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.600
<v Speaker 2>want to feel like you're making positive strides. If they

0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 2>come out here and Aaron Jones can put together another performance,

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.159
<v Speaker 2>let't have to touch the ball eighty times. But if

0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>he can put together another performance like he did against

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago in week one, if you can get a big

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 2>explod to play from Christian Watson, then that gets generated

0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.080
<v Speaker 2>off of the defense having to get pay more attention

0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to Green Bay's backfield. Those are the type of things

0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.760
<v Speaker 2>that I think you can kind of give a hang

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.640
<v Speaker 2>your hat identity sort of thing to your offense moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But I said in an inbox Mike, I'll say it

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<v Speaker 2>again to close out my point. I think this game

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:19.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to be won and lost in the run game.

0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.640
<v Speaker 2>One team's gonna win because of it, and one team

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<v Speaker 2>likely will lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you there. The only thing I will

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<v Speaker 1>add to that is the fact that you you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Adams hasn't you know, really broken a big one

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<v Speaker 1>yet this year. That that concerns me because a guy

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.400
<v Speaker 1>like that is always due, right, and.

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 3>He's a thirty two yarder, but he doesn't have like

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<v Speaker 3>that sixty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but here's but here's here's here's the thing for

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<v Speaker 1>all of the focus in you know, the narrative in

0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 1>what the Packers need to do to stop the run,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to improve in that area, and they absolutely

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 1>do by the same token. You know what what concerns

0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 1>me there is, you know, are they're going to be

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>end up being more vulnerabilities to give up the explosive plays.

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And you look at the Detroit game and I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this in a couple of different forms already.

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:11.520
<v Speaker 3>For as much as the.

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Packers got bulldozed by the run and the Lions racked up,

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the two hundred plus rushing yards. The Lions

0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 1>had five explosive plays in the first quarter, five explosive plays.

0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 1>When the Packers are playing their defense that is supposed to,

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, guard against explosive plays, the Lions had five

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of them in the first quarter that were worth I believe,

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:35.720
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty eight of their one hundred and

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>ninety four yards in that first quarter when they completely

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>dominated and took control of the game. The Packers can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a it's a tough balancing act for

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Matt Lafuer and Joe Barry and everybody who's involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this because for everything that you need to do to

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<v Speaker 1>as we talked about in our last show, to improve

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<v Speaker 1>against the run, to take opposing offenses out of that

0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.400
<v Speaker 1>mente of where you know, the Packers are just inviting

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>teams to run the ball because they're struggling so much

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to stop it. You can't you can't suddenly start giving

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.639
<v Speaker 1>up explosive plays because that's a recipe for defeat as well.

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>And and the Lions. The Lions didn't take control of

0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Thursday night's game because they ran the ball down the Packers' throats,

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.160
<v Speaker 1>they ran the ball down the Packer's throats after they

0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>took control of the game with explosive Plays's that's how

0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>this happened, and you can't lose sight of that as

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you move forward here trying to fix some of the

0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:33.320
<v Speaker 1>things that are ailing you.

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<v Speaker 2>We get these nice Microsoft surface tablets. Thank you, Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you. I didn't even realize this until I was

0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:45.639
<v Speaker 2>messing around at NFLGIS here. So Packers had seventeen interceptions

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<v Speaker 2>last season.

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<v Speaker 3>Gyra had a big year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pro Yeah, the Raiders since twenty twenty one, how

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<v Speaker 2>many interceptions do you think they have as a defense,

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<v Speaker 2>So two point two five seasons, I don't know, thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Interceptions in two and a quarter season.

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<v Speaker 2>Six six and one. Wow, that's all that is, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you almost think you'd get a couple of like just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just tip balls or you know, or that's wild. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that so it's not really been an anomaly. They're off

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<v Speaker 2>to a slow start with the I n TS. It

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<v Speaker 2>did a hard time getting them the last two years too.

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<v Speaker 1>They're yeah, they're not a they're not a defense. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not a defense that takes the ball away. They do

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they do like to pressure the quarterback though, and Crosby, Uh,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Crosby certainly is that guy other games. You know, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the here's the other thing. It'll be very interesting to

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>see Minnesota coming off of its first victory of the season. Now, oh,

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you have to go play the Super

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Bowl champs and the Kansas City Chiefs to try to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a one and four start as the defending NFC

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>North champions. So a lot of Packers fans have their

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 1>eye on that on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Packers had to do it last year too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, enjoy it, Yeah, enjoy enjoy that first place Enjoy

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that first place schedule in in the now seventeen game era.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing too, You know, you talked about

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the Packers. You know you want to go in you

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>want to go into your bye week feeling good about

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>some things. You know, you want to go in with victory. Obviously,

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>be three and two, nothing's given in this league. But

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions have a Carolina Panthers team that is

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<v Speaker 1>really really struggling, and it's you know, by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely the Detroit Lions are going to be four

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and one after this week. If you're the Green Bay Packers,

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, and if you lose to the Las Vegas Raiders,

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>you are most likely two games out of the division

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<v Speaker 1>leads suddenly after five weeks, when when you were just

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>tied with the Lions before they came into lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>So this game is this game is about getting some

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<v Speaker 1>things right, about getting a win going into the bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also going to be about keeping pace with

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<v Speaker 1>that Detroit Lions team that is the team to beat

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<v Speaker 1>in the division.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lions have to be salivating right now, especially the

0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>veterans that have been on that team that have seen

0:23:59.880 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the kind of rise up here the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>from a three win team to a team that you know,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>finally got a winning season last year to now being

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the division. In addition to obviously

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, it's gonna be a tough matchup. You gotta

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>go down there, you got to go on the road

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.919
<v Speaker 2>a stadium they've never played in before. Take care of business.

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>But then there's Minnesota against Kansas City. Then there's Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>against a Washington team in Washington that I think is

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than teams you know that they've been

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.199
<v Speaker 2>given credit for. I mean, they took the Eagles right

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 2>down to the wire last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know what you're Honestly, I'll say

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that I don't know what you're gonna get from Washington. Yeah,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>they got absolutely blown out of the stadium by the

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills or was it thirty seven to three or

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And then so they're, you know, a

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>huge underdog on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles and

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>they take their division rival right to the wire, and

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you know they had a shot to win if they

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.120
<v Speaker 1>go for two that on that last second touchdown pass.

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>But not only that, they were beating the Eagles for

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 1>a good portion of that game and then had to

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown at the end to force the overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're gonna get with Washington. When

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>you throw throw in that, it's on a short week,

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it's even I think it's even less predictable as to

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<v Speaker 1>what the commanders are going to look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll take it up in one more notch. What

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 3>are you going to get from the Chicago Bear?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding When you have that type of performance

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 2>against that opponent and then finally lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to blow a twenty one point lead at home

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<v Speaker 1>against a winless Broncos team and now you have to

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 1>go travel to the East Coast on a short week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So getting back to my original point, like, Okay,

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 2>let's just say the odds are what they are, and

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 2>you know they have the Bears. Let's say they take

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>an elegance Washington. Let's say Kansas City finds itself offensively

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and takes care of business against Minnesota, Detroit beats Carolina.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 3>They're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be looking alright going into that Monday night game against

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Green Bay, you know, trying to see what the Packers

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>do against the Raiders. That's the benefit of being the

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.120
<v Speaker 2>front runner. That's the benefit of being able to handle

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 2>those situations. For the Packers' perspective, though, there's one opponent

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 2>you can worry about now, and I thought they had

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the right mentality in that locker room coming out of

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that loss against the Lions. Kenny Clark Echoedoya earlier this

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>week as well, you can't do anything about that one yet.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Six weeks from now, seven weeks from now, you have

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity again, but you don't have that now. The

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>only thing you can do now is try to go

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>into allegiance, try to shut down DeVante, try to take

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the ball away a little bit, keep your quarterback clean,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and get into that by with three victories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quickly before we go big game in the NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>In the larger picture of things, the Dallas Cowboys against

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<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco forty nine Ers.

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<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts on that, well, I'm really interested to see

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>how Dallas handles the forty nine ers now offensively.

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I now Deebo has been kind of banged up as well,

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 2>so we'll see how he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas doesn't have digs on the defensive.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 3>They don't have digs.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And Christian McCaffrey when he's healthy, man, he's arguably the

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>best player in the NFL.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Here's what I love about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a tweet I saw earlier today before we

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 2>hopped in the studio from Robert Mays and an incredible

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 2>look into what Kyle.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Shanahan is doing right now.

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 2>And he is playing teams two steps ahead of what

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>they're giving them defensively, I mean, they whatever the plan

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 2>is that they're getting, it's like they're just turning it

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 2>on its head and finding some type of weakness to

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 2>exploit on a week to week basis. And with that quarterback.

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's the thing, Mike. You can draft a

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.160
<v Speaker 2>quarterback second overall, you can take them with the last pick.

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 3>In the trap.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 2>What you ultimately need is you need somebody that is

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>going to play the scheme as it's intended and make

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>plays when they're presented. Brock Purdy gives you all of that.

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 2>May not have the biggest arm, may not have the

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>prototypical size, but he executes this scheme better than anybody

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 2>I've seen.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>And he protects the football, and he protects the football.

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>So when you have McCaffrey of all this, I think

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 2>this is a gut check moment for the Cowboys because suddenly,

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 2>if the forty nine ers run you over, now you're

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>three and two. Now you've got questions to answer. So yeah,

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I like the forty nine ers chances in this, but

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 2>obviously Mike and I love the scheme that they run

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 2>down there with O'Brien. It's just a question of whether

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>or not Digs. Everybody laughed at the Digs injury, not

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the injury per se, but it's like, oh, he's not

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that big of a player. Anybody can cover for two

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>seconds and it's like that was it. He was a

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 2>big ball hawk. Yeah, and now he's not there.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. I mean, there are guys who have a

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>nose for the ball in this league and uh, and

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>turnovers play such a huge part in the outcome of games.

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And and Trayvon Diggs was a was a turnover machine

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>in some respects for the Dallas Cowboys, and and losing that,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 1>you just you just don't you just don't replace that,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and you know, and from the Cowboys perspective,

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is the team that knocked him out

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs, and you know, and all that kind

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. So big game in the NFC, it should

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun one, uh, to keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night. But with that we will call it a

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<v Speaker 1>rap on this edition A Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see next time.

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<v Speaker 2>M HM.