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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled, a little trepidacious to be joined in our

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Speaker 1: third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer, actor, and twisted motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Just stand up album. The Blake album Stuffed Boy and

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Speaker 1: Live from the Pandemic debut at number one on iTunes

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Speaker 1: in Amazon. His album Twelve Years of Voicemails from Todd

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Speaker 1: Glass to Blake Wexler charted on Billboard. Please Welcome, the Larious,

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Speaker 1: the Chaotic. He's riding a recumbent bike in short shorts

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Speaker 1: and his plumpers are on full display. It's Blake. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. This is Blake Wexler, a

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Speaker 1: k A Sight or day side or day or day

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Speaker 1: sor day or day side or day Sidday Sights all site.

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Speaker 1: That is not from Paul Garabina. That's for me. I

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Speaker 1: referred that and it is titled Saturday Sights all Zite

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Speaker 1: for sighting. That's one of those songs that like not.

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Speaker 1: Now that I've heard it a bunch of times, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't strike you as much. But the first time I

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Speaker 1: heard it, I'm like, this guy's just screaming Saturday over again.

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Speaker 1: Here someone remixed that, like in the air tonight we're

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Speaker 1: with the with the drum where it's like don't, don't,

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Speaker 1: but they looped it over and over and over again

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Speaker 1: for like four minutes before it just never ends. Where

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Speaker 1: I wonder if someone could do that, say Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Thurday, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: just trying different emphasis is again because what is it? Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, has someone made it? No? Yeah, the internet,

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Speaker 1: the internet is no, someone did one for twenty one

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Speaker 1: pilots Saturday? Is there? Did somebody remake the twenty one

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Speaker 1: pilots one? Jack? We're talking about Elton John's version. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you know that one you're talking about like when

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Speaker 1: people always do whatever for ten hours. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: like the that like YouTube format, just like just like

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Speaker 1: when people do like I know, I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know I no, no, no, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know I know what. No,

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Speaker 1: guess what? Yeah? Baby? Where is it? We're nineteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: nineteen minutes, yeah, yeah, an hour five minutes in the

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Speaker 1: old things that we're gonna come in and change it

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Speaker 1: at some point, right, like you still hold out. The

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Speaker 1: best is the visuals to the video. It's a non

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Speaker 1: ending loop of just like an infinite going into Elton

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Speaker 1: John's mouth. Soom oh my god, I'm gonna just long

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Speaker 1: that YouTube video is um look, I'm just gonna say

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Speaker 1: say it up top. I was against having Blake on

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Speaker 1: today our We're gonna have Henry kissing drawn yeah, and

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Speaker 1: our podcast to just recover them from the last time

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Speaker 1: Blake was here and referred to his legs as plumpers,

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Speaker 1: and like Henry and I have the same agent, and

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Speaker 1: I can get his bookings when he can't make them,

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Speaker 1: which is frequently he's not well. If you haven't noticed,

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Speaker 1: I loved your talk at Davos. I was part of

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Speaker 1: things in perspective. Yeah, yeah, great, Like no, it's not

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Speaker 1: ower fault. It's why are they hating because we have money?

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Speaker 1: I don't get it, guys, Oh jealousy? Is that? Maybe

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Speaker 1: I ever heard of it? Thank you anyways, Blake, it's great,

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Speaker 1: it's great to have you back. Blake did you see

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Speaker 1: did you see Shaq get pushed into the Christmas tree

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Speaker 1: by Yeah, that's what we're talking about. I said, with

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Speaker 1: the people crave this continent, we need to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. On inside the NBA, there was like

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Speaker 1: a foot race where Kenny put shoved fucking Shock into

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Speaker 1: like a like probably like a Christmas tree, and half

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Speaker 1: they're running, they go shoulder to shoulder. Shock goes like

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Speaker 1: head first into this fucking Christmas and like vanishes into

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Speaker 1: it because it's so big it is. And by falling

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Speaker 1: into the Christmas tree instead of continuing to move in

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Speaker 1: like unimpeded, uh, that Christmas tree saved three lives because

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Speaker 1: like people working behind the scenes, that they would have

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Speaker 1: been crushed. I'm surprised Shack hasn't given himself the nickname

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Speaker 1: of the vociferous coniferous yet after falling into that tree,

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Speaker 1: I think there's nothing more objectively funny than a person

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Speaker 1: falling into a tree because you think it would be painful,

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Speaker 1: but you do get absorbed by the pot. There's something

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Speaker 1: gives them the shoulder to shoulder. Here it is. You

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Speaker 1: just see his feet stick it out. Yeah, it looks

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Speaker 1: like a Wizard of Oz in the house lands on

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Speaker 1: it up. Um. Yeah, I think I would be screamed.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he would have been where we not on um,

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Speaker 1: His name was Christmas Tree Mike, and he got that

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Speaker 1: name because he was always jumping into Christmas trees. See,

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Speaker 1: this is a thing like Key for Sutherland did it

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Speaker 1: in that one video and it's like one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest videos of just drunken madness that I've ever seen. Now,

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Speaker 1: Shack getting pushed into one like this feels like a

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Speaker 1: thing that just diving into Christmas trees might it's time

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Speaker 1: might be coming, And apparently it already was with Christmas trees.

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Speaker 1: Is that like our new way of like pushing back

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Speaker 1: against like creeping theocracy? Yes, hold on, I just I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen the Key for Sutherland one in a while. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is he like at a hotel lobby. You a

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Speaker 1: pirate man? That would explain everything just taking that take

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Speaker 1: the tree down. He kind of dives. It's not a

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Speaker 1: satisfying die. He dies with his hands like straight up

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Speaker 1: do you want to? Like? But full arm and leg

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Speaker 1: guy saying key for you're a pirate man, and key

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Speaker 1: for responding that would explain everything before. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 1: explain everything. You ever seen him out in l a drunk?

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Speaker 1: that's like another l A story. People would you you

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Speaker 1: was like you'd always probably intersect with Andy Dick doing

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Speaker 1: something absolutely ridiculous or illegal. And then the other one

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Speaker 1: was key for Sutherland. Yeah, Brian came in the chat. YEP.

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Speaker 1: I know, dude, if you were hanging around the fucking

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Speaker 1: canters on Fairfax, you definitely were running into Andy Dick

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Speaker 1: because that's where I always saw him. I've seen him there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, like, yo, that washed up dude is there

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get touched inappropriately while eat a grilled

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Speaker 1: struck by like being like, hey, you want to go

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Speaker 1: like Porsche like with like two other dudes, and then

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Speaker 1: miss it. I miss that more than anything else, not

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Speaker 1: not not the French. I'll miss you most of all.

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Speaker 1: Little Wizard of Oz reference for the kids, What is

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Speaker 1: something from your search histories that is revealing about who

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Speaker 1: you are? Catherine? You want to start us off? Sure?

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Speaker 1: I looked and I was like, what's sort of weird

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Speaker 1: and illuminating here? Horse head bumper head bumper? Yeah was one.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a horse. I'm a horse, mom, And um,

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Speaker 1: that's how you like to Greek with a little head

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Speaker 1: bump a little it's like a little thing that they

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Speaker 1: really dorky kind of like thick leather pope cap, which

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Speaker 1: thinking like, well, you know the curvy one, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is there might be some really interesting directions to

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Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen the big good pope

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Speaker 1: hat in a while. The one that's just not really

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Speaker 1: like any other head that has ever been worn by

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Speaker 1: don't know why that's what I want with holding in

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Speaker 1: me wonder how the Pope feels about White Lotus and

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Speaker 1: if he's been watching this series maybe if Hill appear

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Speaker 1: in the finale. These are all questions that are now

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Speaker 1: coming up for me. Yeah, there's a lot of religious

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Speaker 1: art in there, so who knows. How about you, Leah,

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Speaker 1: what what's something from your search history. That's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are. Well. One of the most recent things

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Speaker 1: I searched was Mistress America trailer, which is a movie

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Speaker 1: directed by Greti Gerwig. I was reading a long profile

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Speaker 1: I don't really watch movies. I watch movie trailers, and

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Speaker 1: still on any given day, I'm searching a trailer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: don't really have to watch the movies, and they're so emotional,

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Speaker 1: they'll pack all those emotions in there. Why don't we

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Speaker 1: have like Best Trailer Awards at the Oscars. I've asked

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Speaker 1: this question many times. Brilliant observations, desperately needed, and not

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Speaker 1: enough credit given to those trailer cutters, right, exactly, They're

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Speaker 1: the unsung heroes of our time. Really, thank you? Are

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Speaker 1: they the same people who do like the emotional sports

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Speaker 1: video stories like for the Olympics? You know, those little

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Speaker 1: like they take you on that same emotional roller coaster

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Speaker 1: a baby for those they make me cry every single time.

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Speaker 1: I love an emotional Olympics story, micro emotional roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: That's like a professional skill set. M h. I just

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Speaker 1: looked at the run time for Avatar to the Way

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Speaker 1: of the Water and it is like, not, it is

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Speaker 1: not a number that I've ever seen as a run

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Speaker 1: It was like a hundred and nineties something minutes. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So three hours. They don't want you to know. They're like,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can't do the math. Can't do math, They'll

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Speaker 1: just go to the movie. But I'm excited to see that,

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Speaker 1: but less a little less exciting. I might just watch

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Speaker 1: the trailer and I know, right just I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna find out the whole plot, who dies,

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Speaker 1: with the romances and we just need minutes so you get.

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Speaker 1: How was the Gretor Garwig trailer? It was great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love Greti Garwig. I should probably actually watch the movie,

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Speaker 1: like that is something that I should maybe give time to.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I did give time to is

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Speaker 1: the extremely long profile about her, so I have time

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Speaker 1: to read I just don't always have time to watch

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Speaker 1: to our movies. I mean, God, bless you are far

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Speaker 1: more enriched for it, for giving time to reading more

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Speaker 1: than watching, Like, props to you on that one. I'm

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Speaker 1: like the last person in America still reads up here.

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Speaker 1: So this is not the Barbie movie that we've been cooking. No,

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Speaker 1: but it was about the Barbie movie. And did you

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Speaker 1: see those skills? They were amazing? Oh my god, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Senate races for the Republican Party. They were keeping

423
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Speaker 1: nine nine cents of every dollar donated. So it's just

424
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Speaker 1: like it's wild to see the levels of just like

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Speaker 1: all kinds, like just how race is playing out in

426
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Speaker 1: so many ways, Like the runoff itself is like a

427
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Speaker 1: relic of like a tool of white supremacy, the Republicans

428
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Speaker 1: thinking that, like black candidates are interchangeable to voters. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Like okay, the new like the lack of nuance or

430
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Speaker 1: it's just the ignorance there. And then like the extraction

431
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Speaker 1: of capital like off the back of his campaign to

432
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Speaker 1: benefit mostly white Republicans, Like it has it all, folks,

433
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Speaker 1: This has it all. So we'll see. But I mean

434
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Speaker 1: the Democrats already have their majority, are the way, but

435
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Speaker 1: this is this, it's something else to look at. Wowe

436
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Speaker 1: cents of every dollar. That's that's wild. It's the whole

437
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Speaker 1: I mean that whole apparatus, like all the all the

438
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Speaker 1: fundraising that Trump was doing in the aftermath of the

439
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: last election and like not doing anything with that money,

440
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: like just building up his own personal quote unquote war chest.

441
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Speaker 1: It's it feels like something people are like, that's crazy.

442
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: And then we just kind of moved on from but

443
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: straight up grifting the people that he's relying on to

444
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Speaker 1: come out and vote for votes. Well, for four, I

445
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: must say, is the Republican Party just going to crash

446
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: and burn in a pile of grift. Yeah, I mean

447
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: it feels like it's because like already there's in fighting

448
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: because Marjorie Taylor Green de announced Nick Fuentez. So now

449
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: like the super far right that even had her back

450
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: is now like, oh she's a chump, right, like getting

451
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: mad at her. You're like, yo, you can't make this

452
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Speaker 1: all this whole group of people happy, like like it's

453
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Speaker 1: just it's it's going to be interesting. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that's why it's interesting to also see Decent this

455
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: his whole like strategy in which his whole thing is

456
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: like he's trying to say as little as possible and

457
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Speaker 1: trying to let Trump do as much damage to himself

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Speaker 1: before they start like trading shots. And that's really the

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Speaker 1: one I'm really willing to see if Trump is able

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Speaker 1: to just bully everyone into being like Okay, fine, you're

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00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: the fucking nominee, like you know, or if they're going

462
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: to try and find a different strategy. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. The One thing with the Republicans is they're

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Speaker 1: not very elastic when it comes to white supremacy and

465
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: letting you know this, the nazison to the party, they

466
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: will stretch the ship out of that direction. They can

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00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: bend that way for sure, yes, but that's one thing

468
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Speaker 1: they can do. That's one thing they do well that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats don't do is they can make people in

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Speaker 1: their party fall into line, and the Democrats allergic to that.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats, I feel like, aren't aligned with what the

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Speaker 1: people who end up voting for them actually want, whereas

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Speaker 1: the Republicans they're like, yeah, yeah, we just don't say

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Speaker 1: that ship out loud, but we actually want the thing

475
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Speaker 1: that you are voting for, and that like you you want.

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Speaker 1: Like ultimately, they're aligned with their base and the Democrats

477
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Speaker 1: are have to like remain I don't know if it's

478
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Speaker 1: even have to or want to, but they're ultimately beholden to,

479
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, corporations, and so you can't even really compare

480
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: the two parties because the Democrats are like a corporate

481
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: machine that is just doing the bidding of, like unseen,

482
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Speaker 1: un speaking, like ultimately the most powerful people in the party,

483
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Speaker 1: and they have this base that they have to like

484
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Speaker 1: pretend like they're doing the bidding up, whereas the Republicans,

485
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Speaker 1: I think have the the advantage of at least they

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Speaker 1: the courage of their convictions, which are you being being

487
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Speaker 1: with supremacists exploiting like white grievance politics. Yeah, yeah, because

488
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Speaker 1: that is like the think that like, yo, look we

489
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Speaker 1: all get it right, we're matter, we can move forward

490
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: where Yeah, it's hard for Democrats, like we get it.

491
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Speaker 1: Working people need support and we need to stand by

492
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Speaker 1: the unions in order to fight their employers for a

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Speaker 1: better wage and cut to that rail world that the

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Speaker 1: line go up. Yeah, the ultimately they care about the

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Speaker 1: line go up. I wonder if like eventually they're like, look,

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Speaker 1: y'all will try and get you healthcare. If you can

497
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Speaker 1: figure out a way for y'all to have health care

498
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Speaker 1: and make line go up, right, if you can do that,

499
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: then sure, like we're all ears. But everything y'all are

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Speaker 1: talking about means line goes down for people we funk with,

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Speaker 1: and that's you know, yeah, all right, Well, speaking of

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Speaker 1: systemic problems, Yeah, I want to kind of continue talking

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Speaker 1: to you series about just you know, you've been reporting

504
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Speaker 1: three years now of just this systemic problem of unaccountable

505
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Speaker 1: police violence in Los Angeles, and the similarity of the

506
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Speaker 1: stories is shocking, Like each one is this cataclysmic failure

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Speaker 1: of human rights and of just you know, any sort

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Speaker 1: of anything that anyone would think of as a civilized family.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just but over and over again, you know,

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Speaker 1: the police or the sheriff's shoot or maim someone, many

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Speaker 1: times in front of their family, the person in questions,

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Speaker 1: often you know, having a mental health crisis or doing

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Speaker 1: some non violent offense like dealing marijuana. There's also, you know,

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Speaker 1: an epidemic that you highlight of, like brutal beating of

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Speaker 1: people in prison, like to death or near death while

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Speaker 1: while handcuffed, and if the person isn't immediately killed, they

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Speaker 1: often leave them to die with no medical attention, oftentimes

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Speaker 1: again in front of their loved ones. And then the

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Speaker 1: officers make up a lot I not like many times,

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Speaker 1: not even really attempting to make it believable. Like they'll

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Speaker 1: plan a gun that doesn't even match their report, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or they won't. It'll there was a ghost gun. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: but they'll be like, yeah, it was a black gun,

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Speaker 1: and then the gun they planned as a chrome gun,

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00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, yeah, you got us. Because

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00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: the lie, they don't even have to like do a

527
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: meticulous job of lying, because when they get caught, they

528
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: just get sued for millions of dollars that comes from taxpayers,

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Speaker 1: like taxpayers pay for their funk ups, and then you

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Speaker 1: know it's not not only is it not addressed at

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Speaker 1: a systemic level, the officers in question are either like

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Speaker 1: left to continue doing the same job and like oftentimes

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Speaker 1: kill other people who are made to retire and collect

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Speaker 1: like huge pensions, again paid for by taxpayers. And it's

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, it's really startling to you know,

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Speaker 1: read it in your original peace and hear it, you know,

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00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: in your reporting in the podcast, just like laid out

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: side by side that like there's just nothing being done

539
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. And yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like we're we're also seeing like how

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Speaker 1: how do you think you've you're you've done so much

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Speaker 1: amazing like detailed reporting about Los Angeles. Do you hear

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Speaker 1: from people in other parts of the country saying that

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Speaker 1: they see similar things happening where they are? Oh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly so. I've heard from people, and I want to

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00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: say twenty different states that have either been victims of

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Speaker 1: what they believe to be police gang violence or even

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00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: I've heard from police officers that reach out to me

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Speaker 1: and say I am really concerned about what I think

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Speaker 1: is a gang in my department, right, Yeah, is it

551
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: like just operating pretty much in the exact same way

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00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: like they have They have like their semiotics, their symbolism,

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00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: they have tattoos or whatever names. It's not just sort

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, that station is kind of out of control,

555
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: like they have a like identity as well. They do. Yeah,

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00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: they're they're doing activities that mean, well, what we have

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Speaker 1: in the California Penal Code as the standard of the gang,

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00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: which is three or more people, they have a common

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Speaker 1: name or unifying symbol or hand gesture. They are committing

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: criminal offenses, and they are doing that in order to

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00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: further the reputation of the gang. Yeah. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's like I feel like it's just like any social

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Speaker 1: setting like that that people get in groups or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and in this case, when you have people who are

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Speaker 1: armed and can just kill with impunity like that, like

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Speaker 1: that almost that this gang thing is probably it's safe

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Speaker 1: to believe that more than not, it's probably existing in

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Speaker 1: someone city. I would say, so, yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: definitely corruption happening in your city that's not unique to

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles County Sheriff's apartment. The you know, the

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Speaker 1: tactics that are used by the l A. S D.

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Speaker 1: I've seen repeated across the country, and there are lots

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Speaker 1: of you know, stories by other journalists that break down

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Speaker 1: these tactics that completely mirror what we're seeing in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: What we're what what's happening in the l A County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's apartment with deputy gangs. It's probably the most well

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Speaker 1: known gang issue, but it certainly isn't the only one. Yeah,

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00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: it really they the just lack of accountability and the

579
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: like they feel like drunk on power. Sometimes they're just

580
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: drunk but just doing whatever the funk they want it

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00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Like it's it feels like a fraternity or you know,

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Speaker 1: like a like some ivy league school full of like

583
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: rich kids have just never seen a consequence in their

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Speaker 1: life because they there's just this institutional knowledge that they

585
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: can get away with fucking anything they want. And the

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00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: only thing that they seem motivated by is not keeping

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Speaker 1: anyone safe, but insisting on their own right to basically

588
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: kill people at will. Like that's the thing that seems

589
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: to really motivate them is when that is threatened when

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: that's questioned, they really seem to get that. That's when

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00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: they come together and do a lot of damage. Is

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Speaker 1: anytime they feel like somebody's going to criticize them or

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00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: make it so that systemic advantage is not there for them,

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00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: right exactly. There's a quote, I think and the jump

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: Out Boys episode where they they're like Booklet, they're like gang.

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Speaker 1: Book defines them as alpha dogs who think and act

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Speaker 1: like the wolf, but never become the wolf, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's like an overt reference or if

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00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: it's just heavily influenced by the teachings of David Grossman,

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Speaker 1: who we've talked about on this show. But he's this

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Speaker 1: former army ranger who goes around like teaching cops to

602
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Speaker 1: think about the places the police as enemy territory. And

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Speaker 1: that's like warrior mentality, right, yeah, warrior mentality. His his

604
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote science is called killology, and he's basically, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he calls himself America's top police trainer, and that

606
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: sounds like he's like ragging, but he teaches, you know,

607
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: countless police forces to basically kill at a moment's notice

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Speaker 1: and not feel guilty about it, and it's it's just

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00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: straight up like I mean, his backgrounds military and he's

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00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: you know giving police forces this marine training, this, you know,

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Speaker 1: like just systematizing of like killing and violence and like that.

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00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 1: It's a it's an nationwide kind of program that he's

613
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: gotten rich by just like putting out there. And the

614
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: thing he always talks about is like you gotta have

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Speaker 1: the wolf mentality and like because there's wolves and we're

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: sheep dogs, but we have to be able to think.

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00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: It gets very complicated and like you need a fucking

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00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: flow chart to like know who's the sheep dog and

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Speaker 1: who's the wolf and when you're acting like a wolf

620
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: but you're a sheep and wolves clothing and all this ship.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately his belief, like for instance, with the Black

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Speaker 1: Lives Matter protests, his state of belief is that they

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Speaker 1: need to be more prepared to use force because of

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Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter protests, because you know, he was

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Speaker 1: a big spreader of the live that like the Black

626
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Speaker 1: Lives Matter protesters were trying to kill cops, which you

627
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: know comes up in her show that like that's just

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00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: a thing that they really want to fucking believe and

629
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: have no support for that, like when people are protesting

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Speaker 1: them that they're actually to harm them. What what's the

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Speaker 1: mentality like series like, because we've seen clips where you know,

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Speaker 1: like people interview cops like John burn Thaw on his

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00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: podcast he has like this other copies like where do

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Speaker 1: you think all this police reform stuff coming from? Man?

635
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Speaker 1: Like that's literally were like, Yo, what sir? How like

636
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, like with the added scrutiny with like like

637
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: reporting like yours and things like that. Is there even

638
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: awareness within the departments like that they're like, hey, maybe

639
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: we need to tone it down or are they completely

640
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: like on some like self righteous ship where they're like

641
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: not not not like these people are tripping. These people

642
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: are tripped. Most most police officers that I speak to

643
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: are very in favor of reform of oversight. A few

644
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: of them even say that they need less money in

645
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: the department. That's another sentiment I hear a lot. They

646
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: won't use the words defund the police, but they will

647
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: say we do not need a budget, we don't need

648
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: more money. They yeah, I mean they say we don't

649
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: need more we do not need more money, and we

650
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: certainly don't need all the money that we're getting. And yeah,

651
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: I and that, and that's police officers that I speak

652
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: to across the political spectrum, Democrats, Republicans, they all for

653
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: the most part agree that, yeah, there is a huge

654
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: issue going on. We do need more accountability, we need

655
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: more oversight that is not coming from inside the Sheriff's department.

656
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: It needs to be an outside third party. And yes,

657
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: we could do with less money, and we should do

658
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: it with less money. Yeah, it's almost unbelievable. Some of

659
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: them even say we should get rid of the department.

660
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: And that's coming from both sides of the political spectrum

661
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: as well. Is that because they're saying, like I'm not

662
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: sure what good we're doing anymore or exactly they think

663
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: they think that they're doing more harm than good and

664
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: they think that the department is so far gone that

665
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: it can't be saved. Yeah, it seems like a lot

666
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: of the police that you interview, our former police officers

667
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: that they have this experience arians up close with like detailed,

668
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, just seeing the corruption encountering, like what happens

669
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: when someone tries to address the corruption. And yeah, that

670
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: like it's understandable that they're like, I don't know, this

671
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: is this is hopeless. Yeah, I'm like, how do you

672
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: feel with Robert Luna coming in in terms of, you know,

673
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: like his potential to you know, obviously be somewhat better

674
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: than Viennueva. Yeah, the bar is really on the floor there. Yeah,

675
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: I think Robert Luna would have to do a lot

676
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: of really truly awful ship to get on really anyone's

677
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: bad side at this point. Yeah, I'm hopeful that, you know,

678
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: we can see a return to normalcy in the Sheriff's department. Um,

679
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: and we've already seen that. I mean, I've never I

680
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: don't think there would be a chance in hell in

681
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the prior four years for me to interview Sheriff Alex Vienueva.

682
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: But I was able to interview now Sheriff Luna, which

683
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: you know, Sheriff vien Aueva like bounced me out of

684
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: his press conferences. So that's that's already, that's pretty positive.

685
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: He's willing to speak. So yeah, right, yeah, and I think,

686
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens. I don't

687
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: think that, you know, he singlehandedly can eliminate the deputy

688
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: gang issue in four years. I mean, it's it's a

689
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: fifty year problem and he's one man and I think

690
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: that he understands that it's a deeply entrenched issue that's

691
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: going to take, you know, some serious overhaul. And I'm

692
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: excited to see, you know, what the Luna administration is

693
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: going to look like and what it means to have

694
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Robert Luna is the sheriff of Los Angeles County. Yeah. There.

695
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Vieneueva came to power on like as a

696
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote progressive Democrat, but he, like your podcast, like

697
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: really exposed the like he was connected already to like

698
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Kevin da Leone and like some of some of these

699
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: people who have now been out it as white supremacists.

700
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: So it's this deeply entrenched, you know problems. So that

701
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: was like, I guess something that was making me feel

702
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: less hopeful about Luna as like well, vien Auea came

703
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: in and was claiming that he was going to reform things,

704
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: and he was like worse than like created more of

705
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: a problem, And so what's to be different about this guy?

706
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: And it does seem like there's a difference because of

707
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: your reporting and because of you know, some of the

708
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: systemic white supremacy that's being exposed just throughout the political

709
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: machine in Los Angeles and much more, much more to

710
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: be exposed. Yeah, right, of course. Yeah, all right, let's

711
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: take a quick break and then we'll come back and

712
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: talk about some that AI selfie art app that everyone's buying.

713
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: And we're back and let's talk about your podcast. Mary.

714
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: Let's talk about When You're Invisible, because your first episode

715
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: dropped last week. I think I did it did an

716
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: episode two just dropped today yesterday. So in your first interview,

717
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: in your first episode, you interviewed someone named Ralph who

718
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: works at an Ivy League package center and it's Columbia University.

719
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: You went to Columbia, That's how you kind of met him,

720
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: and he talks about growing up in Washington Heights and

721
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: then like coming to this Ivy League campus with its

722
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: like beautifully manicured lawns and old buildings, and I think

723
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: he said something like why why didn't I even know

724
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: that this existed? Where was this? But you specifically use

725
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: the phrase working class in the intro to When You're Invisible,

726
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: and you know, like I mentioned of top, America has

727
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: this pervasive myth that class doesn't exist because you're always

728
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: just like one break away from being a millionaire. And

729
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: I think I think an idea that your first couple

730
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: episode get at is that you know that that is

731
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: not true, and also like it when you are in

732
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the working class, a lot of times people treat you

733
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: as if you're invisible, and like some of the behaviors

734
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: that they described. I think it was the guest of

735
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: the second episode was talking about like a girl not

736
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: getting the package she wanted, a student at Columbia not

737
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: getting the package she wanted as quickly as possible and

738
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: just laying on the ground, plugging her ears and like

739
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: screaming at the top of her lungs until just being

740
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: like la la la. Yeah, yeah, I know. Their stories

741
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: are insane, Like even one that we didn't get to

742
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: include for Ralph was like he was like, they're these

743
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: turnstiles to get into the building from the street where

744
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: the package center is, and it's the big turnstile was

745
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: like the full body bar one and apparently there's a

746
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: student who started going in the opposite direction and the

747
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: bars weren't moving because there's only one that like you

748
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: push and you go through the open hole, but the

749
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: other side is just bar bar bar bar bar. So

750
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: she like gets to the bars is noticing it's not moving,

751
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: starts sticking her arms through it to try and see

752
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: if she can like somehow finago getting in. You're talking

753
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: about the fixed side of a rotating underneath the other

754
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: metal bars, Yes, exactly. She and he like he's like

755
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: watching her, and he goes, excuse me other side and

756
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: she like but he was like she full on committed,

757
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: like had gotten like one full arm like trying to

758
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: get through. Yeah, that sounds like me when I'm too

759
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: high though first to be fair, like just like coming

760
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: to a thing being laser focused on, like, okay, there

761
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: must be some trip, right, and I think it's like

762
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: that laser focus, that commitment, but like and Ralph even

763
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: says that he's like, you know, she might just cure

764
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: cancer with that level of energy. It's just like didn't

765
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: didn't translate into like everyday things were just like yeah,

766
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: the little things in which, like they would often say,

767
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: it's like they'd often get a student who would be

768
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: like what what like do not know who I am?

769
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: Do not know who my parents are? Rather than just

770
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: being like, what's the logical thing that's happening right now?

771
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: And like are there people really actually trying to make

772
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: my day harder? Versus being like do you know how

773
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: many packages do we get? And how we have to

774
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: do this legally because to tamper with someone else's male

775
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: is actually like punishable in our law. So all of

776
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: these like different factors. And also just because like honestly,

777
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: they made like the package center home for so many

778
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: of us, and like a lot of us didn't know

779
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: about each other, like the students that actually like felt

780
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: really connected to this group of people, and like the

781
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: more I talked to Ralph and Louis, they would always

782
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, yeah, this person stopped by, and

783
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I was like, there's other people like one that's awesome,

784
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: but also like crazy that it's it's not really a

785
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: known or commonplace thing of like oh we all just

786
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: hang out together, like if you work here, if you

787
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: go here, we all hang out. And that there isn't

788
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: this like marked difference, uh came into play. And I

789
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: think for me, like there were a lot of great

790
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: students there, Like don't get me wrong, professors, students. There

791
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: were a lot of incredible people, but you are met

792
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: with a lot of different kinds of people and people

793
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, doing your own stuff or doing

794
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: things that like even like they're so I'm trying to

795
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: like think of specific examples, like, for example, like laundry

796
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: for a kids for kids, like a lot of them

797
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: would outsource it, either have someone who their family hired,

798
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: or they would get a service to do that. A

799
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: lot of people who had tutors even throughout college, where

800
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this person helps me perfect my papers

801
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: and you're just like what, um Like yeah, yeah, and

802
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: you'd be like oh, and you're already so brilliant in

803
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: my brain. Like there was a level of just like

804
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: understanding and how the world worked. And also I met

805
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: people firsthand where they were like up front and ruthless

806
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: about like I want to make money and that is

807
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: the only thing I want to do in life, and

808
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: like the way they related to other people was actually

809
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: very much through that lens only, and that was very

810
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: different than when I from So for me, experiencing that

811
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: wide range of humanity was fascinating, and then to hear

812
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: it firsthand from people who were workers at that school,

813
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 1: like it was really interesting, and especially because they are

814
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: really great people. They are really wonderful. He talks about

815
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: how he like wasn't being paid over time, but he

816
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: stayed up and like did overnights at the package center

817
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: because it was at a time when like the books

818
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: were being distributed, and like he was like, well, these

819
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: students need their books. And just like he has this

820
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: in addition to just sounding like the most fun person.

821
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, if you're around me, like you're gonna

822
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: have fun, I'm I can't help it, Like that's just

823
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But also just like so firmly aware

824
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: of the social contract contract that we're all supposed to

825
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: uphold to like one another, and he holds himself to

826
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: a high standard when it comes to helping people. And

827
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: that that was another place where you I went to

828
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: school around a lot of people who like went right

829
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: into finance, and you know, some good, really nice, good

830
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: people who went into finance, and then a lot of

831
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: like shitty people who who went right into finance. But

832
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: like the just more and more we're seeing with those

833
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of higher ruling classes, like the more Panama papers leak,

834
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: the more we learned that they're not holding themselves to

835
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: like any environmental standards. When you know, the energy companies

836
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: have known, the oil companies have known about climate change

837
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: since before anyone, like they're not holding themselves to a

838
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: standard that upholds the social contract to not just egregiously

839
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: violate other people's human rights. Like that that felt like

840
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: it was like really on display in a in a

841
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: powerful way in your show. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, I mean

842
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: that is partially why I wanted this show to exist,

843
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: is just some of the people who hold that contract

844
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: the most are people who are, like to me, like

845
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: working class folks or or folks who are struggling, because

846
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: like it's very community based and and also it's a

847
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: practice of every day and I think like sometimes as

848
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: you climb the ladder, like there's this this like I

849
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: don't have to uphold it today, or like if I don't,

850
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: if I don't do what this person is asking me

851
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: to do, like then I lose everything I've been trying

852
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: to build. And you're like, but how much are you

853
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: actually losing versus the idea in your head of what

854
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: you're losing? And then you become then then you allow

855
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: that to continue slipping, slipping, slipping, And then there's also

856
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: people who are just like straight up villainous in this world.

857
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: And I think to me too, with with seeing how

858
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: like those levels operate, sometimes I I just want to

859
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: continue connecting people to each other and being like you're

860
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: actually not that different, or you are very different, but

861
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you can maintain love and compassion and also like heck, yeah,

862
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: I have your back, like I want to have your back.

863
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: And guess what, actually, if we do understand each other better,

864
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: if we do connect, we can be like be against

865
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: all odds and change something we're seeing it Like to me,

866
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: we're seeing it with the rise of unions again and

867
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: and the labor movement and like being able to connect

868
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: back to that and being like, yeah, like we we

869
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: can like believe in the best of people, especially like

870
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: people who are actually like proving themselves to be working

871
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: towards that on an everyday basis. Right, I do think

872
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: it's underrated how thoroughly the culture what as you said,

873
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: as you like climb the ladder, the more you see

874
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: a culture that is just completely divorced from any consideration

875
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: of the social contract, Like I think I think that's

876
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: something people will be continue to be shocked by, Like

877
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, you see it with the Panama papers and

878
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: things like that. But you know that, I'm so glad

879
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: your podcast exists to kind of have that come out,

880
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: you know more and more as as you interview some

881
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: of these voices, yeah, aren't heard where So the first

882
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: two episodes where kind of take take place inside the

883
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: package center. Where where are you taking it from here?

884
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: So actually, what's actually going to be really interesting in

885
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: conversation to this conversation to see is my third episode

886
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: is specifically talking to someone who has worked in household

887
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: staffing for the wealthy of New York City, and like,

888
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: so there's some really crazy stories in it and also

889
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: the complicated conversation of like my podcast is a short

890
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: on the shorter side right now, and eventually, you know,

891
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: we'd love to continue it to make it like our

892
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: long further because like it's such an interesting conversation to

893
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: be like, there are people who walk into these homes

894
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: and don't have any protection whatsoever, and depending on your

895
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: your class, your immigration status, your education, all of these

896
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: things like factor into how you're treated at times, and

897
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: that yeah, there are really good people out there, there

898
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: are for sure, But like what's really complicated is like

899
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: when you start to see the grays of and then

900
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: the really the really dark parts of it, where you're like,

901
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that there are good people if someone

902
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: can be treated this way when they walk into a

903
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: home and on the day to day where like they're

904
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: not being treated well, let alone paid well or anything

905
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: like that, like what are we doing? So there's that,

906
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: but then also being like there's a lot of an

907
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: interesting sense of entitlement that can happen even to good

908
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: people or decent people, where it's like, because I've earned this,

909
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: I deserve to be automatically like treated a certain way

910
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: or like get all the perks of what I want,

911
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: versus being like, no, if I'm contracting you, even for

912
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: like domestic work, this is a partnership. This is an

913
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: employee employer thing, and it has to be laid out

914
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: and if there's like unsaid or like changing boundaries, like

915
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: that's not okay. And I think sometimes people in positions

916
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: of more power in those situations don't always see the

917
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: full range of like oh wait, let me think about

918
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: what this means for this person's life. So we talked

919
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: about that, and then I also talked to undocumented Ground

920
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: zero cleanup crew workers and their experience along with like

921
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: what they they like look forward to in life and

922
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: how they like think about this country. And then I

923
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: also talked to like a woman who stutters. So like

924
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: the podcast is mostly centered around working people, but it

925
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: is also like taking in like to consideration people who

926
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: have been mothered in society, no matter what that looks like.

927
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: And so I talked to this woman who stutters. In

928
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: one percent of the population globally stutters, and there's actually

929
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: no difference among different ethnicities or races. It's actually within gender,

930
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: and so it's very rare to be a woman who stutters.

931
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: And so I talked to her about what it's like

932
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: to be perceived a stupid or like someone who doesn't

933
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: like deserve the time of day too to have a

934
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: full conversation with or get to know and so, and

935
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: what that's like growing up even and having that experience,

936
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: so we like do a whole variety. And then like,

937
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: my brother also married into a white working class family,

938
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: And so I sit down with my sister in law's sister,

939
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: who I like, I knew very little about, and was like, Hey,

940
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: can I talk to you about your life because my

941
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: perception of your group of people is very different in

942
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: your perception my group of people might actually be very

943
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: different as well. So like a Mexican and a white

944
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: working class like very much Allah new York Times for

945
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: the New York Times. Yeah right, I let him know

946
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: be like, guess what the conversation is earth shattering for

947
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: that New York Times piece? What like, what's the reaction

948
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: to people? Because you know, you also mentioned a lot

949
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: of these people, these workers. It's like the first time

950
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: anyone's bothered to interview them. Yes, that anyone has bothered

951
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: to say, no, no, no, the story is about you.

952
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: The story is about your lived experience. You don't have

953
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: to like sugarcoat anything. We want to talk very you know,

954
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: honestly about your life. What is that? What's the reaction

955
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: from people like when you ask them to do that

956
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: or on the other side of an interview, like what

957
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: kind of what? What? What? What's the sensation for everybody involved?

958
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: It's there's a lot of different perspectives or like feelings involved.

959
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Like my sister in law's sister was like, no, no, no, no,

960
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: don't interview me, like I have nothing, I'm not interesting,

961
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: Like I have no interesting stories. And yet you hear

962
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: her life stories and you're like, what the heck? You

963
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: are fascinating incredible, And then like even Ralph was like,

964
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll do it for you because you're asking me,

965
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: but like, you know, like it's totally chill. And then

966
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: he actually was listening to his episode and was told

967
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: me he was like, I had to stop, and I

968
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: want to finish the episode, but it's taking me a while.

969
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't have to, but like,

970
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: also can I ask why? And He's like, I just

971
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: never really saw myself from the outside because no one's

972
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: been interested in this way and I and I like,

973
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see how this is a good guy,

974
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: but like I also feel so strange to be in

975
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: this position of like, wow, I can admire myself. Yeah,

976
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: there's some things that come up throughout the first couple

977
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: episodes that feel like like almost internalized invisibility. Yeah, yes, yeah,

978
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: that's being reflected back to you know, workers, especially people

979
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: of colors, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, more on that, like

980
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, exact very hard to like break out of

981
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: that too, even embrace the fact that you are worthy

982
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: or that like you know, like to Like Ralph's point

983
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: is like I've never even given myself the grace to

984
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: put like observe myself and understand that I'm a good

985
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: person and even despite the terrible inequality, like it's the

986
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: people that are on the other side of the scale

987
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: that are working the hardest to uphold some semblance of fairness.

988
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's like right, wild, yeah, And that's

989
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: the thing that's like so like my heart always feels

990
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: and like makes me want to do this work more

991
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: in also wants me like I just want more stories

992
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: like this to be out there, because I'm like, yeah,

993
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: the way he upholds fairness and kindness and respect in

994
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: his own life is much more than most people give

995
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: him and more than he's given himself sometimes and even

996
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: just being like you talked about like we mentioned how

997
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: he's like, oh my gosh, I didn't even know this existed.

998
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: I remember when I was like, oh, you have to

999
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: you like art, you need to go to the Met,

1000
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: like it's free for New Yorkers, like go to the Met,

1001
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: take your family to the Met. And he's like, okay, sure, sure, Sure,

1002
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: he goes to Met. He's like it's gorgeous, Like what

1003
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: the heck, it's amazing, And I was like, why don't

1004
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: you go before? And he's like I didn't think it

1005
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: was meant for me, And just like that level of

1006
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: like here's a man who is interested in art, but

1007
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: because of the background he comes from, feels like he's

1008
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: not allowed to enjoy in the same way, or like

1009
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: it's not as common to hear like, hey, you know,

1010
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: it is free for New Yorkers, so like go check

1011
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: it out if you can, and like just kind of

1012
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: working through that with them, or even hearing about like

1013
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: louis being really conservative about his hopes and dreams of

1014
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, I'm working on my real estate

1015
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: license and just being like sometimes also working class people

1016
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 1: they feel like I think, like dreaming is not necessarily

1017
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: something they can do or should do. Yeah, and yet

1018
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: like they deserve in my brain, like I'm like everyone

1019
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: deserves to dream. Yeah, you come from such an interesting background,

1020
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: and like your mom worked as a domestic worker and

1021
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: like paid under the table, and like she did that

1022
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: to get your dad to a position where he could

1023
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: be a professor. Yeah, yeah, and it's it's kind of

1024
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: really incredible and to have seen that and grown up

1025
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: with that, Like I grew up going to people's houses

1026
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: and doing my homework while my mom cooked and cleaned

1027
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: and organized, and like I grew up bartering for all

1028
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: the things I did in my activities and stuff like

1029
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: that until like we got more comfortable, and even then

1030
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: like because we do have family in Mexico, and unfortunately

1031
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: the economic situation in Mexico Co has never been amazing,

1032
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: Like my family's has always sent money back, so are

1033
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: when we got comfortable, we we had people still relying

1034
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: on us. So the way I've gotten to see it

1035
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: is very different. And then but still getting to grow

1036
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: up around like education being important. It was my parents

1037
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: way out, Like my mom backed my dad for his

1038
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: education to try and ensure a better life for their family,

1039
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: and so like being aware of that too and and

1040
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: understanding what a privilege that is. And then also getting

1041
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: to hang out with all different kinds of people, like

1042
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: I hung out with my dad's brad students, I hung

1043
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: out with with like workers my mom knew. I hung

1044
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: out with, like the restaurant workers in the Twin Cities,

1045
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: Like I hung out with like a bunch of different

1046
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: people because I also do and did theater and opera

1047
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: like so it's like a strange little child who was

1048
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: running around in different communities and was very like grateful

1049
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: to both be like accepted and not accepted in any

1050
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: of them. So being in that like weird in between

1051
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: space I think allowed me a lot of like access

1052
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: to worlds and feelings and perceptions and queuing into what

1053
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: was going on in different ways. And then also we

1054
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: moved a lot, so like experiencing that in Upstate New York,

1055
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: the Twin Cities, then New York City, and then now

1056
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: getting to experience what it's like to be in the

1057
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: South have all been like really really incredible and fairy shaping,

1058
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: and also reminds me of like how much stereotypes we

1059
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: have out there, and some of them are like fun whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I'll even say it, like I'm super Mexican,

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Speaker 1: Like I freaking have four kinds of dachin in my

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Speaker 1: house at all times, like I do carry hot sauce

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: in my back, Like like I know that I can

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01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: be a walking stereotype in that way, but like how

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: much of it is wrong? Like like how much? So much?

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Speaker 1: It was my favorite it's still my favorite thing. Ever,

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: Like when I went to go see Waconda Forever, I

1068
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: had like the you know, there's like I had Lucas

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: and then I also had like there's like now a

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01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: whole bunch of assortments of it. So I had like

1071
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: cucumber covered dahin gummies. WHOA, So it's like that's my

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: preferred things. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like for sure, like yeah,

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: but also like you know, being in the South and

1074
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: being like damn, there's some really cool people here, and

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01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: then there's some people who are like just like in

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: desperate situations and desperately ignored. Right, it seems like the

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: one universal thing, Yeah, you know, no matter where we go,

1078
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: like that's one constant is that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who are trying to uphold this sense of

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: fairness in a system that has absolutely discarded them. Yeah,

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: it's like the kind of really beautiful cruel irony of

1082
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 1: a lot of like these like hearing from these people too.

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: And there are two points, like two things that I

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: thought were like like straight wisdom from that first episode.

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: One was when Ralph was saying he doesn't understand why

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: people like if you're going to toil, like why spend

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: your whole week just looking forward to these two days

1088
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: where you aren't putting yourself through something when if there

1089
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: is a way to make it work for yourself or

1090
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: try and enjoy yourself, then try that or at least

1091
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: pursue something like that and then which was like wild

1092
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: too because I've been in any jobs too. I'm like, man,

1093
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: just get to fucking Friday, please, I want to do this.

1094
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: And that was also like some of the hardest ship

1095
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: like like in my life in terms of like I'm

1096
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: just being so deeply unsatisfied. And then the other was

1097
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: also I think your grandfather telling your father that do

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: take a job that stimulates your mind, that you use

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: your mind and not just your hands and things like that,

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's such a like It's like those

1101
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: are like those little things you grow up hearing as

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: a child that set you on a path. And I

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01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: think when I heard that, I was like, wow, that's

1104
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: such a like such a great thing to be saying

1105
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: to somebody like when they're young or looking to what

1106
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: direction they want to move in? Right, Yeah, And uh

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01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: that when I found that out for my father, I

1108
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: learned it young to like from him, and I like

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01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: knew like it was a big thing because I've I've

1110
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: grown up with my my grandfather's story, like he was

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: put in an orphanage at a young age, like didn't

1112
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Speaker 1: get to finish grade school, like he was taken out

1113
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: at fourth grade, and like ended up working a lot

1114
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: of manual labor jobs, but also tried to make a

1115
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: lot of businesses work. Like he was a milkman, he

1116
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: worked on a farm. He even like did some illegal

1117
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: running across the borders, like like he was trying desperately

1118
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: to like figure things out, and was also a man

1119
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: who always loved information, Like he taught himself English and

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: would read sci fi books in English even though he

1121
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: never finished past the fourth grade. Like to me, it

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: was like really moving to hear those stories and then

1123
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: to like also connect that to like, yeah, like my

1124
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: grandfather had the same attitude Ralph has, Like my grandfather

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01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: would be like I'm going to tell myself, isn't this great?

1126
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: I like this and then find the ways to figure

1127
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: it out and make it not just bearable but livable

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: while I'm doing it if I'm required to do it,

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01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: And that like mentality is like holy cow, Like that

1130
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: takes an incredible mind, an incredible spirit, and like such

1131
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: grit to like figure out like being like this, if

1132
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: this is what I got, what do I need to do? Right?

1133
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: Especially when increasingly, like you know, we're at that point

1134
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: now where we need more people to like advocate for

1135
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: a kind of life where people can work and not

1136
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: have to think this is torture. At the very least,

1137
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: I can support myself for my family with it too,

1138
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Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, I think the ultimate

1139
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: thing you probably want people to come away with when

1140
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: you hear these stories too, is understanding, like the how

1141
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: connected we all are and how much we how much

1142
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: we owe each other in this process. People, people we

1143
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: interact with day to day in their various roles aren't

1144
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: just fucking NPCs in a fucking video game. Like, everyone

1145
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: has their own life and is trying to go through

1146
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: in the same way, and to not extend that respect

1147
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: or humility to them, it's just going to happen, you know,

1148
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: at our own detriment. So yeah, encourage everybody to listen

1149
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: to show because it's really fantastic. Yeah, it's when You're

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Speaker 1: Invisible on the Michael Tura Network and it's very good.

1151
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Speaker 1: Go check it out. Thank you so much for joining us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great having you. All Right, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the

1154
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Speaker 1: show if you like to show Uh means the world

1155
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Speaker 1: to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're

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Speaker 1: having a great weekend and I will talk to him Monday.

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Speaker 1: By ups