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Speaker 1: As I record this podcast, the NFL Draft is ninety

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Speaker 1: eight days away. Will the Bengals select Oregon offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: pinay Sewell? Should they select pinay Sewell? I discussed that

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Speaker 1: and more with the NFL draft analyst Tony Pauline Tony.

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Speaker 1: For months, Bengals fans have been lusting after Oregon offensive

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Speaker 1: He's a real good left tackle prospect, very athletic, flew

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Speaker 1: first couple of years you played at Oregon, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: missed opportunity. I don't think listen to the remark was

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Speaker 1: You released your new big board this week of more

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Speaker 1: of sense. Tony, Let's stick with wide receiver. Last year's

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Speaker 1: podcast Network. The Bengals need defensive line help just as

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Speaker 1: probably say golf sounds like you play. I do. I

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Speaker 1: working on it. Is he the chap? Is he the

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably the guy that everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: any hidden talents? I don't know that they're hidden talents.

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Speaker 1: of his offseason projects is to learn to juggle, and

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Speaker 1: I told him I could probably teach him how to

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Speaker 1: hidden talent. Other than that, I don't really I don't

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Speaker 1: team jugglers. I don't know if you're aware that he

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Speaker 1: has that skill. He's got the juggling skill. I didn't

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Speaker 1: I guess it is a more of a hidden talent

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Speaker 1: What has been your most extravagant purchase. I've done a

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Speaker 1: would have to say, just last Christmas, I think I

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Speaker 1: getting that I probably spent in my career so far

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Speaker 1: a lot of dough in a small box. Uh. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know those things are expensive, all right. If you

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Speaker 1: would that person be? That is hard. I probably have

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Speaker 1: really cool thing, just to say that you've shook hands

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Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan. You met Michael Jordan. I think is

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Speaker 1: a really cool thing. I'd love to play some golf

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. You'd have to play for big money based

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Speaker 1: on everything everybot about him at the golf course. I

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Speaker 1: better bring some people with me to put it all right.

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Speaker 1: You are off the hot seat. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck in the final game of the year,

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Speaker 1: and I have a great offseason. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: The final game didn't work out so well, but Brandon

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Speaker 1: Allen was outstanding the week before at Houston and it'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see if he resigns with the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in the off season or if the team pursues another

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Speaker 1: veteran quarterback to back up Joe Burrow. That's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast,

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