WEBVTT - 2016 Predictions Report Card 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.160 Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:15.560 stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:19.000 I am your host, Jonathan Strickland, and we are now 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.560 going to do my second favorite episode of any given year, 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.479 the follow up from the previous year's predictions. As many 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.839 of my long time listeners know, like many other tech podcasts, 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.720 I take it upon myself to usually grab a hapless 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.639 guest to join me in the studio and make predictions 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.479 about what will happen over the following twelve months. That 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.960 is my quote unquote favorite episode of the year, and 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.000 my second favorite is when we revisited a year later 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.880 and see how he did. So. Last year I had 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.040 I as actar joined me on the show, and this 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.279 year for the results, I have I as actar on 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.800 one of the show. Hey, heyes, how are you. I'm good. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.400 I'm hoping I'm less hapless than last year. Yeah, I know. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.800 I think we both got happed a couple of times 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.800 throughout that year, so we'll handle it. We were not 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:14.119 not quite too happy, but we're working toward it. Right. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.839 That's some good feedbacks. Almost haptic, Yes, it is almost haptic. Yeah, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.920 you can really sense it. So what we're you gonna 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:23.480 do today is we're gonna go through the predictions we 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.880 made last year. We've both gone back and listened to 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:31.200 that episode, written down some notes, kind of evaluated how 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.759 far or close we were when you know, when reality unfolded. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.440 Did we get it right, were we wrong? Somewhere in between, 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.240 and it kind of spans the whole spectrum. So one 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.880 of the things I said at the very beginning of 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.200 last year's episode was that I was determined to make 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.400 bolder predictions because I had discovered that it didn't matter 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.400 if I made more modest predictions. My accuracy was still 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.840 pretty awful. So if you're gonna make awful predictions, at 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.520 least make big awful predictions right that no one's impressed 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.399 if you make a modest prediction and that's wrong, it's 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.520 just that's that's kind of boring. So the first one 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.040 I made was that in twenty sixteen, the year that 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.560 is now coming to a close, Microsoft would buy Yahoo's 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.320 core business. And I, as you, actually had a slightly 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.640 different take on it. You thought that perhaps there'd be 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:31.639 some wireless carrier, or maybe um Apple or possibly Facebook 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.280 buying Yah whose core business. As it turns out the 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:39.480 wireless carrier was the best of the predictions because, as 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.200 we know, Microsoft didn't buy all whose core business, nor 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:48.120 Apple nor Facebook. Instead, it was Verizon only four point 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.600 eight three billion dollars on the deal. Now, I know 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.320 that the right after the news of that can that 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.320 news of the Yahoo hack that I don't know how 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.520 many was like half a billion people or accounts were compromised, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.600 something crazy, you like that. Yeah, Verizon is kind of 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.760 cautiously going forward. I've read recently that the head of 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.520 a O L. Sorry sorry, well YEAHOO was concerned that 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:17.360 this will go cautiously optimistically. Let's use as many adverbs 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.440 as we possibly can. Now, Verizon did acquire A O 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.480 L in twenty fIF so Verizon has been kind of 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.200 on a tear recently. UM and a lot of people 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.280 are kind of curious to see what happens with whose 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.640 core business going on in the future. And I'm pretty 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:34.960 sure at this point I'm gonna have to do a 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.200 full episode about Verizon. UM. And then we came to 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.480 I ass first prediction, Oh yeah, that three D printers 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.920 would go much more mainstream, and the idea was there's 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.160 a lot more three D scanning technology there was a 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.680 bunch of the phones out there now that have like 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.080 three D scanning. But Jonathan, you disagree with me on 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.960 three D printing going mainstream, and not because the de potential, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.560 because the technology just wasn't ready yet, right, Yeah, it 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.600 just was. It was still at level where unless you 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.160 have a lot of patients and uh you don't mind 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:09.120 babysitting the technology for quite some time, you're not likely 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:13.640 to have very, um, very satisfying results. It's it's very 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.760 easy to create a bad three D print job, right, 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.160 So take take like the most finicky printer you've ever 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.520 had any experience with, and then imagine that it has 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.520 to print in three dimensions, not just in two, and 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.320 you realize, yeah, this is, um this is a recipe 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.159 for potential disaster. And in fact, that's kind of how 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.600 I've that's been my experience with three D printers. So 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.919 we wanted to take a look like, did three D 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.920 printers really take off in steen did they become or 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.840 at least did we see you know, a good solid 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.920 improvement in in market adoption? Um and and really it 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.280 just kind of it did continue to grow. It's not 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.160 like it's not like it stopped growing. It didn't the 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.279 rate of growth didn't increase, but it's still chugging along 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.880 pretty healthily. So, UM, I guess it's a partial one 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.359 for you. I as I think, I mean more mainstream 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.240 doesn't mean that it's doing well, but i'd say very 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.920 small partial here. I'm not gonna even give myself a 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.120 lot of credit for this one. It's doing better than 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.599 it was at the beginning of the year and the 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.400 compared to the beginning of the year, but it's still 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.120 still not mainstream by any stretching the imagination. Yeah, and 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.279 in fact, later on in the episode you did clarify 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.400 you said that you weren't really thinking about it being 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.840 a three D printer on everybody's desk by the end 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.320 of twenty six. You were saying that you expected to 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.240 see that trend continue, and uh, and in fact, that's 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.680 exactly what has happened. There's no dramatic changes. It's not like, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.440 as far as I know, I didn't hear about any 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.600 massive drive to buy a bunch of three D printers 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.880 during the holiday sales, for example. UM, I think in 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.000 large part it's one of those things that people who 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.440 are interested in the field are still going out and 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.640 you know, looking at the different models that are out 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.599 there and trying to decide which one is best for them. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.960 It has not really penetrated your average consumer's mind as 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.839 this is um must have item. But I think I 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.080 think you were more right than wrong. My next prediction 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.239 was that Apple, now that we're getting further and further 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:25.839 removed from Steve Jobs as Apple company, that Apple was 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.400 going to start offering up more products that would seem 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.720 like they were not as directly influenced by Steve Jobs. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.080 I realized now in retrospect that that is an incredibly 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:40.520 difficult prediction to to judge whether or not I was right, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.320 because without knowing, without having Steve Jobs here to say, hey, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.920 would you do that, it's it's kind of um impossible 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.520 to answer unless you just see something that just looks 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.160 like welcome to the Apple cinder block, Like then you say, okay, no, 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.559 that Steve Jobs would not come out with a cinder block, 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.400 And I don't know about that one. Maybe the only 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.240 the only thing for sure we could tell if there 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.120 was no h clones, you know, mac clones out there, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.480 that's definitely something that was anti Jobs at the time. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.280 When we came back to Apple, he killed that off. So, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.880 I mean, without looking backwards, I don't know how we 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.600 would ever tell, but I'm pretty sure we have a 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.760 decent catalog of things that Apple could have done that 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.600 Steve Jobs didn't like. Yeah, I mean in the last 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:26.960 year episode we mentioned the pencil stylist device that had 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:31.280 been introduced in in late and how that was something 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.720 that that Steve Jobs had kind of ridiculed at one 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.640 point back when a stylus was the only way to 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.400 interact with some handheld devices, and he said, no, one 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.320 wants that, and I, as you pointed out, well, the 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.440 Apple solution is that it's it's a an additional peripheral. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.000 It's not necessary to interact with the device, but it's 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.360 an additional way to interact with the device, which is 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.600 a slight distinction. UM. Not sure how Steve Jobs would 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:03.960 have felt about abandoning the lightning ports on MacBook pros 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.800 where they switched from Lightning to USBC or the idea. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.960 I'm pretty sure he would have been down with the 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.800 idea of getting rid of the headphone jack. I don't 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.160 see Steve Jobs as saying no, that's something we absolutely 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.160 have to keep. Um. I think for the that that's 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.640 referring to the iPhone. The new iPhones don't have the 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.000 headphone jacks, they just have the lightning connector. It does 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.840 make it weird if you have a MacBook Pro and 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:30.880 an iPhone that you can't use a simple cable between 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.319 the two to charge your iPhone while your MacBook Pro 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:39.480 is running. But um, I don't think I don't think 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.600 any of those were big warning flags, saying Steve Jobs 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:46.400 would absolutely not want this to happen, but potentially save 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.079 you hundreds and thousands of emails. And you said Apple 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.160 moving away from lightning to USBC, did you mean the 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.040 Thunderbolt ports. That's why I meant Thunderbolt pot. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.720 because Thunderbolt is built into the new versions of these 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.480 USBC style receptacles. It's such a weird thing that's actually 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.360 in the MacBook Pro right now that I don't really 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.960 have a great way to explain, and maybe you could. 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.600 It's like it's a Thunderbolt enabled USB sorry, Thunderbolt three 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:15.360 enabled us B C input. It's a very strange name. Yeah. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.560 I think moving towards standard things is within the realm 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.520 of Jobs. The idea of simply going, okay, this is 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.280 the future we don't care. We're making were drawing in 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.199 the line right now. I think it looks a lot 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.080 like the way the MacBook Air was set up in 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.319 the first place, with its original one USB port that 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:34.319 grew a little bit. Same thing with the MacBook pros 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.840 um the headphone jack removal. Yeah, I would I could 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.520 believe that happening. Maybe, although Jobs really did like music, 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.040 I don't know if he would want you to listen 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.080 to bluetooth headphones, be honest. Yeah, I mean it's a 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.480 good point. I mean, well, the fact that you're already 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.640 listening on an Apple device and you're likely listening to 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.840 some form of compressed music. I think you could be 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.440 listening to uncompressed music files, but I don't know. Yeah, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.480 it's it does seem like it would be another step 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.720 further away from that that that experience that truly defined 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.400 the or redefined Apple. I mean, the iPod, I would argue, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.800 was the product that brought Apple truly to the forefront 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.320 of the technology world again, and the iPhones cemented their 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.880 place once once it came out that uh, you know, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.880 when Steve Jobs came back to the company and he 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:32.240 began to revitalize the Mac platform uh, the iPod was 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.880 really the device that kind of got the tech world's 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.520 attention and said, oh wow, Apple's doing stuff again. Uh. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.000 So to to make that step where you are saying, oh, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.240 you know, bluetooth headphones are fine, that does seem a 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.000 little weird. But I can't really say this is a 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.480 win or a loss. And it's largely because again at 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.199 the very beginning, as I said, it's hard to judge 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.320 how well I did without having the authority there too 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.840 a d so that in retrospect it was a bad 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.800 prediction just because there's it's hard to judge if it 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.000 was correct or not unless again, there was something that 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:13.280 was just wildly elt of character for Apple. I predict 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.400 you will not be making predictions like that for your 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.439 next show. I certainly hope I won't. Alright, So my 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.160 my nex prediction was about wearables. Wearables will be better 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.959 with follow ups to the earlier smart watches, and Activity 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.160 Tracker was supposed to be the year we're gonna see 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.880 refined approaches. And I'm laughing at reading my own note 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.120 here there will be a compelling reason to own a 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.800 smart watch. Um. Reality, No, that didn't happen. There's currently 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.240 no true compelling reason that anyone needs a smart watches. 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.760 That's my own opinion. I saw a report on the 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.280 day of recording. List I d C just released a 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:55.840 wearables market report and they said basic wearables, primarily composed 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:00.000 of fitness bands, accounted for of the market and experience. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.480 It's double digit growth now, by the way, year over 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:07.200 year growth the third quarter between compared to three point 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.800 one percent, So not a huge growth in the wearables 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:15.120 which includes smart watches and and uh fitness devices. So 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.640 Google basically sat out when it came to Android where 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.840 they're like, yeah, we're gonna show a new one. Here 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.640 it is, and we're gonna release it. Seen, they backed 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.760 off very hard. Apple basically said we screwed up. They 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.320 redefine their their watch with Watch OS three. It's it's 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.920 really not even close. Um, I don't see smart watches everywhere. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.480 Do you see smart watches everywhere where you are? Uh? No, 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.120 I do not. I mean I'm wearing a pebble right now. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.160 But some people would argue that pebble doesn't really like 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.760 some some would say pebble almost doesn't fit the definition 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.520 of a smart watch because it has limited interactive abilities 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.840 and you know, you've got the monochromatic screen. And but 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.760 that's all I want it because it gives me notifications 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.720 and I don't ignore of them. I don't or I 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:05.120 don't miss them. Uh So specifically when someone's calling me, 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.920 I don't miss those calls anymore because when I'm walking 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.520 I walked to and from home and work, when I'm 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.120 walking off, and don't feel my phone vibrating if someone 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.839 calls me, but I feel my risk vibrating. So that's 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.400 you know, that's why I have one. But that's the 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.040 that's the only compelling reason is really because otherwise I 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.719 miss phone calls and my wife gets mad at me. Um, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:33.120 my wife hasn't I watch. She's gonna Apple watch, and 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.679 I mean she likes it just fine. But yeah, I 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.280 don't see him everywhere. There's like maybe one other person 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:43.280 in this office who has one, and that's it. So yeah, 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.880 I'm not seeing an explosion and adoption right now. Wearables 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.600 are one of those things where I think the potential 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:57.560 is there. No one has created the killer, the killer 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.880 product that people absolutely must go out and purchase, and 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.400 so it remains this kind of promised land that no 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.600 one's been able to tap into. I'm sure as we 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.040 record this, I as and I are both in our 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.520 own individual ways preparing for the apocalypse known as c 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.800 e S, which will take place at the very beginning 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.200 of January. And we both know wearables will yet again 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:29.360 be an enormous story there because it's it's it's an 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.000 area of potential growth, and whenever those exist within the 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:37.160 world of electronics, you're gonna see endless examples of it. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.160 On the CEOs show floor. The question is, well, we 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.760 see one that's so interesting and so different from the 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.160 other thousands of products that we've already seen that we 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.640 will be convinced, yes, this is the one that is 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.680 going to redefine the market. I'm not convinced yet. There's 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.560 plenty of good products out there, activity trackers and smart watches, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.680 but nothing that I would sit there and say like, oh, well, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.360 you absolutely have to go out and get one of these. Yeah. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.400 I don't bold prediction. No, we're not gonna see anything 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.680 that's going to change the wearables market sees in a 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.880 couple of weeks. Um. But I just if Apple couldn't 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.320 figure it out, and Samsung's they got their great approach 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.680 where they try everything, they iterate and they iterate, and 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.400 they iterate. Eventually they get it right. It might be 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.320 another couple of years. I really thought I thought sixteen 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:29.920 was the year because the the the idea was already presented. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.880 People were getting used to the idea of having more 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.280 than one device maybe, and there were major companies behind it, 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:39.840 but the execution just wasn't here this year. In I 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.960 don't see it happening in the next few weeks. Maybe 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.960 long shot, you know, December twenty six of next year, seventeen, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.960 somebody figures it out, but it won't be public until. Yeah. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.720 I remember I mentioned that if you were to pair 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:58.000 wearables with a r you could have some really interesting 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.400 applications and respect and we'll talk more about VR in 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.880 just a short moment. But I agree with you. I 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.120 think I think. I think we're gonna see plenty of examples. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.520 I think they're going to be lots of products to 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.640 choose from. But I don't I don't see any breakaways 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.120 yet on the horizon. But maybe we'll we'll be proven wrong. 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.320 We're willing to have that happen. At the point being tway, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:34.680 sixteen definitely wasn't the wearable year. Uh My next prediction 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.080 was that Apple would make a move to acquire Tesla, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.600 although Tesla might not agree to Apple's terms, and the 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.320 reality is, whoo, maybe we don't know if that happened. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.600 We do know that uh, Tesla got shareholder approval to 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.680 acquire or actually to merge with another company called solar City, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:59.640 which was founded coincidentally not coincidentally by Elon Musk's cousins, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.760 and he was the chairman of solar City. Uh So 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.520 Tesla and solar City are merging together. But uh, we 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.600 do also know that Apple held some discussions with the 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.240 executive team over at Tesla. But Musk was very careful 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.159 to say like he could not comment on what the 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.280 nature of those conversations was all about, because you know, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.440 that's that's confidential stuff. Uh. But a lot of reporters 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.560 kept on asking does this mean that there have been 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.560 talks of acquisition between Apple and Tesla? And he says, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.040 I even if there were, I couldn't comment on it. 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.679 So it's useless to ask me those questions. So we 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:40.640 don't know if Apple had made a move. It's possible 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.959 to Apple at least express some interest, but there's no 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.560 way to confirm that one way or the other um 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:48.840 and in the episode, I as you mentioned that there 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.439 was a possibility that Apple would invest in Tesla, but 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.639 not try to acquire it, and so, in other words, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.440 there would be some sort of corporate investment on Apple's part, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.560 perhaps even having some bars of Apple joined the board 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.600 of directors over at Tesla. But as far as I know, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.560 that has not yet happened either. We do know that 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:13.200 Apple is definitely interested in developing autonomous car programs. Are 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.160 very recently apples director of Product Integrity, Steve Kenner, wrote 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:22.280 to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to advocate for 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:28.159 better rules and regulations specifically for autonomous vehicles, whether that is, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.119 you know, to expressly allow autonomous vehicles to be on 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.439 the road, or to create the infrastructure necessary to have 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:39.080 have those rules so that when weird things happen, we 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.159 actually have law to point to and say, well, this 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.960 is what we do in this case. But Apple itself 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.880 as a company has not come out and said what 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.480 they are planning on doing or what sort of timeline 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.879 they're looking at. We just know that they're interested in 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.520 autonomous cars, not when they might pull the trigger and 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:01.560 jump into the game. Based on the last things you 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.840 were talking about if Apple did buy a pre existing 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.120 car company, that would be a non jobs move back 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.320 to your other prediction. Uh, if Apple actually announced ahead 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.000 of time in we're gonna have a self driving car, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.199 that would also be not jobs in in that kind 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.280 of way now that I think about it. But yeah, 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.639 the the idea that Apple and Tesla were gonna work together, 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.160 I like that idea. They seem like they're a natural fit. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.280 But I've seen enough, I've read enough in the press 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:29.040 that seems like there's a bit of animosity between the 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.560 two companies. Yeah, I know that Elon Musk says some 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.639 derogatory things about some of the engineers that end up 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.680 at Apple. They're they're the they're the ones who get 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.920 rejected from Tesla. So yeah, there's been there's been some 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.240 like sniping back and forth. And I know that there's 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.400 been like whenever you look into the news stories, you'll 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.280 hear about people defecting from one company and going to 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.560 the other, and there's always some sort of snarky comment 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.120 about that. So yeah, I think there's definitely some some 0:19:56.480 --> 0:20:02.280 rivalry going on there. Um. I like the idea of 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.960 Cook taking the stage and saying essentially doing what Steve 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.080 Jobs did for the announcement of the iPhone, saying, talk 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:15.040 about an iPod that has wireless connectivity, a phone and 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.879 an Internet device, and that you know, as he goes on, 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.840 you realize he's talking about one product, not three products. 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.320 So something allot the lines of UH. Today, I want 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:31.240 to introduce to you a phone, a car, and an 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:34.080 Internet device. A phone, a car, an Internet device. Are 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.520 you guys getting it? It's the same thing. It's the 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.200 I car. That's what I want to see. I think 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.240 a car. Just saying the phrase of cars a little 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.920 bit um what's the word? It kind of gives it 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.880 away too much everything. They would come up with something 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.000 fancier to say, I think it gives it away too 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.800 much too, But I think I got a personal transport device. Yeah, 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:55.800 because then it could be a segue, right and the 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.960 investing Are you getting it? It's our car and we 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.520 think you're gonna love it. It's the thinnest car, which 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.480 is really bad for the safety tests. Well it would 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.200 it would. It would save on power consumption. You wouldn't 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.240 have is much mass to move around. The lightest car. 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.239 It gets picked up from the slightest breeze Yeah, if 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:21.760 you want to turn left, you just swipe left. Some 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:25.160 features will be added later. It turns out that you're 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.320 all of your all of your navigation features are likely 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.040 to send you to places that don't exist. Or oh 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.439 that's gotten that's gotten better this year, and Apple has 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:38.080 drones out there checking out at least that's coccording a 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.600 certain recent report that Apple's got drones out there searching, 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.960 getting a maps app data back to the Maps apps. 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.080 Maybe it's not as bad as it used to be. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.520 Where you where you don't have like the Washington Monument 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.000 located across the street from where it really is that 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:54.520 kind of thing. Oh no, they moved that just for 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.960 the Apple's map decided that's the drones are there for. 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.640 They like, oh, you're right, it does look better over 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.840 here exactly alright. So what was your next one? Sorry? 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.600 Mine was also dead. Rom Google was gonna go wireless 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.840 and finally it was gonna become its own wireless carrier. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.760 Now that didn't happen. In I remember was talking a 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.520 bit about Project five being out there and Google still 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.760 has that, uh, and I was thinking maybe they were 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.679 tied in with Google Fiber, and Google Fiber would be 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.200 some kind of backbone for a wireless service. Yeah, that 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.040 slowed down to Google Fiber. There was a post on 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.320 it from Google saying, for the most part, our potential 0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:31.359 fiber cities, those where we have where we've been in 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.320 exploratory discussions, We're going to pause our operations and offices 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.399 while we were fine our approaches. So it looks like 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:43.520 Google's pushed towards wired and wireless internet seems to be installed. Surprisingly, 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.080 I really thought they were going to push forward with 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.640 this maybe next year. Then maybe maybe there's always hope 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.760 that they do this because there's so much consolidation in 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.520 the wireless and wired space at this point that competition 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.520 is good. But um, yeah, when when it happened, when 0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.720