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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Good Morning Football live here in New

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Speaker 3: York City. Halfway through your week as we wind down

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Speaker 3: the month of August. I'm Jamie Erdall. That is Kyle Brandt,

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Speaker 3: Peter Schrager, and Jason mccordy.

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Speaker 4: Time for Ley Block.

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Speaker 3: Tom Peli sera awake with us this morning, our NFL

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Speaker 3: Network insider Tom. Jonathan Taylor. We were all waiting on

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Speaker 3: baited breath. Four pm Eastern was the deadline yesterday. Taylor

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Speaker 3: still a member of the Indianapolis Colts, but we won't

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Speaker 3: see him on the field for the first four games

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Speaker 3: as he continues drumming on that pup list.

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Speaker 4: What's going on in Indy?

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Speaker 5: Let's rite Jamie. The Colts, with no trade materializing, move

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor to the reserve physically unable to perform list

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Speaker 5: on Tuesday, which means that he is out for at

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Speaker 5: least the first four games. Now, there were trade talks

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Speaker 5: between the Colts, his agent Malki Cowa, and multiple other teams,

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Speaker 5: including the Dolphins. My understanding is no trade was closed

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Speaker 5: prior to Tuesday's four pm team imposed trade deadline. It's

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Speaker 5: a complicated deal to do here because the Colts want

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Speaker 5: significant compensation, more than the Panthers got from Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 5: last fall, and Jonathan Taylor wants to be paid at

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Speaker 5: the top of the market in a down market at

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Speaker 5: a time that he is coming off of ankle surgery.

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Speaker 5: But Taylor's trade request continues to stand. There's nothing precluding

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Speaker 5: those talks from continuing here. The NFL trade deadline, which

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Speaker 5: is ultimately the one that matters, is still two months away.

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Speaker 5: In other news, the Patriots cut all their quarterbacks not

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Speaker 5: named Mac Jones. That includes Bailey Zappi, who started a

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Speaker 5: couple of games for them last season and won those games,

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Speaker 5: as well as preseason sensation Malik Cunningham. Both these names

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Speaker 5: are going to be interest seemed to watch on waivers

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Speaker 5: today if they are not claimed, and it's quite possible

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Speaker 5: that they will return on the Patriots practice squad, but

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Speaker 5: both players would also be free to sign with another team.

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Speaker 5: Teams have until noon Eastern time today to file those

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Speaker 4: Jamie Tom, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Colts and the Patriots play in Germany later on in November.

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Speaker 3: You're hoping all of this is resolved by then, but

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Speaker 3: we will have to wait until then. We'll rely on

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Speaker 3: Tom Pelicaro for the news for all topics. Thank you, Tom,

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Speaker 3: talk to you a little bit. So Mac Jones just

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Speaker 3: the only guy that's quarterback room right now. Everyone else's

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Speaker 3: tape has been torn off their locker and it's.

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Speaker 4: Just Jones right now.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with the Patriots and the moves they

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Speaker 3: made yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Chasin to have a solo quarterback right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Kind of interesting. I think you watched it and you're like,

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Speaker 7: all right, this Malie Cunningham guy, he was really good

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Speaker 7: in the preseason, flashed in Week one? Could they keep

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Speaker 7: him and make a project out of there? It's like,

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Speaker 7: all right, Billy Zappy as him and Mac Jones, those

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Speaker 7: are the two guys. How we went in the training

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Speaker 2: Pushing Mac Jones in that room.

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Speaker 7: And it's been Mack the entire preseason as it started

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Speaker 7: getting all the first team reps. So when Bill decided

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Speaker 7: to cut both of these guys, I started to think,

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Speaker 7: I'm all right, what could Bill be thinking? I tried

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Speaker 7: to put myself in Bill Belichick's behind it, Bill sitting

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Speaker 7: they saying to himself, for myself, who are the guys

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Speaker 7: And you're like, all right, maybe he's looking for an

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Speaker 7: So then you start to go down the list and

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Speaker 7: it's just like you know, like a dating app or something,

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Speaker 7: Maybe they didn't want him their PJ. Walker seemed like

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Speaker 7: Tim Boyle good friends with Aaron Rodgers. Maybe you bring

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Speaker 7: Roal Grill was absolutely fantastic and down was his last

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Speaker 9: So right there, four more you're going through the speed dating.

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Speaker 7: You get up and they're like, I just found someone

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Speaker 7: to the point where I'm like, Billy's Abby's coming back

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Speaker 7: at some point. This is no different than twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 7: the practice squad eventually to be elevating. Yes, they're gambling

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Speaker 7: a little bit here. Billy's Abby could get picked up

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Speaker 9: Be mc jobs my hand up. And I'll say it

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Speaker 8: I didn't watch the two and a half games of

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Speaker 9: I saw highlights. I watched a.

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Speaker 8: Couple, but you were there watching every single snaest. To

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Speaker 8: I've heard and this isn't We're not opening the show

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Speaker 8: But if they're going so bold to say we can

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Speaker 8: if one of the other thirty one teams pick them up,

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Speaker 8: god bless them. Well, if you're bailey z Appy, why

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Speaker 8: do you want to go back there? If I'm Bailey's Appy,

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Speaker 8: I'm like, get me as far away from that situation

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Speaker 8: clearly they think pretty lowly of me that in my

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Speaker 4: I started Monday Night football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if I came in off the bench and I'm

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Speaker 9: So I'm curiously the Bailey's Appy part.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, everyone on Twitter was like, well, they'll just

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Speaker 8: bring back Bailey's apple and he'll be on the practice

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Speaker 8: squad and they'll bring back cutting him. If I'm zappy,

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Speaker 8: That is some statement to say, You're like, there's other

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Speaker 8: positions we need. We're bringing back eight eight linebackers. We

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Speaker 8: can't have a backup quarterback. I think that Belichick does

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Speaker 8: things on his own way and there's an old path.

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Speaker 8: But like the Zappi topic, I never expected us to

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Speaker 8: But you know, at one point, does the player look

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Speaker 8: at the Patriots say, you know, there's other teams. Baileys

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Speaker 8: sure you could find a way. I'm curious if Bailey's

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Speaker 8: what I'm not going to come back to table too

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Speaker 8: my likes and say yes, sir, may have another I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna say no, go find another backup quarterback and then

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Speaker 4: Is it cheaper to do it that way?

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Speaker 3: Why this form of business execution is no.

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Speaker 9: They want to get extra positions. They don't want to

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Speaker 9: lose extra place. So, yeah, you could only keep fifty three.

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Speaker 8: So if you let go of a backup safety that

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Speaker 8: then you'll you'll keep the backup safety. But in this case,

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Speaker 8: they're like, you know, if thirty one teams want Bailey's

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Speaker 7: Their thought is there's not going to be wow.

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Speaker 9: If you're Zafy.

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Speaker 7: If there's no opportunity that allows you to be the

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Speaker 8: Got on this two guys kid, he can't be the

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Speaker 9: If they are so bold to say, I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 3: But wouldn't that qualified form a league cunning him too.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it work for both?

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Speaker 7: He's yeah, he's developed.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you're saying, oh, Belgick does thinks his

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Speaker 1: This is a full logan Roy. I don't care that

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Speaker 1: but I think he's like he's looking at Zappi and

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Speaker 1: Cunningham and I look like I love you, but like

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Speaker 2: Just says it straight to him. That's like the ultimate

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Speaker 1: Listen, if Mac Jones is good and there's the two patriarchs,

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Speaker 1: we're spending a lot of time talking about who his

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Speaker 2: He's good.

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Speaker 1: I think it's almost an indictment of Mac that we're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: you're letting go of Bailey Zachy, Like, do we talk

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Speaker 2: James going to later? Because that's an interesting story, but

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Speaker 2: after the football sense, peterre't gonna put you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Trevor Lawrence. Do you know who his backup is?

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Speaker 1: They know?

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Speaker 9: They just cut Nathan.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they cut, but we're not like, who's Lawrence's backup?

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Speaker 1: But we're like, we better have somebody for Max because

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Speaker 1: we were having a mini about like Bailey's Appy might

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Speaker 1: be the better guy.

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Speaker 2: We were in all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody in the world got excited about Malik

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Speaker 1: Cunningham a couple of weeks ago. Tom just called him

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Speaker 1: a sensation because he was running around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So listen, Max in here this like there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things a flutter about who's behind me, And it's

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Speaker 1: not because of my health.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit because of how good

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Speaker 2: I am. I really do think so. And listen, Jason

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Speaker 1: We know somewhere that they need a watchful protector and

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Speaker 8: Year by year, I revealed my breakout players list a

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Speaker 9: His MVP season. We can go on and on.

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Speaker 8: Here's what we got so far, John Dotson, Tony Adams

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Speaker 9: Still don't even know about him.

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Speaker 8: Cam Taylor, Brent number one in Cincinnati, Greg Dolcicch.

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Speaker 9: We were laughing yesterday, like who Greg.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 9: How about Patriots wide receiver to.

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Speaker 8: Mario Pop Douglas, Pop Douglas. Let's go Pop Pop is

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Speaker 8: out of Liberty. This guy's nickname was Pop. His grandfather

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Speaker 9: Drafted him in the.

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Speaker 8: Two time leader in receiving and receptions and receiving yards

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Speaker 9: So you're like, there's no way this guy.

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Speaker 8: Liberty Baby Abritty turns out talent guys over the years.

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Speaker 8: We have seen some guys Malik Willis, of course, a

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Speaker 9: Pop Douglas sixth round pick, and.

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Speaker 8: You're like, what about that wide receiver's room. Where does

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Speaker 8: what's the expectation one hundred catches? No, But if you're

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Speaker 8: Pop Douglas, he's a part of the offensive game plan.

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Speaker 9: They've been keeping him quiet a little bit. He's had

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Speaker 8: Maybe not a national name yet certainly not being drafted

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Speaker 8: Doesn't come to me throwing stuff at the wall. This

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Speaker 9: Pop Douglas okay list and.

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Speaker 2: Five five, five, eight, one to ninety.

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Speaker 8: I looked it up, five eight fifty as they come,

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Speaker 9: Who's number four on the list?

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Speaker 9: Is it Rice? Is it generic? Prince? Talk about our

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Speaker 8: That's the guy, right now because he's one of the

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Speaker 9: Pick last year. They traded up to get him.

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Speaker 8: You look at him also, just twenty two years old,

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Speaker 9: I've got Trent McDuffie as.

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Speaker 8: He's deep down there. Last round picking your fantasy draft.

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Speaker 8: You will not be disappointed. Da Mario Pop Douglas. Jason mccordy,

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Speaker 7: They are raving about Pop Douglas so much that that

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Speaker 2: Fire, fought on Jamie.

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Speaker 9: It's a first round pick.

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Speaker 8: A lot of pressure on him, doesn't start the season,

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Speaker 4: In that's cool, that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, great list, were going number one top, give

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Speaker 9: Well, I broke my rule. I went with a rookie year.

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Speaker 9: Can I do it again?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Back out?

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Speaker 4: My question is like, who Pop? Who's throwing to you? Man?

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Speaker 4: I wish the best for you.

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Speaker 3: But what's going on there? I know Mac to pop? Guys,

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Speaker 3: guess what coming.

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Speaker 4: On the show?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: No, old friend, he's knocking out push ups on his

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Speaker 4: Hey, it's time for whiteboard Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: We saw Dalvin Cook pop up during the episode of

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Speaker 3: Hard Knocks last night. He's practicing now with the Jets

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Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl this year, and running back for

438
00:17:48,108 --> 00:17:50,788
Speaker 3: the Jets told reporters, quote, I think it's very realistic.

439
00:17:50,868 --> 00:17:52,548
Speaker 3: I think it's something to be excited about.

440
00:17:52,708 --> 00:17:53,188
Speaker 1: End quote.

441
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Speaker 4: All Right, the dark horse team.

442
00:17:54,828 --> 00:17:56,908
Speaker 3: If you want to consider the Jets that with a

443
00:17:57,148 --> 00:18:00,148
Speaker 3: realistic chance to win the Super Bowl would be it's

444
00:18:00,228 --> 00:18:01,108
Speaker 3: kind of an oxymoron.

445
00:18:01,228 --> 00:18:02,548
Speaker 4: Dark horse team, realistic chance.

446
00:18:02,588 --> 00:18:05,028
Speaker 10: But Peter got been yourself in circles in this market

447
00:18:05,068 --> 00:18:07,308
Speaker 10: talking about the Jets, and then just as you're talking

448
00:18:07,308 --> 00:18:08,948
Speaker 10: about the Jets, someone will tap you on their bat

449
00:18:09,028 --> 00:18:11,108
Speaker 10: on your back and be like, how about my Giants,

450
00:18:11,108 --> 00:18:12,588
Speaker 10: And You're like, Giants are really good.

451
00:18:12,628 --> 00:18:15,388
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go the New York Giants dark horse super

452
00:18:15,388 --> 00:18:17,348
Speaker 9: Bowl contender this year. They made the playoffs.

453
00:18:17,428 --> 00:18:19,308
Speaker 8: Last year, they won a playoff game on the road

454
00:18:19,588 --> 00:18:22,988
Speaker 8: beat a thirteen win Vikings team, and they only got

455
00:18:23,188 --> 00:18:27,708
Speaker 8: better this offseason and the Big Cook play. Everyone's like, well,

456
00:18:27,868 --> 00:18:29,188
Speaker 8: their schedule is gonna be harder.

457
00:18:29,428 --> 00:18:31,268
Speaker 9: Guess what, guys, it's August.

458
00:18:31,548 --> 00:18:34,348
Speaker 8: Every team schedule is looking hard right now.

459
00:18:34,628 --> 00:18:37,468
Speaker 9: The Giants are really good. They paid Daniel Jones, Saquan

460
00:18:37,508 --> 00:18:39,508
Speaker 9: seems to be all on board, and they added a

461
00:18:39,508 --> 00:18:41,988
Speaker 9: ton of weapons. And Waller and Paris Campbell and.

462
00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:44,348
Speaker 8: Jalen Hyatt, and I like the defense with Winks. So

463
00:18:44,588 --> 00:18:47,748
Speaker 8: I'm gonna see the Giants dark horse super Bowl. Connor

464
00:18:47,788 --> 00:18:49,148
Speaker 8: and I'm saying I'm picking them the win super Bowl

465
00:18:49,188 --> 00:18:49,828
Speaker 8: or anything by that.

466
00:18:50,068 --> 00:18:51,668
Speaker 9: But if you're talking about a team and you're.

467
00:18:51,508 --> 00:18:53,108
Speaker 8: Looking down the list and being like, well, maybe I

468
00:18:53,148 --> 00:18:54,988
Speaker 8: could see the Giants making a run. Guess what feels

469
00:18:54,988 --> 00:18:59,148
Speaker 8: a little eerily like those twenty eleven seventeen Yeah, I.

470
00:18:59,188 --> 00:18:59,708
Speaker 2: Like that too.

471
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Speaker 9: You liked him, They're good.

472
00:19:01,388 --> 00:19:03,868
Speaker 7: I'm going with the Seattle Seahawks. This is the team

473
00:19:03,948 --> 00:19:06,428
Speaker 7: that obviously was good last year, made the playoffs. But

474
00:19:06,428 --> 00:19:08,388
Speaker 7: I don't know if anyone's looking at Seattle right now

475
00:19:08,388 --> 00:19:10,628
Speaker 7: and they're saying, all right, I like Gino Smith to

476
00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:12,868
Speaker 7: lead this Pete Carroll led team and go on to

477
00:19:12,908 --> 00:19:14,988
Speaker 7: Super Bowl one and be hoisting the Lombardi at the

478
00:19:15,068 --> 00:19:17,468
Speaker 7: end of the season. But I look at Seattle and

479
00:19:17,548 --> 00:19:20,668
Speaker 7: they added Devin Witherspoon, Bobby Wagner came back to town.

480
00:19:20,668 --> 00:19:23,708
Speaker 7: Their defense struggling a little last year. Jamal Adams should

481
00:19:23,748 --> 00:19:25,548
Speaker 7: be out there for them at the safety position. They've

482
00:19:25,548 --> 00:19:28,268
Speaker 7: added some pieces of guys that have been there. Now back,

483
00:19:28,348 --> 00:19:31,108
Speaker 7: I think they can make a run that possibly nobody's

484
00:19:31,148 --> 00:19:33,268
Speaker 7: expecting and maybe be a team at the end of

485
00:19:33,308 --> 00:19:33,948
Speaker 7: the season.

486
00:19:33,748 --> 00:19:36,228
Speaker 2: Like wow from us to what the hell were they

487
00:19:36,228 --> 00:19:36,828
Speaker 2: going to do next?

488
00:19:36,828 --> 00:19:39,028
Speaker 7: And now we're talking about a Pete Carroll and Gino

489
00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:41,028
Speaker 7: Smith team that they're playing in the Super Bowl.

490
00:19:41,028 --> 00:19:41,428
Speaker 9: Who knows?

491
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Speaker 1: All right, so at Giants and Seahawks, these guys, you

492
00:19:44,388 --> 00:19:46,508
Speaker 1: both won Triple A ball. Let's go to the American

493
00:19:46,508 --> 00:19:50,348
Speaker 1: Football Conference right, here's the fact, all right, the last

494
00:19:50,348 --> 00:19:52,668
Speaker 1: time it was a real situation with real football for

495
00:19:52,748 --> 00:19:55,308
Speaker 1: the Browns quarterback, he's a top five guy, not top ten,

496
00:19:55,388 --> 00:19:59,748
Speaker 1: not top twelve, top five, superstar, fantastic. The Browns might

497
00:19:59,828 --> 00:20:01,828
Speaker 1: have one of the top quarterbacks. They may have the

498
00:20:01,908 --> 00:20:03,748
Speaker 1: league's best running back. They may have the league's best

499
00:20:03,748 --> 00:20:06,348
Speaker 1: pass rusher. They have a Coach of the Year. They

500
00:20:06,348 --> 00:20:08,548
Speaker 1: have won in the playoffs at least a few years ago.

501
00:20:09,148 --> 00:20:12,108
Speaker 1: And that AFC, and specific the AFC North, is going

502
00:20:12,148 --> 00:20:14,908
Speaker 1: to cannibalize itself one way or another. If the Browns

503
00:20:14,948 --> 00:20:17,668
Speaker 1: can tread water, win, win, win, and the Deshaun thing

504
00:20:17,748 --> 00:20:20,348
Speaker 1: takes off and he resembles who he looked like three

505
00:20:20,428 --> 00:20:22,828
Speaker 1: years ago. He's not an old man not coming off

506
00:20:22,868 --> 00:20:27,428
Speaker 1: an injury. It's fresh, rested, studied ready. He could be fantastic.

507
00:20:27,708 --> 00:20:30,628
Speaker 1: The Browns being the AFC team would be an unbelievable thing.

508
00:20:30,788 --> 00:20:33,108
Speaker 1: And the Bills, Bengals, Raven Steelers kind of pick each

509
00:20:33,148 --> 00:20:34,748
Speaker 1: other off. And the Browns like we figured this thing

510
00:20:34,748 --> 00:20:37,708
Speaker 1: out under Stefanski. Miles Garrett, the defensive player of the year,

511
00:20:37,908 --> 00:20:40,188
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith is in the conversation and we're going to

512
00:20:40,308 --> 00:20:41,228
Speaker 1: rough people up.

513
00:20:41,348 --> 00:20:43,108
Speaker 2: I think it's the Browns, you know what, I'm thinking.

514
00:20:43,108 --> 00:20:46,348
Speaker 8: It's a lot to like, I'm picturing thousands and thousands

515
00:20:46,388 --> 00:20:50,188
Speaker 8: and thousands of Browns fans boarding a trip to Vegas for.

516
00:20:55,908 --> 00:20:58,228
Speaker 2: What if they're meeting the Philadelphia fans when they get there.

517
00:21:00,028 --> 00:21:02,508
Speaker 3: Remember last year you were talking about what would have

518
00:21:02,548 --> 00:21:05,468
Speaker 3: happened if it had been Bill's eagle? Yeah, what would

519
00:21:05,508 --> 00:21:10,268
Speaker 3: have trans Yeah, they would need to start collecting can

520
00:21:10,308 --> 00:21:15,068
Speaker 3: goods and shotgun shells exactly. So maybe that's our opener opening.

521
00:21:17,908 --> 00:21:21,268
Speaker 3: Here's the question which team has the biggest target on

522
00:21:21,308 --> 00:21:23,708
Speaker 3: their back? Do you think it's the defending champion Chiefs

523
00:21:23,708 --> 00:21:26,868
Speaker 3: that Rogers acknowledged himself, or is it the aforementioned New

524
00:21:26,948 --> 00:21:27,468
Speaker 3: York Jets.

525
00:21:27,468 --> 00:21:30,828
Speaker 8: Funny, right, every year it's the Super Bowl champion has

526
00:21:30,828 --> 00:21:32,508
Speaker 8: this big target on their back, right, so.

527
00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:33,668
Speaker 9: Everyone's got in the locker room.

528
00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:35,548
Speaker 8: I feel like people want to take down the Jets

529
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:37,668
Speaker 8: more than the Chiefs this year. I think they're the

530
00:21:37,748 --> 00:21:40,708
Speaker 8: humble pie, the humility that let's serve them what they'd

531
00:21:40,708 --> 00:21:42,908
Speaker 8: actually deserve and let's see what like that is feeding

532
00:21:42,948 --> 00:21:45,268
Speaker 8: a lot of people to see Jihad Ward, who is

533
00:21:45,268 --> 00:21:47,588
Speaker 8: not a household name, but as an NFL player, get

534
00:21:47,628 --> 00:21:51,428
Speaker 8: into it with Rogers in a preseason game. That is

535
00:21:51,428 --> 00:21:53,188
Speaker 8: just going to give you a little wrinkle into what's

536
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Speaker 8: probably being said in locker rooms across the country. As

537
00:21:56,668 --> 00:22:00,548
Speaker 8: we start every show talking Jets. ESPN starts every show

538
00:22:00,628 --> 00:22:04,148
Speaker 8: talking Jets. Hard Knocks chooses the Jets. The NFL has

539
00:22:04,188 --> 00:22:05,828
Speaker 8: got to find a team for the Hall of Fame game.

540
00:22:05,828 --> 00:22:09,308
Speaker 9: They choose the Jets. Monday Night Football starts with the Jets.

541
00:22:09,668 --> 00:22:12,628
Speaker 8: Guess who they got the next couple of weeks, Jets, Jets, Jets,

542
00:22:12,708 --> 00:22:13,348
Speaker 8: Jets all over.

543
00:22:13,588 --> 00:22:14,628
Speaker 9: I think it wrost people wrong.

544
00:22:14,788 --> 00:22:17,268
Speaker 8: I think players across some league, I think teams across

545
00:22:17,268 --> 00:22:20,068
Speaker 8: the league, and I certainly think you know, organizations as

546
00:22:20,068 --> 00:22:21,748
Speaker 8: a whole roll their eyes at this Jets thing and

547
00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:23,868
Speaker 8: they can't wait to take down the Jets and say,

548
00:22:23,908 --> 00:22:27,228
Speaker 8: same old Jets. So in the weirdness of circumstances, we

549
00:22:27,308 --> 00:22:28,748
Speaker 8: have this graphic like if you had asked me in

550
00:22:28,788 --> 00:22:32,028
Speaker 8: February which team has a bigger target on their back

551
00:22:32,068 --> 00:22:34,428
Speaker 8: before Rogers got here, I would laugh and say, well,

552
00:22:34,468 --> 00:22:36,668
Speaker 8: the Jets are just kind of like a dead dog

553
00:22:36,708 --> 00:22:37,788
Speaker 8: that people just beat up on.

554
00:22:37,788 --> 00:22:40,468
Speaker 9: And just kick them. That's kind of sad. But anyway,

555
00:22:40,668 --> 00:22:41,988
Speaker 9: the Jets have a target on the back.

556
00:22:41,988 --> 00:22:43,428
Speaker 8: I think if you were to ask the Bills right

557
00:22:43,428 --> 00:22:46,748
Speaker 8: now who they'd rather take down, I think they'd say, I,

558
00:22:46,748 --> 00:22:48,668
Speaker 8: we'd love to beat the Jets thirty eight nothing, but

559
00:22:48,708 --> 00:22:51,348
Speaker 8: after all the Jets talking and the Chiefs, we respect them.

560
00:22:51,388 --> 00:22:53,828
Speaker 8: They're worthy opponents. We're not like, you know, circling them

561
00:22:53,828 --> 00:22:55,668
Speaker 8: on our board and throwing darts at them.

562
00:22:55,668 --> 00:22:56,108
Speaker 9: The Jets.

563
00:22:56,148 --> 00:22:57,748
Speaker 2: Oh, the Bills would say, well, we're worried.

564
00:22:57,628 --> 00:22:59,588
Speaker 1: About the team we have in our which happens to

565
00:22:59,588 --> 00:23:01,148
Speaker 1: be the Jets. The Derminal come oount and saying like,

566
00:23:01,188 --> 00:23:03,308
Speaker 1: we're not talking about the Chiefs right now. Jays, let

567
00:23:03,308 --> 00:23:06,228
Speaker 1: me do you think think that the defensive players specifically

568
00:23:06,268 --> 00:23:08,868
Speaker 1: around the league. Do you think they like Rogers? Like,

569
00:23:08,908 --> 00:23:10,268
Speaker 1: are they fans of FSI? Do you think they like

570
00:23:10,348 --> 00:23:11,868
Speaker 1: him as a guy on the field and all that.

571
00:23:12,108 --> 00:23:14,948
Speaker 7: There's a huge level of respect, But I think at

572
00:23:14,948 --> 00:23:17,668
Speaker 7: the same time, like he's one of the greatest. So

573
00:23:17,868 --> 00:23:20,108
Speaker 7: you want to go in there and to what Rogers

574
00:23:20,148 --> 00:23:21,988
Speaker 7: said out there, don't poke the bear when they threw

575
00:23:22,028 --> 00:23:24,148
Speaker 7: that touchdown pass. You want to go poke the bear.

576
00:23:24,268 --> 00:23:25,908
Speaker 7: You want to go see what you can get out

577
00:23:25,948 --> 00:23:27,988
Speaker 7: of them. And that's what Ward was doing on that play.

578
00:23:27,988 --> 00:23:29,908
Speaker 7: He hit him, gave him a little extra shove, And

579
00:23:29,948 --> 00:23:32,788
Speaker 7: I think to Shrike's point, that's all the hard knocks,

580
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:35,108
Speaker 7: that's all the build up, especially for a Giants team

581
00:23:35,148 --> 00:23:37,588
Speaker 7: who was in the playoffs last day market, who play

582
00:23:37,628 --> 00:23:40,468
Speaker 7: in the same exact stadium on Sundays, and it's just like,

583
00:23:40,548 --> 00:23:42,428
Speaker 7: here's this extra shove because just like we don't care

584
00:23:42,468 --> 00:23:44,788
Speaker 7: about you just got to this team and hard knocks

585
00:23:44,788 --> 00:23:47,348
Speaker 7: and all of those different things. But I still circle

586
00:23:47,388 --> 00:23:49,468
Speaker 7: back and I think it's the Chiefs. I think at

587
00:23:49,508 --> 00:23:51,428
Speaker 7: the end of the day, all the pub and everything

588
00:23:51,428 --> 00:23:53,988
Speaker 7: the Jets are getting, yeah, it hypes that game up

589
00:23:54,028 --> 00:23:56,468
Speaker 7: a little bit more, but the Chiefs are the measuring stick.

590
00:23:56,468 --> 00:23:58,068
Speaker 7: I think when they're on your schedule and they're the

591
00:23:58,188 --> 00:24:00,908
Speaker 7: upcoming opponent, you're getting ready for that game and you're like,

592
00:24:00,948 --> 00:24:03,588
Speaker 7: all right, how I do against Mahomes? That says something

593
00:24:03,628 --> 00:24:06,028
Speaker 7: about me, That says something about my career. If I'm

594
00:24:06,028 --> 00:24:08,508
Speaker 7: a coach, As we're getting ready for this game, you're

595
00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:09,948
Speaker 7: going out there and you're coming out of it as

596
00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:11,628
Speaker 7: when hell of a hit, you're coming out of it

597
00:24:11,668 --> 00:24:12,388
Speaker 7: and you're just like.

598
00:24:12,348 --> 00:24:14,468
Speaker 2: All right, I think we got a shot. I think

599
00:24:14,508 --> 00:24:14,988
Speaker 2: we can do.

600
00:24:14,988 --> 00:24:17,628
Speaker 7: Something out here because you're measuring up against the champs,

601
00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:19,068
Speaker 7: the team that you know is gonna be there at

602
00:24:19,068 --> 00:24:21,188
Speaker 7: the end because of the guys they have. We mentioned

603
00:24:21,188 --> 00:24:23,348
Speaker 7: it earlier, Mahomes, Kelsey, No matter what you're.

604
00:24:23,228 --> 00:24:24,988
Speaker 2: Talking about, these guys come up.

605
00:24:24,988 --> 00:24:26,908
Speaker 7: So I think at the end of the day, they

606
00:24:26,988 --> 00:24:29,468
Speaker 7: always have the biggest target on their back because of

607
00:24:29,508 --> 00:24:32,108
Speaker 7: what they've accomplished. I think the Jets is more about

608
00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:34,748
Speaker 7: what everybody is saying about them. They're pub yet we

609
00:24:34,788 --> 00:24:37,548
Speaker 7: get excited, but the proof is a proof and the

610
00:24:37,588 --> 00:24:38,868
Speaker 7: facts of the facts and the chiefs of that.

611
00:24:38,908 --> 00:24:40,548
Speaker 8: Do you not think it's annoying when the team gets

612
00:24:40,588 --> 00:24:42,988
Speaker 8: their flowers before they' accomplished anything. Don't you feel like

613
00:24:43,028 --> 00:24:45,028
Speaker 8: that is the story with the Jets, that they're already

614
00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:47,628
Speaker 8: being gifted these primetime games and being gifted all this

615
00:24:47,668 --> 00:24:50,268
Speaker 8: attention when they haven't done squat in the field.

616
00:24:50,668 --> 00:24:53,188
Speaker 7: That's why we see it in also in the preseason,

617
00:24:53,388 --> 00:24:55,228
Speaker 7: you know they're on hard knocks. I want to go

618
00:24:55,268 --> 00:24:57,788
Speaker 7: and put a performance together to go against it because

619
00:24:57,788 --> 00:24:58,428
Speaker 7: it's gonna be on TV.

620
00:24:58,468 --> 00:24:59,508
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna watch it.

621
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Speaker 7: And you hate that because if you're sitting there, like

622
00:25:01,748 --> 00:25:03,548
Speaker 7: I said, the Giants suicide, we were better than this

623
00:25:03,588 --> 00:25:05,908
Speaker 7: team last year and we got better in the off season,

624
00:25:05,908 --> 00:25:07,188
Speaker 7: but still only talking about them.

625
00:25:07,308 --> 00:25:08,268
Speaker 2: I think it's the Chiefs.

626
00:25:08,468 --> 00:25:11,188
Speaker 1: I think if the Lions opening night were to beat

627
00:25:11,228 --> 00:25:13,748
Speaker 1: the Jets, like, oh a good win. If they're to

628
00:25:13,788 --> 00:25:15,668
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, still have a parade like that, that

629
00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:17,508
Speaker 1: would be the biggest Lions winning years.

630
00:25:17,548 --> 00:25:19,548
Speaker 2: It'll be a crazy upset. We'll all be losing our mind.

631
00:25:19,588 --> 00:25:20,548
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Chiefs lost.

632
00:25:20,668 --> 00:25:22,668
Speaker 1: If the Jets lost opening nights to the Lines will

633
00:25:22,668 --> 00:25:23,948
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, yeah, the Lines are good. We

634
00:25:23,988 --> 00:25:25,788
Speaker 1: saw that coming. I still think it's the Chiefs. I

635
00:25:25,788 --> 00:25:28,148
Speaker 1: think it's a standard. There's something much more personal and

636
00:25:28,188 --> 00:25:30,788
Speaker 1: spicy about the Jets thing because it's not based on winning,

637
00:25:30,828 --> 00:25:33,428
Speaker 1: it's based on hype. There's another question players right now,

638
00:25:33,428 --> 00:25:34,628
Speaker 1: the players are in the link. Do you think they

639
00:25:34,628 --> 00:25:35,588
Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks like.

640
00:25:35,548 --> 00:25:36,628
Speaker 9: You know, I never did.

641
00:25:36,788 --> 00:25:38,948
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think some guys watch.

642
00:25:39,068 --> 00:25:40,668
Speaker 7: I think a lot of guys see the clip clips.

643
00:25:40,748 --> 00:25:40,908
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:25:40,908 --> 00:25:42,668
Speaker 7: I think a lot of guys see the clip Twitter

645
00:25:42,788 --> 00:25:43,668
Speaker 7: see different people.

646
00:25:43,508 --> 00:25:44,428
Speaker 2: And then clips are good.

647
00:25:44,548 --> 00:25:44,868
Speaker 9: Yeah.

648
00:25:44,948 --> 00:25:48,228
Speaker 1: I think generally, I think on the field, Rogers is liked,

649
00:25:48,388 --> 00:25:50,148
Speaker 1: and I mean that by other guys like I vividly

650
00:25:50,188 --> 00:25:52,308
Speaker 1: remember the years ago when Erlaker retired. He's like, I'm

651
00:25:52,308 --> 00:25:54,308
Speaker 1: going to miss the conversations I had with Rogers. Like

652
00:25:54,348 --> 00:25:56,188
Speaker 1: they had a great back and forth between plays. They

653
00:25:56,228 --> 00:25:58,228
Speaker 1: would talk, they would chat. I think the Jihad word

654
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Speaker 1: thing that Peter talked about had animosity to it, and

655
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Speaker 1: f bombs everything.

656
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Speaker 2: I think that's the exception.

657
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Speaker 1: I think he Rogers bust chops if you seemut the

658
00:26:04,588 --> 00:26:07,868
Speaker 1: smiling in real games, laughing like Patton guys on the butt.

659
00:26:08,028 --> 00:26:09,708
Speaker 1: I think he has this thing with the Dominican sue

660
00:26:09,748 --> 00:26:11,428
Speaker 1: that's like a pro wrestling thing that's gone on for years.

661
00:26:11,428 --> 00:26:13,628
Speaker 1: I think generally people like him. I don't think there's

662
00:26:13,628 --> 00:26:16,828
Speaker 1: a real animosity towards Aaron Rodgers. I think there's a

663
00:26:16,908 --> 00:26:19,548
Speaker 1: little bit on eye roll about how much publicity they have,

664
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Speaker 1: But I roll back at that. I am at to

665
00:26:21,988 --> 00:26:23,588
Speaker 1: the point where I am so sick of hearing about

666
00:26:23,588 --> 00:26:25,868
Speaker 1: the Jets coverage and why are they getting so much coverage?

667
00:26:26,028 --> 00:26:28,908
Speaker 1: Because it's really interesting, guys, because there's been no games played.

668
00:26:28,948 --> 00:26:32,268
Speaker 1: Because maybe the best quarterback ever went to the huge

669
00:26:32,308 --> 00:26:34,028
Speaker 1: media market and on a new team, even if it

670
00:26:34,068 --> 00:26:36,028
Speaker 1: wasn't a huge media market, even if he went to

671
00:26:36,068 --> 00:26:38,828
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, it's really interesting that he's changed in teams

672
00:26:38,828 --> 00:26:40,148
Speaker 1: and he has a new coach, and we've been watching

673
00:26:40,228 --> 00:26:42,148
Speaker 1: him for twenty years, and it's like, oh, they got

674
00:26:42,188 --> 00:26:44,668
Speaker 1: so many primetime games, it's annoying. All you people do

675
00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:46,988
Speaker 1: is complain about the primetime matchups anyway when you don't

676
00:26:47,028 --> 00:26:48,788
Speaker 1: like him, and now that you have Rogers in prime.

677
00:26:48,588 --> 00:26:49,548
Speaker 2: Time, Mariag's too many.

678
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Speaker 1: There's been some other guames I could name that have

679
00:26:51,428 --> 00:26:54,068
Speaker 1: been in primetime that you have complained about NonStop. We're

680
00:26:54,068 --> 00:26:56,428
Speaker 1: talking about the Jets. If they lose by thirty points

681
00:26:56,428 --> 00:26:58,508
Speaker 1: to the Bills, we won't talk about him anymore. We'll

682
00:26:58,508 --> 00:27:00,188
Speaker 1: talk about the next day, but then it'll be over

683
00:27:00,508 --> 00:27:02,108
Speaker 1: right now, it's a story I.

684
00:27:02,028 --> 00:27:03,628
Speaker 2: Apologize for nothing we should be talking about.

685
00:27:03,628 --> 00:27:05,908
Speaker 8: Do you feel like there's glists out there and they're say, like,

686
00:27:05,908 --> 00:27:07,628
Speaker 8: who like would love to see the Jets fail on

687
00:27:07,628 --> 00:27:07,988
Speaker 8: their face?

688
00:27:08,068 --> 00:27:09,588
Speaker 9: Yeah right feeling.

689
00:27:09,548 --> 00:27:10,788
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would think so.

690
00:27:10,908 --> 00:27:13,748
Speaker 3: I think that happened when Rogers first arrived. I will

691
00:27:13,748 --> 00:27:16,748
Speaker 3: admit I was expecting to be much more annoyed by

692
00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:19,708
Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers Jets experience. I was like kind of

693
00:27:19,748 --> 00:27:21,948
Speaker 3: bracing for it. But that I kind of chalk that

694
00:27:22,068 --> 00:27:23,868
Speaker 3: up to Okay, I grew up in Minnesota. I was

695
00:27:23,948 --> 00:27:25,988
Speaker 3: kind of sick of him any ways, with the vikings, like,

696
00:27:26,028 --> 00:27:30,068
Speaker 3: I get it, but I've been pleasantly surprised by his behavior.

697
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:32,668
Speaker 3: But I talked about his body language, the way he's

698
00:27:32,708 --> 00:27:34,988
Speaker 3: come across on hard knocks, the way he's handled himself

699
00:27:34,988 --> 00:27:36,308
Speaker 3: in the city and in the media, in the way

700
00:27:36,308 --> 00:27:36,828
Speaker 3: he's practice.

701
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Speaker 4: He's been awesome.

702
00:27:38,108 --> 00:27:40,228
Speaker 3: I think it's the Jets because I think people, to

703
00:27:40,308 --> 00:27:42,468
Speaker 3: Kyle's point, are more annoyed and they want to take

704
00:27:42,468 --> 00:27:44,588
Speaker 3: down take down the Jets more. If you get beat

705
00:27:44,588 --> 00:27:46,588
Speaker 3: by the Chiefs, you're like, good game. We appreciate you,

706
00:27:46,628 --> 00:27:48,428
Speaker 3: but like you won the Zoper Bowl last year the Jets.

707
00:27:48,468 --> 00:27:49,948
Speaker 3: I think people are just like, I'm sick of you.

708
00:27:50,028 --> 00:27:50,788
Speaker 3: I want to take you down.

709
00:27:50,828 --> 00:27:52,028
Speaker 2: That's why I think is bigger.

710
00:27:52,228 --> 00:27:55,268
Speaker 1: I think that Robert Sala is not unlikable, like I

711
00:27:55,268 --> 00:27:57,388
Speaker 1: don't think he turns people off. I think you look

712
00:27:57,388 --> 00:28:00,108
Speaker 1: at these young guys like Garrett Wilson likable. If your

713
00:28:00,148 --> 00:28:03,308
Speaker 1: sauces around too much, maybe that's annoying. Quinn incredibly likable.

714
00:28:03,548 --> 00:28:05,708
Speaker 1: I do think that the hard nest thing has worked

715
00:28:05,748 --> 00:28:06,388
Speaker 1: really well for them.

716
00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:06,828
Speaker 2: The moment.

717
00:28:06,948 --> 00:28:08,428
Speaker 1: Let's get into the moment we're talking about that. For

718
00:28:08,508 --> 00:28:11,908
Speaker 1: some reason we know another video, but Rogers Ward kind

719
00:28:11,908 --> 00:28:13,828
Speaker 1: of gives them a little tas well.

720
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Speaker 2: After you throws and Rogers is me, what the pleep

721
00:28:15,788 --> 00:28:16,788
Speaker 2: you're doing? With the bleep you're doing?

722
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Speaker 1: And he rogers, I don't even know who you are,

723
00:28:19,068 --> 00:28:21,428
Speaker 1: and THENID says back to him, I don't know you are.

724
00:28:21,508 --> 00:28:23,508
Speaker 2: Rogers goes buleep, I don't know who I am.

725
00:28:23,788 --> 00:28:26,828
Speaker 1: That's how like, that's how players talk, That's how guys talk, like,

726
00:28:26,868 --> 00:28:27,828
Speaker 1: that's how people talk.

727
00:28:28,028 --> 00:28:28,908
Speaker 2: I love that moment.

728
00:28:28,988 --> 00:28:31,668
Speaker 1: I think I think people watching that I watched him

729
00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:32,988
Speaker 1: be like, oh, Rogers is a.

730
00:28:32,988 --> 00:28:35,228
Speaker 2: Dog going back and pushing Ward right away.

731
00:28:37,348 --> 00:28:39,828
Speaker 1: Rogers, I like that, I don't know who you are.

732
00:28:39,868 --> 00:28:41,268
Speaker 1: Turn around so I can see what your name is.

733
00:28:41,308 --> 00:28:41,788
Speaker 2: A classic.

734
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Speaker 1: It's a first ballot Hall of Fame, and it's all

735
00:28:43,468 --> 00:28:45,948
Speaker 1: to a player, especially when a Hall of Famer says it.

736
00:28:46,668 --> 00:28:48,948
Speaker 2: Like, yes, you know exactly why you remember Rogers to.

737
00:28:48,908 --> 00:28:50,748
Speaker 4: Go to the sideline and brag about it. He's like, Yo,

738
00:28:50,868 --> 00:28:51,868
Speaker 4: listen to what I just said to.

739
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Speaker 7: War microph'all are going to enjoy that.

740
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Speaker 8: I'm actually not sure Rogers does know who Jihad Ward is,

741
00:28:57,468 --> 00:28:59,028
Speaker 8: so I don't think.

742
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably the biggest thing that's ever happened to

743
00:29:02,788 --> 00:29:03,468
Speaker 1: j Ward's career.

744
00:29:03,628 --> 00:29:06,228
Speaker 2: Is that a nice career? Tell Melayer?

745
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Speaker 3: Ticket dot com. Still a come on our show to

751
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Speaker 3: a tunguo Iiloa's health will be at the utmost importance

752
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:33,108
Speaker 3: this season. Dolphins offensive tackle Toront Armstead joining us later

753
00:29:33,228 --> 00:29:43,188
Speaker 3: to talk about it.

754
00:29:45,348 --> 00:29:46,868
Speaker 2: Good morning football.

755
00:29:47,628 --> 00:29:50,468
Speaker 3: So the NFL will be broadcasting college football games this

756
00:29:50,508 --> 00:29:54,468
Speaker 3: weekend on both NFL Network and NFL Plus. On Saturday,

757
00:29:54,748 --> 00:29:58,828
Speaker 3: it's the Prudential Brick City HBCU Kickoff Classic featuring Grambling

758
00:29:58,868 --> 00:30:01,428
Speaker 3: State and Hampton. On Sunday, tune in for the Black

759
00:30:01,468 --> 00:30:04,068
Speaker 3: College Football Hall of Fame Classic when Morehouse College takes

760
00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:06,668
Speaker 3: on for in Your Union. More on that in just

761
00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:09,028
Speaker 3: a moment to kind of ties into our next guest.

762
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Speaker 4: We now welcome to the show.

763
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Speaker 3: A four time Pro Bowl offensive tackle out of Arkansas

764
00:30:13,508 --> 00:30:16,828
Speaker 3: Pine Bluff. Welcome to the Breakfast Table, Dolphins offensive line

765
00:30:16,828 --> 00:30:17,428
Speaker 3: in Toront.

766
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Speaker 6: Arms Hello, Hello, good morning.

767
00:30:21,428 --> 00:30:23,868
Speaker 4: Great to see you. We appreciate you starting your morning.

768
00:30:23,868 --> 00:30:26,188
Speaker 3: I know your practice later today, which is great to

769
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Speaker 3: hear because Toron, you suffered a leg injury during joint

770
00:30:29,668 --> 00:30:32,828
Speaker 3: practices with the Texans nearly two weeks ago. How are

771
00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:35,828
Speaker 3: you feeling back to one hundred percent ready for Week one?

772
00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:38,708
Speaker 3: What's the prep leg as we are ten ish days

773
00:30:38,748 --> 00:30:39,508
Speaker 3: away from kickoff.

774
00:30:39,748 --> 00:30:40,468
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're working.

775
00:30:40,548 --> 00:30:43,868
Speaker 6: We're working, just trying to get that low leg injury

776
00:30:44,388 --> 00:30:49,468
Speaker 6: and to the best possible feeling and functioning that I

777
00:30:49,468 --> 00:30:52,748
Speaker 6: can possibly get to by week one, and that's definitely

778
00:30:52,788 --> 00:30:54,148
Speaker 6: the goal to be out there for week one.

779
00:30:54,548 --> 00:30:56,268
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're looking forward to that. We want to see

780
00:30:56,268 --> 00:30:58,388
Speaker 7: you out there protecting your quarterback to a tongue of

781
00:30:58,388 --> 00:31:00,708
Speaker 7: our law, and he spoke about it just off season.

782
00:31:00,748 --> 00:31:03,268
Speaker 7: He's taken up jujitsu training to learn how to fall.

783
00:31:03,668 --> 00:31:06,148
Speaker 7: Does that add an any pressure to you guys up front,

784
00:31:06,148 --> 00:31:08,468
Speaker 7: but they're more important than that. Has he taught you

785
00:31:08,548 --> 00:31:11,188
Speaker 7: guys any moves or anything that you guys can now

786
00:31:11,228 --> 00:31:13,668
Speaker 7: apply to your blocking techniques.

787
00:31:13,988 --> 00:31:16,748
Speaker 6: I won't say that it's added any pressure. Our number

788
00:31:16,788 --> 00:31:20,268
Speaker 6: one objective and goal every snap is protect the quarterback.

789
00:31:20,308 --> 00:31:22,228
Speaker 6: You know, we want to keep him as clean as possible.

790
00:31:22,988 --> 00:31:27,588
Speaker 6: That's regardless of any other circumstances or any other situation.

791
00:31:27,708 --> 00:31:31,308
Speaker 6: So that's objective number one too. It hasn't taught me

792
00:31:31,628 --> 00:31:34,308
Speaker 6: any of those those digitsu moves, but it has been

793
00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:37,468
Speaker 6: is very it's been very impressive to see him be

794
00:31:37,508 --> 00:31:41,988
Speaker 6: able to apply those techniques so fast and without thinking

795
00:31:41,988 --> 00:31:42,388
Speaker 6: about it.

796
00:31:42,788 --> 00:31:45,308
Speaker 8: Tran, you played your first nine seasons for the Saints,

797
00:31:45,348 --> 00:31:47,668
Speaker 8: obviously had a ton of success, and your head coach.

798
00:31:47,468 --> 00:31:48,348
Speaker 9: With Sean Payton.

799
00:31:48,468 --> 00:31:51,908
Speaker 8: Now you're playing for another great offensive mine in Mike McDaniel.

800
00:31:51,988 --> 00:31:56,308
Speaker 8: Two very different personalities, but I can imagine there are

801
00:31:56,308 --> 00:31:59,148
Speaker 8: some similarities. What is one thing that Sean Payton and

802
00:31:59,188 --> 00:32:01,588
Speaker 8: Mike McDaniel have in common And I don't think it's

803
00:32:01,628 --> 00:32:03,108
Speaker 8: going to be their cadence and how they speak.

804
00:32:03,508 --> 00:32:07,588
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely some differences, but for sure similarities. I would

805
00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:12,028
Speaker 6: think the one most glaring similarity between the two would

806
00:32:12,028 --> 00:32:15,148
Speaker 6: be their attention to detail. Both are very particular where

807
00:32:15,188 --> 00:32:19,108
Speaker 6: they want people to be, the timing, the motion Mike.

808
00:32:19,308 --> 00:32:21,908
Speaker 2: Mike goes crazy on the receivers.

809
00:32:21,988 --> 00:32:25,148
Speaker 6: Tyreconcluded if if emotion isn't right or full speed, or

810
00:32:25,228 --> 00:32:27,708
Speaker 6: if it's a return motion, he don't get an and

811
00:32:27,708 --> 00:32:29,468
Speaker 6: and tap the hip of the tidy end before going.

812
00:32:29,508 --> 00:32:32,508
Speaker 6: But like very small details, and Sean was very particular

813
00:32:32,588 --> 00:32:34,908
Speaker 6: about the small things as well. That would be the

814
00:32:34,908 --> 00:32:37,748
Speaker 6: the one super close comparison I can make.

815
00:32:38,268 --> 00:32:38,428
Speaker 2: You know.

816
00:32:38,508 --> 00:32:40,708
Speaker 1: We talk about your head coach a lot, Mike McDaniel.

817
00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:42,868
Speaker 1: We talk about mc McDaniel constantly on the show. He's

818
00:32:42,868 --> 00:32:45,228
Speaker 1: in the running for being the best quote of all

819
00:32:45,308 --> 00:32:47,068
Speaker 1: the head coaches in the NFL. It might be Dan

820
00:32:47,148 --> 00:32:49,508
Speaker 1: Campbell but McDaniel is in the running. Was there a

821
00:32:49,508 --> 00:32:51,788
Speaker 1: moment as much football as you've played over the years

822
00:32:52,268 --> 00:32:54,948
Speaker 1: when you just realize, well, this coach is different. He

823
00:32:54,988 --> 00:32:58,188
Speaker 1: talks different, he presents different. Tell us the story about

824
00:32:58,228 --> 00:32:59,988
Speaker 1: when you knew that this was not your normal coach.

825
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Speaker 6: I I I would say that happened pretty early with uh.

826
00:33:03,508 --> 00:33:07,548
Speaker 6: With Mike, his just his demeanor, his approach, his sweat

827
00:33:08,828 --> 00:33:10,948
Speaker 6: and not a knock to Sean shine Pee at all,

828
00:33:10,988 --> 00:33:13,108
Speaker 6: that's my guy. But Mike got he got a swag

829
00:33:13,148 --> 00:33:16,308
Speaker 6: to him, he got a aura, a bottom, he got

830
00:33:16,348 --> 00:33:18,668
Speaker 6: an energy, a bottom as this it's just different than

831
00:33:18,668 --> 00:33:21,468
Speaker 6: any NFL coach I've been around. I've been with a

832
00:33:21,468 --> 00:33:24,468
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of great ones throughout my throughout

833
00:33:24,468 --> 00:33:27,828
Speaker 6: my career, but Mike just has a different approach and

834
00:33:27,908 --> 00:33:29,668
Speaker 6: the way that he sees the game and the way

835
00:33:29,668 --> 00:33:32,868
Speaker 6: that he communicates that just has a different feel.

836
00:33:33,188 --> 00:33:33,468
Speaker 7: Tron.

837
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Speaker 8: The last few weeks, it's been the Dolphins are rumored

838
00:33:36,468 --> 00:33:39,028
Speaker 8: for this running back, whether it was Dalvin Cook or

839
00:33:39,148 --> 00:33:41,508
Speaker 8: in the last couple of days, Jonathan Taylor, and yet

840
00:33:41,548 --> 00:33:43,428
Speaker 8: at the end of the day, it appears like the

841
00:33:43,468 --> 00:33:46,068
Speaker 8: Dolphins are going with their current running backs room. How

842
00:33:46,108 --> 00:33:48,508
Speaker 8: has that been going in the building when every day

843
00:33:48,588 --> 00:33:51,508
Speaker 8: Dalvin Cook or Jonathan Taylor is linked to your squad. Meanwhile,

844
00:33:51,548 --> 00:33:53,468
Speaker 8: you guys have a crew of guys that you feel

845
00:33:53,468 --> 00:33:56,428
Speaker 8: pretty confident with. What's the conversation internally when all these

846
00:33:56,508 --> 00:33:58,748
Speaker 8: rumors are linked to the Dolphins for other players outside

847
00:33:58,748 --> 00:33:59,188
Speaker 8: the building.

848
00:33:59,428 --> 00:34:01,628
Speaker 6: No, we try to control what we can control, and

849
00:34:01,908 --> 00:34:05,108
Speaker 6: that outside noise can be loud at times, But we're

850
00:34:05,108 --> 00:34:08,228
Speaker 6: focused on what we have here in the building, extremely

851
00:34:08,268 --> 00:34:10,748
Speaker 6: confident in our running back room and their ability and

852
00:34:11,188 --> 00:34:14,788
Speaker 6: different skill sets and attributes that these guys possess. You know,

853
00:34:14,828 --> 00:34:17,428
Speaker 6: we're all about bringing in great players for sure, you know.

854
00:34:17,468 --> 00:34:20,028
Speaker 6: So if it's great players out there that can come

855
00:34:20,068 --> 00:34:22,748
Speaker 6: help our team, I don't think anyone would be opposed

856
00:34:22,748 --> 00:34:24,548
Speaker 6: to that. I know for a fact anyone but wouldn't

857
00:34:24,588 --> 00:34:26,948
Speaker 6: be opposed. And I'm not just talking running back, any position.

858
00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,108
Speaker 6: You know, you get great players on on the roster,

859
00:34:29,188 --> 00:34:31,508
Speaker 6: that's what you want. But we focus on what we

860
00:34:31,508 --> 00:34:34,868
Speaker 6: can control, and we're working and we'll be ready for we.

861
00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:36,548
Speaker 4: Want as you always are, Toronto.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned to start, NFL Network continues to shine

863
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Speaker 3: a light on college football at HBCU's by Aaron games

864
00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:44,748
Speaker 3: here on NFL Network and NFL Plus this season.

865
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Speaker 4: You are an Arkansas Pine Bluff legend.

866
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Speaker 3: Tell us about your experience not only playing at but

867
00:34:50,348 --> 00:34:52,668
Speaker 3: also getting drafted out of an HBCU.

868
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Speaker 6: It was great my time at Arkansas Pine Bluff. I

869
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Speaker 6: wouldn't change a thing. Left with a with a SWAG Championship,

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Speaker 6: first ever Arkansas Pine Bluff history, so very, very proud

871
00:35:03,308 --> 00:35:05,948
Speaker 6: moment for me. One of the best moments of my life.

872
00:35:06,068 --> 00:35:09,188
Speaker 6: That experience just brought us really close together. Just having

873
00:35:09,228 --> 00:35:12,708
Speaker 6: that real tight knit group guys that I call my

874
00:35:12,748 --> 00:35:16,348
Speaker 6: brothers for life. The energy, the culture of the history

875
00:35:16,908 --> 00:35:20,788
Speaker 6: that the grace that played before myself and so many others.

876
00:35:21,428 --> 00:35:23,468
Speaker 6: It's just it's an amazing experience.

877
00:35:23,748 --> 00:35:25,468
Speaker 2: I love that for SWACK Championship.

878
00:35:25,468 --> 00:35:27,548
Speaker 7: It's nice to start tradition, to be the first to

879
00:35:27,548 --> 00:35:29,908
Speaker 7: do something and toron, why is it so important to

880
00:35:29,948 --> 00:35:31,788
Speaker 7: you to shine a light on all the talent that

881
00:35:31,828 --> 00:35:34,708
Speaker 7: are coming out of HBCUs so guys can follow on

882
00:35:34,748 --> 00:35:35,908
Speaker 7: the same footsteps as you have.

883
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:39,548
Speaker 6: It's so much talent down there, man, It's so much talent,

884
00:35:39,668 --> 00:35:42,588
Speaker 6: so many guys with different skill sets and abilities and

885
00:35:43,028 --> 00:35:46,828
Speaker 6: drive and work ethic that I won't say get forgotten,

886
00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:50,388
Speaker 6: because I feel like the NFL and the scouting department

887
00:35:50,428 --> 00:35:52,508
Speaker 6: of the NFL is doing a really good job of

888
00:35:53,228 --> 00:35:56,148
Speaker 6: seeking and finding those small school guys, those gems.

889
00:35:56,148 --> 00:35:57,348
Speaker 2: But I just want.

890
00:35:57,148 --> 00:36:00,148
Speaker 6: To continue to bring that awareness and get rid of

891
00:36:00,188 --> 00:36:03,748
Speaker 6: that narrative that the talent level is lower or it's

892
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:07,108
Speaker 6: special place is down there very special players as those

893
00:36:07,148 --> 00:36:11,108
Speaker 6: ahbcus guys that are very driven and and goal oriented,

894
00:36:11,308 --> 00:36:13,348
Speaker 6: that really go, really go.

895
00:36:13,308 --> 00:36:13,908
Speaker 2: And get after it.

896
00:36:14,148 --> 00:36:16,948
Speaker 3: That was the last time Arkansas Pine Bluff won a

897
00:36:17,028 --> 00:36:17,988
Speaker 3: SWACK championship.

898
00:36:18,108 --> 00:36:19,548
Speaker 4: Was and Tron Armstead was there.

899
00:36:19,588 --> 00:36:23,428
Speaker 3: It's fantastic games this weekend on NFL Network and NFL

900
00:36:23,428 --> 00:36:24,228
Speaker 3: Plus Tron.

901
00:36:24,268 --> 00:36:25,068
Speaker 4: We appreciate you.

902
00:36:25,228 --> 00:36:27,748
Speaker 3: Get healthy, stay healthy, man, good luck this season. We'll

903
00:36:27,788 --> 00:36:28,308
Speaker 3: talk to you again.

904
00:36:28,388 --> 00:36:30,188
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thank you.

905
00:36:31,308 --> 00:36:34,148
Speaker 4: Don't say that too loud. Our next guest is listening.

906
00:36:34,188 --> 00:36:37,068
Speaker 2: Most likely he meets them in the playoffs last year.

907
00:36:37,068 --> 00:36:39,828
Speaker 4: That's true. That is true. Sean McDermott coming on the show.

908
00:36:40,628 --> 00:36:43,668
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott's working kettlebells right now. Let's get it. Sean

909
00:36:44,028 --> 00:36:46,228
Speaker 2: to get that lift in baby after dermott

910
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Speaker 8: Think he's watching all the Jets on Hard knocks, I'm

911
00:36:48,348 --> 00:36:48,468
Speaker 8: right