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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your guide to

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Speaker 1: Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host, Mark Kenyon.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. This week on

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm joined by Dan Johnson to discuss the

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Speaker 2: particularly challenging whitetail rut that we both just experienced and

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Speaker 2: our ideas and strategies for the weeks to come. All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by First Life and their Camel for Conservation initiative.

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Speaker 2: And today I am joined by my good buddy, mister

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Speaker 2: Dan Johnson, and we are going to be discussing and

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Speaker 2: breaking down kind of oh, I guess, like a Monday

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Speaker 2: morning quarterback kind of session on the rut, what we

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Speaker 2: just experienced here in November of twenty twenty four, the

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Speaker 2: hunts that we had, the experiences that we had, some

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Speaker 2: thoughts on why we and so many other people thought

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Speaker 2: this was such a weird, slow, bizarre.

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Speaker 3: Challenging rut for so many of us.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to discuss that, kind of discuss some

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Speaker 2: of the different thoughts that we had on what we

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Speaker 2: personally saw as well as some higher level maybe impacts

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Speaker 2: that are kind of hitting folks across the board. And

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Speaker 2: then we're also going to talk through some of the

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Speaker 2: things that worked, some of the things that led to

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Speaker 2: Dan having success, so we get a success story for

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Speaker 2: Daniel Johnson here in November. And then finally we're going

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Speaker 2: to walk through some of our thoughts on what all

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Speaker 2: this means for the future, how we can take some

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Speaker 2: of these lessons learned and apply them to the weeks

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Speaker 2: to come. And this kind of second maybe it's more

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Speaker 2: like the third, the last third of the season, maybe

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Speaker 2: second half, maybe last third of the season, whatever it is,

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Speaker 2: We're we're on the downward slope. We are past mid November.

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Speaker 2: We are entering a different phase of the year, and

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Speaker 2: it's been a weird one for me, as Dan and

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Speaker 2: I will talk about, it's been a doozy.

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Speaker 3: I've had some just.

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Speaker 2: Funky, strange things going on, both hunting and outside of hunting.

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Speaker 2: So I'm personally ready to move on. I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: move into a new part of the year. Trying to

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Speaker 2: feel good, trying to have fun, trying to be healthy,

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Speaker 2: and make the best of the rest of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four season. So that's what we've got in store.

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Speaker 2: I will just give you one very quick heads up,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to belabor the point anymore. So thanks

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Speaker 2: for being here. I hope you all have an incredible Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I hope today is a day if you are listening

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Speaker 2: on the day this launches, where you are spending time

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Speaker 2: with friends and family and appreciating the many blessings that

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Speaker 2: we all have and the incredible opportunity that we have

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Speaker 2: here as hunters.

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Speaker 3: So I'll also just note that I.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, appreciate you all tuning in being a part

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Speaker 2: of this community and being good stewards of our traditions,

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Speaker 2: our resources, and all those wild critters out there. So,

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Speaker 2: without any further ado, let's get to my chat with

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Speaker 2: Dan Johnson as we recap the twenty twenty four rut

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Speaker 2: and our thoughts were moving forward. All right here with

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Speaker 2: me on the line for a much needed therapy session,

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Speaker 2: is my good buddy, mister Dan Johnson.

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Speaker 3: How the hell are you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Your therapy is and understatement, my friend, Uh, have you

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Speaker 4: ever woke up? Or maybe it's when you wake up?

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's when you Usually it's when I go to

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Speaker 4: bed where I feel And this is a sick joke,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you have no idea how much I can

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Speaker 2: I'm going through a weird thing right now where I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So, is there a major decision you're about to make

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Speaker 3: No, it's it.

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Speaker 2: There's actually I think there's a reason I'm taking some

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Speaker 2: medicine for some weird health issues I've been going through

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Speaker 2: and then I think those two things combined have led

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Speaker 3: It's like the wheels keep spinning and spinning and spinning,

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Speaker 2: It's not like I'm worrying about any specific thing other

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Speaker 3: Why can't I sleep? What's wrong with me?

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Speaker 4: Yep? I have two solutions that your doctor will probably

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Speaker 4: argue against. But though, yeah, one is bourbon AH and

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Speaker 4: the other one is THHC. So so I'm telling you, dude,

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Speaker 4: you put a little bit of gummy in your mouth

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Speaker 4: thirty minutes you will be going to sleep. I gain

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Speaker 4: almost guarantee it.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're not the first person to recommend that

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Speaker 4: I think I know who the other person is.

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Speaker 2: So I very well might consider that it's twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: It's a brand new world that's totally in the wheelhouse exactly. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's all sorts of the last

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Speaker 2: Last five weeks have been one of the weirdest five

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot to cover as far as hunting

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Speaker 2: and what's been going on, because I think other than

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Speaker 2: just my general weird stuff that's going on, there's also

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we're biased to always thinking like what's happening right

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a freak like a recency bias, I

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Speaker 4: Yep. And this isn't just something that you and I

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Speaker 4: and the traditional Midwestern rut from about Nebraska to the

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Speaker 4: East coast. I am getting hundreds of people responding to

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Speaker 4: and so it's not just us.

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Speaker 2: It makes you feel a little better, yes, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have not seen I've not seen a single buck

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Speaker 2: It just like bucks kind of doing the march. Yep,

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Speaker 2: that's all I've seen. And I have not seen a

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Speaker 3: No, that takes back. I have three mature buck pictures

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Speaker 4: I was trying to find it email someone sent me

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Speaker 3: El Sheimer and moon. You think the moon theory.

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Speaker 4: Not necessarily moon, but he it was something about a

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Speaker 4: it basically has told me that there dose were not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's recap real quick, yep, kind of what our

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Speaker 2: that means for us going forward. We're going to try

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Speaker 2: got stuff after this. But you have at least a

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Speaker 2: happy ending to some of your story. Yeah, so I'll

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, I haven't seen a mature buck since October fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: I think it was or fifteenth or whenever it was.

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Speaker 2: I killed that buck in mid October in southern Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Since then, I have hunted my normal southern Michigan properties

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Speaker 2: that I've hunted for years, the ones that I talked

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Speaker 2: about with you this summer where I had two bucks

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Speaker 2: I was after, and then I've hunted Kentucky public land,

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Speaker 2: and then a really quick trip to Illinois. That was

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Speaker 2: a quick kind of turnaround bust. But the big things

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Speaker 2: where I've been after those two deer, and it turned

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Speaker 2: into three deer. Actually, the headline of the story there

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Speaker 3: Or a non existent deer.

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Speaker 2: It seems like I've never had something quite I've never

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Speaker 2: So I feel like, probably a good chance that deer

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Speaker 2: Excited about this big old bodied buck Bulldozer and he

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Speaker 3: I went and.

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Speaker 2: I should have have got these things on a piece

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Speaker 3: I've permission on.

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Speaker 2: Tons of daylight everywhere, same thing the year before, and

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Speaker 2: And that's from you know, fifty times last year, fifty

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a five year old totally change. Usually

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Speaker 2: I usually get to learn them more, and I know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this deer really likes this zone.

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Speaker 3: This dear really likes this zone.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I can think is maybe that his

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Speaker 2: to make a long story short, with this area, I've

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Speaker 2: and just seeing nothing but dozing young bucks, dozen young bucks,

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Speaker 2: I have searched into new places. I've moved cameras into

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Speaker 3: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: So I'm running out of I'm running out of ideas

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Speaker 2: with this. I'm kind of down to three thoughts with

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Speaker 3: YadA. The second thought.

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Speaker 2: Is to just wait and basically hope that something's going

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Speaker 2: that once we finally get a really good cold front

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Speaker 3: And again one of the one, the one.

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Speaker 2: just might be that there just isn't mature bucks now.

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Speaker 2: One of them, I feel pretty confidence is probably the case.

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Speaker 2: The other one I haven't seen since November ninth. It's

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Speaker 2: now like November twenty sixth or twenty seventh or something now,

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Speaker 2: So they just there just might not be a mature

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Speaker 2: So maybe these other people are walking right through that

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Speaker 3: That could be a thing.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing is that, like I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: probably pulling a lot of deer activity in an area

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Speaker 2: But that maybe has changed some behavior, and maybe deer

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Speaker 3: Pieces.

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Speaker 2: So one thought though, is that if I continue waiting,

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Speaker 2: are still alive, or maybe some other bucks gonna move in.

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Speaker 2: Maybe because I have left most of my property pretty untouched,

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Speaker 2: maybe that gun season sanctuary that I've talked about in.

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Speaker 3: The past will work.

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Speaker 2: You know, we leave it kind of untouched and everybody

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Speaker 2: else hunting all around me. Hopefully they would feel comfortable

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Speaker 2: that's still alive starts moving. I've not hunted my pieces

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Speaker 2: kind of where I'm at right now as far as

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Speaker 3: That's what's happening.

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Speaker 4: I got a question, mark, I got questions, all right.

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Speaker 4: Question is this is a long question. Iowa dry all

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Speaker 4: August dry the first part of September. They did get

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Speaker 4: lots of beans out in Iowa. But as they because

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Speaker 4: usually beans get combined first in your area, is there

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Speaker 4: a lot of standing corn because during harvest there was

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Speaker 2: We do not have that problem Okay, everything came out

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Speaker 3: Of dirt around if anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Iowa, my farms, the counties that I hunt, I

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Speaker 4: mean we're talking beans got out, okay, but right when

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Speaker 4: And so we had a scenario where right has it

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Speaker 4: started to dry out? And it was substantial rain to

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Speaker 4: Most of my main farm was in beans this year,

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Speaker 4: and they just didn't pick them. But the deer are

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Speaker 4: And so I think that that played potentially has a

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Speaker 4: we have standing crop, we have potential illness, and then

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Speaker 4: just a variety of hunting pressures as well. I'll mirror

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Speaker 4: the sentiment that you shared with October thirty first one

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Speaker 4: Who yeah, so they all showed back up. So essentially

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Speaker 4: I was hunting ghosts right Like, I didn't have trail camera,

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Speaker 4: I didn't see him on the hoof. And this is

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Speaker 4: And and I don't know, man, it just it was

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Speaker 4: a wonky year. Like I'll say this again. I rattled

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Speaker 4: he showed up. But guess what else? I rattled in

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Speaker 4: a frickin horse on one of the horses that are

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Speaker 4: so that buck was coming straight to me, but so

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Speaker 4: I want to say sixty yards. I had no shot

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Speaker 4: and I wasn't going to take that uphill through thickness.

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Speaker 3: And did you have a shot at the horse?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, thought trust me, I thought about it.

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Speaker 4: I thought about it. And so this horse has been

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Speaker 4: period respond to grunting, calling, snort, wheezing, anything, man, not

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Speaker 4: even a dumb two year old came in to investigate

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Speaker 2: And I swear to God, it's it's so funny you

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Speaker 2: to grunt to any deer in Michigan because I haven't

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00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: seen a single deer I'm interested in shooting. But when

441
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: I went to Kentucky, I was there and I was

442
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: hunting public land, all brand new stuff. Had never set

443
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: foot on any of this stuff. So it was basically

444
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: like if any buck I would shoot, and I did

445
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: see some deer, and I called to a bunch of

446
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: them in zero interest from anything. I mean, I couldn't

447
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: grunt in a one and a half year old, couldn't

448
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: grunt in the possible three or four year olds I saw.

449
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: So again, I mean, this is all anecdotal, it's probably random,

450
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: but it just has been such a strange year, and

451
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know how to hand I don't know how

452
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: to handle that other than just try to like press

453
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: on and try not to get frustrated by Yeah.

454
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: So, so two things I'll add to this right. Number one,

455
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: there is a recession proof type of conversation that I

456
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: definitely think that needs to be had, and that is

457
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: the people who hunt on managed properties with food plots

458
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: have the ability to do habitat improvement, hingecutting things like that.

459
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: They did not. And this is the people that I've

460
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: talked to. They did not see the disparity that many

461
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: of us saw. Okay, so, if you have the ability

462
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: to plant food plots, plant, and I mean substantial food plots,

463
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about like the quarter acre clover vidield stuff, Yeah,

464
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: that's on ten acres. I'm talking about the ability to

465
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 4: manage a property they didn't see that. They didn't see that,

466
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: and so maybe that has something to do with it, right,

467
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 4: And then just from I don't know, like there was

468
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: something else I was going to mention about the I

469
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: got a brain fart here, but it had it had

470
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: to do with like basically no three year olds. Right.

471
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 4: There was people claiming that they saw the four year

472
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: olds and older, and then the two year olds and younger.

473
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: But there was a gap this year that and I

474
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: saw one or maybe two three year olds this year.

475
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: And usually I'm seeing a real, real good like next

476
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: year's bucks pop up, and so this year I saw

477
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: some you know, I saw good two year olds. I

478
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: actually passed probably a low one fifties, high one forties.

479
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: I was at full draw with him and I was like,

480
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: he's three, definitely a young body. And I down and

481
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: let them walk, knowing or and that was like day three,

482
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: knowing that I potentially had other deer in the area.

483
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: And so I don't know, man, I am okay, and

484
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: a lot of it. Usually I have a sliding scale

485
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: definitely when I go on my out of state trips.

486
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: But this year I set at bar really high in Iowa,

487
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: and I held that this year, my goal was to

488
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: shoot fill four tags, two tags in Iowa, my South

489
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 4: Dakota tag and I did it, and my Kansas tag

490
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 4: and I did it. This year. I had high standards

491
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: for Iowa. Could I have filled my tags, yes, but

492
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: I want something that is baseline or higher than that,

493
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: basically what's in my basement. And so I had high

494
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: standards and I held to them.

495
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: So we've been doing this a long time.

496
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 4: Yep.

497
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: We've been doing the Rout Marathon and talking about it

498
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: here together for I don't know, ten to fifteen years

499
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: something like that.

500
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: We've been through a bunch of these How these days?

501
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: How are you dealing these days with that Rout grind

502
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: when it turns sour the way it has for so

503
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: many of us this year, when it's been slow, when

504
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: it's tough. I mean again, you know, I've been wrestling

505
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: with this this year. It's like, jeez, it's just been brutal. Yeah,

506
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: But I feel like I'm older and wiser now I

507
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: should be able to deal with that better and recover

508
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: from that better and not take it so hard. Some

509
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: days I do, some days I don't. I'm curious where

510
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: you're at with that now and now that we're approaching the.

511
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: End of November. Where your head's at right.

512
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: Now, That's a great question, because I was less frustrated

513
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: and more curious and confused and wanting to know the

514
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: answer of why the deer movement and deer behavior was

515
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: so strange and less like, oh my god, because Mark,

516
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: there were days that went by where I did not

517
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: have a deer within shooting range yep, and I was,

518
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: you know, and that's the thing, Like, you know, we talked,

519
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: we talk about the strategy standpoint where I'm not hunting

520
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: field edges anymore. So I'm not seeing like ten, fifteen,

521
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: twenty deer in a single set. But I'm not having

522
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: button bucks, young fawns, spike antler deer. I'm not having

523
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: them in front of me. And when I'm not, when

524
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: I have consistency over the course of a decade and

525
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden we have a massive change

526
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: that happens, I am my frustration turns to curiosity and

527
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, something has to something has changed. I

528
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: want to know what it is. And then you get

529
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: in your car and you drive around the sections and

530
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, well they're standing corn here, and you

531
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: start to look at precipitation levels, you start to look

532
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: at drought. You start to hear rumors because hunters they

533
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: bitch the most out of anybody that I know, right,

534
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 4: and I'm one of them, where I just I'm like, Jesus,

535
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: what is wrong here? What is wrong here? But most

536
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: of the time it's just shitty hunters complaining. Some of

537
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: the best hunters. And what I mean shitty hunters, I

538
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: mean the guys who the weekend warriors, right, and maybe

539
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: they're not shitty, but the guys who have less time

540
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: in the field than we do, right. And so you

541
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: start to hear guys like that who become frustrated. But

542
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: then something happens when you have guys who are spending

543
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: multiple weeks in the field and they are they're starting

544
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: to be curious and confused, and they're starting to get

545
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: frustrated because when you say to guys like us, it's

546
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: just a matter of time, right, it's just a matter

547
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: of time till something shows up, nothing shows up, and

548
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: nothing shows up, and then you're not seeing you're not

549
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: having the encounters with three year olds and two year

550
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: olds that you typically have. The only person who's not

551
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: affected by this somehow is Andy May that son of

552
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: a bitch, Like I love that guy, but I hate

553
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: him at the same time because he gets it done

554
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: no matter what, and so I wish I had a

555
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: little bit of his mojo, that dude can find him

556
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: and kill him. But I also think that you know,

557
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: when the honey holes dry up, and maybe it's maybe

558
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: there is something to what we've already discussed, or maybe

559
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: it's just you know, the timber, it starts to grow

560
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: up and get thicker in certain areas and deer patterns shift,

561
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: and I don't know, maybe it's one of those things

562
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: as well, and then I need to shift as well.

563
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: But when you have ten to fifteen to twenty years

564
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: of experience on a farm, it'll usually allows you to

565
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: have a good indication of deer behavior and movement and

566
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: to features and things like that. And as again, I'm

567
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: just beating a dead horse, but it was off.

568
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: So how are you handling that? Mentally?

569
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: Though?

570
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: I guess it's like, what's your advice? Now you've shifted

571
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: a little bit from being less frustrated more just curious,

572
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: But how are you handling that in the moment when

573
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: you've hunted Iowa day after day after day after day

574
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: after day in incredible places and not seeing anything at

575
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: all like you're supposed to. Yeah, what's the Dan Johnson

576
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: mental game in twenty twenty four.

577
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: Well, the mental game is to accept that there is

578
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: a change and to accept the fact that I'll be

579
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: honest man, unless it's close to home. I've spent a

580
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: week at in South Dakota. I spent basically fourteen days

581
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: hunting Iowa off and on right. I had a couple

582
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: where I had to come home for some meetings and

583
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 4: some conferences or something like that, and then come back

584
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: and then I went back to I hunted like three

585
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: extra days at four extra days in Iowa. Then I

586
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: left for Kansas for a week. So for me, I've

587
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: used my time right, So I don't necessarily think that

588
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: I am going to be able to get out and

589
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: hit it again just from a time like I'm back

590
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: into dad mode. Now I'm back into work mode. Now

591
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: here's what I will say. I got home and two

592
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: of my bucks showed up November twentieth on my farm

593
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: and now they are basically parading in front of my

594
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: cell cams on a daily basis. That farm is four

595
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: hours away from where I live, so I just I'm

596
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: not going to be able to go do it. Like

597
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: if I told my wife today, hey listen, she would

598
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: probably go, oh, okay, she'd accept it. She wouldn't divorce

599
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: me because we're too far into the marriage, but she

600
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: would be extremely unhappy with that decision to go do it.

601
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 4: And so well, it's just something. The rut was in

602
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 4: Gravy this year, right, it just felt like it was slow,

603
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: and it happened the trust me deer getting bred somewhere.

604
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: The bucks have started to show back up on some

605
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: of my farms, and I really do think if I

606
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: did have more time to get out there and hunt,

607
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: I would start going into staging areas. I would go

608
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: into terrain features because I do think they're still cruising

609
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: right now, and I would not be afraid to hit

610
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: a rattle. Probably maybe not right away in the morning.

611
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: I would wait for the doze to come through and

612
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: get settled, and then I would crack the horns sometime

613
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: late morning or even early in an afternoon set, and

614
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: that's what I would do. I would be monitoring trail

615
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: cameras more often now to try to get something pegged

616
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: down before the shotgun seasons. Or any time a firearm season,

617
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: and then I would basically let the firearm season happen.

618
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 4: I would go like, if for everybody here, they're probably

619
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: going to participate in some kind of firearm season, go

620
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: do that. But if not, like me, I'm not going

621
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 4: to participate in the shotgun seasons. I would wait and

622
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: not put any pressure on any of the properties that

623
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: I have access to hunt, and then I would wait

624
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: for the late season at that point to see if

625
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: there is a shift in you know, the shotgun set.

626
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: The shotgun and firearm seasons usually leave a heavy footprint

627
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: on the landscape. There's going to be some shifting that

628
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: goes on, some patterns that go on and over that

629
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: period of time, you have the the crops. Like now,

630
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: I always say this, I want the crops to come out,

631
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: come out, come out, come out. But right now I

632
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: don't want any more crops to come out until the

633
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 4: season's over because what that does is that's just the

634
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: giant beacon for deer at that point.

635
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I hope I answered your question. It did

636
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: to to a degree.

637
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: I'll tag onto that and just you know, when it

638
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: comes to where my head has been at as this

639
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: month has progressed, you know, went from you know, super

640
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: high hopes, and you know, I was there was a

641
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: really nice buck running around down here that I thought

642
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: might be a three year old, might be a four

643
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: year old, so I was on the fence about him,

644
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: but I kept thinking, man, my big guys are going

645
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: to show back up.

646
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: My big guys are gonna show back up.

647
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: So I didn't even get after that bucket all didn't

648
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: even try to hunt that deer. In retrospect, I wish

649
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I had, because I ended up being the best deer

650
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: that's been around here all year. But but I went

651
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: from high hopes early to that slowly disappearing and towards

652
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: the end, and where I'm at now, I've started kind

653
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: of falling back onto something you said, which is acceptance

654
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: to a degree and just accepting like, hey, this might

655
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: just be one of those years that it isn't everything

656
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: you hoped it would be.

657
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: And you can do one of two things.

658
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: You can either be miserable about it and bitch about

659
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: it and complain about it and feel bad about it,

660
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: or you can accept, hey, this wasn't what you wanted.

661
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: How do you make the most of it? Moving forward?

662
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: And so and so I'm trying to lean in that direction.

663
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: So I'm accepting, Yeah, this wasn't what I wanted.

664
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: What would it? What would this look like though? To

665
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: have a really fun rest of the season.

666
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

667
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: So so part of that is doing the things I mentioned, Like,

668
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: I'm still searching for these bucks. I'm still waiting and

669
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: hoping that, you know, come late season, there's gonna be

670
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: these changes and that they show back up. So I'm

671
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: not going to explode my spots and ruin them now,

672
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm gonna keep observing, scouting, watching, doing

673
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: a you know, a couple little hunts like I'm doing

674
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: here today. But then also I'm getting pretty close to

675
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: switching gears and getting to taking the kids hunting and

676
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: shooting does and just doing like the simple fun stuff

677
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: like inviting a bunch of friends out to go have

678
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: a dough night and have a good time and do

679
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff that's less pressure filled that I

680
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: can do no matter what. It doesn't matter that there's

681
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: not a mature buck around, because hey, we can go

682
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: out there and do something really important, which is manage

683
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: the dos, have a ton of fun doing it, spend

684
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: time with your buddies or your kids. Like, I'm very

685
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: close to flipping the switch and shifting that way all

686
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: the way, or at least starting doing that on like

687
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: my outside exterior areas and leave a couple core places

688
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: alone with hopes that something shows. But but yeah, I'm

689
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: leaning more and more towards you know, I've been asking

690
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: myself this question throughout recent years, especially this year, whenever

691
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: I find myself stressed or frustrated with how the hunt's

692
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: going and stuff, I'll ask myself, you know, what would

693
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: this look like if it were fun? So, like, what's

694
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: the fun version of this? Yeah, and so the fun

695
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: version might be, you know what, I'm not gonna hunt

696
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: all day to day. I'm miserable, I'm frustrated, this sucks.

697
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the I'm taking an hour and I'm

698
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: gonna go get lunch and I'm gonna feel good again

699
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: and then I'll be happy and we'll the rest of

700
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: the day. Or maybe it's Hey, you know what, I'm

701
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: not going to do a running gun set at three

702
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: in the morning into a brand new place. I'm actually

703
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: gonna I'm actually gonna slip in at gray light and

704
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: glass and scout my way in and that'll be kind

705
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: of fun and different and it'll be a change of pace.

706
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm just allowing myself a little bit

707
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: more flexibility in what I'm doing and how I'm doing.

708
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: It to try to.

709
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: You know.

710
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: You know, we've talked about this endlessly over the years,

711
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: like keep this from being like a military mission and

712
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: instead of being like, hey, this is supposed to be fun,

713
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: do the thing that makes it fun. Yeah, work hard, yeah,

714
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: do the right stuff. But you can take it too far.

715
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 2: And so that's constantly walking that line. And so this

716
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: year my question that I've been like, the little phrase

717
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: has been like what would this look like if it

718
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: were fun? And then I'll be, oh, yeah, it would

719
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: be chilling the f out and you know, doing this

720
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: or doing this, or you know what, taking this afternoon

721
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: off and picking up the kids from school because you've

722
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: missed the kids and that would make you feel better

723
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: or whatever it is.

724
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: And those things have helped.

725
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: And I think this, you know, looking forward into the

726
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: next month of hunting, that's really going to be where

727
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of my mental time and my energy.

728
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: So one thing that we didn't talk about was and

729
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: I just want to briefly mention it because I do

730
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 4: think it's important. And that was over the state of Iowa,

731
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: we had this stagnant low pressure where throughout the course

732
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: of the first two weeks in November, usually what happens

733
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: is I pray for an east wind, and I'm like,

734
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 4: give me one east wind every or a front comes through,

735
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: and that's going to give me an east wind. I

736
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 4: had six days in a row of east winds.

737
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Wasn't that weird?

738
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: We did too, and so we had this crazy thing

739
00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: happen where my farm is a vertical rectangle and on

740
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: the west side of it is where all the cover is.

741
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: So in order for me to hunt that farm on

742
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: an east wind, I have to go through cover morning

743
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: and afternoon to get to the stand locations so that

744
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: that wind blows out into a pasture. And that's pretty

745
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 4: intrusive when you're walking through, you know, timber, two times

746
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: a day in order to hunt that property. Could I

747
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: done it a little different, probably, but that would have

748
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 4: meant I was also extremely aggressive on my wind, and

749
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: I just wasn't. I didn't want to do it right.

750
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: And so the other thing I want to mention real

751
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: quick is a lot of this has to do with

752
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 4: like filling a tag. And so I have my Iowa

753
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: buck Archery buck tag, and I think that having it

754
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: is making me want to fill it, Okay, And so

755
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: something cool has happened over the course of the last

756
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: couple months, and I got connected with a group of

757
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: people who own a vineyard near where I live, and

758
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: they have suffered a ton of a vine damage because

759
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: of deer and the deer eat the grapes throughout the summer.

760
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: They chew on the vines and they're they're basically it's

761
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: a what it's that called a depredation tag. It's depredatd

762
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: you know, it's depredation to their crop. And so they

763
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 4: have started allowing people, basically employees to hunt that area. Well,

764
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: they invited me to come out and hunt, because basically

765
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: they're like, well, you're not some Joe Schmo, you actually

766
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: have accuracy. We don't want you know, dead deer or

767
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: some Well. This year, this year, I did. This year,

768
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 4: I did. Uh, But it's gonna be cool because I

769
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 4: have no problem putting my tag on some spike buck.

770
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 4: It's five miles from my house, uh it is. It

771
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: would just that and then I could fill my tag.

772
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: I could get the meat, and then my tag's fill

773
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: and then the only thing I have to worry about

774
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: is a potential late season tag. And so it would

775
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: be it would be cool to just get rid of

776
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: that tag and then I don't even have to worry

777
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: about my archery buck anymore, you know what I mean?

778
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: Man, There's something to be said about how refreshing it

779
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: is to change your standards for a hunt sometimes, Like

780
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: some people are very militant about that and like you

781
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: should never do that, but again, like who cares about

782
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: how big a dear you shoot, how old a deer

783
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: you shoot, whatever. If you're not enjoying yourself, if this

784
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 2: is not bringing you joy, then you got to change

785
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: it up. And the like for me, like when I

786
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: switch to dough season and you go out there hunting

787
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: and you know, like, man, any dough that comes in range,

788
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: it's game on.

789
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so fun.

790
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Or even when I was in Kentucky it was really

791
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: hard and frustrating and all those things, but it was

792
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: still exciting in moments because I was like, hey, you

793
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna shoot.

794
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: Any buck that's like half decent.

795
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: And so I was almost doing a full draw on

796
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: a couple of deer that I would never even blink at,

797
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, here at home. But there, it made it

798
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: a whole heck of a lot more fun than it

799
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: could have been because I realized, Hey, this is a

800
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: new situation, tough terrain, tough stuff. Let's go have some

801
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: fun with it. And that definitely helped. So if you're

802
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: in a funk, you should not at all feel like

803
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: you are beholden to some standard that is set by

804
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: the Internet, or set by a TV, or set by

805
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: your hunting buddies. Just do the thing that's exciting and

806
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: fun in the moment that can cure a whole lot

807
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: of ills.

808
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and I think, to be honest, Mark, what

809
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna start seeing more out of me is a

810
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: dude who's filling tags because I like the grind to

811
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: a certain extent, but I also like, you know, I

812
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: hope this doesn't sound bad, but I like killing deer, dude,

813
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: and I like putting that meat in my freezer. And

814
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 4: I got what's fun about my non resident trips Kansas

815
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: and South Dakota. They were so much fun because I

816
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: wasn't I didn't care one bit about Okay, this buck's

817
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: a three year old, I think, actually, the buck that

818
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: I shot this year, would I have passed him in Iowa? Probably,

819
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: But he was a three. He's a big three year old.

820
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 4: If he's a three year old, he's a four year old.

821
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: Whatever the case is. My uncle thinks he's four. The

822
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 4: other guy he hunts with thinks he's three. I don't

823
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 4: give a shit. I turned around, I saw his G

824
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: two and I said, he's toast. And he came in

825
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: in ten yards and I smoked him and it was fun.

826
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: Like that whole thing was fun. There was no standards,

827
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: like I passed small deer because I felt I needed

828
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: to because my uncle hunts in a place where they

829
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: have good quality deer, and so I felt like it

830
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: was my responsibility to hold to that standard somewhat. But

831
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: I told him like, hey, man, I'm probably gonna shoot

832
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: a three rolled off your farm if if I have

833
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: the opportunities, Like, dude, go for it, right. And so

834
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: this year was a ton of fun because I did

835
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: have the non resident trips and then I was able

836
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: to hold to a certain standard in Iowa. But that's

837
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: because but what I think, what you're going to start

838
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: seeing out of me is there's certain deer that can

839
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: get big. And then there's deer that probably you know,

840
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: if you got a if you got one hundred and

841
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 4: twenty inch three year old, there's gonna be years where

842
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be shooting. I don't want to say management

843
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: bucks because I think that's goofy. I will say lower

844
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: genetic bucks to fill the tag, to get the meat,

845
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 4: and to put that euro on my wall because knowing

846
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: you know, like it's going to take that buck off

847
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: the landscape, there's gonna be less pressure for the genetically

848
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 4: superior deer. Uh. And so on top of that, dude

849
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: shooting deer's fun.

850
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: Man shooting ear's fun.

851
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about that Kansas hunt real quick before

852
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: we get to go, because we haven't covered that.

853
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: You had the rough Iowa, but Kansas, you turn it around.

854
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's a six hour drive or excuse me,

855
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 4: seven hour drive from where I live to get to

856
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: where I hunted in Kansas. And so my stepdad was

857
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: talking to me about it. My uncle in the past,

858
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 4: he's been talking to me about it, and he's like,

859
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 4: you're not going to see the number of deer that

860
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: you saw that you typically see in Iowa. Iowa. And

861
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 4: I'm like Okay, week before I go, my uncle sends

862
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: me a picture. He dropped one hundred and eighty inch

863
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: nine pointer with two flyers off his g Two's an

864
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: absolute slammer, five or six year old. And so it's

865
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: a buck that they passed the previous year and the

866
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 4: other hunter missed it. And so long story short, like

867
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: they hunt in an area. I'm telling you Mark that

868
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: it's not a ton of deer, and it surprises me

869
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 4: because they hunt on like thousands and thousands of acres

870
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: that are that have maybe seventy total acres of huntable

871
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: space unless you have a rifle. There are zero deer

872
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: on this farm until they take the cattle out in

873
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 4: late October. Once they get the cattle out, the rancher

874
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: locks the gates, and then the deer come into it

875
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: from the surrounding areas. Okay, they're somewhere, but they're not

876
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: on this farm. And so you have seventy to one

877
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 4: hundred acres of huntable space and it's just little fingers

878
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 4: of cedars, black locusts, and osage orne trees, scrub trees.

879
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: I was in a tree stand at one point that

880
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: was eight feet off the ground right and I was

881
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 4: probably ten feet off the ground when I shot my buck,

882
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 4: So you're not getting high at all. Saddle Like, saddle

883
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: hunting is great, but I went back to like this

884
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 4: pure basic fun like I was climbing up ladder stands. Dude,

885
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: you know how long it's been. It's been twelve too,

886
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 4: I bet you. The last time I hunted a ladder

887
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: stand would have been the late two thousand's, early twenty tens.

888
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: Like, oh easy.

889
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: Oh. There was one point where I they had that

890
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: little thing that you could fold out, and I was real,

891
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: I was straight, I was leaning all the way back.

892
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: I could take naps in that thing. Oh dude, it

893
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: was awesome.

894
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:25,959
Speaker 3: Huh.

895
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: And the baiting thing, right, So I did hunt over

896
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 4: bait a couple hunts, and so that was something different

897
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: and unique to experience. And that's a whole nother conversation, uh,

898
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 4: as far as that type of strategy. But it was

899
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: so I that's a long way of saying, I got

900
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 4: down there fully expecting to not see any deer, fully

901
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: expecting to and really what it was is just a

902
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: continuation of what had I had seen the last handful

903
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: of weeks, very slow like, so it wasn't like this

904
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: huge drop off of movement or a huge drop off

905
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: of deer movement. I was seeing young bucks, I was

906
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: seeing doze. I was seeing you know, some even some two,

907
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: maybe some three year old deer past some you know,

908
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty inch eight pointer or excuse me,

909
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty inch would have been a nine pointer.

910
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 4: I think he was. You can tell he's young. Plenty

911
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: of deer. And my uncle is just telling me, like, dude,

912
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: out here, deer just show up, So you put time

913
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: in the stand and you're gonna see deer. And we

914
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: bounced around to a river bottom ground that had egg

915
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: in it, flat as a pancake, and then most of

916
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: the time we had to wait again. We had to

917
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: wait for a wind shift. We were getting tons of

918
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 4: east and southern type hunts. We had a big front

919
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: come through wind and rain and things like that. And

920
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, here comes a day with

921
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: a bright sunshine any northwest winds, and that's the day

922
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: that I killed my butt.

923
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: So in the setup was like one of these little fingers.

924
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: Yep, it was. It was a crick bottom that was

925
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: probably fifty yards wide, and there was cedars and thickets

926
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: and the cattle had been in there all year, so

927
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: it was stomped flat and you could see forever this

928
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 4: under this canopy where it was like, I want to say,

929
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 4: six to six to ten feet tall, and then nothing

930
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 4: below it because that cattle had stomped stomped it down

931
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 4: and rubbed against all the trees, and there wasn't a

932
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: ton of vegetation under there, but it's still cover and

933
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: that's where they were hanging out. And so I was

934
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 4: along this creek bed and it was just the perfect

935
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: funnel where all of these hills kind of came all

936
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 4: these this pasture came down to this crick bottom, and

937
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: then the crick curved on like a half circle to

938
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: the north and came back to the south. And all

939
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: it did was just create this perfect pinch point. So

940
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: I got into the stand, I got to the bottom

941
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: of the So two days previous we set it up

942
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: no bait. We basically were just hunting a pinch point,

943
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 4: and so we had to wait for that front to

944
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: come through. And then the front came through an afternoon hunt.

945
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 4: We finally got our northwest wind. I climbed up in

946
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: it and I dropped my ozonics out of the tree

947
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: at two o'clock. I climbed up, dropped my ozonics down

948
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: out of the tree, climbed down, climbed back up, and

949
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 4: I slipped off of my PSA where your safety harness

950
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: or your lineman's belt, because it saved I don't know

951
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: what would have happened to me. I wasn't very high

952
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 4: off the ground, but still I have a huge scratch

953
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: on my knee, and I had a puncture wound on

954
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: my inside of my leg from the other stand. If

955
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: it wasn't for a pair of pants getting snagged on it,

956
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 4: I don't know what would have happened. I had my

957
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: lineman's belt on, but I would have went straight down anyway.

958
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 4: I climbed back up, sit, you know, like I got

959
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: my saddle on. I'm sitting back, put my hat on,

960
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: and I'm getting ready to record something on my phone

961
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 4: and I hear a single snap. I look back. He's

962
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 4: at twenty five thirty yards, stood up, drew back, and

963
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: I had put an arrow in him at two fifteen.

964
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: So I was in the stand fifteen minutes when he

965
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: showed up and was cruising that bottom and shot him

966
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: right in the heart and watched him disappear into some

967
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 4: around a cedar tree that I couldn't after that, called

968
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 4: my uncle, found him, drug him out, had Coors lights

969
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 4: and bourbon.

970
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: A great reminder that it can all just change in

971
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: a minute. Yeah, after everything's going wrong too.

972
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: Yep. Man, Now that's the abbreviated version of all what

973
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 4: would happen? But I will say this mark Iowa was

974
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: a struggle. Iowa was fun. But I enjoyed this season

975
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: so much, not only because I got to hunt with

976
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: a new guy in South Dakota who's a great dude.

977
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: I also got to do my thing in Iowa, which

978
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 4: is always a blast, regardless of how shitty I've said

979
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: things are. And then I got to hunt with my uncle,

980
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: who I shot my first turkey with him, I shot

981
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: my first pheasant with him when I was like thirteen, twelve,

982
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: thirteen years old, and it was just awesome to hang

983
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: out with him again. And an absolute blast, man, absolute

984
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 4: blast of a season thus far. And it's not over yet,

985
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: so who knows what's going to happen.

986
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's another really important thing to remember when it

987
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: comes to what makes this stuff so good oftentimes is

988
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: the people that you spend time with.

989
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: And it's easy these days there, at least it has

990
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: been for me.

991
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: When you're so obsessed with trying to kill mature buck,

992
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: it can become like a solo endeavor. They can become

993
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 2: a lone wolf thing, which just like you against the world,

994
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: and you're out there on your own, traveling around or

995
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: doing whatever in the tree all the time, and you

996
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: end up sacrificing in the fun hunts with family or

997
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: going to the family deer camp, or getting breakfast or

998
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 2: lunch with the buddies, And man, that's always been a mistake.

999
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: Like that's one of the biggest changes I'm trying to

1000
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: make is, Yeah, prioritize the trips with friends, do the

1001
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: things with family. Take a little time to be part

1002
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: of the social element of it, even if that means

1003
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: less time in the tree, or maybe you do a

1004
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 2: trip that has slightly less chances of killing a big

1005
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: giant buck. But if you're there with people you enjoy

1006
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: and care about, that's the stuff that makes this so special.

1007
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, this deer camp thing, dude, it was so much fun. Iowa.

1008
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: This year, my dad pulled a trailer down to a

1009
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: local state park that was ten miles away from where

1010
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 4: I hunt, and I stayed in a camper with my dad.

1011
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 4: He didn't hunt, he doesn't hunt, but he cooked some

1012
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: great meals. I celebrated my Usually my birthday is November fifth,

1013
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: and usually I'm celebrating that by myself most years. This

1014
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: year I was able to celebrate it with my dad.

1015
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: He cooked me a steak on the cool out on

1016
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: the camp site. I stayed in his camper, electricity TV.

1017
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: Like it was.

1018
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: It was not this grind, grind. The time in the

1019
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: tree stand was the grind. But outside of that, man,

1020
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 4: it was absolutely and it's just one hundred percent success

1021
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: this year period. Yeah, I don't care how it turns out.

1022
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: That's the good stuff right there, and a great thing

1023
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: to leave us with here today. As we go into

1024
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, I think thinking about that

1025
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, prioritizing those types of memories and moments

1026
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. We'll do us all

1027
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: really good. So thanks buddy for making time to do this.

1028
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, good luck the rest of the season.

1029
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 3: Mark, thanks man, you too.

1030
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: All right, and that is a wrap for us today.

1031
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining us, thanks for being here. As I

1032
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 2: mentioned at the top, Happy Thanksgiving. Hopefully you are having

1033
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: a wonderful holiday, eating lots of good food, getting out

1034
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: there in the woods for some hunts. Please be safe,

1035
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: please have fun out there, and enjoy these most wonderful

1036
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: final days of November. And until next time, stay wired ton.

1037
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 6: It's that time of the year again. I'm back, Marcus Kenyon.

1038
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: How are you your son of a gadwall? You look terrible.

1039
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 6: I'm just kidding her, Rema, I'm sorry, I'm late. I

1040
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 6: crashed my recumbent bicycle into the side of a quiz nose,

1041
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: and I know what you're thinking. I am as sober

1042
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 6: as a newborn blue crab. I swear to you this

1043
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 6: is just kombucha. I'm watching the gut health. You gotta

1044
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 6: do it as you get older. And also, I'm wearing

1045
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 6: this ankle bracelet that makes a beep beep sound if

1046
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 6: I have a drop of the stuff. Also alerts the authorities,

1047
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 6: who in turn alert my parole officer. So there'll be

1048
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 6: none of that in the studio today, I promise you.

1049
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: Let's get go.

1050
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 6: Oh, you're queuing it up already. Okay. I thought we'd

1051
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 6: learned a lesson this year, but I guess not.

1052
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: Here we go.

1053
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: Of those beagy, big white tails those eaky run beagy

1054
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 5: big big white tails. I love those beagy big yet

1055
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 5: eight chats eat tails. I love those beachy, big wide tails,

1056
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: big white tails, big white tails, big white tails are great?

1057
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: Hold?

1058
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 6: What fun it is to sit in the freezing cold

1059
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 6: tree all day? Big white tails, big white tails, big

1060
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 6: white tails are great?

1061
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 5: Hold?

1062
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 6: What fun it is to sit in the freezing cold

1063
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 6: tree all day? Dashing through the woods for the morning light,

1064
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 6: turns grave across the fields and draws, creep in all

1065
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 6: the way, climb into the tree. Big bucks are on

1066
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 6: the way. What fun he is to sit and wait

1067
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 6: for my gosh don deer all day? Oh big, I'm sorry?

1068
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: What is this?

1069
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 6: Piscato strings? Who do you think I am? And you

1070
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 6: get this out here? I don't want to hear it?

1071
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1072
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 6: Big white tails, big white tails, big white tails are great.

1073
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 6: Hold fun it is to sit in the freezing cold

1074
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 6: tree all day? I hope sund dreams are high the rut.

1075
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 6: He's finally here, Mark said, it's the most wonderful time

1076
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 6: to kill o whitetail deer bingch points and pettings where

1077
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 6: you'll find me?

1078
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: Hang, it's want to feet.

1079
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 6: In a tree, grunt tubes my bowl inspector Camos really

1080
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 6: campy be he or two ago. I thought that this

1081
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 6: was fun, but now I'm frozen to my seat and

1082
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 6: the good times they are God. I've ate up all

1083
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 6: my snacks, my hands and toes unnumb and we're gonna

1084
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: climb down from my stand. That son of a bud

1085
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 6: decided to come.

1086
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 5: On those bagy b Wat tapes, those sky bagy big

1087
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 5: big Wait tapes. I love those be agy big dupe

1088
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 5: y'all eight shot gie eat tails. I love those big

1089
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 5: white tails all Dad.

1090
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 6: I don't know why this is happening, I swear to God,

1091
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 6: Oh officer, what seems to be the problem here? Oh this?

1092
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 6: I don't know why this is happening. It must be

1093
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 6: a malfunction, you know. Sometimes it happens when the batteries

1094
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 6: run low.

1095
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: You don't know.

1096
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 6: You don't need to smell that. That's just kambuocha. I okay, yes,

1097
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 6: you've got me. It's ever clear and pacific cooler, Caprice Son.

1098
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 6: I am so so sorry. I don't know why my

1099
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 6: life has brought me here. Mark Marcus, I'm so sorry.

1100
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 6: Enjoy the rut or whatever. Good luck boys, Good to

1101
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 6: see you, Hayden it's been a while. Hey, sorry, I'm late.

1102
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 6: I crashed my pontiac cast I could do a light

1103
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 6: pole and had to walk the rest of the way.

1104
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 6: But I'm here now.

1105
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: That's what matters.

1106
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: Give you a glass of scotch, please, Hayden, just two

1107
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 6: rocks in there. I don't my guys, we're starting already.

1108
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 6: This is happening. Okay, just give me the give me

1109
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 6: the glass, thank you. Okay, here we go. It's the

1110
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 6: most wonderful time to kill deer. With the run now

1111
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 6: just starting and dashing and dotting and veins cutting clean,

1112
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 6: It's the most wonderful time to kill deer. There's far

1113
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 6: too much ice in this glass. It's the half happy

1114
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 6: season of all. There's gotta be at least twelve cues

1115
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 6: with grunting and bleeding and call fronts and sleeting the

1116
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 6: last weeks of fun. It's the happiest seedsson of home.

1117
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 6: There'll be pictures for posting and bragging and boasting and

1118
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 6: truck beds with big bucks in toe. There'll be narrow

1119
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 6: miss stories and tales of your glories of booner bucks

1120
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: missed with our bulls. It's the most wonderful time to

1121
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 6: kill deer, not just one baby two. There'll be no

1122
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 6: dose of blowing and looming knocks glowing and blood trails

1123
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 6: so clean. It's the most wonderful time to kill dea.

1124
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 6: Excuse me? Can I have a napkin? Please? I just

1125
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 6: spilled some scotch on my loafers. I can't have dirty

1126
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 6: loafers in the studio. Thank you Tailgate beers for drinking,

1127
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: and big Bucks is sleeping and chasing and san jacking

1128
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 6: does They will be fighting and scraping and no more

1129
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: escaping and arrowshot true hitting, Oh key change. But no

1130
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 6: one told me that it's the most wonderful time to

1131
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 6: kill deer. I was very unprepared for this. There will

1132
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 6: be much morning sitting in cold fronts, are hitting the

1133
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 6: dawn crispin clean. It's the most wonderful time.

1134
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: Oh, the most wonderful time.

1135
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 6: Yes, the most wonderful time.

1136
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: To kill.

1137
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 6: There's too much ice in the glass

1138
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 5: Rocks.