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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did.

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Speaker 2: My name is Millie to.

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Speaker 3: Jericho, I'm Danielle Henderson, and.

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Speaker 2: We are here to talk about movies with you. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I almost forgot my name. Yay.

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Speaker 2: I do like that little pause. It felt dramatic.

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Speaker 4: What have I changed my name? And I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 4: Danielle Truman, Esquire and this is how you're finding out.

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Speaker 2: I like that you esquired yourself. You're just like, I'm

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Speaker 2: a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: Now, if you're going to change your name, you might

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Speaker 4: as well just change your name, like add all the

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Speaker 4: shit Esquire.

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Speaker 2: Miss doctor Danielle Henderson.

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Speaker 3: Dds dds for sure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, j JD for it.

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Speaker 3: How are you this week?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, as you can see behind me.

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Speaker 1: I'm no longer in the room that I've been in

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Speaker 1: for the past like eight or nine months.

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Speaker 3: You make it sound like you were in captivity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, weren't we though?

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Speaker 3: She escaped, Folks, she escaped. Weren't we though?

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Speaker 1: Isn't an escape? I'm in Georgia. I'm actually in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Georgia right now, my hometown.

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Speaker 4: How does it feel to be back? Well, it's only

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Speaker 4: been like, I mean, it's been a minute. It hasn't

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Speaker 4: been too long, but how does it feel so far

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Speaker 4: to be like on your own again? And I did.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy hanging out with my family for quarantine. I did

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, and it was a great experience. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm ever going to have time like that ever again.

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that. I was like, when

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Speaker 1: in my adult life will I be able to like

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Speaker 1: spend like almost a year with my parents and my family, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been in their house since I was like

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Speaker 1: eighteen years old, and I don't know. Just the unique

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Speaker 1: circumstance of the pandemic, I think was sort of this

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Speaker 1: thing where I was like, oh my god, I have

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Speaker 1: this opportunity to be with them, and you know, everyone's

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Speaker 1: getting older and so it's kind of nice. It was

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Speaker 1: nice to be there, But you know, I came back

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I already am like, God, there are

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Speaker 1: so many bugs here. I can't believe how many bugs

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Speaker 1: are here.

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Speaker 2: Whites.

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Speaker 3: Ugh, I know, we both left LA and moved to

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Speaker 3: like the Woods.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's strange because so both in

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Speaker 1: LA and in where my parents live in Florida, there

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Speaker 1: aren't a lot of trees. I mean there's like palm trees,

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Speaker 1: but you know, for the most part you can see

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Speaker 1: like open sky. You know, building is an open sky.

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Speaker 1: Right in Atlanta, the whole city is kind of covered

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Speaker 1: by like an urban forest, I guess.

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Speaker 2: So there's just giant, tall trees everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Also, is this is this an example of like a

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Speaker 4: real life example of can't see the forest for the trees?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I really never know what that meant. What does

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Speaker 2: that mean?

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Speaker 4: I think it means that you're so like you're so

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Speaker 4: focused on the small thing that you can't see the

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Speaker 4: bigger picture. So is it like when the first time

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Speaker 4: you lived in Atlanta, you were just like used to it,

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Speaker 4: so you.

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Speaker 3: Weren't aware of living that you were living in an

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Speaker 3: urban forest.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And now you've come.

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Speaker 4: Back and you're like, all I see is forest, all

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Speaker 4: I see is trees.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Once you got you get used to living in a

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Speaker 1: certain climate, and then you come back to another one,

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, like there's it's just you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: A big, big change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it affects your whole day, Like the humidity

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Speaker 4: affects my whole day.

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Speaker 3: If it's going to be humid. I will change my

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Speaker 3: fucking plans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It makes you, I don't know if this is your case.

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Speaker 1: It makes you get up either really early to do

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Speaker 4: Yes, that is the schedule. It's Farmers hours or vampire hours.

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Speaker 1: If you want to go walk the dog, you either

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the dog's like crossing its legs the whole day,

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Speaker 4: like can we just go out?

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Speaker 3: And you're like, no, it's too hot.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask you what is going

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Speaker 1: Though, a lot of our listeners are like really all

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Speaker 1: in on your house, Like they're like, we want the updates,

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Speaker 1: we want to know what's going on with Chauncey.

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Speaker 2: We want to know what's going on with the barn.

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Speaker 4: So Chauncey is goddamn pushing it lately. I was outside

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Speaker 4: today sitting down on the porch. He's getting very bold

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, his face is just like right next

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Speaker 4: people under the porch. So I'll be sitting in the

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Speaker 4: screech and squeal and he's just like boxing a chipmunk.

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Speaker 2: Where are the wife and kids while this is happening.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand digging holes in my fucking yard, now,

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Speaker 4: digging holes on a fucking fence. I've just had it

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Speaker 4: with this. Their cuteness factor is diminishing daily. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you're real cute, but I'm gonna break my fucking ankle

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Speaker 4: in my own yard. And now you're like getting so

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Speaker 4: bold that you're like in my face, like, yeah, motherfucker,

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Speaker 4: what's up. I'm having a goddamn fight club underneath your porch.

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Speaker 4: What are you gonna do about it? Like it's getting

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Speaker 4: a little much.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, Chauncey is It's like that movie Far

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Speaker 1: and Away with Nicole Kimmen and Tommy Cruise where Chauncey

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Speaker 1: has to go and fight people in pubs for money

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Speaker 1: as like a family. And I'm just sort of like, oh, now,

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Speaker 1: this is a family endeavor. Where Chauncey goes to fight,

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Speaker 1: and then the mother and the kids are building the homestead,

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Speaker 4: And I completely agree, and it is it's like gold

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Speaker 3: And then the deer has had her baby.

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Speaker 4: So there's like two, like I think there's three fawns,

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Speaker 4: and they're adorable. They just run all over the yard,

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Speaker 4: the mom's always trying to like corral them, like you

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Speaker 4: here comes Chauncey and his fucking bruiser family like chasing

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Speaker 4: after these fawns, and I'm like, can you let them be?

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Speaker 4: Like not everyone is fighting in this world for space,

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Speaker 4: Like they're fine, like let them be, but I want

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Speaker 4: to so Chauncey, that's a Chauncey update. He's pushing it, Okay,

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Speaker 4: he's pushing it this week. He's getting bold in a

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Speaker 3: But the I guess.

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Speaker 4: One other update is that so I'm renefitting my own kitchen.

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Speaker 4: I surface and sanded the cabinets and painted and spray

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Speaker 3: I'm just doing like the prep.

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Speaker 4: Work, and I think this week I'm going to actually

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Speaker 2: Sam, Are you doing that by yourself?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My brother did.

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Speaker 4: My brother and sister in law did help me remove

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Speaker 4: at least fourteen yards of wallpaper because every time I

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Speaker 4: of wallpaper underneath it.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm gonna lose my mind if

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Speaker 4: you'll want to come over here and help me. So

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Speaker 4: they were champions in coming over and helping me remove wallpaper.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm doing everything else myself, and I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna kind of, you know, slowly but surely, get some

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Speaker 4: shit ready to go. But I'm gonna give you, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna give you some options for the next thing you

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Speaker 4: want to hear about, because there's three other things happening

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Speaker 4: in this house, and I'm gonna leave it up to

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Speaker 4: you to tell me what you want to discuss. My adventure,

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Speaker 4: all right, use your own country adventure Do you want

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Speaker 4: to hear about one the fact that I have to

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Speaker 4: replace two hot water heaters.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to hear about the.

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Speaker 4: Fact that my hot water from the well smells like

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Speaker 4: hot eggs enticing? Or do you want to hear about

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Speaker 4: the thing that's living in my walls? H See, Okay,

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Speaker 4: so the thing was there's something in my walls.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: It could be a choice of either, just just judging

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Speaker 4: by the animals that are like in the yard, it

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Speaker 4: could it could be Chauncey or one of his goddamn

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Speaker 4: bold ass family members who are trying to take over

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Speaker 4: my house. Could be a groundhog. It could be a chipmunk.

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Speaker 4: It could be a squirrel, It could be mice. But

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Speaker 4: I will say I was standing at the kitchen counter

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Speaker 4: making some food, and all of a sudden, behind me

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Speaker 4: my ovens in like this brick wall that kind of

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Speaker 4: burning stoves. I shouldn't hear anything in there, it's brick. Yes,

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden I hear what sounded like human

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Speaker 4: footsteps in the ceiling and wall above me, a skittering

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Speaker 4: like something was like using ferocious claws to try to

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Speaker 4: climb a thump and then something ran, So there's something

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Speaker 3: I did what I always do. I called Corey.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he came over because I was about to leave

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Speaker 4: town for a couple of days. And he came over

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Speaker 4: and I was like, all right, ghost protocols. I don't

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Speaker 4: Can you please go upstairs make sure there's no like

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Speaker 4: sooty footsteps coming from the fireplace or something, and then

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Speaker 4: just close all the doors upstairs, like I just don't

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Speaker 4: came over as well, and she was like, you know

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Speaker 4: you kind of her bottom line is always you live

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Speaker 4: in the country, asshole, which I appreciate, but she's like,

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Speaker 4: you decide to kind of get to a zen place

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Speaker 4: with it, and like, you know, turn up your fucking

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Speaker 4: speakers and just pretend it doesn't exist. And I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not that person quite, but I've been trying to

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Speaker 4: reach this zen place about it because I had to

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Speaker 4: leave town for a couple of days, so I put

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Speaker 4: a series of cardboard boxes in front of the fireplaces,

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Speaker 4: covered those with the fireplace screens. It looks absurd. I

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Speaker 4: will definitely send you a picture. It looks absurd. And

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Speaker 4: then I left town for a couple of days, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, pace Cinar. If anything gets loose in

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Speaker 4: this goddamn house eats its way out of the wall,

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Speaker 4: I'll find out when I get back. When I came back,

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Speaker 4: I heard it again, the nails, the skittering. It sounded

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Speaker 4: like it was coming from near the baseboard heater in

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Speaker 1: Well, I wish you the best. I hope that that

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Speaker 2: That's so I was just saying yes to absolve you.

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Speaker 4: My greatest fear is that that's that's what I will

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like how I never wanted to know

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Speaker 3: Choi ge chuggy chee chugy chew.

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Speaker 4: And if Cheogee is not about Chewbacca, I don't want

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Speaker 3: I guess fuck, can I call you o g Visco?

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Speaker 2: Listen, call me by my visco.

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Speaker 3: O Givisco.

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Speaker 4: I've got my notes. I got my notes. My notes

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Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna rip a lot, because.

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Speaker 6: Its objective was two search for advanced extraterrestrial life. The

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Speaker 2: What fucking happened in there?

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Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg. That's all I know about James Gray. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's a lovely man.

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Speaker 2: But that's all I know about him.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes down to it, I want to

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Speaker 1: give my personal history with the actor Brad Pitt because

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Speaker 1: he is obviously the subject of my film this week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Brad Pitt's been.

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Speaker 1: Around for a long time we know this, he's a

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Speaker 1: Hollywood star, a legend. Perhaps when I was growing up

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Speaker 1: in the nineties is when he kind of came on

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Speaker 1: the scene.

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Speaker 2: Obviously.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this in the episode the Juliet Lewis

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Speaker 1: episode with California. You know, started out as an actor,

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Speaker 1: was in TV.

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Speaker 2: He was in a lot of you know television.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like in an episode of was

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Speaker 1: it an episode of like Family Ties or something. It

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Speaker 1: was like he was in an eighties sitcom or something,

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Speaker 1: or head of the class.

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Speaker 2: I think it was head of the class even better. Yes,

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Speaker 2: But you know, as.

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Speaker 1: Young actors, you know, start they start off like TV

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Speaker 1: and some you know, bit parts and movies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think people mostly knew him from Thelma and Louise

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Speaker 1: because he was kind of he was kind of a

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Speaker 1: young hottie and I will I'm not gonna lie, like

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Speaker 1: he's great in Film and Louise, Like he's kind of

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Speaker 1: perfect for what that role work required from him, right,

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Speaker 1: But beyond that, I largely ignored Brad Pitt in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: I mean I never really thought of him, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think felt he was really fun

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Speaker 1: in Theilman Louise and of course now I think the

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Speaker 1: film Interview with a Vampire is like camp genius.

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Speaker 2: It's so great.

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you we gotta do that movie

477
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Speaker 1: for an episode because I have I saw it recently

478
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Speaker 1: after not having seen it since high school, and.

479
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Speaker 2: I have so much to say about it.

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Speaker 4: So we will jump on that chance with you, because

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen it since it came out, and when

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Speaker 4: it came out, I was like, what the fuck is

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Speaker 4: this going on here?

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Speaker 1: I think I thought it was suspect because I was like,

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Speaker 1: why is Tom cruising a vampire movie? Why is he

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Speaker 1: in an Anne Riis movie? He's fucking you know, the

487
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Speaker 1: guy from Top Gun. There's no way he can be goth.

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Speaker 1: But boy is that movie so oh crazy?

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 1: When it comes down to it, it's like, okay, Brad Pitt, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I know that he's been in a shit ton

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Speaker 1: of movies, like I I mean, and in fact, I

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Speaker 1: have seen movies that he's been in over the years

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Speaker 1: and thought, Okay, that's fun. Like I saw Moneyball thought

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Speaker 1: that was fine, and I think the Oceans eleven movies

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Speaker 1: are fun.

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Speaker 2: Despite the fact that he looks insane in those movies.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever revisited the like First

499
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Speaker 1: Ocean's eleven movie, but I'm like, he's go have bleached

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Speaker 1: blonde hair, and he's wearing this like insane suit that's like.

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Speaker 3: The collars on those suits.

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Speaker 1: It's like the two thousands are crying. It's like the

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Speaker 1: really wide collars with and they're kind of shiny. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, why is he dryk It's just like

505
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Speaker 1: smash mouth. Like the whole thing is fucking smash mouth

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Speaker 1: to me. And I don't really know why. But I

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Speaker 1: am totally fine with the fact that he's just a

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Speaker 1: famous guy who made enjoyable movies for people, and he

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Speaker 1: was a famous hottie to everybody but me, apparently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and me, I'm like, I appreciate him as an actor.

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Speaker 4: I don't need to find him attractive fight club very

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Speaker 4: I'm distracted by smooth, muscly bodies.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why.

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Speaker 1: That movie came very preloaded with a lot of bullshit

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: So it's even if he like was.

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Speaker 1: Like a perfect specimen of like muscular maleness, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have cared because I'm like, that movie is something I

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Speaker 1: just cannot get into. Like I'm just like that just

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Speaker 1: can't be the movie that I like. There's just too

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Speaker 1: much going on, too many people I don't like love it.

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Speaker 1: So let's just move on.

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Speaker 3: Right, We're getting into that for a bonus next year.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you some lead up.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But even in those moments, I still didn't. It

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Speaker 1: didn't register, but they did. Twenty nineteen, which is the

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Speaker 1: same year that ad Asher came out, this other little

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Speaker 1: movie came out called Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: directed by Quentin Tarantino, and it was in this moment,

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen year that I was finally like, I

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Speaker 1: think I am possibly ready to receive the Hollywood hunkiness

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Speaker 1: of Brad Pitt, Like I'm finally ready for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was right there with you.

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Speaker 2: And here's why. Okay.

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Speaker 1: In that movie, he played a character named Cliff Booth right,

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Speaker 1: and Cliff was this like stunt man, grizzled sun tanned

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Speaker 1: to his death, cigarette smoking, shirtless on a roof guy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: He had bad navy tattoos, he had his chest was

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Speaker 1: sort of like burnt, kind of in that like gas

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Speaker 1: station hot dogish kind of way, like kind of crispy

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00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: crispy bronze with like some white chest hairs poking out.

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Speaker 1: And it was at this moment that I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I needed to run to Wikipedia to

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Speaker 1: find out how old Brad Pitt is right now. And

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Speaker 1: it turns out he's like fifty five years old, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Brad Pitt has become what I call craggy hot, which,

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Speaker 1: to give you my definition of this, this is craggy

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00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: hot is typically for me an actor from the nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties or nineteen seventies who is middle aged, sun damaged, hairy,

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Speaker 1: pickled from too many like old man cocktails. He's got

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00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: a smoker's cough because he smokes two packs of filterless.

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Speaker 2: Cigarettes every day.

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Speaker 1: He wears polyester slacks, and I'm sure that if you

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Speaker 1: were to like go into the lines in his face,

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Speaker 1: you would find actual dirt in them.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, the first time I ever discovered what craggy hot,

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Speaker 1: like the essence of craggy hot was, was when I

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Speaker 1: saw that movie Gidget from the nineteen fifties with Cliff Robertson.

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Speaker 1: So Cliff Robertson played the Big Kouda in Gidget, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Cliff Robertson is craggy hot.

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Speaker 2: He's he's he's like a surfer.

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Speaker 1: He's like a beached surfer, and he has his voice

568
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: is so affected by cigarette consumption that I'm like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: he's like a craggy hot dude.

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Speaker 4: And I am still on hot dog skin and dirt

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Speaker 4: in the crags.

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Speaker 3: The crags love that description so much, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And like, so from Gidget is when I started, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I work at TCM, so I see pictures of

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Speaker 1: old fucking actors all day long. So I'm like, yo,

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Speaker 1: who else is a craggy hotty? George c Scott, Martin Balsam, Lee, J. Cobb,

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Speaker 1: Ben Gazea, robert On, Jack Warden, George Kennedy, you name it.

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Speaker 2: These are craggy hot actors. And they usually are either

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Speaker 2: in like crime films or you know, It's like if.

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Speaker 1: You were in Twelve Angry Men or The Magnificent Seven,

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Speaker 1: you are likely craggy hot.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I love this definition.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the artistry you're bringing to this definition, the research, and.

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Speaker 3: It is the truth.

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Speaker 1: It's the truth, and dare I say Brad Pitt has

586
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Speaker 1: moved into this mode?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I could not agree more.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know his actual personal life. If he's

590
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: like smoking a bunch of filterless cigarettes, if he's like

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Speaker 1: a pall mall guy, I don't know who. I don't

592
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Speaker 1: know his life, you know. But in the character of

593
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Cliff Booth, this is exactly who he was.

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Speaker 2: He was craggy hot. So cut to ad Astra.

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00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna give a one sentenced synopsis of at

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Speaker 1: Astra right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, and is it just that.

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00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: It's me slapping my own face.

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00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Now a one synopsis of at Astra is an astronaut

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Speaker 1: named Roy McBride is sent in Neptune to reunite with

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Speaker 1: his estranged father and to destroy a secret government project

602
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Speaker 1: once spearheaded by his dad.

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Speaker 2: In order to save planet Earth.

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Speaker 4: A lot going on there. That's a great one sentence

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Speaker 4: capture of that film.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. So I'll just tell you at Astra. Okay.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice film to look at. Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice film for multiple reasons. Right, there's a

609
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Speaker 2: lot of different kind of experimental sort of camera techniques

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Speaker 2: that are going on a lot of like cool editing.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, James Gray, the director, had consulted with some experimental

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Speaker 1: filmmakers when he was making this movie, so obviously he

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Speaker 1: wanted to make it artists and nice.

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Speaker 2: To look at.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this film, as it unravels, you realize

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Speaker 1: it's kind of moving around in time. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of flashbacks, and there's a lot of kind of memories

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Speaker 1: that are occurring in the film, and there's not a

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Speaker 1: ton of dialogue. It's mostly just really the Brad Pitt character.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of his narration and it really is kind

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Speaker 1: of like his sort of innermost thoughts, you know. But

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Speaker 1: otherwise the movie is really sparse, and you know, that's

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Speaker 1: a great thing. I guess if you want to convey

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Speaker 1: the loneliness and isolation of space, they did a good

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Speaker 1: job conveying that absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But for me, you know, it really does.

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Speaker 1: Kind of remind me a lot of like movies like

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one a Space Odyssey, or like Solaris

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Speaker 1: by Andre Tartowsky if you've ever seen that extra credit

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Speaker 1: just saying and you know, the score is really great.

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Speaker 1: It's done by Max Richter, and it's kind of this

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Speaker 1: like minimalist, sort of electro sound track. It kind of

633
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: reminds me a little like of silver Apples or something.

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Speaker 2: It's very, very great.

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Speaker 3: It's a good soundtrack to write to as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 1: And you know, generally it is a contemplative science fiction movie,

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00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: which I gotta be honest, doesn't usually get me to

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: the theater on opening night. It's usually a movie that

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00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I'll watch Stoned in the comfort of my own home

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Speaker 1: about eight months to two years after the movie comes out.

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Speaker 4: And this year, that year of twenty nineteen was a

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Speaker 4: rediscovery of Brad Pitt for me, because, as I said,

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Speaker 4: I've always put him in this category of interesting actor

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Speaker 4: hot to other people, and that's fine, and I think

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Speaker 4: with a tip off for me in twenty nineteen for

647
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: rediscovering Brad Pitt wasn't necessarily Once upon a time in Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember he did this this interview and this

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Speaker 4: photo shoot with GQ and he's like in the se

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Speaker 4: and and just like kind of throwing himself around a

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Speaker 4: desert and there's a particular photo where his eyes are

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Speaker 4: full of tears and it's a beautiful photo in general.

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Speaker 3: But it's like the articles talking about his divorce and

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Speaker 3: his children.

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Speaker 4: And I think and again this, like most episodes of

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Speaker 4: this one could be categorized in renaming our podcast What's

657
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 4: wrong with Me? I think once he was sad, I

658
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Speaker 4: got it, like, oh, you're not just.

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Speaker 3: Like hot and free wheeling.

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00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, like shit is life is beating you the fuck up.

661
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: And that is when he became interestic of thing.

662
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: But it's also I think, to a symptom of age.

663
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: I think, especially after a certain amount of time. You know,

664
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: and I will say this from personal experience, you really

665
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: do sort of like take a long sigh about a

666
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: lot of shit that you used to do and just

667
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: the relationships.

668
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: That you used to have and the things that you do.

669
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: And I think you do sort of like settle in

670
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: you like the house sort of settles a little bit, yes, right.

671
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: And it's like a revelation of vulnerability that I think

672
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: is also comes with age, and that is very very appealing,

673
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: very enticing.

674
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: And I think that at Astra is honestly kind of

675
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: an extension of that. Yeah, And maybe that's probably why

676
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: we like fucking locked in on it, because we're like,

677
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: we just read this article where Brad Pitt is sad

678
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: and this entire movie is about him being sad, exact

679
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: and contemplating his fucking life.

680
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: Of course, we love this.

681
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 7: Movie, and my thing is basically, like I think the

682
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 7: main note that I have about why he does it

683
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 7: for me an ad Astra two words sad eyes, Like

684
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 7: if you can have sad eyes and a space helmet and.

685
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: Lock me into that story, like I'm with you on

686
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: the journey forever.

687
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: I am with you.

688
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: At Astra more like Astra right, ah, Brad Astra, Brad

689
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Astra is sad.

690
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: What you call craggy, I have in my own life

691
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 4: been calling jagged face. Yes, Like I'm so much more

692
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: interested in the character of someone's face as the age,

693
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: Like if you look like you could slice ham on

694
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: your face, I want to know everything about you.

695
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: And we slice a lot of ham with Brad in

696
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: this movie because honestly, like you know, it's a space movie.

697
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of close ups of his face, and

698
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: I gotta say, they get real close up on his

699
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: old man face and fuck, yeah, I'm in there.

700
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: Give me some eyebags, give me some fucking forehead wrinkles,

701
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: like I'm into that shit.

702
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

703
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: There's like moments where they're so close in with the

704
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: HD camera that you can see like the bags under

705
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: his eyes twitching. I'm like, that's real shit right there.

706
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's Timothy Shallow. I could never, could never.

707
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: So I'll just give you also, like a couple of

708
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: beats of this film that are because here's the thing.

709
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: If you look at it as the sort of like

710
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: a study of Brad Pitt as a fifty five year

711
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: old man experiencing.

712
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: On we it's a great film.

713
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: If you think about it in terms of what the

714
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: science fiction part of it is doing, You're like, this

715
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: movie is kind of ridiculous. Okay, So Brad Pitt's character

716
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: is a astronaut, he has no children. His wife was

717
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: played by liv Tyler, has just recently left him because

718
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: apparently he's super fucking detached and emotionless.

719
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: And he loves being alone a lot. Let me tell

720
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: you something about Roy McBride.

721
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: Okay, we're talking about like a you know, a sort

722
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: of point in the future that's undetermined. I don't know

723
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: if this is like I think it's in the twenty

724
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: fourth century, don't know if it's like twenty ninety.

725
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: Nine or so.

726
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: It's it's it's basically like now, but enhanced. So just

727
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: imagine that's the that's the sci fi world that we're in, Okay,

728
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Because in order for him to be able to travel

729
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: to space, he has to get like his fucking body

730
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: tested at all times.

731
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: That he's got to have.

732
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: Like a mental health check before he, you know, goes

733
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: into space. Roy's resting heart rate is forty seven bpms,

734
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: which is fucking insane, Okay, And all throughout the beginning

735
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: of this movie, you know, he's in flashback talking about

736
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: his failed marriage, talking about sort of like his circumstance,

737
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: which is just like he's a lonely astronaut.

738
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: And I want to.

739
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Say something right now about this, Okay. They always make

740
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: movies about dudes like this, Okay, Like there's always a

741
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: movie about like a solitary, meditative guy who can formulation.

742
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: And they're only good at like one thing, whether it's

743
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: like being a fucking assassin or a kickboxer or a

744
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: cattle wrangler or an astronaut. And I just want to

745
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: remind Hollywood that women need their own fucking version of

746
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: this shit, Okay, Like do you think that we don't

747
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: want to be alone in space and that we're not

748
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: silently pensive and methodical, and that we have failed relationships

749
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: and we live in sparse, shitty apartments, but we know

750
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: how to like make electronics.

751
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: And shit, Like, how can we can't be this?

752
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: Where's the movie for women who know how to solder

753
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: and don't want to have kids?

754
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I want the Conversation starring a

755
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: woman as opposed to Gene Hackman. I want like Le

756
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: Samurai instead of starring Ellen Delon it star.

757
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: As a woman.

758
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: I agree.

759
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 4: And it's one of the things that bothered me about

760
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 4: this movie is Liv Tyler has zero lines.

761
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 3: She says jackshit.

762
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: While he's explaining like, yeah, like I'm a lone wolf man,

763
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: like I just you know, I could put on the Veneer,

764
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: but ultimately I just like to hurdle myself through space

765
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: by myself.

766
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you're not by yourself.

767
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: If you're in space, there's like five hundred people trying

768
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: to make sure that, like you could actually pee when

769
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: you need to pee, Like you're never alone.

770
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.

771
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, most of these lone wolf do they're never alone.

772
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: There's like a whole infrastructure propping them up so they

773
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 4: can be insular.

774
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: And yes, Liv Tyler speaks virtually no lines in this film.

775
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: She will win the Oscar for best key dropping on

776
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: a counter. I guess that's what she'll win. Okay, So

777
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing about Roy McBride, So he is detached

778
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: it emotionalists, even when he is on a space station

779
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: and an electrical storm hits the space station and he

780
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: fucking falls to.

781
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: Earth from space.

782
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 4: This is literally one of my notes where I said,

783
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: if you can keep your shit together while you're spinning

784
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: through space, you're interesting to me. A that helped heighten

785
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: the level of interest I had in Brad Pitt and

786
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 4: getting the brad.

787
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: Pitness of it.

788
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: When I'm like, he's speaking in a really calm voice,

789
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: like he's a doctor, just kind of relaying his notes

790
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: for the day while he's hurtling off a fucking space station.

791
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: It's cool move. It's a good script, writing good moves.

792
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: As a person who dabbles in science fiction, what are

793
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: the odds of somebody surviving a fall from a space

794
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: station to Earth?

795
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean, the way I write it, it would be

796
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: zero because I can't even imagine someone living through a

797
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: falling off of a roof, right.

798
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: I always thought that if you like fell to.

799
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: It's like, is it like the bens or something like

800
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: if you fall to yeah fast through the atmosphere, you

801
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: just burn up or something.

802
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: Like that, or just like the whole the velocity of it,

803
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know, there's got to be something

804
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: going on with your organs and you're going through so

805
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: many different levels. There's so much that you have to

806
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: understand about space and how and that's not like my

807
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: I don't understand space. I make things up about space

808
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: sometimes for fun, but I don't get it. And it's

809
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: like I don't think it's possible to be like guys,

810
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna like not talk so much because I'm

811
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: like feeling the pressure of this and I feel like

812
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be unconscious and I'm you know, losing altitude

813
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: really quickly, like I can't when a plane goes through turbulence.

814
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck's going on? Like I'm not

815
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: that person. I don't understand how he survived this.

816
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't either.

817
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: And if you're a scientist, like if you're a volcanologist

818
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: with a degree in space falls, please email us at

819
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: I Saw what you did pot at gmail dot com.

820
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Can Brad Pitt fall.

821
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: Off of space station and you know, fall to Earth

822
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: in a holy ass parachute and survive. I really want

823
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: to know this question. But anyway, so here's the thing

824
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: about Roy. So Roy basically survives the fucking fall from space,

825
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: and then the government basically tells him.

826
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: Look, your dad.

827
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Who was also an astronaut, he went to Neptune many

828
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: years ago and he was on some space mission shit

829
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: called the Lima Project, and he's been there for sixteen years.

830
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: He might have gone insane, and we think he's causing

831
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: literal shit storms. It's literal electric storms that are affecting

832
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: the entire Solar System and all life on Earth.

833
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: We need him to stop, and you're.

834
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: The only one who can do it, apparently.

835
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: And this is where the sci fi to me is

836
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: starting to get a little fucking bonkers, because I'm like, Okay,

837
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: you got one guy in Neptune for sixteen years causing

838
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: these great, big storms that are gonna kill life in

839
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: the Solar system, in the entire Solar system, and then

840
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: you gotta go get him. Roy, That's your fucking job

841
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: is to go get your dad's.

842
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: Surprise, he's alive. Surprise to Peece. You're going to Neptune.

843
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: I'm like a virgin intergalactic flight.

844
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: Yes, because here's the thing about Neptune. Okay, first of all,

845
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: we're again, we're in this future where we're like, okay,

846
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: it's sort of like now, but it's kind of like reimagined.

847
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: It's kind of better. There's commercial space flights.

848
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Okay, And let me just tell you right now during

849
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: this whole sequence, because here's what happens to just give

850
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: it to catch you up with what's going on in

851
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: this movie. So Roy's gotta go get his dad on

852
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: Neptune now, whether or not his dad has been able

853
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: to survive for sixteen years on Neptune, which as far

854
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: as fuck okay, and this isn't like Silent Running where

855
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: his dad has created like crops and an ecosystem and

856
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: like there's animals for.

857
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Him to like eat.

858
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I really don't know how he's been able to survive

859
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: alone on Neptune for sixteen fucking years.

860
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: But anyway, his son's got to go get him.

861
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: So what they do is they say, we got to

862
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: be like a secret squirrel mission about this. So you're

863
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna go to the moon like everyone's doing these days,

864
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna sneak you on a seat trip

865
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: to Neptune so we can handle this shit with your dad. Okay,

866
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: So they show this scenario where Brad Pitt and Donald Sutherland,

867
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: who is an ex colleague of his father's, they take

868
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: a commercial virgin spaceflight.

869
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: To the Moon, now, which I kind of loved. I

870
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: kind of loved that thee.

871
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: It was great.

872
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: The only thing was a a pillow and a blanket

873
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: costs one hundred and twenty five dollars.

874
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: B.

875
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: At the airport on the Moon there's an Applebee's and

876
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: a Yoshinoya, which I was like, gross. And see how

877
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: annoying will commercial space travel be? Like if you thought

878
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: Instagram was irritating, now just wait until people are like

879
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: posting fucking pictures on their commercial spacecrafts. I'm like, I'm

880
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: definitely quitting Instagram.

881
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm Tommie Jones in it. I'm going to

882
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: be Clifford McBride.

883
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: Be like, you need to shoot me to another fucking

884
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: planet where I don't ever have to interact with any

885
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 4: of this. If I see one selfie on the Moon,

886
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 4: I'm fucking out of social media forever.

887
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is they take this crucial spacecraft.

888
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: As it turns out, Donald Sutherland is.

889
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Too old to actually travel to Neptune because it takes

890
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: like seventy nine days, and as it turns out, the

891
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: government is basically like, Roy, let's send a message to

892
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: your dad just to let him know you're coming, okay,

893
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: So he sends them a message or he they prepare

894
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: a statement for him, which he reads and nothing happens.

895
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: But then he comes back a second time and it's like, no,

896
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: let me get on this mic and say some real

897
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: shit to my dad. So he does, and apparently his

898
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: dad has responded. But now the government's like, oops, actually

899
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: this is actually too chaotic. We can't send you in Neptune.

900
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on with your dad. So thanks,

901
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: but no thanks, here's your flight back from the moon.

902
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: Let's just call it a day. And Brad Pitt's like,

903
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: fuck that.

904
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: I got some I got my daddy issues out on

905
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 4: display now, yes, and we're going to deal with this.

906
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Shit exactly, And he meets Ruth Nega's character, who is

907
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: now here's another thing that is blowing my fucking mind

908
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: about space in this film. So Ruth Negga is like

909
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: the director of operations on Mars, because essentially what happens

910
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: is they have to travel from Moon to Mars, and

911
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Mars is sort of like the last stop before Neptune. Okay,

912
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know why that is, but I'm just saying that

913
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: this is how this movie operates. Okay, And when they're

914
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: on Mars, Ruth Negga is like, Hey, I'm the director

915
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: of operations here.

916
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: By the way, I.

917
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: Was born on Mars and I only went to Earth

918
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: one time and it was nice, but I don't remember

919
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: it or whatever. And I'm like, Okay, you were born

920
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: on Mars. How do you know how to dress? Like,

921
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: how do you know anything about what's going on right now?

922
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: How do you know what clothes are? How do you

923
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: know what this comfort room is with all these flowers

924
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: and beaches to how do you even know what a

925
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: beach is? Like I'm sitting here going like, if somebody

926
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: is born on Mars.

927
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Does she just automatically turn into like a human on Earth?

928
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: Like I just don't understand. I think she would be different.

929
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: I just love how do you get dressed?

930
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: Like?

931
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: How does she know how to wear a pantsuit?

932
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Like She's just like, Okay, I'm just rolling up in

933
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: this like J Jill outfit. I'm like, they don't got

934
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: JJill on Mars or she.

935
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: Wasn't raised like Feral.

936
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: She was raised in like a space station in Mars

937
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: with human beings who had come from Earth, so they

938
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: had to impart some of that wisdom to her. But

939
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: she definitely like developed this like turtleneck J Jiller style

940
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: on Mars, and I kept thinking like is this weather appropriate?

941
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: Like how are you getting into it?

942
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 5: Is?

943
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: I always think that the purpose of space, and you

944
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: know the focus of being in space is survival. So

945
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: like if I'm wearing like a wide leg linen pant,

946
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 4: am I able to hop into a spacesuit real quick?

947
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: Everybody's like getting fucking buck naked and then like strip

948
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: it on the way down.

949
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 3: To my suit and then they get in the suit.

950
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand that.

951
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, And here's the other thing that fucks with me. Okay,

952
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: so she was born on Mars. But here's the thing.

953
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: You find out her parents were part of the Lima project. Okay,

954
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: so they worked with Roy's dad TLJ Tommy Lee Jones

955
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: who plays Roy's dad. Okay, they were actually killed in

956
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: the Lima project. Because what happened was the Lima Project

957
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: is basically a way for them to figure out if

958
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: there is intelligent life in the universe, right, so it

959
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: becomes this like singular mission of the Tommy Lee Jones

960
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: character to find this out. And over time, apparently people

961
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: the Lima Projects were fucking pissed off and they wanted

962
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: to go home, and then instead of letting them go home,

963
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: he just killed everybody. Ruthnig A's parents, so she didn't

964
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: even have any parents, grew up on Mars, somehow learned

965
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: to wear a fucking turtleneck in linen pants. I'm just saying,

966
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: would that happen?

967
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm not into science fiction, I don't know, but to

968
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: me it seems a little weird.

969
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: But I want to write a show that is your

970
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: version of questions about science fiction, like a whole episode

971
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: that's like, how.

972
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Did you learn how to wear that outfit?

973
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm thinking about it wrong, but this

974
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: is just how I think.

975
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I'm like, I'm looking at his pants.

976
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: But anyway, as it turns out, ruthnig is like, Yo,

977
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Roy go to Neptune. The government doesn't want you to

978
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: go anymore, but we're gonna sneak you into the ship,

979
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: and that's what happens. Basically, there's a series of events

980
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: where he has to like get on a ship with

981
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: other people. Those people get attacked by baboons. Shit goes down,

982
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: and he ends up in this rocket to Neptune, alone

983
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: for seventy nine days and he's in zero gravity. He's

984
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: alone for seventy nine days on a ship, and he

985
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: starts fucking feeling his feelings and he's thinking about liv Tyler,

986
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: He's thinking about Santa's dad, and as it turns out,

987
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: he rolls up in a Neptune he sees Tommy Lee

988
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Jones there, and let me just tell you. He shows up,

989
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: he confronts his father, and there's a moment that killed

990
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: me dead, I have to say where he's talking to

991
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: his dad, He's like, remember me, I'm your son. You

992
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: left us, You've been in Neptune for sixteen years, and

993
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones is basically like, yeah, I never thought

994
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: about y'all.

995
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: I don't really think about y'all. Like I was like,

996
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't think Earth is my home.

997
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember my son or my wife, and this

998
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: is just who I am sorry, and Brad Pitt is crying,

999
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, I need a moment here, folks.

1000
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: I was crying alongside Sad Pit at that moment.

1001
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're crying in the theater too. I remember, Oh

1002
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: my god, it's brutal.

1003
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1004
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: And it's also like it's so were you.

1005
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: Were you still getting it with Brad Pitt during all

1006
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: the space bullshit or was it once he got back

1007
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: to this emotional heft is when you're like, yes, I

1008
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: get it again.

1009
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1010
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean throughout the film he's definitely like feeling his feelings,

1011
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: but it wasn't until he makes this like really lonely flight,

1012
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: this secret mission to Neptune that he was never supposed

1013
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: to go on. Then that was the moment where I

1014
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what I want.

1015
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: This is the GQ magazine. This is all of my

1016
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: projections about who he is as a person happening in

1017
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: front of me. And then, as it turns out, you know,

1018
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: as the movie goes on, he has to basically get

1019
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: his father off this ship so he can blow it

1020
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: the fuck up so that the human race will be saved,

1021
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: and it's just his moment, his moment of like trying

1022
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: to figure out like if this life that he has

1023
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: is worth it, and it's very much like you know,

1024
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: the meaning of life.

1025
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: Who am I? My relationships, my wife, my dad, et cetera.

1026
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: And it just got me in the fucking fields.

1027
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you it was it was the

1028
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, Okay, now I didn't get

1029
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: it until this moment. I didn't get you, Brad Pitt,

1030
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: but now I fucking do, and I like it. I

1031
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: feel you old and sad.

1032
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Who knew?

1033
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: I knew. That's been my mo.

1034
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: From day fucking one. I don't approach me if you

1035
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 4: don't have gray hair. I love a gray stubble. I

1036
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 4: also just realized in watching this and kind of like, oh,

1037
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 4: I get Brad Pitt now. I like people who look

1038
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: like they have insomnia, Like you can just tell on

1039
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: their face and body, like they just aren't sleeping well

1040
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 4: and like they just kind of just a little bit

1041
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: of life has kicked their ass is kind of wear

1042
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: mat and I that is so prevalent in this movie.

1043
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: And it was just like a beacon of light that's like, yes,

1044
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: in your mid fifties, I fucking get you.

1045
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, the rest of the world can

1046
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: have Brad Pitt with low rise pants fighting in a

1047
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: warehouse in his peak, I will have Brad Pitt crying

1048
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: about his father on a spaceship.

1049
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 3: That's who I will like completely.

1050
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: That's just the way it's going to be.

1051
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: So I didn't get it until at Astra and now

1052
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: I understand, and that's that's what's gonna happen.

1053
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

1054
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: I we had this, we had I think that is

1055
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: what was happening in that movie theater when we saw

1056
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: this movie.

1057
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: Is we both had that realization.

1058
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 4: Just give me, give me an HD cam on those

1059
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: eyelashes and I'm in it.

1060
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: Give me those wrinkles. Please.

1061
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: I want a sleepless sad Brad Pitt fifty five plus

1062
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: Gray and the Beard.

1063
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: Love it. That's my movie.

1064
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you chose this movie.

1065
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I know you felt the same way.

1066
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: So I didn't feel like it was a surprise to

1067
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: bring this movie to the table.

1068
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell.

1069
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: You, yours is quite a duce.

1070
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, mine is unexpected, to say the least.

1071
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: And I remember when I pitched this.

1072
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to ask you about this.

1073
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: I remember when I pitched this, and I think you

1074
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: were silent for at least ten entire American seconds before

1075
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 4: you start rapping. And I'm like, yeah, girl, I know,

1076
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 4: I think I was working.

1077
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: It out of my head. I was like, yeah.

1078
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: Well, my movie for the theme I didn't get it

1079
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: until was released in two thousand and two, directed by

1080
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 4: Sam Mendy's and it is Road to Perdition. He goes

1081
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 4: on missions for mister Rooney.

1082
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: Not Paul, take Mike with you.

1083
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: They're very dangerous. That's why he brings us a gun.

1084
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: So this movie was written by David Selfe wrote the screenplay.

1085
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: It's based on a graphic novel by Max Allan Collins

1086
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: and the illustrator Richard pires Rayner. One sentence synops, one

1087
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 4: sense of synopsis. In nineteen thirty one, a mob heavy

1088
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: and his son seek revenge on a mobster who murdered

1089
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: their whole family.

1090
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: This cast is incredible.

1091
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: So we have Paul Newman who plays like the crime

1092
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 4: boss Dad, John Rooney, Daniel Craig, ci Rn Hind, you

1093
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 4: got Jude Law, you got Stanley Tucci. The focus amidst

1094
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: all that my focus is that I did not get

1095
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: it until I saw this movie about Tom Hanks.

1096
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.

1097
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 4: Now Tom Hanks has been a staple in my movie

1098
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 4: going life since I was a little kid. I remember

1099
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: watching episodes of Boso and Buddies on TV, like he's

1100
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: been in my life for most of my life.

1101
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: On screen, we just talked about Joe versus the Volcano,

1102
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: said the Burbs. Yeah, we've done him many times already.

1103
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: We love a Tom Hanks moment and this there's so

1104
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: much going on in here. So the fact that it's

1105
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: set in nineteen thirty one, I think is a big

1106
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 4: part of it for me because he plays this guy,

1107
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: Michael Sullivan, who is a guy that works for the

1108
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: Mob and you know they're in They're based in Chicago,

1109
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: and he's like the heavy. So he comes home at

1110
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: one point and Peters's youngest kid is like, what's Papa's job.

1111
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 4: Meanwhile he's like, you know, taking like guns and shit

1112
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 4: out of his pockets and then he takes out a

1113
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: rosary and he basically has like a kill kid, and

1114
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: it's like, daddy's a murderer. Dad, he's a murderer for hire.

1115
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: But that is a departure for Tom Hanks, and I

1116
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 4: think that's where I start. I was kind of like,

1117
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I kind of get it because it's a departure,

1118
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: like I get why I get it. But part of

1119
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: it for me this is I believe, don't hold me

1120
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 4: to it, but I'm I actually do hold me to it.

1121
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 4: I would be surprised if I'm wrong. This is the

1122
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: only movie where Tom Hanks does not crack a smile,

1123
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: does not crack a smile, serious stoic, not laughing, not

1124
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: making us laugh. He's played serious roles before, obviously, but

1125
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: this is a movie where he doesn't. Fucking there's no

1126
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: visible joy in him. And again, call my therape pissed.

1127
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: I fucking love it.

1128
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 3: I love a man with no visible joy in his heart.

1129
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'd be surprised if people thought the theme

1130
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: for this week was guys that have no joy in

1131
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: their hearts.

1132
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say no. But it is.

1133
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Interesting that both of these roles that we're talking about

1134
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: in both of these movies are guys with like a

1135
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: lot going on, and they got a lot of smiles,

1136
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: no smiles, no time.

1137
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: For joy, which is bizarre for me as someone who

1138
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 4: laughs nonsop in my own life. Right, But this is

1139
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: also like Mike Mike Sullivan is also a character who

1140
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: like his own children call him sir. It's like that

1141
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: kind of time where like he's not you're not calling

1142
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: him Mike if you came from his seed, right, He's like,

1143
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: you will call me sir.

1144
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: But I really I love I love the feel of

1145
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: this movie.

1146
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: It's very dark, it's very like it makes sense that

1147
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: it was based on a graphic novel because it has

1148
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 4: these like it's a very shadowy.

1149
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: Dark kind of kind of film, and.

1150
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 4: You've got this relationship that he's in with John Rooney.

1151
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 4: With Paul Newman character, which this is his I think

1152
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: this isn't his last role ever, it's his last role

1153
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: where he was on screen. I think he did some

1154
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: voiceovers and I think he voiced cars, like one of

1155
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 4: the trucks and cars after this. So this is one

1156
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: of Paul Newman's last films. And you can see that

1157
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: he's kind of sick, you can see that he's kind

1158
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: of old, and this relationship that he has with Mike

1159
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: Mike Sullivan is so interesting to me because you're seeing

1160
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: this guy who was like taken off the street by

1161
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: John Rooney and raised as his own child, who he

1162
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 4: kind of loves more than his own child, and you

1163
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: can see them, Like there's a scene where they sit

1164
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: down at the piano together and they're playing and it

1165
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: is so beautiful, and it's just like it's indicative of

1166
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 4: how jealous his actual son Connor is. Like it sets

1167
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: up a good a good push for the plot, but

1168
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: it's just so interesting to me to see Tom Hanks

1169
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 4: being silent and stoic and calm. Yeah, and he is

1170
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 4: not trying to make anyone laugh and he is not.

1171
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 4: There's just again no joy in his heart. And then

1172
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: his whole family is murdered, so he's like, definitely not

1173
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: here for the laughs. So Mike Junior sneaks out one

1174
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 4: night sees his dad do something terrible, like sees him

1175
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 4: shoot a bunch of guys. Connor witnesses it. Connor's like, oh,

1176
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: your kid just watches kill a bunch of dudes, So

1177
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 4: that's not okay. And Connor basically puts a hit out

1178
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: on his family because he doesn't trust that the kid

1179
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: will be quiet about this hit because Connor wasn't supposed

1180
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 4: to do this hit to begin with. So Mike and

1181
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 4: Mike go on the road. It is not like The

1182
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: Adventures of Pete and Pete. The adventures of Mike and

1183
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 4: Mike are very somber. Yes, it is a somber ass

1184
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 4: road at Bordeaux. Part of Mike Sullivan Senior's revenge is

1185
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 4: robbing the banks that the mob keeps their money in

1186
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: as a way to try to get to Connor and

1187
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: kind of get back, to get back at this family that.

1188
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 3: Killed his.

1189
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 4: But we we're just gonna go back for a moment

1190
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 4: because again, the what I get the thing that gets

1191
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: me about Tom Hanks in this movie and the reason

1192
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 4: I get it, and it's the first time I've always

1193
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 4: thought he was like cute and funny. This is the

1194
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 4: first time I thought he was like actually attractive. He's

1195
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: beefy in this movie.

1196
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I noticed about him too. And

1197
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: you know what, so this is a period piece, right,

1198
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: so it takes place in the thirties, Is that.

1199
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: What you said?

1200
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, enteteen thirty one.

1201
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: We know those clothes are bulky at best, right, boiled

1202
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: wool that like overcoats, like motherfucking Like there's a scene

1203
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: where the kid is like outside playing and those kids

1204
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: are wearing like me, socks, shorts, suspenders, a long sleeve shirt,

1205
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: a cap. They might as well be wearing like a

1206
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: full body suit. And these are like this is like

1207
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: kids at play.

1208
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your play clothes.

1209
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: No one's walking around in like, you know, shitty shorts

1210
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: and a little T shirt. It's like these clothes in

1211
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: this era are made two last Wars and pestilence and whatever.

1212
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, I know that that makes people

1213
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: look bigger, just because you know, in those era those

1214
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: clothes are so heavy and sturdy and they're just big.

1215
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: But then I was like, wait a minute, actually think

1216
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: he's a little beefy on top of that.

1217
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: So what's up with that?

1218
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: Right?

1219
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: I love a beefy Tom Hanks, I do too, Man,

1220
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 3: I do too. Who knew?

1221
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the wool coat, the wool hat,

1222
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 4: the wool shirt, the wool underwear, like everything is wool

1223
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 4: and he's carrying it with ease because he's a little

1224
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: bit of beefier and he cuts a nice figure in it,

1225
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 4: like he's imposing in this movie. He's very imposing in

1226
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 4: this film, and that's a big part of it. And

1227
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: I didn't know this until a Lexis, our producer, told

1228
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: us this. But he was wearing a prosthetic.

1229
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: Nose in this movie he was, And it's.

1230
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: Like very well done because you can't really I couldn't

1231
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: tell yeah at all. But yeah, he's wearing like a

1232
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 4: prosthetic nose, so like he's beefing up everything.

1233
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: He's beefing up his.

1234
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: Nose, he's beefing up his shoulders like he's just a

1235
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: beefy dude.

1236
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: Is this based on a character? Is that why he

1237
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: wore a nose prosthetic or were they just like, we

1238
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: gotta give him a beefy nose. These guys needed beefy

1239
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: noses back then.

1240
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even remember like the the

1241
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: specifics of why. I just remember she told us that

1242
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: and I was like, eh, like.

1243
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 3: And yet it works.

1244
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean I do love a beefy nose when it

1245
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: gets down to brass tacks.

1246
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

1247
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 4: And it's just like I don't I don't know that

1248
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 4: it's not even so much about like the strong silent type.

1249
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: It's like like a I like.

1250
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 4: A strong silent withholding dad, Like all of those pieces

1251
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 4: have to be together for me to get it.

1252
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1253
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: Well, and also too, if somebody were to have guessed

1254
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: that these two movies.

1255
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: Are about withholding dads.

1256
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 8: I would have said, you're not wrong exactly because in

1257
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 8: both these movies basically, I mean, because the the interesting

1258
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 8: thing about Road to Tradition is that it is the

1259
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 8: story of.

1260
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: Like fathers and sons or kind of father figures and

1261
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: sons really, because it's like, you have the kid that's

1262
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: so fascinated by his father, right, he wants to know

1263
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: what he does for a living because you know, in

1264
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: those eras, you know, like these guys were like the strong,

1265
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: silent types and they did not reveal much about themselves,

1266
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: especially if they were fucking hitmen and worked for the mob. Right,

1267
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: So the son is trying to figure out his dad.

1268
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: But then Tom Hanks is also you know, forging his

1269
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: own way with his father figure, which is the Paul

1270
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: Newman character. So yeah, I mean, if somebody were to

1271
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: guess that these two movies are about dads, I would say,

1272
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: you're right, But also you're wrong because we were talking

1273
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: about Tom Hanks in a wool fucking coat.

1274
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 4: That's like the high Road version of this episode. We're like,

1275
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 4: he's fucking cute when he's beefy. That's where we are,

1276
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 4: and you're like, or it could be about the complicated

1277
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: relationships between fathers and sons and emotionally withholding society we

1278
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: live in, sure, but beef is where it's at.

1279
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Because I will say, you know, I feel like

1280
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks has held a gun in other movies that

1281
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: he's been in. I mean, he held a gun and

1282
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: Forrest Gump, what are your thoughts on him in that movie?

1283
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: Didn't work for because he was happy.

1284
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: He was a joyful gun holding motherfucker in that movie.

1285
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 3: This movie, he's holding a gun. It means business.

1286
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm like Forest Gump was happy holding a gun in Vietnam.

1287
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, but.

1288
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: I will listen, you had me on period piece because normally,

1289
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this in the Bonus episode

1290
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: about Colin Firth in The Kingsman, and you know when

1291
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: somebody has a retro look, you're like.

1292
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Hello Tom Hanks.

1293
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: Two, being that he is generally the funny guy who

1294
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: we laugh at when he freaks the fuck out on something.

1295
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: So he is playing against type. He is an a

1296
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: period piece where he is not smiling and he's holding

1297
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: a Tommy gun. I'm starting to understand it a little bit,

1298
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Well, yeah, I think it's just

1299
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: against type. But for you personally, do you love a

1300
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: thirties game? Service is something that I don't know about you.

1301
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I have instead of you know, like the posters

1302
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 4: I used to put on my walls when I was

1303
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: a teenager. It was all like the gangsters who shot

1304
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 4: their names into the sides of banks and shit.

1305
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 3: Like, No, I don't have thirty gangsters. I don't think

1306
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: for any gangsters. I don't like violence that much in

1307
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 3: my day to day life.

1308
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: You don't have a poster of Edward G. Robinson on

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Speaker 2: your dail.

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Speaker 4: I took that down twenty years ago. No, kid, this

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01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: is why none of it. This is why none of

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: it made sense, and it snuck up on me. Yeah,

1313
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 4: because this is not even like I don't dress like

1314
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: a thirties personally. I'm not into that era in general

1315
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: in terms of, like, you know, the aesthetics of it

1316
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 4: can be beautiful, and I appreciate it from you know,

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01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 4: the like a clothing making perspective, but there's nothing about

1318
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: that era that's like, yeah, everyone was hot. It's like no,

1319
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: most people were like syphilitic and fucking they got a

1320
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Speaker 4: cold and they died, and there's nothing hot about the thirties.

1321
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Speaker 2: Really, I mean it's temperature wise very hot.

1322
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: Because there was a scene where is it the scene

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: where Tom Hanks and Jude Law are in the diner

1324
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:20,919
Speaker 1: and Tom Hanks is sweating in that diner and I'm like, Okay,

1325
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: it's because of these fucking boiled clothes, these nineteen thirties

1326
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 1: oppressively hot clothes.

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: And our guy is sweating in this diner right now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's his character or if

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: that's just the man in the fucking jacket, but I

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01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: was like, damn, those clothes are hot, man.

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Speaker 4: That is a supreme acting that we couldn't tell. But

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01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 4: him being hot is hot. I don't forget it.

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Speaker 1: Tom Hanks sweating in wool clothes is.

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Speaker 2: Doing it for you.

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Speaker 5: I think it is because he was all sweating and

1336
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 5: Joe versus the fuck, you know, And I wasn't like, yeah,

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 5: that's totally my type, sweating in a diner with like

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 5: a hot cup of coffee, like black coffee, and a

1339
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 5: fucking cinnamon bun that was made that morning and a

1340
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 5: fucking whirligig toy and like, I don't know, like that

1341
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 5: fucking wind up camera that Jude law has like all

1342
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: of that compounded to make him sweating in that booth

1343
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: a little bit hot.

1344
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm as much as I'm sitting here having

1345
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with you right now. I get it,

1346
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: because I will say that this was a first watch

1347
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: for me. I never saw this movie before now, and

1348
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought it was really compelling. I

1349
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: thought the story. I mean, obviously this they say that

1350
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: this was Paul Newman's last kind of on screen role,

1351
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: so it has that kind of, you know, historical fact

1352
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, the actual story itself I thought

1353
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: was really compelling. And I mean, obviously I love a

1354
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: period piece, but it's that thing where I was like, yeah,

1355
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: I think because we have known Tom Hanks as a

1356
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: certain person splash the urbs, like he's a fun loving,

1357
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: romantic comedy guy, and when you see him in this

1358
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: role where he is like kind of a mean guy

1359
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: gangster but definitely not fun loving, right loose or fancy free,

1360
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: it is sort of a shock and maybe like the

1361
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: shock of it is sort of cross wiring with the

1362
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: attractiveness of it, right.

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 4: I think so because I stood up and took notice

1364
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 4: and he's, like I said, He's done tons of dramas

1365
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 4: you know, Philadelphia Castaway, like, he has done serious roles

1366
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: as well, but not attractive until this for me til

1367
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: two thousand and two Rode to per Dish, And I

1368
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 4: have to say that last scene with Paul Newman is

1369
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 4: so gorgeous. There are three scenes in this movie that

1370
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: I find so incredibly beautiful that I would I actually

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 4: would say, and I don't usually do that is I

1372
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: don't usually put rank things in this way. This movie

1373
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 4: is easily one of my top tens. Wow, easily one

1374
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 4: of my top tens. Hotness factor aside, yeah me not

1375
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 4: getting it until aside. I absolutely love the story. I

1376
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: love the pacing, I love the script. I love everything

1377
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 4: about this movie. The look, the feel, the vibe, the tone.

1378
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 4: It is a beautiful fucking movie.

1379
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was great. So many good people

1380
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: in it. I mean, Jude Law's character alone is like

1381
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: worth the price of admission. He's kind of this like,

1382
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, psychopath, like a It kind of reminds

1383
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 1: me of like an H. H. Holmes guy, even though

1384
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: it's like that's that came way before.

1385
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 2: I guess this era.

1386
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: But but yeah, just in that really he's like a

1387
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: real twisted weirdo in this movie.

1388
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: And I haven't seen him in a long time.

1389
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know obviously, like I hadn't

1390
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: seen him since his sort of heyday, I guess. But

1391
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: when I watched this movie, you know, I was like,

1392
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: oh shit, I forgot about jew Law.

1393
01:11:58,400 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: This is pretty great.

1394
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's again a great actor. He's got his

1395
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 4: natural hairline.

1396
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:03,879
Speaker 3: In this movie.

1397
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 4: He's doing some gangle jangle down some railroad tracks, like

1398
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 4: he's fucking murdering people for hire so we can get

1399
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 4: a good picture. Like there's an artistry to him. He's

1400
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: off the rails and it is really interesting. And he's

1401
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: again like he's this young, hot British actor guy who's

1402
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 4: playing this like scabby, murderous Chicago photographer and he does

1403
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: it well.

1404
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 3: I would never have guessed that for him. Yeah, but

1405
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: he does it well well.

1406
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know me, listen, I'm in love with ghosts,

1407
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 1: A love, a love a nineteen forties World War Two pilots,

1408
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: So of course it's not a big leap to nineteen

1409
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: thirties Chicago area gangster for me.

1410
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: I see it.

1411
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: I see why you would think that Tom Hanks is attractive.

1412
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: I think that he is definitely playing against his type

1413
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: or his you know, normal role, and shit, it's dark,

1414
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of menacing. He's walking around an old timey

1415
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: clothes with an old timey gun.

1416
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 4: And he's got this real connection to his We're seeing

1417
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 4: this real connection to his son developed throughout the film,

1418
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 4: which is so fascinating to me that as he's losing

1419
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 4: his own father figure, he becomes a better father figure.

1420
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: To his son.

1421
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 4: Yes, and I just I love to see it. I'd

1422
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: love to see it. I would make out with Tom

1423
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: Hanks in this movie.

1424
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: Future boyfriends take note. You might have to get in

1425
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: some fucking trouser socks.

1426
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: You might need some like sock suspenders, like you know

1427
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: those things they put around to keep the socks up

1428
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: some clock. You might have to wear some knickers, get

1429
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 4: some Koulotts, but actually don't. And that's the thing that's

1430
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 4: fascinating too. Like again, that whole esthetic is not what

1431
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: does it for me? If someone showed up to my

1432
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 4: house on like a penny farthing with a fucking realcoat tomorrow,

1433
01:13:58,760 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 4: I'd be.

1434
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 3: Like, pays bye.

1435
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 4: But if it was Tom Hanks, I'd be like, take

1436
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: me for the right of my life.

1437
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1438
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: You're saying this, the secret to this sauce is old

1439
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: timey clothes, Tom Hanks. Maybe not cutting carbs that week,

1440
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: maybe just sort of having some desserts mm hm. You know,

1441
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: maybe he's post vacation, maybe he's just come back.

1442
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: From a cruise.

1443
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: And then no smiles whatsoever, no fun and that is it.

1444
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: That's all it takes for him to say your dream man,

1445
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 2: I love it.

1446
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: That's it.

1447
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 4: Amp up the clothing quota by double put on two shirts,

1448
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 4: put on two pairs of pants, put on two coats,

1449
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 4: put a hat under your hat, and then say nothing.

1450
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: And if you're Tom Hanks, I'm all yours.

1451
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: Damn well, listen. What a bold and unexpected choice.

1452
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 2: And I absolutely love it. I am here for it.

1453
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: This is a fucking safe space for any of this.

1454
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 3: And you know this.

1455
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 1: You know this I've revealed just as shocking information.

1456
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: So I'm here.

1457
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 4: I appreciate it because again, this is this is probably

1458
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 4: the first episode that I'm going to play in full

1459
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 4: for my therapist before next meeting, and I'd be like, look,

1460
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 4: before we even hop on this phone, you better listen

1461
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 4: to this from start to finish.

1462
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: Listen I think when it comes down to it, I

1463
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: think the common thread between our two movies is said, somehow,

1464
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: we're not Hayday people. We're not like, hey, give me

1465
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: this actor in the most iconic, best role. We need

1466
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: him later on, when the foundation has settled a little bit,

1467
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: and when they're doing sort of like pensive, thoughtful, sort

1468
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: of you know, menacing things like we don't want the

1469
01:15:54,040 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: perfect specimen, funny, charming guy, we want the sad contempt plate.

1470
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 4: Of asing guy, and crucial the guy who shuts the

1471
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 4: fuck up.

1472
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 3: When they stop talking.

1473
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: I mean, what a dream.

1474
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm all in. It is crucial to the combo.

1475
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that you were able to pull similarities

1476
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 4: out of these themes in that way, because there is

1477
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 4: something about like you said, which I think is perfect

1478
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 4: and I love it. The foundation settling that just meets

1479
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: me where I live right now. Yeah, and that's a

1480
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 4: big part of it.

1481
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 2: Again, I'll say it, Timothy Shallomey could.

1482
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: Never even if he had a Tommy gun, No, thank you, yea,

1483
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: even if he had a.

1484
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: Tommy gun and it was forty five years from now,

1485
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna buy that that dude is going to

1486
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 4: have a bad day. Come see me when the snail

1487
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 4: under eye masks are not working anymore and you just

1488
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 4: look like you got punched in the face in both eyes.

1489
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 3: Every day by life, by life.

1490
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jesus Christ.

1491
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 4: Oh, this was a fun one. Thank you, Thank you

1492
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 4: for not calling the cops on me, thank you for

1493
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 4: hearing me listen, thank you for understanding me.

1494
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I love thought experiments like this.

1495
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: I love when we have a reason, a really specific

1496
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: reason to talk about a movie like where we have

1497
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: to just say it, say what's on our minds and

1498
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: leave it there on the table.

1499
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 2: But it was such a blast.

1500
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for indulging my fascination with old Brad Pitt.

1501
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: But I would like to ask you what are the

1502
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: movies for next week's episode?

1503
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: I am excited.

1504
01:17:55,160 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 4: The movies for next week are The Lost Boys from

1505
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty seven and The Watermelon Woman from nineteen ninety six.

1506
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is that theme?

1507
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 4: And you guys are lucky because we also have a

1508
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 4: bonus episode coming up this Thursday.

1509
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 3: We do.

1510
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: We have a bonus, so get on that.

1511
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: Ditch your premium tip if you want a bonus with us.

1512
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 1: We have a lot of fun, it gets real wild.

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01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 1: We don't really edit them too much, so you're getting unfiltered,

1514
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: you know. We're like it's like the GQ article of

1515
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,879
Speaker 1: our podcasts where we get yes raw.

1516
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: And we're always in tears always when we record.

1517
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: Even when we're talking about mcgruber. If you want to

1518
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: email us, please do so at I Saw what you

1519
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: did Pot at Gmail.

1520
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,120
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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,439
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Speaker 2: didn't mention the merch.

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Speaker 1: It's in the exactly Right shop at Exactlyrightmedia dot com.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, go there, do it. I'm thinking about Tom

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Speaker 4: Hanks again.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 4: I zoned out, like a coat without a button on

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01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 4: it too, like a coat that's so warm you don't

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01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 4: need to close it.

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm gonna stop now, just get.

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01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: Into the tree trunk of his bod all right. I

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: gotta stop because I'm getting this is like what do

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Speaker 1: you call? You call it pethouse for it was called

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,919
Speaker 1: pet house for that's.

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01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: What I was called.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, let's stop it before we get sued.

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Speaker 4: But this is a blast. I love doing this podcast

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 4: with you. I love movies. I love talking me too.

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Speaker 2: Always a pleasure. Thanks everybody for listening, See you next time.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 4: This has been an exactly right production. Our producer is

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Speaker 4: Alexis A Marissi. Our engineers on Aalise Nelson. Our theme

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01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 4: song by Tom bry Foegel. Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our

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Speaker 4: executive producers are Georgia Hardstark, Caring Till Gareth and Danielle Kramer.

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Speaker 4: Follow us on Instagram and Twitter at I saw pod

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,679
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Speaker 4: and please don't forget to listen, subscribe, leave us a

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