Speaker 1: I'm Honey German. My parents are Dominican. I was born
Speaker 1: and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
Speaker 1: I'm a body positive addicate. I'm Carolina bermudez Na, but
Speaker 1: i was born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife,
Speaker 1: a mama, and a worker. Be this is life in Spanglish.
Speaker 1: And we have been recording now for what I feel
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks. And I said, I always
Speaker 1: look forward when I see this on my calendar, because
Speaker 1: like there are other things that pop up on the calendar,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, and you're like, ignore, dismiss,
Speaker 1: I'm busy, but this one now, I'm ready for it.
Speaker 1: I'm ready, and you know what, we have wedding bells
Speaker 1: on the brain right now. And so there are so
Speaker 1: many people who are talking about like at least I
Speaker 1: know one of my friends just got engaged and I
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier for her. She's older, so it's not
Speaker 1: like you know when we were younger that you get
Speaker 1: engaged and you know she's an she's in her late thirties,
Speaker 1: and I'm really just so excited for her that she
Speaker 1: found her man. But just in't speaking with her. It
Speaker 1: got me thinking about my own wedding, and I don't
Speaker 1: even think we ever got into your wedding, honey. We
Speaker 1: can definitely talk about my wedding. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of different sasonas that went into that wedding. Really, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I want to hear and tell me everything.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about like wedding planning and everything.
Speaker 1: Because my friend was asking me, She's like, can I
Speaker 1: pick your brain? Like what did you do? And I
Speaker 1: was like, girl, I had a wedding planner. I was working.
Speaker 1: I had three jobs at the time. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just there was no way that I was going to
Speaker 1: add wedding planning the way that I knew I wanted
Speaker 1: it to be, you know what I mean, Like I was,
Speaker 1: there's no way. So I definitely got a wedding planner,
Speaker 1: but I want to hear about yours. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: my older sister she does wedding planning. We also you know,
Speaker 1: she's like she loves different things. So as soon as
Speaker 1: I got engaged, she was like, this is my wedding.
Speaker 1: I'm planning everything. So yes, so luckily, but I wasn't
Speaker 1: paying her, so I had to be involved because you
Speaker 1: know this was pro bono, So I did help a
Speaker 1: lot with wedding planning, and I did have a lot
Speaker 1: to do, like picking choosing. I had a destination wedding.
Speaker 1: What kind of wedding did you have, Carolina, Well, it
Speaker 1: was destination for other people because it was in New
Speaker 1: York City. So I was like, we are getting married
Speaker 1: in the city, like we were living in Brooklyn at
Speaker 1: the time. So we decided that we tried to do
Speaker 1: a destination We went to different places in Miami thinking
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have a wedding and we're like, no, it's
Speaker 1: a city wedding. So we did it in Manhattan. In Manhattan, well, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. It was crazy. I'll tell you guys where
Speaker 1: I got married and stuff, and if you guys look
Speaker 1: it up, the place is just it's breathtaking. Um church wedding. No, well,
Speaker 1: you know, my husband's Jewish, um Catholic, so we couldn't
Speaker 1: get married in the church, which was just like a
Speaker 1: really big deal to me because my grandfather was very
Speaker 1: involved in the church and um unfortunately he passed before
Speaker 1: we got engaged. But um, I wanted the element of
Speaker 1: having a priest, and then Mark wanted a rabbi. So
Speaker 1: we got married at this place. It's called the Angel
Speaker 1: or in Sons Foundation. If you've never seen it before,
Speaker 1: it is so incredible. I won't be listening for like
Speaker 1: one minute. Begose no Google Google image because it is um.
Speaker 1: So it was basically one of the first synagogues in
Speaker 1: New York City and um it went through many different
Speaker 1: like uh phases where people tried to tear it down.
Speaker 1: It was always preserved. And then I believe back like
Speaker 1: in the eighties or the nineties or something, they made
Speaker 1: it into an event space. And looking at this picture
Speaker 1: right now, what do you think you are Mega Marco
Speaker 1: or some sh it, because this is gorgeous. Wow, it's
Speaker 1: like an overhead photograph. It has like a gothic feel. Um.
Speaker 1: They did a lot of like VH one shows there.
Speaker 1: I think they did like a Divas show there once. Um.
Speaker 1: But like the story about it is really so beautiful.
Speaker 1: Because Mark and I were at the time we were engaged,
Speaker 1: we said we wanted to go and look at different
Speaker 1: venues in the city, and um we looked at this
Speaker 1: place from the outside and outside it was so funky.
Speaker 1: We were like, why, like what is this place? How
Speaker 1: did you end up there. The wedding planner, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: wedding planner didn't come until later, Like a wedding planner
Speaker 1: came for like the details, you know, but like this
Speaker 1: finding the location was me and Mark, like we basically
Speaker 1: just said one Saturday morning, let's just go drive around
Speaker 1: the city and look at these different places. So we
Speaker 1: walked in and we both were just like blown away.
Speaker 1: It took our breath away. We asked for somebody because
Speaker 1: there was literally nobody there. We walked in and we
Speaker 1: asked for somebody, were like, how do we reach out
Speaker 1: to someone to get our date or for the venue?
Speaker 1: And they said, oh, we're sorry. You know this is
Speaker 1: booked for another year, Like there's no way that you
Speaker 1: could get married here. And so Mark, ever the thinker,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, like this guy, he blows
Speaker 1: me away. So we're walking out and I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I said, Mark, that place, I said, it
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. Goes, wait, let's go back. So we
Speaker 1: go back in and he goes to the guy and
Speaker 1: he goes, do you have any contracts that aren't signed?
Speaker 1: And he goes, what do you mean? He goes, is
Speaker 1: there anybody who hasn't signed and giving you a payment
Speaker 1: for a contract. Head He's like, we'll give you a
Speaker 1: payment right now if you give us a date. So
Speaker 1: he went to the office. He looked up. There were
Speaker 1: two people that did not have contracts signed. He reached
Speaker 1: out to both of those people were literally waiting there
Speaker 1: right there. Marc is like, I will write you a
Speaker 1: check right now. This is where we want to get married.
Speaker 1: And so romantic of him, I feel like you're telling
Speaker 1: you about a movie. It really it really is. And
Speaker 1: so the guy went downstairs. He went to his office,
Speaker 1: and we're looking around and we're thinking to ourselves, Okay,
Speaker 1: could we do the could we do the ceremony here?
Speaker 1: And could we do this? And like we're just already
Speaker 1: thinking and planning and everything. And so the guy comes
Speaker 1: up and he goes, um, congratulations, you're getting married on
Speaker 1: nine months. So the venue gave you a wedding date.
Speaker 1: There was a person who didn't sign a contract, and
Speaker 1: he reached out to them and he said, we have
Speaker 1: people who are interested. They're here right now. You know,
Speaker 1: if you don't want the venue, we need to know
Speaker 1: because these people would like to have it. And the
Speaker 1: person said yeah, we're not going to get married there,
Speaker 1: and he gave us the date that day and he
Speaker 1: said you will be getting married June and that was it.
Speaker 1: So that's how we picked up. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's super random, but I love it. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: So where did you get married? Where did you what
Speaker 1: was your destination? Was it American Republic? Yeah, we actually
Speaker 1: got married in Punta Kana And the only reason, the
Speaker 1: only reason we got married was because my Agualita was
Speaker 1: ninety four years old, blessed, and I was not getting
Speaker 1: married without her there. When you know, when my mother
Speaker 1: got pregnant from me, she had just arrived in America
Speaker 1: as an immigrant, and she was like, I can't keep
Speaker 1: this baby here with me, so I was shipped off
Speaker 1: to my Ajuanita, and my Ajuanita kept me until I
Speaker 1: was like pop, practically ready for kindergarten. So I couldn't
Speaker 1: get married without her being there. So I was like,
Speaker 1: everybody who wants to be at my wedding, guess what,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go to the Medican Republic for sure,
Speaker 1: without a doubt. That's the only thing that other than
Speaker 1: Nony obviously, she was the only person at the wedding
Speaker 1: that really really mattered to me because you know, I
Speaker 1: had not got married, I had not had kids. So
Speaker 1: I felt like Jose because she was very Catholic, my grandmother,
Speaker 1: and she was like the veil the bride the church.
Speaker 1: So I know that that gave her, you know, it
Speaker 1: made her a little heart smile and oh for sure.
Speaker 1: But then again also there's a lot of turn up
Speaker 1: in Dominican Republic, so it kind of like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of turn up. It kind of like all worked out.
Speaker 1: So like all of our friends, we actually had like
Speaker 1: sixty guests, but they all have to fly there, so
Speaker 1: that's a lot of people to move a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but our friends, like Nina only I really love you.
Speaker 1: We have like really amazing friends. You know, people love us,
Speaker 1: people always want to be in our house. So we
Speaker 1: were there for a whole week, and you know, so
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes you spend thirty, forty, fifty, sixty dollars
Speaker 1: even a hundred thousand dollars on a wedding and then
Speaker 1: you know it's over, and like one day, like we said,
Speaker 1: like you know what, why don't we make it a
Speaker 1: weekend thing, have a welcome barbecue, take the girls to
Speaker 1: the spa have a goodbye brunch. So that's the main
Speaker 1: reason we decided out a destination wedding, and the place
Speaker 1: where we got married was Proa, My beautiful We went
Speaker 1: back after Oh my gosh, I'm special and you were
Speaker 1: probably like, that's where I walked. That's where they threw
Speaker 1: the rose pedals. I do right there. That's where our
Speaker 1: little rose tent was at. That's where Nooni's friend got
Speaker 1: trashed and passed out, kidding, not trashed and slept on
Speaker 1: the beach. That woke up my wedding. My souter like,
Speaker 1: where's your nephew. I'm like, I don't know he went
Speaker 1: out with Noon When he's like, oh, he was walking
Speaker 1: to the room. Girl, they found him face down in
Speaker 1: the sand on the beach with his passport is here, teenager,
Speaker 1: I will I will not marry you, and then I
Speaker 1: will kill you if something would have happened to my nephew.
Speaker 1: I because those passports, man, you know what I mean, crazy,
Speaker 1: they lifted take that picture off. Don't tell me, I
Speaker 1: mean seriously, because I know all about that stuff. But
Speaker 1: so like, destination wedding so different from a wedding that's
Speaker 1: at your location. Because like, for example, everybody flew in,
Speaker 1: like my Maya Belita was flown in from San Francisco.
Speaker 1: She had to fly to Florida, and then she had
Speaker 1: to wait in Florida for a week or two because
Speaker 1: she was in her nineties as well. And the beautiful
Speaker 1: complaining because you know what you guys give you like me,
Speaker 1: he was high, No, she was ready. She had her
Speaker 1: miss d D like she was red D. Like so,
Speaker 1: my mom had six kids. Out of all of the
Speaker 1: six kids, she went to every single wedding. My grandfather,
Speaker 1: like I said, he passed unfortunately before mine, but they
Speaker 1: went to every single one of my mom's kids weddings.
Speaker 1: And it was so special, so special. I have her
Speaker 1: be a part of it. But like, you know, the
Speaker 1: thing is, I look back on it and it's like
Speaker 1: Mark and I looked at each other. Somebody once said,
Speaker 1: you could either have a perfect wedding or a perfect marriage.
Speaker 1: You decide. We had the most spectacular wedding. Nothing went
Speaker 1: wrong like for us. It was just like it was
Speaker 1: so beautiful, so special. Oh my gosh. I kept on
Speaker 1: thinking to myself too, and this is just the way
Speaker 1: that I think. I kept on thinking, like, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: to happen. And I shouldn't have done that because like
Speaker 1: the whole time I was waiting for something and everything
Speaker 1: was just great, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like anybody who's wedding planning, like, don't let people get
Speaker 1: in your brain that like something's going to happen or
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And like for those people
Speaker 1: who don't have a wedding planner, you don't need a
Speaker 1: wedding planner. I needed a wedding planner because, like, truthfully
Speaker 1: I did. I had three jobs at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: so I was working for us still, I was working
Speaker 1: for Elvis Durran Show, and then I also was still
Speaker 1: freelancing and doing like you know, my spide gigs and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So you didn't have time you managing
Speaker 1: that and the wedding. The wedding was too important for
Speaker 1: me to like let it go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, looking back on it now, zero regrets
Speaker 1: on having a wedding planner. The same thing with me.
Speaker 1: You know, even though my my sister was my wedding planner,
Speaker 1: she killed it. She did amazing, you know, she knew
Speaker 1: all the details that I didn't know, especially me, girl,
Speaker 1: I carried everything to another country. Like you think I
Speaker 1: would have been able to do this on my own. No,
Speaker 1: you need somebody that's precise, that is super specific, that
Speaker 1: has like an I mean, that's the thing. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why I really appreciated Claudia, the woman who took
Speaker 1: care of our wedding, because it was like like every
Speaker 1: single detail down to like the handkerchiefs that they handed
Speaker 1: out when people walked in. They had our our initials
Speaker 1: embroidered in the date and I said, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we had so many of those left over.
Speaker 1: And I said, Mark, these are so special the boys
Speaker 1: will carry when when they get married. You know. I
Speaker 1: just found a box the other day. It was like
Speaker 1: a Tiffany box. I'm like, what's in here? Like my
Speaker 1: veil was in there and like my ash. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh look at this. I kept it because I'm I
Speaker 1: throw everything out. But I was like, I guess not,
Speaker 1: do you? Oh my gosh, no, I know it out
Speaker 1: throw it out. I just don't like clutter, Like it's
Speaker 1: like I hate clutter. I don't and es, since I
Speaker 1: live in in an apartment, I don't have, you know,
Speaker 1: a basement I don't have an addict, so it's like
Speaker 1: whatever closet space I have, that's it. No, I'm so
Speaker 1: sentimental though. I even kept like the little hair tied,
Speaker 1: like my mom gave me a little tiny it was tiny,
Speaker 1: tiny um a little Swarovski um blue crystal pin just
Speaker 1: for me to put underneath my hair. It was literally
Speaker 1: underneath my hair. That was my something blue and I
Speaker 1: still have it and it's just so special to me.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a daughter, but hopefully one day when
Speaker 1: my kids get married, you know, whoever they choose, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll be receptive to, like, you know, having something that
Speaker 1: I wore on my wedding. But like the one thing
Speaker 1: that I will say that was the toughest the guest list.
Speaker 1: The guest list was tough. Who are you telling did
Speaker 1: you split it down the middle, like you get fifty
Speaker 1: guests get guests? Did you do something like that? There
Speaker 1: were so many rules with this place that we were
Speaker 1: only allowed to have. I think it was like to
Speaker 1: we we didn't want a huge wedding. I think it
Speaker 1: was like two people capacity. We went down to two
Speaker 1: because we were like, we don't want those fifty extra people,
Speaker 1: like there's already gonna be people working and everything. Like
Speaker 1: we really wanted it to be as intimate as possible,
Speaker 1: and so we just went through. The problem was it
Speaker 1: wasn't us with the guestless, it was the people on
Speaker 1: the guest less. Who's going to have an issue with
Speaker 1: this person? Who? How do how do we put this
Speaker 1: person away from the other person? Yeah, Familia, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it gets messy, It gets messy.
Speaker 1: We won't even talk about the seating arrangement. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: But even the invites is already like nah, this one
Speaker 1: doesn't like this one and I like, but we were
Speaker 1: good with the invites, you know, like we didn't have
Speaker 1: any issues with that. You know, my mom is it's
Speaker 1: kind of like weird with stuff like that, like don't
Speaker 1: invite this one and don't invite you, don't talk to
Speaker 1: that one. But I didn't let her dictate, So your wedding,
Speaker 1: it's not your wedding, mom. Yeah, she wasn't planning, she
Speaker 1: wasn't paying, So I kind of like it was like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna deal with whoever is there. I just won't
Speaker 1: sit you with them for sure. Well, you know, the
Speaker 1: funny thing for me was like, okay, so we're inviting
Speaker 1: people and Mark and I I'm such an office supply person.
Speaker 1: I went and got these huge post it and in
Speaker 1: the apartment that we lived in back in the day,
Speaker 1: it was all windows. So one day we sat down
Speaker 1: where like we are going to do these seating charts,
Speaker 1: and I got these big old post it notes. They
Speaker 1: were like they were they were huge, like not your
Speaker 1: little post it notes, right exactly exactly. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, here we go, We're gonna have it.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember how many tables. Let's say it
Speaker 1: was ten. I said, we're gonna we have ten tables.
Speaker 1: We are getting this done now. So like we went
Speaker 1: through it so that I could give it to my planner,
Speaker 1: and when she thought, she was like, I've never had
Speaker 1: anybody be as detailed as this, Like it was crazy.
Speaker 1: The funny thing for me was and actually, I feel
Speaker 1: like one of the most beautiful parts as far as
Speaker 1: our wedding went, was the mixture of the Jewish ceremony
Speaker 1: with a Catholic ceremony, Like I had a huppa, which
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was like I never I've
Speaker 1: never seen you know, I'd gone to a Jewish wedding before,
Speaker 1: but like I'd never seen myself under a koppa getting married.
Speaker 1: You know when you picture yourself getting married. Don't judge
Speaker 1: me doing that track a little bit. So I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm thinking sex in the city. You know
Speaker 1: Charlotte when she converted, I did not convert, no, because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm like, oh, she did same thing, Charlotte.
Speaker 1: That don't mind me and my ignorance, but I don't
Speaker 1: have it. No, no, no, And it's great to ask questions. No. Um.
Speaker 1: So we basically had a rabbi and we had a priest,
Speaker 1: and we did a combined ceremony, so I did have
Speaker 1: to learn some um Hebrew to say at the wedding,
Speaker 1: and Um, Mark was just like, you know, he went
Speaker 1: with whatever it was that Um was involved with, like
Speaker 1: the Catholic wedding. But yeah, it was just really touching
Speaker 1: to see, like there are pictures of Mark's dad who's
Speaker 1: no longer with us, and you could see him tearing
Speaker 1: up when the rabbi was was giving us our blessing,
Speaker 1: and like Mark stepped on the glass and I mean
Speaker 1: that was just it was really just the perfect combination
Speaker 1: of both of our religions and cultures. And like you know,
Speaker 1: I always say to Mark, the only thing that I
Speaker 1: regret about our wedding was that we couldn't extend it
Speaker 1: too longer, you know what I mean, Like I wanted
Speaker 1: it to end at like two o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I just even talking
Speaker 1: about it now just gives me the best memories. You
Speaker 1: look so happy, you know, you guys are listening to us,
Speaker 1: But I can actually see her. She's been cheesing the
Speaker 1: whole time. You could tell she's still in love with
Speaker 1: her man. I you know what I mean, He's I
Speaker 1: I'll keep him, you know. No, that's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: like we're now. We just celebrated ten years together, and
Speaker 1: we looked at each other and we're like ten years married,
Speaker 1: thirteen years together. We started dating. He didn't ask me
Speaker 1: to marry him until we were three years in. And
Speaker 1: then that whole story. You guys have to prepare yourself
Speaker 1: for that story, because that story was so freaking romantic.
Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding you. It's like, not make me cry, Okay, No,
Speaker 1: it was honestly everything I would expect from Mark Grossman, Carolina,
Speaker 1: Can I tell you I fantasize about a very romantic
Speaker 1: proposal but it didn't happen. But continue, I want to
Speaker 1: hear what was your proposal? Like, no, tell me now?
Speaker 1: So okay, So me and me have known each other
Speaker 1: practical since we were like twenty two years old, and
Speaker 1: then later while we were living together, we were going
Speaker 1: to Paris right and moving together like five six years
Speaker 1: already we have We've had a very long relation, and
Speaker 1: I was like Paris, I said, oh God, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: propose if this is it? This is it going down? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole time I'm in Paris. Oh I feel towered today. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe today going to the top. He's taken me to
Speaker 1: the top and he's gonna me on the river the
Speaker 1: CN okay proposal today girl trip ends, no proposal. I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, no love lockets at
Speaker 1: that like bridge or whatever. I don't know. I've never
Speaker 1: been to Paris, what anything. He was not into anything.
Speaker 1: I set up a photo shoot, you know what he did?
Speaker 1: He was like, I ain't going it at When I
Speaker 1: came back, I was like this man, and I don't
Speaker 1: know why I hacked myself up? Women, Why do we
Speaker 1: do things like that? No need the missed opportunity though?
Speaker 1: I yea's actually here? Did you, Nudy get on the
Speaker 1: mic right now? Why on earth did you not know?
Speaker 1: I want to know why did you not take that opportunity?
Speaker 1: And nuony, you're so cute? Come over here, Nudy. This
Speaker 1: is the perfect opportunity for you in Paris. It is
Speaker 1: the city of love and light. It wasn't the right time.
Speaker 1: What do you think five years? Your listeners are going
Speaker 1: to crucify me for this. But it has to be
Speaker 1: the right time, not when the person that wants the
Speaker 1: proposal wants. It has to be when it's right when
Speaker 1: when not not when I wanted, but when we feel
Speaker 1: it's the right time. Paris wasn't the right time for me.
Speaker 1: Paris wasn't the I mean, Paris is the right time
Speaker 1: for everybody. That's just it in your mind. It's the
Speaker 1: right time, I think for you. You're thinking Paris is
Speaker 1: the right place, but is it the right time? Well? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know what, let me let me hear you
Speaker 1: out on this. So what you're saying is that you
Speaker 1: guys were five years in right, five six years into
Speaker 1: your relationship, let's say around that time in your mind,
Speaker 1: what were you thinking would have been the perfect time
Speaker 1: and place? Was it indeed the proposal that you did.
Speaker 1: I don't think if if it would have went down
Speaker 1: in Paris, I don't think it would have been that
Speaker 1: genuine would I think it would have been more like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're in Paris, I have to do this. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would have been it would have been as
Speaker 1: genuine as it was when I did it. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, Noony, that you knew, you know your convictions,
Speaker 1: and you know that you forced it just because we
Speaker 1: were in a beautiful place and people think, oh, Paris
Speaker 1: the place of love. No I wanted it to come
Speaker 1: from my heart when it was ready and everything was
Speaker 1: right and it was perfect. I love you, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love you too. But that is beautiful, you know why?
Speaker 1: Because he didn't do it for the story. So many
Speaker 1: people do things for the story or for the you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And now a right, it would
Speaker 1: have looked amazing on Instagram that you I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to look that's right. That's because Noony is
Speaker 1: the man and he still remains the man in my eyes.
Speaker 1: I am forever new Nie Fan. I am the president
Speaker 1: of the Nownie Fan Club. Now he's deep. Now I
Speaker 1: needed to mean something. I'm just I know that is
Speaker 1: beautiful though, you know what, He's so right. So many
Speaker 1: people think, like, oh, this is the perfect opportunity, whether
Speaker 1: I'm in Times Square in Manhattan or you know, you
Speaker 1: know your relationship too, and you know what. He did
Speaker 1: it the following Christmas, you know, at home in our
Speaker 1: apartment just us too. You know, it wasn't it was
Speaker 1: just perfect. Well, he says, there was a backstore, he
Speaker 1: took the ring to Christmas dinner and then he didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it because there were too many people there.
Speaker 1: I did. I just got it, probably a little stage right,
Speaker 1: you know, it was something. It was just a lot
Speaker 1: of people. That's a lot, I'm sure. Christmas. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was dinner time. They had Carol and then there was
Speaker 1: all kind of stuff going on. This we did have
Speaker 1: a man doing Christmas Carol's Okay, that's a lot. I
Speaker 1: don't blame you now, need for waiting until the right time,
Speaker 1: and like, but see, this is this beautiful. I'm picturing
Speaker 1: it in my mind right now. You got the drove
Speaker 1: off after after and he still had that ring burning
Speaker 1: a hole in his pocket. And when we get home,
Speaker 1: we're like undressing and then I look back he on
Speaker 1: the floor. I'm like, when the hell, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I love this for you guys. And now look at you.
Speaker 1: Seriously look at that, Carolina. We got no need to
Speaker 1: help on telling these, you know, engagement stories. Now I
Speaker 1: like to hear your engagement story. Oh gosh, no, my
Speaker 1: engagement story is crazy. Um, Mark and I were living together.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you, guys cliff notes. You've probably heard
Speaker 1: this before. I don't know if I've ever told you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: I had no clue that Mark was gonna get it
Speaker 1: was gonna ask me to marry him. I really didn't.
Speaker 1: And Um, one day he says to me, I have
Speaker 1: a meeting all day long. I'm not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to talk to you all day. Don't bother trying to
Speaker 1: reach out, Like it's a long ass meeting, like da
Speaker 1: da da da. And I'm like, okay, oh yeah, He's like,
Speaker 1: I'll see you when I get home, and said, okay,
Speaker 1: I had no idea that he flew out to Columbus,
Speaker 1: Ohio to meet my mom and dad. I guess. He
Speaker 1: called them like a week before and said, you know, hi,
Speaker 1: we then Tata that's what everybody calls them. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to come and see you. And
Speaker 1: they said, what's going on? Mark? Is everything okay? And
Speaker 1: he said, you know, I just I want to see
Speaker 1: if you could make yourself available for me, and you know,
Speaker 1: he got the date in the time and everything. Took
Speaker 1: them out to lunch and told him that he was
Speaker 1: planning on asking me to marry him, and they of
Speaker 1: course said yes. And then he came home that night
Speaker 1: like nothing I knew, nothing, knew nothing, honestly, Like people
Speaker 1: don't do things like this like fly again okay, it
Speaker 1: like that's something that I guess maybe it happened to
Speaker 1: my mom, but like you you know, So then, um,
Speaker 1: one day I'm driving back from the city and I
Speaker 1: get a freaking flat tire and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: like what is going on? Like this is such a disaster,
Speaker 1: you know this and that, and so Mark's like, just
Speaker 1: you know, Mr Fix said, He's like, just don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. Everything will get taken care of. So long
Speaker 1: story short. I end up getting back to my apartment
Speaker 1: and back then our apartment, our elevator opened up into
Speaker 1: the apartments out and so I opened up. I get
Speaker 1: into the apartment and I'm like, why are there candles?
Speaker 1: There's candles everywhere? Like okay, I said, somebody wants some
Speaker 1: sexy time. So he takes me to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: there's there's a bubble bath and there's like champagne and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, it's going down. I was like,
Speaker 1: he's about to get it. This is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a movie where well, we don't
Speaker 1: make movies, but you know what exactly exactly. So I'm ready,
Speaker 1: I like, take off my clothes. I'm doing the backstroke.
Speaker 1: We had a big gass bath. I was like doing
Speaker 1: the backstroke in the bath and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: getting ready, and all of a sudden, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: is he? Where is he? Like? And so he comes in.
Speaker 1: He's fully clothed. He wasn't there. I'm thinking, you're doing
Speaker 1: this together with him? No? No, no, I walk in. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm there, and he said, hold on, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta go change and so he comes,
Speaker 1: I get in the bathtub. I was like, I'm ready
Speaker 1: for this. The zero clue that he's about to propose.
Speaker 1: He comes back in. He's fully clothed, and I'm like what.
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, come on, you know, like what's
Speaker 1: going on? And he gets down on one knee and naked.
Speaker 1: I'm fully naked. There's candlelight everywhere, and I made sure
Speaker 1: I want this for the rest of my life. He
Speaker 1: wants to listening wet and naked. He was like, okay,
Speaker 1: looks good. Where it right? Yes? And I was so nervous.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. I was like what if.
Speaker 1: I was like, what do you I said, do I go?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Oh my gosh, No, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I kept on saying he goes you kept
Speaker 1: on saying no, and I was like, what is she
Speaker 1: saying no to me? And I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Like I'm naked right now, you know that's
Speaker 1: double the nerves just oh my gosh. So then after
Speaker 1: I said yes, and then he got in with me
Speaker 1: and there were people in our kitchen making us like
Speaker 1: a four course meal. It was in It was probably
Speaker 1: one of the most romantic nights of my life, like,
Speaker 1: definitely planned this for months. It was crazy. It sounds
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. But Alina, can we go back to the
Speaker 1: fact that he would naked. I have a thing about
Speaker 1: being nude, you know, even in front of my husband,
Speaker 1: So I cannot even imagine being proposed to in the
Speaker 1: nude girl. No, wait, not only that, but wait, there's one.
Speaker 1: There's literally one picture from after we got engaged. I
Speaker 1: have my hair back in like a bandana, I have
Speaker 1: no makeup on. I look so freaking rough, and I'm
Speaker 1: crying and I like it was just it is, quite honestly,
Speaker 1: probably the ugliest picture of me. My one eyes crossed
Speaker 1: because I had too much champagne. But I didn't even care.
Speaker 1: I was like, my man asked me to marry him.
Speaker 1: It was just such a beautiful thing. The dinner, so like,
Speaker 1: you guys get out, you get dressed, and we get out.
Speaker 1: We get dressed, and there's a chef and we get
Speaker 1: started with the first course and the wine, and we're
Speaker 1: calling people. People are calling us because at that point
Speaker 1: my mom knew that that was gonna be the day
Speaker 1: my parents call and they're like, by this with the
Speaker 1: bone blue to her face, just waiting. They were dying.
Speaker 1: My brothers and sisters called, so it was like every course,
Speaker 1: like other people were calling, so the timing couldn't have
Speaker 1: been better. Like my brothers, my sisters, my friends, my
Speaker 1: best like my best friend knew like every like there
Speaker 1: were so many people who knew that kept the secret
Speaker 1: that I appreciated because like there would have been nothing
Speaker 1: worse than finding out from somebody. Because the way that
Speaker 1: it happened was so amazing, you know what I mean, Wow,
Speaker 1: Like have you ever done something like that for him
Speaker 1: that required tons of planning? Like did you ever pay
Speaker 1: him back? Because that sounds like you're dead? I mean
Speaker 1: I got him a dog during the pandemic, and it's
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake in my life. I uh, I got
Speaker 1: suckered into having a pandemic dog. No, you know what
Speaker 1: it is. Mark is um He's the type of guy
Speaker 1: who doesn't like material things, like he doesn't like gifts,
Speaker 1: he doesn't like things. So for him, the dog was
Speaker 1: huge because he's always wanted a dog. He wanted to
Speaker 1: raise the kids with the German shepherd. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Mesa,
Speaker 1: she is a pizza you know what? And no, she's
Speaker 1: just she's taken over my man, he gives her chee
Speaker 1: chee rubs. Now I get so upset about it. They're
Speaker 1: like obsessed with each other. Mark is not the type
Speaker 1: of person like Um. For example, for our tenda anniversary,
Speaker 1: I got him a really beautiful gift. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I saved up my money. I got him a watch
Speaker 1: and it's not the watch that he wanted. So it's
Speaker 1: like I am the worst. I'm the worst like figuring
Speaker 1: out what to give him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But he's like really good about knowing what to give me.
Speaker 1: So I just figured from now on, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to give him material things. Good just you know, another
Speaker 1: dog next year, I said, one and done. Baby. That
Speaker 1: is it. She is. She is going to live in infamy.
Speaker 1: There will be no more German shepherds on this property
Speaker 1: because she is it. There is it beautiful? Like she
Speaker 1: is beautiful? Like I don't know how we just like
Speaker 1: got sidetracked on this whole thing. But anyway, back to
Speaker 1: the weddings and stuff. We have to talk about this
Speaker 1: because I did want to ask you do people put
Speaker 1: pressure on you, like, especially because you were back in
Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic to have like the best wedding where
Speaker 1: people like were their expectations like, was the bar set
Speaker 1: really high? Um, you know where the bar was? Said? Hi?
Speaker 1: You know that's like when I got married. I married
Speaker 1: like five years ago. That's when snapchat and social media
Speaker 1: was like really big. You know, my followers really wanted in.
Speaker 1: They expected me to post everything. You know. I had
Speaker 1: become kind of like an oversharer, so they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I posted about red party, or ye have posted wedding
Speaker 1: all let us see the dress. So the expectation for
Speaker 1: me to share on social media was extremely high. And
Speaker 1: even on my wedding day, I was sharing because people
Speaker 1: were watching, like people just wanted to be a part
Speaker 1: of it. So that was a little bit of pressure,
Speaker 1: But it was do you regret it? Do you regret it?
Speaker 1: If you could do it all over again, would you
Speaker 1: do the same thing? Would you have given people all
Speaker 1: of that like insight into your really wouldn't have. I
Speaker 1: would not have snapchatted on my wedding. I would not
Speaker 1: have cheered on Instagram on my wedding. I would I
Speaker 1: put it, would have put the phone down. But I
Speaker 1: don't know why I felt like I owed it to
Speaker 1: my followers to be at my wedding. To be fair
Speaker 1: to you, though, let's look at the difference you got
Speaker 1: married in. Yeah, it was five years now, so times
Speaker 1: were like son was when I got married and I
Speaker 1: had a And we've spoken about this before if you
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, I had a no social media
Speaker 1: at my wedding period, point blank. I don't want pictures
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I don't want you tweeting. I didn't want
Speaker 1: nothing that that topic of conversation like is it in
Speaker 1: the invite or how does that? How does that implied?
Speaker 1: So we basically had a website and it said we
Speaker 1: really want people to be in the moment. This is
Speaker 1: such a special day for both of us, like, please
Speaker 1: refrain from using social media and taking pictures, you know.
Speaker 1: Not not that I was worried about anybody posting a
Speaker 1: picture about me. I wanted people to just feel it.
Speaker 1: I wanted people to know, like I gonna get like
Speaker 1: emotional right now. I know what you're saying. It's just
Speaker 1: live the moment. And you know, it's like with social media,
Speaker 1: it's like we don't stop and absorb what's happening sometimes
Speaker 1: because we're like this like recording instead of watching. There
Speaker 1: are very few moments now where you can like really
Speaker 1: just take in like the love, especially after like this pandemic,
Speaker 1: like the love and the warmth of your closest family
Speaker 1: and friends, and like I just knew. And that was
Speaker 1: back in the day. That was eleven, and I was like,
Speaker 1: people were asking, are you gonna have a hashtag? I said,
Speaker 1: fuck no, I'm not having a hashtag. I said. For
Speaker 1: what I said, so people can get like, you know,
Speaker 1: these random pictures. I want people to feel like they
Speaker 1: are in a safe space, like I don't want anybody
Speaker 1: to worry about Like I wanted people to get lit.
Speaker 1: I wanted I mean that bar was popping, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I wanted people to feel safe
Speaker 1: and free. That was really kind of like the message
Speaker 1: of the whole reason why I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: social media. Even my bachelorette party. My bachelorette we went
Speaker 1: to Vegas and it was more relaxing and I told
Speaker 1: of girls, I was like, if any of you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be funny, I didn't want guys, like I
Speaker 1: didn't want guy strippers. I'm just not into it. I said,
Speaker 1: if any of you think it's gonna be funny, you're cute.
Speaker 1: I will be so pissed if you give me a
Speaker 1: guy stripper, I said, I will leave. I will leave.
Speaker 1: I think they're actually icky and just just nasty. By
Speaker 1: the way, no offense to any guy entertainers if you're
Speaker 1: listening to us. But it's just not my thing. My thing,
Speaker 1: but you know, my friends did enjoy them. And if
Speaker 1: you see the footage in my phone a bella Jesus strippers,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just got so emotional. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. You know what it's like reliving that time.
Speaker 1: So for anybody who's getting married, and whether it's your
Speaker 1: first or your second marriage or whatever, it is when
Speaker 1: you find true love for everything that you have inside
Speaker 1: of it, and look, you could be the total opposite.
Speaker 1: You may want people to document everything for you. That's
Speaker 1: what's so special about a wedding is that it's truly yours.
Speaker 1: I have some weddings coming up. Some of them I
Speaker 1: feel like that was too soon. Some of them are like,
Speaker 1: you get married again. I don't know and judge, but whatever.
Speaker 1: But when when it comes to weddings, you know it's
Speaker 1: just gonna feel right. You know, me and only were
Speaker 1: together like eight nine years before we got married. Blast
Speaker 1: he didn't believe in marriage. He didn't want to get married.
Speaker 1: Currently now I begged for a ring. Yeah, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: where's my ring? Where's my ring? Me and you were
Speaker 1: so opposite. Could you're like I did freshure him because
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, bro, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here forever? Girl friend? Like you know,
Speaker 1: I gave him an ultimatum with everything. We're gonna move
Speaker 1: in together or we're breaking up. We're gonna get engaged.
Speaker 1: But because he wasn't moving on anything, he still wanted
Speaker 1: the little hole behind my back and his twenty stop
Speaker 1: it nudy. I'm gonna spank him if I see you
Speaker 1: gotta be out the room. You better be out of
Speaker 1: the room. Because I am his biggest fan. But I
Speaker 1: do not like that. But I was the one because
Speaker 1: you know, I met him at twenty four. So it's
Speaker 1: just like you guys were babies. Twenty four year old
Speaker 1: don't want to win, you don't want to get married.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes like even a thirty year old
Speaker 1: is still kind of like when it comes to men,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, I'm so young. But I'm the
Speaker 1: one that gave him ultimatum on every day. See I
Speaker 1: think number one. I didn't even go ring shopping with Mark.
Speaker 1: Do you know that I never looked at a ring.
Speaker 1: I never picked out a stone. I never looked at like,
Speaker 1: not even the shape. Nothing. I got what I got.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a kindergarten and you get what
Speaker 1: you get and you don't get upset but alone because
Speaker 1: my sister's told him like she wants Prancesscott, don't he
Speaker 1: designed the ring. He designed the ring with his friend
Speaker 1: and that's why it's so special and sentimental to me
Speaker 1: and um one of his dearest friends, Scott, who I adore.
Speaker 1: I like that got poor guy. He probably went through
Speaker 1: it because Mark is very detailed. Mark is like what
Speaker 1: he wants to look down and be like this Mark
Speaker 1: Grossman again, you know so like I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what this thing was gonna look like nothing, but but
Speaker 1: you loved it. I love my ring. I love my ring,
Speaker 1: but the original ring. I still have the original ring.
Speaker 1: I got a new It must have been a good
Speaker 1: as ring. If you still have the original ring ten
Speaker 1: years lead, I do, I do, and um so as
Speaker 1: far as like the ring goes, But like I think
Speaker 1: for me, going back to the reason why I never
Speaker 1: pressured him was because, you know, and I've spoken about
Speaker 1: this to you guys before. I'm the youngest of six.
Speaker 1: Four of my siblings have gotten divorced, and so for
Speaker 1: me marriage, I think I was more scared. I think
Speaker 1: I was just like, yo, if I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: it's got to be forever. Like I don't. And that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I felt so comfortable, like just living
Speaker 1: with him, Like the fact that he asked my parents
Speaker 1: for their blessing to live with each other. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is cool, Like we can live with each
Speaker 1: other and like, let's see where it goes. And I
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to be with him forever, like there
Speaker 1: was no question, you know, But like I never asked him,
Speaker 1: so when are we going to do this? Or you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe just because I was so traumatized
Speaker 1: by seeing what my brothers and sisters went through with
Speaker 1: their divorces, want to force it. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: force it. I was just like, if it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be on him and me
Speaker 1: and will decide, and that's it. You know. So that's
Speaker 1: crazy that you gave gave that thought because you know,
Speaker 1: my mom is like Dominican and listen the tailor she
Speaker 1: married like three or four times. Thinking about the boys.
Speaker 1: I can't stand you. Oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, like we could compare her to
Speaker 1: jail O me Jlo's on the track gro Num, But
Speaker 1: my mom is seventy. We gotta leave her with the
Speaker 1: list of the tail over there. We gotta leave her
Speaker 1: in the eighties. All she needs is a construction dude. Now,
Speaker 1: remember when Elizabeth Taylor married that construction guy and everybody
Speaker 1: he looked like white snake. Yes, I don't even remember
Speaker 1: these things. I must have been a child, but my
Speaker 1: mom was obsessed with Taylor. So was my White Diamonds.
Speaker 1: That's the only woman in the world with the violet eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never seen a picture of this woman's
Speaker 1: violet eyes. But my whole child, it's real, it's real.
Speaker 1: It's real because my mom would say, yes, sah loss
Speaker 1: a horse, Oh my gosh. And my mom, my mom
Speaker 1: would always look at us because we all had brown eyes,
Speaker 1: except for my sister. My sister has gorgeous green eyes.
Speaker 1: My mom would be like Jenny, Jenny has green eyes.
Speaker 1: My my, my great grandmother Arora had green eyes. So
Speaker 1: and how Jenny looked that like that, there's a recessive
Speaker 1: Jeane somewhere. I don't know. And look at my kids.
Speaker 1: I would have had light eyes. I would never even
Speaker 1: gotten married. I mean please, yeah, I would still be
Speaker 1: trolling the streets. These guys would not be safe. We
Speaker 1: are the only two people who could talk about weddings
Speaker 1: and wedding planners and destination weddings and get to Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 1: How this happens. We do not know. You know what?
Speaker 1: We need Andrew to have his microphone on every producing,
Speaker 1: you know, he just lets us go. He's like, this
Speaker 1: sounds like it's gonna be a mess. I love it. Well,
Speaker 1: we are a mess. But you know what, I do
Speaker 1: want people to write in and tell us like about
Speaker 1: their wedding. If you guys have questions, and seriously, because
Speaker 1: you have two totally different perspectives. You've got a destination
Speaker 1: wedding person and a local. You know, I wouldn't say hometown.
Speaker 1: New York City is not my hometown, but it was
Speaker 1: it's where I reside. You know where I live. If
Speaker 1: you guys have questions. Somehow I have a blob. If
Speaker 1: anybody wants to do a destination wedding, I got you.
Speaker 1: I wrote it all up for you. Don't worry. My
Speaker 1: wow right in and I'll reply with the link amazing.
Speaker 1: But you know what, like before we go, honey, I
Speaker 1: do want to ask the biggest question of them all,
Speaker 1: would you do it all over again? Absolutely? Till this day,
Speaker 1: my wedding was the best day in my life. So
Speaker 1: I would just without the snapchat, but I would do
Speaker 1: it for sure. And if I had to get married again,
Speaker 1: I would marry the same man. What about you, Caroline girl? Please?
Speaker 1: You know my answer. I always say, like Marcus literally
Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me. He changed
Speaker 1: my life. He is. I mean, listen, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be sappy. I know there's people rolling their eyes.
Speaker 1: He drives me fucking insane, Like he drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: But there's nobody that I would rather grow old with.
Speaker 1: Like he is seriously the best puzzle piece, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like he is the missing puzzle piece,
Speaker 1: and like, um, would we do it all over again?
Speaker 1: One million percent? I would not change a thing about
Speaker 1: our wedding. Like I didn't girl, I didn't even tell
Speaker 1: you about the children's choir. I mean there's just so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had little kids singing at my wedding.
Speaker 1: People were like, there was not a dry eye and
Speaker 1: the wedding, I mean, oh my gosh, the whole weekend,
Speaker 1: and then after it's like we looked at each other,
Speaker 1: were like, and then we have to go on our honeymoon.
Speaker 1: So no, you know what, every penny started on the
Speaker 1: honeymoon situation. Honeymoon's next honeymoon's on a different day. Because
Speaker 1: I feel like this episode is long. But I'm happy
Speaker 1: me too. I'm so happy, And you guys, hit us
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