1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh, Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Credit Union, featuring Jaguars senior writer John Osher and executive 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: producer Dave de Candice. This week's Yes, I think it's 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: somebody the Jaguars fans know by name, they know him 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: by sight on the field, and he's done some interviews, 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: some media, but I'm not sure people know him that well. 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: And hopefully today we'll get a chance to get to 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: know a little better. An interesting guy, a guy who's 9 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: turned into a leader on the Jaguars, and a guy 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: who's turned into a good football player with a changing 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: role over the years. It's Jaguars safety Jared Wilson and 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Jared First, I appreciate you joining this second. This has 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: been a dis a faults off season on many fronts, unusual, 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: but personally, I want to talk to you about complete 15 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: season last year and now dealing with all this stuff 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: that you've dealt with this year. How has that been 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: different and how have you handled it? I suppose it 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: last year, you know, I played every snap, so I 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: was out there that every single play. So this year 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: I kind of went down with a hamstring injury that 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: I was battling through and Uh, definitely on and on 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the upside of that with my rehab, was able to 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: finish the game last week, and uh, just trying to 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: build off that personally, but uh, just still seeking win, man, 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: trying to seek and win with drop seven straight, So 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: trying to find way to get a win and stay 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: healthy through the whole thing. You mentioned that as well. 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: One in seven. It's a young team. I know you've 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: been asked about this when you've met the media South. 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: How is it handling it. What's your vibe right now 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: in terms of how it feels going forward. I know 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: this is never easy. Yeah, it's it's definitely tough, but 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: I think the guy's spirit in the locker room is uh, 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: definitely just eager. Man. You know, we we were really 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: close on Sunday to winning the game. So we're getting there. 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: We gotta turn that corner and just definitely get it 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: dub and come out with a victory. At the end 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: of the day, there's no more victories, so just continue 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: to just uh kind of just chip away at it. Man. 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: We gotta find a way to get a win, no 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: matter the age group of a team or whatnot. I mean, 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: guys are here to play football. And do it professionally, 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: so I can't really make too many excuses about it. 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: You're obviously the veteran leader, which you know, you're not 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: an old guy, but for the secondary you're an old guy. 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: But and fans and media always talk about that, well, 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the veterans gonna help the younger guys, and when you 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: guys talk about it, and sometimes you're talking cliches and sorry, 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: tell me exactly what you can do for younger players 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: like a C. J. Henderson the guys around you. Is 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: there anything that you do during the game, during the 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: week to help and lead? How does that really occur 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: for the fan who isn't inside of the meeting room 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: with you guys. Mainly is just communication. That's what I 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: feel like in my opinion. Um, I wanna say I'm 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: the most vocal person, but when I do communicate, I 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: think I'm very clear and sound. So especially with a 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: younger guy, you know, a C. J or maybe a DT. 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Damn times, you got a lot of reps in the 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: secondary to ship just really communicated with them, uh, allowing 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: them to slow it down and see exactly what I'm 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: seeing since I've been here while in the same system. Uh, 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: continuously just like talking to those guys, and you know, 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: since it's COVID, it's been a difficult circumstance of trying 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: to get together and watch films. So kind of get 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: on the I pass together and lock in and do 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: some film study like in that nature virtually, so really 68 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: just communicating and seeing everything that I could see, like 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: trying to push it off on the them as well. 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of ways where communication is key. I know you're 71 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: engaged to be married now and communication will be key 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: on that front, as you can imagine. But tell me 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: about that a little bit, and how has that changed 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: your perspective as you grow from a rookie to a 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: older player, more mature person, if you will, well compare 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: and like football to my relationship, communication is key in 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: both aspects, and I know within my relationship with my fiance, 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely got to be on the same page. 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Can't really just be on two different pages or whatnot, 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, so just trying to be on the same page. 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Just just like lining up and playing of defense with everyone. 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: If there's one guy that's not knowing what he's gonna do, 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: it's uh, probably gonna be a bust and a big 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: player happened. So that's the same thing within the relationship, 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to be on the same page and paying attention to 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the details and knowing one another. And the main reason 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: I asked you that obviously she's had a huge influence 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: on how you've approached COVID. I being a nurse at 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: mayor maybe you're a little more in tune to all 90 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: this than your teammates. How did that help you approach this? 91 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: Have you talked to people in the locker room based 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: on the information that you know from her? How big 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: has that been for you? You know, last six seven months. 94 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: I think it's big from her standpoint, from just being 95 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: a nurse and really just being on the front lines 96 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: with it, you know, just as uh I could say 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: from that standport is more personal. But I think everyone 98 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: in and in its entirely throughout this whole COVID season, 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: the guys that didn't opted out, that decided that they 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: We're going to go along and play football. Um, I've 101 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: been real, just like receptive to anything we could do 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: to make sure we do not spread the virus m HM. 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: COVID is a big thing and it's over a million 104 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: people that have been infected by And I don't know 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: how many the death total in the US now, but 106 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I know it's about two hundred thousand, maybe even two fifty. 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: So that's those numbers um itself just speak. So I 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: think everyone, including like myself, not because my fiance is 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: a nurse or whatnot, have been really just receptive of 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: the protocols that have been taking place and trying to 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: get information, you know, just stop the spread of the virus. 112 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Did she make your decision to play easier or harder? 113 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: It was really just about taking them the needed precautions. 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: It was never, honestly, if I was gonna suit up 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: or not. There was a season going on, I definitely 116 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: gonna play, but I just knew that there would be 117 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: steps taken to protect myself first and foremost in my family. 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: Got Yeah, I was not implying that she would make 119 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: it harder on you in that sense. I just meant 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: the communication involved education is such a big part of 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: how guys approached this. I assumed that she would help 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: on that front. Going back to the beginning of your career, 123 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: and you've talked about this a lot, but undrafted guys 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: who make it always fascinate me. How difficult For fans 125 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: who haven't heard you talk about this, how difficult was 126 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: your road and do you still feel like you're overcoming 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: that all the time? Is that still a thing for you? Um, 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: first and foremost you had, the road isn't easy. Uh. Ideally, 129 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: if you can be good enough to go first or 130 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: second round, I would be ideal, But a lot of 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: second chances for those guys, right, Yeah, So I mean 132 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: you fall where you made a draft or if you 133 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: go on drafted like myself. But the main thing is 134 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: don't give up and just throughout this whole entire process, 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: it's just been a learning experience and you continue to 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: just get better as you as you just go through 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: your career. It's never easy. Um, each and every year 138 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I've had to fight to make the team, including this year. 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: So I really think my mindset has never really been, um, 140 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: you're you're a guy that's for sure on this ball 141 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: club or for sure on this football team. So I've 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: just really been taking out approach since I've been here, 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm going I'm in my fifth year now, 144 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, it's just been a process of 145 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: just trying to understand how you fit within the whole 146 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: scheme of things and then the really just going from there. 147 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: You know, now you started the last two years. But 148 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: yet you just told me that you feel like you're 149 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: fighting to make the team. Is that something you tell 150 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: yourself or or that's just how you feel about the NFL. 151 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: You're always fighting. I think that's how I feel about 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. Um. I mean I did you got guys 153 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: that may obviously may not get cut. I mean you 154 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: got time radio your team or or or you know, 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, how dearly they're gonna be there? Um, But 156 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: I feel like, besides, you know, you're your key guys, 157 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: guys that you kind of could for sure, like, yeah, 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't see him going. Um, you're never really knowing 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: this thing. You know, NFL was kind of not for long. 160 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: You've heard that a long time. That's not cliche. So, um, 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely not for long. And yeah, in my opinion, 162 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm always fighting because it's just a performers based league, 163 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, so you got to perform a certain way 164 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: to continue to keep a job. Now I've got to 165 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: thank for a guy who was undrafted, Like you said, 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: take the approach that you take. Everybody's honored when they're 167 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a captain. But Dad had to resonate with you quite 168 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: a bit being named the captain this year. Yeah, I 169 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's really just um first time, you know, 170 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: captain is voting on the point you like by my peers. 171 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: So it's really been the first time that I've been 172 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: I've been a team and been on teams and been 173 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: what you would consider a leader, but not truly like 174 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: a captain in that sense. So just kind of just 175 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: having that respect out of my teammates is pretty good, 176 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know what I means, Uh, just a blessing of 177 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: being a position and just honored to Just like I said, 178 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I try to communicate as much as possible, not just 179 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: with my guys in the back end, but every younger team, 180 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, if they ever anything. I just always try 181 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: to be opening, give my insight on anything I can. 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: Fans who are listening to this, they care about Jared Wilson, 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: but they also care about the Jags. Give them something 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: second half the season. What are you seeing right now 185 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: inside the locker room at practice that makes you believe 186 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: this thing is going in the right direction? What are 187 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: fans not seeing what gives you hope? So just throughout 188 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the weeks. Um, we've dropped seven games in the road, 189 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't say that, uh, you haven't got better. 190 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: I think I honestly think you can get better within 191 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: the loss within a week. So um, constantly through this thing. 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: We're a young team, man, So even with the losses 193 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: we've taken, we continuously just got better. And it's like 194 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: chopping wood, you know, Um, we haven't reached that pinnacle 195 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: of just getting that second win in the in the season, 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: but with no one in the in the locker rooms 197 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: discouraged about it or nothing like that, and we just 198 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: come to work, just got off the field today and 199 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: just had a really good practice. It's really just like 200 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: buying in and stand on the Details's just the basis 201 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: and fundamentals. You hear the same things over and over 202 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: and it can get monotonous, but kind of just sticking 203 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: to it and honing in and eventually a w will 204 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: come from. Not for sure, there's a difference when the 205 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: team's sort of on the decline rather than on the 206 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: way up. It sounds from what you're saying that you 207 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: feel like these guys are still you know, it's still 208 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: going in the right direction. I guess is what I'm 209 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: getting at in terms of feeling, In terms of mood, 210 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: I've heard from people that, hey, there's no fighting on 211 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the sidelines. This is a team that knows that the action. 212 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, Um, we just we've just been trying 213 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: to work our way through it. There hasn't been any animosity, 214 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: no um disagreements, no guys turning on one another. There's 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: no players versus coaches. I think everybody's all in this thing. Oh, 216 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: He's a group and we're just trying to find a 217 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: way to get a win for the gy Wars. It's 218 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: not really no one Yeah, no divide within the team. 219 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: I love the team honestly. I just like the relationship 220 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: we have and the ability that we have to communicate 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: with one another, and we all care for one another. 222 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: That's really key. Okay, the final thing we do, Jared, 223 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: I caught the ozone five five quick questions with you 224 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: answer as quicker as lengthy as you want so they 225 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: can go fast. First question, what's your last binge watched? 226 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: My last binge watched? It may be Snowfall that's on 227 00:11:53,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: f X, that's on Hulu, Snowfall Atlanta, snow All Atlanta 228 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: with chot was a gamble um. Also I've been I 229 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: mean they through Dave Chappelle Dave Pappelle show Back on Netflix, 230 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: so that they did that. Yeah, it's hard to turn 231 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: away from that once you get gone, last song on 232 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: your iPhone, your car, last song you listened to before 233 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: it came in this morning on My Level by whis 234 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: Khalifa and too Short got you Me too, by the way, 235 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: same thing. So there's a question specifically for you, short 236 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: hair like you've got now or dreads, Which do you prefer? 237 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: Which do I prefer? Yeah, because you you went dreads 238 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: for a long time here right, Yeah, you know. With hair, 239 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's just phases. It's not like I intended 240 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: to kind of like playing out my hair or whatnot, 241 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: but it just kind of phases of me. Uh you know, 242 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: short hair now kind of got the program right now, 243 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: but last year at wave, at dressed before that for 244 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: about seven years. So it's neither nor like neither or 245 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: which one I prefer. But it's just like for me, 246 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: my hair is about phases of me, you know. I mean, 247 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit older now, so decide I wanted 248 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to go with the cut. Now I'm kind of rocking 249 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the aft for on them when I was in college. 250 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Before I got to college, I decided to throw grids 251 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: just phases for me. What sport would you have played 252 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: if it hadn't been football? I mean I played growing up, 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: I played basketball. I played a little bit of baseball 254 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: when I was younger, but I kind of was sold 255 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: on football for day one. I really look at another 256 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: athletic path I need. Football was kind of for me. 257 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I played basketball, though. Let me tell them, let me 258 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: tell that I'm I'm a ball player. You know. Now, 259 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: the final question, I know the answer to them. Give you. 260 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a chance that answer it Lebron 261 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: or m JA. This was a question all summer. But 262 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: I know your answer, right, Yeah, Michael Jordan's is Michael Jordan. 263 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: And it's no disrespecting. I mean, God says the goat, 264 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: perfectly fine with that. We can agree to disagree. But 265 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm rolling with Brown. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. That's not influenced 266 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: by being from Acre, now, is it. I mean there 267 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: may be some bias. It's some bias there for sure. 268 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's a it's definitely a hometown guy. You know, 269 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: he's from the carib So I can't go against him, 270 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: but just honestly, I think is his um over his 271 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: whole entire career, it's just been Marvit's he's been in 272 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: his prime since he was like eighteen. Yeah, I mean 273 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I think, uh, not like a big like stat guy 274 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: whatever as far as knowing his stats, but it's been 275 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: averaging like close to twenty seven points since like year 276 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: with two and he's in year seventeen eighteen now, so 277 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: you go with that. I mean, he's the all time 278 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: leader and he'll finish probably all time leader in playoffs 279 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: and points, rebounds, assists. It was rebound uh three pointers 280 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: made whatnot? So and he got four ships now and 281 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: you know everybody throws the rings out there, but like 282 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: rings are a team achievement. Michael Jordan didn't win to 283 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: stats free to Chicago Buller one. So Lebron got four 284 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: with three different teams. So it just goes on and on, 285 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: but is not done yet. Brown's mine. He's my number 286 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: one for sure. Jared. I appreciate you doing this. I 287 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: always appreciate it. On a busy week, you're taking the time. 288 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: Well forward to talking to you. So thanks for being 289 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: on the Other Zone podcast, and no problem I appreciate it. 290 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: God bless all right, buddy, thank you you too. Oh 291 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to thank Jared, as we always do for guys who 292 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: join us and record this on Wednesdays on really their 293 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: busiest day. So to take ten or fifteen minutes to 294 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: listen to my spield and my stick is is uh, 295 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: probably above and beyond the call of duty for him, 296 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: So I appreciate it. Jared's a guy who frankly he's 297 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: been around for five or six years, but as a reporter, 298 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: as a guy who's in the locker room, I've talked 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: to him a few times, but he hasn't been a 300 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: guy that I've gotten to know all that well. He's quiet, 301 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: he's a little reserved, and he frankly didn't play a 302 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: major role until last year. But Dave, you know, a 303 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: good guy, a lot to say on a lot of topics, 304 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and I a credit to him. I'm always fascinated by 305 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent story. Some guys make it, but 306 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: he really made it on a longer trek than a 307 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of U d f A s, meaning some U 308 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: d f A say James Robinson come in the automatically 309 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: make it another set in the league. He worked his 310 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: way up special teams guy, special teams guy, special teams, 311 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: got in safety, then starting safety, now team captain. That's 312 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: a long road. And as he said, I kind of 313 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: get why he thinks he's still making the team every year. Yeah, 314 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: it's probably good mentality to have in the NFL. Um. Yeah, no, 315 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: super good guy guy you root for when you're around 316 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: the team. Just uh, a real good guy. Uh. And yeah, 317 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean his his road was a long, like you said, 318 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things, is uh, it probably 319 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: creates a little bit of character, creates you know, whatever 320 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: you wanna call it, is that mentality of hey, I 321 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: gotta make it every year. I gotta make it. Even 322 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: when he's wearing the sea on his chest and he 323 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: still knows, you know, he's gotta work and and and 324 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: make make this team. And it is being around being 325 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: on the field on game days of being around it, 326 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: he's you know, you could tell he's a leader. Um 327 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: this year, I mean he talks in the huddles, when 328 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: the DVS get to the sideline, he's talking to him, 329 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: He's walking up and down the sideline. Um. You know, 330 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: it just got you root for and uh, and it's 331 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: just kind of funny to see where you know, in 332 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: our world, how how that grows because it's because it's 333 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: one of those those guys. Is you know, there's a 334 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: lot of kind of undrafted free agents, uh workie free agents, 335 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, practice squad or whatever, and you see him 336 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: around and you don't know him because there's not a 337 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: whole you know, there's not a whole lot of fan 338 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: interest there from what we we don't talk to him 339 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot. And it's kind of funny as so they 340 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: don't talk to him a lot. And as they grow 341 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: into the roles and now been around like Abrian Jones 342 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: is another guy that kind of reminds me a lot 343 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: of it's like and and then you realize, to those guys, 344 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: are you know, regular workman kind of mentality kind of guys. 345 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're usually pretty good people when they're 346 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: they're hanging around for that long and there's an appreciation 347 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: they have for the game. Often, you know, guys who 348 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: are drafted early don't really realize until the end of 349 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: their careers. This is sort of football one oh one 350 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: or media one oh one. They don't really realize they 351 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: can be taken away from them until it's almost taken 352 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: away from them, and then you know, you'll often see 353 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: me and Prisco used to always talk the guys at 354 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: the end of their careers would always be a little 355 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: nicer to the media than they were at the start 356 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: of their careers because they sensed it ending. And that's 357 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: sort of an aside, But yeah, Jared has always been 358 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: a good guy. And for fans who don't watch the 359 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: safety position, I don't know that Jared's ever gonna be 360 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl guy. I don't know that he's gonna 361 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: be at that level because I don't know if the 362 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna be good enough in the next couple 363 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: of years. Who knows. But you know, profile is often 364 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: a thing that gets guys that sort of recognition. And 365 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: he's not flashy. He's had a huge interception guy. But 366 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: what he is is a is a really really good 367 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: solid safety, a pro who can make the calls back there. 368 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: If he weren't on the Jaguars, he'd be playing for 369 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: a lot of for a lot of teams, is my 370 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: point right now. And the defense there's not you, there's 371 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: some guys playing who you wonder because it's it's a 372 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: really underman defense. He's a good player. He's a solid professional, 373 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: solid veteran. And when you talk to Todd Wash about him, 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: even as coordinator, he always has guys lined up right. 375 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: He's never gonna make a mistake. He's always going to 376 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: be in the right spot you can always rely on. 377 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: You talked to his teammates about his leadership. Fifth year guy, 378 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: first year as a starter. Last year, he was already 379 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: doing that. So a very intelligent player. And again, this 380 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: has been a struggling defense this year, is no secret 381 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: about that. But it struggled a lot more when he 382 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: wasn't in the game because the communication, the ability to 383 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: get guys lined up in the right spot. They depend 384 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: on him. They are a better defense when he's in 385 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: the game than when he's not. This year, I think 386 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: there's two players that really kind of stick out for 387 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: me with him. I remember when we played London against 388 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: against the Texans last year and there was a long 389 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: passing or catching run or maybe it was a long run, 390 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: and Jared ran down the guy and knocked the ball 391 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: out off the two yard line. It was a touch 392 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: back and the game was over. But but I mean 393 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: he was, you know, still putting in that effort, still 394 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: going all out and then the interception he had against 395 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: Houston there at houston right place was at the right 396 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: place when Sidney Jones took that ball, He's in the 397 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: right place to get an interception, and then ran all 398 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: over the field to get as many yards as he 399 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: could on the return um to set the offense up. 400 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: I think those are just kind of two players. I 401 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: kind of let you know what kind of player and 402 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: what kind of guy Jared is. Yeah, and I will 403 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: close with this, Dave, and fans can't see it, but 404 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: Dave can see that behind me on November eleven, there's 405 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: a Christmas tree. So Jared's getting married. He doesn't realize 406 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: that after a couple of years of marriage. This is 407 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: what you're looking at, Dave. November eleventh, with the guys 408 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: are completely skipping Thanksgiving. I mean, I'm not gonna tell you, 409 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: but you know, the wife wanted to have this out 410 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: on Labor Day. I had to fight her on that. 411 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: So it's it's quite a scene at Christmas at the 412 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: Ozone household, Dave. Growing up in my neighborhood, we had 413 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: an old related that lived on her street and she 414 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: left her Christmas tree up all year and from whatever, 415 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: from January through November. Should just throw a sheet over it. 416 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: You guys could do the same thing the christ strip. 417 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: That would be easier for me, that would be, but 418 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: it would be I'm the one who would just take 419 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: it in and out. So that's what's waiting for Jared 420 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: in about a year. So that's uh, that's where it's coming. 421 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, on that pathetic note of my life, we'll 422 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: end today's A Zone podcast. I want to thank Davy. 423 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Candis has always thank you, too fortunate for making me 424 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: sound better than I really am. This one didn't suck, Dave. 425 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: So far. I think we're about eleven and twelve and 426 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sucking. We'll see you next week. We'll see 427 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: everybody next week on the Ozone Podcast.