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Speaker 2: This tournament is unique. They're only eighty nine guys playing

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Speaker 2: It's just this is just an incredible viewing experience. Even

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Speaker 2: know who that is? And they can say, yes, that's

427
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods his days. I know he said today, if

428
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: it all breaks right, I can compete to win. I'm

429
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: not sure I'm buying that, but I don't even care.

430
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 2: If he just can play four rounds, which, let's face it,

431
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: based on the last couple of years, would be an accomplishment,

432
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: would be an upset given that he's withdrawing and not

433
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: finishing any of these tournaments. I'm in I really am.

434
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: I think it would be cool if somehow on the weekend,

435
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: like if they're like thirtieth, Tiger and Phil are playing together,

436
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: that would be cool to see the kind of their

437
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: vibes toward each other. Obviously, one team PGA Tour, the

438
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: other team live. It feels like the stars would really

439
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: have to align. But hell, we just got a solar eclipse,

440
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: so maybe it's the time. I can't wait, man, I

441
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: really can't honored on Master week to have a six

442
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 2: time PGA Tour winner and a guy that played at

443
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Augusta professionally, well, I think the first time maybe as

444
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: an amateur, but ten times finished in the top ten.

445
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: Three of them had a couple other top fifteen finishes.

446
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,719
Speaker 2: Hunter Mayhan now currently his office is right down the

447
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 2: hall from Jason Witton. They're just taking Liberty Christian the

448
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: whole new levels as a golf coach and a football coach.

449
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, man.

450
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Not much. Man, Thanks for having me.

451
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Do you ever get to do some free squats with Jason?

452
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm working work on this technique. It's a little flat.

453
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Sin see, he stopped playing, but he's still a strong

454
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: dude and he's a coach at heart. Man. It's it's

455
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of funny. I've talked to him a couple of times,

456
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: and he's just a coach and he loves it and

457
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: he's passionate about it. And he turned this program around

458
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So it's inspiring to see. And he's a

459
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: great guy to kind of talk to and he's open

460
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: to that to figure out how to make these kids

461
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: just a little bit better.

462
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: Talk to me about this week, Like in O three

463
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: you were an amate Did you qualify because you finished

464
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: in the top two of the USAM. Is that how

465
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: you got in correct?

466
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Running up in the USM that here.

467
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, as a as a kid, obviously

468
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: you were a highly touted amateur player, played at a

469
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: high level in college. But to get to go to

470
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Augusta and three before you became professionally became normal. Yeah,

471
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: what was that like driving town down Magnolia Lane. You

472
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: go with your parents, you go with it, you.

473
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Speaker 1: Go with Yeah. So I remember winning my semifinal match

474
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Speaker 1: and that got me into Augusta, Like I knew that,

475
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Speaker 1: And that was the first thing I thought of when

476
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: I won. It wasn't even you know, because I actually

477
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: won the US Junior and I had a chance to

478
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: do something only a Tiger has done, which is when

479
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: the US Junior and the US sandwichury. So I was

480
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: on the prespice of that. But soon as I got

481
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: as soon as I won my match, I knew, like,

482
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: oh I'm in Augusta. Like it was wild. It was

483
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: a wild just moment, and then we went and played.

484
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: As soon as you get that invitor, as soon as

485
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: you know you're in the tournament, you're allowed to play

486
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: kind of as much as you want. You just have

487
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: to play with a member. So you can go call

488
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: the club and say, hey, I like to go and

489
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: they'll they'll help you out and they set you up.

490
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: And so yeah, driving down for the first time with

491
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: no fans, no one there, just like I don't even

492
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: know what day it was, might have been a Monday

493
00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: or something like that, and it's just eerily quiet. It's

494
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: just you see, you're feeling everything that you've seen on

495
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: TV and now you're experiencing it and suddenly had the

496
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: old range. It was wild. It was just such a

497
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it was truly like a dream come true

498
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: because everything that was fake is now real and you're

499
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: and you're seeing it and experiencing it. And then you

500
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: get to see the golf course and in three D right,

501
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: you're not seeing it from a one D just from

502
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: a flat perspective. You actually get to see the slopes

503
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: and feel the slopes and see how the course is

504
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: actually and how you're going to have to play it.

505
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: It was really and as an amateur there, I think

506
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: that's so special. It is so unique, and that is

507
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: a real honor because you really you didn't qualify. You

508
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: really had to like I don't see you're not qualifying

509
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: for but you're really earning your opportunity to play that

510
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: and there's only like eighty nine guys this year, and

511
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: sometimes they've had like low eighties, and so it's really

512
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: really hard to get into this event. And so it

513
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: was awesome and I felt very proud to be there

514
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: as an amateur and play there as long as I.

515
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Did that round that you played the practice round with

516
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: a member. Did you approach that just like a normal

517
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: round of golf or was like a practice Do you

518
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: remember what you shot? No?

519
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I mean I just was like, I mean,

520
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: I was just getting a feel for everything, and so

521
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: like the whole course is just slipped, like every shot

522
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have, every kind of lie you're gonna have uphill, downhill,

523
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: side hill. I mean, you're just taking it all in

524
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: that first time and you've got to figure out You're

525
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: just figuring out angles. The course is so angular and

526
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: how you need to attack certain pins and everything. So

527
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was hitting it was kind of like

528
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: can I hit another ball here? And they're super nice,

529
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: the staff, everybody, And I was getting tips from the

530
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: caddies who were there because they've seen that place for

531
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: a really long time, and that was fun. The caddies

532
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: of amazing stories and you can get a lot of

533
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: information from them, So I just was taking it all

534
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: in that kind of that first round and experiencing and

535
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: everything that I could that could maybe help me in

536
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: the tournament, even though the course changes drastically even from

537
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Monday of the week to the day, just to feel

538
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: it and to understand what's actually going to happen when

539
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: you start on Thursday.

540
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Why is the course so hard?

541
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: It requires your attention on every single shot, right, Like

542
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: the dreams are real slow and you have to really

543
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: put yourself in position. If you get out of position,

544
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: it's really really challenging just to get up and down.

545
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: And big numbers can happen really fast there, and that's

546
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: one of the things that you have to do. There

547
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: is just not three button not bake big numbers. If

548
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: you do that, you're going to have your opportunities for

549
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: birdies and even eagles. But you just have to be

550
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: You just can't take a whole off. You have to

551
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: be engaged on every single shot and you can't get

552
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: frustrated with the golf course because the wind swirls it.

553
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: You do want you do want experience when you're sort

554
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: of playing this golf course.

555
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Did you get nervous as you became a pro, I mean, oh, nine, T, ten, ten, tha, twelve,

556
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: T twelve. Are you nervous in the mix or does

557
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: it just become like a normal tournament as professional after

558
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: a while.

559
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: I think you're nervous the first time, but I think

560
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: the more you play it, the more comfortable you get.

561
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't change a lot. The weather obviously is a

562
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: little you know, we've seen like Zach Johnson play there

563
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: and it was freezing cold, right and it changed the

564
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: course drastically. But it is such a it's such a

565
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: comforting feeling for a pro to play there because they

566
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: only allow one person per player on the range. Like

567
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: if you want your swing instructor, then he can come up.

568
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: If you want your psychology, well then they have to

569
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: switch out. If you want your physio, they have to

570
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: switch out. So it's a very calm. It's it's strange,

571
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: but it's a very calm place.

572
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: And that is that not normal at a even a

573
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: US Open or a British You can play you want, and.

574
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: The use like it's your family, your cousins, your friends,

575
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: your teachers, their teachers, swing putting chipping guy, they're all

576
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: in the range. There's a thousand people in the range,

577
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: and there's a thousand manufacturers in media, and it's like

578
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: the great thing about Guessa so like defined and everyone's

579
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: so respectful of everything. But it's just such a It

580
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: really does feel like it's all about the players and

581
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: the player experience, and so everything you're doing that week

582
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: is sort of wrapped around that. And it's just like

583
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I said, it's eerily calm, and it just feels like

584
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: it's all about the golf and you're just that's what

585
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: you're there for. And I don't know, I just always

586
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: it just was such a relaxing place, even though you

587
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: know you're at the Masters. It felt therapeutic in a

588
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: way because it just felt like you didn't have to

589
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of stuff other than just playing

590
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: and handling yourself.

591
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: Did you get nervous more there than you did in

592
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: other places, or at least all like off the first

593
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: tea on Thursday.

594
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. I just so happy.

595
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed the experience. It was so cool to

596
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: be at Augusta and playing the Masters, these signature holes,

597
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: those signature moments. I don't know, I just felt like

598
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed it. So much. You know, everything the

599
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: part three contests, the specters, the people. You didn't have

600
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: to worry about anything. There was not going to be

601
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: any nonsense out there. There's not going to be any

602
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: fans yelling or It's like everything was just controlled and

603
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: it just it felt easy in a way that all

604
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: you have to do is just try to play your

605
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: best and play really good golf.

606
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: Is it harder because I was looking at some of

607
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: the scores. Besides, if you take the fall Masters out,

608
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of hovered between ten to thirteen hunder, which

609
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: in this modern golf I don't want to say it's

610
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: US Open, but it's not. These guys aren't shooting twenty

611
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: four under par.

612
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Well.

613
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: What makes it so difficult, like, is just the slopes?

614
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: Is it your approach shots, which clearly is a big

615
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: deal at Augusta. Is there a flat lie out there?

616
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: There's not many. There's not many flat lies. I think

617
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: what they do well there is they adjust year to year, right,

618
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: and they have a lot of control over that. Golfers like,

619
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: they have all the control that golf pers you'd ever want,

620
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: so they're able to adjust it at some length here

621
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: move this back, you know, they have a great sense

622
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: and great feel of it because they host the same

623
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: course the same place over and over and over again.

624
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: So that helps a ton if you're going to a

625
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: different golf course like the USGA does PGA, there's no

626
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: rhythm and there's no field to what's happening and how

627
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: the weather's going to play into the golf course. So

628
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: they can hit the gas on the greens when they want,

629
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: which is obviously really challenging, right, Like you don't see

630
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: great putters seem to win at Agussa, even though putting

631
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: is so important. You just have to not three putts.

632
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: You just have to not be a disaster on the greens.

633
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: The course is all about ball striking, and now it's

634
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: becoming much more of a bomber's golf course where you

635
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: really got to hit an eye and far to carry.

636
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of carries there over these little mounds

637
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: on a lot of these par fours where if you

638
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: do carry it and then it's going to bounce on

639
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: a flat surface other than bouncing into a hill which

640
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: then equates to twenty five thirty yards and so, and

641
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: like I said, they can still hit the gas on

642
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: these greens into where if you can where you hit

643
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Speaker 1: your second shots. It's I mean, we're talking about two

644
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: to three yard gaps like this is I've got to

645
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: land it in this area or it's going to hit

646
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: a hill roll down and I want to be struggling

647
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: for part. But if I hit it on top of

648
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: there and it rolls over, I've got a great look

649
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: for Berdie. So it's just the difference between where you

650
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: hit your approach shots on a lot of these holes.

651
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: Is a difference between a five foot putt and a

652
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Speaker 1: thirty thirty foot are open over a four foot mount.

653
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Speaker 2: Would the average like five to ten handicap have any

654
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: freaking shot on those greens because they always say they're

655
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Speaker 2: like the hardest greens in America.

656
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Speaker 1: No, they would have no. Like I mean, I'm coaching

657
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: high school here in the kids three poot all the time,

658
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: Like that's like five ten handicappers are going to three

659
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: poot a lot.

660
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Speaker 2: And is it because they're like concrete, they're just super

661
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: fast or they're undulated. Is the combination of it all?

662
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: A combination of it all. They're super fast, which is

663
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: one thing. But the greens, like the course sits like

664
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Speaker 1: on a hill, like from the first T eight you know,

665
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Speaker 1: first T eighteen green, it just goes like this down

666
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Speaker 1: to twelve. Like it's steep, steep, steep, And that's how

667
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: the whole golf course. It's oddly in a bowl and

668
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: everything goes down to twelve. And so even when you

669
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Speaker 1: think you have a flat putt, it's still going to

670
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: break a lot, right, And so amateurs just aren't used

671
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: to playing three four five feet a break and having

672
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: the ball and just thinking that I've got a twelve

673
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: foot and I just need to to putting. I just

674
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: need to get it around there and give it a chance,

675
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: but not be super aggressive. There's not many aggressive putts

676
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: you have. There's not really many flat greens. Twelve ironic,

677
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: it's about the flattest green you're going to have there.

678
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: But it's you know, you can get at it at

679
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: certain times and certain they give you that opportunity. I

680
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: guess that which is so great. There's a stretch in

681
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: that back nine on Sunday right where you can get

682
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: to that golf course and you have to make Hey

683
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: when you when you have that opportunity, did.

684
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: You ever have a chance on these on your top

685
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: tens to like legitimately win on the weekend.

686
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I I mean I think I had

687
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: teeing off on Sunday. I had a chance to win.

688
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: I needed to play really well, and I just didn't

689
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: get it done. But I felt like I was there,

690
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: and you have those opportunities in the background Sunday and

691
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: you got to take advantage of those. I mean, the

692
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: best I remember playing with Freddy one year, and that

693
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: was my favorite time with Freddy. Sunday at the Masters

694
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: was just so cool. And so he's the best guy

695
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: to play with in a stressful environment because he is

696
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: he's sort of just like this, you know in your read, calm,

697
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: confident coach on the sideline, just doing his thing, and

698
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: and Freddie has just this way about him that nothing

699
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: seems too big.

700
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Speaker 2: You know, you played in the era before we dive

701
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: into some of the favorites and just what we're thinking

702
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: this weekend in peak Tiger, I mean when you first

703
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: got on only two thousands, and obviously once Phil got

704
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: over the hump and became an all time great. Starting

705
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: with Tiger, I mean, you see him the day, he's smiley.

706
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: He's definitely a different person in his late forties. Oh yeah,

707
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Speaker 2: I remember texting with you years ago when it was

708
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: like covid shutdown just watching all these youtubes. I mean,

709
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: how much better was he than everyone else? Like do

710
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: you what's your when you when I when you close

711
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: your eyes and think like your Tiger story being around

712
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: and playing with him in his heyday, what stands out

713
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: to you about Tiger Woods.

714
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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that he was the best at

715
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: everything Like there was like he was winning tournaments playing okay,

716
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: and that's guy's whole dream and their life was to

717
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: win a PGA tournament. And it wasn't like he was

718
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: toying with anybody. He just was like he was just

719
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: on a different planet of work, ethic and desire and

720
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: what he was willing to do to win. But like

721
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: his like he was the best driver of the golf ball,

722
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: he was the best putter, and the short game was ridiculous.

723
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: And what you have to do is hit your long

724
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: iron as well. And we'd never seen anybody be able

725
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: to hit three iron as far and as high as

726
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: he could. And so when you go to Augusta and

727
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: you go to these major type places and he's just

728
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: playing a different type of golf when he's hitting these

729
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: five and long irons straight up in the air and

730
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: just landing it perfectly soft on the green with incredible

731
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: distance control. But when you take that and you take

732
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Speaker 1: that to really tough golf courses, the advantage is just

733
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Speaker 1: you know, what we've learned is that ball striking, iron

734
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: play is what's going to separate you from being a

735
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: really very great player. And it takes you from course

736
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: to course, country to country, it doesn't really matter. And

737
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: the way he was able to do those things and

738
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Speaker 1: hit those irons, and the way the sound it made,

739
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: the lack of it just looked and felt, and the

740
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: way he can shape it just slightly. It was unlike

741
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: anything we've ever seen before. Guys would struggle to just

742
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: get up and to win events, and it was just

743
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: like he was. He was such an a rhythm of

744
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: just toying with everybody else a lot of the time.

745
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: You know, the thing I've always said about him, and listen,

746
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: obviously he's had a crazy life, I mean an insane life,

747
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: but he said it today, like I just love golf. Yes,

748
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: to be as rich as he is, to be as

749
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: injured as he is, it's like to still want some grind.

750
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: It's I just think ninety nine percent of people in

751
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: his shoes. With his resume, his money is now family.

752
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think would continue to do it. And

753
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: I just admire his drive, which, like you said, was

754
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: on the forefront for twenty years for guys like you

755
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: just watching it was it was unprecedented. I don't know

756
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: if we'll ever quite see anything like it again.

757
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: No, it's a it's a like you said, it's a

758
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: pure joy to the simplest things. I think he loves.

759
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: He loves just the feeling, you know, of a pure strike,

760
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: the high draw, the manipulation that hit it left and right,

761
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: the feeling like of hitting a perfect wed from like

762
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: sixty yard and watching it spin, and the control that

763
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: he has. He loves the simplicity of the things. It's

764
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: sort of like, Brady, you can't like Thursdays and Saturdays

765
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: and Sundays. You got to like hitting balls at home

766
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: at like seven am and just feeling the way the

767
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: ball rolls off the putter. Like, he loves all those things.

768
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: It's his passion, it's his drive, it's his work ethic.

769
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: He just loves all those things. And I don't think

770
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: people even understand what he has to do now just

771
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: to play around the golf. I mean it's hours of

772
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: warm up and work and then it's post work and

773
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: he's willing to do it, which is crazy. He's almost

774
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: fifty and he's been doing and I mean the last

775
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: what he wanted in twenty nineteen, So like the last

776
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: five years of his it's been such a struggle for

777
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: him just to get on a golf course and play

778
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: four rounds. And it doesn't phase him. He's just like, well,

779
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: this is what I have to do. I have to

780
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: add this hour of stretching and inkle mobility work. That's

781
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. Do I have to wake

782
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: him at four, okay, three, whatever, it doesn't matter because

783
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: I want to be on that first d competing because

784
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: that's what he like.

785
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: I know, you're tight and for a long time with

786
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: the Nicholson who you know, I following his scores that

787
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: lived these last couple of years hasn't been the prettiest thing.

788
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: But last year at the Masters, I mean, shit, the

789
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: guy made a running second. So why we know Tiger's

790
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: success here, but Phil's not far behind him as a

791
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: guy who's very comfortable. Is it just his touch? Obviously

792
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 2: he's one of the most talented players of all time.

793
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Is just just one of those courses. When you have

794
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: the course knowledge like those two guys, it's such a

795
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: big advantage.

796
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for sure, for sure. And Phil loves he's

797
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: like a very visual person and he's an artist, right Tiger.

798
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Tiger is way more of a technician. Right. Once he

799
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: got a lead of a major tournament, he just weighs

800
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: you down. There's gonna be no mistakes, there's gonna be

801
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: irons and three with Phil's like, you know, do you

802
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: think I could skip this across the water and then

803
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: get up on the green and then a roll right?

804
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Like I think I can do that, right, And like

805
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: Bones is historically like, no, we don't need to skip

806
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: the ball of the water and we can just lay up.

807
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: Because you're much player, right, Bill's always seeing the challenge

808
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: and the fun in the game, and Augusta provides that.

809
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: It's a you know, you're going to hit so many

810
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: shots that week. And Phil loves that. He loves the

811
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: artistry of what he can do and what he needs

812
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: to do, and that course gives you everything. I mean,

813
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: you went at high, low, fade, draw whatever, and so

814
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: he loves that there and it's great. Like I said,

815
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: he's vombinant now, and that's a course that lends you

816
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: to give you that opportunity a lot and kill those

817
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: part fives. And he knows he knows those screens better

818
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: than anybody in history. So when he's there, he's he's

819
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: thinking to himself, I'm ahead of these guys because I

820
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: know what everything's going to do. I've played here in

821
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: every condition. And he's always believing that if I can

822
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: just get a rhythm with my swing, because he always

823
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: feels rhythmic like he can't. It's not really a technician.

824
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: But if it gets in that rhythm, watch out, because

825
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: he's going to go at every flag because he feels

826
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: that confident and he's going to be really, really comfortable

827
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Speaker 1: around the periods.

828
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's go through some of the top guys

829
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: this week. I mean Rory, he needs this to complete

830
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: the career Grand Slam. Last year obviously was devastating. He

831
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: missed the cut, he had not been playing well, and

832
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: then he goes and sees Butch and last week, I

833
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw some of his stats, his

834
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: proximity the whole from like one twenty five to two

835
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: hundred was dramatically better with every club. So now I'm thinking,

836
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna throw a little cash on Rory.

837
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: It feels like he's bound to win it. The confidence

838
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: you've been around Butch, just the mental positivity he can

839
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: throw into your head. It feels like Rory's a big

840
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: psychological if he's in the right space, watch out. What

841
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Rory McElroy And do you think

842
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: it's inevitable because for some guys this isn't inevitable.

843
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's inevitable. I think what I

844
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: think what Butch will do is give him a little

845
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: bit of structure, right, and he'll say, Okay, this is

846
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: these are the few things that you're gonna need. Butch

847
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: has a few ideals that he really likes and he

848
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: believes in the golf. So I think he's going to

849
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: help him with those things and give him a like

850
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: give him just like play in this area right and

851
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: just like structure, structure, structure to swing, and that should

852
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: give him some confidence. I do like him this week

853
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: because he did play last week, So I think Rory

854
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: kind of is going to feed off of that a lot.

855
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna be talked about much.

856
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of shuffler. It's

857
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of like female you know Xander,

858
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: people like I love Xander. This week, there's gonna be

859
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: a lot of things willie Z. There's gonna be a

860
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of players, a lot of people talking. And I

861
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: think Rory, especially after like the live stuff and him,

862
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, having a press conference every single week, I

863
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: think he can slide underneath that radar a little bit

864
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and just kind of play and not have to worry

865
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 1: about much. And so I think that's going to benefit

866
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: him a lot. I do expect him. I think he's

867
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: going to play actually really really good this week and

868
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: it might come down to just you know, putting for him.

869
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: You know, I think I like you. I think he's

870
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: gonna hit it great and he's gonna play really really well,

871
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: really really well. Is he going to find that touch

872
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: around the greens of the putter, you know, off the

873
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: wait and see?

874
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say that the draw players have

875
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: an advantage at this course?

876
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Well, like rom won last year and so he's a big.

877
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Cutter DJ's won before.

878
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't because I think these guys can hit

879
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: so high now they can take a lot of stuff

880
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: out of play. You can hit a three wood, it's

881
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: going to be much easier to draw. So I don't

882
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: think so like a guy like Victor. To me, Hombland

883
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: is a guy I really liked this week his iron play.

884
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he can just beat like I think he

885
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: will if he gets in a good rhythm on Thursday.

886
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I think he's just going to slowly climb up the

887
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: leaderboard and I think he'll end up being there on

888
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Sunday and have a really good chance to win. I

889
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: think he's this golf course is all of all your

890
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: irons and control, and he can do that as good

891
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: as anybody.

892
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, we talk a lot about like

893
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler's now getting the Tiger treatment with odds. Let's

894
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: face it, in like two thousand and two, people weren't

895
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 2: talking about like gambling on golf like they do now,

896
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: but we all just assumed Tiger was gonna win. It

897
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: is pretty crazy that he's like two, three, four to one.

898
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Hunter, he's four to one this week,

899
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: and it doesn't even seem that crazy. He's like, yeah,

900
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: he Putswoy's probably gonna win by four. You're a Dallas guy.

901
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: He's a Dallas guy. Uh, you're if you know him

902
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: at all, what your thoughts on? Just watched him play

903
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: as a pro. It seems kind of crazy because the

904
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: guy is freaking incredible.

905
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: He's you know, we talked about him a couple of

906
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: years ago when we were like, is he gonna hang around? Right?

907
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: Like is this sort of But it's reality is he's

908
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: the best iron player in the world. And even though

909
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: he had you know, struggles with this putter, he was

910
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: finishing top five and he was still the best player

911
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: in the world during those weeks. So he's got the

912
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: confidence in the putter now and he's very just. He

913
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: does a great job I think of resetting himself like

914
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: week after a week, right, and he's always sort of

915
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: tinker trying to make a swing better. He doesn't seem

916
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: to get caught up in in the tiger hysteria and

917
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: trying to be anything other than Scotti Scheffler. And there's

918
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: a simplicity to that that really works in his favor.

919
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: It would be you know, four to one is high.

920
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: It's hard to put money on him to think that

921
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: he's going to win because he's been such a here.

922
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: Can you really just continue that over and over again?

923
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. You think he's just going to

924
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: miss a few putts, have one bad day of irons.

925
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: But man, he is. He is so good And he

926
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: said he's just good, good at everything. There's just not

927
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: really a weakness to his game. He has great touch,

928
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: great feeler's got a great caddy. He's already won here before, right,

929
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't I wouldn't put it past him to win.

930
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: But boy, I mean, are we really entering that category

931
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: where he's going to be just top ten every single

932
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: major for the next ten years. I mean, I don't

933
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: know about that.

934
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: If he were to win this one, it'd be safe

935
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: to say he might win two or three majors this year,

936
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: because oh sure he'd be out the gates. But we

937
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: thought that about John Rahm last year once he won

938
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: this tournament. And he's a guy. I don't know, if

939
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: you saw the quote, he's like, yeah, I wish you know,

940
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: live maybe we should go to seventy two holes because

941
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: I would imagine, you know, he's an old school grinder competitor. Yeah,

942
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: probably doesn't feel as sharp coming into this. He he's

943
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: he feels kind of like the anti Kopka who took

944
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: everything seriously. Keopka only took these four tournaments seriously. And

945
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of awfume just because I want that

946
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: comment to me told me a lot of like, I

947
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: wonder if he feels as great as he did last

948
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: year when he was winning tournaments, playing in normal four

949
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: round events, and he doesn't feel quite as sharp coming

950
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: to this bad boy.

951
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: It's a great point. I saw that quote too, and

952
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: I was like, and I mean, I mean I talked

953
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: to the guys that live about broadcasting and fifteen mour

954
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: holes is not like that is their plan, Like that

955
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: is not something movable. They don't feel like that is anything,

956
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Like that's not an option.

957
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: So a guy's weekend trip.

958
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's really weird for me that he actually

959
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: was like made that public and said that a little

960
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: surprising to say the least. I don't disagree, like he's

961
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: these guys want they want that rhythm. There's a cadence

962
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: to playing professional golf four rounds, a cut and all

963
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: those things. So maybe he does feel a little bit

964
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: like honeymoon's over and now we're grinding, and now we're

965
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: playing week after a weekend. He's like, kt Lee, it's

966
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: just three days. I got to get ready for a

967
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: major four days. I wonder if he's thinking about that

968
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: and it's running through us. Had a little bit more

969
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: than he might have thought that it would have impacted

970
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: him getting to win a major, because now now it's

971
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: entering his time in his season, and there's a lot

972
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: of golf that he's going to be playing at a

973
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: high level, and maybe he doesn't feel like he's getting

974
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: that competitive spirit out there. I'm not sure. Only he

975
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: can answer that.

976
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: How can keepka and not really give a shit about

977
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: tournaments and then just flip the switch and win majors

978
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: and compete in majors? Is that the craziest thing you've

979
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: ever seen?

980
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think we've never seen a career like this.

981
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how to like, you know, I was

982
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: looking at like major winners of his calibere, meaning like

983
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: the guys who have won five plus they've all won,

984
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: you know, a ratio of about five to one, meeting

985
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: five tournaments, five normal tournaments to like one major. Like

986
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: it's a big gap, right, Phil's got like six majors

987
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: and like forty plus wins, right, he's like eight to

988
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: one tigres guy, like fIF you know, there's at least

989
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: a five to like a ten to one gap. He's

990
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: like like like two to one. Like it's just weird.

991
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you have many tournaments majors when

992
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: you have like nine or ten tournaments one? It's just weird.

993
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: It's it's very unique and very strange. There's really no

994
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand it either, because he's so good that

995
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: you would think at least one twenty times more of

996
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: like a Dustin Johnson type career, more of a rory,

997
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: but he actually just hasn't played that. He spent a

998
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: lot of time on the European Tour kind of grinding

999
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: out there and figuring out kind of who he was.

1000
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: But he does not seem to be deterred by anything.

1001
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: His majors last year were incredible. It was such a

1002
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: stud and the masters in the PGA. So it doesn't

1003
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: make any sense to me that he can just flip

1004
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: a switch from like Darrel playing terrible in them, you know,

1005
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: for two days, and then come here and be sharp.

1006
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't that doesn't make sense to me it did

1007
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: feel like last year he was playing well, he was

1008
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: winning live events. His confidence was like, he's like, I'm

1009
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: feeling like Brooks again. Health is great. So I do

1010
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: I think he's going to flip the switch. I wouldn't.

1011
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so because last year he did. Like

1012
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: last year it was like, oh he's back, and this

1013
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: year we haven't heard from him in like months, right,

1014
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: So not really sure. He's not someone that I'm thinking

1015
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: about today to win the Masters. You know.

1016
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, as from a gambling standpoint, it's hard not to

1017
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: sprinkle a little on him because you always just get

1018
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: you'll be pissed at yourself Saturday you look up. But

1019
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: also a couple of years ago he missed the cut,

1020
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: he's battling injuries. Two guys, Yeah, I know. My two

1021
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: favorites this week not necessarily to win, but then I

1022
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: just think auto top ten bets and auto guys to

1023
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: be in the mix are Heydekie and Xander. I mean

1024
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: they are playing fantastic, They're comfortable here. Xander's you know,

1025
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Hedeki's won a major before. Xander feels like he has

1026
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: a million top fives in majors and a little like

1027
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: Rory I don't necessarily know the masters. Inevitably, he's going

1028
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: to win a big tournament if if you're in the

1029
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: mix this often, right, What are your thoughts on Xander?

1030
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: You ever overlap with him?

1031
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: He's a little younger, but yeah, we played Charlotte a

1032
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: few years ago. I love him. I think his game

1033
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: is I I mean, he hits these just high, beautiful

1034
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: draws and his swing. Like what I like about players

1035
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: is when their swings sort of matched the ballflight. And

1036
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: whenever I watch Xander play, it's just like it's poetry

1037
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: because it's just so it's exactly it should do exactly

1038
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: what his swing says, and he does it so consistently,

1039
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: and I mean it's so high, and when you play majors,

1040
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: to hit it high and have control where you really

1041
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: control where that ball's landing and where it's going to hit.

1042
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, ball striking really really matters.

1043
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: He's finished top five in these majors and runner ups

1044
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: because of his ball striking and he just doesn't put

1045
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: himself in danger. And so I like you, I love him.

1046
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: This week. I don't see him not playing well because

1047
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: it just to me and it's an assumption but I

1048
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: believe it's truely true. And he walks on that golf

1049
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: course and it is really comfortable, like he can just

1050
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: see all his shots and how he wants the ball

1051
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: to come down. He's plenty long enough. To me, it's

1052
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: just he's going to get out there. It's just going

1053
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: to be those critical moments. That's all it comes down.

1054
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: It's winning a major. In these things, it's just a

1055
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: putter or two here. He's been there, he's lived it.

1056
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be as motivated as jacked

1057
00:53:48,080 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: as anybody to have this sort of opportunity.

1058
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: You got any good hood Decky stories. I'm fascinated by

1059
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: that guy. The one arm finishes and balls three twenty.

1060
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: He won at riv He's like, yeah, I didn't even

1061
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: think I played that well. He's goll like sixty two.

1062
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: You know, You're just like, this guy's a trip man.

1063
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: He's just just a big time talent.

1064
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. He lives Orlando, and I've been there a few

1065
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: times on the range with him working like Sean Fully

1066
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: and stuff, and he just he's got his crew with

1067
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: him from Japan and he just he goes out to

1068
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: the range and just bangs balls and bangs balls and

1069
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: bangs balls and hit some more balls and just he's

1070
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: just a machine, right It's that Japanese culture of just

1071
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: grinding over and over and over again. I don't, you know,

1072
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't know much about him. Nobody really does. It's

1073
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: just you know, a cultural thing. But he's a machine

1074
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: out there. And you know, it's a fascinating lifestyle that

1075
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: he has because he's such a superstar over there, and

1076
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a reprieve for him to come over

1077
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: here and live in this, you know, live in Orlando,

1078
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: this a little tiny off course and just play. I

1079
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: think it's very relaxing for him. So he is a

1080
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, it always feels like he's on the verge

1081
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: of superstardom, right Like I'm thinking, like this could be

1082
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: the year where he develops into a top five player

1083
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: for the next five years. But then he sort of

1084
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: kind of goes away, and so there's an inconsistency there

1085
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: with him that's actually sort of exciting because he can

1086
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: jump up and win any major in any arm. He

1087
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: has that skill set is putting is a little is

1088
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: putting always feels like I hold him back because it's

1089
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: just it's just not fluid it's not pretty. It's very

1090
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: looks analytical and technique, and it's like that's just not

1091
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: how you're going to be consistent over a long run.

1092
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: But man, his physical tools are absurd and hit him.

1093
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: Stepping on the golf course to win is no joke

1094
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: you mentioned Fen.

1095
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Now, one thing, when I play out of TPC, sometimes

1096
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: i will be on the range about to go play,

1097
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: and I'll see a guy Max or Tony or one

1098
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: of those guys at the back of the range and

1099
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: I always kind of keep track when you turn around

1100
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: eight to nine and you can see them up they're putting. Yeah, Tony,

1101
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: on Saturday I play, I teed off at like eight thirty.

1102
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: When I teed off he was back there putting. When

1103
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: I came up on eight, he was still back there putting,

1104
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: And when I finished, he was just going to play. Now, obviously,

1105
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: as pro golfers, you guys work really hard. But he's

1106
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: a guy that's had success here and the putting has

1107
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 2: just been an absolute disaster. Yeah, from a ball striking standpoint,

1108
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, how many guys can hang with that dude?

1109
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this morning. He's like, you know, seventh

1110
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: overall and ball striking strokes gained solid, not even where

1111
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: he could really be at his best. Best putting is

1112
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: like one sixty something, right, And that's it's a draining

1113
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: aspect of your game, right when you're hitting it so

1114
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: good and something's laying you down consistently, and it's something

1115
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: that's not it. It's not in your face putting right,

1116
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: it's not obvious, it's it's just it's artistic. Right. All

1117
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: the great putters, a lot of great putters are terrible

1118
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: ball strikers. You know, put it bluntly, you know, because

1119
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: it's different. It's like a different part of your brain,

1120
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: so you have to see it different. And so it's

1121
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: hard for guys who are very technique driven in the

1122
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: in the ball striking, which you need to be because

1123
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to get lucky and be slowing ball striking,

1124
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: to then take that and not use the technique for

1125
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: putting because it doesn't work that way. You have to

1126
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: be way more autistic, and especially at a gusta where

1127
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: you really have to see this ball coming in from

1128
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: different angles and different you know, speed variations to see

1129
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: where it's going to go in. And it's not easy.

1130
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure they're working on you know, touch

1131
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: and feel and like how's the ball going to roll

1132
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: into the hole, and what are things that we're going

1133
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: to need to focus on that week to make putts

1134
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: because they know, you know, it's hard to know the problem,

1135
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: but it's a hard fix, it really really is. Because

1136
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: you can do you can feel great, and then that

1137
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: tournament rolls around and those green squeeds go up to

1138
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen, and then ball gets a little bouncy

1139
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, your confidence is wavering, right

1140
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: and you don't want it to waiver on the back nine,

1141
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: And I guess that's going to be tough to overcome.

1142
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: But you know he's also a player who's due to

1143
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: have a great week.

1144
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's face it, would you agree that putting is

1145
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: probably the one. Whether you're a ten handicap of five

1146
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: handicap of pro golfer, you three put that first green

1147
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you're really rattled.

1148
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1149
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. It can throw you

1150
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 2: off because you can hit a bad drive the next

1151
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: hole hit a good one, but putting, all of a sudden,

1152
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: you start freaking out over a five footer. It's we

1153
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: all have the same nerves standing over a putt.

1154
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: Some of the best shots you've ever hit come after

1155
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: some of your worst, right, there's like, yeah, it's like

1156
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: that's all right, I want to get this, Like I know,

1157
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: I got something I can see and I hit it

1158
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: up there, and you know, so yeah, especially there, putting

1159
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: can really you know, it can wear everything else down.

1160
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: It can be an anchor. And it's a real challenge

1161
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: for all the players out there, because they're not all

1162
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: bad putters by any means, but we're talking about a

1163
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: razor thin margin of air here in a winning of major,

1164
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: and they know that once you get close there, you

1165
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: get inside about ten feet, you got to make your plots.

1166
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: You got to make the ones that really really matter

1167
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: and they count. And so you know, all the players

1168
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: know that, they know they got to do that, and

1169
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: they got to figure it out. So Tony's a guy

1170
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: that just a little bit of confidence and a little

1171
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: bit of rhythm and a little bit of touch there,

1172
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: it could go a long way for him.

1173
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: We talk a lot about twelve thirteen, obviously, fifteen sixteen

1174
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: for me, nine and eighteen I mean nine hitting it

1175
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: down that tree line, then getting down there and then

1176
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 2: going up hill is always really cool in eighteen For

1177
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: us that will probably never play there, that shot looks

1178
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: like insanely intimidating, Like ninety nine percent of decent golfers

1179
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: are hitting a freaking tree. For you, what beside the

1180
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: super famous holes is just a hole. They're like, God,

1181
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: I love that hole in Augusta.

1182
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's so many. I think the roars that

1183
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess there are what exciting, Like sixteen is such

1184
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: a cool hole because there's that because it's funny. You

1185
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: know you know what's coming there. There's no really surprises there.

1186
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: You know you know where the pin's going to be

1187
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: On Sundays, you know it's going to be that back

1188
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: left plan. And so that was a fun hole because

1189
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: all in ones are just it feels like they're going

1190
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: to happen that day. You know there's gonna be a

1191
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: couple of them in the in the stuff, fans are

1192
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: all landing up, and I always like that transition. I

1193
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: was like, my favorite spot on that golf course was

1194
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: middle fairway on fifteen because I got seventeen to the right,

1195
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: I can see all the way all the way down

1196
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: to thirteen and fourteen. I can see what's happening on

1197
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: the green of fifteen, and I can see sixteen, and

1198
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: you can even kind of and you can kind of

1199
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: hear all these things happening around you, and you're at

1200
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: this kind of peak point on the golf course looking

1201
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: down at that green, the water, you know the water

1202
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: and the way the green is shaped, and you know, gosh,

1203
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: if I hit this a little long, it's going to

1204
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: hit that downslope and then I could go in the

1205
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: water on sixteen. It's just to me, that was always

1206
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my favorite plates there. And then

1207
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: the tee on thirteen where you're playing in this massive tournament.

1208
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: There's no one on the green on eleven, there's no

1209
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: one on the green on twelve, and there's no one

1210
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: on the t on thirteen, and you're just just by

1211
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: yourself and your players and your caddies and you guys

1212
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: can just talk and into being in such a huge,

1213
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: huge moment and a huge situation and there's no one

1214
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: around you. It's really trippy, and it's not like golf,

1215
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's not like really sports, right It's there's no yelling,

1216
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: there's no people, there's no you know, you the man

1217
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: or get in the hole, there's none of that there,

1218
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: and so it's this oddly peaceful, therapeutic place where you're

1219
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: just at the pinnacle of your career in a way,

1220
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: and the pinnacle of golf, and you're just like I said,

1221
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: it always feels the term always feels like it's about

1222
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: the players and that event and those kind of moments. Always.

1223
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: I always can feel that at those times.

1224
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: Do roars echo out there, like can you feel it?

1225
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, on Sunday, it's crazy, it's crazy, like

1226
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: you said, it's just because you know what's kind of

1227
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: coming back down on Sunday, what's going to happen where

1228
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: there's the pins are going to be the opportunities for guys,

1229
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: guys ahead of you that are making the charms, guys

1230
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: behind you that are maybe missing a putt. It's like

1231
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: everything that goes around there, it's really really cool, and

1232
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's just like I said, it's all about

1233
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: the players in the field that week, and you can

1234
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: feel it, and it's so exciting because not many majors

1235
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: were there's eagles and things are changing on the board

1236
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: so quickly and so fast, and so you can you

1237
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: have such like that another instinct there and you can

1238
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of hear everything and kind of feel what's happening

1239
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: around you, which is really really neat because the course

1240
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: isn't that huge. It's not that big. You know, holes

1241
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: are kind of stacked up with one another, and that's

1242
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: sort of the charm of it, and it's so that's

1243
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: what makes it so fun, is that you can feel

1244
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: everything around you. You don't really have to even look at

1245
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: the leaderboard because you kind.

1246
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Of know who's Hunter Man thinks Sunday afternoon getting the

1247
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: green jacket.

1248
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, I think Patrick Cantley, I

1249
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: would watch him. I'm going to go with Hollland Tho,

1250
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Victor Holland, I think it's going

1251
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: to have the week this week. But you know, I'm

1252
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 1: going to Hedge and the guys as well. Bout with Victor.

1253
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: I think he's due. I think he's due.

1254
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: Okay, when on this Tiger said he's feeling good some

1255
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: report yesterday striping the ball. Obviously he can break that

1256
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: cut streak would be his twenty fourth. I think straight yeah,

1257
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: cut twenty third, Tiger top twenty. I mean it's just

1258
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: it's it's because the weather's supposed to be a little rainy,

1259
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: but it's hot rain, like the southern hot rain, not

1260
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: freezing cold like last year. Does Tiger still have one

1261
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: in him? You know, he's talk he's talking it up.

1262
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: I always want to believe, but I gotta be realistic,

1263
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: not to will, but just how cool would that be?

1264
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: Just if he is just playing decent.

1265
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: To compete, to compete, and to be there on Sunday

1266
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: the weather looks great, like you said Thursday, maybe a

1267
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: little bit of rain. If he's on the right side.

1268
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: Of that, doesn't that help him a little?

1269
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like the hill, I don't know. With

1270
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: his ankle and everything. That course is so lead it's uphill,

1271
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: it's downhill. I mean, you are your shins are fried

1272
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: after that week. I mean, it's just all I mean,

1273
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a long course and it's and

1274
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Speaker 1: it's pretty efficient in a lot of areas. There's some

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Speaker 1: walks back, but it's not you're not it's not a

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Speaker 1: tough it's not a tough walk, but it's it's like

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Speaker 1: you don't tired, but your your body's just aches a

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: little bit, and your shins and everything because you're going

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Speaker 1: uphill so much. Then downhill. So I don't you know

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Speaker 1: he can make you believe I mean anything, like he's

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Speaker 1: he's got one more charge in him. I do think

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Speaker 1: he's putting everything he has into this week. It's just,

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's been through so much, Like his body

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01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: has just physically been through so much. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: imagine that he can play well for four days, that

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Speaker 1: he can actually stand in there and play well for

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Speaker 1: four days. I mean, it's been five years since he won.

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Speaker 1: And you could see it on Thursday. I was watching

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Speaker 1: him going, he's really comfortable, He's striping it. This this

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Speaker 1: is going to be interesting. You don't You just haven't

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Speaker 1: seen him play in a really long long time, for

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: decent rounds of golf. It's just his body is just

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01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: so broken down. But if anyone can can put something

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Speaker 1: together and make the cut, I do think he can

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Speaker 1: do that, and I do think he will. I would

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Speaker 1: say he's going to make the cut, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he might have a might have an unbelievable nine holes

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Speaker 1: on Saturday or something like that to peak in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, weended on this night. You're coach. Now, we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that listen handicaps, probably a lot

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Speaker 2: of probably a lot of well over tens uh. One

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Speaker 2: piece of advice could be something general to just improve

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Speaker 2: your game, improve your scoring, to just make golf a

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Speaker 2: little easier. That you see a lot of amateur golfers

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Speaker 2: not do well well.

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Speaker 1: One they can't putt. So if you cannot three pint,

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Speaker 1: like if you want to make your scores better and

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Speaker 1: you want to go from eighty five to seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: number one thing is stopped three putting so that it's

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Speaker 1: no fun and people won't do that. So whatever, but that's.

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Speaker 2: You do that you have practice putting, is that the thing?

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Speaker 1: Of course, you just practice funning. You practice putting, match

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Speaker 1: your stroke up with the putter. You can even go,

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, go left arm high, lily z or whatever

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01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: and get that thing up. Whatever you can do consistently.

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Speaker 1: But have good touch. Right, if you just have good

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Speaker 1: feel and good touch, hit a lot of long puts

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Speaker 1: different lit length putts. But I think on the swing

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Speaker 1: most people I've seen, especially watching these kids, plays like

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Speaker 1: they they stand up through the shot. So if you

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Speaker 1: can stay in your posture and make a big turn

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Speaker 1: more and you stay in your posture, it will help

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Speaker 1: you rotate through the shot and be more consistent. Almost

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Speaker 1: everybody pops out of it. As soon as you pop out,

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Speaker 1: it's over. It's like there's right and there's left and

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Speaker 1: they're both in play now. If you can stay in

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Speaker 1: your posture, I feel all the best players they do

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Speaker 1: a great job of saying in their posture. Laurer bodies.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just there's an angle there with your

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01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: leg in your back, and you stay in and it

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Speaker 1: helps you rotate and you fire through right. Look at

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01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson's swing or worries or whatever. But if you

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Speaker 1: can just do that, because rotation is a huge part

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Speaker 1: of the swing, and most amateurs can't rotate for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are just physically not capable. But that's

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Speaker 1: something that almost everyone does. They just pop out of

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01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: it and all of a sudden their arms are, you know,

1339
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: are flinging at the ball.

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Speaker 2: Be an athlete, try just try.

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Speaker 1: Golf is nfletic sport.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hunter, I really appreciate it. Enjoy the Masters, and uh,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Man, enjoy Scott still, thanks man, I will.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Tell Jason we say hi.

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Speaker 1: Of course. The volume