1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Martin Craig Washingman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: in Law with special guest Richard Delici, the longest serving 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: non violent cannabis offender who is now a free man. Hello, 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My name Lou 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: alongside of me or of the world famous Pot Brothers 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: in Law and Mr Joe Grande, and welcome christ Hello 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to the greatest cannabis show on this earth. I say 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: definitely in Orange County that covered it. I think that there. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: It is from here to Pluto. 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Learned the script 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: and so much more about our personal lives at Cannabis 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one at Pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Underscore Law. Mark is at wast Law. Craigs at wast Law. 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: Dog Blue was at one Christopher Rites, and I am 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: at Joe grand d A fifty two Richard de Lacy 24 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: and of course his lovely lawyer Elizabeth is with him. 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: But Richard Delicy is currently the longest surviving prisoner for 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: non violent cannabis offenses in the United States now. Richard 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: has been incarcerated since nine, serving over thirty two years 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: of his ninety years sentence. Richard is now seventy one 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: years old and has grown immensely as a person while incarcerated. 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: He has accepted responsibility for his actions in his past, 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: and as he quotes, I say, I am remorseful for 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: everything that I have done that is unlawf and fully 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: embraces every opportunity to better himself and those around him. 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: As a result of Richard's good behavior in good time credits, 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: he has a release dates for August two, but because 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen, that day is out here. Now we 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: have him via zoom with us. Yes, Richard, thank you 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. I want to start off 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: with how much we did you have on you that 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: got you incarcerated? And walk us down the story of 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: how you got arrested. Well, I actually have no weed 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: on me. It was actually a diverse thing. It's what 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: they called, you know, that's when the police and a 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: confidential informant sets you up. It was it was an 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: old friend of mine that owed me some money for 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: an aircraft that he had stole and crashed um while 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: I was in prison, and I was actually trying to 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: collect the Monday that he owed me, and instead he 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, he was working with the FDL and oh 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the other organizations I believe, I believe Elizabeth knows the 51 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: names of all right, what the Confidential Department was working with, 52 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: the d A, stuns, I r S, the Federal Bureau's 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: bacco and firearms, and all of the just different all 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: the different government organizations that he was receiving a check 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: from each of them. So so let's you know, it's 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: so crazy that they actually thought that this guy was legit, 57 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And meanwhile he was just 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: hearing from everywhere he could. He was taken from every 59 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: organization and they were paying him with fifty and roll bills. 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: That's the best part at all. And when I went 61 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to trial, I found out that he was worth like, 62 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, fourteen or two million or something. It's 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: a ridiculous number. And they didn't even care. You always 64 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: say what happy was that that he was on a 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: job for them, you know. And then and all that 66 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: did was just agree. He set up the plans in 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: motion to bring in fift hundred pounds of cannabis from 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: first it was gonna be Columbia and then Jamaica. And 69 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I had that change in countries that the actual informant 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: had made the decision of they were able to charge 71 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Richard with an extra charge of conspiracy to traffic cannabis 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: from one hundred to two thousand pounds. So he got 73 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: hit with an extra charge for a change that he 74 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: didn't even make the decision for What state? Did this 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: all happen? Out of? Lara, Florida? Wow? Now, now do 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: you speak Spanish? I said, do you speak Spanish? She 77 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: said no, He's Italian. What the hell are you doing 78 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: in Colombia? I had had in Cobby condis and stuff 79 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I've wound up in Columbia in the old days. I 80 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: had border coffee to fish it down there. That's what 81 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: they call it. You guys are at the age. But 82 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember Santa Matta Gold. Uh 83 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the name that sounds sounds familiar? All right, what do 84 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: you shot? That strained? Now to go all this stuff? 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: But that's the only thing that I ever smuggled in 86 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: my life was Santa Matta Gold? Got you? So coffee beans? 87 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: Was her? Was your come up? I'm sorry slinging coffee beans? 88 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: What's your job back in the days after? Would your 89 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: come up? No? No, I had your side the coffee 90 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: plantation because I bought it and I was shot and 91 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: it was a beautiful you know. Now, when when they 92 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: when they you know, arrested this and I mean the 93 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: the informant, was he previously arrested? And is this someone 94 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: that you knew for multiple years? He's been arrested so 95 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: many times it was ridiculous. And let him get away 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: with bringing four hundred fifty kilos of mat of cocaine 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: into the country. Wo wow? So he was They didn't 98 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: do so much stuff. And when he was on parole 99 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: approbation or something, he was driving down the road. The 100 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: police pulled him over and they owned the trunk and 101 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: they found the machine gun in that you vic to 102 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: sell now, this guy just got on the phone, He 103 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: got on the radio or whatever with the police and 104 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: got in touch with this guy called Bill Wolf from 105 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: the FDL. He backed the way now, but you got 106 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: him out of it every time. Wow. So Richard, as 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: this guy's your buddy, like Blue said, how long did 108 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: you know this guy before you started going down this 109 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: path with him? Oh? I knew him. I knew him 110 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: a real long time. He was a pre personal friend 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: of mine. And you didn't know about his past working 112 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: with the FBI and all that other ship. Oh, he 113 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: wasn't doing that when I went to prison. That's when 114 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: he started doing all that. So wait, and when did 115 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you first go to prison? In nineteen m Richard and 116 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: his brother for the first racketeering marijuana case in Florida. 117 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: They had been operating a pretty significant operation and um, 118 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: you know, the agents, the officers who worked on the case, 119 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: the prosecutors, they all wanted Richard and his brother ted 120 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: to get, you know, a significant amount of prison time, 121 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and they didn't get that. They got a couple of 122 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: years each. And so then once Richard was out during 123 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: that time period as well, the informant was also in prison. 124 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: So while the informant was in prison, he was approached 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: by the different agents and he became an informant during 126 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: that and then when Richard was released, because when the 127 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: informant started approaching him multiple times to try to get 128 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: him to take the bait so that way these agents, 129 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, could get that solid, big win that they 130 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: had wanted. And at that point you you thought you 131 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: were just dealing with your buddy and that was it. 132 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: I imagine, Richard R. Did they ever ask you, Richard 133 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: to to to roll over and being an informant as well? 134 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, you're a good man, sir. There's no 135 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: rat in your blood. Huh. I'm gonna think we don't 136 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: play that, that's right. Yeah, there are certain rules. I agree, man, 137 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: That's why I asked regulation. No, I know, you know, 138 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I I I understand. You know, we all agree with 139 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: you as well. Yeah, it's it's it's not right. So 140 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: let me let me say this. Um, you know, what 141 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: was it? And you know, I mean you just answered 142 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the best your ability. Was it pretty much all just cannabis? 143 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Or was there you know? Because I know when you 144 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: started moving in a lot of cannabis, a lot of 145 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: other things start coming into play. Right, So you know, 146 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: was there other things that were being involved or is 147 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: that something you can't talk about always? On the runway 148 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: in Colombia, we were loading up loading one of the 149 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: DC fours. I don't know if you know what kind 150 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: of aircraft that is. No, it's a giant four engine 151 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: aircraft that you could drive a couple of trafice. Okay, alright, 152 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: So I used to point about twenty five thousand pounds 153 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: of cannabis. Yes, And then one day I was out 154 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: there and and these other Columbians are out there and 155 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: one of their friends didn't show up, and they had 156 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: like I think they had twenty I think twenty thousand 157 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: kids of coke. But this way it was the size 158 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: of have tractic trailers hand us over it? Right? Did 159 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: that come from joint George Young South aeroplane that was 160 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: supposed to come get it? And the guy said to me, hey, man, 161 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: uh you know he said to my my Columbia connection said, 162 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: hey tell you tell they used to call me Toto 163 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: down there. Total. So he said, um, chiefs, Toto will 164 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: take this back on his aer plane instead of a 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: weed and he doesn't have to pay us, you know, 166 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of months and we'll charge you this 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: and after the things. And I told him, I said, hey, listen, buddy, 168 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't handle none of that kind of stuff. That 169 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: stuff kills people. I told you right there on the spot. 170 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: I said, I like to bring stuff that makes people 171 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: feel good themselves and makes their body feel good. And 172 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: the guy, the guy couldn't comprehend that that I didn't 173 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: want to make millions and millions and millions of dollars. 174 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: And I just called him, that's just not me and 175 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: my brother, you know, Yeah, we had that opportunity so 176 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: many times that I would never do it, you know. 177 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, I share that story with you because because 178 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: my father and I, you know, we're a little team 179 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of years allegedly, and and we uh, 180 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: we we did a lot of men. We we've done 181 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: a lot of moves ourselves, you know, and and through 182 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: that process, there was so many times that that we've 183 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: been approached with that, you know, people would say, hey, 184 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, do this or throw that in there, and 185 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: let's do that, and it was just like now we're good, 186 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: We're good. You know. My dad would always preach to me, 187 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, we we don't we don't sell 188 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: that ship that she gets you killed. You know, it's 189 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: like it kills people. Yeah, it gets it gets you killed. 190 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: It kills people. He's like, we don't do that, and 191 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: so it was just always off limits, you know. So, 192 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: and I know I know that that ethical. You know 193 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: that moment you're like, God, but the money looks so good, 194 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: but you're just going now, we can't make that play. 195 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: So one, I appreciate you for that, because a lot 196 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: of people can't. You know. Um, a lot of people 197 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: are just saying it for the money and fucking if 198 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm there and we could load it up, let me 199 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: get some more money. Yeah, yeah, so, you know, for 200 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: the money. I was into it because me and my 201 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: friends liked it, you know what I mean, And we 202 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: like the wait still. I used to say to my brother. 203 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I was like fourteen and I and 204 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I finally got high. I had hurt my ankle and 205 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: I was smoking to joining with my brother and I 206 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: said to my brother, I said, you know something, my 207 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: ankle feels so much better. And he said, to me, 208 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: get out of here. It's only because you're stone. I said, oh, man, 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this stuff's gotten something something to do 210 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: with doing something in your body besides just getting high, 211 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And after that, my brother 212 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: was a pure believer after that, because he knew I 213 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: would tell him something. Me and my brother are very 214 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: very close, you know. And did your brother did time 215 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: with you as well? Or did he? He got out 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: of seven years or seven I think seven or eight 217 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: years early because he was able to win an appeal 218 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: on his conspiracy to traffic conviction. So they had both 219 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: um been charged with racketeering and then traffic to Hannibis 220 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: and conspiracy and traffic, and the judge gave them the 221 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: thirty years the charges and then to run them um 222 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: consecutively so to amount to the ninety years. So each 223 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: of them were supposed to have done the ninety years. 224 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: But luckily Ted had won that appeal that he got 225 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: out early. And the best fault was I only called 226 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: for twelve to seven game and the prolled probation off 227 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: in Polk County in Florida said no, no, just give 228 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: him twelve, and they gave me three thirties. Run a 229 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: wild wow idea altogether. That's crazy, yes, So Elizabeth, Um, 230 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: when did you take on this case? What made you 231 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: decide to take on this case. How did it How 232 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: did it come to you? So back in the early 233 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: time of quarantine, I was online and I had seen 234 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: the Last Prisoner Projects had a video of how you 235 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: could help, you know, people serving these lengthy sentences for 236 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: non violent cannabis offenses. So I sent them an email 237 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: that I wanted to fall in here, and a couple 238 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: of weeks later they emailed it back saying they had 239 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Richard Gleesy here. He actually was in the same county 240 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: as meet, Palm Beach County. His home was about thirty 241 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: five minutes away from mine, and so from there I 242 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: was scared with two other attorneys and we worked, you know, 243 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: around the clock to try to you know, try to 244 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: get him early release. We first tried the clemency route 245 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: and that was a novo so um. Finally we were 246 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: able to raise enough attention and awareness that somebody at 247 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: the Florida Department of Corrections went in and found every 248 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: day possible of gain time to give Richard, and so 249 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: that way he would get out early. Because while we 250 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: were trying to make the argument that the virus was 251 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: a threat, they were not. They're not releasing people in 252 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Florida because of the COVID nineteen and well it doesn't 253 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: exist in Florida. Right. Everything's open and all that good stuff, 254 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: plum bar anything you want, you can go to. But 255 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: he trying to save even though he's waited so long 256 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: to see everything. We went and saw the hard new 257 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: hard rock casino down here, so made sure we worked. 258 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Asking everything, but trying to be saved. Did he did 259 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: he buy a drink? That's Elizabeth the lawyer. We have 260 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Richard Delicy serving a ninety years sentence, did not serve 261 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: the full ninety When we come back, Richard, I want 262 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: to ask you how you felt when these lawyers came 263 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: into the cell and to the prisoner's head. We're gonna 264 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: get you out. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one will 265 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: be right back after this. Welcome back to Cannabis Talking 266 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: one on one. Joe Grande was talking about Richard Delice. 267 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: You're in prison and I don't know how many people 268 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: may have approached you before with you know, a cannabis case, 269 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: going this is bullshit. You can't be getting ninety years 270 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: for cannabis. But I'm gonna roll the dice and say 271 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: there's probably been a few how did you feel when 272 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and her team walk in or how did that 273 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: all happen? When they approach you, going, I think we 274 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: want to work on this case to help you get out. Well, 275 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't you really start when Elizabeth and the last prison 276 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: of Project It started off as um, I don't know 277 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: if you have a sheen. Uh, free dot com? No, 278 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: not familiar with that. Free dot com was the first movement, 279 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: and that's more or less. I guess you actually found 280 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: out about it. Actually, I did see your website. Sorry, 281 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: I didn't understand you. Yes, your website. I did see that. 282 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: So okay, I'm familiar with free delest find his gun 283 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: in his nephew and they had really pushed for the 284 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: last twenty or so years. Has the internet was right? 285 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: That really laid that groundwork. So when we came in, 286 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: we already had some of that website already and people 287 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: have already had some awareness of his case. Got you 288 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: that's awesome? And then what happened? They walked in? But 289 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: how I mean this was the final stage of you 290 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: getting out? Walk us through that process where well what 291 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: happened was, um, I called my son at six o'clock 292 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: in the morning one day he lives and after them, 293 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: and my son had told me my old my oldest 294 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: son had called him at two o'clock in the morning, 295 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: but he was sleeping. He didn't think he understood what 296 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: he said. So I said to the old world day 297 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: to say. He said, he told me that that you 298 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: they changed. I said, come on, Rick, don't even play 299 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: around like that. He said, no, Dad, you they changed. 300 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: Because when I woke up, I thought I dreamed that 301 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: he told me that. And I went down when I 302 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: checked the computer, and he day has changed. And the 303 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: day that he had told my my my younger his 304 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: younger brother, was that that they changed uh to five 305 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: months and thirteen days. And then when he went on it, 306 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: it was like that five months and two days or something. 307 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: So he knew to something was going on. So I'm 308 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: sitting to my cell and they called me. They called 309 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: me over to our speaker and they tell me a 310 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: report to the Yorkster station. The class of the uniform. 311 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: That classification wants to see me immediately. And this is 312 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: very unusual for like ten o'clock in the morning, you 313 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I got dressed in everything 314 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: and I went down the classification and I went inside 315 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: a classification and the head the head DC person because 316 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I was in a private puisent at the time. Uh. 317 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: He was in a place called South Bay Correctional in 318 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: South Bay, Florida, and the d C lady was there 319 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: from the Compartment of Corrections of Florida and also the 320 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: head classification officer of South Bay and my classification officer. 321 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: So now I'm very very nervous because they called me 322 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: down to tell me that they made some kind of 323 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: mistake on the computer. And if I happen to see it, 324 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: don't be aware, don't be uh, don't be uh crazy 325 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: about it, because the day didn't change. This is what 326 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm thinking in my hedge, you know, because on the 327 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: way up there, I stopped in the hallway to talk 328 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: to this other lady and when she put my my 329 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: my name in the computer, it showed two thousand twenty seven. 330 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, they fixed whatever it was, you know, 331 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: and that's what they want to talk to me about. 332 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Walk into the office and I sat down and I 333 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: said Ms. Scott was very close to me, and you know, 334 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: she became a good friend of mine, my classification officer, 335 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: and the Scott said to me, I said, in the Scott. 336 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: Was everything all right? She said, yeah, everything's looking pretty 337 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: good actually, And I looked up the DNC legs. She said, well, 338 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: the head of classifications and d c UP in Tallahassee 339 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be calling you and telling you what's going 340 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: on on. So I sat there for a few minutes 341 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: and I was asking the question, and the phone rang, 342 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: and sure enough from speaking to the head of classification 343 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: in Tallahassee, which is unheard of. Right right, you're getting 344 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: a calling president. I've never heard of that thirty two years. 345 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Like this guy Rusties on the phone. So I get 346 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: on and he goes. He goes, Hi, Richard, how are 347 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: you doing? I said, okay, uh, I said, who is 348 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: this is? This is this Rusty? He said yes, He said, uh, 349 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm calling you to let you know you they had 350 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: changed and I didn't want you to find out about 351 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: it some other way. I wanted to explain to you 352 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: what's going on. So I said, okay. So now to day, 353 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like in five months and three or four days 354 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: or something. Right, So, while I was in prison, I 355 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: got like five distillary actions, which means like one was 356 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: kissing my girlfriend WS and the visitor Bob another one 357 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: was for leaving my job because I had the fool 358 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: and he used the path rom stupid stuff. So I 359 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: said to him, you know, I said to the guy, 360 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: w I talking to him after I talked for forty 361 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: five minutes, which was crazy, man, and about I guess 362 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: thirty five. About thirty minutes into the conversation, I said, 363 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, I had these d os, and I was 364 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you if this all was really true, 365 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: if there was any way I could get a little 366 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: out of game time back that I lost participinary action. 367 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: And uh. He said, yeah, they're discussed over in a minute, 368 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: but there's a few more things and anyone has to 369 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: done me some other stuff. And then he went back 370 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: to me and he said, oh yeah, I guess he 371 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: was checking to see what the d os were, you know. 372 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: And I can't believe they gave you for this pool 373 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: of ships right on in the loudspeaker. You know, that's great, 374 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: he said, I can't believe they gave you the bullshit. 375 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: I should you get thought the same thing, but I'd 376 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: still like to get like, you know, two or three 377 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: weeks back at a time, he said, how much time 378 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: to do is? I said, four months instead of giving 379 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: back now five months to a couple of days. Wow, 380 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: how do you feel right at that moment? That happened 381 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: on election Day? So I was volunteering at the polls. 382 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: They got a phone call from him and he gave 383 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: me the good news and it was a lot of 384 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: happy tears. I want to cry. And Elizabeth, so take 385 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: us behind the scenes of what you and the other 386 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: attorneys did that led up to this got this call 387 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 1: going so well. We initially probably could try to get 388 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: a clemency in Florida, that process is backed up about 389 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: two years, so Richard would have been out most likely 390 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: no matter what, even before his clemency application would have 391 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: been hurt by the governor. So we really just worked 392 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: hard to try to bring awareness. We you know, we're 393 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: in contact with the White House. We were trying everything 394 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: because we knew that if President Trump called up Governor 395 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: to Santis, it could be done overnight. So we just 396 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: kept trying to you know, every route possible and um 397 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: then we went the bedia, you know, going to the media, 398 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: and we put up the evidence that Richard had been 399 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: really over sentenced. You know that everyone else in Florida 400 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: who had been UM subject to racketeering or Norwana traffickers. 401 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: They all had like eleven year sentences. Like the most 402 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: anyone had ever been sentenced to in Florida for racketeering 403 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: was thirty eight years, while Richard was given ninety years. 404 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: We need to really present that evidence. And we think 405 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: that that is kind of what pushed someone to, you know, 406 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: whether it was Rusty or someone else in that office, 407 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: to really go through and okay, let's give him this 408 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: time to get him out. What actually happened was and 409 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: and and Elizabeth agrees with me. I said the hug 410 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: that there's been so much pressure put on these people. 411 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: They came up with some kind of hogwash to tell 412 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: me that I lost some game time. Because I don't 413 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: know if you guys ever did any time, but a 414 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: couple of us have been to jail. These two guys 415 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: up here half you know exactly when you're getting game 416 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: time and exactly how much you have every day you're 417 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: in there. Oh yeah, you're waiting for a good day 418 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to come. I believe that the senators and obviousts that 419 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: that the Last Prisoners Project was involved with got in 420 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: touch with them and they said, get this guy out 421 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: of prison he's raising way too many eyebrows in the media. 422 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Like I was on every TV program, I mean every 423 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: news broadcast channel ten, Fox, twelve, um, all these sounds 424 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: I was on. I I fired up the TV in 425 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: the day room. We've been watching TV and I've been 426 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: seeing my face off television. Yeah, Superstar in prison, it 427 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: was I was on and I was on the news 428 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: inside of my inside of my quad where I lived, 429 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: because they had a key out of there, you know, 430 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: the key thing that was the kiosk with the camera 431 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: to record some messages. No way broadcasting live from prison technology. Yeah, 432 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: he worked work, but it was a team efort, you know, everybody. 433 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: It took. It took Free Delicy dot com at the 434 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: last person this project, and it took some three super 435 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: lawyers and uh a law a lawyer that's gonna be 436 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: a lawyer here shortly to get me out to be 437 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: talking to you right now. That's great, that's a blessing 438 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: because cannabis shouldn't put anybody behind jails just for that 439 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: left alone. Thirty two years you served and you come out, 440 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: you get that call, you're in that room on the phone, 441 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: walk me through a little emotional and emotions right there. 442 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Did you drop to your knees? Did you go to 443 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: your cell and fall down on the side of the bed, 444 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: like what did you do to go? Holy shit? I'm 445 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: getting out and less than a month back. And I 446 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: said myself from walking down the hallway, because there's a 447 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: long hallway going into the four the five quads, you know, 448 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: rights just one of these circule deals and there's five 449 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: from quads, all two man rooms. And I was walking 450 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: down the hallway and you know, I had all these 451 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: crazy thoughts in my mind. We count I could be 452 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: home with my family here so shortly. It's ridiculous. This 453 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: this can't be happening. I thought, I was actually dreaming 454 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: at it down the hallway. This must be a dream 455 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: that him have too much pruno. I'm walking down in 456 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: a pitch in my hand, right, I'm staying And I say, 457 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: a load of the sergeant and the sciences had everything going. 458 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: I said, it seems to give pretty good, you know. 459 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean. I walked inside and when I walked inside, 460 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I went in and I got a really close friend. 461 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: That's uh. You know. It was my roommate that that 462 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: helped me out so much, a guy named Sean Bess 463 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: He's really a fabulous character and he would always help me. 464 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: And when I when I looked at Sean, and right 465 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: now it makes me cry when I think about it. 466 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: I looked at Sean and he looked at me and 467 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: he started crying. He said, something good just happened to 468 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: you that we're going to believe this. I'm going home 469 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: and he went and I said, probably the ninth of 470 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: the tenth the next month, but I think it's going 471 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: to be more like the eight. And he just broke 472 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: up into tears, grabbed the home and was saying, Hallelujah. 473 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Did Jesus I'm talking about big time, you know what 474 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I got tears in my eyes. I 475 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: wanted to get a good little emotion. That's why I 476 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: think I wanted to feel this. I know you had. Yeah, man, 477 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: that's special. So so you know, you get out okay, 478 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: and did you have at least a one goodbye spread 479 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: before you left? Right? But while I'm in the dormitory 480 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: one day before I get out, the warden comes to 481 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: me and he says, to me, uh, I'm getting a 482 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: word that there's all kinds of media people getting set 483 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: up at the end of the road. No they were 484 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: getting set up in the parking lot the day before, 485 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, all kinds of TV stations all over the country. 486 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: And I said, uh, you know, he was making it 487 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: was my fault. I said this, I don't have anything 488 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: to do with me. You know, I don't know nothing 489 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: about what's going on outside. I mean, I'm gonna I'm not. 490 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: I didn't make the for me. You know you're coming 491 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: to me. I tell me, I gotta do something about it. 492 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I can't do about whatever they're gonna do, they don't do. 493 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: But I had no idea. So he tells me, I 494 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: don't want to make this thing into a zoo. You 495 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm going to do is I'm gonna make 496 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: the media go down the road to the big bark 497 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: lot that's right down the road, that was right in 498 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: front of the prison, right. So I said, whatever you 499 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: have to do do But uh, you know, I you know, 500 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't really hip to the media gain out there 501 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: and everything. I knew that they that they were using 502 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: my my voice and stuff on their programs kind stuff 503 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: like that, you know. So I packed up all my 504 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: stuff and I'm out the gate. I don't know if 505 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: you see video, but if you want, will send it 506 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: to you could take a good look at. I had 507 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: a walker and I piled all my stuff on it. 508 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna leave it behind, but I had all 509 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: these things that I had to carry outside. Just wrote 510 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: it excuse me on the walker. And I've come around 511 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: the bend the gate is, you know, around the building, 512 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: and I hear all these people screaming and killing. It's 513 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: like six people out there, and these aren't even media people. 514 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: What the friends and relatives that came from all over 515 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: the United States, move the world to be in the 516 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: parking lot. So the first thing happened, you know, I 517 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: I broke up before I even got out of the gate. 518 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: And then I went out to the gate. Everybody hugged 519 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: a kiss, and we spent the probably the better part 520 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: of an hour just right there in the parking lot. 521 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: And then my son says, come on, load up, park 522 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: getting in the truck, we gotta go, and uh, you know, everybody, 523 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: lawyers and everybody, and in order we went to eating 524 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: this restaurant later on, but we told everybody where we 525 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: be at a certain time, and we go. We go 526 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: cruising down the road right, and when I get to 527 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the end of the road. That's where the the cammeras 528 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: set up with the with the local news and all 529 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. And I was just like, I'm now I'm standing. 530 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm standing in front of the prison. You can see 531 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: the prison in the background from where I was standing, 532 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: clear as day, the gator and everything. And now I 533 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: got a black leather jacket on, a shirt, a nice 534 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: polo shirt, nice Firs, nice shirt and everything, and I'm 535 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: setting it on the book about and I'm saying, we 536 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: count my friend. I was just with inside, I'm gonna 537 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: be watching this. You know, I gotta be real cool 538 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: about you know everything. You know what I'm saying, right, 539 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: said anybody any of my friends that I knew I 540 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: had left behind, but I didn't know it, but already 541 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: they were already broke up big time, you know what 542 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: I mean. It was really crazy, you know, because Richard 543 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: in there was effectually called Ritchie, and he had all 544 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: different people who he was friends with. Whereas usually people 545 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: kind of stick to their clicks or their games, Richard 546 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: was friends with everyone and they really looked out for him. 547 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: But there was but no one ever. I mean, like, 548 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm a big guy, you know what I mean. I mean, 549 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: I would let no one message me anyway. But they 550 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't let anybody even have a chance to mess with me, right, 551 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: so you crossed over all the lines. There was no 552 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: boundaries with you. Oh yeah, there was no one. There 553 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: was no one I could do anything for me in 554 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: the prison. It was you know what I mean. And 555 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of unheard of there because there's always the game, 556 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: the the prison game of politics. Yeah yeah, that guy's 557 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: uncle with you, and don't anybody message with him, you 558 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Very nice. That's just the way 559 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was unbelievable, you know. So when you 560 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: come out, now you know you're you're you're living. Are 561 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: you living with your family? Now? What where's where's home? 562 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: What do you have going on? I'm staying with my 563 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: sister in law. And let me ask you this, Richard Um, 564 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, have you considered writing a book? And uh, 565 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: we gotta have people from Hollywood already involved, because just 566 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: the stories he can tell when you're hanging out and 567 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: can it'll allow your that will be on the big 568 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: speary books. I mean, if I was shooting mere talking, 569 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I told you a couple of things that you know, 570 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: just like the things that happened to me in my 571 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: lifetime that was involved smuggling or whatever it might be. 572 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: You'd be like, why don't you write a book about that? 573 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: We've that's another show. I think we've got to have 574 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: you back, and we talked about all your old exploits. 575 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Well not only that, want to come back on your Yeah, 576 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: we're actually shooting a show right now too that we'd 577 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: like to even you know, some of these an interview 578 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: interview you as well again on a different show that 579 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: we're doing. Yeah, we're actually we're shooting a documentary and 580 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: and we're working on some projects that the pop brothers 581 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: that Law brought and with cannabis talk one on one 582 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: and and we're actually, um, you know, we look for 583 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: stories like looking for stories just like this. We just 584 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: had the conversation yesterday and and some of the producers 585 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: were asking us to to kind of keep our eyes open, 586 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: and then here we are today with it and it 587 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: didn't even cross our minds. We didn't even think about 588 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: it earlier. Just think O, this would be a perfect 589 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: example of somebody that we interview that we would put 590 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: this on our show. So maybe we're flying out there 591 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: and sitting down with you again and going to overre 592 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: a little deeper and in depth on certain things. But Richard, 593 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: your story is amazing. We can go in for hours 594 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: and hours. When we come back, we want to get 595 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: into the high five with you five great questions and 596 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait to get the answers from you. Thirty 597 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: two years in prison just for cannabis. We'll be right 598 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: back after this. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one, 599 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: Mark and Craig the pop brothers at Law with Blue 600 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: and Joe Grande, and we want to get a very 601 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: special thanks to Pick, Peanut, Jen and Elvis for making 602 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: it all sound good and great. Now my favorite time 603 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: at the show, The Cannabis Talk one on one Hi 604 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: five Joe Richard Delicy out of Florida right now. He 605 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: served thirty two years of his ninety years sentence. He's 606 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: now seventy one years old. He went in for a 607 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: stupid cannabis case and now he's out free like a bird. 608 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna do it with you, Richard. Ask you 609 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: five simple questions. After you answer, we want your attorney 610 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: lawyer Compidant right next to you, Elizabeth to answer the 611 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: same ones as well. Because there's nothing like getting a 612 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: lawyer who's a professional like Elizabeth as well to break 613 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: the stigma, because I don't know if you know this 614 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: Richard my partner right here next to me, Mr Mark 615 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Washerman with the gray hair. He has also an attorney 616 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: from the Pop Brothers at Law. He's been practicing law 617 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: for over thirty years and he is an active cannabis 618 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: user and was the first attorney to ever come out 619 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: on social media to smoke weed socially, so we call 620 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: it coming out of the green closet. So this guy 621 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: right here is a pioneer, buddy ye. So question number one, 622 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: how old are you the first time you smoked? And 623 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: where did you get it from? I was fourteen now 624 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: I was thirteen, and we were standing in front of 625 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: this candy store where I grew up in a place 626 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: called Weezy Point in New York. And this guy pulled 627 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: up with a brand new car. I think he had 628 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: a g T or something, some kind of real mized car. 629 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: And I see all the kids from the store run 630 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: over to him, run over to the car, right and 631 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: I said to my friend. I looked over my friend, 632 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I said, man, what's going on with that dude? Why 633 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: the kids running over to the car. But so when 634 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, what's everybody going over there? He said, oh, 635 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: he shall we set me nash and stuff. I said, 636 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: what what's that? He said, you know you're smoking? So um, 637 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: I found out who he was. I found out where 638 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: he was getting from. And instead of them kids running 639 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: over to his car, I was giving him what times 640 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: this month for the same price. And they were all 641 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: my friends, you know what I mean. And we put 642 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: him out of business. It wasn't out in the neighborhood anymore. Alright. 643 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: Question number hold on Elizabeth Now, I'm sorry. Yes, um, 644 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: I think when I was like sixteen, in the back 645 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: of my friends brand new car we her boyfriend, it 646 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: was the most trash mids possible, excited to be able 647 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: to tripod like everybody else had already been doing. Nice. 648 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: Are you like nineteen now? Very much? Alright? Question number 649 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: two of the high five? What is your favorite way 650 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: to use cannabis? Richard? Um? I actually, um, you know 651 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I have a problem shilp d Now, so you know 652 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm a smoker. I love to smoke. I still smoke 653 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I really can't. I vape a 654 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: little bit too, but mostly uh uh these little drops 655 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: I put onto my tongue, they take my body, my 656 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: physical body, and my head. All right, Elizabeth, what is 657 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: your favorite way to use cannabis? I take good old 658 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: joint or edibles. I definitely love edibles, gummies and cookies, candy, 659 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: all of it. You make some good, good, good gummies, 660 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: he expects the allegedly, yeah, when it drives him down 661 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: to California. You know what's so freaking unbelievable. This is 662 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: what blew my mind, I think the most of all. 663 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: I spent all that time in prison for this thing, right, 664 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: and last week my cod, my medical cad, and I 665 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: walked into a store by the same thing that I 666 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: was wow and no one could go to jail for it. 667 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I walked outside, and I said, 668 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: you gotta be freaking kidding me, right, Richard, Question number 669 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: three of the high five craziest place You've ever smoked 670 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: or used cannabis or even sold? PLACEY smoked or sold 671 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: or place probably under the boardwalk where I grew up 672 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: when I didn't want anybody to know what I was doing, 673 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: where I were having some five under the bark, all right, 674 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: But it was many many wild places or a smoke, 675 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: because I mean I was smoke. I didn't care I 676 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: was smoking. If I was flying an error plane, I 677 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: start smoking, and John, I didn't care, you know. Or 678 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: if I was out in the boat, is somethun fishing? 679 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, Elizabeth, we got weed 680 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: on the boat for what if it does some stoppers like, okay, 681 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a throat in the water, anybody? So true, Elizabeth, 682 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: so many places. That is really a hard one. But 683 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about that and next time that I 684 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: talked to you, you have about five or six other 685 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: places about you, Elizabeth. Probably wildest is but in the library. 686 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: All right, Richard, what is your go to Munchie's after 687 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: you get high? For question number four of the Cannabis 688 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: Talk one on one High five, it's probably um Italian 689 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: pastries or or brownies or something like that, especially to 690 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: this this woman that's sitting next to me. You guys, 691 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: try or brownies. I can't wait. All right, these we 692 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: come to California, meet you guys. We're gonna bring your box. 693 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no. I don't know that 694 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: that's advisable. I don't think you want to be crying. 695 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: Brown regular brownies, regular brownies. What were you thinking? I 696 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: was thinking pot brownies. Come on, well those two. But yeah, 697 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: I said it not to you know, when you get 698 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: to California, will infuse them. Yeah, we'll take care of 699 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: him when they get here. Don't worry about it. What 700 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: about you, Elizabeth? What's your go to munchy? Um? If 701 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 1: it's like during the day Fried Chicken? If it's nice, 702 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: I love Matt, like making a warm chocolate chip cookies nice? 703 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, both of those are key to my heart. 704 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: Right there, he relaxed. Joe fried Chicken brought question number 705 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: five with a high five, with Richard Delacy and the 706 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: lawyer Elizabeth sitting right next to him. Richard served thirty 707 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: two years in prison just for a cannabis case. This 708 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Number five. If you could smoke cannabis with 709 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: anyone dead or alive, who would it be and why? 710 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: Richard for this said say that again, I wish I 711 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: could super my son and oh got you sorry to 712 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: hear that his son's about ten years ago and so 713 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: that's would have been something he would have really enjoyed doing. 714 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: Or condolences go to you, Richard, I'm sorry for your 715 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: loss and uh, that'd be a good one. That would 716 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: be a good one. What about you, Elizabeth? Probably John F. 717 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: Kennedy like that? And why John F. Kennedy just to 718 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: hear some crazy storas while smoking? But I feel it 719 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: would be really cool. Is probably smoking in the White House. 720 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: So with Marilyn Monroe, did you think that the that 721 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: the weed got a lot better? Richard? What did you 722 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: think of the difference from back in the data now 723 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: the weed that I used to bring, I'd rather smoke 724 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: nice because it was stronger, right, you said it was 725 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: like a different feel. It had a beautiful feeling when 726 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: you smoked it. It tasted so beautiful natural and worked 727 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: the same way every single time you smoked. Say you 728 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: smoked join it like ten o'clock in the morning, you 729 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: still be lit up one o'clock in the afternoon from it. 730 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: That's great. Don't know any weed that day sell today 731 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: at these dispensaries that actually works like that. I mean 732 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: you could take a gummy or something and it lasts 733 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: a little while longer, but as star as smoking and 734 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: joint and staying buzz for three well, I was hours. 735 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: It's impossible with the stuff that they that they have today. 736 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: But let me tell you something in case smells and 737 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: so beautiful. You know, yes, we agree, yes it is. Well. 738 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: You can find them on Instagram at free Delasy the 739 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: website free delasy dot com. That's f R E E 740 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: D E L I S I. Thank you Richard, and 741 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: thank you Elizabeth for coming on. Your story is amazing. 742 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: We can't wait to slap hands with you Richard when 743 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: you come to Los Angeles as well as you Elizabeth. 744 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you guys like to promote 745 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 1: before we let you go? Just um, I gotta thank 746 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: you for what you're doing, you know, trying to help 747 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: other people. And that's that's what I'm That's what I'm 748 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: really after right now. The guys that I left behind 749 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: that are in there for the same type of deal 750 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: with me. There was a couple of people right in 751 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: the quad with me. You know. I was fortunate I 752 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: got home for prison back there right now. Alright, God 753 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: bless your brother. Thank you again for coming on Cannabis 754 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. Guys. Remember this. If no one 755 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 1: else loves you, we do. Thanks for listening to another 756 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: podcast of Cannabis Talk one oh one, the world's number 757 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis, featuring Richard Delicy, the longest 758 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: serving non violent cannabis offender who is now a freeman.