1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm Kaylie Shore and this is too much 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: to say it out you Okay, Well, I want to 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: start off by saying thank you so much for all 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: of your support on the EP I got here by accident. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Came out last week, and um, it's just been amazing. 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: I had the coolest really show ever. It was Oh 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: my god, I need to post more videos of it, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: but like there's so many and it was just such 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: a magical experience. Hey, I was so excited to be 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: back with my band. Um and like you know, on stage, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: playing a real show and having you guys all out 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: there and like standing for some reason, Like you know, 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: you wouldn't think that you'd take for granted standing in 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: a show, but like we absoluted and so like seeing 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: y'all out there like dancing and stuff. It was amazing. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: But um, I got to sing a song with my 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: producer Butch, and we did a deep cut from his album. 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: It's called Alisha Amnesia and it's one of my favorite 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: songs of all time. It's really really pop punk and 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: he told me he hadn't played it in like twenty years. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: So when you told me I could pick any song, 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: I really picked any song, but we had such an 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: amazing time. My band was so excited. And then the 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: very next night, but You got to make his Opery 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: debut during a set with me there and we played 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: love Child together. Then we did a duet on one 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of his songs called Closest Thing to You I'm Going 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: to Find, And then we ended with an acoustic version, 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: little sort of acoustic. It was cohone and electric guitar 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: and me doing heard You Got a Girl. Very broke 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: down because like that song is super super pop punk 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: when it's produced, but lyrically and like structure wise, it's 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: very country and it's a very country like you see 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: what I did. They're kind of hook. So the Opery 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: loved it. It was amazing, but it was so special 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: to get to be up there with him. Um, the 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Opery is just one of my favorite places on the planet. 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: And UM, I'm gonna tweet about this too because I 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: was really impressed. And there's a lot of racism in 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the country music community and that's just not a fucking 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: secret at all. Um. If you don't believe me, go 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: look at the replies to literally anything Mickey Guy and tweets. Um, 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: she's one of my favorite people on the planet. She 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: just doesn't deserve it and it makes me angry. So 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: there's so much bad out there, but when something good happens, 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I think it's really important to share it. UM. So 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the Opry I went in there and I saw like 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: they had a little sheet for me of questions they 49 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: had prepared for something as part of the Circle Network, 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: and I thought it was going to be you know, 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: music questions, and it was, but in the way that 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: it was like, so, how are you affected by COVID 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: and you know what UM was going through your mind 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: when the Black Lives Matter movement happened, Um, did you 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: want any of the protests, all of these questions about 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: it and like opening up the conversation on the Opery 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: network to talk about that. And it just shouldn't feel 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: dur pretty or weird or like secretive to share that 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: you like win and you know, express your desire for 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: equal rights for people that aren't your demographic. It just 61 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be shocking. So the Opery was just like I 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: end up having like an hour long interview because the 63 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: guy was conducting it, who was a white man, was 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: so passionate about the work he was doing. For the Opery, 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and he told me that it's been reflected in their 66 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: hiring process and they've been um hiring more people of color. 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: And it was just really really cool and and really 68 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: he was very educated about it. It wasn't somebody like 69 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: trying to be like, so, hey, woke kids, how do 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you feel about the bill that you know, like like 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: some old boomer Like. It wasn't no idea, what's going on? 72 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Who's just trying to keep his corporation relevant? It was 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: absolutely not that. It was a deep desire to change 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: the culture and country music starting with one of its 75 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: oldest institutions that has a lot of racism in its history. Um. 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean the Opery was founded, you know, hun like 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: over a hundred years ago, and so it's um not, 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: it's not going to be the prettiest history, just given 79 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: that it was the South and it was you know, 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: back then. UM, gonna look at the actual year the 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: opera was founded. I feel like I should know that, 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: but let's see, all right, yeah, my god, so it's 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: almost a year anniversary. But um yeah, so you know, 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: it's there's a lot there, and so the fact that 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: they're doing everything they can to correct that history and 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: start a new era of the Opery, go into this 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, new centennial for them, um, you know, just 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: just changing the old ways and you know, having equal 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: representation on there. It's very very, very beautiful, and I 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to give the operation shout out for that 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: because I was very impressed and I was very um 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised, and and anyways, it was just a magical 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: and operate always it was um or it always is, 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: and that was actually my twentieth time officially, So I'm 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: really proud to be a part of the Opery. I 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: get prouder every day and it's just one of my 97 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: favorite stages. And so to get to have Butch there 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: too was really really special and he loved every second 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: of it. And then we went to David Busters after. 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: It was so rad because David Busters is right across 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: the street from the Opery, so that's like where I 102 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: had my party after my opera debut, which is pretty funny. 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: You like go in all dressed up and you're like, 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: let's go play the life sized temple run. I have 105 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: no complaints. It was amazing. Um. So this episode is 106 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: all about the EP because you know, it just came 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: out and I wanted to give a little bit of 108 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: behind the story behind um all of these songs. And 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna start I've told you guys so much 110 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: about Amy. Let's come back to that one because I 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: feel like I have a little bit of new information 112 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: to reveal. But we'll end with Amy. But going through 113 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: the track list, starting with I Heard You Got a Girl. 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: So I Heard You Got a Girl is a song 115 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: about a rumor I heard about my ex boyfriend and 116 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: his um and his girlfriend and I heard it from 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: a friend and we were talking about how they'd kind 118 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: of been moving really fast, and she was like, yeah, 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean like I heard that she might be like 120 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: pregnant or something like that. Something's going on, Like they're 121 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: they're moving really fast, and like she just met his 122 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: family and like, I don't know, I feel like something's happening. 123 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, ship. And then I was 124 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: writing with Skip Black, who produced Open Book with me, 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: and then Fred Willum who wrote My Voice and Angry 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Butterfly with me as well, and we were talking about 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: it and he was like, had this thought and he 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: was like, I heard you got a girl dot a 129 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: dot pregnant and we were like, oh my god, so 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: we wrote it. It was so funny. I ended up 131 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: finding out that the rumor wasn't true. Um, but the 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: song still it cracks me up. And I posted on 133 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: TikTok and a lot of people have had similar experiences apparently, 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: but the real punchline for this song for me is 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: him and um, the the rumored baby mama who was 136 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: not a baby mama ended up breaking up because he 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: sucks and now her and all your friends and um, 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, were like three martinis deep one night, 139 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I'm like really sorry about 140 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: all the songs that rude about you. And she was 141 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: like it is totally fine, Like you have to process this. However, 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: we have to process this. And I was like, oh 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: my god, this is feminism. This is feminism. So that 144 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: to me is the happiest of endings. And yeah, so 145 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: if she can listen to the song, so can you 146 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: guys go streaming? Writing that one was so fun though, 147 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: and like from the very beginning, I had a very 148 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Avril feel to it from the demo um and but 149 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, produced Avril Levine, so that was really helpful 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: in capturing that energy. But that one was like probably 151 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the most fun to play live, closely followed by Alibi. 152 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: But I Heard You Got a Girl one of my favorites, 153 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: one of the earliest songs that UM made it on here, 154 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Alibi Amy, I Hate the Way This Feels, and Love 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Child are all written in the past year, but I 156 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Heard You Got a Girl was written almost two years ago. 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Out happy it found its way into the world. I 158 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Hate the Way This Feels is the first song I 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: ever wrote about Sam, and it's a very Kayleie Shore 160 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: love song in the sense that it's like, oh my god, 161 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm catching fields. Oh my god, what what do I do? 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: What do I do? When? My god? Oh my god? 163 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I hate this. I love this. He's great. I love that. 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I hate this one, you know, just like word vomit. 165 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened in the writing room. So 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: I was with Jason Lennig and Skip Again and I 167 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: just met Sam like I think I was, well, I've 168 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: known him for a while, but I just said, like, 169 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, UM figured out I had feelings for him, 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we spent some time together. Um his 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: family listens to this podcast. Hi, UM, So I'm like 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: trying to remember like to you know, be a little 173 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: tiny bit classier, just a little bit, especially when it 174 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: involve Suim Sunny. As we've been spending some time together 175 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: and um, it was starting to become a parent that 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: we were like incredibly compatible and really liked each other. 177 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: And I was freaking out. And I'm in this room 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: with these two you know, middle aged dads, and I'm 179 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: just going on and on and I'm like, I don't know, 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: like maybe I should just like not text me back 181 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: for like two days and like just like calm down 182 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: and take the time to myself, like not like feel 183 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: pressured to respond and like not let him think that 184 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: he has control over me or anything like that. And 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: they're just sitting there, like uh huh, writing stuff down 186 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: and I eventually there's a line in the second verse 187 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: that says I asked an eight ball if this how 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: this would play out, and it told me that it's 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: going to work. And I actually did that. So there 190 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: was an eight ball on the coffee table at Jason 191 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: Studio and I was like on my rant and I 192 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: was like, okay, eight Paul, what do you have to say? 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Army and Sam, I'm going to be 194 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: together forever, and I shook it and it said all 195 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: sides point too yes, and I was like, and then 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: the one that comes after is I'm scared. I'm afraid 197 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: that you'll leave, I'm scared that you'll stay, and I 198 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know which one would be worse. And that's exactly 199 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: how I felt in that moment. So I played that 200 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: for Sam after we started dating, and I was really nervous, 201 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: but he played me a song he wrote about me first, 202 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: and it was called Terrified and it was about like 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: how I'm terrified of you, how much I like you? 204 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: And I was like, thank you, I think, and he 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, thank you, I think. So they're very 206 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: very interesting little love songs. Next is love Child, and 207 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: Love Child is very self explanatory from you know, it's 208 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: just a very this is what happened song, This is 209 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: my life, but basically everything in it is incredibly true. 210 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Like I loved doing the little visualizer that we did 211 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: because I got to show the actual two tone car 212 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: that my dad drove when I was little, and when 213 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: we were writing the song, it was actually so this 214 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: was my first in person right after COVID that wasn't 215 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: like with Sam or my roommates and we were in 216 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Eric Dodd's backyard. It was me, him and Bruce Wallace. 217 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: They're just incredible guys and it was a really creative space. 218 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: But we were all, you know, we've written before. We 219 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: wrote this song called the Best you guys might Have 220 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: Seen on my TikTok, which I still love that song. 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: But we already wrote well together. But we'd all been 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: cooped up for months and this was like July August 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: of and we were like finally felt say to, you know, 224 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: go do a backyard right. So we're outside, the sun 225 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: is shining, it's a beautiful day, and we got started 226 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: on this idea and we were just all so ecstatic 227 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: to finally be like in a space with the other 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: writers and not on zoom because that really was kind 229 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: of soul sucking. And I'll still do it like if 230 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: I have to. It's nice because like if you're if 231 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: you're sick, but you still want to write, like you can, 232 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, call call in on Zoom or whatnot. But 233 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: there was a time period where that was every single 234 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: day and I'd have to tear at a computer for 235 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: five hours straight and I was just like, it's horrible. 236 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how my little brother and sister do it, 237 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: to be honest, but were just the energy that was 238 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: there because of how excited we were to just literally 239 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: be there. I think that contributed to the song and 240 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: we got going on it because of my um My 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: dad had told me the story about how he had 242 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: danced on stage with Janis Joplin, and I'd heard that 243 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: story in my whole life. I didn't, like not believe him, 244 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: but I part of me was like, I thought he 245 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: might be remembering it wrong, or like just maybe stretching 246 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: the truth a little bit for dramatic effect. And if 247 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Jane's Choplin is involved, I get it all right. I 248 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: get I get the slight exaggeration because it goes from 249 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: being a good story to a great story. But Candy 250 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and I were talking about it and he had retold 251 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: me the story and said something about how it was 252 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: when she was filming a concert movie in Frankfurt, Germany, 253 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, if it was for a 254 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: movie like that, footage has to be online, right, So 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: I google it. Sure a fuck enough. You can see 256 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: my dad, like five ft six dad in his like 257 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: this giant fur co on stage, dancing around with Jan's 258 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: Choplin a bunch of other people up there, and I 259 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, he was absolutely telling the truth. 260 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: And so I started talking to Bruce and Eric about 261 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: that story, and we were like kind of talking about 262 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: how even though I had a really tough childhood, like 263 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: I still wanted to write a song that sort of 264 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: was a nostalgic because it wasn't all bad and all 265 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: the good part and the bad parts maybe I was. 266 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: So I wanted to kind of acknowledge that it kind 267 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: of a country trope that like where I came from thing, 268 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: but have it be you know, about my story and 269 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: not trying to pass it over at all. So as 270 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: we started going, the Jane's Joplin idea sort of didn't 271 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: make it into the song, but sometimes that's the coolest 272 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: thing an idea can do. It's just like get you 273 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: going and then you realize that you're onto something way 274 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: bigger than that. But we did keep in the stuff 275 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: about Woodstock and nine nine and all that stuff. But 276 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: that's where the song came from. And also, fun fact, 277 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: we googled the hospital that I was born at to 278 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: make sure that it like the actual feat it was 279 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: from the bar and from the ocean, and it was 280 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: fet from the ocean and two ft from a bar 281 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: and Sam and I when we stayed in Portland a 282 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. My sister book the airbnb that 283 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: we stayed out for the wedding, so I didn't know 284 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: where it was exactly, and it was literally like right 285 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: behind the hospital that I was born out. So it 286 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: was really cool because we were twelve unterviewed from the 287 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 1: ocean to nterview from a bar. Then we have alibi, 288 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: so Alibi. I am so excited that this song made 289 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: it on the EP. It almost didn't. Fun fact, but 290 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: I wrote this song about my friends and specifically I 291 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: was talking about um my friends Kavanaugh, Candy. I was 292 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: talking to Sam about Kavanaugh and I was like, you know, 293 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't have to like see her all the time 294 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: for her to be one of my favorite people on 295 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: the planet. Like if the police called me right now 296 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: and we're like were you where was Kavanaugh on the 297 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: night of Friday the blah blah blah blah, and I'd 298 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: be like, oh, she was with me, sorry, her friends 299 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: were dead and say. I was like, that's a song idea. 300 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: So we wrote it with our friend Jamie Floyd, and 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I love how it came out. It's like a sweet 302 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: little friendship song with a ton of murder metaphors and 303 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: just very it manages to be really sweet and really 304 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: dark at the same time. So I'm excited about it. 305 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: But so it almost didn't make it on the EP 306 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: because the work tape, which is what songwriters call an 307 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: iPhone recording of you know whatever they did that day, 308 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: just like the super rough, like here's the melody, here's 309 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: the bones of the song, let's not forget it. It 310 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: was like really rough and you could hardly hear the 311 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: guitar parts, and the guitar parts are some of the 312 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: coolest parts of that song, and so it really just 313 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: sounded like a kind of garbled vocal and a very 314 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: distinct guitar and so and I played it for my 315 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: label and my management They're like, oh, cool song. Yeah, Like, 316 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: it just doesn't sound like a single to me, or 317 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you know, the song, And Butch and 318 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: his manager completely disagreed with that, and to the point 319 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: that Butch was like, Okay, let's just start on the track. 320 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: We don't We're not gonna ask anybody's permission. We're just 321 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: gonna get started so they can hear what it can 322 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: sound like. And then if they don't want to use it, fine, 323 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: we just scrap it. We'll just do another one and 324 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: I don't charge for Albi And I was like, Okay, 325 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: well that's a that's a compelling idea. Let's do that. 326 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: So we did it. Turns out everybody loved it, and 327 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: me and Butch got a big I told you so, 328 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: and so did his manager j D. And it just, um, 329 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: it ended up being the single, which is really funny 330 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: because it almost wasn't even on the e P at all. 331 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: And it's so fun to play live. I love having 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: a positive friendship song on there, if you if you 333 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: can call it that, um, it's just it's just really 334 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: fun and like you know, I think about boys all 335 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: the time, but that gets boring. It's really nice to 336 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: sing about life as well. And actually Open Book is 337 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: more life songs than it is boys songs if you 338 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: go back and look, because I was like, is this 339 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: a break up barker and I was like, no, it's 340 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: really not just a just a pissed record, it's just 341 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: a sad, crying, pizzy record. Then I'm very proud of 342 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: and um, I mean, sad, crying and pizzy is is 343 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: definitely a mood of mine for sure, So that just 344 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: captures that. But the TV feels a little bit more 345 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: like I'm far away enough from these situations that i 346 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: can laugh at them, like the bad ones, and I'm 347 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: also in a good spot with like, you know, my 348 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: childhood and with my friends. And it's just it's really 349 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: nice to have a project that's it's a little more 350 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: positive because open Book, like was completely reflective of where 351 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: I was at that point in my life, and this 352 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: is reflective of where I'm at now. And I want 353 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: all of my albums and stuff to feel like a 354 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: time capsule for where I was at that point in 355 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: my life. And this absolutely does. Open Book absolutely does, 356 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: Awake absolutely does, and just like collecting these little time capsules, alright, 357 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: And that's but not least. We have a mean and 358 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean I did an entire podcast episode about this. 359 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: You guys know what it's about. Um, it's really not subtle. 360 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: I always laugh when I get asked in interviews like, 361 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: so what's Amy about. I'm like, I spell it out 362 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: so clearly, like so clear what people want more information? 363 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, more do you need? I'm not giving 364 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: you her last name, so what more do you need? 365 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: But um, Amy, Actually I feel like we don't discuss 366 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: this enough. But it's a disk track, but it was 367 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: a response song and I do love me a good 368 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: response song. But like, and this isn't like she started 369 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: in it. But it's like, as the concept of a 370 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: response song, there's been some really great ones in history. UM, 371 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: my personal favorite is it wasn't God who made honckey 372 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: tonk Angels by Kitty Wells, and um this or it's 373 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: just like I was responding to a dis track where um, 374 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't describe it too much because then 375 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: it could point you in the direction of the song 376 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: that spawned this. But moral of the story is the 377 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: song had my ex boyfriend's name in it and referred 378 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: to me as something undesirable and I was like, fine, 379 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: you want to write a song put names and it. 380 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: I'll write a fucking song and put names in it. 381 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, I just feel like that's been kind of 382 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: like missed a little bit by the who were like 383 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: there is this one girl. Oh my god, I don't 384 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: even I don't even you know what yet this is 385 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: this is some t There's this one girl who commented 386 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: on the video when it came out and called me 387 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: a bully and said that like I had left all 388 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: these people in my path of destruction. And I was like, okay, 389 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: well you are quite literally on my ex boyfriend's payroll, 390 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: so sure fine, um and um she's had real big 391 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: pick me girl energy and I was like, yeah, okay. 392 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: So it was just like I no longer have a 393 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: fucking ounce of sympathy for women who are like who 394 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: work for or our friends with, or who enable an abuser, 395 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: unknown abuser who's been accused by several people and clearly 396 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: has no intentions of stopping anytime soon. Any person who's 397 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: spent any amount of time with someone like that, they 398 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: know it's not a secret. And so I just feel 399 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: no fucking sympathy for these these women for for doing that, 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: for turning a blind eye and just letting a guy 401 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: get away with it. And my um my old roommate 402 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: Cora did a TikTok on my account because she just 403 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: started talking and I was like, I need to film this, 404 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: and she was like girl defending a known abuser, and 405 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, really, no, no, way 406 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: he would never do that. No, he's always been like 407 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: so nice to me, Like he bought me and all 408 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: my friends drinks the other night. And it's like that's 409 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: exactly what these bitches sound like. And um, I have 410 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: a strong opinion about it, and I just I'm not 411 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: gonna apologize, and I would say all of this to 412 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: everybody's face. The thing about the song Amy and you know, 413 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: it's like p but wanted to this girl tried to 414 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: pull the feminism card and say I was being a 415 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: bad feminist, and I'm like, no, dude, continuing to fucking 416 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: like to pick an abusive man over your friend who 417 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: was abused is like that's the least feminist thing you 418 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: can do. And also it's like really fucking annoying when 419 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: you see people who are like so like, oh my god, 420 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: like feminist m like like I'm gonna wear the pussy 421 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: hat to the to the you know, women's march and 422 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: go with my friends. It's gonna be so fun and 423 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: like hashtag boss babes, hashtag girl boss, hashtag her, like 424 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: what is it her success? It's not your failure, and 425 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: like all these like fucking like uterist memes and ship 426 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: and they post all that, and like, if it's a 427 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: celebrity who gets me too, it's like, yeah, funck them, 428 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But if it's someone they know 429 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: that gets me too, they're just like dead as silent 430 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: might as well be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. 431 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: And I just like, I have no patience for it anymore. 432 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: You have no patience. And so I had to really 433 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: really think hard before I put out Amy, and I 434 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: thought about all this, and I was just like, yeah, 435 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: why would why would you protect somebody like that? Because 436 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: the only reason that shitty men can keep on being 437 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: shitty is for the people who allow them to be 438 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: And I just think there's a there's a special kind 439 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: of karma coming for the women who enable them and 440 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: allow them to continue hurting other women. And so those 441 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: girl's comments were so laughable and honestly, like I responded 442 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: to one thing and just said like, hey, um, it 443 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: seems like something like it seems like you don't have 444 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: the whole story, but like sure, keep defending and whatever. 445 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I tried to be as classy as I possibly could. Um, 446 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: But who wasn't classy was all my fans who responded 447 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: to her, and UM, we're like it sounds like oh, 448 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: but then um, somebody commented something that really really stuck 449 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: with me and actually gave me a little tiny bit 450 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: more empathy for the situation. But they said that UM 451 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: abusers and narcissists are just as good at um like 452 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: gaslighting their character witnesses as they are their victims. So 453 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: you have this group of people and it's like, you know, 454 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: narcissists don't just manipulate there like their partner or their 455 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: exes or whatnot. They manipulate everybody around them. And you know, 456 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: clearly narcissists have a strong poll. That's like why they 457 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: get to funk you up the way they do. It's 458 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: because they seem so great at first. And now I 459 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: recognize that behavior. And you know, I ran into it 460 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: again recently, um, just in like a friendship situation, and 461 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, big old red flag, We're 462 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: not going to do that again. And UM, if I 463 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: ever you know, saw somebody and actually I have, if 464 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: I I saw somebody treating my friend like that, and 465 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, homely, you can't, you can't do that, 466 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: like and I just refused to be somebody who enables 467 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: and if one of my friends tells me that a 468 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: man hurt her, I'm like, funk that guy, and I 469 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: will literally like, I mean, yeah, there's this one guy 470 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: who I had, like I had asked for my number 471 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: or something and end up meeting his ex girlfriend. Nothing 472 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: ever happened with him, but she told me this story 473 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: about him, and I was like, holy fucking ship, this 474 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: guy is an absolute asshole, and so I like blocked 475 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: his number and I saw him in public and I 476 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: was like, don't talk to me, like, and that's how 477 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: you should handle things like that, right, That's what I think. Anyways, 478 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: thank you for coming to my TED talk in my podcast. 479 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: But that's a that's a little extra T I suppose 480 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: behind amy, but less so than T. I'd like you too. 481 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: Just think about that, and you know, be careful who 482 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: you're enabling and if you are, and maybe look around 483 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: and realize that you can be you can be the 484 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: victim of a narcissist and not be dating them. And um, 485 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: if you have a bad feeling about somebody, you should 486 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: probably listen to it because you're probably like you're your 487 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: your gut does that to protect you? And I think 488 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest challenge we have is to distinguish 489 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: anxiety from intuition. But if you get that feeling in 490 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: your stomach about somebody, like, take it from me. I 491 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: have almost always been right, and by almost always, I 492 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: mean like I think always up until now and then 493 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: people like say the self fulfilling prophecy thing, that's not true. 494 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: A self fulfilling prophecy is not real. That is your 495 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: intuition being so strong that you see something coming and 496 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: you're just trying to get out of the way. Maybe 497 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: there's a self fulfilling prosphecy if you are like I'm 498 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: never going to be successful. But like in situations like that, 499 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: don't don't say that to yourself. Just listen to yourself. 500 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: That's why that's a big cliche. It's like, trust your instincts, 501 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: listen to yourself. Yeah, do it, do it, and take 502 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: a look around and see who needs to be you know, 503 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: needed from your life. So anyway, it's all of that 504 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: being said, Thank you guys so much for listening to 505 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: the EP. I'm so happy it's out in the world. 506 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I had such a great fucking weekend and it's just 507 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: felt so good to get it out there. And um, 508 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: I love you all so much. Thank you for making 509 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: it so special. It feels so good to release the 510 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: project again. It's my favorite thing to do. I love 511 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: releasing singles, but even more than that, I love telling 512 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: a longer story and I got to do that. And 513 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: I got here by accident. Oh and one last thing 514 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: that I need to share with any like everybody. And 515 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if he listens to the podcast, but 516 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: I have a fan named Steve, and Steve I met 517 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: him after my EP released show and he came here 518 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: with his mom and he was disabled, so I just 519 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: didn't want to make him wait. So I was like, 520 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: all right, I'll come hang out with you guys. Everybody 521 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: else can wait, they'll be fine. And so I went 522 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: sat on the couches and sweetest, sweetest guy and his 523 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: mom was such a badass, and I just like immediately 524 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: loved them. But they were telling me the story about 525 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: how Steve it bought tickets to this show thinking it 526 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: was virtual on him and his mom were going to go. 527 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: So he buys tickets. He goes and shows his mom 528 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, mom, I bought these tickets and 529 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: she was like, oh, baby, those are those are for 530 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: in person? Like, that's not that's not a virtual show, 531 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: and he was like, oh ship. And then she was like, 532 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: but what if we win? And he's like, but what 533 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: if we win? So they flew all the way to 534 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: Nashville from Seattle for my release weekend and they ended 535 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 1: up um coming to the release show and then they 536 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: had front row at the Opry. So I gave him 537 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: a shot from the Opry stage and told this story 538 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: because I thought it was so funny because he literally 539 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: got to the Eye got here by accident, really show 540 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: by accident. He literally got here by accident, and I 541 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: just it was just hilarious. But I really hope they 542 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: had a good time. They seemed like they did. It 543 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: was so cute as Mom was telling me how they 544 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: came to Nashural first twenty first birthday and like she 545 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: just seems so down for an adventure and I just 546 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: can't imagine a better mom. Like they just seemed like 547 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: such a like such a little power duo, like running 548 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: around the country going to concerts on a whim and 549 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: it just totally made me smile. So shout out to 550 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: see you if you listen to my podcast. You are 551 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: so sweet and made me smile so much this weekend. 552 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for listening. I really 553 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: appreciate it. There's a link to check out the EP 554 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: in my in the description if you haven't already. And 555 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: I love you all so much. Thank you, thank you, 556 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: thank you, and I will see you next week. I'm 557 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: Kailie Shore and this is too much to say asking 558 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: question soon turn it out to you.