1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Remember now, that's it's how they choose call in now 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: eight hundred five eight five one five one. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Yes, you know on Friday we opened up the phone 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: lines because it is the people's donkey. We allow y'all 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: to call in and give somebody the credit they deserve 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: for being stupid. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: So, good morning, good morning, This is easy, lee. Who 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you want to get the biggest? He had to my 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: child's father? Okay, what's his name? You gotta say a name. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: Donkey, No, you gotta say his name. 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: What's his name? His name is? Okay? What did he do? 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: He hits me? 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 1: Oh? This is criminal? Okay? When when did he hit you? Man? 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: A week ago? So why are you on the phone 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: with the breakfast club and not the police? Why are 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: you protecting him? 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: Already already handled it? 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh so he got locked up in all that? 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: No, not locked up, but I handled baby? 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean she probably guy? Ass? What? So 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: you did a crime for a crime. 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: I did not? 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Okay? Didn't telling yourself? Good girl? Okay? Anything else? Like? 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: So what I understand? You want to you know, this 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: is donkey today and you want to give somebody. 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: He'm a donkey. 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: Besides, I'm a good woman, and he's mad because I 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: don't want him. And he's just a donkey because he 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: he just gets. 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Instance and mad and he takes it out on the child, 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: takes it out on not seeing her, I mean not 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: seeing not being there for the baby because you don't 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: want to be with him. 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: No, no, nothing with the baby. 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: So he's a good father, absolutely, Okay, Okay, that's the 37 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: most important thing. And he is and he shouldn't and 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: he shouldn't be putting his hands on you. 39 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is that he's there for 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: the child. 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely. But still he shouldn't be putting his hands on me. 42 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: That is very true. 43 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, what dog did they? 44 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Good morning? 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 4: Tell the Man of God. 46 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: That's hilarious. 47 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: What's up girl, Yes, ma'am. 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: He protect yourself at all times. Man, alrighty, okay, good morning. 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Who's this is justin Indianapolis? Piece justin who you want 50 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: to get the biggest se hort too. 51 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 4: I want to give the state of Florida for making 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: it open. Carrie. 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Man, It's like you say. 54 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: These people come from there. 55 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: And it's gonna be so many duff that's coming. 56 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: From there now. Yeah, I saw that. It begins. It 57 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: begins is the next third. There was a yesterday, it 58 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: already began. 59 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: It was a dude outside of Walmart went up to 60 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: the police and asked him, Kenny carry his gun? 61 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: They said yeah, and he brought out an assault rifle. 62 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 1: Like what I wonder about that? Though? 63 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Man, I wonder if that keeps things more balanced. If 64 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: everybody know, everybody packing, everybody will be a little bit 65 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: more easy, at least when it comes to mass shootings. 66 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: People might be like, you know what, yeah, let me 67 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: let me slow down. 68 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 5: But what about emotions, Like the people are they emostly 69 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 5: prepared and ready for. 70 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: That at twenty one? Put your emotions in shack once again. 71 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: It's Florida. 72 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: It is Florida. 73 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I don't know how that impact things. 74 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not the only open carry state in 75 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: the South, so. 76 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: They they it's from wacky people down there. 77 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: I know that. Yeah, Georgia's open carry. Uh. I think 78 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina might be too. I'm not sure. 79 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm all for it. 80 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Some states like, man, I'm. 81 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: Looking at it now, Alabama, Augansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, 82 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. 83 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Are all open carry states. Man, that's scary. 84 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: Maybe we say it's scary, but I mean it's been 85 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: open carrying these other states for a long time. So 86 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: good morning, Who's but it is Florida that's the problem. 87 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, who's this? 88 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: Good morning? North Carolina? How are you peace? 89 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Spicy? Why they call you spicy because you musty damn sometimes? 90 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: But that's another story. 91 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you to go natural. 92 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: No, I don'm going natural. I'm noting you ain't that 93 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: must Okay. 94 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe. 95 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: I respect the honesty, though I respect the honesty. 96 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: Now I'm because I can't. I can't turn it up 97 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: real quick. 98 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: Okay, who do you want to get the biggest he 99 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: had to I'm giving the biggest. 100 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Heah to my supervisor. I cannot say, well, I work. 101 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: I worked for the United States government. But that's all 102 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 103 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, what did he do or she do? 104 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: Well, we're working in a building that has no air 105 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: conditioning or anything. 106 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Must day. 107 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: That's a good one. That was a good one. They 108 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 3: got the usual stands everywhere, and it actually like you know, 109 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: we're not just melting, but yeah, we're here. 110 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Why they don't want to turn their conditioning. 111 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Because we're in the building and it's all both down 112 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: and they can't afford to get a new work because 113 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: that's not a priority. So yeah, we just worked to 114 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: do it. 115 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 116 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: Now, I would tell y'all to protests and everybody coming 117 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: in and be like you and not wear the order, 118 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: set the government down and. 119 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: A few we don't even know what's going to happen, 120 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: so we ain't sthes. We're just glad to have our job. 121 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Damn man. 122 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: I don't like them conditions though, just because you shouldn't 123 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: just be happy to have a job, like you know, 124 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: you're still a human being at the end of the day, 125 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: providing the service for people. They should be providing the 126 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: service for y'all by having their. 127 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Condition Yeah they should. 128 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: You know, what is it? 129 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: An air conditioning? 130 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: This time around, it'll be heap in the winter time. 131 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: And that's just how it goes in government. 132 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: But also too damn you know. You know you said 133 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: you didn't want to say the name. You don't want 134 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: to say where you work, but sometimes public shame works. 135 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you to do that here but I 136 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: think sometimes you got to. 137 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I work on a military day. 138 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 4: And we make it happen. 139 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes you got to put people 140 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: on a blast and make change happen. But I understand 141 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 2: you can't right now. 142 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Because we don't know if we're going to have a 143 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: job come the first of October. 144 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: Can't say yet, Lord, have mercy. 145 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: I'll call you back and I hope if we have 146 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: a job, and I'll let you know. 147 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, and you call him good morning. Who's this key? Yeah? 148 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: P's key? Who you want to get the biggest? He 149 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: hard too. 150 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 4: A lot of parents that are bringing their children to 151 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: mental health therapy as as toddlers two years old. I'm 152 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: treating you for the year old because the parents have 153 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: no control. 154 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: So what do you think of good age to take 155 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: your child to therapy? 156 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: Eight Brain is development to suscipher for behavior and choices 157 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: and parents choices. 158 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Where you calling from, 159 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm from, but I live in the pot now, Well listen, 160 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: you know. 161 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: On Saturday, October eleventh, I do my fifth annual Mental 162 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: Wealth Expot, which is a day of mental health education 163 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: and healing in Newark, New Jersey at the Joel and 164 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: Diane Bloom Wellness and Event Center. So you know, we 165 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: got a whole day of panels like doctor Alfre Breeland 166 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: Noble will be there, Debbie Brown, Jason Wilson, doctor j Barnett, 167 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: doctor Rita Walker, Elliott, Connie Deontay Wilder is going to 168 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: be there at Queen of four, a whole host of 169 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: people and it's a free event, so you should pull up. 170 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: I will be there. 171 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: Listen. You know we do this every Friday. It's the 172 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: people's donkey. You can call us one one hundred and 173 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: five A five one five one all. You can go 174 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio app and go to the talkback button 175 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: and leave a comment. 176 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: So thank y'all for calling. Man. We are on this 177 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: chat boy, y'all a young boy. It's so funny. You 178 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: can know. 179 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: You can follow us on twitch At Breakfast Club am 180 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: somebody said, mad clips a word the unks getting with 181 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: the program with this one. 182 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I like it and a lot of. 183 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: People are excited about ninety six point one to beat 184 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: jingle Ball. Somebody said, spinner eight s says, and be 185 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 2: ready to blow the whistle Boss b W Breakfast Club 186 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: somebody said, what's the definition. He said, what's the definition 187 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: of real hip hop? Asking for my grandfather money Motivated 188 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: says shout out to y'all for even being open to this. 189 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: Somebody said, why you old heads don't read the chat. 190 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm reading it right now, Pool ten forty okay. And 191 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: somebody said, nobody trying to see Charlemagne crumping. It's not crumping. 192 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: It's called crunk, okay. And Little John is the king 193 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: of it, and he will be performing at ninety six 194 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: point one jingle Ball in Atlanta. Okay, I think I 195 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: gotta go to that show shot because it's one thing 196 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: Little John and Atlanta gonna be a different experience. I 197 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: know y'all thinking about like the Sierra Goodies and the 198 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: Ushery Yeah, and the Love and Friends. I'm thinking about 199 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: throwing them up with path to Choy. I'm thinking about 200 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: get crunkd with ba Haagen, Okay. I'm thinking about never 201 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: ever with Trailville. I'm thinking about damn with the young Blood. 202 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. 203 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 204 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: Yes, it's better be there because you know how you getting. 205 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: He's gonna don't tell me what I'm gonna do, depend 206 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: on the moon. 207 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: That is true. 208 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: He's gonna get all excited and they're gonna get tired. 209 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: He's gonna taking that. I don't know what. I don't 210 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: know what moving. I'm gonna wake up in one I 211 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: might wake up feeling anxious. Somebody somebody said, how about 212 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: them giants? You suck something too? All right? Somebody said, 213 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: hold on, I saw a funny one. Somebody said, man, 214 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: just so fine. 215 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: Chris Brown is a clown for fumbling that I would 216 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: never want to lose. Just yeah, just so fine, son, 217 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: Chris Brown a clown. Ain't no way, I'm letting big go. 218 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That's that's that's good people brought into 219 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: your life. What nothing? 220 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: Somebody said, y'all can't tell me Charlamagne antka all right? Anyway, 221 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: when we come back that one right there that was dead, 222 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 5: you're about to mix up up, about to make it, okay, 223 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 5: make some I don't make some up, mix something up. 224 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 5: When we come back to val Ellis and Crystal has 225 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: Let will be joining us. You know them from Sisters 226 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: Tyler Perry's Sisters season nine. 227 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: It's a team of season four. What you said, make 228 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: some up? No, I don't want to say what see 229 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: I know what I do it. 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