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Speaker 1: Inside Scoop time with that FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,

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Speaker 1: good to see you, and I cracked open the notes

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Speaker 1: column from the weekend covering the Dodgers and the Padres.

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Speaker 2: I'll hand it.

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Speaker 1: Over to you for your favorite note that you put

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Speaker 1: in there, or something that people should definitely know, and

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Speaker 1: then it will encourage them to read the rest in

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Speaker 1: the Athletic.

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Speaker 3: The column is basically a collection of notes mostly about

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Speaker 3: the new players on each team. There's a little bit

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Speaker 3: about Taioscar Hernandez and the Dodgers outfield situation, but it's

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Speaker 3: mostly that the guys who are new players on both teams,

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Speaker 3: and of course the Padres have a number of new players.

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Speaker 3: My favorite note in there was the difference that Loriano

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Speaker 3: and Ryan O'Hearn took, or the different approaches they took

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Speaker 3: in deciding whether to travel with the Orioles before the deadline.

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Speaker 3: Lorianno went to Chicago with the team. This was the

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Speaker 3: day before the deadline. The night before deciding or thinking

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Speaker 3: in his head, Hey, if I'm going to Chicago and

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Speaker 3: I get traded to either coast, I'm good well, O'Hearn

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Speaker 3: decided to stay back in Baltimore. Now he thought maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm getting traded to Boston Milwaukee. He didn't think he

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Speaker 3: would be traded to the West Coast, and of course

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Speaker 3: what happens, they both end up with the Padres and Loriano.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this on the broadcast Saturday, AJ and I.

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Speaker 3: Loreano's comment to AJ Preller was, you're nuts for doing

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Speaker 3: both guys, getting both guys, and I thought that was

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Speaker 3: a pretty bold thing for someone to say after just

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Speaker 3: getting traded over to a new team.

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Speaker 4: Ken. We were both in San Diego this past weekend,

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Speaker 4: like you said, and we got to talk to Preller.

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Speaker 4: My takeaway from Preller is he just wants to win.

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Speaker 4: He just wants to win. He and we talked you

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Speaker 4: were there, We talked prospects, we talked pitching, we talked

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Speaker 4: everything right, we talked foul territory, we talked Ken Rosenthal,

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Speaker 4: we talked at all. To me, I like you more

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Speaker 4: after talking to him the first time I've ever met him,

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Speaker 4: and after he said what he said, Yeah, I want

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Speaker 4: to win. I want to get this done. San Diego

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Speaker 4: has never won. Prospects or prospects, I mean kind of

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Speaker 4: all the stuff we've talked about. He's like, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: can get twenty more prospects at the draft. I can

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Speaker 4: get more guys. I mean, he just wants to win

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Speaker 4: and he's a genius, and I don't know that that

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Speaker 4: guy sleeps.

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Speaker 3: Ever, well, that's a great point. We all wonder whether

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Speaker 3: aj Preller sleeps. And to me, what he has done

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Speaker 3: in recent years. Now you can look into the future

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Speaker 3: and say some of those contracts are going to haunt them.

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Speaker 3: That's probably true. But he has taken advantage of an

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Speaker 3: industry that is pretty conservative, of rival general managers and

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Speaker 3: heads of baseball operations who are reluctant to trade prospects,

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Speaker 3: who operate in a cautious manner, and his operation or

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Speaker 3: opposite of everybody else. Now, Dave Dombrowski's like that to

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Speaker 3: no one is as extreme as aj Preller, and he

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Speaker 3: it served him well. This team is right now as

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Speaker 3: is several years now, not just one or two, but

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Speaker 3: away young players. And yet, as you said, Ajay, he

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Speaker 3: has a way of replenishing his system, and that's because

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Speaker 3: continually come up with new players and this is a tribute,

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Speaker 3: as he said to us, to their scouting and player development,

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Speaker 3: And does he have that city in an electric kind

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Speaker 5: Record, all right, So maybe you already hit it by

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Speaker 5: what you just said. But you talked about fair territory

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I do or I don't, which side

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Speaker 5: that's not as much of a rivalry as people think.

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Speaker 5: Because the Red Sox Yankees, their rivalry is heated on

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of Yankees and Red Sox fans took

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Speaker 3: And even though they knocked out the Dodgers in twenty two,

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Speaker 3: they have not won the World Series, and they still

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Speaker 3: want to kind of knock off the Dodgers, slay the dragon,

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Speaker 4: Hey, Ken, So the Dodgers were the other team playing

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Speaker 4: So what do they do with Taylor? Do they leave

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Speaker 3: Good question? First off, they should not move Mooki to

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Speaker 3: If you play him and right, you're gonna have guys

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Speaker 3: there is some school of thought where their best defensive

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Speaker 3: once these players come back, yes, it gives them a

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Speaker 3: And sure, Michael CONFORDO, because of all this, because of

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Speaker 1: Okay, KP, this is your first arena club experience. We're

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Speaker 2: See what is in the pack.

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Speaker 1: There it is the Grail, which is the best card

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Speaker 2: See how we do.

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Speaker 1: We have ourselves a really cool graphic and then a

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Speaker 1: show Heo Tani fifty to fifty card from last year.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Should we sell it

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Speaker 3: You should give it to me, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Keep good answer, fine, I will give it to you.

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Speaker 1: Use the code foul ful to get yourself twenty percent

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Speaker 5: These two teams are gonna, most likely if one of

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Speaker 5: Right now, the Phillies are in a good position, but

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Speaker 3: Eric If we put odds on it and ask the question,

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Speaker 3: are the Phillies chances of winning the World Series better

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Speaker 3: can they win the World Series without Zach Wheeler? I

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Speaker 3: But given that, and given that their bullpen is much

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Speaker 4: Time alive Ken, that's what that's right.

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Speaker 6: You don't even flinch, Aj.

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Speaker 3: It was a few feet away, Honestly it was. And

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Speaker 1: Ken hypothetical scenario, would you take a baseball to the body,

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying, I'm in the middle of a tweet.

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Speaker 3: Done it when I had the broken finger. I think

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Speaker 3: this was in twenty thirteen. It was the final broadcast

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Speaker 3: The Pirates doctor is stitching me up and it hurts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's hurting pretty good. But Justin Morneau, Canadian

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Speaker 3: Aj So I'm sitting there basically wanting to cry like

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good, thank god, thank god it But here's

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Speaker 4: here's what I really want to know. Who did the

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Speaker 4: did the ball almost hit? Okay, tell the whole story.

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Speaker 3: I will tell the whole story. This is the jash

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Speaker 3: have hit your Novak Djokovic. He's sitting right there. You

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Speaker 3: can't really see him. He's sitting right there. It might

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Speaker 3: really because the screen was there.

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Speaker 4: Again, but he's tall. Ken, That's why he's tall. He's tall.

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Speaker 2: Wait, whoa you guys married the lead?

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Speaker 4: Ken was supposed to tell that Ken married the lead?

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Speaker 1: S That's that's real news. I haven't seen that. Is

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Speaker 5: I don't know?

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Speaker 4: Is now? Yeah? He said, if you watch the replay,

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Speaker 1: Right, But one day there there is a documentary how

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that part.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a notable name, and it's it's not

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Speaker 4: Ken, think about this. If that ball hits Djokovic, then

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Speaker 4: But like, if you do watch the replay, you can

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask because some people saw

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Speaker 2: It was cool. It was worth a few minutes, and

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Speaker 3: I told you. In that situation. It just wasn't that close.

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Speaker 3: But as I said, again, making myself look bad there

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Speaker 4: It's not smart, Ken, Ken, what's the worst camera well

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Speaker 3: Well, from a site perspective or just from getting into.

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Speaker 4: It, just just the worst. Like there's if someone asked

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Speaker 3: The Mets and Padres City Field and Peco Park they

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Speaker 3: out I didn't have a concussion, but and that was

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Speaker 4: Ye, Ken trying to climb over the wall and his

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Speaker 6: Halt me. I can't get over the wall.

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Speaker 2: I could sad he was waiting, he was waiting for it.

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Speaker 2: Well, well you're off the hot seat.

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Speaker 1: This was good Ken, Thank you, and we're glad you're

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Speaker 6: I titled to say, hey, ball talk for a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: First, So what do you think about the Blue Jays

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Speaker 8: that was coming back from, which a lot of times

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Speaker 8: puts you in bad habits with your swing, and when

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Speaker 8: you're a good player like him, it just takes a

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Speaker 8: minute to refine it once it clicks for you. I mean,

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Speaker 8: he's going off. So he's playing great. Blue Jays are

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Speaker 8: playing great. They're a fun team. The city's behind him,

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Speaker 8: the country is behind him. It's right, it's rocking in

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Speaker 8: the Rogers Center, and it's going to be exciting as

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Speaker 8: the fall gets here.

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Speaker 4: Can they do it?

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Speaker 6: Can they do that?

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Speaker 4: That's I think everyone looks at it and says, can

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Speaker 4: the Are the blue Jays one for real? Because a

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Speaker 4: lot of people don't know a lot about They don't

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Speaker 4: flat and they know they bow a little bit, but

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Speaker 4: they don't know about the rest of the guys. So

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Speaker 4: can the Blue Jays go ninety two ninety three and

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Speaker 4: win the whole thing?

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Speaker 8: They definitely can they do? I mean, I really seriously

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Speaker 8: did they Can? They just they're gonna need a couple

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Speaker 8: guys in the bullpen. This stuff up they're starting pitching

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Speaker 8: is phenomenal, maybe the best in the league now that

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Speaker 8: they got Beaver back looking like benached Beaver and some

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Speaker 8: guys in the bullpen, like like a Louis Arland. Hafey's

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Speaker 8: kind of been He's had some really good stretches and

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Speaker 8: then a couple of games that haven't haven't miss so good.

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Speaker 8: And if he could just bottle those those good stretches

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Speaker 8: and be a shutdown closer that he is a pair

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Speaker 8: with the guy like Louis Arland and some guys that

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Speaker 8: can come in and.

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Speaker 6: Make you look silly. I think they really do have

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Speaker 6: a chance, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, you're just off the field. The rhetoric right now

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Speaker 5: is any team right now that makes it to the

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Speaker 5: playoffs can't win the World Series without hitting the dingers.

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Speaker 5: But then when the team doesn't win the World Series

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Speaker 5: because they're striking out so much and they're not hitting

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Speaker 5: and they're only hitting dingers, then it's like, well they

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Speaker 5: strike out too much. Do you believe in this game

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Speaker 5: right now? Because neither me or AJ have played in

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Speaker 5: the last five years? You can win the World Series

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Speaker 5: without hitting dingers?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Kansas City did it in twenty fifteen. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't seem like forever ago though, you know, I

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Speaker 6: forget that it's twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: But you know, when someone someone doesn't win the World

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Speaker 8: Series is because something didn't go as good as the

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Speaker 8: other teams. They either didn't score enough runs, they didn't

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Speaker 8: pitch as well, they didn't put as many balls in play.

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Speaker 8: So anyone that doesn't win, obviously something didn't happen to

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Speaker 8: keep them from winning. So you're always pulling fingers. You

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Speaker 8: can always say things, but it's sports, you know, it's

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Speaker 8: you gotta do. You gotta do everything right at the

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Speaker 8: right time if you want to win a championship. And

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Speaker 8: that's so different than any than basketball. All we didn't

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Speaker 8: make enough threes, well, yeah, because other team made more.

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Speaker 8: And it's just it's just part of it. And people

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Speaker 8: just like to complain.

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Speaker 4: And now that you're a media member, you'll get used

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Speaker 4: to complaining because you have the double wam. You played

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Speaker 4: baseball and your media members, so you've created complaining. Both

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Speaker 4: of those are great jobs at complain. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 4: gonna teach you some you don't score enough runs and

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Speaker 4: the other team scores more, you lose, like every time,

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Speaker 4: So just keep that in mind.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just keep that of mine. Yep, going forward.

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Speaker 4: That if you don't score every runs, you usually don't.

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Speaker 6: Win at least at least ninety games. Score enough.

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Speaker 2: That's media one, O one.

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Speaker 1: What about the Phillies, So you know, we just saw

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Speaker 1: the loss of Zach Wheeler for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: which is really tough with them. They have a great

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Speaker 1: rotation anyway, but what do you think about their chances?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's that that's just a that's a

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Speaker 8: real punch in the gut just because as good as

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Speaker 8: he's been, he's just the steady Eddie. Especially in the playoffs,

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Speaker 8: you just know what you're gonna get when Wheeler goes

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Speaker 8: out there, and it's he's he's the guy. And really,

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Speaker 8: there's nobody if I'm if I got a playoff game

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Speaker 8: I need to win, there's nobody I would rather have

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Speaker 8: out there than Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 6: And so that's you know, that's that's that sucks.

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Speaker 8: A guy like that goes down, and but they have

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Speaker 8: the guys that that can that can step in and

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Speaker 8: pick them up.

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Speaker 6: Sanc she's having an incredible year.

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Speaker 8: Uh Nola's bad getting healthy, and you know you got

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Speaker 8: you got Ranger who's who's also been really studying the postseason.

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Speaker 8: So you got guys that can that just need to

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Speaker 8: step up and take over that role, and they have

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Speaker 8: the guys that can do it. And then you got

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Speaker 8: a banging offense and and now you got Duran coming

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Speaker 8: in with the spy entrance, and so you don't want

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Speaker 8: to get to the ninth when being down and all.

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Speaker 4: Right, so Blue Jays Phillies World Series, who are you rooting for?

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Speaker 4: That'd be electric, that would be like, that would be amazing.

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Speaker 4: The Electric three right when they had the last one. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was here a home run in that series. It

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Speaker 4: worked out, it'd be good.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't I wouldn't have a rooting interest, but I'm

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Speaker 6: such a liar. Well, Philly did boom me more than.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, I still have friends that I talked

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Speaker 8: to daily on both teams, and that would be the

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Speaker 8: see and probably get ticke us for easily those games.

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Speaker 6: So that's true. I would enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the motivating pre aim speech from Manfred

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago?

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Speaker 8: I heard I was getting filled in a game. I

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Speaker 8: was getting filled in a little bit last night about it, yekes.

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Speaker 8: I really wish, I really wish I could have hung

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Speaker 8: on another year and just just to be a part

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Speaker 8: of that, just to have heard that.

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Speaker 2: But historic.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the commissioner coming in for

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Speaker 1: a conversation like that before a game during the season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I know, I know Rob trying to

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Speaker 8: trying to to mend the bridges of player relations and

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Speaker 8: trying to get in better graces with some of the players.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know if I mean a lot of

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Speaker 8: especially an older team like Philly like so those guys

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Speaker 8: are so routine oriented. I don't know if pregame is

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Speaker 8: the best time to do it, but you know what

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Speaker 8: else are you gonna be?

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Speaker 6: Is everybody gonna be together? So I get it in

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Speaker 6: that sense.

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Speaker 1: Did he do though, or any years that you were playing,

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Speaker 1: he would come pregame from one meeting yep?

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Speaker 2: And how did it go?

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Speaker 6: Uh? Not as bad as that?

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Speaker 1: What was he was he saying, hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: make the relationship better or was he getting into topics

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Speaker 1: where guys were like, okay, this is you know, collective

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Speaker 1: bargaining right before we're gonna play a game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that that's how it started. Just you know, hey, guys,

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Speaker 8: I'm here to you know, we gotta this. Last CBA

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Speaker 8: didn't go well. I want it to be better. I

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Speaker 8: want better relationship with the players, which I agree with it,

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Speaker 8: you know, needs to be better. Sure, now I think

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Speaker 8: they're closer to the CBA, so there might be more

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Speaker 8: conversation of this is what we want and this is

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Speaker 8: why we think it's important for our game, and this

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Speaker 8: is what the ownership wants and so we're gonna this

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Speaker 8: is what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: And certain teams you can say that too.

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia Phillies are not that team, and I think they

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Speaker 8: made it known that we this is We're gonna stand

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Speaker 8: by what we want and you're not gonna come in

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Speaker 8: here and say anything different to us in our clubhouse,

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Speaker 8: especially