1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: All right, hi guys, and welcome back to another new 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: episode of Couch Talks. My name is Kat and I'm 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: the host here You Need Therapy, and I'm excited that 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: you guys tuned in. I always want to say tuned in. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: You're not tuning in, you're streaming tuning in. It sounds 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: better anyway, We're not going to go down that road today. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: For those of you that are new, Couch Talks is 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: the special Q and a episode of You Need Therapy 9 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: where I answer questions that you guys send into me 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: at Catherine at you Need Therapy Podcast dot com. So 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: if you have a question, feedback, a statement, just something 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: you want me to talk about, send it over there. 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: You can also follow me on Instagram at Cat dot 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: de fata and for just the podcast stuff at You 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Need Therapy Podcast. Also, we have a website with some 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: cute merch if you want to check that out to 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: You Need Therapy Podcast dot com. Man. Uh, it is 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a rainy day, very rainy day, which makes me want 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: to curl up on my couch and watch continuous episodes 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: of A Million Little Things. If you guys have not 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: watched that show, I mean it is the perfect Rainy 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Day Show because I cry every episode. I don't know 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: why I feel like I need to cry when it's rainy, 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: but I do. Anyway, I just wanted to guys to 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: know what the weather was today. I guess, uh, not 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: really the point of what we're gonna be talking about. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: I have two questions and two things I want remind 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: you guys. One, this is not therapy. This is just 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: a therapist who was talking about things and answering questions 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: that you guys sent to me. But this is not therapy, 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: and so I do encourage you, guys to if that 32 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: is a thing that's available to you and you have 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: the resources for that, to go and seek that out. 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Can't really be a virtual podcast therapist. It's not a thing. 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: It would be kind of dangerous. Also, I always keep 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: the questions anonymous, just because I think that it's for 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: the best, so I don't say who writes these. And 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. We're gonna get into the 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: questions we got to today and they're too too straight 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: from my inbox, though I would get back to that, 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: And here they are. Here's the first one. First off, 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: your podcast is a lifesaver. I love every topic you present, 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: and I want to be your friend. I probably would 44 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: want to be your friend to just need to say that, Okay, 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: I'll jump right in. I'm struggling with feeling like I'm 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: a halfway Christian. I want so badly to be the 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: perfect Christian, but I know that I am consciously choosing 48 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: to sin or disobey God every day. Backstory, I'm living 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend of almost three years, and while yes, 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: this is my choice, it was definitely not easy or 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: something I took lightly. I have to think that I'm 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: not the only person in this sort of situation where 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I know I'm not doing the in quotes right thing 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: in God's eyes, but I'm also not choosing to stop 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: or change my ways at this time, I feel like 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: no one in the Christian world talks about this. It 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: feels very all or nothing or perfect or nothing. I'd 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts on this touchy subject. Thanks 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: so much for always being real and sharing all your knowledge. 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: So I like this question, and and you guys know 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I am a Christian as well. I think that faith 62 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and religion and spirituality are very personal things, so I 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: do not like to put any of my beliefs on 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: any of y'all. I have my beliefs in they guide 65 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: me in my life. That doesn't mean that you have 66 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: to live by that at all at all. But I 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: am going to still try to answer this and and 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: to just talk about this because it's a big one. 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: I think you're right. You're definitely not the only person 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: who feels this way. I think a lot of people 71 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: feel this, but not as many people talk about it. 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: And again, when it comes to faith communities, some of 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: them can be pretty judging. And in a world where 74 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm trying my best to live outside of the black 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: and white right or wrong area, it seems to be 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: laid in with very much good versus bad. I think 77 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: you're really right on the target with that. Faith. Religion, spirituality, 78 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: like I said, are just so deeply personal in my eyes, 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: and it's never going to be my job, nor do 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: I want it to be my job to tell or 81 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: decide if someone is doing something right around good or bad. 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: Besides the fact that it's a personal thing and like 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: that's not my place and I don't want that job. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: There are way too many factors that come into play 85 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: around living with a partner that I think are there 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: other than what has been the main issue in my 87 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: opinion in the past or in my life. I think 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this have to has to do with 89 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: sex and living together, which this is an assumption on 90 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: my part. I'm just going to put that out there. 91 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm totally making an assumption of the world based on 92 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: my experiences. But the funny thing is when it comes 93 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: to like that is not living together doesn't mean couples 94 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: aren't sleeping together, and living together doesn't mean that they are. 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I just think that's very interesting to me that just 96 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: because somebody's doing something, then we're making an assumption, or 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: not doing something, then we're gonna make an assumption on 98 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: top of that of something else when like we don't 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: really know. Also none of our business, and part of 100 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: me wants to say, who freaking cares? But also that's 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: not the professional thing to say or helpful when I 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: talk about this. Maybe it is helpful to throw that 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: out there, that like, really, why do we care so 104 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: much about what other people are thinking and believing about us? 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: I think to this question, it's really in words struggle 106 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: of like I'm struggling because I think this is wrong. 107 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: I would really wonder if like, do you think this 108 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: is wrong based on what you believe about what you're doing, 109 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: or is it what you have been taught to believe, 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: or has is it around what other people believe? You know. 111 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a client somewhat recently, 112 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: and we weren't talking about faith. We're talking about something else, 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: but basically about how she knows one thing to be true, 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: but because society as a whole thinks something else, she 115 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: lives out of what society thinks versus what she thinks, 116 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: which is so frustrating, so frustrating, And so this might 117 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: be another experience of something like that. And going back 118 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: to what I was saying, is there are so many 119 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: reasons that living together is a good idea, and there's 120 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: so many reasons and factors that would say it isn't 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: a good idea based on an individual couples needs, desires, lifestyles, finances, health, 122 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: et cetera. Like so many things, we can't boil this 123 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: down to well, we can, but I would encourage us 124 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: not to boil this down to a simple what the 125 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: Bible says this or that. Again, I try not to 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: put too much of my stuff, all my feelings are 127 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: coming out on this, so I just want you to 128 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: take them all with a grain AsSalt. The Bible was 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: written a really long time ago, and I still, as 130 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: a Christian thing is a very valid book and and 131 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I respect it so much. But the way we live 132 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: now is different. The world is different, And it's totally 133 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: okay if you do want to live in a world 134 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: where you're boil it down to the Bible says. But 135 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: what I guess I'm just saying is you don't have to. 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm offering you the ability to not have to do that. 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: What would be really interesting for the person who wrote this, 138 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: or anybody who's struggling with this to look into and 139 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: dive into, is what about living up to the societal 140 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Christian standards is important to you? What keeps you pulled 141 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: towards thinking X y Z is right and x y 142 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Z is wrong? What are your fears and what happened 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: if those fears came true? And when it comes down 144 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: to it, faith really can be scary because it is 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: such an unknown thing. It's eight because we're choosing to 146 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: believe that we don't have the answers. Having strong faith 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: means that we admit that we do not know. And 148 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: if we don't have all the answers and we don't know, 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: we can't live in a black and white world or 150 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a right and wrong world. We can really only live 151 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: in the world that feels the most right and true 152 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: based on us, our stuff, and what we are choosing 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: to believe, what we want to take, and what we 154 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: want to leave. So what I'm really saying is like, 155 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you get to choose what makes you a good versus 156 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: bad Christian. There's no such thing as the perfect Christian. 157 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: Nobody is that. I wonder if there's another word we 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: can use of, maybe not even good versus bad Christian. 159 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't even like that. Don't cut that out because 160 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: I want you guys to hear me like transitioning the 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: fact that I don't like it. But what if there 162 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: is a different word, an authentic, like authentic Christian? You 163 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: can be an authentic Christian and not do everything perfectly 164 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: because that's not possible. I don't know. Some food for thought, alright. 165 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Second question, Hi, Catherine, I am a cure curious what 166 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts are on the idea of what doesn't kill 167 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: you makes you stronger. I've always struggled with this. It 168 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: even makes me uncomfortable. And people say that they wouldn't 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: change going through a traumatic experience because it made them stronger. 170 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Am I weak because I disagree with this? Then I 171 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: read a post that said something along the lines of 172 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: I didn't need to be strong, I needed to be 173 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: a kid. And it really resonated with me so deeply. 174 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: But if I have learned anything, it's just because something 175 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: resonates with you, it doesn't mean that it's right or healthy. 176 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious what your thoughts are on this. Oh my gosh, 177 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: whoever wrote this question, I love you so much, and honestly, 178 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to read this and I wanted to answer 179 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it because I just wanted to read your question. I 180 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: think it says so much it's and it's so so good. 181 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: And I will say I'm not a dred percent for 182 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: against this saying. But here we go back to the 183 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: idea I was just talking about. I try to stay 184 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: out of black and white thinking, and so I'm trying 185 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: to stay away from saying this is all right or 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: all wrong. I believe that the saying is allowed to 187 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: be something that you ache or leave. It can be 188 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: so damaging or hurtful to say to someone when it 189 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: comes to certain experiences in their past, and it can 190 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: be really helpful for someone to hear that to make 191 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: sense and meaning out of their experiences. Now. It is 192 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: also really easy to get hurt or offended these days 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: on the Internet because again, we have so much content 194 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: out there to digest, and it seems like everything that 195 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: is posted is meant for or at everyone, and it 196 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: is not. It is meant for whoever wants to accept 197 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: and take it. And if it's something that doesn't fit 198 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: with you, keeps grolling, keep going. You don't have to 199 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: lean into that. That is one reason that I can't 200 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: really what do I want to give advice on here. 201 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: I can't form opinions and offer them about someone else's 202 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: life to someone when I really don't know what is 203 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: going on in or around your life. If I were 204 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: to do that, my advice could be really damaging. Like 205 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: if we go back to the question above, if I 206 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: just told her what to do move out or stay there, 207 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: get over it, or whatever, I'm not taking an account 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: all of the things that are going on in her life, 209 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: what her family thinks, when her relationships with her family 210 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: are why she even moved in, why she's really questioning herself, 211 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: what her support system is like, what her faith means 212 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: to her. I mean, there's so much so I am 213 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: not going to do that, nor do I want to 214 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: do that. I can only speak for me on here 215 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: and in my life and how this phrase feels to me. 216 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: And what I would say is that there are times 217 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: when I could have heard this phrase and I would 218 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: have wanted to just punch someone in the face. And 219 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean that I wouldn't actually punch them, but the 220 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: figure of speech, you know. And there are times when 221 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: I would have said that to myself with a very 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: grateful heart, like I would have told myself that. Now. 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe it to be true all the time. 224 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that every hard thing necessarily makes us stronger. 225 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: It does bring us opportunity, but we make the choice 226 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: to grow and find the strength that we have within 227 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: ourselves and build upon it. I am a big believer, 228 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: and I've talked about this a lot, and the fact 229 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: that our value moments are things that allow us to 230 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: build the ability to climb to the mountain top parts 231 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: of our lives and feel those moments. And I do 232 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: believe that some of the worst moments bring us to 233 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: our best. I do believe that, but this is not 234 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: all or nothing, remember, and I also wish it was 235 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: different for me at at a lot of times. So 236 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: there is carefulness that is needed when talking about this 237 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: stuff because I wish that my value moments could have 238 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: been different, you know, Like, I'm super grateful for the 239 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: human I am and what I've learned through my hard times, 240 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: but very often I really wish that the road was different. 241 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: And I'm allowed to be grateful for the growth without 242 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: being grateful for the thing that made me grow or 243 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: the thing that forced me to grow, And that gets 244 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: to be true for anybody like you are allowed to 245 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: be grateful for the growth without being grateful for the 246 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: thing that forced you or allowed you to grow, you know. 247 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: And I think that that's saying isn't telling you that 248 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you have to be grateful, but it is saying, like 249 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: what I hearing in a lot of times is yeah, 250 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: I became more rooted in the power of the human 251 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: that I am through this experience, and that feels very 252 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: good to know. So I I love what you said. 253 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: I love I'm so glad that that email was so 254 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: exciting for me to get because I was like heck yeah, girl, 255 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you in this and I think it's something 256 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: that needs to be talked about. So thank you for that, 257 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: and thank you for creating a little space of a 258 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: five minute convo for us here. And with that, Couch 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Talks is a rap. I hope you guys are having 260 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the Wednesday that you need to have today, and I 261 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: am so excited to talk to you guys on Monday. 262 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard, we are in May and May 263 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: is mental Health Awareness month. So it's kind of hard 264 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: to do a mental health awareness targeted podcast on a 265 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: podcast that's all about mental health awareness, but I just 266 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: wanted to put that out there. And I have some 267 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: some things that my sleeve that I want to talk 268 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: about this month that I think will be helpful and 269 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: just fun for me to talk about. So happy Mental 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Health Awareness Month and go forth, do the things that 271 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: you need to do, don't the things that you don't 272 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: need to do, And I love you guys. Talk to 273 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: you on Monday.