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What Up is d 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.879 J e f N? Together they drink it up with 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.800 some of the biggest players in music and sports, you know, 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:53.120 I mean the most professional unprofessional podcast. This is drink 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:59.320 Chip Radar. Every day is New Year's eight, Hey sech 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.360 we hope it's I'll be this your boy in r 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.040 What Ups d J e f And this is a 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:14.360 drink Chace motherfucking podcast. Ship my back. I ain't gonna 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.680 fright you better with the hair or than me. Sprays right. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.800 Not right now, we have imagined we have a super 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:29.520 duper legend. I want to say he's the first Oakland rapper. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.279 I want to say he's the first person because because 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.080 when I when when I heard out, I found out 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.200 that he was actually from South Central first, but we 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:42.280 wanna get it into that later. But the first person. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:48.280 He's the guy who's single handedly made beat what's my 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.720 favorite word? I don't know why. Every time I say 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.520 I grabbed my collar, I don't know why. Like that, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.200 This is how much it is. The HiFi movement, everything 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:03.360 derived from this guy. He's the first. He's the on 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.840 the East Coast, especially in New York. He's the first 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.000 person that we saluted as the first pimp and rat, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:14.160 the first person that made people bow down, the first 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:19.840 person that made bitch cool. Actually, and he's a motherfucking 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.240 legend that every promote I ever speak to, I ever 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.200 talked to, they say Short is the easiest person to 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:28.040 work with because he's just coming in there. He's just 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.160 fitting pimp and let's make a noise working too short. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:36.720 Too Short. First off, let me just thank you man 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.799 for being a part of this man. You know what 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.840 I mean. We only interview on Legends. That's what we're 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.680 doing and too short. He was the first person to 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.160 make bitch famous. How did that happen? Well, you know, 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.959 like you mentioned a minute ago, I did really grow 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.560 up in the South Central Let's make a noise south. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.799 So you know, I gotta get colorful childhood. I've seen 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.000 it all, you know. So you was gang banging and 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.240 little in the set. My older brother was banging. But 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.640 you know, you never keep you real close to it. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.720 So I've been there. You know, all my cousins. We 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.400 live all over the city, you know, the hood and 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.120 real real colorful, you know, upbringing, just seeing what was 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.960 going on in the city, like l A in the 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.320 early mid seventies, like seventies. And I moved to Oakland 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.600 right after ninth grade. How was you? I was, I 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.320 was fourteen, and then you would um, you would think 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.960 of California, California, just just moving up the street. But 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.400 it's it's like it was a totally different It's probably 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.280 like a kid from New York moving the upstate or 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.280 something like the difference all moving like Philly or something like. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.280 So I get to the Bay, it's a whole different world. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.080 It's and it's like it's it's like even more colorful 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.480 and more out just out there in front of you 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.760 where you know you. It just got a little more 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.839 personal for me. I'm coming up, I'm coming to Let 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:57.160 you left South Central at fourteen, so you're like almost 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.640 almost a grown man, and didn't how you come to 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.040 the Champion because that's this is the end is like 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.560 real territorial l A. At that time. It's like, you know, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.360 even to this day, it's like from in the inner city. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.960 It's like from neighborhood, the neighborhood, the faces that you know, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.240 who's running the ship and where you're supposed to be 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.120 and not supposed to be you hit the wrong block. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.160 Now we're from in the l A. Was that I, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.800 oh my god. And when my first cousins on eighty 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:30.080 four in Hoover, so just that's just that's but that's 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:33.279 not very fucking far away. But it was like it 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.400 was like two different to travel that there to there. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.960 You got to know your motherfucking route because they're gonna 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.840 take your bike, They're gonna take something if you hit 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.599 the wrong block. So I get to Oakland and it's 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.880 not it's not really about the little packs of gangs. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.120 And it's not about blue or red. It's not about 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.480 the neighborhood so much. It was just like who's getting money, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.760 Who's who's However, so, now how far the Oakland was 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.159 Fillmore Street, because that's that's the first thing I heard 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:02.400 about Oakland, Filmore Street, Filmore under that's oakling um uh 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:06.520 is that is that when filber in west uh Fillmore is. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.440 This is a neighborhood in San Francisco. To Okay, okay, okay, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.880 freak that down. Yeah, the Fillmore is a very historical neighborhood. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.000 To Okland has a lot of history. You know, you 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.400 got different parts of the Bay, the Bay. You look 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.000 at the Bay like you look at the Five Boroughs 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.000 in New York. It's different sides of the Bay. Eforting 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.120 him over there from Vallejo, it's a little town called 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.680 East pala Altoy got you know, a lot of backbone. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.080 It's um. You know, San Francisco got a couple of 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:33.279 little neighborhoods over there, Hunter's Point in Filmo and southing Dale. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.000 You know, they real reportable neighborhoods. But you know, I'm 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.240 from East Oakland. I got mine from the East side. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.240 So I show up and I'm just being a sponge man. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.320 It's a new place. I'm looking around, you know. I 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.200 go to Freemount of High School and Ship and it's 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.640 like I go to school and as a nigger named 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.440 Frank the Bank who's pimping. He's a twelth grader of pimping. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:57.880 Hold on, let's make some freak. He's pimping and one 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.160 of his Yeah, one of his hosts go to the 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.160 school too. Okay, I'm in this city now, I'm like wow. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.560 So it's like this. They got another hop come show 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.359 up after school every day and picking him and up 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.719 him and the young how up and they go to work. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.919 So it's like it was that type of environment. Man, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.680 you got cats riding around like limousines, niggers driving the limousine. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.039 If he rolled the back wind of that, it's like 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.640 five homes back there and then his house and it's 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.240 not the driver. And that's the first time you're coming 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.000 from South Central and that's the first time you see 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.400 pimp in. And then at the same time, it's like 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.320 Oakland was a lot different. Man. It was like niggas 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:36.680 was doing like car bombs and ship and what do 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.240 you mean by car bombs, was blowing each other's cars. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.119 Why they was at war. They blow car. They chopped 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.840 your body up and put you in the plastic bag 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:46.960 on the side of the right. It was. It was 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.840 going down. They was doing Mafia ship seventies early. It's 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.120 like Felix Mitch. You ever heard of Felix Mitchell. Yeah, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.320 but this is not the Spanish gangs, right, No, no, no, 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.440 this is before us. Just black dudes. This is the mob. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.280 They called him something mom too, but it was just 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:03.640 it was different than the gang. The Blue and Red 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.520 people don't know that. UM on the West coast to 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.960 this day, you got the l A Cats. They went 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:20.560 to UM San Diego, UH, Sacramento, Denver, every city, want 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:24.560 to Las Vegas, UM, Phoenix, Arizona. They went to all 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:29.600 these cities, Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon, and they converted motherfucker's 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:31.720 into being crypton bludds. It's all up and down the west. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.880 You never found that ship in the bay. The bay 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.720 was like, we don't get it, we don't want it. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.480 And you know, even though because even the Spanish gangs 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.640 they might like fly color, but they ain't bang. They 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.000 was doing the North and South Ship and it ain't 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.680 the same science as crypton bloods as l A. Like 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.840 a lot of cities are like You've got Chicago niggas 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.760 that go around the way for Chicago and niggas in 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.840 the Vike's Lords and g ds like thing. You know, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.840 it just didn't take to the Bay, blue and Red 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.200 and all that ship. So I'm just taking this ship 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.240 in as this new catnic city. And I started rapping, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.920 just working around on the my all, my all, my 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.080 early raps, like one my ship was like kind of 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.880 like whatever whatever I was getting from, like sugar Hill 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.960 Records or something, just that vibe about, you know, the 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.320 party and ship and all that ship. So I'm wrapping 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:19.239 at different people's instrumentals. And the one thing that changed 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.160 everything for me was when I first heard the message 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.040 and I sat there, I'm walking down the street. I 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.880 remember I had my radio and because I'm listening to 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.360 this record to I've been bumping hip hop for about 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.280 three years at the time, and I'm listening to this 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.520 record and I could clear his day picture New York 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.679 City because the nigga was described New York at that time, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.280 never so I can see New York. We weren't doing 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.680 videos and Ship. But then you just listen to the music. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.680 So the nigga was giving me New York and I 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.959 just had the ideal of a lifetime about to give 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.480 these niggas Oakland. So so my upbringing in l A 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.720 and then moving to Oakland and taking it in like 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.520 a like a canvas or something like, you know, and 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.360 absorbing it. You know, something that I didn't receive from birth. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.400 I just came into it. I started writing about it 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.480 was it became like my music the city of Oakland. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.719 And even later in life, I could get stuck in 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.560 the studio and just think of some crazy shift I've 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.480 seen in Oakland, some shout I heard in Oakland, some 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.800 shift I think about Oakland and just start writing. And 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.120 Ship just made me write songs. So, so, what's the 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.760 name of their first album again out Don't Stop Rapping? 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.880 And I named it that for a reason And you 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:35.800 didn't stop wrapping by five? So so short, Yeah, that's crazy, 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.920 that is crazy. So and when what year did that drop? Five? 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.840 I was born in seventy seven, so you know, So 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.080 if I don't, if I know that, you know, I'm 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.400 a big fan. I always been a big fan of you. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.560 U was raping job for a long time. Come on, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:56.640 let's a salute to that rape job. You saw that 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:02.679 Planet Rock documentary. Yeah, the relationship between crack cocaine and 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:07.000 hip hop, let's not the city v H one. It 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.839 was either VIN one or B and then talking about 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.920 throughout the history of hip hop and how the cocaine 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.079 and the cracking. I'm from that ship because the way 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.560 that people say, uh and freeway Rick Ross. If they 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:27.880 said that crack cocaine invented in Oakland, it was l 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.360 a but then they they used cities like Oakland to 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:34.319 kind of like to stop. Yeah. Yeah, So how was 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.040 that like seeing the city coming from South Central going 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.199 to Oakland and then you seeing it not having crack 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.160 and then now crack has closed. So first and foremost, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.120 I gotta say I never so dup in my life. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.679 You know what's going to do? I sold a lot 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.199 of pussy. Yeah, oh my god. But that being said, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:11:01.160 um so before eight five, before like you know, you 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.640 remember that ship, it was like I could be like 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.720 what I called Nigga rich Man. You might just your 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.559 hu hustle might only back then might have got you 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.959 like three five grand, but you had a car. You 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.559 always had a wide with a rubber band. He was 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.400 he was bawling. And the crack change that ship. I remember, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.240 I remember the crack did a few things man because 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.000 her Oakland was like not Oakland, but I mean that 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:29.000 area was a great area. Like prior to the drugs, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:30.959 you could you could move around a little bit. It 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.560 wasn't too fucking dangerous if you you do freeery red 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:38.080 Cross later on, later on continued, but it's the kind 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.320 of place where you could you had to get yourself 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.920 in some trouble if you did it, if you asked 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.840 for it, you was gonna get it to the front appropriately. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.760 But after the crack, you would notice like and you 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.680 know this ship too, um, it would be like little niggas, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.839 the little niggas that used to probably like couldn't fight 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.000 too good and ship and it wasn't like you know, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.280 these little niggas was respected. Now they got that money, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:11:59.920 that sack and they got a couple of soldiers and 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.040 like this little nigga is a boss now like too 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.200 three years into it, Like this nigga is a kingpin. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.200 And it just changed that. You know, we didn't before 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.120 the crack, we didn't have a handguns that could shoot 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.240 seventeen bullets. You know what I'm saying that the motion 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.959 you might get shoot six shots and the motherfucking you know, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.400 tell you why you got shot after the crap, you 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.480 don't know why you got shot seventeen And that's just 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.559 if it's a handgun. Do you believe the story that 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.959 the c i A actually that it started. That's a 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.920 good version that this is true. But the bigger version 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.680 now is the whole big story of the whole mass 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.760 incarceration thing, that the whole ship was a scam. So 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.199 that it's damn there, like we we all this ship 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.559 we called coke rap. We're damn there like we we 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.200 failed for the trap. You know they call what they 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.040 sell dope in the spot called the trap. That I 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.880 mean it says at all. So so so listen, I 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.880 want to get into the pymnt thing because you know 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.959 why I want to get into the Pippin thing because 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.160 I don't give a funk with any n y C nigga. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.960 Tell you, we didn't know anything about no Pippen until 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.280 we heard you talking about it. When you heard you 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.679 talking about it, then we've seen Bishop don maam, we've 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.199 seen them. You know the players, uh, players ball, we've 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.079 seen all that. Come on, he stopped the phone boy, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:19.000 that's because so so so so so so when was 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.520 the first time he was introduced to pimpen And then 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.080 how did you realize that that was that was gonna 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.520 be your life? All right? Well, my infatuation started with 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:29.960 the movies of the seventies because they put it in there. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.200 And then, like I said, my cousins living on eighty 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.680 four ft hoover, if you go to the other end 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.360 of the block, you want to figure rower and that's 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:39.840 where it hover. That's in the l a. So then 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.560 when I get the Oakland, I see these niggs righting 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.559 around limousine, the hoses and then getting picked up in 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.199 school from his hose and limousines looking at back and 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.280 it was like they're made back back then. Yeah, and 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.679 then me and my little homie, we'll go down to 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.520 San Pablo where they used to see pussy and prior 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.520 to Crack, they looked like a fucking monel wing runaway 0:13:55.520 --> 0:14:01.440 and ships were beautiful. Yeah. So because you know, Crack 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.559 gave pivot and home like this ugly s image. A 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.120 lot of pimps got smoked out a lot of holes 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:06.880 got smoked out, and then it was like then we 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.240 start saying it like crack horrors. Before that, your bitch 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.440 had to be a superstar. And even to this day, 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.959 I want to shout out some of my young pimping 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.200 homies right now that they're pimping on some dying pieces 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:22.360 that you would never think was bitches not making three 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.400 when she laid she's bringing in a thousands, she's bringing 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.720 in thousands. You know, I was out there on some 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.720 major routes right now. So just to keep the pimpot alive, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.880 don't don't, don't get it, I keep propping my call 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:41.360 like every time. I keep some times shoes they looked 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.760 like rappers morning. So so I, um, I've seen this ship, man. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.240 I started. I started diving a little more into it. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.640 My thing with rapping after I heard the message was 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.560 let's use the lingo of the streets, the new slang 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.800 words that come out the ship that's really happening, Like, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.680 let's talk about these streets. And then it just he 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.320 off into you know, let's talk about this game, and 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.280 we just started like people just you would wrap about 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.000 ship and you would see what motherfucker was interested in. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.480 They wanted to hear that real ship. So somewhere down 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.880 the line, I had a I had a line in 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.080 one of my songs, I don't know if you're smokeing, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:23.640 Oh ship ship short. I was anna say that I 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.440 didn't know you smoke you About fifteen sixteen, I wrote 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.640 this this one line and said, um, it said I 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.480 had sixteen holes sucking tin toes and that you can 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.960 bet like it was just a line, and every time 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.480 I said that in the song, Motherfucker's laughed. So I 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.360 sat down by myself and said, let me write a 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.360 song about each of these sixteen holes and how I 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.880 met him. And that was the early version of my 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.960 song that came to be real popular, called Freaky Tales. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.760 And I had a song about these sixteen holes how 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.320 I met him, I met this hole, you know, And 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.320 it just started being more and more himp and I 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.320 just started digging into the game. M and you you 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:07.560 gotta you know, you got the Donald Goin's books. Listen, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.480 you got um you know, Iceberg, Slim, The Story of 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.000 My Life, Phil More. Some of those books got some 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.320 real game up in the real game. I read this 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.440 book called a broad Players. It's not very popular, but 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.600 that motherfucker. Just it's just big pimping. And I started 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.200 it just come to me, man, you get these ideas 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:26.840 as a writer, and I'm like, dn that hauld be 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.320 a cold as fun just like this. I gotta tell 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.000 your story short. One time I met Bischer don wan 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.480 he he invited me to a joint, right and then 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.840 and then so party. For a week, I was pimping, 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.640 like for just one week, just one week, right, just 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:48.240 one I swore I was pimping. Right. So this white 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:49.880 bass come on to me and I said, you bit, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.360 you gotta choose. She choose, She chose me. I ain't 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.160 know what to do after that, Like I did that short? 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.920 Can you can? You? Can? You? What was I trying? 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.360 Owes me and start? Who were wearing? Why? And the 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.760 ship is like it's like any other business man. Why 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.920 is this woman gonna sell her body and give you 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.840 the money? Right? And you know, you put yourself and 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.120 start of like a manager role. You kind of like um, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:18.359 kind of like her fucking fucking therapists and ship. You know, 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.600 but this is gonna be crazy as hell. You gotta 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.840 you gotta bring it back around every night, because a 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.800 real pimp gotta be real smart. Let's the main The 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.440 main secret I think that I learned about pippin that one, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.639 the one that lets you go home and kick your 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.680 ass back while she's out there working, is she gotta 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.919 be home for a purpose, and you've got to give 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:42.200 her a person, some noise for for a purpose. Start 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.560 giving that puss here away for no reason. So, I mean, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.560 it's anything in life. Man, if you're not driven, if 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:49.560 you're you're wrapping and ship, and you're not wrapping for something, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.720 you're not really you're not really going forward, just on 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.440 the corner freestyling and battling. I just always thought that 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.280 like the pimps that didn't hit the holes and didn't 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.080 do that, I thought there's the best ones, because in 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.600 order for you to control somebody with your mind and 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.359 just talk to them, that is the illest psychological therapist, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.680 craziest ship. So how about those pips, Well, you know 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.720 the pimps who I call that like finesse pimpen where 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:20.760 you could just pep and then the other guy who 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.639 gotta beat the girl scared of shut out. They call 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.200 that guerrilla pimp. And I heard about and you know 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.280 the finesse pimps, they kind of laugh at the grilla pimps. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.159 It's kind of like they look at it like the 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.760 nigga is not as smart as me and he don't 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.520 got much game as me. But it works both ways. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:34.760 You want to you want to pimp the whole out 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.680 of fear. I personally don't think that that's even necessary, 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.560 but there's a lot of niggas. It's mean nature like 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.359 that to just dog the bitch out and just just 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.720 run round a house full of fear. But you know, 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.679 either way, you're getting the money man, because because your 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.040 record label was always you was you was signed a 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.760 job for like like well ship like like maybe twelve 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:03.400 the no it was me E forty spice one because 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.200 the tours was crazy back then. So but you was 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.600 the first like a fish rapper from Oakland, no doubt about, 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.760 from the whole fucking Bay area. Make some noise for that. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:16.920 I got dad at no Ship And it has really 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.680 nothing to do with my l a upbringing either. This 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.399 that I just got to Oakland. It all just happened. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.560 After I got there. I decided I could do this 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.440 rap ship and I just didn't it just you know, 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:31.880 it's even bigger than being the first rapper up out 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.800 of the bay. Bigger than that is is being a 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.280 pioneer of the whole music scene, because you could be 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.800 the first rapper and not pioneer ship. But we brought 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:44.440 in that independent put your mother records out, you know, 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.000 And like I said, it was because then job came 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.360 and got you. How did that happen when you first 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.879 got sign a job? I came in the game through uh, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.879 through some some street guys, you know, okay, particularly a 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:04.080 guy named Dean Hodges. He seen you and this little 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.560 brother was was the homie. We still you know, smoke weed, 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.000 hang out the ship and he was just the homie. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.159 We still funk around and like his little brother rapped, 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.720 but he wasn't. He wasn't really that quality where that 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.240 you ever thought he was gonna get on. He was 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:17.639 just like for the fun of every day. But then 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.160 the projects rapping and ship kicking out. So he was like, man, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.600 my brother got a record label. I'm like, okay, you know, 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.320 He's like, take you up by his house. Now I 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.639 knew his brother not for having a record label. The 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.119 nigga he had the sack And if you want to 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:31.840 get a visual of Dean back then, Dean kind of 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.159 you know nigga with the with the curlers in his hair, 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.119 the cover green or whatever the East Coast. Every time 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.679 they had the curlers in the head, just kill us. 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.359 Picture that nigga and looking like he was kind of 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.879 like a Jimmy Hendricks, Rick James looking just like a 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:52.280 rock star. Him and man, I got so much game. 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.080 Dean taught me how to be a player. This nigga 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.439 was a player. He was a player for I mean 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.600 real player who was sitting in his house. I'm fresh 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.640 out of high school. This nigga run in and out 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.080 all day all day. Just he got the sack and 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:04.840 he's just rock star in the hood and he's just 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.040 a house on the hill bawling. And then then they 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.520 had a label. And the whole label consists of him 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.720 m having the money, having a drug. Everybody wanted to cocaine. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.080 He sit out there. You go to Dean's house, it 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:21.760 is a platter of cocaine right there. It's a it's 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.240 a bit. It's a bit over there and maybe in 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.280 her and her draw panties and brought cooking up some cokes. 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.240 Want to smoke it. It's a box of weed. Just 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.119 roll a joint. If you don't ask, just roll the 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.959 motherfucker and you know. It's just it was a colorful environment. Man. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.320 My fucking Dan was kind of the watch Sanfer and 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.600 sun rerounds all day and just and just bit just 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.480 sit around their panties. I'm not gonna lie when you 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.520 described that scene, me Lee think side and we didn't 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.400 look like some ship like that. On a way higher level, 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.200 this nigger was not selling rocks. This was not a 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.960 rock house you had. You had to come up in 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:56.320 there with some money, if you know what I think. 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:01.000 So Dean got all these professionals together, musicians that played 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.439 all instruments, niggas that have been in you know, different 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:05.920 bands with because Oakland got a lot of music history. 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:07.800 So these niggas that played with Tower and Power and 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.520 Larry Graham and James and all kind of motherfucker's. It 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.560 was just it was professionalism. And he put me in 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.080 the studio with these niggas, these like older cats. He 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:18.960 even had some rock and roll dudes around. It was 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.160 just it was a great environment to become too short. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.639 It wasn't really doesn't sound really healthy, but it was 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.520 a great environment to develop the character. Too short and 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:30.240 we made. We just go to studio since session started 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:33.040 LEMPM in the six am, and it was just you know, 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.320 it's like college for me, you know what I'm saying. 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.280 But the main thing was the nigga was really running 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.760 the independent label and he was really going to the studio. 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.080 And he's the one who took you to job going. No, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:46.640 he was the one that he just taught me this ship. 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.920 So we go to the studio, the ship mixed down, 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.119 we got this other motherfucker. We get cassettes and wax 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.920 pressed up. We got this other motherfucker. And he he 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.520 sells the ship to multiple record stores and then we 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.119 drive up to individual record stores and just carry the 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.280 ship in and sell it to him. Because it's true, 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:08.720 like like y'all invented independent hustling for that. How I 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.960 got lucky was one day I'm one Dean, this nigga, 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:14.600 you know, the nigga that taught you the game. You're 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.920 looking up to. This nigga is driving bins. He's the nigga. 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.040 So you know, I'm like, what's what we're doing next? 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.480 And then one day Deans, like about tw years into it, 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.760 he was like man to me and his little brother 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.040 I need you to get the funk out of my house. Yeah, 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.880 focus music, ship, just get the way, don't come around. 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.720 I don't know more, but we like family. His mom 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.520 is like my mom, and his cousins like my cousin. 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:41.480 We ain't going too far right up the street. But 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:42.840 still now he was like, I don't want to more 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.600 parts of it. So that all we had to do 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.280 now is we've been running with Dean for two years, 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:51.439 to the motherfucking studio, to the manufacturer, to the negati 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.400 did the artwork, to the motherfucking distributor picking up the check. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.840 Were right there with what do we do? We do 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.359 the ship without him, nigga, we made so much motherfuckers, 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:02.040 and that's how you are. That's how I found me, 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.960 and then job came to you. We didn't give a 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.440 funk about the signing bonus and nothing. We're just like, 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.200 you're gonna give us national distributions. Let's right. You know 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.560 in New York it was the exact opposite of that wine. Why, yeah, 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.680 you'll be trying to get a deal, right, We'll be 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:21.840 trying to get a deal first. But we heard or 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:28.320 something because we heard that Richmond, California. You guys in yeah, Oakland, 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.159 like you guys in like like y'all was actually like 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.320 when you said selling out the trunk, we meant that 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.960 as selling it to fat beats. We wasn't selling I'm 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.360 gonna keeping it honest with you. We wasn't selling out 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.119 the trunk, y'all. Was literally we had boxes in the 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.240 back of selling out the motherfucking trunk. And it wasn't 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:54.359 no trunk. It was actually a fucking truck trunk, actually truck. Wow. 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.320 The same thing with Master P. Man Master was in 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.119 the Bay. He was in the Bay. His family they 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.760 owned like record stores. He owned the record store in Richmond. 0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.680 Master P was from New Orleans, came out to the 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:12.240 Bay and he started making them West Coast down South 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.920 compilations and ship and then he he blew the funk 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:18.000 up and set up shop down in the bathroom as well. 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.800 Master he was in the Bay, which sucks sing after 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.120 independent game. So yeah, y'all, y'all told us the independency 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.920 ship like every time, it was just a no option thing. Though. 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.679 Man if I had sucking Tommy Boy and motherfucking uh 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.840 goddamn Profile Records was up the street. I've been up 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.720 there telling my hooked me to funk up, but we 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.879 didn't have it. So you guys got had to always 0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.800 look at New York people like, damn y'all lazy. How 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.480 how y'all gotta deal on y'all in the city. I 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.280 had a rap partner before, like eighty five. My rap 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:48.160 partner got caught up in the in the crack game 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:50.040 and we never heard this. Let's make some noise to 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:55.680 do short for giving us the fred Freddy he was, 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.359 he was popping. It was it was Freddie being too short. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.840 It was that nigga. That nigg was an Oakland nigga 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:02.760 born in brand New Niggas on every side of the town. 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.600 It was he was. He was like the plug for me, 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:10.520 like just walking the streets with um. Yeah before that though, UM, okay, 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.920 the weed is working because yeah, no, I ain't gonna 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.480 lie to you. I this song with you back in 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.880 the days. But for you to sit down and sit 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.440 down and chill, because you know what this is. It's 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.200 about letting legends live again. You know what I'm saying. 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.720 This is the Drink Dry podcast is about. And for 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.119 you to just sit down and you not to deny 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.920 me pass you the weed. I am very happy. My 0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:39.720 brother the guy has spoken up blood with too short interviewing, 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:48.040 too short. Fun know this is a serious legend. Were 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:52.000 like eighty four, me and Freddy B. We're talking about 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.639 all right, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.400 two great hand tickets. We wrote down the list every 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.480 motherfucking twelve inches that came out, every every single that 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.960 dropped out of New York, all the different labels. We 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.440 wrote down an address to the motherfucking label. Were like 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:07.760 on the Greyhound, we're going these fucking address. We don't 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:09.879 get us a record out like that was the That 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:13.440 was the option. Listen all you knew niggers need to 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.440 listen to what he just said. Oh my god, can't 0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.760 continue please, that's that's just a crazy story. These guys 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.000 just stole it on the internet and just hope Kevin 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.480 Lyles call them gag continue. Yeah, but you know it 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.159 was going. We had plans, man like, it was like 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.160 options and ship and then we got with that independent 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.520 game and it should just happened like Dean. Dean showed 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.119 me how to do it. I always give credit to 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.960 him for it and what I did when I got it, 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.760 I passed it. On to one of my homies. Okay 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.040 to do who I am who came back around After 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.840 I quit fucking with Dean, I still needed somebody to 0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.840 come with some money to make the dream come true. 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.480 I knew how to do it, but I didn't have 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.320 the money no more. So my man tear Bow hanning 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.000 him and uh big ted little tear they got. They 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:00.600 got a little rap in the street to Oakland. People 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:05.440 know who that is. They they came through, put a 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.160 nigger back in the game with the you know, studio 0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.760 time and being ever press up the ship and all 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.560 that ship, and we just kind of we blew up 0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.800 from there. Man, we went to the next motherfucking level. 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:21.280 We're just I'm just every every I think. It was 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.920 like every fifteen racks would make me like sixty or 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.000 some ship like that. Every fifteen racks you spend, yeah, 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.800 we'll make you six dealers. Listen to this pay attention. 0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.600 And it was clear legit money, and we we flip. 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.640 We kept flipping it so many times. We just kept 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.200 on getting this is when you're just in though. We 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.840 go buy fifteen thousand casents and selling for sixty racks, 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.240 and we did that. Give you the upper handle when 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.400 the Drive came knocking. Yeah, but all we wanted from 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.640 Drive with distribution the way we did the Ship, we 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.360 just we just want to get a different deal though, 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.480 compared to like someone in New York that was signing 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.440 the Drive because trip we thought we did in the 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.120 long the mother's slick man, because that's what I'm wondering. 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:02.600 We got. We had some ship, and we had to 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.160 bullshit too. But it's cool. We we've met a lot 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:06.960 of money. How you've been in the job. How many 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:11.640 years I was on that motherfucker from Hue eighty eight 0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:15.520 until like goddamn damn me in two thousand and it 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.560 was a long time. Let's make some money A long time. 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.960 A lot of moms that a lot of motherfuckers. You 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.120 don't have fun on job. Let me say it's funny day. 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.560 So I wrapped a long time before I got a deal. 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:33.440 I did a lot of ship before I gotta deal. 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.479 I gotta deal in eight eight, and I had been 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.120 rapping like seven eight years already, So I had all 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.000 these rap songs that I put out in the streets 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.400 to people new and love. When I signed the Jive, 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:48.560 it shot me to check the albums win nationwide checks 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.800 came back, you know the Royal Teaching ship that shot 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.200 the next up front. I'm like, nigga, Like, you know, 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.160 we was getting money, grinding, hustling. I was like, Nigga, 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.120 this niggers gonna keep sending me hundreds of thousands if 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.080 I make songs. Nigga. I went back until I had 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.520 a box. Well, I didn't have a rap book. I 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.200 had a box full of wraps I've been right in 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.600 for years and just little tapes in the street. I 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.600 wouldn't that box and recycle every motherfucking line in there, 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.120 but I would just scratch out the line if I 0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.000 use it. I was using them old wraps for the 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.800 next eight years. Should I wrote for eight years prior, 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.600 I used for eight years. In my deal, I put 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.200 out an album probably every nine months. And now, what 0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:28.120 would you getta see to yourself more of a wrapper 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.600 or more of a CEO and the hustler. Well, as 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.360 far as rap goes, I think I'm a real, real 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.000 major hip hop fan and I always put myself outside 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.320 the circle of what I'm calling hip hop niggas. Was like, oh, 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.360 they nigga spit them bars. You know that ship, Like 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.640 I was strictly just pounding in the trunk, talking ship. 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:54.560 And I could have taught a lot of niggas, no 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.440 matter what the integrity of you as a man, I 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.840 could have taught you how to talk that ship and 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:00.720 make that ship pound. You would have had a million 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.080 fans like me, like it just was you talk shit. 0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:08.600 I listen, I'm saying ship talking versus spitting bars and 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.200 all this ship and being a rapper. But see, oh man, 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:13.920 I look at it like we hustlers, man, because we 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.720 we we started company, and we don't say you're my boss, 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.800 and that like were hustling to get this money doing something. 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.800 We didn't drop niggas off on the way. Because we're 0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:24.480 hustling and getting money. It's a lot of money coming 0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.600 in and niggas like call me when you're going to lunch, 0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.920 you know, Like you know, we're up at seven in 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.160 the morning pressing up ship and picking up ship and 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.640 moving it around, you know, and we and we partied 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.760 all last night, but we're up in the morning grinding 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.640 getting the ship to where we can get these checks back. 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.960 I always thought about bank deposits. Yeah you need to 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.440 be you need to be making more money, and yeah, 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:47.720 you have took that in the bank. I need to 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.760 try to put that in the bank, so I'll put 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:54.680 that on my mattress. I'm a foul, don't. I'm like, 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:56.680 how the fund can we make get to the bank 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.560 and put money in? Uh? We? So we're grinding man 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.520 like the Nias done at that same black minded philosophy. 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:09.560 He was dropping him off on the way. Welcome to 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.680 play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.640 talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:22.280 play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:28.160 Rapper and R and d Jes. Then, now, how did 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.200 you get the minutes to Society Brow? How did you 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.640 because you just don't are you handing? Really? Okay? The 0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.280 Hughes brothers, this is what I think happened. The brothers 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.920 are a really real big Bay Area hip hop fans 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.680 and they from Pomona somewhere in l A. They love 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:45.560 Bay rapped there to say this is what they told me. 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:51.360 And Tupac had just funked off his partner movie by 0:32:51.560 --> 0:33:03.040 beating one of the brothers. So, um so Park was 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.280 off the movie. And if you notice, it's not a 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.320 lot of star power. You got but Park didn't have 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.920 your role. No no, no, no, no, he didn't he 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:16.360 had You're supposed to be the it that was. So 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.440 they needed a little star power and they just uh 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.760 they strictly just brought me into that they could have 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:23.600 like somebody name branding that motherfuckering. Then they they just 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.160 happened to be major too short fans if you noticed, 0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.400 they came and got me for their next little documentary movie. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.000 Uh what was it called? American pamp Oh? Yes, and 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.560 let me set you though, you're supposed to be in there, 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.520 go ahead. So it was it was just a matter 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:37.640 that man, I came in there and work for a 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.240 few days and kicked it. That minister Society, the cold 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.960 ass movie. You had the coldest role in there. Yeah, 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.880 they learning you know, I'm not that was a cold world. 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.040 I'm not only pulled the trap on no dog, that's 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.160 the movie. Let's make some noise and put on trap 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:58.479 roll dog. That's a fact that that's I mean for us, 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.480 especially us from New York. Um. You know, when we've 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.640 seen you, when we see n Way, when we've seen 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:09.280 many society boys in the hood, that's when we actually 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.360 realize y'all culture because we knew that hip hop. I 0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.920 think comment had made the record. I love her, and 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.600 but when they went over there, yeah, I used to 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.400 love But when it went over there, yeah, I was 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:26.200 so different. And for me everything was about buildings. Everything 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.080 was about like when I see in the face ye 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.520 and you chopped it up and this was the craziest 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:36.520 thing to see you guys in your element. You know 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.120 what I'm saying. Like, but but the crazy thing is 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.680 you was from South Central and then you went up 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.759 north North North Cow, so you called it up North 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:54.360 and North Yeah, north count Two different worlds, two different 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.800 The Mexican gangs they divide them, the slang words, the 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.040 dress come wow yeah makes you could adapt to both 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.560 worlds still. I mean to this day, to this day, 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.560 you can still love that. I an't gonna lie. I 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.640 had a promoter hit me one time and it was 0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.239 a It was a lady. It was like, you want 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.960 too short at the easiest people to um handle, and 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.920 I was like, why is that? It was like, you 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.160 don't ask for here and make up. They just want 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:23.960 the land and we miss the diva ship. What's Yeah. 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.400 I'm like, I'm like, what's the pick up? You can 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.320 take that where did Mike at how it makes you 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.160 need one? So that but after minutes, how did your 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.480 life change? Because that had to be the biggest music 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.440 movie at that time. Man, I ain't gonna lie. Man, 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.799 what I had going on at that moment was bigger 0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.759 than that movie. My Ship was platinum, platinum, platinum, that movie. 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.560 That movie like some side shout, I wouldn't there was 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.520 a side. It was a slot. I was already popping 0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.759 so that the movie came out hit hard, but it was. 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.480 It was one of the ones that kind of like 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.400 Purple Rain kind of movie where kind of lasted and 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.239 lasted and lasting. We don't go still last. You watch 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.719 it right now on TV or you know, and edited 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.080 it's still it's the Ship movie. The boys made a 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.799 good movie. But you know, man, that whole New York 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.279 West Coast thing I used to I used to go 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.040 to New York. What you're telling me now? Like I 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.440 used to go to New York. And I know for 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.719 a fact it wasn't really about the music, because motherfucker's like, man, 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.560 I really needn't hear too much that you did. But 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.000 they'd be like man, respect some respect, kids like like 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.800 it would be it was the fact then it was 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.800 a nationalize just like if you're the man, you're the 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.040 man in your hood. So I asked my New Yorkers, 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:33.680 I'm like, what does that mean that they keep saying respect? 0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.520 They like they're showing you love. Like it's just saying, 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.680 you know, ship, that's that's a big deal for New 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.680 Yorker says that you respect. So I was like, okay, cool, 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.040 but it wasn't about the music, and and you know, 0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.080 I kind of um, I kind of uh, you know, 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:48.640 I started hanging out in New York a little bit. 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.040 Man after a WI they love you in New York. 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.480 I don't know if you know that, but you know, 0:36:52.640 --> 0:37:00.400 the whistle blow, the whistle come on. Getting in the 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.120 studios though in New York moving around, I didn't. I 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.520 didn't been on I've been on three jay Z albums, 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:11.360 two big albums. Going in was it was going in? 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.520 How did that first feel? Like? You know, Jay wanted 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.480 to mess with you. You're all the way on the 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.839 other side of the coast and he wanted I got 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.880 I got the B I G blessing the I G. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:25.279 Just he was what you worked your big before, JA, 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.239 or do you work with big first? And then he 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.120 told me this ship. Man, he told me this ship 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:32.839 the first time I met him. He can't. He called 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.560 me over to a limo where was at the outcast 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:40.840 picnic and Limos was popping back, nig a limo right now? 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.399 If you fucked up, you put up in a limo. 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:48.080 Ain't nobody niggas Like who who's sucking Bob Dylan up 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.040 right now? Like yeah, But back then, I understand that 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.680 Limos was that They caught me up to the limo 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.480 and you know, rolling winder that and I walked leaning 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.680 over and it's it's a friendly event outdoor, you know, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.799 this matching this ship on the on the front line 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.040 of background all around the house and ship, and he 0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.200 caught me over and he just said, yo, yo, you 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:08.920 got love in Brooklyn. That's all he said. Yeah, Like 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:11.560 what's up? So then a couple of years later, Niga 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.520 is a super making stuff. But but hold on because 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.920 I want your continior story. But did you know how 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.600 much New York loved you? Because New York loved you? 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.560 And That's what I'm getting at. It was it was 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.120 a gradual you know understanding that I didn't even I 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.200 wasn't getting it for a minute. Okay, so um he 0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:28.600 told me that ship and then a couple of years 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:30.480 later we're sitting on the tour of us spoken some weed. 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.680 He was like, you remember that time you came on 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.920 to the limits like you gotta love in Brooklyn? He 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.320 said that was me. I'm like, damn, you know, like 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.920 you know, like, oh, so he wasn't biggie when he 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:41.879 told you that. He probably was already had his deal 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:46.279 and ship. He was a party, but he was some 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.839 noise for two short breaking the story and off, Oh 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.279 that's crazy. So you met Big before he was big 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.400 and he told you you had loving Brooklyn and you 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.720 see him later that later on we started being homies 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:58.279 and ship. We're making songs. We did that Out of 0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:03.520 the World is field Hose so too short? You keep 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.200 making me pop my collar the whole episode of making 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:11.440 your Sight. I just I've been like that and now 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:15.279 I'm a hyphian because I go out there recently. I'm sorry, 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:17.920 I'm sorry, I'm gonna ride the river every Yeah, you know, 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.200 Big just we we just became friends, man, And you know, 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:24.440 he he told me about how how New Yorker is 0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.800 for the most part, wasn't really feeling like listening to 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.359 any other hip hop outside New York and he's like, man, 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.319 I've been listening to everything though. He was plaming Ship 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.600 like he listened all down South Ship and he was like, 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.560 I like him. I like Ship. So so he was 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.040 one of them cats who was open without any kind 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.800 of bias, and he um he wanted to work, like, 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:44.480 let's do a song. And then the way I did 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.759 this song with him and he sent Puffy to come 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.040 get me. You're like, you know, like Puffers that you 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.279 can't say no kind of nigger. So puff was like, man, 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.839 you know Big want you on the song. I've never 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.880 been able to say no toll to this day. And 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:57.960 he was like people think he had a soft he 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.479 was a bully. Man, He's a bully. He's a bullet. 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.239 This this is a funny story that Big came to 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.960 the Oakland and I think somebody took his chain. I 0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.239 ain't heard that one. Didn't heard that one. You didn't 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.360 heard that one. I heard forty helped that out. Okay, 0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.719 you know what I moved to Atlanta was talking about 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:20.600 the Atlanta movement. You were responsible from Atlanta being the 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:27.040 pipin country. Atta what wait, Eric sermon, we moved to Atlanta. 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.359 You moved to Atlanta early? What year did you move? 0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.640 Is that why they got strip clubs in Atlanta. I 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.879 didn't move to Atlanta for the music industry. I moved 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.360 to that motherfucker for the for the property, the culture 0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:44.840 that I was. I was down there. It was it 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.239 was like easy math. It was real estate was like 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:53.640 one fourth of what California ship table dances at the 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:58.920 strip of how much in California that the ratio of 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:02.360 women and men was like on even one it was 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.000 going down and it was just it was like you 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.399 was the first person to crack the outlets, some noise 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.880 for him to crack the out you know. Now you 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.080 know who beat me? There was some things that beat me. 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.120 Eric Simon showed up like a little bit before me. 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:19.880 Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown was acting brown. He was atron 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.600 was sucking everything he was in that motherfucker I got 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:27.040 sucking everything. It was his prerogative, it was his proa man. 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:30.400 He was sucking everything. I ain't got everywhere like I 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.360 was a little nigga. See everybody brow like whoever. I 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.120 was like, you're gonna suck him the night? Yeah, go ahead, 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.520 but I'm sorry. I got Yeah. So you know Dallas 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.040 Austin was starting his ship. He was. He was involved 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.840 with the whole TELC come up. L A Read was 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.560 already and then he had the glove one when you 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.680 met him, nothing good. I don't know he were in 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.239 gloves or spikes and ship. He's a little different. He 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.200 was rocking ron Dallas back. He was a rock star. 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.520 He was. He's a rock star. He's always That's what 0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.000 I was trying to establish. So you know, he's old 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.600 g He helped me out. La Ray was who he 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:03.839 is because he was all of that that. The face 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.080 was there, he had Tony Braxton ship already been platting. 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.399 He had like artist Tony Terry, he was the face 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.279 was established and then there was no outcasts. It wasn't 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.279 no giddy mobs, wasn't you know. Criss Cross probably had 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.520 like you know, a single or some ship. The new ship. 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.080 They were still jumping around and ship. I got there 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.480 right when it started. Gucci Crew, I think on I 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.920 got you know, the tag team was bawling and the 0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:31.600 Face Records, yeah you heard that just now. He was 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.839 at the Face Records. They never offered me ship. Let's 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.640 just make some noise for too short for raping the industry. 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.759 Come on, so, I mean I was just there for 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:46.960 young Atlanta. You know the architecture, what coming from coming 0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:51.080 from you're born, You're born in South Central to Oakland 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.520 and now you in the Land and then eyeball Atlanta. 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.000 I'm at the freakneck like what I'm come back? Did 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.800 you realize that this was born to be the music scene? 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.000 You was just out there. I went to the I 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.040 had already been touring out there doing doing concerts and 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.239 ship and then we're gonna Magic City and around. I 0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.600 knew the lifestyle. Now Magic City is where Players Club 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:17.440 is based on that it could be what what did 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.160 you feel like when you've seen the Players Club? Was 0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.239 that true to you or to the lifestyle? I was 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:26.120 living Cuba's my nigger to the lifestyles living. That's very 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.040 water down strip club experience in that movie. I've never 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.759 really seen a strip club to give you a movie 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.319 to give you that real fucking strip club feeling that real. 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.120 So we're gonna make the Moor drink chaps, We're gonna 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:41.680 make the movie together. I never captured that the real 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:44.759 strip club experience. And now all you're saying in the 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.360 Bay Area. Now I'm talking aboutwhere it's a whack on 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.239 the West Coast. I don't I don't even strip clubs 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.400 on the West Coast. I forget Miami. We got it here, man, 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:54.600 we got no I ain't gonna lie Miami. You ain't 0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.960 doing if you ain't doing it like Miami or Atlanta, 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.319 Miami cities like Dallas, and if the best don't get 0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.600 button and you can have a drink in the same building, 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.080 it's bullshit. Let's make some noise for too short Norman 0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.960 about the real strip cloth strip right there is in 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.800 New York the time to time to go to sus 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:19.479 Wanda boos and you know, I'm like, it's a strip 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.919 club in l a with a bitch, um a bitch 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:25.320 where three pairs of panties. She barely get topless for 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.160 a minute. She keeps poking the titty out and then 0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.000 every time the bitch pull her panties back, it's another 0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.360 pair of panties under it. If I was in the hotel, 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.359 that would work for me. Put in the strip club 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.520 with nic I'm in Atlanta, man, I'm getting there, you know, 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.480 before I moved there. And you're like, you get a 0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.439 dance right, she can't. You say, can I get a dance? 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.880 And you say, let me see that pussy? So she 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.560 before you even get the dance, you're like, let me 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.440 just see what I'm getting into, and then you go, oh, yeah, 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.000 I want to dance based on if you like what 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.080 you see. You ain't doing that at no. You know 0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.479 the other joints, you know, sometimes they call the strip clubs. 0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.759 They shouldn't call them naked clubs because girls don't even strip, 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:05.359 they wear nothing. They only call them. I'm not gonna 0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.399 lie with some clubs. They walk around but as naked 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:08.960 you don't even have to have a top of bottom. 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.360 She just walking around already naked. I'm not gonna She 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.080 thought I was a pimp for a week. It didn't 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.840 work out for me. I was, It wouldn't bet for me. 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.360 I just couldn't do it. I just I got compassion. 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.319 I don't know, because should be a p you can't 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.320 have nothing. You can't have no like you know, I 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.439 really feel like I could be a really good pimp, 0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:30.800 but I got this other good ass job called rapping. 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:41.440 I can't got that. Every time you dabble in some 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.240 pimping and this is getting a few gee, she's getting 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.440 some geezs bringing him Like you just did all that 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.759 stressing me to funk out, And that wasn't number two 0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.719 shovels to me because they can't they can't touch the 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.960 money they're supposed to bring the money back. That's a 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.120 real pimp. So you're just having a good month. You 0:45:57.160 --> 0:46:01.280 get uh walking around this now you get like fifteens 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:02.960 out the bush of the Mother. That's a few shows. 0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.479 That's a couple of shows. That's nothing. She's gonna stretch 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.480 you the funk out. Yeah, yeah, you're right, keep that ship. 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:14.160 You do a show? My dig sucked after So how 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.480 does it feel, Christophirst? Because you you did a song 0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:22.840 with jay Z and Biggie Small and multiple songs and 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:30.200 bok Yeah and Snoop. How that's That's something I'm really 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.160 proud of in a career, super super super g and 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:36.960 in a career, I am that all those guys are 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:42.120 gonna be, you know, legends on their way one or 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.600 the other. But when we're all going, yeah, you know, 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.839 I just want to be in that. Not many people 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.440 and bone doogs too, Right, did we do a song? 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.200 I'm not just many songs. I don't even know maybe 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:56.520 I ain't gonna the homies up we did. Just told 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.040 you I did a song on your album. You don't 0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:02.160 even remember. He was sitting there like work you did 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.680 when you did so much song, You're all we got 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:10.320 to bang that song? What then was the hook I 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:16.919 pull about my phone? Right now? People believe you having 0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:24.080 But short man, how you like um all these years? 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:27.160 How do you maintain your love for hip hop? How 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.839 does that happen? Because I like that new ship ain't 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.360 gonna like I like you like, I like what it happens. 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:34.920 And I'm not talking about the new right now. I'm 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.360 talking about every time, the new, every time to change, 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.600 because you know, when you're the nigger, it's it's like sports, 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.719 just like the fucking head. When you're the nigga and 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.600 that next nigger come up like the super stud and 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.840 start getting a little more attending you, you start feeling 0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.719 the kind of way and you still feel the same 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:54.000 that nigga though before I'm like, I'm not nigga, who's 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.920 getting money? Who If I see a young nigga getting it, 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.920 I'm like, nigga getting get it? Nigger, Like that's real, man, 0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.400 Because you understand what you just said, some noise for 0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:09.759 that guy. Everybody, camerady, that's real because I'm promoting that ship. 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.040 Let's all get it. Let's get it, you know what 0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.879 I'm saying. And then when you get it, you're wrong 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.200 if you don't pass it on. It's all wrong. If 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.080 you don't share this some kind of way, don't give 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.360 it away, but teach the next nigger how to how 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.840 to get it too, because you always have fun with 0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.279 the game. Like every time I've seen you, I don't 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.560 care where I see you are. You're walking through you 0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:32.080 looking good. You know what I'm saying. Like there's other 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.920 people who don't do that. You know what happens. Those 0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.400 blessings they come around. Man, it's come back around. There's 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.839 been a time in my life where ship was sucked up. 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.040 That's some fun up ship. And then somebody who I 0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.480 showed that love to, it's like, what's wrong? Bam? You know? 0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:48.080 And instantly and then O for the love And how 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.239 about my man Mr fabi mus for Mr Faber's that's 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:55.160 like my son, let's make noise for Mr Fabian too, 0:48:55.200 --> 0:49:00.239 short side. We just saw him. And then something south 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:06.120 was with cows. Oh yeah, thirty years of round cows that. Yeah, yeah, 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.200 that's my name, that's my brother. Thirty years of rapping. 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.319 Uh huh. I'm like, we get we're getting money other ways. 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.000 We can do this ship with it without the microphone. 0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.279 We can get down right, but you still enjoy what 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.840 you do. Flab came to me and uh it was like, 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.160 man've been rapped the thirty years. You gotta make an albums. 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:23.840 So I'm doing an album called the thirtieth Anniversary. And 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:25.719 and my man came in there kind of a and 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.319 on my album for me, just you know, just kind 0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.520 of just kind of like a beautiful thing, whole bunch 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.040 of ship. We're doing the hoods and ship and just 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.400 just just like putting Nick in shape, Like you know, 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:35.279 you get a nick in shape right right, you gotta 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:36.680 nig in shape for get ass album. So I got 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.440 I'm an old ass snake. I just turned fifty, like 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:46.440 last Thursday, turn fifty, got damage and then her motherfucking fifty. 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:49.280 We had caress one here and he had to all 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:57.080 peak cars. It's correct, yea man, you know my age. Yeah, 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.200 he definitely said he's fifty. Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely said 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.560 he's fifty. Ain't nothing wrong, but you know what's crazy 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:09.120 short you you look young, you're doing young ship and 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:12.480 you still have the love for it. Like I could 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.800 look at you when I asked you these questions. You 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.480 really still love hip hop? No, it's the hustle thing. 0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.000 I'm about to get on the mic and wrap in 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120 front of the crowd tonight. It ain't ship tonight. I 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:26.520 grabbed the mic and live last night, Yeah and live. 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:28.239 I ain't gonna lie. I was so tired that we 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:32.400 had a long. We had a long. I wish I 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.120 knew you was there. So you never lost your love 0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.600 for hip hop now once? Not for wrap now No, No, 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:40.800 because you could be a lean with a rock with 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.960 and like that. They Okay, look you gotta you got 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.759 a bunch of motherfucker's that like this new weird ship. 0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.719 That's what you're saying. That's what you're seeing. Ship is weird. 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.000 How his motherfucker's like it. I try to get around 0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:53.960 and figure out what is it that they like. It 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:56.360 must be the infectious beat, it must be the catchy, 0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:58.680 it must be the way to make you dance. It's 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:00.719 something good about it. So I like, I'm like, oh 0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.839 I get it. I try to get it, like why 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.000 did you nigga is dressing all weird? Oh I get it, 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.880 if it makes sense if you're dressing all weird, I 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.560 don't know. I don't get that part. But they don't 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:18.200 want to be like us kids and their defense when 0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.640 you look at the like the first pitches of hip hop, 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:26.040 the first it was dressing. But guess what these little 0:51:26.080 --> 0:51:28.640 niggas that we're calling weird right now is just trying 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:34.120 to look like the eighties with the Golden ship. So 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.480 so with that being said and you being a pimp, 0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.600 you're being a real nigger. I've never heard too short. 0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.280 And the controversy other than when you ran from bullies. 0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:44.520 That was crazy. What happened when you ran from bullies? 0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.279 Let's talk about that. I was in that l a. 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.240 I had an apartment. I had an apartment right across 0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.880 the street from right here from where I was running 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:57.880 from side. I was about to dip up in the spot. 0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:03.440 And then it's nothing that ain't been done before. You 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:09.720 gotta be careful. I'm just saying that it was crazy. 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.239 We walked the line, but we walked the line. I 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.160 talked to that brother, I was like, man, I did 0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.279 all the tests, all this ship I wasn't even drunk. 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.239 I was like it had been it was three thirty, 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.960 the drinking that stopped a while ago. I wasn't gonna 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.520 walk these bitches to that car, okay, because the bitches 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.040 ship is for real. Let's make some noise keeping it. 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.680 And I feel like I can't call these bitches bitches 0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:34.440 because after I got all the trouble, they never called 0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.320 back once and said, okay, listen, it was just bitches 0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.040 I met that night. Walked these bitches to the car. 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:43.319 I said, no, you know what, I live right over there. 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:45.439 It's like about a block and a half. I'm gonna 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:47.600 drive it all over this three hang out on my spot. 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.120 I'm gonna drive you all over there. Drove him over 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:51.759 there and hit a little you turn to come back 0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:53.120 and turn the light on me. He made me do 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.000 all this ship. And you know, the nigga who saw 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:57.520 the video of the TMZ was like one of the 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.440 security dudes from the club I was. It was all 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.000 right there in the neighborhood that was like a supper 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.800 club I went to that night Tuesday night. I'm like, 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:06.680 even even then, they got heard the nigger sell the 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.560 video for like five hundred days like we would have 0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.440 gave him five thousand, like that bullshit you got there. 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.759 But it was some good press though, Like I do 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.040 like the good press that you get when you get 0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:20.520 to Yeah, but is it the first time you realize 0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.000 the power Internet or you've been new to the power. 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:25.200 And that was the first time I realized. I was 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:37.040 in my forties, because you get the building. I said, dude, 0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.040 I live right there. I said, you got my car. 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:43.000 I said, I'll leave this motherfucker here. Whatever, man, just this, 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:45.479 I live right there. You know. He's like, you gotta 0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.040 blow for me, like man, I told. I said, Man, 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.800 I might not. I was drinking earlier. I just I 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.440 told the whole story. I'm like, sucking right there. A 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.120 lot of times. The copy like, all right, man, just 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.120 you know, leave the car here, you know, go home. 0:53:57.640 --> 0:53:59.600 This things like you gotta blow. I was like, is 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.120 that my only option? That was the last thing I 0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:05.719 asked you could, did you know. I mean, honestly, that's 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.120 one of the ones I regret because I have some 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:11.279 converse low cut um um, the Chuck chillers, yeah, the 0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:13.480 Chuck Taylor's, Yeah, you can't run to those. And I 0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.560 was I was just mad because I was like, those 0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:20.759 are like the Kanye West news leagues. You're running those 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.799 it's over. You think I had like another broad still 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:24.279 at the spot, I'm like, I gotta get back. It 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.239 ain't over. It like going up. So that's just real deal. 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.360 You really have broads, Like wherever every city you go, 0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.399 you have broads or or you stop that. That's I'm 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:37.880 gonna tell you like this at this at this stage 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.560 in the game, I'm not trying to be young short 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.320 dog anymore. I'm not doing this. I used to go 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.520 when I go out, I'm like call of homies, like 0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.440 you know, hang out with a lot of chicks. I 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.960 like eight time we go out. That was my normal. 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.879 I might do some like that tonight, but really, uh tonight, Yeah, 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.200 I mean I'm in Miami. You want me to hang 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:56.640 with you tonight? I want to just see how it 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:59.319 goes down. I'm in Miami, so I'm really not the one. 0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.000 You've been doing this in Miami for the long time, 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.080 but I'm not coordinated. The chicks. It's like Miami is 0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:04.759 like you know, the girls they do it. They're just 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:07.000 like you got the girls who could corded the girls 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:15.320 and they just make some hot five five. For That's 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:16.879 what I'm saying is back in the day, I would 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:18.799 literally get in my phone and called like these two, 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:20.839 those two those to meet me. I did that ship 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.520 up until about three or four years ago. I kind 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.040 of just like chilled it out a little bit. Now 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:26.799 now I might go out with like two or three 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.840 and just you know. Another secret to what I do 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.440 is a lot of guys they try to funk all 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:34.640 the women. I just try to hang out with him 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:36.719 and just hang out to be cool and ship happened, 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.759 were cool. It's that's you know's a secret weapon for 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:45.040 you will Charlie Skins, he didn't secret who else you 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:52.600 gotta tell? Sunday dB he knows about the make some 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:58.719 noise for a horny if you're we gott Donald's let 0:55:58.760 --> 0:56:01.879 me call them all group like no crewe if you're 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.400 a horny mantana like if you if you want to 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:08.160 suck everything, you're like me personally. I've seen a couple 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:12.200 of my horny dudes we in bur Burn, um let 0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:19.160 me pronounce this right, um Berlin, Germany. I've seen my 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:24.680 my homie finger Papa bitch in the butt in the club, 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:28.240 not in the club, in the butt. I say, slime, 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.960 this is not this is I'm uncomfortable with this. I 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:36.120 actually can't. I can't partake. He's like, no, this is 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.120 how we're doing it, like in the butt. In the club, 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.600 I gotta skill out, I gotta leave, you know what 0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.560 I mean. But there's a lot of horny people. Yeah, 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:48.680 so that's how pimps actually got a honey. I gotta honey. 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.279 He he was kind of like kind of Timmy kind 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.480 of guy. Man. It wasn't really like aggressive with the ladies, 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.759 but then you know, he kind of had He's like 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:58.640 a rock star kind of the kind of world. It's 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:01.920 like ponytail ship like nigga and he wanted to hang 0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:03.239 out with us one night and I was like, dude, 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:05.560 you can't where we're going. You can't get down like that. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.920 So we literally sent the nigga somewhere he was He 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.120 wasn't from Okland, but he was passing through. We sent 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:12.759 the nigga down to where the pimps get their hair 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:14.440 downe and ship and got him a pimp hair due 0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:16.880 out of his you know, last we turn we turned 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.080 him into like on certain kind of clothes and then 0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:23.120 he got to the party. He's like, still the same nigga, Like, 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.200 what do I do? Said the way you look, just 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:28.760 walk up to every bit and say, I'm Mike bitch 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:37.920 a right right, Boris guess we came back and tell 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:39.720 me at the party later on, he said, nigga, that 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:43.240 ship works. You know, I'm gonna be honest. I hung 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.160 out with Bishop don for like a whole weekend. He 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:49.400 had me gass right. So what happened was they gave 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.800 me a famous player car. You remember the famished player car. 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:55.640 It's gold. They gave me won seven on there and 0:57:55.680 --> 0:58:01.200 they asked me to come to the play ball. I 0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.720 got there and then you know, I'm on I'm I'm 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:07.200 on road for real, like but I took two days 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:11.040 out of my schedule. I walked into players Um playing ship. 0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.560 It was a white bitch that was I'm walking in. 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.120 The white bitch said hey, how are you doing you? 0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:17.640 You know, I don't even know if she asked me 0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:19.640 to take a picture. She asked me something and I said, 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:25.760 bet you a better play I definitely didn't know, and 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.800 she chose me. I said, bet you better choose. I 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.760 don't know why I said that. In the b and 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:36.840 Bishop darma Um what's my nigga? Juju, pimp juju, all 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:38.959 of us trying to knock me. They said, your noriri, 0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.360 and then the white bitch kept saying about me, and 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.439 I said, I don't know what I did. I don't 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:46.760 know what I did. You didn't get the memo? And 0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:49.240 then get the memo the pimp correctly, and then I 0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.760 wanted to pass off, but she really didn't want to 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.640 be back. That nigga he got about. He always got 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.680 about five or six holes. His bitches gotta stare at 0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:59.360 the ground and can't look up that he now was 0:58:59.440 --> 0:59:02.160 what about like breaking down. It's kind of funny though, 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.720 because his bitches are sitting somewhere, even when they sit down, 0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:08.000 the whole Chinese. They can never look up. They have 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:09.960 to look at the ground, and they'd be sitting there 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.640 talking to each other. And then if you dare like, 0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:17.280 you know, I'm a little crazy guy. So I just 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:18.640 try to funk with him and break a little bit, 0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.800 like how y'all doing. They can't speak to no outside 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:26.480 man nothing. They can't crazy. That's him out. That's just 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:28.560 like you wearing your jury. He's wearing. He's showing you 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:30.680 his pimpen. He's like I could have told him, bitches 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.080 to look straight at here. I could have told him 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.640 just the circle down, look that, don't never look up, 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.280 don't talk to anybody except me or each other. I 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.480 ain't gonna lie. And that's just just how I knew 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:43.360 I I wasn't ready for Pippen because my white bitch 0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:48.440 did that. My white bitches just like she wouldn't say 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:51.840 I was prim jews ring pimpen kid and they both 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.880 accept to me and said, he said, you play. You 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:56.200 don't know what you're doing right now. I said, like God, 0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:58.760 I would't main leave alone, and she just kept looking. 0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.479 That's how I knew she was more spread. Nigga pimp 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:04.680 and nig have pamp game and are of it. We're doing. 1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:08.400 It's a difference pimping and having pimp game because I 1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:10.480 like the way you broke that's. Having pamp game means 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.200 that I probably could apply it. But I'm just I'm 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:16.200 doing another ship. I don't don't even stressful, man, stressful, 1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.280 break that down it Then you tell you're telling the 1:00:19.320 --> 1:00:21.520 woman to do the stuff she's doing. There are fucking 1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:25.160 like repercussions to that ship. Man, mentally, like if its 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:27.160 people's heads up. So you what doing with that ship 1:00:27.200 --> 1:00:29.720 because you're telling them to go on the call and 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:31.560 you're saying, don't funk with nobody with me. So when 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.640 every time every emotion she goes through is coming to you. 1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:37.040 So let me ask you something. After they do that 1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:40.080 they give you the money, do you have to make 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.560 them feel like your girlfriend? Like they gotta feel up, 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:45.920 you gotta do they go, You gotta do this ship. 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:48.360 It's a lot of ship. Like if you want to 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:50.400 really actually your chick, if you want to be a 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:52.320 boss pam you have to be focused. That's what you do. 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.520 I've never heard this term because you say boss pamp. Yeah, 1:00:55.560 --> 1:00:57.280 that means you're in control. You want to on a 1:00:57.400 --> 1:00:59.440 run for a while. You got you can go to 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.400 another state. But she's still You're still the boss pimper. 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.240 You know. They called that long range pamper her anywhere, 1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:11.440 hold on, hold on long range paper. I heard a 1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:14.280 long rage five your hold me over there be like 1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:18.920 long range in Hawaii. You fly back to l A 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:21.000 and you come back three months later. And she got 1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:24.560 like forty seven thousand and just be like here she did. 1:01:25.440 --> 1:01:29.280 She didn't protected the money, she didn't protected herself and now, now, 1:01:29.360 --> 1:01:31.400 do you have to have sex with these women or 1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:34.360 you just you could just so this this is where 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:36.640 I get sucked up. Bring it down for me short, 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:39.480 because I'm gonna let just called it the lame miss. Now. 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.200 I've always considered myself to be a pimp and a player. 1:01:43.280 --> 1:01:44.960 I do have the pimp game, but I don't want 1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:47.640 what is the difference with piper a player player? You 1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:49.080 just you got the game to just run a bunch 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:50.960 of chicks, but you don't want any interest in their 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:54.000 money or them selling that you're just a player. Okay, 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:58.960 get money, you're getting You're getting salad. Actually yeah, okay, 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:01.920 So I consider myself to be a pimper player. Man, 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:04.240 it's just like you know, I don't really Yeah, we 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:06.760 don't have to. Um sure, I'm not gonna lie. You 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:09.920 made me pop my collar like seventeen hundred times. I'm 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.680 gonna keep popping. We'll put that. You know, if you 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:15.320 got to really get a lot of games just playing back, 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.240 listen to it. It's you know the game in there, 1:02:18.280 --> 1:02:20.920 like you really studying it goes by Mary my Mama's 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:24.919 I'm a lame. I'm sorry, but but in my trying 1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.320 to be a pimp, like every time I go to sleep, like, yeah, 1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:29.600 I'm gonna try to. But we are we are always 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:33.560 students of life. We are get down, always learning, were 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:36.480 always learning. You know what I was gonna tell you 1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:43.000 by my Puerto Rican just in case you thought I 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.440 was Dominican. But it's okay. It's a New York story. 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:48.120 Many in New York. Let's do it, Let's do it. 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:52.680 But I was, you wouldn't baby Dominican reproblic I had 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:54.200 a little of New York too. I had a little 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:58.880 running with them with the hip hop. Holy sniggers, hit me, 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:02.560 hit me up in a taxi, abs and and just 1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:04.560 they had like we had to strap in the car 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:06.960 and we gotta like a little answer week. We used 1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:08.440 to go up to him. We used to go up 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.720 to the candy shop in Harlem and you know get 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:17.600 they got called it the candy shop. We know what, Yeah, 1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:19.600 and the jaws or in the motherfucker try and go 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:24.040 bang and look at my man, Eddie, God bless today. 1:03:24.080 --> 1:03:28.800 You know he died. Eddie looked first off, let me 1:03:28.880 --> 1:03:31.040 just let me just stop too short right now. He 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:34.360 just fossed onto everybody on a real New York and 1:03:34.520 --> 1:03:37.480 this is the in the real New York Times. He 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:46.520 just mentioned Branson. What you say daytime in Branson, Eddie Eddie, 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:51.040 that's who run the spot. That was my nigger continuous story. 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:53.840 So you know, we we we're riding around the ship 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.920 and the niggas pull us over and these sucking taxi cabs, 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:01.480 none of them got on uniforms, sucking up, flashing badges 1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:04.280 and ship. They actually take us out, put us. It's 1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:06.360 four niggas in the truck. They put each of us 1:04:06.720 --> 1:04:08.880 in a different cab. And I get in there, like 1:04:08.960 --> 1:04:12.360 three niggas in each cab. They jumped in my truck. 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:14.680 Drive the motherfucker and we go to like some thirty 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:17.800 seven street precincts, some ship somewhere every six thirty seven 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:25.120 and and uh and then and they get ended up basically, 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:26.960 and they ended up at a center street that one 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:33.040 street down there, and I passed by a you was 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:35.720 in the reel. That's the first first off, right now, 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:37.920 if they lock you up up there, they have a 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:40.240 preaching that they bring you to. That means that back 1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:42.000 in the days, they had to lock you up up 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:46.080 there and bring you own. So, yeah, we're in there. 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.040 Listen about a day and a half on the day. 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:51.240 Then they got built out little later. But I walked 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:56.160 by this one holding tank and I've seen these jet 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.760 jet black ass niggers, like black ass nappy head niggas 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:03.920 in and they're all speaking Spanish. And now this was 1:05:04.040 --> 1:05:05.600 like that ship weird to me, the funk out I 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:10.360 didn't know. I thought they was black. I didn't, I didn't. Yeah, 1:05:11.560 --> 1:05:13.640 on the West coast, on the West coast, we got 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:18.080 no nappy heads, don't have many. You don't see much yesterday, 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:20.560 but yesterday's black under me. I'm saying, we don't have 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:24.640 nappy head niggass, right, So I get back up, I 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:26.360 get out of jail, I go up to drive records. 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:28.160 I was like, I've seen the weirdest ship in jail. 1:05:30.520 --> 1:05:38.960 Speak Spanish here the Dominicans. That's too short, making goddamn 1:05:40.840 --> 1:05:45.760 hold on. After that, after that, I made a point, 1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:47.520 I said, I'm gonna meet some of these Spanish niggas, 1:05:47.560 --> 1:05:51.120 like for real. I meant that the Dominican niggas right 1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:53.920 at the gas chation and they popped at me. Up 1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:56.840 some man, we know you made me too short. You know, 1:05:57.080 --> 1:05:58.640 random ship that happens in New York I don't get 1:05:58.720 --> 1:06:00.680 spotted a lot back then, back to day in New York, 1:06:01.240 --> 1:06:03.880 and uh, they said that they got to get weed, 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:07.560 and they sent me up to um. I don't know, man, 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:16.280 I just you know, you get And then basically, if 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:18.080 I wasn't going to Branson, I was going up there, 1:06:18.120 --> 1:06:21.240 but I smoke New York. Last listen, let me tell 1:06:21.240 --> 1:06:24.440 you something. This this is now listen. Listen. Well he 1:06:24.560 --> 1:06:27.840 just broke down for you. There's people in New York 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.920 who couldn't get weed and Branson because you had to 1:06:31.000 --> 1:06:33.120 have a certain type of plot and to be accepted. 1:06:33.280 --> 1:06:36.320 You have to be accepted in Branson. One time I 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:40.200 went in Branson, Red Man was back there serving the weed. 1:06:40.360 --> 1:06:49.280 That man. Make some noise for red Man. Damn it on. 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:53.080 Sometimes you took me there, I was out, you know. 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:55.320 I'll tell you one time I went to Branson. I'm 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:57.840 gonna keep it real with you, too short. It's one 1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:00.400 of my idols. It's gonna hurt me to tell a story, 1:07:01.600 --> 1:07:04.040 but I'm gonna tell the story. I went up there. 1:07:04.080 --> 1:07:08.080 It's the Puerto Rican bree. I'm Puerto Rican. Sorry, I'm 1:07:08.120 --> 1:07:11.200 half Puerto Rican. But I'm just giving you. But you know, yeah, 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:13.400 thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So but 1:07:14.280 --> 1:07:17.400 this day I'm Puerto Rican, right, So I go to 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:20.240 Brant and I bought my ship. Bobby Brown pull up 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:22.200 in the six hundred bens. To me, it was like 1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:27.320 Prince when he pulled up, purple smoke pulled out. It 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:30.080 was a six DNS. I was like, damn, like you know, 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:32.760 I know niggas got six hundred beans is, but I 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:37.480 ain't actually seen it. Bobby Brown pulls up, right, bro ts, 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:40.720 what's something nigg So he pulls up boom, Bobby Brown 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:44.080 boss up. So he goes in Branson. I'm sitting there like, 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:49.080 oh ship, Bobby motherfucking Brown. He looked at me though, 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:51.960 he looked at me like a miss, like like I'm 1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:55.520 right here. He looked at me like this, and then 1:07:55.560 --> 1:07:58.920 he goes in Braston. Right. I'm like, damn, Nickas just 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:01.600 like you to say, like, I don't know the dig 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:05.280 eyes right next to my Chad. Right, Bobby Brown comes 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:08.120 out and then he goes, yo, it's the Portagan Day parade, right, 1:08:08.440 --> 1:08:11.840 I think me pun Joe, we all on the float 1:08:11.960 --> 1:08:14.120 this day, but I had took a break afterwards. I 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:16.439 finished what we had to do. When I went up 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:18.640 town and then Bobby Brown said to me, this is 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:23.000 mad racist, by the way, he said for me the racist. 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:26.240 He said to me, ain't you Puerto Rican? He said yeah, 1:08:26.479 --> 1:08:32.040 he said, you ain't got no cold coin. It was like, 1:08:32.240 --> 1:08:38.880 happens because you got You gotta realize in New York City, 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:40.680 if you're from New York City, it's a cup. There's 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:43.639 a couple of us here. When the port we parade 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:47.920 shut down, like uptown to the right, it's shut down too, 1:08:48.040 --> 1:08:51.840 because they all over there. And so when they went there, 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:54.400 I guess Bobby went there. He couldn't He couldn't get 1:08:54.479 --> 1:08:57.080 nothing from the coke spy. So he said you ain't 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.800 you ain't your Puerto Rican? And I'm like yeah, He's like, 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.519 take me over there. I was like, damn, why why 1:09:03.560 --> 1:09:05.880 do you think I could get you to coke because 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.200 of Buerto Rican? Let's make some noise your body bround 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:12.120 for being a wash that got bad. There's a positive 1:09:12.160 --> 1:09:14.280 side of that story. This was here. The positive. I mean, 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:17.760 he's who is he with? He was with his security? Okay, well, 1:09:17.760 --> 1:09:19.519 I know I know the nigga sometimes to be like 1:09:19.640 --> 1:09:22.439 without security with that same bands riding up in any 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:28.960 motherfucking head. Bobby takes a certain cloth to be that 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:30.640 kind of nigga, to be that kind of nigga. You 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:32.920 know what I'm saying. You said, come on, we would 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:35.559 have went with you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm luckily I did 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:38.479 because which is my hero? Like you know, I'm younger 1:09:38.880 --> 1:09:44.760 because I'm younger at this Brown, listen, we need if 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:48.080 we had him, wherever you at, we need you too, 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:50.600 Shortest in the head man, I'm telling the Bobby is 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:53.960 a classic man, He's a classic. He's always be my nigga. 1:09:54.080 --> 1:09:57.400 I remember with Jarro was actually from the video um 1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:02.880 uh when Jah and Brown and I Actually I was 1:10:02.920 --> 1:10:05.000 in l A. He was at that video. No, I 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:18.400 wasn't not The video was video the Ecstacy videos. Exstacy 1:10:18.479 --> 1:10:28.639 was ruling ship at one point. Let's white girl go listen, 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.800 short man, I really appreciate you for coming out in 1:10:31.880 --> 1:10:34.040 a great sport. Are you gonna dread the champagne with us? 1:10:34.560 --> 1:10:38.519 And I keep it hard? You keep Paul? What are 1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:42.160 you doing? What is that my time? For? Now? We 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:45.400 might we switched this a little. This is little raguls. 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:48.160 We switched. I want to have a one with short 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:51.559 excuse me, wrong, shot outside ball. You know you got 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:57.600 you got the other rout wet that's my brother. We 1:10:57.640 --> 1:10:59.639 gotta shot a slottle pope man for making this happen. 1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:03.280 Can we get two buckets and pineapples because I gotta 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:07.280 have a drink with uh um? She got close to 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:11.479 pinteapple like apple. Alright, it works for me. So too 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:14.880 short man. You've been coming to Miami for a long time, 1:11:15.760 --> 1:11:18.639 with Miami to you know Luke Stories, no to life. Yeah, 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:21.639 Luke Man, I've been on I've been on the goddamn 1:11:21.920 --> 1:11:25.559 Luke's Peep Show twice me Back and the how Can 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:28.840 I Be Downdays? But how did you feel with Luke? 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:31.640 They try to parent your vis with him because you 1:11:31.880 --> 1:11:33.640 had to be right behind him. If they would have 1:11:33.760 --> 1:11:36.720 did that to you know, did that to you? You know, 1:11:36.960 --> 1:11:38.679 just like you said, you see me walking through smooth. 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:40.720 I walked through that ship, real smooth. They never came 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:43.400 nucking at my door. They w ain't they sucking get 1:11:43.479 --> 1:11:47.400 up boys. They were laughing and they never royal. They 1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:49.360 never holloed at me. I don't even make some noise 1:11:49.400 --> 1:11:55.519 for too short for escaping. Never I couldn't remember. They 1:11:55.640 --> 1:11:59.720 never like what's what's the chick name that that two 1:12:03.720 --> 1:12:05.599 she was? She was she was trying to shut everybody 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:07.080 and never had my name on the least. They were 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:09.519 talking about the ship I was doing, which if they 1:12:09.560 --> 1:12:11.560 would have passed some laws, they probably would have affected me. 1:12:11.640 --> 1:12:14.240 But I don't know what to think about this. What 1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:18.120 do you think about the fact that that ship could 1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:19.479 have actually happened. Would if it have been like we 1:12:19.600 --> 1:12:21.160 lived in the country where they said you can't custom 1:12:21.200 --> 1:12:23.360 your rap songs have been crazy? It would have been 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:27.680 like existed. We would have never assisted. I would have 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.120 never That's how I think about it. It would have 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:31.880 been like blueleg and liquor. We would have been out 1:12:31.880 --> 1:12:34.040 there in the streets slinging dirty raps. It would have 1:12:34.080 --> 1:12:36.720 been more expensive, maybe make more money it. It would 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:45.919 have been money that like the prohibitions straight up. Welcome 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:49.320 to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:53.760 personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it 1:12:54.000 --> 1:12:58.559 at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio 1:12:58.760 --> 1:13:04.960 with Rapper and or DJ. Then and you Still, I 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:07.240 just like to ask you this question before we wrap 1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:11.160 it up. Still actually love this life? I swear to 1:13:11.240 --> 1:13:13.640 God you see to this face. Man, you still like 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.840 did you? You never fell in love with this life 1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:21.360 for I don't love Excuse me, I'm gonna tell you 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:23.760 like this, man, I ain't really like to fun with 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:25.680 the jail and all that. Like you. You just came 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:29.080 home like I was only jail five weeks. Neiggo make 1:13:29.160 --> 1:13:35.479 some noise for you still go to jail, but you're 1:13:35.479 --> 1:13:38.519 still going to you Okay, you know what I didn't. 1:13:38.560 --> 1:13:41.240 I didn't go to jails, young nigga. I was. I was. 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:46.400 You went to jails grown as man, and how I 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:48.800 was your bunkies there had to be like too short 1:13:49.160 --> 1:13:52.519 watch out too short at Yeah, you gotta go look 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.280 my nigga. Up the nigger that was next to me. Uh, 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:58.080 he's a he's got a high profile case in l A. 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:01.400 They called the grim Sleeper. That doesn't even sound right. 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:06.680 It sounds dangerous. Just breakdown the grand sleep extremely like 1:14:06.840 --> 1:14:12.280 brother intelligent, talk to you the dangerous guy whatever. The 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:16.800 guy's respectful. How to cook with just some hot water 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:19.320 and ship? You know you know what I mean? We 1:14:19.600 --> 1:14:21.680 we wasn't. I was in with the celebrity ship though, 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:24.320 where you can't at you know, Nick, Nick can't actually 1:14:24.360 --> 1:14:26.760 was up on you and ship right, I I was 1:14:26.840 --> 1:14:32.160 just chilling. But talk about that guy. Don't get up. 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:35.120 He's I just gave you and and and he helped. 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:37.200 He was in It was on me. He was on 1:14:37.320 --> 1:14:40.840 me because he was because he was high profile. Yeah, yea, 1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:42.600 that's where the high profile person. That's what I was 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:44.920 saying that I was in the same spot sugar Knight 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:48.560 was that previously for me to getting there. There was 1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:50.280 a room with suk Knight. Try to sign you at 1:14:50.360 --> 1:14:54.759 one point, should try to sign everybody. Tell me about 1:14:54.800 --> 1:14:58.679 that short before you leave from the bay too. Yeah. Yeah. 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:00.120 They put me in the jail with Chris Brown. Was 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:01.920 that the ship that was in that jail. It was 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:04.920 just chilled jilin the TV right, Frenk and Sell, you know, 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:09.760 just nobody with you. But sug Knight came to me 1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:11.720 like he came to everybody else. You know, I'm doing 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:13.920 my own thing. I'm independent. You know, I've never I've 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:16.640 never had a boss. I've never been signing nobody. And 1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:22.880 he just said, um, he said, the West Coast is 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:25.439 he said, death Row is home to the West Coast. 1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:31.000 It's like, I'm like, you know, you knew it was 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:33.880 going to. He's like, he's like, man, come on over 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:36.360 the death I'll get you off job. Come on, just 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:38.080 said that one more time. How you said it? Come on, 1:15:38.160 --> 1:15:45.240 come on over the death row. He said, come on 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:47.360 over to the death Rock. So you know I'm not 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:50.360 a scary nigga, because I was the real nigga that 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:52.720 we have no reason to be scared. And then, um, 1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:57.640 I'm a smart nigga. But where's this. We're in a 1:15:57.680 --> 1:16:01.840 fucking nightclub in Atlanta and wait, we shore was in 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:04.479 Atlanta and you was running Atlanta at that time. Because 1:16:04.520 --> 1:16:08.000 usually I was a factor in the city. I wasn't. Okay, 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:11.800 come on over to the death roll. Yeah, and it 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:13.479 wasn't me. It wasn't me. In a bully he was 1:16:13.520 --> 1:16:15.320 saying that ship like two niggs talking. He was like, 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:17.840 you know, actually a cool dude that he was being. 1:16:18.360 --> 1:16:19.920 I could see it that it was like a push 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:21.760 kind of because then I actually kind of probably put 1:16:21.800 --> 1:16:23.800 a little weight, like you know, he didn't didn't. It 1:16:23.920 --> 1:16:25.640 wasn't no kind of threat, but he kind of like 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:27.439 I felt a little weight. But I think it was 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:30.479 like at the time he said it, so it's kind 1:16:30.479 --> 1:16:32.320 of pushing up on me a little bit, but in 1:16:32.400 --> 1:16:35.880 a friendly kind of way. And I just said, I 1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:38.600 was like, man, I ain't trying. I ain't trying to 1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:40.439 wrap no more. Man, I'm starting to leg what about 1:16:40.439 --> 1:16:42.200 to do my labor. That's where I'm at right now. 1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.240 I ain't trying to wrap no more. But you know, 1:16:44.400 --> 1:16:47.519 it was like nineteen nineties five or some ship. It's 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:52.439 because I also heard jay Z try to sign you too. 1:16:53.080 --> 1:16:55.080 Now that Jay never tried to sign j J just 1:16:55.200 --> 1:16:56.640 was I was coming to do some work with him. 1:16:56.760 --> 1:16:59.439 Oh yeah, so that that room was false. He never 1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:02.800 tried to sign I probably would have probably probably would 1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:04.160 have went that route because just you know, just to 1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:09.120 be around. They respect you like a mother. Everybody respect you. Short. 1:17:09.200 --> 1:17:11.200 Just in case you don't know, let me let me 1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:14.040 just let me just tell you you are well respected, 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:19.240 well connected. We love you. On the East coast to 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:24.360 the West coast round man down south. You are a 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:28.720 guy who laid out the platform for all of us 1:17:28.800 --> 1:17:30.920 to do it. You're still as cool as hell. I 1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:33.320 can't believe how cool you are. It was a motherfucker. 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:36.040 I'm gonna be honest. When the interview is over, I'm 1:17:36.080 --> 1:17:37.720 just gonna ask you how can I be as cool 1:17:37.800 --> 1:17:39.640 as you? That's all I want to do, Like I 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.120 want to ask you because you're the coolest guy. You're 1:17:43.200 --> 1:17:47.840 like how you do that? And you still love the game. 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:51.599 I gotta keep asking you in different ways, like why 1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:55.120 would you were the guy to say selling? Man? I 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:56.800 told you. I used to be in the studio with 1:17:56.840 --> 1:17:59.120 the o G my first studio experience with some old 1:17:59.479 --> 1:18:02.439 professional niggas. And these niggas had some of them, you know, 1:18:02.640 --> 1:18:04.800 was in it, some of them that came and went 1:18:04.920 --> 1:18:06.400 and you know that they talked about the days and 1:18:06.439 --> 1:18:07.840 they toured the world and it was in the band 1:18:07.920 --> 1:18:10.680 or whatever, and the niggas said, um. One of the 1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:12.800 niggas was one of the members of the Dramatics. He 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:14.560 was one of the niggas, but he was one of 1:18:14.560 --> 1:18:16.880 the niggas that got kicked out the group. And he 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:20.120 experienced a few hit records and and you know, the 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.000 nigga tour and then and then the ship left him 1:18:22.760 --> 1:18:26.240 and he was like, man, he was like, dude, whatever 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:27.680 you do. He was like, he said, I feel like 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.160 you're gonna be somebody. He was like yeah, he was like, 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:33.080 whatever you do, you make it. He said, don't forget 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:35.439 to have fun. And I kind of like took that 1:18:35.560 --> 1:18:37.720 ship life. I just kind of like took that ship 1:18:37.800 --> 1:18:40.960 and kind of adapted it in my own way that Okay, 1:18:41.040 --> 1:18:43.360 we're going on our first tour. We you know, Niggas 1:18:43.400 --> 1:18:45.880 is out there deep deeper ship because it is out 1:18:45.880 --> 1:18:49.160 there complaining, fucking you know. I mean we we we 1:18:49.520 --> 1:18:52.360 love LLL but l L used to not talk to 1:18:52.479 --> 1:18:55.519 rappers and didn't want to be friends with you. I'm 1:18:55.560 --> 1:18:57.719 talking about I don't get worry. He was from niggas, 1:18:57.720 --> 1:18:59.360 Like I don't like rappers. He wouldn't hang out. I've 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:04.000 been on triple of that. Hell, oh my god, he 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:05.760 would have. He had a rig so that he could 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:07.719 get from his dress room to the stage. You couldn't 1:19:07.720 --> 1:19:11.599 even he wouldn't even see him. He was different ways 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:13.880 of getting there and ship. Man. But I'm just saying that. 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:15.560 I just I was the opposite of that type of 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.080 ship where I just was like, man, I'm about to 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:20.000 go and everybody's dressing room, we're gonna smoke, We're gonna 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:22.080 chop out. You know what I'm saying. I'm with everybody 1:19:22.280 --> 1:19:24.720 you know that's been the room about you is like 1:19:25.840 --> 1:19:29.719 tracks to do A show fifteen thousand Motherfucker's in the crowd. 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:33.160 I would get off stage, and then I was on tour, 1:19:33.240 --> 1:19:34.840 like the first show I went on n w A, 1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:38.000 the one in the movie straight out. Let's break that 1:19:38.080 --> 1:19:43.000 down because you can't. You're saying it very non obs 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:46.200 but he said, it's so too cool. He said, one 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:50.600 of the listen, listen, this is this is crazy, this 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:57.599 set that whole era you was on that tour. I'm 1:19:57.680 --> 1:19:59.439 the group that went on right before n w A. 1:20:00.200 --> 1:20:02.160 Easy he called me, was like, let's go to you 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:11.479 seem right there. You make me forget my story down. 1:20:12.240 --> 1:20:16.400 He went on tour with n w WAY that that 1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:18.400 was your first you know. He was talking about how 1:20:18.439 --> 1:20:20.559 you interact with the crowd. Yeah, I'm telling I used 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:24.720 to go on stage do my show Motherfucker's, and right 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:26.639 after I get out stage, I grabbed one of the homies. 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:29.200 Because you bring too many, or you bring security or something, 1:20:29.240 --> 1:20:31.920 you're gonna cause a cause of fuss. Right after the show, 1:20:32.040 --> 1:20:33.840 in between my show and n w A, I would 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:36.639 walk through the whole crowd, lights on, walk through people. 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:38.439 You know, back then thinks don't have a camera phone. 1:20:38.920 --> 1:20:40.880 I think it wouldn't need to have a pen. I 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:43.080 think you just you just would like just be like man, 1:20:43.479 --> 1:20:46.240 you know, because hey, what's up? And I just to 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:47.560 this one I pound I just want to give you. 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.200 People would say, well your security. I like you my security. 1:20:50.560 --> 1:20:52.880 He's gonna do something to me, like you know, you 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:55.240 know Reggie m did that ship and Keith Murray man 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:59.040 think that is security. Nothing. They just walk around any 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:01.559 fucking crowd. I do the same ship. I just test 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:04.880 it out that I've never no but short you was 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:09.880 a like a king man of a whole coast. It's 1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:13.800 different and you still to this day walk around the 1:21:13.920 --> 1:21:18.040 same way. It's because it's the love. Man, it's the love. 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:20.080 You'd be somewhere and makes a noise for the love. 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:24.600 Let's makes your noise for the love. Hey, you'd be 1:21:24.760 --> 1:21:28.639 somewhere and somebody said, hey, man, you did you did something. Something. 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:32.599 You made a song with my little brother and something something, 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:34.200 just you made a song with my little brother. Something 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:37.120 random mass rappers somewhere, niggas like nigga, all these nigs 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.600 over here, these my niggas. You're getting here because I 1:21:39.640 --> 1:21:41.320 made a song with his little brother. Right, so we 1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:44.080 get that night. Now you've always been good, Mr Lloyd. 1:21:44.280 --> 1:21:45.840 I don't know what kind of well, I don't know 1:21:46.000 --> 1:21:50.200 what kind of deal you made regard but listen, I 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:52.760 don't I don't care where neighborhood is. That it's the 1:21:52.840 --> 1:21:56.439 pay for philosophy. Man, you gotta pay you. But you 1:21:56.600 --> 1:21:58.320 learned a lot of ship in life. But I'm just 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:00.800 talking about the knowledge. I'm talking about material things. I'm 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.760 just talking about the knowledge. You got to give it 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:05.760 to everybody who deserves it. Man, you learned a lot 1:22:05.800 --> 1:22:08.320 of ship. I feel like niggas could have gave me 1:22:08.320 --> 1:22:10.840 a lot of you know, short cuts couldn't helped me 1:22:10.880 --> 1:22:13.639 when I was a young nigga. You know they didn't 1:22:13.640 --> 1:22:15.760 help you, So you now you want to help other people. Yeah, 1:22:15.800 --> 1:22:17.439 but you know if some people didn't help you, gotta 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:19.880 you're gonna have this live and learn ship. Everybody got 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:21.880 to go through their journey, but help niggas. Then this 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:24.120 fact came a little bit. I think we gotta make 1:22:24.240 --> 1:22:30.639 noise for help niggas. Help niggas, help motherfucking niggas. Man, listen, 1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:35.360 and you know what's short. You're such a great guy, yo. 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:38.439 When you was on job, I believe you called me. 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:40.840 I did a record with you for your album. Correct, 1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:42.679 I forget what's the name of the album? I forget 1:22:46.600 --> 1:22:52.439 that's what it has on point trying to hold on 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:54.960 with my job. Wasn't that you can't funk with us? 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:59.600 Who was on there with He just came on to 1:22:59.800 --> 1:23:02.200 care So you just like sucking with street niggers because 1:23:02.600 --> 1:23:04.120 how did you know the funk with me? Because I 1:23:04.200 --> 1:23:06.320 was a foul nigger at that time? You still I 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:09.240 might have been I might have been plotting hum, but 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:11.400 I was a foul nigger at the point. The point 1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:14.040 of the song was nigga nigga who are reptable in 1:23:14.040 --> 1:23:16.880 their own are right, that's just And it was like, 1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:19.240 you know because I was so I was, I was 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:21.559 so honest, but I was like, do he know him? 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:25.960 Because you can might shoot somebody without leaving. You can't 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:27.679 make a statement. You can't sunk with us if there's 1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:32.600 no us you have you knew man, knew what you do. 1:23:32.680 --> 1:23:35.080 And then Pete Poblo did the jail time like this 1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:38.479 is I know in North Carolina where he's from, the 1:23:38.560 --> 1:23:43.000 city rides with them. That's the city I have. I've 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:45.280 done concerts like you know, you go to a city 1:23:45.320 --> 1:23:48.120 probably like I don't have two hour driving where you're from. 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:50.719 I've done concerts and took them. They're all of Oakland 1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:54.680 with me. We show up a thousand deep and they're like, uh, 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:59.400 you know, we're all coming in, motherfucking we do They 1:23:59.439 --> 1:24:01.000 still do that of this day? Yeah, we did this 1:24:01.120 --> 1:24:03.640 day this day. I'm a father nigger like that. They 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:05.840 asked me how many that guy be? Like four? And 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.560 then when I show up it would be like like 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:13.320 I said for I said for four hunters, like yeah, 1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:15.680 but too short, man. I can't thank you enough. So 1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:18.599 I'm coming out sitting down, you know, being a great 1:24:18.640 --> 1:24:21.360 sport about it. All this is about is just hip 1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:24.519 hop fans getting to understand and and and and hear 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:28.000 these stories. But before you go, I want to say, 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:30.840 how did you and eat forty? Everhead ook up because 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:38.320 he's another yeah forty and because that's that's still your 1:24:38.360 --> 1:24:40.519 younger Homi. Yeah, I a little I got about a 1:24:40.520 --> 1:24:45.800 couple forty and his brother d Shot was in the game. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:49.800 They were treat niggas and you know, they dabbled, they 1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:52.519 they moved some way around. So that that's what that 1:24:52.640 --> 1:24:56.799 will mean. Learned something today. Let's makes ar something today, 1:24:57.600 --> 1:25:00.639 goddamn it. But I probably did a little more than Land. 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:04.559 That was just damage, just playing. I was just trying 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:09.120 to be a PC alright, ok. So um, they actually 1:25:09.240 --> 1:25:11.639 used to do business with my niggas who I wrote 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.400 with to this day. My nigga niga is my niggas. 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:17.160 They was they was Yxta's getting money together. So there's 1:25:17.160 --> 1:25:19.640 a thing in the bay where you kind of um, 1:25:20.720 --> 1:25:22.960 you know, we we're over here in Oakland, thirty miles 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:25.920 over in Valetoff these Valetot niggas and these Oakland niggas 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:28.200 is like, all right, we're gonna get down together. Then 1:25:28.200 --> 1:25:32.240 you got a city like Richmond, and yeah, so Richmond 1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:34.840 Nigga and Oakland nigs is like really funk with each other. 1:25:35.160 --> 1:25:37.479 No gangship, but it's just like we're just a little 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:39.360 too wild to be friends because it never it never 1:25:39.439 --> 1:25:41.439 turns out good y'all too wild to be friends with us. 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:43.840 We two out, so we kind of try to either 1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:46.600 avoid each other or it's just it's just it's just 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:50.719 mani mani actions. So um. So valleto Nigga and Oakland 1:25:50.760 --> 1:25:52.880 nig has always been like kind of like sister city 1:25:52.920 --> 1:25:55.560 type ship. So we niggas fun with us, and E 1:25:55.720 --> 1:25:57.880 forty was my homie forever and ever and ever and ever. 1:25:58.200 --> 1:25:59.960 But we never made songs together. We just we were 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:02.280 just homies. We're the same. We see each other, the clicks, 1:26:02.360 --> 1:26:04.800 everybody know each other, all these little brothers. I know 1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:06.560 his sister, I know the whole ship. Before we have 1:26:06.640 --> 1:26:09.680 made a song. And we did a concert one of 1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:14.560 those radio stations, Summer Jams, Summer Jam, Summer Jam, and 1:26:14.640 --> 1:26:20.080 the niggas. Um they had, uh you ever heard the loonies. Okay, 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:26.800 so the loonies had, of course, loonies, my homies, my 1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:30.960 young homies. They come from the cloth man, they come 1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:33.200 from what I'm what I'm from the trinkle Down. The 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.439 game the niggas put out their records was my homies, 1:26:35.479 --> 1:26:37.519 they love flag, he said to trinkle Down that was. 1:26:38.360 --> 1:26:39.920 I don't know what that means, but I'm gonna take it. 1:26:43.800 --> 1:26:46.840 They come from that. So um. So the Loonies had 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:48.760 this song. I was called player hater, and they say 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:51.080 they was mad at me about this whole story. I 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:52.560 can't tell you. They was mad at me on some 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:56.120 on some inside ship, and they said some ship about me. 1:26:56.200 --> 1:26:58.680 The song. They said, that's why the town got rid 1:26:58.720 --> 1:27:00.880 of short And they said it a year after I 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.599 moved to Atlanta. So they insinuated and started this little 1:27:03.640 --> 1:27:05.920 buzz that maybe the Loonies was like, nigga, you gotta 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:07.679 move out of town. Nigga, you can't be in Oakland 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:10.040 no more. There's some ship. So I'm in Atlanta, having 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.759 the time of my life, still mad as fucking this bullshit. 1:27:13.400 --> 1:27:16.240 So the radio station is holding what would be the 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:19.200 hot ninety seven Summer Jazz. It's one of those, one 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:22.040 of those six in Atlanta and in uh In in Oakland, 1:27:22.280 --> 1:27:25.000 in the Bay it's it's a K one on six 1:27:25.320 --> 1:27:28.320 summer Jam. And I'm I'm the nigga who the radio 1:27:28.400 --> 1:27:31.200 station came to when they first started doing summer Jam 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:33.360 and said, hey, we need to like get some urban support. 1:27:33.400 --> 1:27:35.120 Can you be on the show. And I'm like, coo, 1:27:35.160 --> 1:27:37.840 I'm with you. So I'm like feeling like this kind 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:39.880 of the supposed to be my friends. I helped these niggas. 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:43.599 But there's a rock station turned into an urban station, 1:27:43.720 --> 1:27:45.320 and they asked niggas like me, can you come and 1:27:45.400 --> 1:27:47.360 help us? Went over the community. So I'm like that 1:27:47.360 --> 1:27:49.840 should means something. And they played this record and put 1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:51.920 in the rotation where it said that's why the town 1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:56.360 got rid of short one line and yeah, and I'm like, 1:27:56.680 --> 1:27:58.519 I'm like a nigga like this. I'm like, nigga, you 1:27:58.560 --> 1:28:01.080 don't it's not it's not it's zero disrespect. It's not 1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:03.400 gonna happen. It's just not. We don't walk away from 1:28:03.439 --> 1:28:06.320 this ship. I'm not gonna rap about you. So, nigga, 1:28:06.439 --> 1:28:08.960 something's gonna happen. So I called the radio station. I 1:28:09.040 --> 1:28:11.280 was like, yeah, I'm coming to the concert. They didn't 1:28:11.280 --> 1:28:13.280 want me on the show. Of course. They told me, 1:28:13.800 --> 1:28:15.479 you know, I moved to Atlanta. We kind of like 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:17.840 supporting the local artists and ship you moved away. So 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:19.679 I'm like, I just want to come to see the show. 1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:25.160 They gave me four sticker passes. Nigga. We rolled up 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:29.880 there about sixty niggas, four niggas in, one nigga out, 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:32.680 four more niggas in, one nigga out. He came up 1:28:32.720 --> 1:28:44.760 with three passes. Three yeah. Side. Before they realize what 1:28:44.840 --> 1:28:47.639 had happened, we sixty East Oakland niggas in the concert. 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:50.120 No othensation. Were just in there, nigga, and we've been 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:53.439 we're being real cool. We ain't got no problem, but 1:28:53.479 --> 1:28:57.000 it's sixty niggas, sixty grimey niggas, and I'm requesting ship. 1:28:57.439 --> 1:28:59.720 I'm like, Nigga, I need for y'all to walk me 1:28:59.800 --> 1:29:02.200 out on the stage and tell the crowd. Me and 1:29:02.200 --> 1:29:04.200 the Looney's gonna tell the crowd it ain't nune but loved, 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:06.640 and we just it just had to happen. And they 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:08.040 was like, oh, we're gonna do this and this and 1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:10.080 this and that, and they wouldn't do it. And I'm 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:13.240 like the loonies was with it. They have the little homies. 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:16.080 They they talked to your mouth. They walked up to 1:29:16.160 --> 1:29:17.840 us and they was like, man, what we gotta do whatever? 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.240 The concert people wouldn't wouldn't let it happen. I'm like, 1:29:21.360 --> 1:29:23.519 we gotta kill this motherucking ship. Ain't nobody tell him 1:29:23.520 --> 1:29:25.679 what The Loonies is my enemies and we've running away 1:29:25.680 --> 1:29:27.479 and we're gonna just walk out and just say it's 1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:30.000 just love. That's all I wanted to tell the people. 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:32.120 And it was like, no, I wouldn't do it. So 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:36.599 we we said that let me let us how the manager, 1:29:36.720 --> 1:29:39.679 the manager nigga, my nigga sees my nigga is my homie, 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:42.240 and we went in this back room were supposed to 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:45.080 be hollering, and one of the concert promoters, we're back there, 1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:48.639 and then the ship get out of hand. Thinks lumped 1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:52.200 up the Looney's manager a little bit, and we didn't 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:54.760 know this is what was going through. So then they 1:29:54.880 --> 1:29:56.800 got lumped up and curled all up and ship and 1:29:56.840 --> 1:29:58.560 all this ship and it wasn't even really asked for. 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:03.240 It was just like a blue blue blue Mr bullshit. 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:05.920 So we walked out. Now we got the mob. The 1:30:06.000 --> 1:30:08.640 mob is not satisfied. They like kind of hungry. And 1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:10.160 then we walked through the crowd and we're just like, 1:30:10.240 --> 1:30:13.240 we're not doing nothing to nobody, but we're just not 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:16.400 happy and we're kind of moving around. And then just 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:18.759 we went and we went and took a little section 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:20.400 and then you know, you could make niggas like to 1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:22.800 take their ship. We took a little section. We're gonna 1:30:22.800 --> 1:30:24.960 watch the next act. Somebody come on the scene. And 1:30:25.040 --> 1:30:27.600 then everybody that was just the powers that be just 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:30.160 didn't like what they saw. They just didn't like it 1:30:30.240 --> 1:30:32.799 that they just it was just nervousness, and they canceled 1:30:32.800 --> 1:30:35.240 the show. They canceled. Like the last two acts they canceled. 1:30:35.520 --> 1:30:37.360 It must have been like the Isley Brothers and E 1:30:37.520 --> 1:30:43.720 forty forty was headlining, had never met was home. We 1:30:43.840 --> 1:30:48.640 was home and they canceled the show. E forty has 1:30:48.680 --> 1:30:51.519 spent like maybe like you know, a lot of grip 1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:54.280 on some special show he was gonna do with the 1:30:54.360 --> 1:30:56.880 big show of the summer, and they canceled him. And 1:30:56.920 --> 1:30:58.880 they went and totally, nigger, we canceled you because it's 1:30:58.880 --> 1:31:02.920 too short. Mind you weren't We wasn't fighting, We wasn't mobby, 1:31:02.960 --> 1:31:05.200 weren't people. We just we just kind of like did 1:31:05.280 --> 1:31:08.240 the little thing in the back back area and left 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:10.960 watching the show. But they're nervous that they couldn't control 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:14.040 this ship. But you guys had not met E forty 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:18.080 prior to wrap. I knew forty before we was wrapped. 1:31:18.120 --> 1:31:19.960 I know why. We early days, the early days, we 1:31:20.120 --> 1:31:22.439 was just like what's up. Like it wasn't back in 1:31:22.479 --> 1:31:25.640 the day, niggas didn't wrapped together exactly. It's like a 1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:30.000 record with you weren't That wasn't even an idea. We 1:31:30.080 --> 1:31:32.200 just was what's up and we hang out whatever. We 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:34.559 was tied a little bit with his little brother. That's 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:39.840 my niggat, my niggas. No these shots for the click, 1:31:39.880 --> 1:31:43.600 they was in the click. So Monday morning comes the 1:31:43.840 --> 1:31:46.439 radio station. The show was probably like Saturday or Sunday. 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:50.719 Monday morning comes the radio station does a fake caller 1:31:51.240 --> 1:31:54.519 pretended to be too short, and the nigga calls up. 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:56.960 It's like, nig nigga, niggas didn't want to let me 1:31:57.000 --> 1:31:59.840 on stage. Nigga, I don't given it was forty one 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:01.640 house and short, don't get on stay no way. The 1:32:01.760 --> 1:32:05.000 niggas calling talking ship on the morning show phone start 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:09.280 this way was probably going by then, Okay, cool, and 1:32:09.400 --> 1:32:12.280 they're doing this joke. But at the same time, it's 1:32:12.280 --> 1:32:15.120 a bit down there. That's the program director or something. 1:32:15.200 --> 1:32:17.960 This bitch is sending out factors and emails saying too 1:32:18.040 --> 1:32:21.519 short is violent Bannon nigga from Wrap and don't ever 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:24.160 play his music, all kinds of ships. So I'm like 1:32:24.720 --> 1:32:27.519 trying to blackball. So I'm like, I'm taking this ship personal. 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:29.560 Then then the fucking phone rings. I don't even know 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:30.920 the ship was on the air. I don't even know. 1:32:31.400 --> 1:32:33.720 E forty called me. He was like, Nigga, was you 1:32:33.760 --> 1:32:36.320 on the radio? This morning. I'm like, no, nigga. He's like, Nigga, 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:38.439 you didn't do to say such something. I'm like no, man. 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:41.840 So the niggas like we stand up niggas. Nigga said, 1:32:41.920 --> 1:32:43.880 so you're telling me you didn't all the radio sing 1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:46.759 and say, I said, Nigga, I don't know. He said, okay, 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:48.760 and then he started spending the game to theft. He's 1:32:48.800 --> 1:32:50.760 a real game, that nigga. So he started spending like 1:32:50.840 --> 1:32:53.320 the radio stations trying to play games with us, blah blah, 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:55.439 this and that. He's like, man, these folks, you know, 1:32:55.600 --> 1:32:57.519 we start talking about how much money he spent on 1:32:57.640 --> 1:32:59.559 his set. They didn't get into the show, and they 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:01.920 personally told him it's too short fall. He was like, man, 1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:03.680 we're not finn turnus in the name because we know 1:33:03.760 --> 1:33:06.200 who we are. Your niggas mind niggas. We know we're 1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:08.160 not gonna do that. He said, let's get in the 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:10.240 studio and make some music. We made a song called 1:33:10.320 --> 1:33:13.160 rappers Ball, and it's like it was like a big 1:33:13.200 --> 1:33:15.479 record for that's the first record we ever made, and 1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:18.720 big city, big record for the Bay. Yeah, it was. 1:33:18.800 --> 1:33:21.679 It was huge and it went everywhere and and basically 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:25.200 the ship of of of you know, corporate type structure 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:27.280 of motherfucker's in the office room. Trying to play some 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:29.599 real niggas against each other kind of made us tighter 1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:31.800 than we've ever been, and we kind of we were 1:33:31.840 --> 1:33:34.160 we were cool as fun. But after that, we made 1:33:34.240 --> 1:33:36.800 record after record after record. We started talking on the 1:33:36.840 --> 1:33:39.120 phone every other day. Were kind of like walking each 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:41.439 other through each other's albums and ship. Niggers don't know, 1:33:42.479 --> 1:33:44.280 we was on drive and we never really dropped in 1:33:44.320 --> 1:33:49.559 the same quarter. So we would be like both we'd 1:33:49.600 --> 1:33:52.840 be critiquing each other's albums while we're making them. I'm like, yeah, 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:55.600 you're feeling hit him hard and hell yeah, like and 1:33:55.680 --> 1:33:57.920 then I'm listening to him going, shoot, I gotta get 1:33:57.920 --> 1:34:00.720 there and go hard because about to knock me off, 1:34:00.800 --> 1:34:04.160 you know. So we kind of being friends and competitors, 1:34:04.200 --> 1:34:07.280 we kind of held each other down on keeping it 1:34:07.439 --> 1:34:10.960 keeping that ship hardcore, Like like wow, real, So before 1:34:11.000 --> 1:34:12.800 we get up out of here, was you in the 1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:16.720 session with Big when you made the record? When the 1:34:16.800 --> 1:34:19.760 Rimmys in my system, ain't no telling that I was 1:34:19.800 --> 1:34:22.000 in the room. I was in the room, and it 1:34:22.160 --> 1:34:25.000 was in the room. Yeah, that's when the legs was hurting. 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:28.280 Should he be sitting down and wrapping and ship? Hell? Yeah? 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:31.360 And then how about with Jay did y'all sitting up session? 1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:34.320 I did that session with Jay. It was all good. 1:34:34.439 --> 1:34:37.680 Just a week ago I did that ship Um, I 1:34:37.800 --> 1:34:40.439 did the other song I re member. I was on Uh, 1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:44.479 real niggas do real things, all all the words. I 1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:46.720 was on that show. He really wanted Scarface on that song. 1:34:47.400 --> 1:34:50.160 And and back then the niggas, Uh, it was that 1:34:50.200 --> 1:34:52.800 ship where the niggas just love Tupacs so much. It 1:34:52.960 --> 1:34:55.080 was like you g K and Nick. Certain thing is 1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:57.479 they love Tupacs so much. They're like, man, I ain't 1:34:57.479 --> 1:34:59.360 work with nobody from New York. I just it was 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:02.240 just it was, let me stop you right there. We 1:35:02.439 --> 1:35:08.160 love short New York. He's trying to be humble right now. 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:11.800 He humble, But look, I used to be tellings like this. Man. 1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:15.000 I talked to the niggas car phase all the real talk. 1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:17.200 Back in the day. I'm like, nigga, go to New York. 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:19.720 It's gonna take your career to a new level. Them 1:35:19.800 --> 1:35:22.240 niggas funk with you, and we didn't, we didn't know. 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.360 Somebody had to tell you. I say, pass it on, 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:26.840 I didn't know, nig i'me on the elevator and then 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:29.400 Nigga bell hoops saying, I ain't never heard of you, man, 1:35:29.439 --> 1:35:31.639 why why you got on jury? Like? Who was you said? 1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:33.519 I'm too short? And now I saw the million records. 1:35:33.880 --> 1:35:36.240 And then the bell have the building, I mean Hotel 1:35:36.320 --> 1:35:39.680 New York and they're like, no, you didn't wow never 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:41.920 I never heard you saw the big records. So this 1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:45.439 is a crazy ship. Is you know what what side 1:35:45.479 --> 1:35:49.120 of you telling? Because we always felt like, you know, 1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:51.880 we showed y'all love. And I told the bell man 1:35:52.160 --> 1:35:54.559 Nigga got two shows. A big daddy came that. Nigga said, 1:35:54.640 --> 1:36:04.800 now I know you're like and you did do shows? Yeah, shows, okay, crazy, Wow, 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:07.840 this markey is my nigga. Man, that's my my homie, 1:36:07.960 --> 1:36:10.719 like talking a lot of my fuckers, Jam James, my nigga. 1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:13.280 That's my nigga, Like, yeah, that's crazy. Way back when 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.880 it was God bless him, God bless him. Your two 1:36:15.920 --> 1:36:18.519 show got the craziest stories. Man, we just make let's 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:21.040 make some noise for two children man coming out, hang 1:36:21.120 --> 1:36:24.280 it out. I was there, you were there. I told you. 1:36:24.320 --> 1:36:26.599 I just turned fifty, nigg I know some ship kres 1:36:26.640 --> 1:36:28.240 One told us he turned fifty and he put on 1:36:28.320 --> 1:36:34.600 a Peak card. You got a car, and see what 1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:35.800 kind of Let me let me see what kind of 1:36:35.880 --> 1:36:38.600 call you guys, Let me see you kind of You know, 1:36:38.720 --> 1:36:44.240 we need sunny here, we're sunny ye cannabis car. Goddamnit, 1:36:44.520 --> 1:36:46.760 Look at that. Look at that. Let's make some noise too. 1:36:46.760 --> 1:36:53.120 Shot up being a super smoker. I shouldn't shure. This 1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:55.920 is little. I can't thank you so much. Man, Listen, 1:36:56.080 --> 1:37:00.160 I could never repay you for this because I don't know. Um, 1:37:00.439 --> 1:37:03.840 if people understand what this is. There's people from the 1:37:03.880 --> 1:37:06.800 Bay Area, there's people from South Central, there's people from 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:09.560 New York. They all want to know your story. And 1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:11.960 right now, I mean in the hip hop way when 1:37:12.000 --> 1:37:14.400 I say they know your story. But in the hip 1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:17.160 hop way, we're not journalists. We don't google ship. We 1:37:17.280 --> 1:37:20.040 sit there conversation. I'm gonna be honest, I don't know 1:37:20.160 --> 1:37:21.920 the Google, but I do really get the point site 1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:26.000 just figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. 1:37:26.439 --> 1:37:29.000 But and and we sit here with hip hop legend. 1:37:29.040 --> 1:37:31.479 We had carerest one sitting right there. This is it's correct. 1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:36.360 The right there carocon is right there. And once some 1:37:36.400 --> 1:37:40.519 more drive records. He was on drive. We got Q 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:45.000 tip that's coming to the drive records. So I'm bringing 1:37:45.000 --> 1:37:49.680 it up dog rest in peace, the five girl and Um, 1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:52.760 I can't thank you enough, my brother. I really appreciate this. 1:37:52.840 --> 1:37:55.360 I was so excited. My brother d j F and 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:57.519 told me. He said, yo, man, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:57.560 --> 1:38:00.479 Two shoulders coming. And I don't know if you felt 1:38:00.560 --> 1:38:02.040 it when he was on the phone, but I kept 1:38:02.080 --> 1:38:07.280 going like this heard it? Where did that come from? Short? 1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:09.800 Because every time I hear your name, I keep popping 1:38:09.840 --> 1:38:12.559 my collar. Is that cool? Yeah? That's a that's that's 1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:16.479 that's a gesture. That's a gesture. So you like every 1:38:16.520 --> 1:38:20.560 time if we're not look if I'm in UM, like 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:23.519 if I'm in like Tucson, Arizona and they say you 1:38:23.600 --> 1:38:29.400 wanted too short, um, Ribs or the US like this, 1:38:29.760 --> 1:38:33.880 Yeah you're good, I'm good. I'm good to wear suits 1:38:33.880 --> 1:38:35.839 and ship. Man, they really used to pop their collars, 1:38:35.960 --> 1:38:38.559 so they they had collars you don't have. I didn't 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:40.680 know where the popping collar came from. So you had 1:38:40.760 --> 1:38:44.000 these certain characters that they the whole time they're talking 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:46.880 to you, like they get so clean, just like you know, man, 1:38:47.040 --> 1:38:48.840 when I was doing this, just like this is not 1:38:49.000 --> 1:38:50.600 just and they just popping and it's just like what 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:53.720 kind of style you got, Like they got ordered and 1:38:53.760 --> 1:38:55.360 they talked like that the whole time they're talking to you, 1:38:56.760 --> 1:38:59.519 when they getting terriorted or after they tell why the 1:38:59.600 --> 1:39:02.240 niggative walk up talking to you. Niggas talking past like 1:39:02.439 --> 1:39:06.639 my nigga, my nigga, you know you me short? Get 1:39:06.680 --> 1:39:08.519 me right? Am I doing the correct when I'm doing it? 1:39:09.240 --> 1:39:12.040 A popular color? You got the one hand pop together. 1:39:13.680 --> 1:39:15.120 Let me look at you, let me see you do it. 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:17.200 You really got to be wearing a college shirt though 1:39:17.240 --> 1:39:19.120 you gotta pop your collar. You call it man, you 1:39:20.320 --> 1:39:25.320 man short. Let me tell you something that I told you. 1:39:26.120 --> 1:39:27.720 I come from a different cloth and thing is what 1:39:27.880 --> 1:39:29.880 I come from. The finesse niggas who don't know you 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:34.040 don't necessarily have to do a lot of exterior because 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:36.439 you're sitting there quietly. You told a bit what to 1:39:36.520 --> 1:39:38.400 do and you're just sitting there. Point you don't. You 1:39:38.439 --> 1:39:42.599 don't have to brag on it, you feel me? Yeah, 1:39:42.680 --> 1:39:45.120 So it's it's I had married those kind of cats. 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:47.400 I took on that that style of just not but 1:39:47.520 --> 1:39:50.400 do they pop they call you kind of don't you 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:53.280 don't do the loud, you don't rhyme, you don't rhyme, 1:39:53.400 --> 1:39:55.519 you don't dress too loud. You just kind of like 1:39:55.640 --> 1:39:57.960 you run that game and you so short. If I 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:00.800 could be a temporary pen before, like one day, could 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:05.200 you coach me? I've been telling you all day, I think, 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:10.440 said Anthony. You know I'll keep you all to telling 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:13.599 out on man. When the bitch chose me, I didn't 1:40:13.600 --> 1:40:15.719 know what to do after that. I was like, oh, ship, 1:40:16.120 --> 1:40:19.960 but does the chick ever pimp the dude the jiggerlo 1:40:20.600 --> 1:40:24.839 that happen? You will never become a boss pimp unless 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.200 a bit turns you out first. You can think anything 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:31.439 you want. But she got confused. I'm Mary, Let's go 1:40:31.520 --> 1:40:33.599 like this. You never pimp the hole before, and you're 1:40:33.640 --> 1:40:35.080 gonna and you're gonna turn the misch out for the 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:36.960 first time. So she just getting turned down. You just 1:40:37.000 --> 1:40:39.759 getting turned out? Y'all. Huh, what y'all gonna do together? 1:40:40.479 --> 1:40:43.120 Who never held the pimp? Who never pimp? Somebody got 1:40:43.200 --> 1:40:44.960 to get you that game. You got to go get 1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:46.960 your feet with the best time. Let's make some those 1:40:47.000 --> 1:40:50.640 to be in school. That is really thick. That is 1:40:50.720 --> 1:40:52.560 really the best time you ever gonna get. This is 1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:55.240 the first you gone. You might get a little junior house. 1:40:55.240 --> 1:40:56.840 She'd like, I do it for you. She might be 1:40:57.240 --> 1:41:04.000 around junior fuming around the So you're gonna knock another 1:41:04.479 --> 1:41:06.760 You're the new young pimp. You're the new young pamp. 1:41:06.800 --> 1:41:09.000 You're gonna knock an another niggas bit you've been getting it. 1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:11.439 She coming over. You're like this, bitch I've been having. 1:41:11.439 --> 1:41:13.160 Ain't never hold like this. You got a super hole 1:41:13.200 --> 1:41:15.559 down and you're like, oh ship when once you got 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:18.400 a super hoo and you adapt, you can't go read 1:41:18.439 --> 1:41:21.880 some of these books. Man, You and you sit there 1:41:21.920 --> 1:41:23.840 and you you ain't never letting her know that you 1:41:23.960 --> 1:41:25.960 can't hang with her. But you're pimping your way into it. 1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:28.960 The next hole you get, you're gonna be harder and 1:41:29.080 --> 1:41:31.040 harder and harder. Like you know, you learn some ship 1:41:31.160 --> 1:41:34.040 from that super how you learn That's why you know 1:41:34.080 --> 1:41:36.240 those teaching to dude when you had the junior home 1:41:36.320 --> 1:41:37.760 and he was like, she bring me a little something. 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:39.559 Now you got a super hool, you like every hole 1:41:39.560 --> 1:41:41.400 after that, you like, do you fucking know what how 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:44.679 it is? That's why he gave me a famous player card. 1:41:45.040 --> 1:41:47.280 I wanted to give it back. I said, you guys 1:41:47.320 --> 1:41:51.360 are complicated. This is very complicated. But your lifestyle is 1:41:51.479 --> 1:41:53.640 very hard style. But the famous player card is not 1:41:53.680 --> 1:41:55.479 a famous pimp card. It's just for the players, man, 1:41:55.800 --> 1:41:59.840 because they all know it's a difference. They all know. 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:01.800 Don't really be out there trying to pimp house and ship. 1:42:01.880 --> 1:42:06.040 I don't. I never sadn't you should just prom this 1:42:06.240 --> 1:42:17.200 same polder still come. Guess what happens when you're too short. 1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:20.920 I mean, I'm at the club in Las Vegas, hanging 1:42:20.960 --> 1:42:23.360 with my folks at the table. The bitch walks up 1:42:23.439 --> 1:42:26.599 to me and hands me like eighteen hunter and said 1:42:26.640 --> 1:42:28.600 you're the reason why I'm hoping and walked away. She 1:42:28.680 --> 1:42:31.040 didn't tell her motherfucker name. I didn't even see what 1:42:31.120 --> 1:42:33.120 she gave me, so she was out of sight, and look, 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:35.200 I was like, nigger, bit, just walk me through the 1:42:35.280 --> 1:42:38.040 hand to be this, And then what did you do 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:40.360 the seventeen hunter? Let's keep it rare. We bought that. 1:42:40.439 --> 1:42:44.360 We're just we're spending. We came back to keeping it 1:42:44.439 --> 1:42:49.760 getting back to the man. She never introduced her name. 1:42:50.360 --> 1:42:52.200 I couldn't tell you what her Facebook. I couldn't never 1:42:52.280 --> 1:42:56.280 tell you. I don't even know. I don't know. Let 1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:58.160 me tell yourself. We got the legend too short in here. 1:42:58.360 --> 1:43:00.080 We're gonna she paid it back to the game, not 1:43:00.200 --> 1:43:02.280 trying to pimp into the pyman came to me, wants 1:43:02.320 --> 1:43:03.960 to pivocating to me, I know what to do with 1:43:04.040 --> 1:43:07.240 the off and then pivoting like, you give me your bit, 1:43:07.520 --> 1:43:11.360 don't do you? I say, not anybody. It's enough not 1:43:11.479 --> 1:43:13.880 to know to give them my bitch, anybody that's listening. 1:43:14.120 --> 1:43:16.800 So I gave it a bit to like, I gave 1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:19.320 it a bit to like, um, like to see or something. 1:43:19.800 --> 1:43:25.519 And then I'm sorry, anybody that's listening, just remember this. 1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:27.800 Don't don't listen to ship about some pimp rules and 1:43:27.800 --> 1:43:29.640 ship and yeah, I think you're gonna wake up and 1:43:29.680 --> 1:43:32.160 trying to be a pimp. It's not something that you do. 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:34.720 It's not something that you adapt the lifestyle. You know, 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:37.640 just like anything you do, you become an expert. You know, 1:43:37.880 --> 1:43:41.160 it's just it's in you. It's in you, ye right now. 1:43:41.360 --> 1:43:43.000 I love the art of it. But it's not in me. 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:45.920 I don't have the pimp powers passion that you see 1:43:46.000 --> 1:43:48.360 me for hip hop the music in the last show, 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:52.320 and I don't have that passion for pimping. But you 1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:54.800 had the passion more for hip hop than pimper. I 1:43:54.880 --> 1:43:57.680 love the art of the pimp game. It's a beautiful thing. 1:43:57.760 --> 1:44:02.719 If you you know what is the best profession after pimping, 1:44:03.280 --> 1:44:07.320 if you've been a pimp? Rapping? No? Hell no, what 1:44:07.640 --> 1:44:13.439 what I'm saying, thank you? That's what most pimps they start. Yeah. Preachers, Yeah, yeah, 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:15.960 you got You got to listen to the level of 1:44:16.120 --> 1:44:20.679 hustlings being as owning the church. That's the last level 1:44:20.720 --> 1:44:24.840 of I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing at Christianity. I'm 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:33.240 laughing that preacher listening us last hustle is being a preacher. 1:44:33.800 --> 1:44:37.560 I'm just telling you that the preacher's pimping his congregation. 1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:41.519 Who gives a fuck? That's the last level of I 1:44:41.640 --> 1:44:45.840 got that. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you another way. Now, 1:44:45.920 --> 1:44:49.000 Let's say, throughout your life, the way you learned how 1:44:49.040 --> 1:44:51.320 to be a pimp was that you figured I have 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:53.720 the gift the gap. You told that to yourself. The 1:44:53.760 --> 1:44:56.759 gift to Gap is your main weapon, and pimping, unless 1:44:56.760 --> 1:44:59.760 you're grill with him, sounds like is the punch of 1:45:00.040 --> 1:45:03.000 facing the big as you as you stare in the 1:45:03.200 --> 1:45:05.960 ugly face of pimping you see a fucking hole die 1:45:06.040 --> 1:45:10.040 on the job or some ship murdered or junkie hole overdose, 1:45:10.120 --> 1:45:11.880 is just the bitch life get sucked off and she 1:45:12.000 --> 1:45:14.160 ended up in prison you never see again, like you know, 1:45:14.320 --> 1:45:16.679 just the the ugly side of the ship, the ship 1:45:16.840 --> 1:45:18.519 that the ship that sucks you up in the head 1:45:18.600 --> 1:45:20.800 because you've seen how you took this little innocent girl 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:24.080 who was a waitress, and you see what she ended 1:45:24.120 --> 1:45:25.560 up being, and you're like, damn, how am I in 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:28.040 the eyes of God if I did this to her? 1:45:28.320 --> 1:45:30.200 And you start feeling like a sucking monster, like it 1:45:30.240 --> 1:45:33.280 ain't for everybody in the long run. So what do 1:45:33.400 --> 1:45:36.080 you do? You you fucking step to the light and 1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:39.280 you go to the church and you start really realizing 1:45:39.320 --> 1:45:41.519 that damn, I've been walking the wrong path. And then 1:45:41.520 --> 1:45:45.360 you end up being a fucking preacher later. But the 1:45:45.479 --> 1:45:47.360 main thing is why are you a good preacher? Because 1:45:47.400 --> 1:45:53.519 from day one you had to give the gap. It 1:45:53.560 --> 1:45:55.760 ain't like if if a pimp turn preacher, he's not 1:45:55.960 --> 1:45:58.160 he's not being wicked, or he's not. He might just 1:45:58.280 --> 1:46:00.479 really had went that path where he looked at that 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:04.680 ugly ship and he went the other way. Some of 1:46:04.720 --> 1:46:06.599 them might be wicked. Yeah, it might be, but I'm 1:46:06.640 --> 1:46:08.600 just saying that this money, I don't want to be 1:46:08.680 --> 1:46:11.080 just a ship where it real ship, though that ship 1:46:11.160 --> 1:46:13.080 gets uggly. I I know a church boy right now 1:46:13.400 --> 1:46:15.160 that pimped his ass off. And the only reason he's 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:17.040 a church boy because it's because when he saw Pivin 1:46:17.640 --> 1:46:20.439 fucked him up. Let's make some noise for the ship 1:46:20.520 --> 1:46:29.160 that sucked him up. Yo, yo, just want to followed 1:46:29.200 --> 1:46:35.720 just claiming on this up. I'm not gonna lie. If 1:46:35.760 --> 1:46:39.439 you listen to two shorts, you get pimp tomorrow. Just listen. 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:42.719 I funked up when the like listen, it's a horrible 1:46:42.760 --> 1:46:47.080 pimple Like I went and I said, you gotta choose 1:46:47.120 --> 1:46:51.120 to lose, said I chose, she chose me. I was like, oh, ship, 1:46:52.960 --> 1:46:54.680 what did I do from here? What do I do 1:46:54.800 --> 1:46:57.439 from here? And I was fucked up? Pimp juju pim 1:46:57.520 --> 1:47:02.360 mckinn uh, but you're done. They was all trying to not. 1:47:03.760 --> 1:47:05.920 I was holding it down because I was like, they 1:47:05.920 --> 1:47:08.280 can't not my bis because I see I've seen the documentaries. 1:47:08.720 --> 1:47:10.760 So I was like, I'm not going to knock my bitch. 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:13.879 But as soon as I left, I just left alone 1:47:14.280 --> 1:47:16.519 and that was it, so I knew I can. There's 1:47:16.520 --> 1:47:19.439 two things you gotta do to establish You have to 1:47:20.240 --> 1:47:21.840 you have to get a choosing feet, and you have 1:47:21.960 --> 1:47:25.000 to at least send me a choosing feet. And what 1:47:25.200 --> 1:47:27.160 is that? That's when she paid you to be with you, 1:47:27.720 --> 1:47:30.240 So you mean to tell me soon as she chose me, 1:47:30.240 --> 1:47:32.560 I said, I said, bitch at pay a lot of 1:47:32.640 --> 1:47:34.759 PIM said the bar kind kind of kind of steep 1:47:34.800 --> 1:47:36.360 if you asked me, I don't know. They're like, you know, 1:47:36.479 --> 1:47:39.439 it's like five ten racks. I heard five X. I 1:47:39.479 --> 1:47:41.960 could have got. I could have got if you could 1:47:41.960 --> 1:47:47.400 have got a sign the short start to see your phone, man, 1:47:48.240 --> 1:47:50.920 want to change numbers. I was playing the wrong game 1:47:51.080 --> 1:47:56.519 for a long time. Yeah you're sure. Thank you so 1:47:56.640 --> 1:47:58.639 much for being a great sport and going down here 1:47:59.439 --> 1:48:03.000 having us. Man look a little I'm just saying, it 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:05.000 look like I had Carroson right there. It looked like 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:09.200 you're drinking on my tie. It's not it looks like Yo, sure, 1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:13.080 thank you so much, my brother. Easy on the pimping, y'all, 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:16.920 easy on the No, you're gonna responsibility like I want to. 1:48:17.680 --> 1:48:20.760 I'm gonna pimp. I'm gonna pimp, like pip your dogs 1:48:20.840 --> 1:48:23.240 first before you go up. After that, I'm gonna I'm 1:48:23.240 --> 1:48:25.240 gonna pimp like in my mind. I'm gonna have Short 1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:28.560 run me through it in my mind and then maybe no, 1:48:28.720 --> 1:48:31.880 I'm never gonna try. I'm never gonna try. But at 1:48:31.920 --> 1:48:34.280 least at least Short taught me tak you Short, man. 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:37.799 I really appreciate it. Man. Every time my person say bitch, 1:48:38.479 --> 1:48:43.200 how did that happen? Before we get out of her word, 1:48:44.600 --> 1:48:46.880 I showed you. I had a rap partner, Freddie b. 1:48:47.880 --> 1:48:49.960 So we tried to do everything that the streets do, 1:48:50.720 --> 1:48:54.120 and the streets was doing a lot of drugs. So 1:48:54.240 --> 1:48:56.160 we used to do these little skits before the songs 1:48:56.200 --> 1:48:59.040 are just like either acting like gangsters or just slick 1:48:59.120 --> 1:49:00.960 talking things. And one of the skids we used to 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:04.760 do was, uh was about to say this chick um 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:08.960 she was a be So we pretended like like we're 1:49:09.000 --> 1:49:12.000 smoking crack cocaine. But wait, wait, but this was not 1:49:12.120 --> 1:49:14.560 crack back but the crack cocaine at one point that 1:49:14.720 --> 1:49:17.280 was not crack. We sprinkled a little bit in the joints. 1:49:17.320 --> 1:49:19.120 But now we're not gonna hit the point you did 1:49:19.280 --> 1:49:21.439 hit the huge Did that should tastes good? It was? 1:49:21.560 --> 1:49:24.439 It was crazy. Don't let it take you down. But 1:49:24.560 --> 1:49:27.880 look at that stuff so dirties back then, it wasn't 1:49:28.000 --> 1:49:30.719 When we was wrapping it the early eighties, it wasn't crack. 1:49:31.120 --> 1:49:33.600 It was called freebasing, and it was only it was 1:49:33.640 --> 1:49:36.360 only fly people did that. He was if he was 1:49:36.760 --> 1:49:39.880 showing off rich, motherfucking you free base. That was the 1:49:39.880 --> 1:49:42.600 ship that burned rich and that that was that was 1:49:42.680 --> 1:49:44.519 in the pipe, or that was that It was the 1:49:44.560 --> 1:49:46.679 same thing. It was the same thing as a crackhead. 1:49:46.680 --> 1:49:48.800 It was smoking the pipe. But when it first came out, 1:49:48.880 --> 1:49:51.280 it came out as an elegant thing that only rich 1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:53.360 people did. Hey we're about to go smoke. It was like, 1:49:53.680 --> 1:49:58.360 this is the upgrade from cocaine rich people. Free basing 1:49:58.800 --> 1:50:02.679 was something that people openly said, we're freebasing, but cracking 1:50:02.760 --> 1:50:04.320 something when you turn to a crackhead. That was the 1:50:04.600 --> 1:50:07.559 same fucking ship. But it just had a different, different 1:50:07.560 --> 1:50:11.000 time and era. So we used to mimic Freemason. So 1:50:11.200 --> 1:50:12.519 we would sit there and be like, you know, the 1:50:12.560 --> 1:50:14.960 bitchry like hit, I hit this baby, like you know 1:50:15.120 --> 1:50:16.600 the tape is about to come on, the music coming on. 1:50:16.640 --> 1:50:18.400 We're doing the skip for it. Come on like this, 1:50:18.560 --> 1:50:21.599 hit and hit and say like I wannafuck choking ship 1:50:21.760 --> 1:50:24.559 and then uh, like, bitch, you're hitting, you're smoking too much. 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:27.920 And then uh and then my man like somebody being 1:50:27.960 --> 1:50:30.320 there doing the girls waste or whatever, and then and 1:50:30.360 --> 1:50:34.920 then it shouldn't be like like like bits like that's 1:50:34.960 --> 1:50:37.920 where the god we did that skits for crack making 1:50:38.160 --> 1:50:44.840 making up the bed, crack, cocaine gets something world get 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:46.800 so many times that the bitch just keep getting longer 1:50:46.880 --> 1:50:49.280 and longer and longer until it was just like bit 1:50:49.840 --> 1:50:52.759 and is that your favorite word? It really is my favorite. 1:50:55.160 --> 1:50:56.840 Look at this, they're got a rude awaken it up, 1:50:56.840 --> 1:50:59.120 because I wouldn't looked at some old dollar miite movies 1:51:02.520 --> 1:51:06.800 wait for you, but you're doing a hip hop. You 1:51:06.880 --> 1:51:10.120 are the You're the king, the first pamper hip hop. 1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:13.680 You're the first person that made us proud to be 1:51:13.880 --> 1:51:17.160 who you are will you want to be? We want 1:51:17.160 --> 1:51:19.680 to salute you, too short. Let's still say that we 1:51:19.880 --> 1:51:21.680 love you. We want to say that we want to 1:51:21.800 --> 1:51:26.479 keep continue, and you look the same. You ain't aging. 1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:30.840 We are saluting you, my brother. You know a great guy. 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:35.920 We love you. Drink champs, love you definitely, and we're 1:51:35.920 --> 1:51:38.599 gonna root some champagne. I've been drinking you hard. Look, 1:51:38.640 --> 1:51:44.600 I know you're a parent. You know this podcast. We 1:51:44.680 --> 1:51:50.400 don't keep it going. I'm never alright, always almost almost 1:51:51.360 --> 1:51:56.840 get into this night like man, too short, thank you 1:51:56.920 --> 1:52:01.320 for coming to drink chaps. I'm sorry, I don't know. 1:52:01.880 --> 1:52:05.200 I just keep coughing for no. Thank you too, sure, 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:09.040 ain't stop coughing. Hit the way again. It's like your 1:52:09.080 --> 1:52:12.559 TV shop yesterday. What happened on my TV show yesterday? 1:52:13.120 --> 1:52:16.840 Oh yo? We had scared faces, faces like I'm in Miami, nigga. 1:52:16.840 --> 1:52:19.080 I'm like, yeah, we just we just got off the cruise. 1:52:19.280 --> 1:52:23.280 Face bluke. We was all on this cruise. Hi five 1:52:23.600 --> 1:52:33.720 five Yo'll take you so much, stain