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Speaker 1: Not right now, we have imagined we have a super
Speaker 1: duper legend. I want to say he's the first Oakland rapper.
Speaker 1: I want to say he's the first person because because
Speaker 1: when I when when I heard out, I found out
Speaker 1: that he was actually from South Central first, but we
Speaker 1: wanna get it into that later. But the first person.
Speaker 1: He's the guy who's single handedly made beat what's my
Speaker 1: favorite word? I don't know why. Every time I say
Speaker 1: I grabbed my collar, I don't know why. Like that,
Speaker 1: This is how much it is. The HiFi movement, everything
Speaker 1: derived from this guy. He's the first. He's the on
Speaker 1: the East Coast, especially in New York. He's the first
Speaker 1: person that we saluted as the first pimp and rat,
Speaker 1: the first person that made people bow down, the first
Speaker 1: person that made bitch cool. Actually, and he's a motherfucking
Speaker 1: legend that every promote I ever speak to, I ever
Speaker 1: talked to, they say Short is the easiest person to
Speaker 1: work with because he's just coming in there. He's just
Speaker 1: fitting pimp and let's make a noise working too short.
Speaker 1: Too Short. First off, let me just thank you man
Speaker 1: for being a part of this man. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. We only interview on Legends. That's what we're
Speaker 1: doing and too short. He was the first person to
Speaker 1: make bitch famous. How did that happen? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned a minute ago, I did really grow
Speaker 1: up in the South Central Let's make a noise south.
Speaker 1: So you know, I gotta get colorful childhood. I've seen
Speaker 1: it all, you know. So you was gang banging and
Speaker 1: little in the set. My older brother was banging. But
Speaker 1: you know, you never keep you real close to it.
Speaker 1: So I've been there. You know, all my cousins. We
Speaker 1: live all over the city, you know, the hood and
Speaker 1: real real colorful, you know, upbringing, just seeing what was
Speaker 1: going on in the city, like l A in the
Speaker 1: early mid seventies, like seventies. And I moved to Oakland
Speaker 1: right after ninth grade. How was you? I was, I
Speaker 1: was fourteen, and then you would um, you would think
Speaker 1: of California, California, just just moving up the street. But
Speaker 1: it's it's like it was a totally different It's probably
Speaker 1: like a kid from New York moving the upstate or
Speaker 1: something like the difference all moving like Philly or something like.
Speaker 1: So I get to the Bay, it's a whole different world.
Speaker 1: It's and it's like it's it's like even more colorful
Speaker 1: and more out just out there in front of you
Speaker 1: where you know you. It just got a little more
Speaker 1: personal for me. I'm coming up, I'm coming to Let
Speaker 1: you left South Central at fourteen, so you're like almost
Speaker 1: almost a grown man, and didn't how you come to
Speaker 1: the Champion because that's this is the end is like
Speaker 1: real territorial l A. At that time. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: even to this day, it's like from in the inner city.
Speaker 1: It's like from neighborhood, the neighborhood, the faces that you know,
Speaker 1: who's running the ship and where you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: and not supposed to be you hit the wrong block.
Speaker 1: Now we're from in the l A. Was that I,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And when my first cousins on eighty
Speaker 1: four in Hoover, so just that's just that's but that's
Speaker 1: not very fucking far away. But it was like it
Speaker 1: was like two different to travel that there to there.
Speaker 1: You got to know your motherfucking route because they're gonna
Speaker 1: take your bike, They're gonna take something if you hit
Speaker 1: the wrong block. So I get to Oakland and it's
Speaker 1: not it's not really about the little packs of gangs.
Speaker 1: And it's not about blue or red. It's not about
Speaker 1: the neighborhood so much. It was just like who's getting money,
Speaker 1: Who's who's However, so, now how far the Oakland was
Speaker 1: Fillmore Street, because that's that's the first thing I heard
Speaker 1: about Oakland, Filmore Street, Filmore under that's oakling um uh
Speaker 1: is that is that when filber in west uh Fillmore is.
Speaker 1: This is a neighborhood in San Francisco. To Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: freak that down. Yeah, the Fillmore is a very historical neighborhood.
Speaker 1: To Okland has a lot of history. You know, you
Speaker 1: got different parts of the Bay, the Bay. You look
Speaker 1: at the Bay like you look at the Five Boroughs
Speaker 1: in New York. It's different sides of the Bay. Eforting
Speaker 1: him over there from Vallejo, it's a little town called
Speaker 1: East pala Altoy got you know, a lot of backbone.
Speaker 1: It's um. You know, San Francisco got a couple of
Speaker 1: little neighborhoods over there, Hunter's Point in Filmo and southing Dale.
Speaker 1: You know, they real reportable neighborhoods. But you know, I'm
Speaker 1: from East Oakland. I got mine from the East side.
Speaker 1: So I show up and I'm just being a sponge man.
Speaker 1: It's a new place. I'm looking around, you know. I
Speaker 1: go to Freemount of High School and Ship and it's
Speaker 1: like I go to school and as a nigger named
Speaker 1: Frank the Bank who's pimping. He's a twelth grader of pimping.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's make some freak. He's pimping and one
Speaker 1: of his Yeah, one of his hosts go to the
Speaker 1: school too. Okay, I'm in this city now, I'm like wow.
Speaker 1: So it's like this. They got another hop come show
Speaker 1: up after school every day and picking him and up
Speaker 1: him and the young how up and they go to work.
Speaker 1: So it's like it was that type of environment. Man,
Speaker 1: you got cats riding around like limousines, niggers driving the limousine.
Speaker 1: If he rolled the back wind of that, it's like
Speaker 1: five homes back there and then his house and it's
Speaker 1: not the driver. And that's the first time you're coming
Speaker 1: from South Central and that's the first time you see
Speaker 1: pimp in. And then at the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: Oakland was a lot different. Man. It was like niggas
Speaker 1: was doing like car bombs and ship and what do
Speaker 1: you mean by car bombs, was blowing each other's cars.
Speaker 1: Why they was at war. They blow car. They chopped
Speaker 1: your body up and put you in the plastic bag
Speaker 1: on the side of the right. It was. It was
Speaker 1: going down. They was doing Mafia ship seventies early. It's
Speaker 1: like Felix Mitch. You ever heard of Felix Mitchell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is not the Spanish gangs, right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is before us. Just black dudes. This is the mob.
Speaker 1: They called him something mom too, but it was just
Speaker 1: it was different than the gang. The Blue and Red
Speaker 1: people don't know that. UM on the West coast to
Speaker 1: this day, you got the l A Cats. They went
Speaker 1: to UM San Diego, UH, Sacramento, Denver, every city, want
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, UM, Phoenix, Arizona. They went to all
Speaker 1: these cities, Seattle, Washington, Portland, Oregon, and they converted motherfucker's
Speaker 1: into being crypton bludds. It's all up and down the west.
Speaker 1: You never found that ship in the bay. The bay
Speaker 1: was like, we don't get it, we don't want it.
Speaker 1: And you know, even though because even the Spanish gangs
Speaker 1: they might like fly color, but they ain't bang. They
Speaker 1: was doing the North and South Ship and it ain't
Speaker 1: the same science as crypton bloods as l A. Like
Speaker 1: a lot of cities are like You've got Chicago niggas
Speaker 1: that go around the way for Chicago and niggas in
Speaker 1: the Vike's Lords and g ds like thing. You know,
Speaker 1: it just didn't take to the Bay, blue and Red
Speaker 1: and all that ship. So I'm just taking this ship
Speaker 1: in as this new catnic city. And I started rapping,
Speaker 1: just working around on the my all, my all, my
Speaker 1: early raps, like one my ship was like kind of
Speaker 1: like whatever whatever I was getting from, like sugar Hill
Speaker 1: Records or something, just that vibe about, you know, the
Speaker 1: party and ship and all that ship. So I'm wrapping
Speaker 1: at different people's instrumentals. And the one thing that changed
Speaker 1: everything for me was when I first heard the message
Speaker 1: and I sat there, I'm walking down the street. I
Speaker 1: remember I had my radio and because I'm listening to
Speaker 1: this record to I've been bumping hip hop for about
Speaker 1: three years at the time, and I'm listening to this
Speaker 1: record and I could clear his day picture New York
Speaker 1: City because the nigga was described New York at that time,
Speaker 1: never so I can see New York. We weren't doing
Speaker 1: videos and Ship. But then you just listen to the music.
Speaker 1: So the nigga was giving me New York and I
Speaker 1: just had the ideal of a lifetime about to give
Speaker 1: these niggas Oakland. So so my upbringing in l A
Speaker 1: and then moving to Oakland and taking it in like
Speaker 1: a like a canvas or something like, you know, and
Speaker 1: absorbing it. You know, something that I didn't receive from birth.
Speaker 1: I just came into it. I started writing about it
Speaker 1: was it became like my music the city of Oakland.
Speaker 1: And even later in life, I could get stuck in
Speaker 1: the studio and just think of some crazy shift I've
Speaker 1: seen in Oakland, some shout I heard in Oakland, some
Speaker 1: shift I think about Oakland and just start writing. And
Speaker 1: Ship just made me write songs. So, so, what's the
Speaker 1: name of their first album again out Don't Stop Rapping?
Speaker 1: And I named it that for a reason And you
Speaker 1: didn't stop wrapping by five? So so short, Yeah, that's crazy,
Speaker 1: that is crazy. So and when what year did that drop? Five?
Speaker 1: I was born in seventy seven, so you know, So
Speaker 1: if I don't, if I know that, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan. I always been a big fan of you.
Speaker 1: U was raping job for a long time. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's a salute to that rape job. You saw that
Speaker 1: Planet Rock documentary. Yeah, the relationship between crack cocaine and
Speaker 1: hip hop, let's not the city v H one. It
Speaker 1: was either VIN one or B and then talking about
Speaker 1: throughout the history of hip hop and how the cocaine
Speaker 1: and the cracking. I'm from that ship because the way
Speaker 1: that people say, uh and freeway Rick Ross. If they
Speaker 1: said that crack cocaine invented in Oakland, it was l
Speaker 1: a but then they they used cities like Oakland to
Speaker 1: kind of like to stop. Yeah. Yeah, So how was
Speaker 1: that like seeing the city coming from South Central going
Speaker 1: to Oakland and then you seeing it not having crack
Speaker 1: and then now crack has closed. So first and foremost,
Speaker 1: I gotta say I never so dup in my life.
Speaker 1: You know what's going to do? I sold a lot
Speaker 1: of pussy. Yeah, oh my god. But that being said,
Speaker 1: um so before eight five, before like you know, you
Speaker 1: remember that ship, it was like I could be like
Speaker 1: what I called Nigga rich Man. You might just your
Speaker 1: hu hustle might only back then might have got you
Speaker 1: like three five grand, but you had a car. You
Speaker 1: always had a wide with a rubber band. He was
Speaker 1: he was bawling. And the crack change that ship. I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember the crack did a few things man because
Speaker 1: her Oakland was like not Oakland, but I mean that
Speaker 1: area was a great area. Like prior to the drugs,
Speaker 1: you could you could move around a little bit. It
Speaker 1: wasn't too fucking dangerous if you you do freeery red
Speaker 1: Cross later on, later on continued, but it's the kind
Speaker 1: of place where you could you had to get yourself
Speaker 1: in some trouble if you did it, if you asked
Speaker 1: for it, you was gonna get it to the front appropriately.
Speaker 1: But after the crack, you would notice like and you
Speaker 1: know this ship too, um, it would be like little niggas,
Speaker 1: the little niggas that used to probably like couldn't fight
Speaker 1: too good and ship and it wasn't like you know,
Speaker 1: these little niggas was respected. Now they got that money,
Speaker 1: that sack and they got a couple of soldiers and
Speaker 1: like this little nigga is a boss now like too
Speaker 1: three years into it, Like this nigga is a kingpin.
Speaker 1: And it just changed that. You know, we didn't before
Speaker 1: the crack, we didn't have a handguns that could shoot
Speaker 1: seventeen bullets. You know what I'm saying that the motion
Speaker 1: you might get shoot six shots and the motherfucking you know,
Speaker 1: tell you why you got shot after the crap, you
Speaker 1: don't know why you got shot seventeen And that's just
Speaker 1: if it's a handgun. Do you believe the story that
Speaker 1: the c i A actually that it started. That's a
Speaker 1: good version that this is true. But the bigger version
Speaker 1: now is the whole big story of the whole mass
Speaker 1: incarceration thing, that the whole ship was a scam. So
Speaker 1: that it's damn there, like we we all this ship
Speaker 1: we called coke rap. We're damn there like we we
Speaker 1: failed for the trap. You know they call what they
Speaker 1: sell dope in the spot called the trap. That I
Speaker 1: mean it says at all. So so so listen, I
Speaker 1: want to get into the pymnt thing because you know
Speaker 1: why I want to get into the Pippin thing because
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk with any n y C nigga.
Speaker 1: Tell you, we didn't know anything about no Pippen until
Speaker 1: we heard you talking about it. When you heard you
Speaker 1: talking about it, then we've seen Bishop don maam, we've
Speaker 1: seen them. You know the players, uh, players ball, we've
Speaker 1: seen all that. Come on, he stopped the phone boy,
Speaker 1: that's because so so so so so so when was
Speaker 1: the first time he was introduced to pimpen And then
Speaker 1: how did you realize that that was that was gonna
Speaker 1: be your life? All right? Well, my infatuation started with
Speaker 1: the movies of the seventies because they put it in there.
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, my cousins living on eighty
Speaker 1: four ft hoover, if you go to the other end
Speaker 1: of the block, you want to figure rower and that's
Speaker 1: where it hover. That's in the l a. So then
Speaker 1: when I get the Oakland, I see these niggs righting
Speaker 1: around limousine, the hoses and then getting picked up in
Speaker 1: school from his hose and limousines looking at back and
Speaker 1: it was like they're made back back then. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then me and my little homie, we'll go down to
Speaker 1: San Pablo where they used to see pussy and prior
Speaker 1: to Crack, they looked like a fucking monel wing runaway
Speaker 1: and ships were beautiful. Yeah. So because you know, Crack
Speaker 1: gave pivot and home like this ugly s image. A
Speaker 1: lot of pimps got smoked out a lot of holes
Speaker 1: got smoked out, and then it was like then we
Speaker 1: start saying it like crack horrors. Before that, your bitch
Speaker 1: had to be a superstar. And even to this day,
Speaker 1: I want to shout out some of my young pimping
Speaker 1: homies right now that they're pimping on some dying pieces
Speaker 1: that you would never think was bitches not making three
Speaker 1: when she laid she's bringing in a thousands, she's bringing
Speaker 1: in thousands. You know, I was out there on some
Speaker 1: major routes right now. So just to keep the pimpot alive,
Speaker 1: don't don't, don't get it, I keep propping my call
Speaker 1: like every time. I keep some times shoes they looked
Speaker 1: like rappers morning. So so I, um, I've seen this ship, man.
Speaker 1: I started. I started diving a little more into it.
Speaker 1: My thing with rapping after I heard the message was
Speaker 1: let's use the lingo of the streets, the new slang
Speaker 1: words that come out the ship that's really happening, Like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about these streets. And then it just he
Speaker 1: off into you know, let's talk about this game, and
Speaker 1: we just started like people just you would wrap about
Speaker 1: ship and you would see what motherfucker was interested in.
Speaker 1: They wanted to hear that real ship. So somewhere down
Speaker 1: the line, I had a I had a line in
Speaker 1: one of my songs, I don't know if you're smokeing,
Speaker 1: Oh ship ship short. I was anna say that I
Speaker 1: didn't know you smoke you About fifteen sixteen, I wrote
Speaker 1: this this one line and said, um, it said I
Speaker 1: had sixteen holes sucking tin toes and that you can
Speaker 1: bet like it was just a line, and every time
Speaker 1: I said that in the song, Motherfucker's laughed. So I
Speaker 1: sat down by myself and said, let me write a
Speaker 1: song about each of these sixteen holes and how I
Speaker 1: met him. And that was the early version of my
Speaker 1: song that came to be real popular, called Freaky Tales.
Speaker 1: And I had a song about these sixteen holes how
Speaker 1: I met him, I met this hole, you know, And
Speaker 1: it just started being more and more himp and I
Speaker 1: just started digging into the game. M and you you
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you got the Donald Goin's books. Listen,
Speaker 1: you got um you know, Iceberg, Slim, The Story of
Speaker 1: My Life, Phil More. Some of those books got some
Speaker 1: real game up in the real game. I read this
Speaker 1: book called a broad Players. It's not very popular, but
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. Just it's just big pimping. And I started
Speaker 1: it just come to me, man, you get these ideas
Speaker 1: as a writer, and I'm like, dn that hauld be
Speaker 1: a cold as fun just like this. I gotta tell
Speaker 1: your story short. One time I met Bischer don wan
Speaker 1: he he invited me to a joint, right and then
Speaker 1: and then so party. For a week, I was pimping,
Speaker 1: like for just one week, just one week, right, just
Speaker 1: one I swore I was pimping. Right. So this white
Speaker 1: bass come on to me and I said, you bit,
Speaker 1: you gotta choose. She choose, She chose me. I ain't
Speaker 1: know what to do after that, Like I did that short?
Speaker 1: Can you can? You? Can? You? What was I trying?
Speaker 1: Owes me and start? Who were wearing? Why? And the
Speaker 1: ship is like it's like any other business man. Why
Speaker 1: is this woman gonna sell her body and give you
Speaker 1: the money? Right? And you know, you put yourself and
Speaker 1: start of like a manager role. You kind of like um,
Speaker 1: kind of like her fucking fucking therapists and ship. You know,
Speaker 1: but this is gonna be crazy as hell. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta bring it back around every night, because a
Speaker 1: real pimp gotta be real smart. Let's the main The
Speaker 1: main secret I think that I learned about pippin that one,
Speaker 1: the one that lets you go home and kick your
Speaker 1: ass back while she's out there working, is she gotta
Speaker 1: be home for a purpose, and you've got to give
Speaker 1: her a person, some noise for for a purpose. Start
Speaker 1: giving that puss here away for no reason. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's anything in life. Man, if you're not driven, if
Speaker 1: you're you're wrapping and ship, and you're not wrapping for something,
Speaker 1: you're not really you're not really going forward, just on
Speaker 1: the corner freestyling and battling. I just always thought that
Speaker 1: like the pimps that didn't hit the holes and didn't
Speaker 1: do that, I thought there's the best ones, because in
Speaker 1: order for you to control somebody with your mind and
Speaker 1: just talk to them, that is the illest psychological therapist,
Speaker 1: craziest ship. So how about those pips, Well, you know
Speaker 1: the pimps who I call that like finesse pimpen where
Speaker 1: you could just pep and then the other guy who
Speaker 1: gotta beat the girl scared of shut out. They call
Speaker 1: that guerrilla pimp. And I heard about and you know
Speaker 1: the finesse pimps, they kind of laugh at the grilla pimps.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like they look at it like the
Speaker 1: nigga is not as smart as me and he don't
Speaker 1: got much game as me. But it works both ways.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to pimp the whole out
Speaker 1: of fear. I personally don't think that that's even necessary,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of niggas. It's mean nature like
Speaker 1: that to just dog the bitch out and just just
Speaker 1: run round a house full of fear. But you know,
Speaker 1: either way, you're getting the money man, because because your
Speaker 1: record label was always you was you was signed a
Speaker 1: job for like like well ship like like maybe twelve
Speaker 1: the no it was me E forty spice one because
Speaker 1: the tours was crazy back then. So but you was
Speaker 1: the first like a fish rapper from Oakland, no doubt about,
Speaker 1: from the whole fucking Bay area. Make some noise for that.
Speaker 1: I got dad at no Ship And it has really
Speaker 1: nothing to do with my l a upbringing either. This
Speaker 1: that I just got to Oakland. It all just happened.
Speaker 1: After I got there. I decided I could do this
Speaker 1: rap ship and I just didn't it just you know,
Speaker 1: it's even bigger than being the first rapper up out
Speaker 1: of the bay. Bigger than that is is being a
Speaker 1: pioneer of the whole music scene, because you could be
Speaker 1: the first rapper and not pioneer ship. But we brought
Speaker 1: in that independent put your mother records out, you know,
Speaker 1: And like I said, it was because then job came
Speaker 1: and got you. How did that happen when you first
Speaker 1: got sign a job? I came in the game through uh,
Speaker 1: through some some street guys, you know, okay, particularly a
Speaker 1: guy named Dean Hodges. He seen you and this little
Speaker 1: brother was was the homie. We still you know, smoke weed,
Speaker 1: hang out the ship and he was just the homie.
Speaker 1: We still funk around and like his little brother rapped,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't. He wasn't really that quality where that
Speaker 1: you ever thought he was gonna get on. He was
Speaker 1: just like for the fun of every day. But then
Speaker 1: the projects rapping and ship kicking out. So he was like, man,
Speaker 1: my brother got a record label. I'm like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: He's like, take you up by his house. Now I
Speaker 1: knew his brother not for having a record label. The
Speaker 1: nigga he had the sack And if you want to
Speaker 1: get a visual of Dean back then, Dean kind of
Speaker 1: you know nigga with the with the curlers in his hair,
Speaker 1: the cover green or whatever the East Coast. Every time
Speaker 1: they had the curlers in the head, just kill us.
Speaker 1: Picture that nigga and looking like he was kind of
Speaker 1: like a Jimmy Hendricks, Rick James looking just like a
Speaker 1: rock star. Him and man, I got so much game.
Speaker 1: Dean taught me how to be a player. This nigga
Speaker 1: was a player. He was a player for I mean
Speaker 1: real player who was sitting in his house. I'm fresh
Speaker 1: out of high school. This nigga run in and out
Speaker 1: all day all day. Just he got the sack and
Speaker 1: he's just rock star in the hood and he's just
Speaker 1: a house on the hill bawling. And then then they
Speaker 1: had a label. And the whole label consists of him
Speaker 1: m having the money, having a drug. Everybody wanted to cocaine.
Speaker 1: He sit out there. You go to Dean's house, it
Speaker 1: is a platter of cocaine right there. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a bit. It's a bit over there and maybe in
Speaker 1: her and her draw panties and brought cooking up some cokes.
Speaker 1: Want to smoke it. It's a box of weed. Just
Speaker 1: roll a joint. If you don't ask, just roll the
Speaker 1: motherfucker and you know. It's just it was a colorful environment. Man.
Speaker 1: My fucking Dan was kind of the watch Sanfer and
Speaker 1: sun rerounds all day and just and just bit just
Speaker 1: sit around their panties. I'm not gonna lie when you
Speaker 1: described that scene, me Lee think side and we didn't
Speaker 1: look like some ship like that. On a way higher level,
Speaker 1: this nigger was not selling rocks. This was not a
Speaker 1: rock house you had. You had to come up in
Speaker 1: there with some money, if you know what I think.
Speaker 1: So Dean got all these professionals together, musicians that played
Speaker 1: all instruments, niggas that have been in you know, different
Speaker 1: bands with because Oakland got a lot of music history.
Speaker 1: So these niggas that played with Tower and Power and
Speaker 1: Larry Graham and James and all kind of motherfucker's. It
Speaker 1: was just it was professionalism. And he put me in
Speaker 1: the studio with these niggas, these like older cats. He
Speaker 1: even had some rock and roll dudes around. It was
Speaker 1: just it was a great environment to become too short.
Speaker 1: It wasn't really doesn't sound really healthy, but it was
Speaker 1: a great environment to develop the character. Too short and
Speaker 1: we made. We just go to studio since session started
Speaker 1: LEMPM in the six am, and it was just you know,
Speaker 1: it's like college for me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But the main thing was the nigga was really running
Speaker 1: the independent label and he was really going to the studio.
Speaker 1: And he's the one who took you to job going. No,
Speaker 1: he was the one that he just taught me this ship.
Speaker 1: So we go to the studio, the ship mixed down,
Speaker 1: we got this other motherfucker. We get cassettes and wax
Speaker 1: pressed up. We got this other motherfucker. And he he
Speaker 1: sells the ship to multiple record stores and then we
Speaker 1: drive up to individual record stores and just carry the
Speaker 1: ship in and sell it to him. Because it's true,
Speaker 1: like like y'all invented independent hustling for that. How I
Speaker 1: got lucky was one day I'm one Dean, this nigga,
Speaker 1: you know, the nigga that taught you the game. You're
Speaker 1: looking up to. This nigga is driving bins. He's the nigga.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm like, what's what we're doing next?
Speaker 1: And then one day Deans, like about tw years into it,
Speaker 1: he was like man to me and his little brother
Speaker 1: I need you to get the funk out of my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: focus music, ship, just get the way, don't come around.
Speaker 1: I don't know more, but we like family. His mom
Speaker 1: is like my mom, and his cousins like my cousin.
Speaker 1: We ain't going too far right up the street. But
Speaker 1: still now he was like, I don't want to more
Speaker 1: parts of it. So that all we had to do
Speaker 1: now is we've been running with Dean for two years,
Speaker 1: to the motherfucking studio, to the manufacturer, to the negati
Speaker 1: did the artwork, to the motherfucking distributor picking up the check.
Speaker 1: Were right there with what do we do? We do
Speaker 1: the ship without him, nigga, we made so much motherfuckers,
Speaker 1: and that's how you are. That's how I found me,
Speaker 1: and then job came to you. We didn't give a
Speaker 1: funk about the signing bonus and nothing. We're just like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna give us national distributions. Let's right. You know
Speaker 1: in New York it was the exact opposite of that wine. Why, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll be trying to get a deal, right, We'll be
Speaker 1: trying to get a deal first. But we heard or
Speaker 1: something because we heard that Richmond, California. You guys in yeah, Oakland,
Speaker 1: like you guys in like like y'all was actually like
Speaker 1: when you said selling out the trunk, we meant that
Speaker 1: as selling it to fat beats. We wasn't selling I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keeping it honest with you. We wasn't selling out
Speaker 1: the trunk, y'all. Was literally we had boxes in the
Speaker 1: back of selling out the motherfucking trunk. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: no trunk. It was actually a fucking truck trunk, actually truck. Wow.
Speaker 1: The same thing with Master P. Man Master was in
Speaker 1: the Bay. He was in the Bay. His family they
Speaker 1: owned like record stores. He owned the record store in Richmond.
Speaker 1: Master P was from New Orleans, came out to the
Speaker 1: Bay and he started making them West Coast down South
Speaker 1: compilations and ship and then he he blew the funk
Speaker 1: up and set up shop down in the bathroom as well.
Speaker 1: Master he was in the Bay, which sucks sing after
Speaker 1: independent game. So yeah, y'all, y'all told us the independency
Speaker 1: ship like every time, it was just a no option thing. Though.
Speaker 1: Man if I had sucking Tommy Boy and motherfucking uh
Speaker 1: goddamn Profile Records was up the street. I've been up
Speaker 1: there telling my hooked me to funk up, but we
Speaker 1: didn't have it. So you guys got had to always
Speaker 1: look at New York people like, damn y'all lazy. How
Speaker 1: how y'all gotta deal on y'all in the city. I
Speaker 1: had a rap partner before, like eighty five. My rap
Speaker 1: partner got caught up in the in the crack game
Speaker 1: and we never heard this. Let's make some noise to
Speaker 1: do short for giving us the fred Freddy he was,
Speaker 1: he was popping. It was it was Freddie being too short.
Speaker 1: It was that nigga. That nigg was an Oakland nigga
Speaker 1: born in brand New Niggas on every side of the town.
Speaker 1: It was he was. He was like the plug for me,
Speaker 1: like just walking the streets with um. Yeah before that though, UM, okay,
Speaker 1: the weed is working because yeah, no, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. I this song with you back in
Speaker 1: the days. But for you to sit down and sit
Speaker 1: down and chill, because you know what this is. It's
Speaker 1: about letting legends live again. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is the Drink Dry podcast is about. And for
Speaker 1: you to just sit down and you not to deny
Speaker 1: me pass you the weed. I am very happy. My
Speaker 1: brother the guy has spoken up blood with too short interviewing,
Speaker 1: too short. Fun know this is a serious legend. Were
Speaker 1: like eighty four, me and Freddy B. We're talking about
Speaker 1: all right, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: two great hand tickets. We wrote down the list every
Speaker 1: motherfucking twelve inches that came out, every every single that
Speaker 1: dropped out of New York, all the different labels. We
Speaker 1: wrote down an address to the motherfucking label. Were like
Speaker 1: on the Greyhound, we're going these fucking address. We don't
Speaker 1: get us a record out like that was the That
Speaker 1: was the option. Listen all you knew niggers need to
Speaker 1: listen to what he just said. Oh my god, can't
Speaker 1: continue please, that's that's just a crazy story. These guys
Speaker 1: just stole it on the internet and just hope Kevin
Speaker 1: Lyles call them gag continue. Yeah, but you know it
Speaker 1: was going. We had plans, man like, it was like
Speaker 1: options and ship and then we got with that independent
Speaker 1: game and it should just happened like Dean. Dean showed
Speaker 1: me how to do it. I always give credit to
Speaker 1: him for it and what I did when I got it,
Speaker 1: I passed it. On to one of my homies. Okay
Speaker 1: to do who I am who came back around After
Speaker 1: I quit fucking with Dean, I still needed somebody to
Speaker 1: come with some money to make the dream come true.
Speaker 1: I knew how to do it, but I didn't have
Speaker 1: the money no more. So my man tear Bow hanning
Speaker 1: him and uh big ted little tear they got. They
Speaker 1: got a little rap in the street to Oakland. People
Speaker 1: know who that is. They they came through, put a
Speaker 1: nigger back in the game with the you know, studio
Speaker 1: time and being ever press up the ship and all
Speaker 1: that ship, and we just kind of we blew up
Speaker 1: from there. Man, we went to the next motherfucking level.
Speaker 1: We're just I'm just every every I think. It was
Speaker 1: like every fifteen racks would make me like sixty or
Speaker 1: some ship like that. Every fifteen racks you spend, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll make you six dealers. Listen to this pay attention.
Speaker 1: And it was clear legit money, and we we flip.
Speaker 1: We kept flipping it so many times. We just kept
Speaker 1: on getting this is when you're just in though. We
Speaker 1: go buy fifteen thousand casents and selling for sixty racks,
Speaker 1: and we did that. Give you the upper handle when
Speaker 1: the Drive came knocking. Yeah, but all we wanted from
Speaker 1: Drive with distribution the way we did the Ship, we
Speaker 1: just we just want to get a different deal though,
Speaker 1: compared to like someone in New York that was signing
Speaker 1: the Drive because trip we thought we did in the
Speaker 1: long the mother's slick man, because that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 1: We got. We had some ship, and we had to
Speaker 1: bullshit too. But it's cool. We we've met a lot
Speaker 1: of money. How you've been in the job. How many
Speaker 1: years I was on that motherfucker from Hue eighty eight
Speaker 1: until like goddamn damn me in two thousand and it
Speaker 1: was a long time. Let's make some money A long time.
Speaker 1: A lot of moms that a lot of motherfuckers. You
Speaker 1: don't have fun on job. Let me say it's funny day.
Speaker 1: So I wrapped a long time before I got a deal.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of ship before I gotta deal.
Speaker 1: I gotta deal in eight eight, and I had been
Speaker 1: rapping like seven eight years already, So I had all
Speaker 1: these rap songs that I put out in the streets
Speaker 1: to people new and love. When I signed the Jive,
Speaker 1: it shot me to check the albums win nationwide checks
Speaker 1: came back, you know the Royal Teaching ship that shot
Speaker 1: the next up front. I'm like, nigga, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: we was getting money, grinding, hustling. I was like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: this niggers gonna keep sending me hundreds of thousands if
Speaker 1: I make songs. Nigga. I went back until I had
Speaker 1: a box. Well, I didn't have a rap book. I
Speaker 1: had a box full of wraps I've been right in
Speaker 1: for years and just little tapes in the street. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't that box and recycle every motherfucking line in there,
Speaker 1: but I would just scratch out the line if I
Speaker 1: use it. I was using them old wraps for the
Speaker 1: next eight years. Should I wrote for eight years prior,
Speaker 1: I used for eight years. In my deal, I put
Speaker 1: out an album probably every nine months. And now, what
Speaker 1: would you getta see to yourself more of a wrapper
Speaker 1: or more of a CEO and the hustler. Well, as
Speaker 1: far as rap goes, I think I'm a real, real
Speaker 1: major hip hop fan and I always put myself outside
Speaker 1: the circle of what I'm calling hip hop niggas. Was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they nigga spit them bars. You know that ship, Like
Speaker 1: I was strictly just pounding in the trunk, talking ship.
Speaker 1: And I could have taught a lot of niggas, no
Speaker 1: matter what the integrity of you as a man, I
Speaker 1: could have taught you how to talk that ship and
Speaker 1: make that ship pound. You would have had a million
Speaker 1: fans like me, like it just was you talk shit.
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm saying ship talking versus spitting bars and
Speaker 1: all this ship and being a rapper. But see, oh man,
Speaker 1: I look at it like we hustlers, man, because we
Speaker 1: we we started company, and we don't say you're my boss,
Speaker 1: and that like were hustling to get this money doing something.
Speaker 1: We didn't drop niggas off on the way. Because we're
Speaker 1: hustling and getting money. It's a lot of money coming
Speaker 1: in and niggas like call me when you're going to lunch,
Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, we're up at seven in
Speaker 1: the morning pressing up ship and picking up ship and
Speaker 1: moving it around, you know, and we and we partied
Speaker 1: all last night, but we're up in the morning grinding
Speaker 1: getting the ship to where we can get these checks back.
Speaker 1: I always thought about bank deposits. Yeah you need to
Speaker 1: be you need to be making more money, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you have took that in the bank. I need to
Speaker 1: try to put that in the bank, so I'll put
Speaker 1: that on my mattress. I'm a foul, don't. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how the fund can we make get to the bank
Speaker 1: and put money in? Uh? We? So we're grinding man
Speaker 1: like the Nias done at that same black minded philosophy.
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Speaker 1: Rapper and R and d Jes. Then, now, how did
Speaker 1: you get the minutes to Society Brow? How did you
Speaker 1: because you just don't are you handing? Really? Okay? The
Speaker 1: Hughes brothers, this is what I think happened. The brothers
Speaker 1: are a really real big Bay Area hip hop fans
Speaker 1: and they from Pomona somewhere in l A. They love
Speaker 1: Bay rapped there to say this is what they told me.
Speaker 1: And Tupac had just funked off his partner movie by
Speaker 1: beating one of the brothers. So, um so Park was
Speaker 1: off the movie. And if you notice, it's not a
Speaker 1: lot of star power. You got but Park didn't have
Speaker 1: your role. No no, no, no, no, he didn't he
Speaker 1: had You're supposed to be the it that was. So
Speaker 1: they needed a little star power and they just uh
Speaker 1: they strictly just brought me into that they could have
Speaker 1: like somebody name branding that motherfuckering. Then they they just
Speaker 1: happened to be major too short fans if you noticed,
Speaker 1: they came and got me for their next little documentary movie.
Speaker 1: Uh what was it called? American pamp Oh? Yes, and
Speaker 1: let me set you though, you're supposed to be in there,
Speaker 1: go ahead. So it was it was just a matter
Speaker 1: that man, I came in there and work for a
Speaker 1: few days and kicked it. That minister Society, the cold
Speaker 1: ass movie. You had the coldest role in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they learning you know, I'm not that was a cold world.
Speaker 1: I'm not only pulled the trap on no dog, that's
Speaker 1: the movie. Let's make some noise and put on trap
Speaker 1: roll dog. That's a fact that that's I mean for us,
Speaker 1: especially us from New York. Um. You know, when we've
Speaker 1: seen you, when we see n Way, when we've seen
Speaker 1: many society boys in the hood, that's when we actually
Speaker 1: realize y'all culture because we knew that hip hop. I
Speaker 1: think comment had made the record. I love her, and
Speaker 1: but when they went over there, yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: love But when it went over there, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so different. And for me everything was about buildings. Everything
Speaker 1: was about like when I see in the face ye
Speaker 1: and you chopped it up and this was the craziest
Speaker 1: thing to see you guys in your element. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but but the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: you was from South Central and then you went up
Speaker 1: north North North Cow, so you called it up North
Speaker 1: and North Yeah, north count Two different worlds, two different
Speaker 1: The Mexican gangs they divide them, the slang words, the
Speaker 1: dress come wow yeah makes you could adapt to both
Speaker 1: worlds still. I mean to this day, to this day,
Speaker 1: you can still love that. I an't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: had a promoter hit me one time and it was
Speaker 1: a It was a lady. It was like, you want
Speaker 1: too short at the easiest people to um handle, and
Speaker 1: I was like, why is that? It was like, you
Speaker 1: don't ask for here and make up. They just want
Speaker 1: the land and we miss the diva ship. What's Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, what's the pick up? You can
Speaker 1: take that where did Mike at how it makes you
Speaker 1: need one? So that but after minutes, how did your
Speaker 1: life change? Because that had to be the biggest music
Speaker 1: movie at that time. Man, I ain't gonna lie. Man,
Speaker 1: what I had going on at that moment was bigger
Speaker 1: than that movie. My Ship was platinum, platinum, platinum, that movie.
Speaker 1: That movie like some side shout, I wouldn't there was
Speaker 1: a side. It was a slot. I was already popping
Speaker 1: so that the movie came out hit hard, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was one of the ones that kind of like
Speaker 1: Purple Rain kind of movie where kind of lasted and
Speaker 1: lasted and lasting. We don't go still last. You watch
Speaker 1: it right now on TV or you know, and edited
Speaker 1: it's still it's the Ship movie. The boys made a
Speaker 1: good movie. But you know, man, that whole New York
Speaker 1: West Coast thing I used to I used to go
Speaker 1: to New York. What you're telling me now? Like I
Speaker 1: used to go to New York. And I know for
Speaker 1: a fact it wasn't really about the music, because motherfucker's like, man,
Speaker 1: I really needn't hear too much that you did. But
Speaker 1: they'd be like man, respect some respect, kids like like
Speaker 1: it would be it was the fact then it was
Speaker 1: a nationalize just like if you're the man, you're the
Speaker 1: man in your hood. So I asked my New Yorkers,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean that they keep saying respect?
Speaker 1: They like they're showing you love. Like it's just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, ship, that's that's a big deal for New
Speaker 1: Yorker says that you respect. So I was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't about the music, and and you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of um, I kind of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I started hanging out in New York a little bit.
Speaker 1: Man after a WI they love you in New York.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but you know,
Speaker 1: the whistle blow, the whistle come on. Getting in the
Speaker 1: studios though in New York moving around, I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't been on I've been on three jay Z albums,
Speaker 1: two big albums. Going in was it was going in?
Speaker 1: How did that first feel? Like? You know, Jay wanted
Speaker 1: to mess with you. You're all the way on the
Speaker 1: other side of the coast and he wanted I got
Speaker 1: I got the B I G blessing the I G.
Speaker 1: Just he was what you worked your big before, JA,
Speaker 1: or do you work with big first? And then he
Speaker 1: told me this ship. Man, he told me this ship
Speaker 1: the first time I met him. He can't. He called
Speaker 1: me over to a limo where was at the outcast
Speaker 1: picnic and Limos was popping back, nig a limo right now?
Speaker 1: If you fucked up, you put up in a limo.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody niggas Like who who's sucking Bob Dylan up
Speaker 1: right now? Like yeah, But back then, I understand that
Speaker 1: Limos was that They caught me up to the limo
Speaker 1: and you know, rolling winder that and I walked leaning
Speaker 1: over and it's it's a friendly event outdoor, you know,
Speaker 1: this matching this ship on the on the front line
Speaker 1: of background all around the house and ship, and he
Speaker 1: caught me over and he just said, yo, yo, you
Speaker 1: got love in Brooklyn. That's all he said. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: what's up? So then a couple of years later, Niga
Speaker 1: is a super making stuff. But but hold on because
Speaker 1: I want your continior story. But did you know how
Speaker 1: much New York loved you? Because New York loved you?
Speaker 1: And That's what I'm getting at. It was it was
Speaker 1: a gradual you know understanding that I didn't even I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting it for a minute. Okay, so um he
Speaker 1: told me that ship and then a couple of years
Speaker 1: later we're sitting on the tour of us spoken some weed.
Speaker 1: He was like, you remember that time you came on
Speaker 1: to the limits like you gotta love in Brooklyn? He
Speaker 1: said that was me. I'm like, damn, you know, like
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, so he wasn't biggie when he
Speaker 1: told you that. He probably was already had his deal
Speaker 1: and ship. He was a party, but he was some
Speaker 1: noise for two short breaking the story and off, Oh
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you met Big before he was big
Speaker 1: and he told you you had loving Brooklyn and you
Speaker 1: see him later that later on we started being homies
Speaker 1: and ship. We're making songs. We did that Out of
Speaker 1: the World is field Hose so too short? You keep
Speaker 1: making me pop my collar the whole episode of making
Speaker 1: your Sight. I just I've been like that and now
Speaker 1: I'm a hyphian because I go out there recently. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna ride the river every Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Big just we we just became friends, man, And you know,
Speaker 1: he he told me about how how New Yorker is
Speaker 1: for the most part, wasn't really feeling like listening to
Speaker 1: any other hip hop outside New York and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: I've been listening to everything though. He was plaming Ship
Speaker 1: like he listened all down South Ship and he was like,
Speaker 1: I like him. I like Ship. So so he was
Speaker 1: one of them cats who was open without any kind
Speaker 1: of bias, and he um he wanted to work, like,
Speaker 1: let's do a song. And then the way I did
Speaker 1: this song with him and he sent Puffy to come
Speaker 1: get me. You're like, you know, like Puffers that you
Speaker 1: can't say no kind of nigger. So puff was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know Big want you on the song. I've never
Speaker 1: been able to say no toll to this day. And
Speaker 1: he was like people think he had a soft he
Speaker 1: was a bully. Man, He's a bully. He's a bullet.
Speaker 1: This this is a funny story that Big came to
Speaker 1: the Oakland and I think somebody took his chain. I
Speaker 1: ain't heard that one. Didn't heard that one. You didn't
Speaker 1: heard that one. I heard forty helped that out. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I moved to Atlanta was talking about
Speaker 1: the Atlanta movement. You were responsible from Atlanta being the
Speaker 1: pipin country. Atta what wait, Eric sermon, we moved to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You moved to Atlanta early? What year did you move?
Speaker 1: Is that why they got strip clubs in Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: didn't move to Atlanta for the music industry. I moved
Speaker 1: to that motherfucker for the for the property, the culture
Speaker 1: that I was. I was down there. It was it
Speaker 1: was like easy math. It was real estate was like
Speaker 1: one fourth of what California ship table dances at the
Speaker 1: strip of how much in California that the ratio of
Speaker 1: women and men was like on even one it was
Speaker 1: going down and it was just it was like you
Speaker 1: was the first person to crack the outlets, some noise
Speaker 1: for him to crack the out you know. Now you
Speaker 1: know who beat me? There was some things that beat me.
Speaker 1: Eric Simon showed up like a little bit before me.
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown was acting brown. He was atron
Speaker 1: was sucking everything he was in that motherfucker I got
Speaker 1: sucking everything. It was his prerogative, it was his proa man.
Speaker 1: He was sucking everything. I ain't got everywhere like I
Speaker 1: was a little nigga. See everybody brow like whoever. I
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna suck him the night? Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I got Yeah. So you know Dallas
Speaker 1: Austin was starting his ship. He was. He was involved
Speaker 1: with the whole TELC come up. L A Read was
Speaker 1: already and then he had the glove one when you
Speaker 1: met him, nothing good. I don't know he were in
Speaker 1: gloves or spikes and ship. He's a little different. He
Speaker 1: was rocking ron Dallas back. He was a rock star.
Speaker 1: He was. He's a rock star. He's always That's what
Speaker 1: I was trying to establish. So you know, he's old
Speaker 1: g He helped me out. La Ray was who he
Speaker 1: is because he was all of that that. The face
Speaker 1: was there, he had Tony Braxton ship already been platting.
Speaker 1: He had like artist Tony Terry, he was the face
Speaker 1: was established and then there was no outcasts. It wasn't
Speaker 1: no giddy mobs, wasn't you know. Criss Cross probably had
Speaker 1: like you know, a single or some ship. The new ship.
Speaker 1: They were still jumping around and ship. I got there
Speaker 1: right when it started. Gucci Crew, I think on I
Speaker 1: got you know, the tag team was bawling and the
Speaker 1: Face Records, yeah you heard that just now. He was
Speaker 1: at the Face Records. They never offered me ship. Let's
Speaker 1: just make some noise for too short for raping the industry.
Speaker 1: Come on, so, I mean I was just there for
Speaker 1: young Atlanta. You know the architecture, what coming from coming
Speaker 1: from you're born, You're born in South Central to Oakland
Speaker 1: and now you in the Land and then eyeball Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I'm at the freakneck like what I'm come back? Did
Speaker 1: you realize that this was born to be the music scene?
Speaker 1: You was just out there. I went to the I
Speaker 1: had already been touring out there doing doing concerts and
Speaker 1: ship and then we're gonna Magic City and around. I
Speaker 1: knew the lifestyle. Now Magic City is where Players Club
Speaker 1: is based on that it could be what what did
Speaker 1: you feel like when you've seen the Players Club? Was
Speaker 1: that true to you or to the lifestyle? I was
Speaker 1: living Cuba's my nigger to the lifestyles living. That's very
Speaker 1: water down strip club experience in that movie. I've never
Speaker 1: really seen a strip club to give you a movie
Speaker 1: to give you that real fucking strip club feeling that real.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna make the Moor drink chaps, We're gonna
Speaker 1: make the movie together. I never captured that the real
Speaker 1: strip club experience. And now all you're saying in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area. Now I'm talking aboutwhere it's a whack on
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I don't I don't even strip clubs
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. I forget Miami. We got it here, man,
Speaker 1: we got no I ain't gonna lie Miami. You ain't
Speaker 1: doing if you ain't doing it like Miami or Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Miami cities like Dallas, and if the best don't get
Speaker 1: button and you can have a drink in the same building,
Speaker 1: it's bullshit. Let's make some noise for too short Norman
Speaker 1: about the real strip cloth strip right there is in
Speaker 1: New York the time to time to go to sus
Speaker 1: Wanda boos and you know, I'm like, it's a strip
Speaker 1: club in l a with a bitch, um a bitch
Speaker 1: where three pairs of panties. She barely get topless for
Speaker 1: a minute. She keeps poking the titty out and then
Speaker 1: every time the bitch pull her panties back, it's another
Speaker 1: pair of panties under it. If I was in the hotel,
Speaker 1: that would work for me. Put in the strip club
Speaker 1: with nic I'm in Atlanta, man, I'm getting there, you know,
Speaker 1: before I moved there. And you're like, you get a
Speaker 1: dance right, she can't. You say, can I get a dance?
Speaker 1: And you say, let me see that pussy? So she
Speaker 1: before you even get the dance, you're like, let me
Speaker 1: just see what I'm getting into, and then you go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to dance based on if you like what
Speaker 1: you see. You ain't doing that at no. You know
Speaker 1: the other joints, you know, sometimes they call the strip clubs.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't call them naked clubs because girls don't even strip,
Speaker 1: they wear nothing. They only call them. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie with some clubs. They walk around but as naked
Speaker 1: you don't even have to have a top of bottom.
Speaker 1: She just walking around already naked. I'm not gonna She
Speaker 1: thought I was a pimp for a week. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out for me. I was, It wouldn't bet for me.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. I just I got compassion.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because should be a p you can't
Speaker 1: have nothing. You can't have no like you know, I
Speaker 1: really feel like I could be a really good pimp,
Speaker 1: but I got this other good ass job called rapping.
Speaker 1: I can't got that. Every time you dabble in some
Speaker 1: pimping and this is getting a few gee, she's getting
Speaker 1: some geezs bringing him Like you just did all that
Speaker 1: stressing me to funk out, And that wasn't number two
Speaker 1: shovels to me because they can't they can't touch the
Speaker 1: money they're supposed to bring the money back. That's a
Speaker 1: real pimp. So you're just having a good month. You
Speaker 1: get uh walking around this now you get like fifteens
Speaker 1: out the bush of the Mother. That's a few shows.
Speaker 1: That's a couple of shows. That's nothing. She's gonna stretch
Speaker 1: you the funk out. Yeah, yeah, you're right, keep that ship.
Speaker 1: You do a show? My dig sucked after So how
Speaker 1: does it feel, Christophirst? Because you you did a song
Speaker 1: with jay Z and Biggie Small and multiple songs and
Speaker 1: bok Yeah and Snoop. How that's That's something I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of in a career, super super super g and
Speaker 1: in a career, I am that all those guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, legends on their way one or
Speaker 1: the other. But when we're all going, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I just want to be in that. Not many people
Speaker 1: and bone doogs too, Right, did we do a song?
Speaker 1: I'm not just many songs. I don't even know maybe
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna the homies up we did. Just told
Speaker 1: you I did a song on your album. You don't
Speaker 1: even remember. He was sitting there like work you did
Speaker 1: when you did so much song, You're all we got
Speaker 1: to bang that song? What then was the hook I
Speaker 1: pull about my phone? Right now? People believe you having
Speaker 1: But short man, how you like um all these years?
Speaker 1: How do you maintain your love for hip hop? How
Speaker 1: does that happen? Because I like that new ship ain't
Speaker 1: gonna like I like you like, I like what it happens.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the new right now. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about every time, the new, every time to change,
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're the nigger, it's it's like sports,
Speaker 1: just like the fucking head. When you're the nigga and
Speaker 1: that next nigger come up like the super stud and
Speaker 1: start getting a little more attending you, you start feeling
Speaker 1: the kind of way and you still feel the same
Speaker 1: that nigga though before I'm like, I'm not nigga, who's
Speaker 1: getting money? Who If I see a young nigga getting it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga getting get it? Nigger, Like that's real, man,
Speaker 1: Because you understand what you just said, some noise for
Speaker 1: that guy. Everybody, camerady, that's real because I'm promoting that ship.
Speaker 1: Let's all get it. Let's get it, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then when you get it, you're wrong
Speaker 1: if you don't pass it on. It's all wrong. If
Speaker 1: you don't share this some kind of way, don't give
Speaker 1: it away, but teach the next nigger how to how
Speaker 1: to get it too, because you always have fun with
Speaker 1: the game. Like every time I've seen you, I don't
Speaker 1: care where I see you are. You're walking through you
Speaker 1: looking good. You know what I'm saying. Like there's other
Speaker 1: people who don't do that. You know what happens. Those
Speaker 1: blessings they come around. Man, it's come back around. There's
Speaker 1: been a time in my life where ship was sucked up.
Speaker 1: That's some fun up ship. And then somebody who I
Speaker 1: showed that love to, it's like, what's wrong? Bam? You know?
Speaker 1: And instantly and then O for the love And how
Speaker 1: about my man Mr fabi mus for Mr Faber's that's
Speaker 1: like my son, let's make noise for Mr Fabian too,
Speaker 1: short side. We just saw him. And then something south
Speaker 1: was with cows. Oh yeah, thirty years of round cows that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my name, that's my brother. Thirty years of rapping.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I'm like, we get we're getting money other ways.
Speaker 1: We can do this ship with it without the microphone.
Speaker 1: We can get down right, but you still enjoy what
Speaker 1: you do. Flab came to me and uh it was like,
Speaker 1: man've been rapped the thirty years. You gotta make an albums.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing an album called the thirtieth Anniversary. And
Speaker 1: and my man came in there kind of a and
Speaker 1: on my album for me, just you know, just kind
Speaker 1: of just kind of like a beautiful thing, whole bunch
Speaker 1: of ship. We're doing the hoods and ship and just
Speaker 1: just just like putting Nick in shape, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you get a nick in shape right right, you gotta
Speaker 1: nig in shape for get ass album. So I got
Speaker 1: I'm an old ass snake. I just turned fifty, like
Speaker 1: last Thursday, turn fifty, got damage and then her motherfucking fifty.
Speaker 1: We had caress one here and he had to all
Speaker 1: peak cars. It's correct, yea man, you know my age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely said he's fifty. Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely said
Speaker 1: he's fifty. Ain't nothing wrong, but you know what's crazy
Speaker 1: short you you look young, you're doing young ship and
Speaker 1: you still have the love for it. Like I could
Speaker 1: look at you when I asked you these questions. You
Speaker 1: really still love hip hop? No, it's the hustle thing.
Speaker 1: I'm about to get on the mic and wrap in
Speaker 1: front of the crowd tonight. It ain't ship tonight. I
Speaker 1: grabbed the mic and live last night, Yeah and live.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I was so tired that we
Speaker 1: had a long. We had a long. I wish I
Speaker 1: knew you was there. So you never lost your love
Speaker 1: for hip hop now once? Not for wrap now No, No,
Speaker 1: because you could be a lean with a rock with
Speaker 1: and like that. They Okay, look you gotta you got
Speaker 1: a bunch of motherfucker's that like this new weird ship.
Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. That's what you're seeing. Ship is weird.
Speaker 1: How his motherfucker's like it. I try to get around
Speaker 1: and figure out what is it that they like. It
Speaker 1: must be the infectious beat, it must be the catchy,
Speaker 1: it must be the way to make you dance. It's
Speaker 1: something good about it. So I like, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: I get it. I try to get it, like why
Speaker 1: did you nigga is dressing all weird? Oh I get it,
Speaker 1: if it makes sense if you're dressing all weird, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't get that part. But they don't
Speaker 1: want to be like us kids and their defense when
Speaker 1: you look at the like the first pitches of hip hop,
Speaker 1: the first it was dressing. But guess what these little
Speaker 1: niggas that we're calling weird right now is just trying
Speaker 1: to look like the eighties with the Golden ship. So
Speaker 1: so with that being said and you being a pimp,
Speaker 1: you're being a real nigger. I've never heard too short.
Speaker 1: And the controversy other than when you ran from bullies.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. What happened when you ran from bullies?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. I was in that l a.
Speaker 1: I had an apartment. I had an apartment right across
Speaker 1: the street from right here from where I was running
Speaker 1: from side. I was about to dip up in the spot.
Speaker 1: And then it's nothing that ain't been done before. You
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. I'm just saying that it was crazy.
Speaker 1: We walked the line, but we walked the line. I
Speaker 1: talked to that brother, I was like, man, I did
Speaker 1: all the tests, all this ship I wasn't even drunk.
Speaker 1: I was like it had been it was three thirty,
Speaker 1: the drinking that stopped a while ago. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: walk these bitches to that car, okay, because the bitches
Speaker 1: ship is for real. Let's make some noise keeping it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I can't call these bitches bitches
Speaker 1: because after I got all the trouble, they never called
Speaker 1: back once and said, okay, listen, it was just bitches
Speaker 1: I met that night. Walked these bitches to the car.
Speaker 1: I said, no, you know what, I live right over there.
Speaker 1: It's like about a block and a half. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: drive it all over this three hang out on my spot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive you all over there. Drove him over
Speaker 1: there and hit a little you turn to come back
Speaker 1: and turn the light on me. He made me do
Speaker 1: all this ship. And you know, the nigga who saw
Speaker 1: the video of the TMZ was like one of the
Speaker 1: security dudes from the club I was. It was all
Speaker 1: right there in the neighborhood that was like a supper
Speaker 1: club I went to that night Tuesday night. I'm like,
Speaker 1: even even then, they got heard the nigger sell the
Speaker 1: video for like five hundred days like we would have
Speaker 1: gave him five thousand, like that bullshit you got there.
Speaker 1: But it was some good press though, Like I do
Speaker 1: like the good press that you get when you get
Speaker 1: to Yeah, but is it the first time you realize
Speaker 1: the power Internet or you've been new to the power.
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I realized. I was
Speaker 1: in my forties, because you get the building. I said, dude,
Speaker 1: I live right there. I said, you got my car.
Speaker 1: I said, I'll leave this motherfucker here. Whatever, man, just this,
Speaker 1: I live right there. You know. He's like, you gotta
Speaker 1: blow for me, like man, I told. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: I might not. I was drinking earlier. I just I
Speaker 1: told the whole story. I'm like, sucking right there. A
Speaker 1: lot of times. The copy like, all right, man, just
Speaker 1: you know, leave the car here, you know, go home.
Speaker 1: This things like you gotta blow. I was like, is
Speaker 1: that my only option? That was the last thing I
Speaker 1: asked you could, did you know. I mean, honestly, that's
Speaker 1: one of the ones I regret because I have some
Speaker 1: converse low cut um um, the Chuck chillers, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's, Yeah, you can't run to those. And I
Speaker 1: was I was just mad because I was like, those
Speaker 1: are like the Kanye West news leagues. You're running those
Speaker 1: it's over. You think I had like another broad still
Speaker 1: at the spot, I'm like, I gotta get back. It
Speaker 1: ain't over. It like going up. So that's just real deal.
Speaker 1: You really have broads, Like wherever every city you go,
Speaker 1: you have broads or or you stop that. That's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you like this at this at this stage
Speaker 1: in the game, I'm not trying to be young short
Speaker 1: dog anymore. I'm not doing this. I used to go
Speaker 1: when I go out, I'm like call of homies, like
Speaker 1: you know, hang out with a lot of chicks. I
Speaker 1: like eight time we go out. That was my normal.
Speaker 1: I might do some like that tonight, but really, uh tonight, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in Miami. You want me to hang
Speaker 1: with you tonight? I want to just see how it
Speaker 1: goes down. I'm in Miami, so I'm really not the one.
Speaker 1: You've been doing this in Miami for the long time,
Speaker 1: but I'm not coordinated. The chicks. It's like Miami is
Speaker 1: like you know, the girls they do it. They're just
Speaker 1: like you got the girls who could corded the girls
Speaker 1: and they just make some hot five five. For That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is back in the day, I would
Speaker 1: literally get in my phone and called like these two,
Speaker 1: those two those to meet me. I did that ship
Speaker 1: up until about three or four years ago. I kind
Speaker 1: of just like chilled it out a little bit. Now
Speaker 1: now I might go out with like two or three
Speaker 1: and just you know. Another secret to what I do
Speaker 1: is a lot of guys they try to funk all
Speaker 1: the women. I just try to hang out with him
Speaker 1: and just hang out to be cool and ship happened,
Speaker 1: were cool. It's that's you know's a secret weapon for
Speaker 1: you will Charlie Skins, he didn't secret who else you
Speaker 1: gotta tell? Sunday dB he knows about the make some
Speaker 1: noise for a horny if you're we gott Donald's let
Speaker 1: me call them all group like no crewe if you're
Speaker 1: a horny mantana like if you if you want to
Speaker 1: suck everything, you're like me personally. I've seen a couple
Speaker 1: of my horny dudes we in bur Burn, um let
Speaker 1: me pronounce this right, um Berlin, Germany. I've seen my
Speaker 1: my homie finger Papa bitch in the butt in the club,
Speaker 1: not in the club, in the butt. I say, slime,
Speaker 1: this is not this is I'm uncomfortable with this. I
Speaker 1: actually can't. I can't partake. He's like, no, this is
Speaker 1: how we're doing it, like in the butt. In the club,
Speaker 1: I gotta skill out, I gotta leave, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But there's a lot of horny people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's how pimps actually got a honey. I gotta honey.
Speaker 1: He he was kind of like kind of Timmy kind
Speaker 1: of guy. Man. It wasn't really like aggressive with the ladies,
Speaker 1: but then you know, he kind of had He's like
Speaker 1: a rock star kind of the kind of world. It's
Speaker 1: like ponytail ship like nigga and he wanted to hang
Speaker 1: out with us one night and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: you can't where we're going. You can't get down like that.
Speaker 1: So we literally sent the nigga somewhere he was He
Speaker 1: wasn't from Okland, but he was passing through. We sent
Speaker 1: the nigga down to where the pimps get their hair
Speaker 1: downe and ship and got him a pimp hair due
Speaker 1: out of his you know, last we turn we turned
Speaker 1: him into like on certain kind of clothes and then
Speaker 1: he got to the party. He's like, still the same nigga, Like,
Speaker 1: what do I do? Said the way you look, just
Speaker 1: walk up to every bit and say, I'm Mike bitch
Speaker 1: a right right, Boris guess we came back and tell
Speaker 1: me at the party later on, he said, nigga, that
Speaker 1: ship works. You know, I'm gonna be honest. I hung
Speaker 1: out with Bishop don for like a whole weekend. He
Speaker 1: had me gass right. So what happened was they gave
Speaker 1: me a famous player car. You remember the famished player car.
Speaker 1: It's gold. They gave me won seven on there and
Speaker 1: they asked me to come to the play ball. I
Speaker 1: got there and then you know, I'm on I'm I'm
Speaker 1: on road for real, like but I took two days
Speaker 1: out of my schedule. I walked into players Um playing ship.
Speaker 1: It was a white bitch that was I'm walking in.
Speaker 1: The white bitch said hey, how are you doing you?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even know if she asked me
Speaker 1: to take a picture. She asked me something and I said,
Speaker 1: bet you a better play I definitely didn't know, and
Speaker 1: she chose me. I said, bet you better choose. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I said that. In the b and
Speaker 1: Bishop darma Um what's my nigga? Juju, pimp juju, all
Speaker 1: of us trying to knock me. They said, your noriri,
Speaker 1: and then the white bitch kept saying about me, and
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what I did. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I did. You didn't get the memo? And
Speaker 1: then get the memo the pimp correctly, and then I
Speaker 1: wanted to pass off, but she really didn't want to
Speaker 1: be back. That nigga he got about. He always got
Speaker 1: about five or six holes. His bitches gotta stare at
Speaker 1: the ground and can't look up that he now was
Speaker 1: what about like breaking down. It's kind of funny though,
Speaker 1: because his bitches are sitting somewhere, even when they sit down,
Speaker 1: the whole Chinese. They can never look up. They have
Speaker 1: to look at the ground, and they'd be sitting there
Speaker 1: talking to each other. And then if you dare like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little crazy guy. So I just
Speaker 1: try to funk with him and break a little bit,
Speaker 1: like how y'all doing. They can't speak to no outside
Speaker 1: man nothing. They can't crazy. That's him out. That's just
Speaker 1: like you wearing your jury. He's wearing. He's showing you
Speaker 1: his pimpen. He's like I could have told him, bitches
Speaker 1: to look straight at here. I could have told him
Speaker 1: just the circle down, look that, don't never look up,
Speaker 1: don't talk to anybody except me or each other. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. And that's just just how I knew
Speaker 1: I I wasn't ready for Pippen because my white bitch
Speaker 1: did that. My white bitches just like she wouldn't say
Speaker 1: I was prim jews ring pimpen kid and they both
Speaker 1: accept to me and said, he said, you play. You
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing right now. I said, like God,
Speaker 1: I would't main leave alone, and she just kept looking.
Speaker 1: That's how I knew she was more spread. Nigga pimp
Speaker 1: and nig have pamp game and are of it. We're doing.
Speaker 1: It's a difference pimping and having pimp game because I
Speaker 1: like the way you broke that's. Having pamp game means
Speaker 1: that I probably could apply it. But I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: doing another ship. I don't don't even stressful, man, stressful,
Speaker 1: break that down it Then you tell you're telling the
Speaker 1: woman to do the stuff she's doing. There are fucking
Speaker 1: like repercussions to that ship. Man, mentally, like if its
Speaker 1: people's heads up. So you what doing with that ship
Speaker 1: because you're telling them to go on the call and
Speaker 1: you're saying, don't funk with nobody with me. So when
Speaker 1: every time every emotion she goes through is coming to you.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. After they do that
Speaker 1: they give you the money, do you have to make
Speaker 1: them feel like your girlfriend? Like they gotta feel up,
Speaker 1: you gotta do they go, You gotta do this ship.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of ship. Like if you want to
Speaker 1: really actually your chick, if you want to be a
Speaker 1: boss pam you have to be focused. That's what you do.
Speaker 1: I've never heard this term because you say boss pamp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that means you're in control. You want to on a
Speaker 1: run for a while. You got you can go to
Speaker 1: another state. But she's still You're still the boss pimper.
Speaker 1: You know. They called that long range pamper her anywhere,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on long range paper. I heard a
Speaker 1: long rage five your hold me over there be like
Speaker 1: long range in Hawaii. You fly back to l A
Speaker 1: and you come back three months later. And she got
Speaker 1: like forty seven thousand and just be like here she did.
Speaker 1: She didn't protected the money, she didn't protected herself and now, now,
Speaker 1: do you have to have sex with these women or
Speaker 1: you just you could just so this this is where
Speaker 1: I get sucked up. Bring it down for me short,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna let just called it the lame miss. Now.
Speaker 1: I've always considered myself to be a pimp and a player.
Speaker 1: I do have the pimp game, but I don't want
Speaker 1: what is the difference with piper a player player? You
Speaker 1: just you got the game to just run a bunch
Speaker 1: of chicks, but you don't want any interest in their
Speaker 1: money or them selling that you're just a player. Okay,
Speaker 1: get money, you're getting You're getting salad. Actually yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I consider myself to be a pimper player. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I don't really Yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't have to. Um sure, I'm not gonna lie. You
Speaker 1: made me pop my collar like seventeen hundred times. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep popping. We'll put that. You know, if you
Speaker 1: got to really get a lot of games just playing back,
Speaker 1: listen to it. It's you know the game in there,
Speaker 1: like you really studying it goes by Mary my Mama's
Speaker 1: I'm a lame. I'm sorry, but but in my trying
Speaker 1: to be a pimp, like every time I go to sleep, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to. But we are we are always
Speaker 1: students of life. We are get down, always learning, were
Speaker 1: always learning. You know what I was gonna tell you
Speaker 1: by my Puerto Rican just in case you thought I
Speaker 1: was Dominican. But it's okay. It's a New York story.
Speaker 1: Many in New York. Let's do it, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: But I was, you wouldn't baby Dominican reproblic I had
Speaker 1: a little of New York too. I had a little
Speaker 1: running with them with the hip hop. Holy sniggers, hit me,
Speaker 1: hit me up in a taxi, abs and and just
Speaker 1: they had like we had to strap in the car
Speaker 1: and we gotta like a little answer week. We used
Speaker 1: to go up to him. We used to go up
Speaker 1: to the candy shop in Harlem and you know get
Speaker 1: they got called it the candy shop. We know what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the jaws or in the motherfucker try and go
Speaker 1: bang and look at my man, Eddie, God bless today.
Speaker 1: You know he died. Eddie looked first off, let me
Speaker 1: just let me just stop too short right now. He
Speaker 1: just fossed onto everybody on a real New York and
Speaker 1: this is the in the real New York Times. He
Speaker 1: just mentioned Branson. What you say daytime in Branson, Eddie Eddie,
Speaker 1: that's who run the spot. That was my nigger continuous story.
Speaker 1: So you know, we we we're riding around the ship
Speaker 1: and the niggas pull us over and these sucking taxi cabs,
Speaker 1: none of them got on uniforms, sucking up, flashing badges
Speaker 1: and ship. They actually take us out, put us. It's
Speaker 1: four niggas in the truck. They put each of us
Speaker 1: in a different cab. And I get in there, like
Speaker 1: three niggas in each cab. They jumped in my truck.
Speaker 1: Drive the motherfucker and we go to like some thirty
Speaker 1: seven street precincts, some ship somewhere every six thirty seven
Speaker 1: and and uh and then and they get ended up basically,
Speaker 1: and they ended up at a center street that one
Speaker 1: street down there, and I passed by a you was
Speaker 1: in the reel. That's the first first off, right now,
Speaker 1: if they lock you up up there, they have a
Speaker 1: preaching that they bring you to. That means that back
Speaker 1: in the days, they had to lock you up up
Speaker 1: there and bring you own. So, yeah, we're in there.
Speaker 1: Listen about a day and a half on the day.
Speaker 1: Then they got built out little later. But I walked
Speaker 1: by this one holding tank and I've seen these jet
Speaker 1: jet black ass niggers, like black ass nappy head niggas
Speaker 1: in and they're all speaking Spanish. And now this was
Speaker 1: like that ship weird to me, the funk out I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I thought they was black. I didn't, I didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the West coast, on the West coast, we got
Speaker 1: no nappy heads, don't have many. You don't see much yesterday,
Speaker 1: but yesterday's black under me. I'm saying, we don't have
Speaker 1: nappy head niggass, right, So I get back up, I
Speaker 1: get out of jail, I go up to drive records.
Speaker 1: I was like, I've seen the weirdest ship in jail.
Speaker 1: Speak Spanish here the Dominicans. That's too short, making goddamn
Speaker 1: hold on. After that, after that, I made a point,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna meet some of these Spanish niggas,
Speaker 1: like for real. I meant that the Dominican niggas right
Speaker 1: at the gas chation and they popped at me. Up
Speaker 1: some man, we know you made me too short. You know,
Speaker 1: random ship that happens in New York I don't get
Speaker 1: spotted a lot back then, back to day in New York,
Speaker 1: and uh, they said that they got to get weed,
Speaker 1: and they sent me up to um. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I just you know, you get And then basically, if
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to Branson, I was going up there,
Speaker 1: but I smoke New York. Last listen, let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. This this is now listen. Listen. Well he
Speaker 1: just broke down for you. There's people in New York
Speaker 1: who couldn't get weed and Branson because you had to
Speaker 1: have a certain type of plot and to be accepted.
Speaker 1: You have to be accepted in Branson. One time I
Speaker 1: went in Branson, Red Man was back there serving the weed.
Speaker 1: That man. Make some noise for red Man. Damn it on.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you took me there, I was out, you know.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one time I went to Branson. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real with you, too short. It's one
Speaker 1: of my idols. It's gonna hurt me to tell a story,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell the story. I went up there.
Speaker 1: It's the Puerto Rican bree. I'm Puerto Rican. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: half Puerto Rican. But I'm just giving you. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So but
Speaker 1: this day I'm Puerto Rican, right, So I go to
Speaker 1: Brant and I bought my ship. Bobby Brown pull up
Speaker 1: in the six hundred bens. To me, it was like
Speaker 1: Prince when he pulled up, purple smoke pulled out. It
Speaker 1: was a six DNS. I was like, damn, like you know,
Speaker 1: I know niggas got six hundred beans is, but I
Speaker 1: ain't actually seen it. Bobby Brown pulls up, right, bro ts,
Speaker 1: what's something nigg So he pulls up boom, Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: boss up. So he goes in Branson. I'm sitting there like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, Bobby motherfucking Brown. He looked at me though,
Speaker 1: he looked at me like a miss, like like I'm
Speaker 1: right here. He looked at me like this, and then
Speaker 1: he goes in Braston. Right. I'm like, damn, Nickas just
Speaker 1: like you to say, like, I don't know the dig
Speaker 1: eyes right next to my Chad. Right, Bobby Brown comes
Speaker 1: out and then he goes, yo, it's the Portagan Day parade, right,
Speaker 1: I think me pun Joe, we all on the float
Speaker 1: this day, but I had took a break afterwards. I
Speaker 1: finished what we had to do. When I went up
Speaker 1: town and then Bobby Brown said to me, this is
Speaker 1: mad racist, by the way, he said for me the racist.
Speaker 1: He said to me, ain't you Puerto Rican? He said yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, you ain't got no cold coin. It was like,
Speaker 1: happens because you got You gotta realize in New York City,
Speaker 1: if you're from New York City, it's a cup. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of us here. When the port we parade
Speaker 1: shut down, like uptown to the right, it's shut down too,
Speaker 1: because they all over there. And so when they went there,
Speaker 1: I guess Bobby went there. He couldn't He couldn't get
Speaker 1: nothing from the coke spy. So he said you ain't
Speaker 1: you ain't your Puerto Rican? And I'm like yeah, He's like,
Speaker 1: take me over there. I was like, damn, why why
Speaker 1: do you think I could get you to coke because
Speaker 1: of Buerto Rican? Let's make some noise your body bround
Speaker 1: for being a wash that got bad. There's a positive
Speaker 1: side of that story. This was here. The positive. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's who is he with? He was with his security? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I know I know the nigga sometimes to be like
Speaker 1: without security with that same bands riding up in any
Speaker 1: motherfucking head. Bobby takes a certain cloth to be that
Speaker 1: kind of nigga, to be that kind of nigga. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You said, come on, we would
Speaker 1: have went with you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm luckily I did
Speaker 1: because which is my hero? Like you know, I'm younger
Speaker 1: because I'm younger at this Brown, listen, we need if
Speaker 1: we had him, wherever you at, we need you too,
Speaker 1: Shortest in the head man, I'm telling the Bobby is
Speaker 1: a classic man, He's a classic. He's always be my nigga.
Speaker 1: I remember with Jarro was actually from the video um
Speaker 1: uh when Jah and Brown and I Actually I was
Speaker 1: in l A. He was at that video. No, I
Speaker 1: wasn't not The video was video the Ecstacy videos. Exstacy
Speaker 1: was ruling ship at one point. Let's white girl go listen,
Speaker 1: short man, I really appreciate you for coming out in
Speaker 1: a great sport. Are you gonna dread the champagne with us?
Speaker 1: And I keep it hard? You keep Paul? What are
Speaker 1: you doing? What is that my time? For? Now? We
Speaker 1: might we switched this a little. This is little raguls.
Speaker 1: We switched. I want to have a one with short
Speaker 1: excuse me, wrong, shot outside ball. You know you got
Speaker 1: you got the other rout wet that's my brother. We
Speaker 1: gotta shot a slottle pope man for making this happen.
Speaker 1: Can we get two buckets and pineapples because I gotta
Speaker 1: have a drink with uh um? She got close to
Speaker 1: pinteapple like apple. Alright, it works for me. So too
Speaker 1: short man. You've been coming to Miami for a long time,
Speaker 1: with Miami to you know Luke Stories, no to life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Luke Man, I've been on I've been on the goddamn
Speaker 1: Luke's Peep Show twice me Back and the how Can
Speaker 1: I Be Downdays? But how did you feel with Luke?
Speaker 1: They try to parent your vis with him because you
Speaker 1: had to be right behind him. If they would have
Speaker 1: did that to you know, did that to you? You know,
Speaker 1: just like you said, you see me walking through smooth.
Speaker 1: I walked through that ship, real smooth. They never came
Speaker 1: nucking at my door. They w ain't they sucking get
Speaker 1: up boys. They were laughing and they never royal. They
Speaker 1: never holloed at me. I don't even make some noise
Speaker 1: for too short for escaping. Never I couldn't remember. They
Speaker 1: never like what's what's the chick name that that two
Speaker 1: she was? She was she was trying to shut everybody
Speaker 1: and never had my name on the least. They were
Speaker 1: talking about the ship I was doing, which if they
Speaker 1: would have passed some laws, they probably would have affected me.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what to think about this. What
Speaker 1: do you think about the fact that that ship could
Speaker 1: have actually happened. Would if it have been like we
Speaker 1: lived in the country where they said you can't custom
Speaker 1: your rap songs have been crazy? It would have been
Speaker 1: like existed. We would have never assisted. I would have
Speaker 1: never That's how I think about it. It would have
Speaker 1: been like blueleg and liquor. We would have been out
Speaker 1: there in the streets slinging dirty raps. It would have
Speaker 1: been more expensive, maybe make more money it. It would
Speaker 1: have been money that like the prohibitions straight up. Welcome
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Speaker 1: with Rapper and or DJ. Then and you Still, I
Speaker 1: just like to ask you this question before we wrap
Speaker 1: it up. Still actually love this life? I swear to
Speaker 1: God you see to this face. Man, you still like
Speaker 1: did you? You never fell in love with this life
Speaker 1: for I don't love Excuse me, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: like this, man, I ain't really like to fun with
Speaker 1: the jail and all that. Like you. You just came
Speaker 1: home like I was only jail five weeks. Neiggo make
Speaker 1: some noise for you still go to jail, but you're
Speaker 1: still going to you Okay, you know what I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't go to jails, young nigga. I was. I was.
Speaker 1: You went to jails grown as man, and how I
Speaker 1: was your bunkies there had to be like too short
Speaker 1: watch out too short at Yeah, you gotta go look
Speaker 1: my nigga. Up the nigger that was next to me. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a he's got a high profile case in l A.
Speaker 1: They called the grim Sleeper. That doesn't even sound right.
Speaker 1: It sounds dangerous. Just breakdown the grand sleep extremely like
Speaker 1: brother intelligent, talk to you the dangerous guy whatever. The
Speaker 1: guy's respectful. How to cook with just some hot water
Speaker 1: and ship? You know you know what I mean? We
Speaker 1: we wasn't. I was in with the celebrity ship though,
Speaker 1: where you can't at you know, Nick, Nick can't actually
Speaker 1: was up on you and ship right, I I was
Speaker 1: just chilling. But talk about that guy. Don't get up.
Speaker 1: He's I just gave you and and and he helped.
Speaker 1: He was in It was on me. He was on
Speaker 1: me because he was because he was high profile. Yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: that's where the high profile person. That's what I was
Speaker 1: saying that I was in the same spot sugar Knight
Speaker 1: was that previously for me to getting there. There was
Speaker 1: a room with suk Knight. Try to sign you at
Speaker 1: one point, should try to sign everybody. Tell me about
Speaker 1: that short before you leave from the bay too. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They put me in the jail with Chris Brown. Was
Speaker 1: that the ship that was in that jail. It was
Speaker 1: just chilled jilin the TV right, Frenk and Sell, you know,
Speaker 1: just nobody with you. But sug Knight came to me
Speaker 1: like he came to everybody else. You know, I'm doing
Speaker 1: my own thing. I'm independent. You know, I've never I've
Speaker 1: never had a boss. I've never been signing nobody. And
Speaker 1: he just said, um, he said, the West Coast is
Speaker 1: he said, death Row is home to the West Coast.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm like, you know, you knew it was
Speaker 1: going to. He's like, he's like, man, come on over
Speaker 1: the death I'll get you off job. Come on, just
Speaker 1: said that one more time. How you said it? Come on,
Speaker 1: come on over the death row. He said, come on
Speaker 1: over to the death Rock. So you know I'm not
Speaker 1: a scary nigga, because I was the real nigga that
Speaker 1: we have no reason to be scared. And then, um,
Speaker 1: I'm a smart nigga. But where's this. We're in a
Speaker 1: fucking nightclub in Atlanta and wait, we shore was in
Speaker 1: Atlanta and you was running Atlanta at that time. Because
Speaker 1: usually I was a factor in the city. I wasn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on over to the death roll. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't me. It wasn't me. In a bully he was
Speaker 1: saying that ship like two niggs talking. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know, actually a cool dude that he was being.
Speaker 1: I could see it that it was like a push
Speaker 1: kind of because then I actually kind of probably put
Speaker 1: a little weight, like you know, he didn't didn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't no kind of threat, but he kind of like
Speaker 1: I felt a little weight. But I think it was
Speaker 1: like at the time he said it, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of pushing up on me a little bit, but in
Speaker 1: a friendly kind of way. And I just said, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't trying. I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: wrap no more. Man, I'm starting to leg what about
Speaker 1: to do my labor. That's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to wrap no more. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen nineties five or some ship. It's
Speaker 1: because I also heard jay Z try to sign you too.
Speaker 1: Now that Jay never tried to sign j J just
Speaker 1: was I was coming to do some work with him.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that that room was false. He never
Speaker 1: tried to sign I probably would have probably probably would
Speaker 1: have went that route because just you know, just to
Speaker 1: be around. They respect you like a mother. Everybody respect you. Short.
Speaker 1: Just in case you don't know, let me let me
Speaker 1: just let me just tell you you are well respected,
Speaker 1: well connected. We love you. On the East coast to
Speaker 1: the West coast round man down south. You are a
Speaker 1: guy who laid out the platform for all of us
Speaker 1: to do it. You're still as cool as hell. I
Speaker 1: can't believe how cool you are. It was a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. When the interview is over, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you how can I be as cool
Speaker 1: as you? That's all I want to do, Like I
Speaker 1: want to ask you because you're the coolest guy. You're
Speaker 1: like how you do that? And you still love the game.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep asking you in different ways, like why
Speaker 1: would you were the guy to say selling? Man? I
Speaker 1: told you. I used to be in the studio with
Speaker 1: the o G my first studio experience with some old
Speaker 1: professional niggas. And these niggas had some of them, you know,
Speaker 1: was in it, some of them that came and went
Speaker 1: and you know that they talked about the days and
Speaker 1: they toured the world and it was in the band
Speaker 1: or whatever, and the niggas said, um. One of the
Speaker 1: niggas was one of the members of the Dramatics. He
Speaker 1: was one of the niggas, but he was one of
Speaker 1: the niggas that got kicked out the group. And he
Speaker 1: experienced a few hit records and and you know, the
Speaker 1: nigga tour and then and then the ship left him
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, he was like, dude, whatever
Speaker 1: you do. He was like, he said, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're gonna be somebody. He was like yeah, he was like,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, you make it. He said, don't forget
Speaker 1: to have fun. And I kind of like took that
Speaker 1: ship life. I just kind of like took that ship
Speaker 1: and kind of adapted it in my own way that Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going on our first tour. We you know, Niggas
Speaker 1: is out there deep deeper ship because it is out
Speaker 1: there complaining, fucking you know. I mean we we we
Speaker 1: love LLL but l L used to not talk to
Speaker 1: rappers and didn't want to be friends with you. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about I don't get worry. He was from niggas,
Speaker 1: Like I don't like rappers. He wouldn't hang out. I've
Speaker 1: been on triple of that. Hell, oh my god, he
Speaker 1: would have. He had a rig so that he could
Speaker 1: get from his dress room to the stage. You couldn't
Speaker 1: even he wouldn't even see him. He was different ways
Speaker 1: of getting there and ship. Man. But I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: I just I was the opposite of that type of
Speaker 1: ship where I just was like, man, I'm about to
Speaker 1: go and everybody's dressing room, we're gonna smoke, We're gonna
Speaker 1: chop out. You know what I'm saying. I'm with everybody
Speaker 1: you know that's been the room about you is like
Speaker 1: tracks to do A show fifteen thousand Motherfucker's in the crowd.
Speaker 1: I would get off stage, and then I was on tour,
Speaker 1: like the first show I went on n w A,
Speaker 1: the one in the movie straight out. Let's break that
Speaker 1: down because you can't. You're saying it very non obs
Speaker 1: but he said, it's so too cool. He said, one
Speaker 1: of the listen, listen, this is this is crazy, this
Speaker 1: set that whole era you was on that tour. I'm
Speaker 1: the group that went on right before n w A.
Speaker 1: Easy he called me, was like, let's go to you
Speaker 1: seem right there. You make me forget my story down.
Speaker 1: He went on tour with n w WAY that that
Speaker 1: was your first you know. He was talking about how
Speaker 1: you interact with the crowd. Yeah, I'm telling I used
Speaker 1: to go on stage do my show Motherfucker's, and right
Speaker 1: after I get out stage, I grabbed one of the homies.
Speaker 1: Because you bring too many, or you bring security or something,
Speaker 1: you're gonna cause a cause of fuss. Right after the show,
Speaker 1: in between my show and n w A, I would
Speaker 1: walk through the whole crowd, lights on, walk through people.
Speaker 1: You know, back then thinks don't have a camera phone.
Speaker 1: I think it wouldn't need to have a pen. I
Speaker 1: think you just you just would like just be like man,
Speaker 1: you know, because hey, what's up? And I just to
Speaker 1: this one I pound I just want to give you.
Speaker 1: People would say, well your security. I like you my security.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do something to me, like you know, you
Speaker 1: know Reggie m did that ship and Keith Murray man
Speaker 1: think that is security. Nothing. They just walk around any
Speaker 1: fucking crowd. I do the same ship. I just test
Speaker 1: it out that I've never no but short you was
Speaker 1: a like a king man of a whole coast. It's
Speaker 1: different and you still to this day walk around the
Speaker 1: same way. It's because it's the love. Man, it's the love.
Speaker 1: You'd be somewhere and makes a noise for the love.
Speaker 1: Let's makes your noise for the love. Hey, you'd be
Speaker 1: somewhere and somebody said, hey, man, you did you did something. Something.
Speaker 1: You made a song with my little brother and something something,
Speaker 1: just you made a song with my little brother. Something
Speaker 1: random mass rappers somewhere, niggas like nigga, all these nigs
Speaker 1: over here, these my niggas. You're getting here because I
Speaker 1: made a song with his little brother. Right, so we
Speaker 1: get that night. Now you've always been good, Mr Lloyd.
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of well, I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of deal you made regard but listen, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't care where neighborhood is. That it's the
Speaker 1: pay for philosophy. Man, you gotta pay you. But you
Speaker 1: learned a lot of ship in life. But I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about the knowledge. I'm talking about material things. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about the knowledge. You got to give it
Speaker 1: to everybody who deserves it. Man, you learned a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. I feel like niggas could have gave me
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, short cuts couldn't helped me
Speaker 1: when I was a young nigga. You know they didn't
Speaker 1: help you, So you now you want to help other people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know if some people didn't help you, gotta
Speaker 1: you're gonna have this live and learn ship. Everybody got
Speaker 1: to go through their journey, but help niggas. Then this
Speaker 1: fact came a little bit. I think we gotta make
Speaker 1: noise for help niggas. Help niggas, help motherfucking niggas. Man, listen,
Speaker 1: and you know what's short. You're such a great guy, yo.
Speaker 1: When you was on job, I believe you called me.
Speaker 1: I did a record with you for your album. Correct,
Speaker 1: I forget what's the name of the album? I forget
Speaker 1: that's what it has on point trying to hold on
Speaker 1: with my job. Wasn't that you can't funk with us?
Speaker 1: Who was on there with He just came on to
Speaker 1: care So you just like sucking with street niggers because
Speaker 1: how did you know the funk with me? Because I
Speaker 1: was a foul nigger at that time? You still I
Speaker 1: might have been I might have been plotting hum, but
Speaker 1: I was a foul nigger at the point. The point
Speaker 1: of the song was nigga nigga who are reptable in
Speaker 1: their own are right, that's just And it was like,
Speaker 1: you know because I was so I was, I was
Speaker 1: so honest, but I was like, do he know him?
Speaker 1: Because you can might shoot somebody without leaving. You can't
Speaker 1: make a statement. You can't sunk with us if there's
Speaker 1: no us you have you knew man, knew what you do.
Speaker 1: And then Pete Poblo did the jail time like this
Speaker 1: is I know in North Carolina where he's from, the
Speaker 1: city rides with them. That's the city I have. I've
Speaker 1: done concerts like you know, you go to a city
Speaker 1: probably like I don't have two hour driving where you're from.
Speaker 1: I've done concerts and took them. They're all of Oakland
Speaker 1: with me. We show up a thousand deep and they're like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all coming in, motherfucking we do They
Speaker 1: still do that of this day? Yeah, we did this
Speaker 1: day this day. I'm a father nigger like that. They
Speaker 1: asked me how many that guy be? Like four? And
Speaker 1: then when I show up it would be like like
Speaker 1: I said for I said for four hunters, like yeah,
Speaker 1: but too short, man. I can't thank you enough. So
Speaker 1: I'm coming out sitting down, you know, being a great
Speaker 1: sport about it. All this is about is just hip
Speaker 1: hop fans getting to understand and and and and hear
Speaker 1: these stories. But before you go, I want to say,
Speaker 1: how did you and eat forty? Everhead ook up because
Speaker 1: he's another yeah forty and because that's that's still your
Speaker 1: younger Homi. Yeah, I a little I got about a
Speaker 1: couple forty and his brother d Shot was in the game.
Speaker 1: They were treat niggas and you know, they dabbled, they
Speaker 1: they moved some way around. So that that's what that
Speaker 1: will mean. Learned something today. Let's makes ar something today,
Speaker 1: goddamn it. But I probably did a little more than Land.
Speaker 1: That was just damage, just playing. I was just trying
Speaker 1: to be a PC alright, ok. So um, they actually
Speaker 1: used to do business with my niggas who I wrote
Speaker 1: with to this day. My nigga niga is my niggas.
Speaker 1: They was they was Yxta's getting money together. So there's
Speaker 1: a thing in the bay where you kind of um,
Speaker 1: you know, we we're over here in Oakland, thirty miles
Speaker 1: over in Valetoff these Valetot niggas and these Oakland niggas
Speaker 1: is like, all right, we're gonna get down together. Then
Speaker 1: you got a city like Richmond, and yeah, so Richmond
Speaker 1: Nigga and Oakland nigs is like really funk with each other.
Speaker 1: No gangship, but it's just like we're just a little
Speaker 1: too wild to be friends because it never it never
Speaker 1: turns out good y'all too wild to be friends with us.
Speaker 1: We two out, so we kind of try to either
Speaker 1: avoid each other or it's just it's just it's just
Speaker 1: mani mani actions. So um. So valleto Nigga and Oakland
Speaker 1: nig has always been like kind of like sister city
Speaker 1: type ship. So we niggas fun with us, and E
Speaker 1: forty was my homie forever and ever and ever and ever.
Speaker 1: But we never made songs together. We just we were
Speaker 1: just homies. We're the same. We see each other, the clicks,
Speaker 1: everybody know each other, all these little brothers. I know
Speaker 1: his sister, I know the whole ship. Before we have
Speaker 1: made a song. And we did a concert one of
Speaker 1: those radio stations, Summer Jams, Summer Jam, Summer Jam, and
Speaker 1: the niggas. Um they had, uh you ever heard the loonies. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the loonies had, of course, loonies, my homies, my
Speaker 1: young homies. They come from the cloth man, they come
Speaker 1: from what I'm what I'm from the trinkle Down. The
Speaker 1: game the niggas put out their records was my homies,
Speaker 1: they love flag, he said to trinkle Down that was.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I'm gonna take it.
Speaker 1: They come from that. So um. So the Loonies had
Speaker 1: this song. I was called player hater, and they say
Speaker 1: they was mad at me about this whole story. I
Speaker 1: can't tell you. They was mad at me on some
Speaker 1: on some inside ship, and they said some ship about me.
Speaker 1: The song. They said, that's why the town got rid
Speaker 1: of short And they said it a year after I
Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta. So they insinuated and started this little
Speaker 1: buzz that maybe the Loonies was like, nigga, you gotta
Speaker 1: move out of town. Nigga, you can't be in Oakland
Speaker 1: no more. There's some ship. So I'm in Atlanta, having
Speaker 1: the time of my life, still mad as fucking this bullshit.
Speaker 1: So the radio station is holding what would be the
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven Summer Jazz. It's one of those, one
Speaker 1: of those six in Atlanta and in uh In in Oakland,
Speaker 1: in the Bay it's it's a K one on six
Speaker 1: summer Jam. And I'm I'm the nigga who the radio
Speaker 1: station came to when they first started doing summer Jam
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we need to like get some urban support.
Speaker 1: Can you be on the show. And I'm like, coo,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. So I'm like feeling like this kind
Speaker 1: of the supposed to be my friends. I helped these niggas.
Speaker 1: But there's a rock station turned into an urban station,
Speaker 1: and they asked niggas like me, can you come and
Speaker 1: help us? Went over the community. So I'm like that
Speaker 1: should means something. And they played this record and put
Speaker 1: in the rotation where it said that's why the town
Speaker 1: got rid of short one line and yeah, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like a nigga like this. I'm like, nigga, you
Speaker 1: don't it's not it's not it's zero disrespect. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's just not. We don't walk away from
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm not gonna rap about you. So, nigga,
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. So I called the radio station. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm coming to the concert. They didn't
Speaker 1: want me on the show. Of course. They told me,
Speaker 1: you know, I moved to Atlanta. We kind of like
Speaker 1: supporting the local artists and ship you moved away. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to come to see the show.
Speaker 1: They gave me four sticker passes. Nigga. We rolled up
Speaker 1: there about sixty niggas, four niggas in, one nigga out,
Speaker 1: four more niggas in, one nigga out. He came up
Speaker 1: with three passes. Three yeah. Side. Before they realize what
Speaker 1: had happened, we sixty East Oakland niggas in the concert.
Speaker 1: No othensation. Were just in there, nigga, and we've been
Speaker 1: we're being real cool. We ain't got no problem, but
Speaker 1: it's sixty niggas, sixty grimey niggas, and I'm requesting ship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, I need for y'all to walk me
Speaker 1: out on the stage and tell the crowd. Me and
Speaker 1: the Looney's gonna tell the crowd it ain't nune but loved,
Speaker 1: and we just it just had to happen. And they
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we're gonna do this and this and
Speaker 1: this and that, and they wouldn't do it. And I'm
Speaker 1: like the loonies was with it. They have the little homies.
Speaker 1: They they talked to your mouth. They walked up to
Speaker 1: us and they was like, man, what we gotta do whatever?
Speaker 1: The concert people wouldn't wouldn't let it happen. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we gotta kill this motherucking ship. Ain't nobody tell him
Speaker 1: what The Loonies is my enemies and we've running away
Speaker 1: and we're gonna just walk out and just say it's
Speaker 1: just love. That's all I wanted to tell the people.
Speaker 1: And it was like, no, I wouldn't do it. So
Speaker 1: we we said that let me let us how the manager,
Speaker 1: the manager nigga, my nigga sees my nigga is my homie,
Speaker 1: and we went in this back room were supposed to
Speaker 1: be hollering, and one of the concert promoters, we're back there,
Speaker 1: and then the ship get out of hand. Thinks lumped
Speaker 1: up the Looney's manager a little bit, and we didn't
Speaker 1: know this is what was going through. So then they
Speaker 1: got lumped up and curled all up and ship and
Speaker 1: all this ship and it wasn't even really asked for.
Speaker 1: It was just like a blue blue blue Mr bullshit.
Speaker 1: So we walked out. Now we got the mob. The
Speaker 1: mob is not satisfied. They like kind of hungry. And
Speaker 1: then we walked through the crowd and we're just like,
Speaker 1: we're not doing nothing to nobody, but we're just not
Speaker 1: happy and we're kind of moving around. And then just
Speaker 1: we went and we went and took a little section
Speaker 1: and then you know, you could make niggas like to
Speaker 1: take their ship. We took a little section. We're gonna
Speaker 1: watch the next act. Somebody come on the scene. And
Speaker 1: then everybody that was just the powers that be just
Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw. They just didn't like it
Speaker 1: that they just it was just nervousness, and they canceled
Speaker 1: the show. They canceled. Like the last two acts they canceled.
Speaker 1: It must have been like the Isley Brothers and E
Speaker 1: forty forty was headlining, had never met was home. We
Speaker 1: was home and they canceled the show. E forty has
Speaker 1: spent like maybe like you know, a lot of grip
Speaker 1: on some special show he was gonna do with the
Speaker 1: big show of the summer, and they canceled him. And
Speaker 1: they went and totally, nigger, we canceled you because it's
Speaker 1: too short. Mind you weren't We wasn't fighting, We wasn't mobby,
Speaker 1: weren't people. We just we just kind of like did
Speaker 1: the little thing in the back back area and left
Speaker 1: watching the show. But they're nervous that they couldn't control
Speaker 1: this ship. But you guys had not met E forty
Speaker 1: prior to wrap. I knew forty before we was wrapped.
Speaker 1: I know why. We early days, the early days, we
Speaker 1: was just like what's up. Like it wasn't back in
Speaker 1: the day, niggas didn't wrapped together exactly. It's like a
Speaker 1: record with you weren't That wasn't even an idea. We
Speaker 1: just was what's up and we hang out whatever. We
Speaker 1: was tied a little bit with his little brother. That's
Speaker 1: my niggat, my niggas. No these shots for the click,
Speaker 1: they was in the click. So Monday morning comes the
Speaker 1: radio station. The show was probably like Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker 1: Monday morning comes the radio station does a fake caller
Speaker 1: pretended to be too short, and the nigga calls up.
Speaker 1: It's like, nig nigga, niggas didn't want to let me
Speaker 1: on stage. Nigga, I don't given it was forty one
Speaker 1: house and short, don't get on stay no way. The
Speaker 1: niggas calling talking ship on the morning show phone start
Speaker 1: this way was probably going by then, Okay, cool, and
Speaker 1: they're doing this joke. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: a bit down there. That's the program director or something.
Speaker 1: This bitch is sending out factors and emails saying too
Speaker 1: short is violent Bannon nigga from Wrap and don't ever
Speaker 1: play his music, all kinds of ships. So I'm like
Speaker 1: trying to blackball. So I'm like, I'm taking this ship personal.
Speaker 1: Then then the fucking phone rings. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the ship was on the air. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: E forty called me. He was like, Nigga, was you
Speaker 1: on the radio? This morning. I'm like, no, nigga. He's like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you didn't do to say such something. I'm like no, man.
Speaker 1: So the niggas like we stand up niggas. Nigga said,
Speaker 1: so you're telling me you didn't all the radio sing
Speaker 1: and say, I said, Nigga, I don't know. He said, okay,
Speaker 1: and then he started spending the game to theft. He's
Speaker 1: a real game, that nigga. So he started spending like
Speaker 1: the radio stations trying to play games with us, blah blah,
Speaker 1: this and that. He's like, man, these folks, you know,
Speaker 1: we start talking about how much money he spent on
Speaker 1: his set. They didn't get into the show, and they
Speaker 1: personally told him it's too short fall. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: we're not finn turnus in the name because we know
Speaker 1: who we are. Your niggas mind niggas. We know we're
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. He said, let's get in the
Speaker 1: studio and make some music. We made a song called
Speaker 1: rappers Ball, and it's like it was like a big
Speaker 1: record for that's the first record we ever made, and
Speaker 1: big city, big record for the Bay. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was huge and it went everywhere and and basically
Speaker 1: the ship of of of you know, corporate type structure
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's in the office room. Trying to play some
Speaker 1: real niggas against each other kind of made us tighter
Speaker 1: than we've ever been, and we kind of we were
Speaker 1: we were cool as fun. But after that, we made
Speaker 1: record after record after record. We started talking on the
Speaker 1: phone every other day. Were kind of like walking each
Speaker 1: other through each other's albums and ship. Niggers don't know,
Speaker 1: we was on drive and we never really dropped in
Speaker 1: the same quarter. So we would be like both we'd
Speaker 1: be critiquing each other's albums while we're making them. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're feeling hit him hard and hell yeah, like and
Speaker 1: then I'm listening to him going, shoot, I gotta get
Speaker 1: there and go hard because about to knock me off,
Speaker 1: you know. So we kind of being friends and competitors,
Speaker 1: we kind of held each other down on keeping it
Speaker 1: keeping that ship hardcore, Like like wow, real, So before
Speaker 1: we get up out of here, was you in the
Speaker 1: session with Big when you made the record? When the
Speaker 1: Rimmys in my system, ain't no telling that I was
Speaker 1: in the room. I was in the room, and it
Speaker 1: was in the room. Yeah, that's when the legs was hurting.
Speaker 1: Should he be sitting down and wrapping and ship? Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then how about with Jay did y'all sitting up session?
Speaker 1: I did that session with Jay. It was all good.
Speaker 1: Just a week ago I did that ship Um, I
Speaker 1: did the other song I re member. I was on Uh,
Speaker 1: real niggas do real things, all all the words. I
Speaker 1: was on that show. He really wanted Scarface on that song.
Speaker 1: And and back then the niggas, Uh, it was that
Speaker 1: ship where the niggas just love Tupacs so much. It
Speaker 1: was like you g K and Nick. Certain thing is
Speaker 1: they love Tupacs so much. They're like, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: work with nobody from New York. I just it was
Speaker 1: just it was, let me stop you right there. We
Speaker 1: love short New York. He's trying to be humble right now.
Speaker 1: He humble, But look, I used to be tellings like this. Man.
Speaker 1: I talked to the niggas car phase all the real talk.
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I'm like, nigga, go to New York.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take your career to a new level. Them
Speaker 1: niggas funk with you, and we didn't, we didn't know.
Speaker 1: Somebody had to tell you. I say, pass it on,
Speaker 1: I didn't know, nig i'me on the elevator and then
Speaker 1: Nigga bell hoops saying, I ain't never heard of you, man,
Speaker 1: why why you got on jury? Like? Who was you said?
Speaker 1: I'm too short? And now I saw the million records.
Speaker 1: And then the bell have the building, I mean Hotel
Speaker 1: New York and they're like, no, you didn't wow never
Speaker 1: I never heard you saw the big records. So this
Speaker 1: is a crazy ship. Is you know what what side
Speaker 1: of you telling? Because we always felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: we showed y'all love. And I told the bell man
Speaker 1: Nigga got two shows. A big daddy came that. Nigga said,
Speaker 1: now I know you're like and you did do shows? Yeah, shows, okay, crazy, Wow,
Speaker 1: this markey is my nigga. Man, that's my my homie,
Speaker 1: like talking a lot of my fuckers, Jam James, my nigga.
Speaker 1: That's my nigga, Like, yeah, that's crazy. Way back when
Speaker 1: it was God bless him, God bless him. Your two
Speaker 1: show got the craziest stories. Man, we just make let's
Speaker 1: make some noise for two children man coming out, hang
Speaker 1: it out. I was there, you were there. I told you.
Speaker 1: I just turned fifty, nigg I know some ship kres
Speaker 1: One told us he turned fifty and he put on
Speaker 1: a Peak card. You got a car, and see what
Speaker 1: kind of Let me let me see what kind of
Speaker 1: call you guys, Let me see you kind of You know,
Speaker 1: we need sunny here, we're sunny ye cannabis car. Goddamnit,
Speaker 1: Look at that. Look at that. Let's make some noise too.
Speaker 1: Shot up being a super smoker. I shouldn't shure. This
Speaker 1: is little. I can't thank you so much. Man, Listen,
Speaker 1: I could never repay you for this because I don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: if people understand what this is. There's people from the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, there's people from South Central, there's people from
Speaker 1: New York. They all want to know your story. And
Speaker 1: right now, I mean in the hip hop way when
Speaker 1: I say they know your story. But in the hip
Speaker 1: hop way, we're not journalists. We don't google ship. We
Speaker 1: sit there conversation. I'm gonna be honest, I don't know
Speaker 1: the Google, but I do really get the point site
Speaker 1: just figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: But and and we sit here with hip hop legend.
Speaker 1: We had carerest one sitting right there. This is it's correct.
Speaker 1: The right there carocon is right there. And once some
Speaker 1: more drive records. He was on drive. We got Q
Speaker 1: tip that's coming to the drive records. So I'm bringing
Speaker 1: it up dog rest in peace, the five girl and Um,
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough, my brother. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 1: I was so excited. My brother d j F and
Speaker 1: told me. He said, yo, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Two shoulders coming. And I don't know if you felt
Speaker 1: it when he was on the phone, but I kept
Speaker 1: going like this heard it? Where did that come from? Short?
Speaker 1: Because every time I hear your name, I keep popping
Speaker 1: my collar. Is that cool? Yeah? That's a that's that's
Speaker 1: that's a gesture. That's a gesture. So you like every
Speaker 1: time if we're not look if I'm in UM, like
Speaker 1: if I'm in like Tucson, Arizona and they say you
Speaker 1: wanted too short, um, Ribs or the US like this,
Speaker 1: Yeah you're good, I'm good. I'm good to wear suits
Speaker 1: and ship. Man, they really used to pop their collars,
Speaker 1: so they they had collars you don't have. I didn't
Speaker 1: know where the popping collar came from. So you had
Speaker 1: these certain characters that they the whole time they're talking
Speaker 1: to you, like they get so clean, just like you know, man,
Speaker 1: when I was doing this, just like this is not
Speaker 1: just and they just popping and it's just like what
Speaker 1: kind of style you got, Like they got ordered and
Speaker 1: they talked like that the whole time they're talking to you,
Speaker 1: when they getting terriorted or after they tell why the
Speaker 1: niggative walk up talking to you. Niggas talking past like
Speaker 1: my nigga, my nigga, you know you me short? Get
Speaker 1: me right? Am I doing the correct when I'm doing it?
Speaker 1: A popular color? You got the one hand pop together.
Speaker 1: Let me look at you, let me see you do it.
Speaker 1: You really got to be wearing a college shirt though
Speaker 1: you gotta pop your collar. You call it man, you
Speaker 1: man short. Let me tell you something that I told you.
Speaker 1: I come from a different cloth and thing is what
Speaker 1: I come from. The finesse niggas who don't know you
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to do a lot of exterior because
Speaker 1: you're sitting there quietly. You told a bit what to
Speaker 1: do and you're just sitting there. Point you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't have to brag on it, you feel me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's it's I had married those kind of cats.
Speaker 1: I took on that that style of just not but
Speaker 1: do they pop they call you kind of don't you
Speaker 1: don't do the loud, you don't rhyme, you don't rhyme,
Speaker 1: you don't dress too loud. You just kind of like
Speaker 1: you run that game and you so short. If I
Speaker 1: could be a temporary pen before, like one day, could
Speaker 1: you coach me? I've been telling you all day, I think,
Speaker 1: said Anthony. You know I'll keep you all to telling
Speaker 1: out on man. When the bitch chose me, I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do after that. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: but does the chick ever pimp the dude the jiggerlo
Speaker 1: that happen? You will never become a boss pimp unless
Speaker 1: a bit turns you out first. You can think anything
Speaker 1: you want. But she got confused. I'm Mary, Let's go
Speaker 1: like this. You never pimp the hole before, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna and you're gonna turn the misch out for the
Speaker 1: first time. So she just getting turned down. You just
Speaker 1: getting turned out? Y'all. Huh, what y'all gonna do together?
Speaker 1: Who never held the pimp? Who never pimp? Somebody got
Speaker 1: to get you that game. You got to go get
Speaker 1: your feet with the best time. Let's make some those
Speaker 1: to be in school. That is really thick. That is
Speaker 1: really the best time you ever gonna get. This is
Speaker 1: the first you gone. You might get a little junior house.
Speaker 1: She'd like, I do it for you. She might be
Speaker 1: around junior fuming around the So you're gonna knock another
Speaker 1: You're the new young pimp. You're the new young pamp.
Speaker 1: You're gonna knock an another niggas bit you've been getting it.
Speaker 1: She coming over. You're like this, bitch I've been having.
Speaker 1: Ain't never hold like this. You got a super hole
Speaker 1: down and you're like, oh ship when once you got
Speaker 1: a super hoo and you adapt, you can't go read
Speaker 1: some of these books. Man, You and you sit there
Speaker 1: and you you ain't never letting her know that you
Speaker 1: can't hang with her. But you're pimping your way into it.
Speaker 1: The next hole you get, you're gonna be harder and
Speaker 1: harder and harder. Like you know, you learn some ship
Speaker 1: from that super how you learn That's why you know
Speaker 1: those teaching to dude when you had the junior home
Speaker 1: and he was like, she bring me a little something.
Speaker 1: Now you got a super hool, you like every hole
Speaker 1: after that, you like, do you fucking know what how
Speaker 1: it is? That's why he gave me a famous player card.
Speaker 1: I wanted to give it back. I said, you guys
Speaker 1: are complicated. This is very complicated. But your lifestyle is
Speaker 1: very hard style. But the famous player card is not
Speaker 1: a famous pimp card. It's just for the players, man,
Speaker 1: because they all know it's a difference. They all know.
Speaker 1: Don't really be out there trying to pimp house and ship.
Speaker 1: I don't. I never sadn't you should just prom this
Speaker 1: same polder still come. Guess what happens when you're too short.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at the club in Las Vegas, hanging
Speaker 1: with my folks at the table. The bitch walks up
Speaker 1: to me and hands me like eighteen hunter and said
Speaker 1: you're the reason why I'm hoping and walked away. She
Speaker 1: didn't tell her motherfucker name. I didn't even see what
Speaker 1: she gave me, so she was out of sight, and look,
Speaker 1: I was like, nigger, bit, just walk me through the
Speaker 1: hand to be this, And then what did you do
Speaker 1: the seventeen hunter? Let's keep it rare. We bought that.
Speaker 1: We're just we're spending. We came back to keeping it
Speaker 1: getting back to the man. She never introduced her name.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what her Facebook. I couldn't never
Speaker 1: tell you. I don't even know. I don't know. Let
Speaker 1: me tell yourself. We got the legend too short in here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna she paid it back to the game, not
Speaker 1: trying to pimp into the pyman came to me, wants
Speaker 1: to pivocating to me, I know what to do with
Speaker 1: the off and then pivoting like, you give me your bit,
Speaker 1: don't do you? I say, not anybody. It's enough not
Speaker 1: to know to give them my bitch, anybody that's listening.
Speaker 1: So I gave it a bit to like, I gave
Speaker 1: it a bit to like, um, like to see or something.
Speaker 1: And then I'm sorry, anybody that's listening, just remember this.
Speaker 1: Don't don't listen to ship about some pimp rules and
Speaker 1: ship and yeah, I think you're gonna wake up and
Speaker 1: trying to be a pimp. It's not something that you do.
Speaker 1: It's not something that you adapt the lifestyle. You know,
Speaker 1: just like anything you do, you become an expert. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's in you. It's in you, ye right now.
Speaker 1: I love the art of it. But it's not in me.
Speaker 1: I don't have the pimp powers passion that you see
Speaker 1: me for hip hop the music in the last show,
Speaker 1: and I don't have that passion for pimping. But you
Speaker 1: had the passion more for hip hop than pimper. I
Speaker 1: love the art of the pimp game. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: If you you know what is the best profession after pimping,
Speaker 1: if you've been a pimp? Rapping? No? Hell no, what
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, thank you? That's what most pimps they start. Yeah. Preachers, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got You got to listen to the level of
Speaker 1: hustlings being as owning the church. That's the last level
Speaker 1: of I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing at Christianity. I'm
Speaker 1: laughing that preacher listening us last hustle is being a preacher.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that the preacher's pimping his congregation.
Speaker 1: Who gives a fuck? That's the last level of I
Speaker 1: got that. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you another way. Now,
Speaker 1: Let's say, throughout your life, the way you learned how
Speaker 1: to be a pimp was that you figured I have
Speaker 1: the gift the gap. You told that to yourself. The
Speaker 1: gift to Gap is your main weapon, and pimping, unless
Speaker 1: you're grill with him, sounds like is the punch of
Speaker 1: facing the big as you as you stare in the
Speaker 1: ugly face of pimping you see a fucking hole die
Speaker 1: on the job or some ship murdered or junkie hole overdose,
Speaker 1: is just the bitch life get sucked off and she
Speaker 1: ended up in prison you never see again, like you know,
Speaker 1: just the the ugly side of the ship, the ship
Speaker 1: that the ship that sucks you up in the head
Speaker 1: because you've seen how you took this little innocent girl
Speaker 1: who was a waitress, and you see what she ended
Speaker 1: up being, and you're like, damn, how am I in
Speaker 1: the eyes of God if I did this to her?
Speaker 1: And you start feeling like a sucking monster, like it
Speaker 1: ain't for everybody in the long run. So what do
Speaker 1: you do? You you fucking step to the light and
Speaker 1: you go to the church and you start really realizing
Speaker 1: that damn, I've been walking the wrong path. And then
Speaker 1: you end up being a fucking preacher later. But the
Speaker 1: main thing is why are you a good preacher? Because
Speaker 1: from day one you had to give the gap. It
Speaker 1: ain't like if if a pimp turn preacher, he's not
Speaker 1: he's not being wicked, or he's not. He might just
Speaker 1: really had went that path where he looked at that
Speaker 1: ugly ship and he went the other way. Some of
Speaker 1: them might be wicked. Yeah, it might be, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that this money, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: just a ship where it real ship, though that ship
Speaker 1: gets uggly. I I know a church boy right now
Speaker 1: that pimped his ass off. And the only reason he's
Speaker 1: a church boy because it's because when he saw Pivin
Speaker 1: fucked him up. Let's make some noise for the ship
Speaker 1: that sucked him up. Yo, yo, just want to followed
Speaker 1: just claiming on this up. I'm not gonna lie. If
Speaker 1: you listen to two shorts, you get pimp tomorrow. Just listen.
Speaker 1: I funked up when the like listen, it's a horrible
Speaker 1: pimple Like I went and I said, you gotta choose
Speaker 1: to lose, said I chose, she chose me. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: what did I do from here? What do I do
Speaker 1: from here? And I was fucked up? Pimp juju pim
Speaker 1: mckinn uh, but you're done. They was all trying to not.
Speaker 1: I was holding it down because I was like, they
Speaker 1: can't not my bis because I see I've seen the documentaries.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not going to knock my bitch.
Speaker 1: But as soon as I left, I just left alone
Speaker 1: and that was it, so I knew I can. There's
Speaker 1: two things you gotta do to establish You have to
Speaker 1: you have to get a choosing feet, and you have
Speaker 1: to at least send me a choosing feet. And what
Speaker 1: is that? That's when she paid you to be with you,
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me soon as she chose me,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, bitch at pay a lot of
Speaker 1: PIM said the bar kind kind of kind of steep
Speaker 1: if you asked me, I don't know. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like five ten racks. I heard five X. I
Speaker 1: could have got. I could have got if you could
Speaker 1: have got a sign the short start to see your phone, man,
Speaker 1: want to change numbers. I was playing the wrong game
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah you're sure. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for being a great sport and going down here
Speaker 1: having us. Man look a little I'm just saying, it
Speaker 1: look like I had Carroson right there. It looked like
Speaker 1: you're drinking on my tie. It's not it looks like Yo, sure,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, my brother. Easy on the pimping, y'all,
Speaker 1: easy on the No, you're gonna responsibility like I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pimp. I'm gonna pimp, like pip your dogs
Speaker 1: first before you go up. After that, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pimp like in my mind. I'm gonna have Short
Speaker 1: run me through it in my mind and then maybe no,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna try. I'm never gonna try. But at
Speaker 1: least at least Short taught me tak you Short, man.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Man. Every time my person say bitch,
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Before we get out of her word,
Speaker 1: I showed you. I had a rap partner, Freddie b.
Speaker 1: So we tried to do everything that the streets do,
Speaker 1: and the streets was doing a lot of drugs. So
Speaker 1: we used to do these little skits before the songs
Speaker 1: are just like either acting like gangsters or just slick
Speaker 1: talking things. And one of the skids we used to
Speaker 1: do was, uh was about to say this chick um
Speaker 1: she was a be So we pretended like like we're
Speaker 1: smoking crack cocaine. But wait, wait, but this was not
Speaker 1: crack back but the crack cocaine at one point that
Speaker 1: was not crack. We sprinkled a little bit in the joints.
Speaker 1: But now we're not gonna hit the point you did
Speaker 1: hit the huge Did that should tastes good? It was?
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Don't let it take you down. But
Speaker 1: look at that stuff so dirties back then, it wasn't
Speaker 1: When we was wrapping it the early eighties, it wasn't crack.
Speaker 1: It was called freebasing, and it was only it was
Speaker 1: only fly people did that. He was if he was
Speaker 1: showing off rich, motherfucking you free base. That was the
Speaker 1: ship that burned rich and that that was that was
Speaker 1: in the pipe, or that was that It was the
Speaker 1: same thing. It was the same thing as a crackhead.
Speaker 1: It was smoking the pipe. But when it first came out,
Speaker 1: it came out as an elegant thing that only rich
Speaker 1: people did. Hey we're about to go smoke. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is the upgrade from cocaine rich people. Free basing
Speaker 1: was something that people openly said, we're freebasing, but cracking
Speaker 1: something when you turn to a crackhead. That was the
Speaker 1: same fucking ship. But it just had a different, different
Speaker 1: time and era. So we used to mimic Freemason. So
Speaker 1: we would sit there and be like, you know, the
Speaker 1: bitchry like hit, I hit this baby, like you know
Speaker 1: the tape is about to come on, the music coming on.
Speaker 1: We're doing the skip for it. Come on like this,
Speaker 1: hit and hit and say like I wannafuck choking ship
Speaker 1: and then uh, like, bitch, you're hitting, you're smoking too much.
Speaker 1: And then uh and then my man like somebody being
Speaker 1: there doing the girls waste or whatever, and then and
Speaker 1: then it shouldn't be like like like bits like that's
Speaker 1: where the god we did that skits for crack making
Speaker 1: making up the bed, crack, cocaine gets something world get
Speaker 1: so many times that the bitch just keep getting longer
Speaker 1: and longer and longer until it was just like bit
Speaker 1: and is that your favorite word? It really is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Look at this, they're got a rude awaken it up,
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't looked at some old dollar miite movies
Speaker 1: wait for you, but you're doing a hip hop. You
Speaker 1: are the You're the king, the first pamper hip hop.
Speaker 1: You're the first person that made us proud to be
Speaker 1: who you are will you want to be? We want
Speaker 1: to salute you, too short. Let's still say that we
Speaker 1: love you. We want to say that we want to
Speaker 1: keep continue, and you look the same. You ain't aging.
Speaker 1: We are saluting you, my brother. You know a great guy.
Speaker 1: We love you. Drink champs, love you definitely, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna root some champagne. I've been drinking you hard. Look,
Speaker 1: I know you're a parent. You know this podcast. We
Speaker 1: don't keep it going. I'm never alright, always almost almost
Speaker 1: get into this night like man, too short, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming to drink chaps. I'm sorry, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just keep coughing for no. Thank you too, sure,
Speaker 1: ain't stop coughing. Hit the way again. It's like your
Speaker 1: TV shop yesterday. What happened on my TV show yesterday?
Speaker 1: Oh yo? We had scared faces, faces like I'm in Miami, nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we just we just got off the cruise.
Speaker 1: Face bluke. We was all on this cruise. Hi five
Speaker 1: five Yo'll take you so much, stain