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Speaker 1: Not right now, we have imagined we have a super

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Speaker 1: I want to say he's the first person because because

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Speaker 1: He's the guy who's single handedly made beat what's my

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Speaker 1: favorite word? I don't know why. Every time I say

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Speaker 1: This is how much it is. The HiFi movement, everything

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Speaker 1: person that we saluted as the first pimp and rat,

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Speaker 1: legend that every promote I ever speak to, I ever

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Speaker 1: let's a salute to that rape job. You saw that

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Speaker 1: said that crack cocaine invented in Oakland, it was l

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Speaker 1: a but then they they used cities like Oakland to

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Speaker 1: Dean taught me how to be a player. This nigga

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Speaker 1: motherfucker and you know. It's just it was a colorful environment. Man.

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Speaker 1: there with some money, if you know what I think.

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00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: So Dean got all these professionals together, musicians that played

425
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: all instruments, niggas that have been in you know, different

426
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 1: bands with because Oakland got a lot of music history.

427
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: So these niggas that played with Tower and Power and

428
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: Larry Graham and James and all kind of motherfucker's. It

429
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: was just it was professionalism. And he put me in

430
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: the studio with these niggas, these like older cats. He

431
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: even had some rock and roll dudes around. It was

432
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: just it was a great environment to become too short.

433
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't really doesn't sound really healthy, but it was

434
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: a great environment to develop the character. Too short and

435
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: we made. We just go to studio since session started

436
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: LEMPM in the six am, and it was just you know,

437
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: it's like college for me, you know what I'm saying.

438
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: But the main thing was the nigga was really running

439
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: the independent label and he was really going to the studio.

440
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: And he's the one who took you to job going. No,

441
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: he was the one that he just taught me this ship.

442
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: So we go to the studio, the ship mixed down,

443
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: we got this other motherfucker. We get cassettes and wax

444
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: pressed up. We got this other motherfucker. And he he

445
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: sells the ship to multiple record stores and then we

446
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: drive up to individual record stores and just carry the

447
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: ship in and sell it to him. Because it's true,

448
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: like like y'all invented independent hustling for that. How I

449
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: got lucky was one day I'm one Dean, this nigga,

450
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, the nigga that taught you the game. You're

451
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: looking up to. This nigga is driving bins. He's the nigga.

452
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm like, what's what we're doing next?

453
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: And then one day Deans, like about tw years into it,

454
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: he was like man to me and his little brother

455
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I need you to get the funk out of my house. Yeah,

456
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: focus music, ship, just get the way, don't come around.

457
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't know more, but we like family. His mom

458
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: is like my mom, and his cousins like my cousin.

459
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: We ain't going too far right up the street. But

460
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: still now he was like, I don't want to more

461
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: parts of it. So that all we had to do

462
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: now is we've been running with Dean for two years,

463
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: to the motherfucking studio, to the manufacturer, to the negati

464
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: did the artwork, to the motherfucking distributor picking up the check.

465
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Were right there with what do we do? We do

466
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: the ship without him, nigga, we made so much motherfuckers,

467
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: and that's how you are. That's how I found me,

468
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: and then job came to you. We didn't give a

469
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: funk about the signing bonus and nothing. We're just like,

470
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna give us national distributions. Let's right. You know

471
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: in New York it was the exact opposite of that wine. Why, yeah,

472
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: you'll be trying to get a deal, right, We'll be

473
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: trying to get a deal first. But we heard or

474
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: something because we heard that Richmond, California. You guys in yeah, Oakland,

475
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: like you guys in like like y'all was actually like

476
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: when you said selling out the trunk, we meant that

477
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: as selling it to fat beats. We wasn't selling I'm

478
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna keeping it honest with you. We wasn't selling out

479
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: the trunk, y'all. Was literally we had boxes in the

480
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: back of selling out the motherfucking trunk. And it wasn't

481
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: no trunk. It was actually a fucking truck trunk, actually truck. Wow.

482
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: The same thing with Master P. Man Master was in

483
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: the Bay. He was in the Bay. His family they

484
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: owned like record stores. He owned the record store in Richmond.

485
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Master P was from New Orleans, came out to the

486
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: Bay and he started making them West Coast down South

487
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: compilations and ship and then he he blew the funk

488
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: up and set up shop down in the bathroom as well.

489
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Master he was in the Bay, which sucks sing after

490
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: independent game. So yeah, y'all, y'all told us the independency

491
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: ship like every time, it was just a no option thing. Though.

492
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: Man if I had sucking Tommy Boy and motherfucking uh

493
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: goddamn Profile Records was up the street. I've been up

494
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: there telling my hooked me to funk up, but we

495
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: didn't have it. So you guys got had to always

496
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: look at New York people like, damn y'all lazy. How

497
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: how y'all gotta deal on y'all in the city. I

498
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: had a rap partner before, like eighty five. My rap

499
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: partner got caught up in the in the crack game

500
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: and we never heard this. Let's make some noise to

501
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: do short for giving us the fred Freddy he was,

502
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: he was popping. It was it was Freddie being too short.

503
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: It was that nigga. That nigg was an Oakland nigga

504
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: born in brand New Niggas on every side of the town.

505
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: It was he was. He was like the plug for me,

506
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: like just walking the streets with um. Yeah before that though, UM, okay,

507
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: the weed is working because yeah, no, I ain't gonna

508
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: lie to you. I this song with you back in

509
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: the days. But for you to sit down and sit

510
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: down and chill, because you know what this is. It's

511
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: about letting legends live again. You know what I'm saying.

512
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: This is the Drink Dry podcast is about. And for

513
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: you to just sit down and you not to deny

514
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: me pass you the weed. I am very happy. My

515
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: brother the guy has spoken up blood with too short interviewing,

516
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: too short. Fun know this is a serious legend. Were

517
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: like eighty four, me and Freddy B. We're talking about

518
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: all right, that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get

519
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: two great hand tickets. We wrote down the list every

520
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: motherfucking twelve inches that came out, every every single that

521
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: dropped out of New York, all the different labels. We

522
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: wrote down an address to the motherfucking label. Were like

523
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: on the Greyhound, we're going these fucking address. We don't

524
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: get us a record out like that was the That

525
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: was the option. Listen all you knew niggers need to

526
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: listen to what he just said. Oh my god, can't

527
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: continue please, that's that's just a crazy story. These guys

528
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: just stole it on the internet and just hope Kevin

529
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Lyles call them gag continue. Yeah, but you know it

530
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: was going. We had plans, man like, it was like

531
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: options and ship and then we got with that independent

532
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: game and it should just happened like Dean. Dean showed

533
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: me how to do it. I always give credit to

534
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: him for it and what I did when I got it,

535
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: I passed it. On to one of my homies. Okay

536
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: to do who I am who came back around After

537
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: I quit fucking with Dean, I still needed somebody to

538
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: come with some money to make the dream come true.

539
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: I knew how to do it, but I didn't have

540
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: the money no more. So my man tear Bow hanning

541
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: him and uh big ted little tear they got. They

542
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: got a little rap in the street to Oakland. People

543
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: know who that is. They they came through, put a

544
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: nigger back in the game with the you know, studio

545
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: time and being ever press up the ship and all

546
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: that ship, and we just kind of we blew up

547
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: from there. Man, we went to the next motherfucking level.

548
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: We're just I'm just every every I think. It was

549
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: like every fifteen racks would make me like sixty or

550
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: some ship like that. Every fifteen racks you spend, yeah,

551
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: we'll make you six dealers. Listen to this pay attention.

552
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: And it was clear legit money, and we we flip.

553
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: We kept flipping it so many times. We just kept

554
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: on getting this is when you're just in though. We

555
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: go buy fifteen thousand casents and selling for sixty racks,

556
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: and we did that. Give you the upper handle when

557
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: the Drive came knocking. Yeah, but all we wanted from

558
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Drive with distribution the way we did the Ship, we

559
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: just we just want to get a different deal though,

560
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: compared to like someone in New York that was signing

561
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: the Drive because trip we thought we did in the

562
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: long the mother's slick man, because that's what I'm wondering.

563
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: We got. We had some ship, and we had to

564
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: bullshit too. But it's cool. We we've met a lot

565
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: of money. How you've been in the job. How many

566
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: years I was on that motherfucker from Hue eighty eight

567
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: until like goddamn damn me in two thousand and it

568
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: was a long time. Let's make some money A long time.

569
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: A lot of moms that a lot of motherfuckers. You

570
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: don't have fun on job. Let me say it's funny day.

571
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: So I wrapped a long time before I got a deal.

572
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I did a lot of ship before I gotta deal.

573
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: I gotta deal in eight eight, and I had been

574
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: rapping like seven eight years already, So I had all

575
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: these rap songs that I put out in the streets

576
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: to people new and love. When I signed the Jive,

577
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: it shot me to check the albums win nationwide checks

578
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: came back, you know the Royal Teaching ship that shot

579
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: the next up front. I'm like, nigga, Like, you know,

580
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: we was getting money, grinding, hustling. I was like, Nigga,

581
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: this niggers gonna keep sending me hundreds of thousands if

582
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: I make songs. Nigga. I went back until I had

583
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: a box. Well, I didn't have a rap book. I

584
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: had a box full of wraps I've been right in

585
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: for years and just little tapes in the street. I

586
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't that box and recycle every motherfucking line in there,

587
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: but I would just scratch out the line if I

588
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: use it. I was using them old wraps for the

589
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: next eight years. Should I wrote for eight years prior,

590
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I used for eight years. In my deal, I put

591
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: out an album probably every nine months. And now, what

592
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: would you getta see to yourself more of a wrapper

593
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: or more of a CEO and the hustler. Well, as

594
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: far as rap goes, I think I'm a real, real

595
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: major hip hop fan and I always put myself outside

596
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: the circle of what I'm calling hip hop niggas. Was like, oh,

597
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: they nigga spit them bars. You know that ship, Like

598
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: I was strictly just pounding in the trunk, talking ship.

599
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: And I could have taught a lot of niggas, no

600
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: matter what the integrity of you as a man, I

601
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: could have taught you how to talk that ship and

602
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: make that ship pound. You would have had a million

603
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: fans like me, like it just was you talk shit.

604
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm saying ship talking versus spitting bars and

605
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: all this ship and being a rapper. But see, oh man,

606
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I look at it like we hustlers, man, because we

607
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: we we started company, and we don't say you're my boss,

608
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: and that like were hustling to get this money doing something.

609
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: We didn't drop niggas off on the way. Because we're

610
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: hustling and getting money. It's a lot of money coming

611
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: in and niggas like call me when you're going to lunch,

612
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, we're up at seven in

613
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: the morning pressing up ship and picking up ship and

614
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: moving it around, you know, and we and we partied

615
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: all last night, but we're up in the morning grinding

616
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: getting the ship to where we can get these checks back.

617
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I always thought about bank deposits. Yeah you need to

618
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: be you need to be making more money, and yeah,

619
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: you have took that in the bank. I need to

620
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: try to put that in the bank, so I'll put

621
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: that on my mattress. I'm a foul, don't. I'm like,

622
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: how the fund can we make get to the bank

623
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: and put money in? Uh? We? So we're grinding man

624
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: like the Nias done at that same black minded philosophy.

625
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: He was dropping him off on the way. Welcome to

626
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities

627
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at

628
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with

629
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Rapper and R and d Jes. Then, now, how did

630
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: you get the minutes to Society Brow? How did you

631
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: because you just don't are you handing? Really? Okay? The

632
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Hughes brothers, this is what I think happened. The brothers

633
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: are a really real big Bay Area hip hop fans

634
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: and they from Pomona somewhere in l A. They love

635
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: Bay rapped there to say this is what they told me.

636
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: And Tupac had just funked off his partner movie by

637
00:32:51,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: beating one of the brothers. So, um so Park was

638
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: off the movie. And if you notice, it's not a

639
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of star power. You got but Park didn't have

640
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: your role. No no, no, no, no, he didn't he

641
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: had You're supposed to be the it that was. So

642
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: they needed a little star power and they just uh

643
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: they strictly just brought me into that they could have

644
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: like somebody name branding that motherfuckering. Then they they just

645
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: happened to be major too short fans if you noticed,

646
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: they came and got me for their next little documentary movie.

647
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Uh what was it called? American pamp Oh? Yes, and

648
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: let me set you though, you're supposed to be in there,

649
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: go ahead. So it was it was just a matter

650
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: that man, I came in there and work for a

651
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: few days and kicked it. That minister Society, the cold

652
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: ass movie. You had the coldest role in there. Yeah,

653
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: they learning you know, I'm not that was a cold world.

654
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not only pulled the trap on no dog, that's

655
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: the movie. Let's make some noise and put on trap

656
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: roll dog. That's a fact that that's I mean for us,

657
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: especially us from New York. Um. You know, when we've

658
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: seen you, when we see n Way, when we've seen

659
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: many society boys in the hood, that's when we actually

660
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: realize y'all culture because we knew that hip hop. I

661
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: think comment had made the record. I love her, and

662
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: but when they went over there, yeah, I used to

663
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: love But when it went over there, yeah, I was

664
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: so different. And for me everything was about buildings. Everything

665
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: was about like when I see in the face ye

666
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: and you chopped it up and this was the craziest

667
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: thing to see you guys in your element. You know

668
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but but the crazy thing is

669
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: you was from South Central and then you went up

670
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: north North North Cow, so you called it up North

671
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: and North Yeah, north count Two different worlds, two different

672
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: The Mexican gangs they divide them, the slang words, the

673
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: dress come wow yeah makes you could adapt to both

674
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: worlds still. I mean to this day, to this day,

675
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: you can still love that. I an't gonna lie. I

676
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: had a promoter hit me one time and it was

677
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: a It was a lady. It was like, you want

678
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: too short at the easiest people to um handle, and

679
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: I was like, why is that? It was like, you

680
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: don't ask for here and make up. They just want

681
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: the land and we miss the diva ship. What's Yeah.

682
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, what's the pick up? You can

683
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: take that where did Mike at how it makes you

684
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: need one? So that but after minutes, how did your

685
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: life change? Because that had to be the biggest music

686
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: movie at that time. Man, I ain't gonna lie. Man,

687
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: what I had going on at that moment was bigger

688
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: than that movie. My Ship was platinum, platinum, platinum, that movie.

689
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: That movie like some side shout, I wouldn't there was

690
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: a side. It was a slot. I was already popping

691
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: so that the movie came out hit hard, but it was.

692
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: It was one of the ones that kind of like

693
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Purple Rain kind of movie where kind of lasted and

694
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: lasted and lasting. We don't go still last. You watch

695
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: it right now on TV or you know, and edited

696
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: it's still it's the Ship movie. The boys made a

697
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: good movie. But you know, man, that whole New York

698
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: West Coast thing I used to I used to go

699
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: to New York. What you're telling me now? Like I

700
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: used to go to New York. And I know for

701
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: a fact it wasn't really about the music, because motherfucker's like, man,

702
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I really needn't hear too much that you did. But

703
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: they'd be like man, respect some respect, kids like like

704
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: it would be it was the fact then it was

705
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: a nationalize just like if you're the man, you're the

706
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: man in your hood. So I asked my New Yorkers,

707
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean that they keep saying respect?

708
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: They like they're showing you love. Like it's just saying,

709
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, ship, that's that's a big deal for New

710
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Yorker says that you respect. So I was like, okay, cool,

711
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: but it wasn't about the music, and and you know,

712
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: I kind of um, I kind of uh, you know,

713
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: I started hanging out in New York a little bit.

714
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Man after a WI they love you in New York.

715
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that, but you know,

716
00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: the whistle blow, the whistle come on. Getting in the

717
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: studios though in New York moving around, I didn't. I

718
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: didn't been on I've been on three jay Z albums,

719
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: two big albums. Going in was it was going in?

720
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: How did that first feel? Like? You know, Jay wanted

721
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: to mess with you. You're all the way on the

722
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: other side of the coast and he wanted I got

723
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: I got the B I G blessing the I G.

724
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: Just he was what you worked your big before, JA,

725
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: or do you work with big first? And then he

726
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: told me this ship. Man, he told me this ship

727
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: the first time I met him. He can't. He called

728
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: me over to a limo where was at the outcast

729
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: picnic and Limos was popping back, nig a limo right now?

730
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: If you fucked up, you put up in a limo.

731
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody niggas Like who who's sucking Bob Dylan up

732
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: right now? Like yeah, But back then, I understand that

733
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Limos was that They caught me up to the limo

734
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: and you know, rolling winder that and I walked leaning

735
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: over and it's it's a friendly event outdoor, you know,

736
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: this matching this ship on the on the front line

737
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: of background all around the house and ship, and he

738
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: caught me over and he just said, yo, yo, you

739
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: got love in Brooklyn. That's all he said. Yeah, Like

740
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: what's up? So then a couple of years later, Niga

741
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: is a super making stuff. But but hold on because

742
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: I want your continior story. But did you know how

743
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: much New York loved you? Because New York loved you?

744
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: And That's what I'm getting at. It was it was

745
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: a gradual you know understanding that I didn't even I

746
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: wasn't getting it for a minute. Okay, so um he

747
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: told me that ship and then a couple of years

748
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: later we're sitting on the tour of us spoken some weed.

749
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: He was like, you remember that time you came on

750
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: to the limits like you gotta love in Brooklyn? He

751
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: said that was me. I'm like, damn, you know, like

752
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, so he wasn't biggie when he

753
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: told you that. He probably was already had his deal

754
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: and ship. He was a party, but he was some

755
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: noise for two short breaking the story and off, Oh

756
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So you met Big before he was big

757
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: and he told you you had loving Brooklyn and you

758
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: see him later that later on we started being homies

759
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: and ship. We're making songs. We did that Out of

760
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: the World is field Hose so too short? You keep

761
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: making me pop my collar the whole episode of making

762
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: your Sight. I just I've been like that and now

763
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm a hyphian because I go out there recently. I'm sorry,

764
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna ride the river every Yeah, you know,

765
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Big just we we just became friends, man, And you know,

766
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: he he told me about how how New Yorker is

767
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: for the most part, wasn't really feeling like listening to

768
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: any other hip hop outside New York and he's like, man,

769
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: I've been listening to everything though. He was plaming Ship

770
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: like he listened all down South Ship and he was like,

771
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: I like him. I like Ship. So so he was

772
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: one of them cats who was open without any kind

773
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: of bias, and he um he wanted to work, like,

774
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: let's do a song. And then the way I did

775
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: this song with him and he sent Puffy to come

776
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: get me. You're like, you know, like Puffers that you

777
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: can't say no kind of nigger. So puff was like, man,

778
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: you know Big want you on the song. I've never

779
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: been able to say no toll to this day. And

780
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: he was like people think he had a soft he

781
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: was a bully. Man, He's a bully. He's a bullet.

782
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: This this is a funny story that Big came to

783
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: the Oakland and I think somebody took his chain. I

784
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: ain't heard that one. Didn't heard that one. You didn't

785
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: heard that one. I heard forty helped that out. Okay,

786
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: you know what I moved to Atlanta was talking about

787
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta movement. You were responsible from Atlanta being the

788
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: pipin country. Atta what wait, Eric sermon, we moved to Atlanta.

789
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: You moved to Atlanta early? What year did you move?

790
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Is that why they got strip clubs in Atlanta. I

791
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: didn't move to Atlanta for the music industry. I moved

792
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: to that motherfucker for the for the property, the culture

793
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: that I was. I was down there. It was it

794
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: was like easy math. It was real estate was like

795
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: one fourth of what California ship table dances at the

796
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: strip of how much in California that the ratio of

797
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: women and men was like on even one it was

798
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: going down and it was just it was like you

799
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: was the first person to crack the outlets, some noise

800
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: for him to crack the out you know. Now you

801
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: know who beat me? There was some things that beat me.

802
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: Eric Simon showed up like a little bit before me.

803
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown was acting brown. He was atron

804
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: was sucking everything he was in that motherfucker I got

805
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: sucking everything. It was his prerogative, it was his proa man.

806
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: He was sucking everything. I ain't got everywhere like I

807
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: was a little nigga. See everybody brow like whoever. I

808
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna suck him the night? Yeah, go ahead,

809
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. I got Yeah. So you know Dallas

810
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Austin was starting his ship. He was. He was involved

811
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: with the whole TELC come up. L A Read was

812
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: already and then he had the glove one when you

813
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: met him, nothing good. I don't know he were in

814
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: gloves or spikes and ship. He's a little different. He

815
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: was rocking ron Dallas back. He was a rock star.

816
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: He was. He's a rock star. He's always That's what

817
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I was trying to establish. So you know, he's old

818
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: g He helped me out. La Ray was who he

819
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: is because he was all of that that. The face

820
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: was there, he had Tony Braxton ship already been platting.

821
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: He had like artist Tony Terry, he was the face

822
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: was established and then there was no outcasts. It wasn't

823
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: no giddy mobs, wasn't you know. Criss Cross probably had

824
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: like you know, a single or some ship. The new ship.

825
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: They were still jumping around and ship. I got there

826
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: right when it started. Gucci Crew, I think on I

827
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: got you know, the tag team was bawling and the

828
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: Face Records, yeah you heard that just now. He was

829
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: at the Face Records. They never offered me ship. Let's

830
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: just make some noise for too short for raping the industry.

831
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: Come on, so, I mean I was just there for

832
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: young Atlanta. You know the architecture, what coming from coming

833
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: from you're born, You're born in South Central to Oakland

834
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: and now you in the Land and then eyeball Atlanta.

835
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm at the freakneck like what I'm come back? Did

836
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: you realize that this was born to be the music scene?

837
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: You was just out there. I went to the I

838
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: had already been touring out there doing doing concerts and

839
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: ship and then we're gonna Magic City and around. I

840
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: knew the lifestyle. Now Magic City is where Players Club

841
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: is based on that it could be what what did

842
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: you feel like when you've seen the Players Club? Was

843
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: that true to you or to the lifestyle? I was

844
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: living Cuba's my nigger to the lifestyles living. That's very

845
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: water down strip club experience in that movie. I've never

846
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: really seen a strip club to give you a movie

847
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: to give you that real fucking strip club feeling that real.

848
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: So we're gonna make the Moor drink chaps, We're gonna

849
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: make the movie together. I never captured that the real

850
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: strip club experience. And now all you're saying in the

851
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 1: Bay Area. Now I'm talking aboutwhere it's a whack on

852
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: the West Coast. I don't I don't even strip clubs

853
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. I forget Miami. We got it here, man,

854
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: we got no I ain't gonna lie Miami. You ain't

855
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: doing if you ain't doing it like Miami or Atlanta,

856
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Miami cities like Dallas, and if the best don't get

857
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: button and you can have a drink in the same building,

858
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: it's bullshit. Let's make some noise for too short Norman

859
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: about the real strip cloth strip right there is in

860
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: New York the time to time to go to sus

861
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: Wanda boos and you know, I'm like, it's a strip

862
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: club in l a with a bitch, um a bitch

863
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: where three pairs of panties. She barely get topless for

864
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: a minute. She keeps poking the titty out and then

865
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: every time the bitch pull her panties back, it's another

866
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: pair of panties under it. If I was in the hotel,

867
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: that would work for me. Put in the strip club

868
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: with nic I'm in Atlanta, man, I'm getting there, you know,

869
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: before I moved there. And you're like, you get a

870
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: dance right, she can't. You say, can I get a dance?

871
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: And you say, let me see that pussy? So she

872
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: before you even get the dance, you're like, let me

873
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: just see what I'm getting into, and then you go, oh, yeah,

874
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: I want to dance based on if you like what

875
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: you see. You ain't doing that at no. You know

876
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 1: the other joints, you know, sometimes they call the strip clubs.

877
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: They shouldn't call them naked clubs because girls don't even strip,

878
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: they wear nothing. They only call them. I'm not gonna

879
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: lie with some clubs. They walk around but as naked

880
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: you don't even have to have a top of bottom.

881
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: She just walking around already naked. I'm not gonna She

882
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: thought I was a pimp for a week. It didn't

883
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: work out for me. I was, It wouldn't bet for me.

884
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. I just I got compassion.

885
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, because should be a p you can't

886
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: have nothing. You can't have no like you know, I

887
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: really feel like I could be a really good pimp,

888
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: but I got this other good ass job called rapping.

889
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: I can't got that. Every time you dabble in some

890
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: pimping and this is getting a few gee, she's getting

891
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: some geezs bringing him Like you just did all that

892
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: stressing me to funk out, And that wasn't number two

893
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: shovels to me because they can't they can't touch the

894
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: money they're supposed to bring the money back. That's a

895
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: real pimp. So you're just having a good month. You

896
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: get uh walking around this now you get like fifteens

897
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: out the bush of the Mother. That's a few shows.

898
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: That's a couple of shows. That's nothing. She's gonna stretch

899
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: you the funk out. Yeah, yeah, you're right, keep that ship.

900
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: You do a show? My dig sucked after So how

901
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: does it feel, Christophirst? Because you you did a song

902
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: with jay Z and Biggie Small and multiple songs and

903
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: bok Yeah and Snoop. How that's That's something I'm really

904
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: proud of in a career, super super super g and

905
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: in a career, I am that all those guys are

906
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, legends on their way one or

907
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: the other. But when we're all going, yeah, you know,

908
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: I just want to be in that. Not many people

909
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: and bone doogs too, Right, did we do a song?

910
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not just many songs. I don't even know maybe

911
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna the homies up we did. Just told

912
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: you I did a song on your album. You don't

913
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: even remember. He was sitting there like work you did

914
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: when you did so much song, You're all we got

915
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: to bang that song? What then was the hook I

916
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: pull about my phone? Right now? People believe you having

917
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: But short man, how you like um all these years?

918
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: How do you maintain your love for hip hop? How

919
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: does that happen? Because I like that new ship ain't

920
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: gonna like I like you like, I like what it happens.

921
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the new right now. I'm

922
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: talking about every time, the new, every time to change,

923
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're the nigger, it's it's like sports,

924
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: just like the fucking head. When you're the nigga and

925
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: that next nigger come up like the super stud and

926
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: start getting a little more attending you, you start feeling

927
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the kind of way and you still feel the same

928
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: that nigga though before I'm like, I'm not nigga, who's

929
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: getting money? Who If I see a young nigga getting it,

930
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga getting get it? Nigger, Like that's real, man,

931
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: Because you understand what you just said, some noise for

932
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: that guy. Everybody, camerady, that's real because I'm promoting that ship.

933
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: Let's all get it. Let's get it, you know what

934
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then when you get it, you're wrong

935
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: if you don't pass it on. It's all wrong. If

936
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: you don't share this some kind of way, don't give

937
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: it away, but teach the next nigger how to how

938
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: to get it too, because you always have fun with

939
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: the game. Like every time I've seen you, I don't

940
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: care where I see you are. You're walking through you

941
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: looking good. You know what I'm saying. Like there's other

942
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: people who don't do that. You know what happens. Those

943
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: blessings they come around. Man, it's come back around. There's

944
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: been a time in my life where ship was sucked up.

945
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: That's some fun up ship. And then somebody who I

946
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: showed that love to, it's like, what's wrong? Bam? You know?

947
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: And instantly and then O for the love And how

948
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: about my man Mr fabi mus for Mr Faber's that's

949
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: like my son, let's make noise for Mr Fabian too,

950
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: short side. We just saw him. And then something south

951
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: was with cows. Oh yeah, thirty years of round cows that. Yeah, yeah,

952
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: that's my name, that's my brother. Thirty years of rapping.

953
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I'm like, we get we're getting money other ways.

954
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: We can do this ship with it without the microphone.

955
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: We can get down right, but you still enjoy what

956
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: you do. Flab came to me and uh it was like,

957
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: man've been rapped the thirty years. You gotta make an albums.

958
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: So I'm doing an album called the thirtieth Anniversary. And

959
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: and my man came in there kind of a and

960
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: on my album for me, just you know, just kind

961
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: of just kind of like a beautiful thing, whole bunch

962
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: of ship. We're doing the hoods and ship and just

963
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: just just like putting Nick in shape, Like you know,

964
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: you get a nick in shape right right, you gotta

965
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: nig in shape for get ass album. So I got

966
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm an old ass snake. I just turned fifty, like

967
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: last Thursday, turn fifty, got damage and then her motherfucking fifty.

968
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: We had caress one here and he had to all

969
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: peak cars. It's correct, yea man, you know my age. Yeah,

970
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: he definitely said he's fifty. Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely said

971
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: he's fifty. Ain't nothing wrong, but you know what's crazy

972
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: short you you look young, you're doing young ship and

973
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: you still have the love for it. Like I could

974
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: look at you when I asked you these questions. You

975
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: really still love hip hop? No, it's the hustle thing.

976
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm about to get on the mic and wrap in

977
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: front of the crowd tonight. It ain't ship tonight. I

978
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: grabbed the mic and live last night, Yeah and live.

979
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I was so tired that we

980
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: had a long. We had a long. I wish I

981
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: knew you was there. So you never lost your love

982
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: for hip hop now once? Not for wrap now No, No,

983
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: because you could be a lean with a rock with

984
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: and like that. They Okay, look you gotta you got

985
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of motherfucker's that like this new weird ship.

986
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: That's what you're saying. That's what you're seeing. Ship is weird.

987
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: How his motherfucker's like it. I try to get around

988
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: and figure out what is it that they like. It

989
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: must be the infectious beat, it must be the catchy,

990
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: it must be the way to make you dance. It's

991
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: something good about it. So I like, I'm like, oh

992
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: I get it. I try to get it, like why

993
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: did you nigga is dressing all weird? Oh I get it,

994
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: if it makes sense if you're dressing all weird, I

995
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't get that part. But they don't

996
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: want to be like us kids and their defense when

997
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: you look at the like the first pitches of hip hop,

998
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: the first it was dressing. But guess what these little

999
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: niggas that we're calling weird right now is just trying

1000
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: to look like the eighties with the Golden ship. So

1001
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: so with that being said and you being a pimp,

1002
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: you're being a real nigger. I've never heard too short.

1003
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: And the controversy other than when you ran from bullies.

1004
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: That was crazy. What happened when you ran from bullies?

1005
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. I was in that l a.

1006
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: I had an apartment. I had an apartment right across

1007
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: the street from right here from where I was running

1008
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: from side. I was about to dip up in the spot.

1009
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: And then it's nothing that ain't been done before. You

1010
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: gotta be careful. I'm just saying that it was crazy.

1011
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: We walked the line, but we walked the line. I

1012
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: talked to that brother, I was like, man, I did

1013
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: all the tests, all this ship I wasn't even drunk.

1014
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: I was like it had been it was three thirty,

1015
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: the drinking that stopped a while ago. I wasn't gonna

1016
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: walk these bitches to that car, okay, because the bitches

1017
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: ship is for real. Let's make some noise keeping it.

1018
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like I can't call these bitches bitches

1019
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: because after I got all the trouble, they never called

1020
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: back once and said, okay, listen, it was just bitches

1021
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: I met that night. Walked these bitches to the car.

1022
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: I said, no, you know what, I live right over there.

1023
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: It's like about a block and a half. I'm gonna

1024
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: drive it all over this three hang out on my spot.

1025
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive you all over there. Drove him over

1026
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: there and hit a little you turn to come back

1027
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: and turn the light on me. He made me do

1028
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: all this ship. And you know, the nigga who saw

1029
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: the video of the TMZ was like one of the

1030
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: security dudes from the club I was. It was all

1031
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: right there in the neighborhood that was like a supper

1032
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: club I went to that night Tuesday night. I'm like,

1033
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: even even then, they got heard the nigger sell the

1034
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: video for like five hundred days like we would have

1035
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: gave him five thousand, like that bullshit you got there.

1036
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: But it was some good press though, Like I do

1037
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: like the good press that you get when you get

1038
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: to Yeah, but is it the first time you realize

1039
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: the power Internet or you've been new to the power.

1040
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I realized. I was

1041
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: in my forties, because you get the building. I said, dude,

1042
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I live right there. I said, you got my car.

1043
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: I said, I'll leave this motherfucker here. Whatever, man, just this,

1044
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: I live right there. You know. He's like, you gotta

1045
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: blow for me, like man, I told. I said, Man,

1046
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: I might not. I was drinking earlier. I just I

1047
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: told the whole story. I'm like, sucking right there. A

1048
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of times. The copy like, all right, man, just

1049
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, leave the car here, you know, go home.

1050
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: This things like you gotta blow. I was like, is

1051
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: that my only option? That was the last thing I

1052
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: asked you could, did you know. I mean, honestly, that's

1053
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: one of the ones I regret because I have some

1054
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: converse low cut um um, the Chuck chillers, yeah, the

1055
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: Chuck Taylor's, Yeah, you can't run to those. And I

1056
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: was I was just mad because I was like, those

1057
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: are like the Kanye West news leagues. You're running those

1058
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: it's over. You think I had like another broad still

1059
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: at the spot, I'm like, I gotta get back. It

1060
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: ain't over. It like going up. So that's just real deal.

1061
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: You really have broads, Like wherever every city you go,

1062
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: you have broads or or you stop that. That's I'm

1063
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna tell you like this at this at this stage

1064
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: in the game, I'm not trying to be young short

1065
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: dog anymore. I'm not doing this. I used to go

1066
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: when I go out, I'm like call of homies, like

1067
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, hang out with a lot of chicks. I

1068
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: like eight time we go out. That was my normal.

1069
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: I might do some like that tonight, but really, uh tonight, Yeah,

1070
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in Miami. You want me to hang

1071
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: with you tonight? I want to just see how it

1072
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: goes down. I'm in Miami, so I'm really not the one.

1073
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: You've been doing this in Miami for the long time,

1074
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not coordinated. The chicks. It's like Miami is

1075
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: like you know, the girls they do it. They're just

1076
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: like you got the girls who could corded the girls

1077
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: and they just make some hot five five. For That's

1078
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is back in the day, I would

1079
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: literally get in my phone and called like these two,

1080
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: those two those to meet me. I did that ship

1081
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: up until about three or four years ago. I kind

1082
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: of just like chilled it out a little bit. Now

1083
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: now I might go out with like two or three

1084
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: and just you know. Another secret to what I do

1085
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: is a lot of guys they try to funk all

1086
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: the women. I just try to hang out with him

1087
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: and just hang out to be cool and ship happened,

1088
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: were cool. It's that's you know's a secret weapon for

1089
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: you will Charlie Skins, he didn't secret who else you

1090
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: gotta tell? Sunday dB he knows about the make some

1091
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: noise for a horny if you're we gott Donald's let

1092
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: me call them all group like no crewe if you're

1093
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: a horny mantana like if you if you want to

1094
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: suck everything, you're like me personally. I've seen a couple

1095
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: of my horny dudes we in bur Burn, um let

1096
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: me pronounce this right, um Berlin, Germany. I've seen my

1097
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: my homie finger Papa bitch in the butt in the club,

1098
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: not in the club, in the butt. I say, slime,

1099
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: this is not this is I'm uncomfortable with this. I

1100
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: actually can't. I can't partake. He's like, no, this is

1101
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: how we're doing it, like in the butt. In the club,

1102
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: I gotta skill out, I gotta leave, you know what

1103
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean. But there's a lot of horny people. Yeah,

1104
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: so that's how pimps actually got a honey. I gotta honey.

1105
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: He he was kind of like kind of Timmy kind

1106
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: of guy. Man. It wasn't really like aggressive with the ladies,

1107
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: but then you know, he kind of had He's like

1108
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: a rock star kind of the kind of world. It's

1109
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: like ponytail ship like nigga and he wanted to hang

1110
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: out with us one night and I was like, dude,

1111
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: you can't where we're going. You can't get down like that.

1112
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: So we literally sent the nigga somewhere he was He

1113
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: wasn't from Okland, but he was passing through. We sent

1114
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: the nigga down to where the pimps get their hair

1115
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: downe and ship and got him a pimp hair due

1116
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: out of his you know, last we turn we turned

1117
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: him into like on certain kind of clothes and then

1118
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: he got to the party. He's like, still the same nigga, Like,

1119
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: what do I do? Said the way you look, just

1120
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: walk up to every bit and say, I'm Mike bitch

1121
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: a right right, Boris guess we came back and tell

1122
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: me at the party later on, he said, nigga, that

1123
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: ship works. You know, I'm gonna be honest. I hung

1124
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: out with Bishop don for like a whole weekend. He

1125
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: had me gass right. So what happened was they gave

1126
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: me a famous player car. You remember the famished player car.

1127
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: It's gold. They gave me won seven on there and

1128
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: they asked me to come to the play ball. I

1129
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: got there and then you know, I'm on I'm I'm

1130
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: on road for real, like but I took two days

1131
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: out of my schedule. I walked into players Um playing ship.

1132
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: It was a white bitch that was I'm walking in.

1133
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: The white bitch said hey, how are you doing you?

1134
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, I don't even know if she asked me

1135
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: to take a picture. She asked me something and I said,

1136
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: bet you a better play I definitely didn't know, and

1137
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: she chose me. I said, bet you better choose. I

1138
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: don't know why I said that. In the b and

1139
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Bishop darma Um what's my nigga? Juju, pimp juju, all

1140
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: of us trying to knock me. They said, your noriri,

1141
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: and then the white bitch kept saying about me, and

1142
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what I did. I don't

1143
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: know what I did. You didn't get the memo? And

1144
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: then get the memo the pimp correctly, and then I

1145
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: wanted to pass off, but she really didn't want to

1146
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: be back. That nigga he got about. He always got

1147
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: about five or six holes. His bitches gotta stare at

1148
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the ground and can't look up that he now was

1149
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: what about like breaking down. It's kind of funny though,

1150
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: because his bitches are sitting somewhere, even when they sit down,

1151
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: the whole Chinese. They can never look up. They have

1152
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: to look at the ground, and they'd be sitting there

1153
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: talking to each other. And then if you dare like,

1154
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little crazy guy. So I just

1155
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: try to funk with him and break a little bit,

1156
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: like how y'all doing. They can't speak to no outside

1157
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: man nothing. They can't crazy. That's him out. That's just

1158
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: like you wearing your jury. He's wearing. He's showing you

1159
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: his pimpen. He's like I could have told him, bitches

1160
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: to look straight at here. I could have told him

1161
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: just the circle down, look that, don't never look up,

1162
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: don't talk to anybody except me or each other. I

1163
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. And that's just just how I knew

1164
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: I I wasn't ready for Pippen because my white bitch

1165
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: did that. My white bitches just like she wouldn't say

1166
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: I was prim jews ring pimpen kid and they both

1167
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: accept to me and said, he said, you play. You

1168
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing right now. I said, like God,

1169
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: I would't main leave alone, and she just kept looking.

1170
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: That's how I knew she was more spread. Nigga pimp

1171
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: and nig have pamp game and are of it. We're doing.

1172
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: It's a difference pimping and having pimp game because I

1173
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: like the way you broke that's. Having pamp game means

1174
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: that I probably could apply it. But I'm just I'm

1175
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: doing another ship. I don't don't even stressful, man, stressful,

1176
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: break that down it Then you tell you're telling the

1177
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: woman to do the stuff she's doing. There are fucking

1178
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: like repercussions to that ship. Man, mentally, like if its

1179
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: people's heads up. So you what doing with that ship

1180
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: because you're telling them to go on the call and

1181
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, don't funk with nobody with me. So when

1182
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: every time every emotion she goes through is coming to you.

1183
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something. After they do that

1184
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: they give you the money, do you have to make

1185
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: them feel like your girlfriend? Like they gotta feel up,

1186
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: you gotta do they go, You gotta do this ship.

1187
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: It's a lot of ship. Like if you want to

1188
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: really actually your chick, if you want to be a

1189
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: boss pam you have to be focused. That's what you do.

1190
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard this term because you say boss pamp. Yeah,

1191
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: that means you're in control. You want to on a

1192
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: run for a while. You got you can go to

1193
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: another state. But she's still You're still the boss pimper.

1194
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: You know. They called that long range pamper her anywhere,

1195
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on long range paper. I heard a

1196
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: long rage five your hold me over there be like

1197
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: long range in Hawaii. You fly back to l A

1198
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: and you come back three months later. And she got

1199
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: like forty seven thousand and just be like here she did.

1200
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: She didn't protected the money, she didn't protected herself and now, now,

1201
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: do you have to have sex with these women or

1202
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: you just you could just so this this is where

1203
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: I get sucked up. Bring it down for me short,

1204
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna let just called it the lame miss. Now.

1205
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: I've always considered myself to be a pimp and a player.

1206
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: I do have the pimp game, but I don't want

1207
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: what is the difference with piper a player player? You

1208
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: just you got the game to just run a bunch

1209
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: of chicks, but you don't want any interest in their

1210
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: money or them selling that you're just a player. Okay,

1211
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: get money, you're getting You're getting salad. Actually yeah, okay,

1212
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: So I consider myself to be a pimper player. Man,

1213
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I don't really Yeah, we

1214
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: don't have to. Um sure, I'm not gonna lie. You

1215
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: made me pop my collar like seventeen hundred times. I'm

1216
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: gonna keep popping. We'll put that. You know, if you

1217
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: got to really get a lot of games just playing back,

1218
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: listen to it. It's you know the game in there,

1219
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: like you really studying it goes by Mary my Mama's

1220
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm a lame. I'm sorry, but but in my trying

1221
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: to be a pimp, like every time I go to sleep, like, yeah,

1222
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to. But we are we are always

1223
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: students of life. We are get down, always learning, were

1224
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: always learning. You know what I was gonna tell you

1225
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: by my Puerto Rican just in case you thought I

1226
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: was Dominican. But it's okay. It's a New York story.

1227
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: Many in New York. Let's do it, Let's do it.

1228
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: But I was, you wouldn't baby Dominican reproblic I had

1229
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: a little of New York too. I had a little

1230
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: running with them with the hip hop. Holy sniggers, hit me,

1231
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: hit me up in a taxi, abs and and just

1232
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: they had like we had to strap in the car

1233
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and we gotta like a little answer week. We used

1234
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: to go up to him. We used to go up

1235
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: to the candy shop in Harlem and you know get

1236
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: they got called it the candy shop. We know what, Yeah,

1237
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: and the jaws or in the motherfucker try and go

1238
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: bang and look at my man, Eddie, God bless today.

1239
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: You know he died. Eddie looked first off, let me

1240
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: just let me just stop too short right now. He

1241
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: just fossed onto everybody on a real New York and

1242
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: this is the in the real New York Times. He

1243
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: just mentioned Branson. What you say daytime in Branson, Eddie Eddie,

1244
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: that's who run the spot. That was my nigger continuous story.

1245
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: So you know, we we we're riding around the ship

1246
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: and the niggas pull us over and these sucking taxi cabs,

1247
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: none of them got on uniforms, sucking up, flashing badges

1248
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: and ship. They actually take us out, put us. It's

1249
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: four niggas in the truck. They put each of us

1250
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: in a different cab. And I get in there, like

1251
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: three niggas in each cab. They jumped in my truck.

1252
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: Drive the motherfucker and we go to like some thirty

1253
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: seven street precincts, some ship somewhere every six thirty seven

1254
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: and and uh and then and they get ended up basically,

1255
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: and they ended up at a center street that one

1256
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: street down there, and I passed by a you was

1257
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: in the reel. That's the first first off, right now,

1258
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: if they lock you up up there, they have a

1259
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: preaching that they bring you to. That means that back

1260
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: in the days, they had to lock you up up

1261
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: there and bring you own. So, yeah, we're in there.

1262
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: Listen about a day and a half on the day.

1263
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: Then they got built out little later. But I walked

1264
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: by this one holding tank and I've seen these jet

1265
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: jet black ass niggers, like black ass nappy head niggas

1266
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: in and they're all speaking Spanish. And now this was

1267
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: like that ship weird to me, the funk out I

1268
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: didn't know. I thought they was black. I didn't, I didn't. Yeah,

1269
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: on the West coast, on the West coast, we got

1270
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: no nappy heads, don't have many. You don't see much yesterday,

1271
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: but yesterday's black under me. I'm saying, we don't have

1272
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: nappy head niggass, right, So I get back up, I

1273
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: get out of jail, I go up to drive records.

1274
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I've seen the weirdest ship in jail.

1275
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: Speak Spanish here the Dominicans. That's too short, making goddamn

1276
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: hold on. After that, after that, I made a point,

1277
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna meet some of these Spanish niggas,

1278
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: like for real. I meant that the Dominican niggas right

1279
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: at the gas chation and they popped at me. Up

1280
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: some man, we know you made me too short. You know,

1281
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: random ship that happens in New York I don't get

1282
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: spotted a lot back then, back to day in New York,

1283
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: and uh, they said that they got to get weed,

1284
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: and they sent me up to um. I don't know, man,

1285
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: I just you know, you get And then basically, if

1286
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to Branson, I was going up there,

1287
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: but I smoke New York. Last listen, let me tell

1288
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: you something. This this is now listen. Listen. Well he

1289
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: just broke down for you. There's people in New York

1290
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: who couldn't get weed and Branson because you had to

1291
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: have a certain type of plot and to be accepted.

1292
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: You have to be accepted in Branson. One time I

1293
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: went in Branson, Red Man was back there serving the weed.

1294
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: That man. Make some noise for red Man. Damn it on.

1295
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you took me there, I was out, you know.

1296
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one time I went to Branson. I'm

1297
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna keep it real with you, too short. It's one

1298
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: of my idols. It's gonna hurt me to tell a story,

1299
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell the story. I went up there.

1300
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: It's the Puerto Rican bree. I'm Puerto Rican. Sorry, I'm

1301
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: half Puerto Rican. But I'm just giving you. But you know, yeah,

1302
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. So but

1303
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: this day I'm Puerto Rican, right, So I go to

1304
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: Brant and I bought my ship. Bobby Brown pull up

1305
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: in the six hundred bens. To me, it was like

1306
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: Prince when he pulled up, purple smoke pulled out. It

1307
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: was a six DNS. I was like, damn, like you know,

1308
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: I know niggas got six hundred beans is, but I

1309
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: ain't actually seen it. Bobby Brown pulls up, right, bro ts,

1310
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: what's something nigg So he pulls up boom, Bobby Brown

1311
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: boss up. So he goes in Branson. I'm sitting there like,

1312
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: oh ship, Bobby motherfucking Brown. He looked at me though,

1313
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: he looked at me like a miss, like like I'm

1314
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: right here. He looked at me like this, and then

1315
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: he goes in Braston. Right. I'm like, damn, Nickas just

1316
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: like you to say, like, I don't know the dig

1317
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: eyes right next to my Chad. Right, Bobby Brown comes

1318
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: out and then he goes, yo, it's the Portagan Day parade, right,

1319
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I think me pun Joe, we all on the float

1320
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: this day, but I had took a break afterwards. I

1321
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: finished what we had to do. When I went up

1322
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: town and then Bobby Brown said to me, this is

1323
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: mad racist, by the way, he said for me the racist.

1324
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: He said to me, ain't you Puerto Rican? He said yeah,

1325
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: he said, you ain't got no cold coin. It was like,

1326
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: happens because you got You gotta realize in New York City,

1327
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: if you're from New York City, it's a cup. There's

1328
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: a couple of us here. When the port we parade

1329
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: shut down, like uptown to the right, it's shut down too,

1330
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: because they all over there. And so when they went there,

1331
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: I guess Bobby went there. He couldn't He couldn't get

1332
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: nothing from the coke spy. So he said you ain't

1333
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: you ain't your Puerto Rican? And I'm like yeah, He's like,

1334
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: take me over there. I was like, damn, why why

1335
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: do you think I could get you to coke because

1336
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: of Buerto Rican? Let's make some noise your body bround

1337
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: for being a wash that got bad. There's a positive

1338
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: side of that story. This was here. The positive. I mean,

1339
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: he's who is he with? He was with his security? Okay, well,

1340
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: I know I know the nigga sometimes to be like

1341
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: without security with that same bands riding up in any

1342
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: motherfucking head. Bobby takes a certain cloth to be that

1343
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: kind of nigga, to be that kind of nigga. You

1344
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You said, come on, we would

1345
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: have went with you. Yeah. Yeah, I'm luckily I did

1346
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: because which is my hero? Like you know, I'm younger

1347
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: because I'm younger at this Brown, listen, we need if

1348
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 1: we had him, wherever you at, we need you too,

1349
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 1: Shortest in the head man, I'm telling the Bobby is

1350
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: a classic man, He's a classic. He's always be my nigga.

1351
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: I remember with Jarro was actually from the video um

1352
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: uh when Jah and Brown and I Actually I was

1353
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: in l A. He was at that video. No, I

1354
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: wasn't not The video was video the Ecstacy videos. Exstacy

1355
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: was ruling ship at one point. Let's white girl go listen,

1356
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: short man, I really appreciate you for coming out in

1357
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: a great sport. Are you gonna dread the champagne with us?

1358
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: And I keep it hard? You keep Paul? What are

1359
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: you doing? What is that my time? For? Now? We

1360
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: might we switched this a little. This is little raguls.

1361
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: We switched. I want to have a one with short

1362
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: excuse me, wrong, shot outside ball. You know you got

1363
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: you got the other rout wet that's my brother. We

1364
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: gotta shot a slottle pope man for making this happen.

1365
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: Can we get two buckets and pineapples because I gotta

1366
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: have a drink with uh um? She got close to

1367
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: pinteapple like apple. Alright, it works for me. So too

1368
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: short man. You've been coming to Miami for a long time,

1369
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: with Miami to you know Luke Stories, no to life. Yeah,

1370
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: Luke Man, I've been on I've been on the goddamn

1371
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: Luke's Peep Show twice me Back and the how Can

1372
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: I Be Downdays? But how did you feel with Luke?

1373
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: They try to parent your vis with him because you

1374
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: had to be right behind him. If they would have

1375
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: did that to you know, did that to you? You know,

1376
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: just like you said, you see me walking through smooth.

1377
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: I walked through that ship, real smooth. They never came

1378
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: nucking at my door. They w ain't they sucking get

1379
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: up boys. They were laughing and they never royal. They

1380
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: never holloed at me. I don't even make some noise

1381
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: for too short for escaping. Never I couldn't remember. They

1382
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: never like what's what's the chick name that that two

1383
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: she was? She was she was trying to shut everybody

1384
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: and never had my name on the least. They were

1385
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: talking about the ship I was doing, which if they

1386
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 1: would have passed some laws, they probably would have affected me.

1387
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know what to think about this. What

1388
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: do you think about the fact that that ship could

1389
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: have actually happened. Would if it have been like we

1390
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: lived in the country where they said you can't custom

1391
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: your rap songs have been crazy? It would have been

1392
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: like existed. We would have never assisted. I would have

1393
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: never That's how I think about it. It would have

1394
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: been like blueleg and liquor. We would have been out

1395
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: there in the streets slinging dirty raps. It would have

1396
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: been more expensive, maybe make more money it. It would

1397
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:45,919
Speaker 1: have been money that like the prohibitions straight up. Welcome

1398
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV

1399
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it

1400
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 1: at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio

1401
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: with Rapper and or DJ. Then and you Still, I

1402
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: just like to ask you this question before we wrap

1403
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: it up. Still actually love this life? I swear to

1404
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: God you see to this face. Man, you still like

1405
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: did you? You never fell in love with this life

1406
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: for I don't love Excuse me, I'm gonna tell you

1407
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: like this, man, I ain't really like to fun with

1408
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: the jail and all that. Like you. You just came

1409
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: home like I was only jail five weeks. Neiggo make

1410
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 1: some noise for you still go to jail, but you're

1411
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: still going to you Okay, you know what I didn't.

1412
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: I didn't go to jails, young nigga. I was. I was.

1413
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: You went to jails grown as man, and how I

1414
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: was your bunkies there had to be like too short

1415
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: watch out too short at Yeah, you gotta go look

1416
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: my nigga. Up the nigger that was next to me. Uh,

1417
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: he's a he's got a high profile case in l A.

1418
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: They called the grim Sleeper. That doesn't even sound right.

1419
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: It sounds dangerous. Just breakdown the grand sleep extremely like

1420
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: brother intelligent, talk to you the dangerous guy whatever. The

1421
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: guy's respectful. How to cook with just some hot water

1422
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: and ship? You know you know what I mean? We

1423
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: we wasn't. I was in with the celebrity ship though,

1424
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: where you can't at you know, Nick, Nick can't actually

1425
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: was up on you and ship right, I I was

1426
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: just chilling. But talk about that guy. Don't get up.

1427
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: He's I just gave you and and and he helped.

1428
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: He was in It was on me. He was on

1429
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: me because he was because he was high profile. Yeah, yea,

1430
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: that's where the high profile person. That's what I was

1431
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: saying that I was in the same spot sugar Knight

1432
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: was that previously for me to getting there. There was

1433
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: a room with suk Knight. Try to sign you at

1434
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: one point, should try to sign everybody. Tell me about

1435
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 1: that short before you leave from the bay too. Yeah. Yeah.

1436
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: They put me in the jail with Chris Brown. Was

1437
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: that the ship that was in that jail. It was

1438
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: just chilled jilin the TV right, Frenk and Sell, you know,

1439
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: just nobody with you. But sug Knight came to me

1440
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: like he came to everybody else. You know, I'm doing

1441
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: my own thing. I'm independent. You know, I've never I've

1442
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: never had a boss. I've never been signing nobody. And

1443
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: he just said, um, he said, the West Coast is

1444
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: he said, death Row is home to the West Coast.

1445
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm like, you know, you knew it was

1446
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: going to. He's like, he's like, man, come on over

1447
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: the death I'll get you off job. Come on, just

1448
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: said that one more time. How you said it? Come on,

1449
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: come on over the death row. He said, come on

1450
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: over to the death Rock. So you know I'm not

1451
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: a scary nigga, because I was the real nigga that

1452
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: we have no reason to be scared. And then, um,

1453
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm a smart nigga. But where's this. We're in a

1454
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: fucking nightclub in Atlanta and wait, we shore was in

1455
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: Atlanta and you was running Atlanta at that time. Because

1456
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: usually I was a factor in the city. I wasn't. Okay,

1457
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: come on over to the death roll. Yeah, and it

1458
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: wasn't me. It wasn't me. In a bully he was

1459
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: saying that ship like two niggs talking. He was like,

1460
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, actually a cool dude that he was being.

1461
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: I could see it that it was like a push

1462
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: kind of because then I actually kind of probably put

1463
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: a little weight, like you know, he didn't didn't. It

1464
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: wasn't no kind of threat, but he kind of like

1465
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: I felt a little weight. But I think it was

1466
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: like at the time he said it, so it's kind

1467
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: of pushing up on me a little bit, but in

1468
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: a friendly kind of way. And I just said, I

1469
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, I ain't trying. I ain't trying to

1470
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: wrap no more. Man, I'm starting to leg what about

1471
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: to do my labor. That's where I'm at right now.

1472
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to wrap no more. But you know,

1473
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen nineties five or some ship. It's

1474
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: because I also heard jay Z try to sign you too.

1475
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: Now that Jay never tried to sign j J just

1476
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: was I was coming to do some work with him.

1477
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that that room was false. He never

1478
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: tried to sign I probably would have probably probably would

1479
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: have went that route because just you know, just to

1480
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: be around. They respect you like a mother. Everybody respect you. Short.

1481
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: Just in case you don't know, let me let me

1482
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: just let me just tell you you are well respected,

1483
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: well connected. We love you. On the East coast to

1484
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: the West coast round man down south. You are a

1485
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: guy who laid out the platform for all of us

1486
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: to do it. You're still as cool as hell. I

1487
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: can't believe how cool you are. It was a motherfucker.

1488
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. When the interview is over, I'm

1489
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: just gonna ask you how can I be as cool

1490
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: as you? That's all I want to do, Like I

1491
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 1: want to ask you because you're the coolest guy. You're

1492
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: like how you do that? And you still love the game.

1493
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: I gotta keep asking you in different ways, like why

1494
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: would you were the guy to say selling? Man? I

1495
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: told you. I used to be in the studio with

1496
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: the o G my first studio experience with some old

1497
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: professional niggas. And these niggas had some of them, you know,

1498
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 1: was in it, some of them that came and went

1499
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: and you know that they talked about the days and

1500
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: they toured the world and it was in the band

1501
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, and the niggas said, um. One of the

1502
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: niggas was one of the members of the Dramatics. He

1503
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: was one of the niggas, but he was one of

1504
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: the niggas that got kicked out the group. And he

1505
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: experienced a few hit records and and you know, the

1506
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: nigga tour and then and then the ship left him

1507
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, he was like, dude, whatever

1508
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: you do. He was like, he said, I feel like

1509
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be somebody. He was like yeah, he was like,

1510
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: whatever you do, you make it. He said, don't forget

1511
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: to have fun. And I kind of like took that

1512
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: ship life. I just kind of like took that ship

1513
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: and kind of adapted it in my own way that Okay,

1514
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: we're going on our first tour. We you know, Niggas

1515
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: is out there deep deeper ship because it is out

1516
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: there complaining, fucking you know. I mean we we we

1517
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: love LLL but l L used to not talk to

1518
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: rappers and didn't want to be friends with you. I'm

1519
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 1: talking about I don't get worry. He was from niggas,

1520
01:18:57,720 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: Like I don't like rappers. He wouldn't hang out. I've

1521
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: been on triple of that. Hell, oh my god, he

1522
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: would have. He had a rig so that he could

1523
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: get from his dress room to the stage. You couldn't

1524
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: even he wouldn't even see him. He was different ways

1525
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: of getting there and ship. Man. But I'm just saying that.

1526
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 1: I just I was the opposite of that type of

1527
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: ship where I just was like, man, I'm about to

1528
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: go and everybody's dressing room, we're gonna smoke, We're gonna

1529
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: chop out. You know what I'm saying. I'm with everybody

1530
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: you know that's been the room about you is like

1531
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 1: tracks to do A show fifteen thousand Motherfucker's in the crowd.

1532
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: I would get off stage, and then I was on tour,

1533
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: like the first show I went on n w A,

1534
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: the one in the movie straight out. Let's break that

1535
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: down because you can't. You're saying it very non obs

1536
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: but he said, it's so too cool. He said, one

1537
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: of the listen, listen, this is this is crazy, this

1538
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: set that whole era you was on that tour. I'm

1539
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: the group that went on right before n w A.

1540
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: Easy he called me, was like, let's go to you

1541
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: seem right there. You make me forget my story down.

1542
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: He went on tour with n w WAY that that

1543
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: was your first you know. He was talking about how

1544
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: you interact with the crowd. Yeah, I'm telling I used

1545
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: to go on stage do my show Motherfucker's, and right

1546
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 1: after I get out stage, I grabbed one of the homies.

1547
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: Because you bring too many, or you bring security or something,

1548
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna cause a cause of fuss. Right after the show,

1549
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: in between my show and n w A, I would

1550
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 1: walk through the whole crowd, lights on, walk through people.

1551
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: You know, back then thinks don't have a camera phone.

1552
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: I think it wouldn't need to have a pen. I

1553
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: think you just you just would like just be like man,

1554
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, because hey, what's up? And I just to

1555
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 1: this one I pound I just want to give you.

1556
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: People would say, well your security. I like you my security.

1557
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna do something to me, like you know, you

1558
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: know Reggie m did that ship and Keith Murray man

1559
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 1: think that is security. Nothing. They just walk around any

1560
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: fucking crowd. I do the same ship. I just test

1561
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: it out that I've never no but short you was

1562
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: a like a king man of a whole coast. It's

1563
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: different and you still to this day walk around the

1564
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: same way. It's because it's the love. Man, it's the love.

1565
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: You'd be somewhere and makes a noise for the love.

1566
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: Let's makes your noise for the love. Hey, you'd be

1567
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: somewhere and somebody said, hey, man, you did you did something. Something.

1568
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: You made a song with my little brother and something something,

1569
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 1: just you made a song with my little brother. Something

1570
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: random mass rappers somewhere, niggas like nigga, all these nigs

1571
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: over here, these my niggas. You're getting here because I

1572
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: made a song with his little brother. Right, so we

1573
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: get that night. Now you've always been good, Mr Lloyd.

1574
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of well, I don't know

1575
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 1: what kind of deal you made regard but listen, I

1576
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: don't I don't care where neighborhood is. That it's the

1577
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: pay for philosophy. Man, you gotta pay you. But you

1578
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: learned a lot of ship in life. But I'm just

1579
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: talking about the knowledge. I'm talking about material things. I'm

1580
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: just talking about the knowledge. You got to give it

1581
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: to everybody who deserves it. Man, you learned a lot

1582
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: of ship. I feel like niggas could have gave me

1583
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, short cuts couldn't helped me

1584
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: when I was a young nigga. You know they didn't

1585
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: help you, So you now you want to help other people. Yeah,

1586
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: but you know if some people didn't help you, gotta

1587
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have this live and learn ship. Everybody got

1588
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: to go through their journey, but help niggas. Then this

1589
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: fact came a little bit. I think we gotta make

1590
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 1: noise for help niggas. Help niggas, help motherfucking niggas. Man, listen,

1591
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: and you know what's short. You're such a great guy, yo.

1592
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: When you was on job, I believe you called me.

1593
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I did a record with you for your album. Correct,

1594
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: I forget what's the name of the album? I forget

1595
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: that's what it has on point trying to hold on

1596
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: with my job. Wasn't that you can't funk with us?

1597
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: Who was on there with He just came on to

1598
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: care So you just like sucking with street niggers because

1599
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: how did you know the funk with me? Because I

1600
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: was a foul nigger at that time? You still I

1601
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 1: might have been I might have been plotting hum, but

1602
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: I was a foul nigger at the point. The point

1603
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: of the song was nigga nigga who are reptable in

1604
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: their own are right, that's just And it was like,

1605
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: you know because I was so I was, I was

1606
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: so honest, but I was like, do he know him?

1607
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Because you can might shoot somebody without leaving. You can't

1608
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: make a statement. You can't sunk with us if there's

1609
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: no us you have you knew man, knew what you do.

1610
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: And then Pete Poblo did the jail time like this

1611
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: is I know in North Carolina where he's from, the

1612
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: city rides with them. That's the city I have. I've

1613
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: done concerts like you know, you go to a city

1614
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: probably like I don't have two hour driving where you're from.

1615
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: I've done concerts and took them. They're all of Oakland

1616
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: with me. We show up a thousand deep and they're like, uh,

1617
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, we're all coming in, motherfucking we do They

1618
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: still do that of this day? Yeah, we did this

1619
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 1: day this day. I'm a father nigger like that. They

1620
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: asked me how many that guy be? Like four? And

1621
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: then when I show up it would be like like

1622
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: I said for I said for four hunters, like yeah,

1623
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: but too short, man. I can't thank you enough. So

1624
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: I'm coming out sitting down, you know, being a great

1625
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: sport about it. All this is about is just hip

1626
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: hop fans getting to understand and and and and hear

1627
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: these stories. But before you go, I want to say,

1628
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: how did you and eat forty? Everhead ook up because

1629
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: he's another yeah forty and because that's that's still your

1630
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: younger Homi. Yeah, I a little I got about a

1631
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 1: couple forty and his brother d Shot was in the game.

1632
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: They were treat niggas and you know, they dabbled, they

1633
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: they moved some way around. So that that's what that

1634
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 1: will mean. Learned something today. Let's makes ar something today,

1635
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 1: goddamn it. But I probably did a little more than Land.

1636
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: That was just damage, just playing. I was just trying

1637
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: to be a PC alright, ok. So um, they actually

1638
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: used to do business with my niggas who I wrote

1639
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: with to this day. My nigga niga is my niggas.

1640
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 1: They was they was Yxta's getting money together. So there's

1641
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: a thing in the bay where you kind of um,

1642
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: you know, we we're over here in Oakland, thirty miles

1643
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: over in Valetoff these Valetot niggas and these Oakland niggas

1644
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: is like, all right, we're gonna get down together. Then

1645
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: you got a city like Richmond, and yeah, so Richmond

1646
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: Nigga and Oakland nigs is like really funk with each other.

1647
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: No gangship, but it's just like we're just a little

1648
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: too wild to be friends because it never it never

1649
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: turns out good y'all too wild to be friends with us.

1650
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: We two out, so we kind of try to either

1651
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: avoid each other or it's just it's just it's just

1652
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: mani mani actions. So um. So valleto Nigga and Oakland

1653
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: nig has always been like kind of like sister city

1654
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 1: type ship. So we niggas fun with us, and E

1655
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: forty was my homie forever and ever and ever and ever.

1656
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: But we never made songs together. We just we were

1657
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: just homies. We're the same. We see each other, the clicks,

1658
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: everybody know each other, all these little brothers. I know

1659
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,560
Speaker 1: his sister, I know the whole ship. Before we have

1660
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: made a song. And we did a concert one of

1661
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: those radio stations, Summer Jams, Summer Jam, Summer Jam, and

1662
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: the niggas. Um they had, uh you ever heard the loonies. Okay,

1663
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: so the loonies had, of course, loonies, my homies, my

1664
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: young homies. They come from the cloth man, they come

1665
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: from what I'm what I'm from the trinkle Down. The

1666
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: game the niggas put out their records was my homies,

1667
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: they love flag, he said to trinkle Down that was.

1668
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I'm gonna take it.

1669
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: They come from that. So um. So the Loonies had

1670
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: this song. I was called player hater, and they say

1671
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: they was mad at me about this whole story. I

1672
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 1: can't tell you. They was mad at me on some

1673
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: on some inside ship, and they said some ship about me.

1674
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: The song. They said, that's why the town got rid

1675
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: of short And they said it a year after I

1676
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta. So they insinuated and started this little

1677
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: buzz that maybe the Loonies was like, nigga, you gotta

1678
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 1: move out of town. Nigga, you can't be in Oakland

1679
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: no more. There's some ship. So I'm in Atlanta, having

1680
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,759
Speaker 1: the time of my life, still mad as fucking this bullshit.

1681
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: So the radio station is holding what would be the

1682
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven Summer Jazz. It's one of those, one

1683
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: of those six in Atlanta and in uh In in Oakland,

1684
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: in the Bay it's it's a K one on six

1685
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: summer Jam. And I'm I'm the nigga who the radio

1686
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: station came to when they first started doing summer Jam

1687
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we need to like get some urban support.

1688
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: Can you be on the show. And I'm like, coo,

1689
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm with you. So I'm like feeling like this kind

1690
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: of the supposed to be my friends. I helped these niggas.

1691
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 1: But there's a rock station turned into an urban station,

1692
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: and they asked niggas like me, can you come and

1693
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: help us? Went over the community. So I'm like that

1694
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: should means something. And they played this record and put

1695
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: in the rotation where it said that's why the town

1696
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: got rid of short one line and yeah, and I'm like,

1697
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm like a nigga like this. I'm like, nigga, you

1698
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: don't it's not it's not it's zero disrespect. It's not

1699
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's just not. We don't walk away from

1700
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm not gonna rap about you. So, nigga,

1701
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen. So I called the radio station. I

1702
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm coming to the concert. They didn't

1703
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: want me on the show. Of course. They told me,

1704
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, I moved to Atlanta. We kind of like

1705
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: supporting the local artists and ship you moved away. So

1706
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to come to see the show.

1707
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: They gave me four sticker passes. Nigga. We rolled up

1708
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: there about sixty niggas, four niggas in, one nigga out,

1709
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: four more niggas in, one nigga out. He came up

1710
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: with three passes. Three yeah. Side. Before they realize what

1711
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 1: had happened, we sixty East Oakland niggas in the concert.

1712
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: No othensation. Were just in there, nigga, and we've been

1713
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: we're being real cool. We ain't got no problem, but

1714
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: it's sixty niggas, sixty grimey niggas, and I'm requesting ship.

1715
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, I need for y'all to walk me

1716
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: out on the stage and tell the crowd. Me and

1717
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: the Looney's gonna tell the crowd it ain't nune but loved,

1718
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and we just it just had to happen. And they

1719
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we're gonna do this and this and

1720
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: this and that, and they wouldn't do it. And I'm

1721
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: like the loonies was with it. They have the little homies.

1722
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 1: They they talked to your mouth. They walked up to

1723
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: us and they was like, man, what we gotta do whatever?

1724
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: The concert people wouldn't wouldn't let it happen. I'm like,

1725
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: we gotta kill this motherucking ship. Ain't nobody tell him

1726
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: what The Loonies is my enemies and we've running away

1727
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: and we're gonna just walk out and just say it's

1728
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: just love. That's all I wanted to tell the people.

1729
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: And it was like, no, I wouldn't do it. So

1730
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: we we said that let me let us how the manager,

1731
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: the manager nigga, my nigga sees my nigga is my homie,

1732
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: and we went in this back room were supposed to

1733
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: be hollering, and one of the concert promoters, we're back there,

1734
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: and then the ship get out of hand. Thinks lumped

1735
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: up the Looney's manager a little bit, and we didn't

1736
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: know this is what was going through. So then they

1737
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 1: got lumped up and curled all up and ship and

1738
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 1: all this ship and it wasn't even really asked for.

1739
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 1: It was just like a blue blue blue Mr bullshit.

1740
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: So we walked out. Now we got the mob. The

1741
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: mob is not satisfied. They like kind of hungry. And

1742
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: then we walked through the crowd and we're just like,

1743
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: we're not doing nothing to nobody, but we're just not

1744
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: happy and we're kind of moving around. And then just

1745
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,759
Speaker 1: we went and we went and took a little section

1746
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: and then you know, you could make niggas like to

1747
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: take their ship. We took a little section. We're gonna

1748
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: watch the next act. Somebody come on the scene. And

1749
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: then everybody that was just the powers that be just

1750
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw. They just didn't like it

1751
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 1: that they just it was just nervousness, and they canceled

1752
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: the show. They canceled. Like the last two acts they canceled.

1753
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: It must have been like the Isley Brothers and E

1754
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: forty forty was headlining, had never met was home. We

1755
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: was home and they canceled the show. E forty has

1756
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: spent like maybe like you know, a lot of grip

1757
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: on some special show he was gonna do with the

1758
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: big show of the summer, and they canceled him. And

1759
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: they went and totally, nigger, we canceled you because it's

1760
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: too short. Mind you weren't We wasn't fighting, We wasn't mobby,

1761
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: weren't people. We just we just kind of like did

1762
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: the little thing in the back back area and left

1763
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: watching the show. But they're nervous that they couldn't control

1764
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: this ship. But you guys had not met E forty

1765
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: prior to wrap. I knew forty before we was wrapped.

1766
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I know why. We early days, the early days, we

1767
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: was just like what's up. Like it wasn't back in

1768
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 1: the day, niggas didn't wrapped together exactly. It's like a

1769
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: record with you weren't That wasn't even an idea. We

1770
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: just was what's up and we hang out whatever. We

1771
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: was tied a little bit with his little brother. That's

1772
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: my niggat, my niggas. No these shots for the click,

1773
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 1: they was in the click. So Monday morning comes the

1774
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: radio station. The show was probably like Saturday or Sunday.

1775
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: Monday morning comes the radio station does a fake caller

1776
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: pretended to be too short, and the nigga calls up.

1777
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like, nig nigga, niggas didn't want to let me

1778
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: on stage. Nigga, I don't given it was forty one

1779
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: house and short, don't get on stay no way. The

1780
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: niggas calling talking ship on the morning show phone start

1781
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: this way was probably going by then, Okay, cool, and

1782
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: they're doing this joke. But at the same time, it's

1783
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: a bit down there. That's the program director or something.

1784
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: This bitch is sending out factors and emails saying too

1785
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: short is violent Bannon nigga from Wrap and don't ever

1786
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: play his music, all kinds of ships. So I'm like

1787
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: trying to blackball. So I'm like, I'm taking this ship personal.

1788
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Then then the fucking phone rings. I don't even know

1789
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: the ship was on the air. I don't even know.

1790
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: E forty called me. He was like, Nigga, was you

1791
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: on the radio? This morning. I'm like, no, nigga. He's like, Nigga,

1792
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 1: you didn't do to say such something. I'm like no, man.

1793
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: So the niggas like we stand up niggas. Nigga said,

1794
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: so you're telling me you didn't all the radio sing

1795
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 1: and say, I said, Nigga, I don't know. He said, okay,

1796
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: and then he started spending the game to theft. He's

1797
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: a real game, that nigga. So he started spending like

1798
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: the radio stations trying to play games with us, blah blah,

1799
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: this and that. He's like, man, these folks, you know,

1800
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: we start talking about how much money he spent on

1801
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: his set. They didn't get into the show, and they

1802
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: personally told him it's too short fall. He was like, man,

1803
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 1: we're not finn turnus in the name because we know

1804
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: who we are. Your niggas mind niggas. We know we're

1805
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. He said, let's get in the

1806
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: studio and make some music. We made a song called

1807
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 1: rappers Ball, and it's like it was like a big

1808
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 1: record for that's the first record we ever made, and

1809
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: big city, big record for the Bay. Yeah, it was.

1810
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: It was huge and it went everywhere and and basically

1811
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: the ship of of of you know, corporate type structure

1812
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's in the office room. Trying to play some

1813
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: real niggas against each other kind of made us tighter

1814
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: than we've ever been, and we kind of we were

1815
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: we were cool as fun. But after that, we made

1816
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: record after record after record. We started talking on the

1817
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: phone every other day. Were kind of like walking each

1818
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: other through each other's albums and ship. Niggers don't know,

1819
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: we was on drive and we never really dropped in

1820
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 1: the same quarter. So we would be like both we'd

1821
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: be critiquing each other's albums while we're making them. I'm like, yeah,

1822
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 1: you're feeling hit him hard and hell yeah, like and

1823
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: then I'm listening to him going, shoot, I gotta get

1824
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 1: there and go hard because about to knock me off,

1825
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you know. So we kind of being friends and competitors,

1826
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: we kind of held each other down on keeping it

1827
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: keeping that ship hardcore, Like like wow, real, So before

1828
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: we get up out of here, was you in the

1829
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: session with Big when you made the record? When the

1830
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: Rimmys in my system, ain't no telling that I was

1831
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: in the room. I was in the room, and it

1832
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: was in the room. Yeah, that's when the legs was hurting.

1833
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Should he be sitting down and wrapping and ship? Hell? Yeah?

1834
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: And then how about with Jay did y'all sitting up session?

1835
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: I did that session with Jay. It was all good.

1836
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: Just a week ago I did that ship Um, I

1837
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: did the other song I re member. I was on Uh,

1838
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: real niggas do real things, all all the words. I

1839
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 1: was on that show. He really wanted Scarface on that song.

1840
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: And and back then the niggas, Uh, it was that

1841
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: ship where the niggas just love Tupacs so much. It

1842
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 1: was like you g K and Nick. Certain thing is

1843
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: they love Tupacs so much. They're like, man, I ain't

1844
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: work with nobody from New York. I just it was

1845
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: just it was, let me stop you right there. We

1846
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: love short New York. He's trying to be humble right now.

1847
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: He humble, But look, I used to be tellings like this. Man.

1848
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: I talked to the niggas car phase all the real talk.

1849
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I'm like, nigga, go to New York.

1850
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna take your career to a new level. Them

1851
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: niggas funk with you, and we didn't, we didn't know.

1852
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Somebody had to tell you. I say, pass it on,

1853
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know, nig i'me on the elevator and then

1854
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: Nigga bell hoops saying, I ain't never heard of you, man,

1855
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: why why you got on jury? Like? Who was you said?

1856
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: I'm too short? And now I saw the million records.

1857
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: And then the bell have the building, I mean Hotel

1858
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: New York and they're like, no, you didn't wow never

1859
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: I never heard you saw the big records. So this

1860
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: is a crazy ship. Is you know what what side

1861
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: of you telling? Because we always felt like, you know,

1862
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: we showed y'all love. And I told the bell man

1863
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 1: Nigga got two shows. A big daddy came that. Nigga said,

1864
01:35:54,640 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: now I know you're like and you did do shows? Yeah, shows, okay, crazy, Wow,

1865
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: this markey is my nigga. Man, that's my my homie,

1866
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 1: like talking a lot of my fuckers, Jam James, my nigga.

1867
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: That's my nigga, Like, yeah, that's crazy. Way back when

1868
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: it was God bless him, God bless him. Your two

1869
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: show got the craziest stories. Man, we just make let's

1870
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: make some noise for two children man coming out, hang

1871
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: it out. I was there, you were there. I told you.

1872
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: I just turned fifty, nigg I know some ship kres

1873
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: One told us he turned fifty and he put on

1874
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: a Peak card. You got a car, and see what

1875
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: kind of Let me let me see what kind of

1876
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 1: call you guys, Let me see you kind of You know,

1877
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: we need sunny here, we're sunny ye cannabis car. Goddamnit,

1878
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: Look at that. Look at that. Let's make some noise too.

1879
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Shot up being a super smoker. I shouldn't shure. This

1880
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: is little. I can't thank you so much. Man, Listen,

1881
01:36:56,080 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: I could never repay you for this because I don't know. Um,

1882
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: if people understand what this is. There's people from the

1883
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 1: Bay Area, there's people from South Central, there's people from

1884
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 1: New York. They all want to know your story. And

1885
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: right now, I mean in the hip hop way when

1886
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: I say they know your story. But in the hip

1887
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: hop way, we're not journalists. We don't google ship. We

1888
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: sit there conversation. I'm gonna be honest, I don't know

1889
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 1: the Google, but I do really get the point site

1890
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: just figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it.

1891
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: But and and we sit here with hip hop legend.

1892
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 1: We had carerest one sitting right there. This is it's correct.

1893
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: The right there carocon is right there. And once some

1894
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: more drive records. He was on drive. We got Q

1895
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: tip that's coming to the drive records. So I'm bringing

1896
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 1: it up dog rest in peace, the five girl and Um,

1897
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough, my brother. I really appreciate this.

1898
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 1: I was so excited. My brother d j F and

1899
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: told me. He said, yo, man, you know what I'm saying.

1900
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: Two shoulders coming. And I don't know if you felt

1901
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: it when he was on the phone, but I kept

1902
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: going like this heard it? Where did that come from? Short?

1903
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: Because every time I hear your name, I keep popping

1904
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: my collar. Is that cool? Yeah? That's a that's that's

1905
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: that's a gesture. That's a gesture. So you like every

1906
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 1: time if we're not look if I'm in UM, like

1907
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: if I'm in like Tucson, Arizona and they say you

1908
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:29,400
Speaker 1: wanted too short, um, Ribs or the US like this,

1909
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you're good, I'm good. I'm good to wear suits

1910
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:35,839
Speaker 1: and ship. Man, they really used to pop their collars,

1911
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 1: so they they had collars you don't have. I didn't

1912
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 1: know where the popping collar came from. So you had

1913
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: these certain characters that they the whole time they're talking

1914
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 1: to you, like they get so clean, just like you know, man,

1915
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 1: when I was doing this, just like this is not

1916
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 1: just and they just popping and it's just like what

1917
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: kind of style you got, Like they got ordered and

1918
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: they talked like that the whole time they're talking to you,

1919
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: when they getting terriorted or after they tell why the

1920
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: niggative walk up talking to you. Niggas talking past like

1921
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: my nigga, my nigga, you know you me short? Get

1922
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: me right? Am I doing the correct when I'm doing it?

1923
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: A popular color? You got the one hand pop together.

1924
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Let me look at you, let me see you do it.

1925
01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 1: You really got to be wearing a college shirt though

1926
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: you gotta pop your collar. You call it man, you

1927
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: man short. Let me tell you something that I told you.

1928
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: I come from a different cloth and thing is what

1929
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: I come from. The finesse niggas who don't know you

1930
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:34,040
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to do a lot of exterior because

1931
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: you're sitting there quietly. You told a bit what to

1932
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: do and you're just sitting there. Point you don't. You

1933
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 1: don't have to brag on it, you feel me? Yeah,

1934
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 1: So it's it's I had married those kind of cats.

1935
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: I took on that that style of just not but

1936
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 1: do they pop they call you kind of don't you

1937
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 1: don't do the loud, you don't rhyme, you don't rhyme,

1938
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: you don't dress too loud. You just kind of like

1939
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 1: you run that game and you so short. If I

1940
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: could be a temporary pen before, like one day, could

1941
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: you coach me? I've been telling you all day, I think,

1942
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:10,440
Speaker 1: said Anthony. You know I'll keep you all to telling

1943
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: out on man. When the bitch chose me, I didn't

1944
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 1: know what to do after that. I was like, oh, ship,

1945
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: but does the chick ever pimp the dude the jiggerlo

1946
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 1: that happen? You will never become a boss pimp unless

1947
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: a bit turns you out first. You can think anything

1948
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: you want. But she got confused. I'm Mary, Let's go

1949
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 1: like this. You never pimp the hole before, and you're

1950
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna and you're gonna turn the misch out for the

1951
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: first time. So she just getting turned down. You just

1952
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,759
Speaker 1: getting turned out? Y'all. Huh, what y'all gonna do together?

1953
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Who never held the pimp? Who never pimp? Somebody got

1954
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: to get you that game. You got to go get

1955
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: your feet with the best time. Let's make some those

1956
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: to be in school. That is really thick. That is

1957
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,560
Speaker 1: really the best time you ever gonna get. This is

1958
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 1: the first you gone. You might get a little junior house.

1959
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 1: She'd like, I do it for you. She might be

1960
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: around junior fuming around the So you're gonna knock another

1961
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,760
Speaker 1: You're the new young pimp. You're the new young pamp.

1962
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna knock an another niggas bit you've been getting it.

1963
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: She coming over. You're like this, bitch I've been having.

1964
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: Ain't never hold like this. You got a super hole

1965
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: down and you're like, oh ship when once you got

1966
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: a super hoo and you adapt, you can't go read

1967
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: some of these books. Man, You and you sit there

1968
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: and you you ain't never letting her know that you

1969
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: can't hang with her. But you're pimping your way into it.

1970
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: The next hole you get, you're gonna be harder and

1971
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: harder and harder. Like you know, you learn some ship

1972
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: from that super how you learn That's why you know

1973
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: those teaching to dude when you had the junior home

1974
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 1: and he was like, she bring me a little something.

1975
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: Now you got a super hool, you like every hole

1976
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: after that, you like, do you fucking know what how

1977
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 1: it is? That's why he gave me a famous player card.

1978
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to give it back. I said, you guys

1979
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: are complicated. This is very complicated. But your lifestyle is

1980
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: very hard style. But the famous player card is not

1981
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: a famous pimp card. It's just for the players, man,

1982
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: because they all know it's a difference. They all know.

1983
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Don't really be out there trying to pimp house and ship.

1984
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I never sadn't you should just prom this

1985
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: same polder still come. Guess what happens when you're too short.

1986
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at the club in Las Vegas, hanging

1987
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: with my folks at the table. The bitch walks up

1988
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: to me and hands me like eighteen hunter and said

1989
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,600
Speaker 1: you're the reason why I'm hoping and walked away. She

1990
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: didn't tell her motherfucker name. I didn't even see what

1991
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: she gave me, so she was out of sight, and look,

1992
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, nigger, bit, just walk me through the

1993
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: hand to be this, And then what did you do

1994
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: the seventeen hunter? Let's keep it rare. We bought that.

1995
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: We're just we're spending. We came back to keeping it

1996
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: getting back to the man. She never introduced her name.

1997
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what her Facebook. I couldn't never

1998
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: tell you. I don't even know. I don't know. Let

1999
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: me tell yourself. We got the legend too short in here.

2000
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna she paid it back to the game, not

2001
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: trying to pimp into the pyman came to me, wants

2002
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 1: to pivocating to me, I know what to do with

2003
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: the off and then pivoting like, you give me your bit,

2004
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: don't do you? I say, not anybody. It's enough not

2005
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 1: to know to give them my bitch, anybody that's listening.

2006
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: So I gave it a bit to like, I gave

2007
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: it a bit to like, um, like to see or something.

2008
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: And then I'm sorry, anybody that's listening, just remember this.

2009
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 1: Don't don't listen to ship about some pimp rules and

2010
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 1: ship and yeah, I think you're gonna wake up and

2011
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: trying to be a pimp. It's not something that you do.

2012
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: It's not something that you adapt the lifestyle. You know,

2013
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 1: just like anything you do, you become an expert. You know,

2014
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's in you. It's in you, ye right now.

2015
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I love the art of it. But it's not in me.

2016
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't have the pimp powers passion that you see

2017
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: me for hip hop the music in the last show,

2018
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: and I don't have that passion for pimping. But you

2019
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: had the passion more for hip hop than pimper. I

2020
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: love the art of the pimp game. It's a beautiful thing.

2021
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:02,719
Speaker 1: If you you know what is the best profession after pimping,

2022
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: if you've been a pimp? Rapping? No? Hell no, what

2023
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, thank you? That's what most pimps they start. Yeah. Preachers, Yeah, yeah,

2024
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: you got You got to listen to the level of

2025
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 1: hustlings being as owning the church. That's the last level

2026
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: of I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing at Christianity. I'm

2027
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: laughing that preacher listening us last hustle is being a preacher.

2028
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that the preacher's pimping his congregation.

2029
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: Who gives a fuck? That's the last level of I

2030
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 1: got that. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you another way. Now,

2031
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: Let's say, throughout your life, the way you learned how

2032
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: to be a pimp was that you figured I have

2033
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: the gift the gap. You told that to yourself. The

2034
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,759
Speaker 1: gift to Gap is your main weapon, and pimping, unless

2035
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: you're grill with him, sounds like is the punch of

2036
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: facing the big as you as you stare in the

2037
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 1: ugly face of pimping you see a fucking hole die

2038
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: on the job or some ship murdered or junkie hole overdose,

2039
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: is just the bitch life get sucked off and she

2040
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: ended up in prison you never see again, like you know,

2041
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 1: just the the ugly side of the ship, the ship

2042
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: that the ship that sucks you up in the head

2043
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 1: because you've seen how you took this little innocent girl

2044
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: who was a waitress, and you see what she ended

2045
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 1: up being, and you're like, damn, how am I in

2046
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the eyes of God if I did this to her?

2047
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 1: And you start feeling like a sucking monster, like it

2048
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: ain't for everybody in the long run. So what do

2049
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: you do? You you fucking step to the light and

2050
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: you go to the church and you start really realizing

2051
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: that damn, I've been walking the wrong path. And then

2052
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: you end up being a fucking preacher later. But the

2053
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: main thing is why are you a good preacher? Because

2054
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 1: from day one you had to give the gap. It

2055
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: ain't like if if a pimp turn preacher, he's not

2056
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: he's not being wicked, or he's not. He might just

2057
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 1: really had went that path where he looked at that

2058
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 1: ugly ship and he went the other way. Some of

2059
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 1: them might be wicked. Yeah, it might be, but I'm

2060
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 1: just saying that this money, I don't want to be

2061
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: just a ship where it real ship, though that ship

2062
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: gets uggly. I I know a church boy right now

2063
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: that pimped his ass off. And the only reason he's

2064
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: a church boy because it's because when he saw Pivin

2065
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: fucked him up. Let's make some noise for the ship

2066
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: that sucked him up. Yo, yo, just want to followed

2067
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 1: just claiming on this up. I'm not gonna lie. If

2068
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: you listen to two shorts, you get pimp tomorrow. Just listen.

2069
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,719
Speaker 1: I funked up when the like listen, it's a horrible

2070
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: pimple Like I went and I said, you gotta choose

2071
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: to lose, said I chose, she chose me. I was like, oh, ship,

2072
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: what did I do from here? What do I do

2073
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: from here? And I was fucked up? Pimp juju pim

2074
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: mckinn uh, but you're done. They was all trying to not.

2075
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: I was holding it down because I was like, they

2076
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: can't not my bis because I see I've seen the documentaries.

2077
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not going to knock my bitch.

2078
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:13,879
Speaker 1: But as soon as I left, I just left alone

2079
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 1: and that was it, so I knew I can. There's

2080
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: two things you gotta do to establish You have to

2081
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: you have to get a choosing feet, and you have

2082
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 1: to at least send me a choosing feet. And what

2083
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: is that? That's when she paid you to be with you,

2084
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me soon as she chose me,

2085
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 1: I said, I said, bitch at pay a lot of

2086
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,759
Speaker 1: PIM said the bar kind kind of kind of steep

2087
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: if you asked me, I don't know. They're like, you know,

2088
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 1: it's like five ten racks. I heard five X. I

2089
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: could have got. I could have got if you could

2090
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: have got a sign the short start to see your phone, man,

2091
01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: want to change numbers. I was playing the wrong game

2092
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah you're sure. Thank you so

2093
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: much for being a great sport and going down here

2094
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: having us. Man look a little I'm just saying, it

2095
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: look like I had Carroson right there. It looked like

2096
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 1: you're drinking on my tie. It's not it looks like Yo, sure,

2097
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much, my brother. Easy on the pimping, y'all,

2098
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: easy on the No, you're gonna responsibility like I want to.

2099
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pimp. I'm gonna pimp, like pip your dogs

2100
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: first before you go up. After that, I'm gonna I'm

2101
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna pimp like in my mind. I'm gonna have Short

2102
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,560
Speaker 1: run me through it in my mind and then maybe no,

2103
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna try. I'm never gonna try. But at

2104
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: least at least Short taught me tak you Short, man.

2105
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Man. Every time my person say bitch,

2106
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Before we get out of her word,

2107
01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: I showed you. I had a rap partner, Freddie b.

2108
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: So we tried to do everything that the streets do,

2109
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 1: and the streets was doing a lot of drugs. So

2110
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 1: we used to do these little skits before the songs

2111
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 1: are just like either acting like gangsters or just slick

2112
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 1: talking things. And one of the skids we used to

2113
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 1: do was, uh was about to say this chick um

2114
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: she was a be So we pretended like like we're

2115
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 1: smoking crack cocaine. But wait, wait, but this was not

2116
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 1: crack back but the crack cocaine at one point that

2117
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 1: was not crack. We sprinkled a little bit in the joints.

2118
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: But now we're not gonna hit the point you did

2119
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: hit the huge Did that should tastes good? It was?

2120
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Don't let it take you down. But

2121
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 1: look at that stuff so dirties back then, it wasn't

2122
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 1: When we was wrapping it the early eighties, it wasn't crack.

2123
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,600
Speaker 1: It was called freebasing, and it was only it was

2124
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: only fly people did that. He was if he was

2125
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: showing off rich, motherfucking you free base. That was the

2126
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 1: ship that burned rich and that that was that was

2127
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: in the pipe, or that was that It was the

2128
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 1: same thing. It was the same thing as a crackhead.

2129
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 1: It was smoking the pipe. But when it first came out,

2130
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: it came out as an elegant thing that only rich

2131
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: people did. Hey we're about to go smoke. It was like,

2132
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: this is the upgrade from cocaine rich people. Free basing

2133
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 1: was something that people openly said, we're freebasing, but cracking

2134
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: something when you turn to a crackhead. That was the

2135
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: same fucking ship. But it just had a different, different

2136
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: time and era. So we used to mimic Freemason. So

2137
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: we would sit there and be like, you know, the

2138
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: bitchry like hit, I hit this baby, like you know

2139
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: the tape is about to come on, the music coming on.

2140
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: We're doing the skip for it. Come on like this,

2141
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: hit and hit and say like I wannafuck choking ship

2142
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: and then uh, like, bitch, you're hitting, you're smoking too much.

2143
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 1: And then uh and then my man like somebody being

2144
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: there doing the girls waste or whatever, and then and

2145
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: then it shouldn't be like like like bits like that's

2146
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: where the god we did that skits for crack making

2147
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: making up the bed, crack, cocaine gets something world get

2148
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: so many times that the bitch just keep getting longer

2149
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: and longer and longer until it was just like bit

2150
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,759
Speaker 1: and is that your favorite word? It really is my favorite.

2151
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: Look at this, they're got a rude awaken it up,

2152
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't looked at some old dollar miite movies

2153
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: wait for you, but you're doing a hip hop. You

2154
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: are the You're the king, the first pamper hip hop.

2155
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: You're the first person that made us proud to be

2156
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 1: who you are will you want to be? We want

2157
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: to salute you, too short. Let's still say that we

2158
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 1: love you. We want to say that we want to

2159
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 1: keep continue, and you look the same. You ain't aging.

2160
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: We are saluting you, my brother. You know a great guy.

2161
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: We love you. Drink champs, love you definitely, and we're

2162
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 1: gonna root some champagne. I've been drinking you hard. Look,

2163
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 1: I know you're a parent. You know this podcast. We

2164
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: don't keep it going. I'm never alright, always almost almost

2165
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: get into this night like man, too short, thank you

2166
01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: for coming to drink chaps. I'm sorry, I don't know.

2167
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: I just keep coughing for no. Thank you too, sure,

2168
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 1: ain't stop coughing. Hit the way again. It's like your

2169
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 1: TV shop yesterday. What happened on my TV show yesterday?

2170
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: Oh yo? We had scared faces, faces like I'm in Miami, nigga.

2171
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we just we just got off the cruise.

2172
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 1: Face bluke. We was all on this cruise. Hi five

2173
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 1: five Yo'll take you so much, stain