1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: What is up, guys, Welcome back to Post Friend High. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: I am so excited for today's episode because we're here 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: with Troy and Bellisario aka to my twelve to thirteen 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: year old self, Spencer Hastings from Pretty Little Liars. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm just so excited to be sitting down with you today. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be talking to you too. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: We're currently in Troyan's house. We're in her beautiful living room, 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: and last night, as I was prepping for this interview, 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: I stumbled upon your architectural digest. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god video. Thank you. It's very cozy as 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: you can see, and I really appreciate you guys making 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: the trip. 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: How was the walk for you? 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: It was great. We had a lot. 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: You know, you were kind enough to let me bring 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 4: bea my dog. She had some moments, she found a friend, 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: they had a moment, But it was a great walk. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: I love I love walking in La. I mean, you 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: know there's a song like nobody walks in La but 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: I do. 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: No, it's so nice and it's so nice being in 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: a sidewalk community where you can. I loved finding out 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: on our walk that you are an avid runner. Yes, 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: when did you get into running, and how did you 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: get into. 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Running growing up? 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: It was just like my father would go out and 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: go in these like epically long runs. When we lived 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: in New York. He would run all the way around 31 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 4: Central Park. He was the one who started me running 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: because my dad would go out. We grew up in 33 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: Laurel Canyon and particularly Friman, and so there's this really 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: wonderful park, Fryman Canyon, and there's this great running trail 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: and my dad would go out and run it every morning. 36 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: When I wanted to be with my dad, I had 37 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 4: to start running. So I remember being like, I can run, 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: I can keep up with you dad, who's been like 39 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: a lifetime runner. And then I it just became like 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 4: a lifelong habit. 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: And I know your dad was. Was he a director 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: and producer, director and producer writer. Yeah, it's stressful, right, 43 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: So it's nice to have like an activity like going 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: for a run to keep you grounded totally. 45 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: And it's cool when. 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: There's a parent in your life that sets that example 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: of like working out is not only good for the 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: body to make you feel good, but good for like 49 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the mental you know totally. 50 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he really set that for me. Which was like 51 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: he had something to stew over. He went out for 52 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: a run or like a really long walk with our dogs. 53 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: And so that's definitely something that I've taken over and 54 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: my poor girls because I do that same thing where 55 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: you know, it's like the weekend and we haven't been 56 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: out of the house and I'm like, we're going for 57 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: a walk with bea and they're like, oh, but hopefully 58 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: it'll take it, and it. 59 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 2: Will, it will. 60 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I grew up with parents that were also super fit 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: and active, and it wasn't the focal point of our life. 62 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: It was just kind of like a part of our lifestyle, 63 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: and it was it was always ingrained in me, which 64 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: is probably why I I'll have a running interview show. 65 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: But did you play sports growing up? 66 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: I did, but I was like sports agnostic. I didn't 67 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: have a sport that I really gravitated to. I was 68 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: just like I'd try anything once. I played everything. I 69 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: was even on my middle school football team. I was 70 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: the only girl on the football team. And then it 71 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: kind of was a bit of a bummer because when 72 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 4: we got into high school, obviously it was tackle football, 73 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: so they were like, we're not putting a girl on 74 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: the team. So then my mom was like, why don't 75 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: you try out for cheerleading, which was really fun and 76 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: I loved I'm a dancer too, so I love the dances, 77 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: but I could not get behind the cheers because I 78 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: was like, if I'm not out there playing, I don't 79 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: want to just yell at the people who are. But 80 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: I love sports, dance, running, all of it. 81 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: What about you? 82 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I played sports growing up, same thing, like so many 83 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: different sports, I definitely took to on the East Coast, 84 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: lacrosse is really big. 85 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: I am hugely interested in lacrosse. 86 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: Really yes, well, because it was it was sort of 87 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: let go of in the early parts of the show, 88 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: but originally Spencer Hastings was a lacrosse player, and so 89 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: in like the first episodes, I had a lacrosse coach 90 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: and I was like. 91 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: Doing practice on you know. 92 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: And then slowly our lives got taken over by being stocked, 93 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: and I guess the girls didn't have time for extracurricular activities. 94 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: But it was one of those hilarious moments where they 95 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: were like, do you have any experience with lacrosse? And 96 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm a West Coast kid, like 97 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: I have no idea what you're talking about. 98 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Right now, I have to learn how to like thro 99 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: and catch and pick up ground balls for the show. 100 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: Totally. Yeah, I love that. 101 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Was there one actor in the show that was a swimmer. 102 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: Or Emily Emily Shae Shane Mitchell was a swimmer and 103 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: Shae is also an incredibly athletic person, and so she Yeah, 104 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 5: I remember we had to do some she would swim, 105 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: she would train, and. 106 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: Then we had like one episode where we all went 107 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: out to like a swim meet of hers. It was 108 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: it was really cool to get to watch her because 109 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: she'd been like training for a while and like getting 110 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: the form down, so it was it was awesome. It's 111 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: like you're cheering on your friend in front of and 112 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: behind the camera. 113 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 2: Was acting more. 114 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: The focal point in your teens and then when you 115 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: got to college, when did you kind of start prioritizing 116 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: acting and saying to yourself, Okay, this is what I 117 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: want to do. 118 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: So because I grew up, I was fortunate enough to 119 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: grow up in the industry. Both my parents are writer, producers, directors. 120 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: I was on a lot of sets and it was 121 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 4: kind of just the family business, but it was also 122 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 4: to me. 123 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's a business. 124 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: Know, if I want to be involved in acting as 125 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: a you know, as a hobby, I need to get 126 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: into theater. I need to you know, do acting classes. 127 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: So I really wanted to do that, but my parents 128 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: also were very into me preparing for what if you 129 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: don't want to go into this, Like you need to 130 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: be well rounded. So my academic career, you know, all 131 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: the way through high school was very very focused on 132 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: classes and studying, and then when I got to school college, 133 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 4: my parents were like, we don't care what you study, 134 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: but you have to go to college. And I was like, cool, 135 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: kind of study acting finally, and they were like, yeah, okay. 136 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: So then, like you said, college became totally theater. 137 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: I felt like I'd been waiting my whole life to 138 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: do that, and so it was really wonderful to just 139 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: be in a course that was totally you know, conservatory 140 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 4: style training and I was just doing plays all day long. 141 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: It is so cool to grow up with with parents 142 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: in the industry and then take kind of after them, 143 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: because I feel like it's not always that kids will 144 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: take after their parents that are in the industry. So 145 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: it's cool knowing that you were like no, I actually 146 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: really like this acting thing, and yeah, let's give it 147 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: a go. What was the audition process like when you 148 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: auditioned for Pretty Little Liars? 149 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: So I had just graduated college, and like I said, 150 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: television to me was kind of my parents' space. And 151 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 4: as I had described it to them, you know, they 152 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: were incredibly supportive from the jump, but they were also like, look, 153 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: when you come to our sets, you're seeing the point 154 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: zero one percent of actors who are on here. It 155 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with talent. It is right time, 156 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: right place, and you've got talent and you're right for 157 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 4: the role. 158 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Like it's everything. 159 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: So I thought of theater as my space that I 160 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: could carve out. So my plan was to move to 161 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: New York because I grew up in LA So I 162 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: was like, okay, cool, So after college, I'm going to 163 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: go do theater in New York and like TV will 164 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 4: be over here. 165 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: So I thought I was going to move to New 166 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: York to do theater. 167 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: And while I was on my first job in LA 168 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: doing theater, it was pilot season, which is something that 169 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: we don't have anymore. Really, my boyfriend at the time, 170 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: who's from New York, was like, let's just do one 171 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: pilot season, like, so we have the experience before we go. 172 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: To New York. 173 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: So my first audition of my first pilot season was 174 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: for Spencer Hastings. 175 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so you auditioned for Spencer. 176 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 177 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: I did not have any other auditions, and so I 178 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 4: was like, I went in and I went into the 179 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: audition being like, they're never I'm not the girl for 180 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: this cause I knew from the little bit that I 181 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: knew about the books. I knew Spencer was the all 182 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: American girl in the books. She's blonde haired, blue eyed, 183 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: she's the lacrosse player, she's the you know, the valedictorian. 184 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: So I connected a lot to her as far as 185 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: like sports academics, perfectionist. But I was like, I'm not 186 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: what the books say. So I just went in and 187 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: I did my take on it. And Marlene has very 188 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: famously told me that when I walked into the room, she. 189 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Was like, I completely wrote you off. You were totally wrong. 190 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: And then you did the scene and I thought that's Spencer. Wow, 191 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: it was so bizarre. 192 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: She was just like, Oh, that's wild that I just 193 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: completely thought this person is totally wrong. 194 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: And then you came in and it was just like, 195 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: in my mind, you were Spencer. 196 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: So I then you know, went to the callback and 197 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: went then you do the test and you do the 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: network test, and it's like so many different things. But again, 199 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: it was always under the guise of like, I'm not 200 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: this girl. I'm not like the I didn't think I 201 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: was TV. I thought I was just like, that's my parents' world. 202 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be in it. I'm going to 203 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: go to New York. And then I remember getting the 204 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: call and they were like, you're you got the role, 205 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 4: and I said, no, that's a mistake. 206 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Wait. 207 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I literally have chills because it's because I was going 208 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: to ask you when you first got the part, did 209 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: you see yourself in the role, And it's no. It's 210 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: knowing though that some of her characteristics, Spencer's characteristics you 211 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: did see. Yeah, I didn't realize that in the books 212 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: she was a blonde and you know. 213 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I like, it's funny because when we were 214 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 4: shooting the pilot, I was looking you know, we didn't 215 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: have like social media really back then, but there were 216 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: online comment boards, and the comment boards were insane because 217 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: everybody was just like, you cast this girl speaking about me. 218 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: They were like, she's so wrong, she can't be Spencer. Actually, 219 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 4: Hannah's character was brown hair, it was brown eyes. Yeah, 220 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: so they were like, Ashley Benson's wrong, you gotta switch them. 221 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 4: And it was like really brutal and kind of affirming 222 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: everything that I already thought, which was like, somehow these 223 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: people who are making this show have made a horrible mistake, 224 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: and like, after I do this job, they're gonna see 225 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: And they were nothing but supportive and they the whole time. 226 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: And then now it's funny because it's to the point 227 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: where now people are like, what do you mean Spencer 228 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: had blonde hair and blue wies, Like what, that's so weird? 229 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: So it is. It's wild how stuff can change. 230 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And I feel like that is so hard 231 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: because coming off of an iconic book series, yeah, book fandom, 232 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: when you are transforming anything into a movie or a show, 233 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: they do go so hard. And you know, with the 234 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: casting and who's picked and all of that, how did 235 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: you deal with that going into filming the first season? 236 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: It still kind of felt like a weird experiment. The 237 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: first season. 238 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: I remember we were doing the show and we were 239 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: shooting it, and we were all together and we were 240 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: getting closer and closer, you know, the girls and the 241 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 4: writers and and and you know, all of the incredible 242 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 4: like our cast mates. And then the show came out 243 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: and we were just kind of locked away on us 244 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: studio stage in Burbank. And I remember the first time 245 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 4: I was in Canada with my husband and we were 246 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: at like a bulk grocery store and I was like 247 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: putting almonds in a bag and I looked up and 248 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: this girl was like staring at me. And I had 249 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: never been recognized before ever in my life, and so 250 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: I was like. 251 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: I must be doing something bad to the almonds, Like 252 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: did I sneeze on them? Am I dirty? Why is 253 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: she staring at me? 254 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 4: And she was just like your spencer, And I was like, 255 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, what are you talking about? Like it 256 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: didn't track, and I was like, oh my god, maybe 257 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: this is being watched by people. Like again, it just 258 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: didn't track. I was like, what do you mean you've 259 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 4: seen the show? Like this is actually a thing. 260 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: It turned into this massive, iconic show that has spanned generations. Now, 261 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's so cool seeing like this new wave 262 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: of people that are just getting introduced to pretty. 263 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: Little liary fun When you were filming. 264 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Was there a gut feeling kind of amongst the girls 265 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: that you were like, wait, this actually might be something. 266 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: It was funny because it was like everybody kept on 267 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: telling that to us. You know again, like I said, 268 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: we were just on these stages. We were doing our 269 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: work and becoming friends. But every step of the way 270 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: it was incredibly easy. It was one of those things 271 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: where it was like we shot the pilot not knowing 272 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: if we were going to get picked up, and then 273 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: all of a sudden it was like, you're getting picked up. 274 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: You're doing a first season. 275 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 4: And then when we were like a couple of episodes 276 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: into the first season, or maybe it was a little 277 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: bit more when the show came out, they were like, 278 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: you're getting a second season. So it was Oftentimes in 279 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 4: television things are really drawn out and they're very mysterious. 280 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: It's kind of like, well, we got to see how. 281 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: People react, and even if they react, and it's really good, 282 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: like we don't know, we'll let you know. Every step 283 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: of the way. 284 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: With PLL, it felt like everybody making it was very 285 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: much like we did something, we did something that's really 286 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: going to last, and it kept on like snowballing very quickly. 287 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Was there any really challenge scene that you had to 288 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: shoot that you remember being like, how am I gonna 289 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: do this? 290 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure you could talk to any of the girls 291 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: on the show and they might have the same answer. 292 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 4: But I always felt, like I said from the very beginning, 293 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: like I was wrong, And so I felt like, oh, 294 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: I totally get why Lucy Hale is here, Like I've 295 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: seen her on a TV show. I've seen Ashley Benson, 296 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: Shaye Mitchell is just like gorgeous. She walks into a 297 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: room and it's like ridiculous, you know, she takes the 298 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: air out of it. And so I was like, oh, 299 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 4: those girls make sense, and then but so are you? Well? 300 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: But I didn't feel that way. You had impossible syndrome 301 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 3: total totally. 302 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: And I have it for everything in my life. I 303 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: mean it's like I'm still experiencing it on the show 304 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: on call that I'm on, which like we'll get to 305 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: like I still have imposter syndrome. I'm every time somebody 306 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: who's a creative comes up to me on that set, 307 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, you're. 308 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: Gonna fire me, right, Like did you figure it out? 309 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: Did? I not? 310 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: Wull you? 311 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: But so it was all of the scenes that were 312 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: to me the hardest were when we had to be 313 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: like the pretty little liars, you know what I mean, 314 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: Like all the photo shoots and the interviews where it 315 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: was like I was just looking at my cast mates 316 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: and I was like, I get you guys in this world. 317 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: You guys all look like. 318 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: You stepped off the cover of seventeen magazine, and I 319 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: didn't understand where I fit into it. And so that 320 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 4: was really interesting because then in playing Spencer, there's a 321 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: lot of Spencer's insecurities and imposter syndrome as kind of 322 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: being like, you know, she she doesn't fit into her 323 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,119 Speaker 4: family and she's constantly trying to, you know, fit into 324 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: the girls in a weird way, and so those really 325 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: tracked for me. You know, I really understood that. And 326 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: it's been really cool because I feel like every time 327 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: I talk to a fan and they are very sweet 328 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: and they're like, I really identified with Spencer. That's kind 329 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: of what they bring up that they're like, I feel like, 330 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: you know, I have imposter syndrome or I have a perfectionism, 331 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: and I, you know, I have this drive to be 332 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: some thing or get somewhere that I don't feel like 333 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm there, So yeah, I'd say that was that was 334 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: like the parts where I felt the most that were 335 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: the most challenging was where I had to be like, 336 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: I'm a pretty little liar and that's totally fine with me, 337 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: Like I'm belong here. 338 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to see yourself in the light that you are, 339 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, and if you talk to Shay, she probably 340 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: felt the same way, or if you talk to ZOSSI, like, 341 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was a similar experience with every single 342 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: girl in Hannah. But imposter syndrome is so real. So 343 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: many people that I interview talk about it. How do 344 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: you deal with imposter syndrome when you are casted for 345 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: these big roles and you're like, well, I am here, Yeah, 346 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: this is me, and you. 347 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: Have to do a job. 348 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's I think so much of it 349 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: is it's that like fake it till you make it 350 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: kind of thing with no guarantee that you will ever 351 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: make it, you know, but it's it's the feel of. 352 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: Fear and do it. 353 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: Anyways, as I've gotten older, I just understand that feeling 354 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: like I'm not supposed to be in a place is 355 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: just the way my brain works. And it might be 356 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: a defense mechanism, or it might be a way that 357 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: like I've taught myself to think so that I can 358 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: be really prepared for situations. But whatever it is, it's 359 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: just the way my neurological pathways work. It's just like 360 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm going to tell myself, you don't belong here, so 361 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: you have to work x times harder to fit in. 362 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: And that's you know, as long as hopefully the catch 363 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: up is getting faster and faster as I grow older 364 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 4: and it's not weighing me down, that's that's the win 365 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 4: for me. 366 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: It's such a relatable experience and I feel like so 367 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: many people deal with this. Nobody is the perfect fit 368 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: for anything. Everybody's like has to work hard to get 369 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: a certain way, you know, and it's like imposter syndromes. 370 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes you feel like, well, there's all these other people 371 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: that are better than me, But at the same time, 372 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: it's like all of those people feel the same way 373 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: they do. It's important to just kind of rise up 374 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: to the challenge and attack it head on. 375 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's all you can do. 376 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. 377 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: It's like, I remember one of the things that gave 378 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: me the most comfort is not that long ago. I 379 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: was speaking with my acting coach, talking to her about 380 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: my imposter syndrome, just being like, I don't know how 381 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 4: to do this because I inherently think I'm wrong. And 382 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: she works with a lot of really successful actors and 383 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: she was working with somebody who won an Academy award 384 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 4: and she was like, I want to tell you that 385 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: on that job, I got this same call from them. 386 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: Everybody experiences this, and really what we as human beings 387 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: reward people for is when they step into who they are. 388 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: You know, we love theudiosyncrasies. We love the weird things 389 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: that you think like you're growing up in your ears 390 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 4: are too big, you know, and then all of a 391 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: sudden you're out in the world and you find out like, 392 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: actually that's my favorite part of you, yes, you know, 393 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 4: and it's when you stop trying to hide your ears. 394 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 4: You know that, Like all of a sudden, people are like, 395 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 4: I love you, I love that you're you, and that's 396 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: so cool and you inspire me to be more me. 397 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: How do you feel like pretty little liars formed you 398 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: and set you up for success in your other. 399 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: Roles in the specific industry that we work in. An entertainment. 400 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: People want to categorize you, and they want to put 401 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: you in these little boxes because that's easier for them 402 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: to understand. Right, everybody's dealing with their own things, and 403 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: they're moving so fast through life, and so particularly I 404 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: think with casting. When I came off of PLL, a 405 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 4: lot of people were like, great, she's a teen you know, 406 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 4: she's a teen actress. But the weird thing was when 407 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: I ended PL I was thirty and I was getting 408 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 4: married and then I started having kids, and so a 409 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: lot of what I came up against was like I 410 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 4: was kind of getting these auditions for really early twenties 411 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 4: or like very young feeling girls, and I was like, Okay, 412 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: I still mentally feel like I'm seventeen, but I know 413 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: physically i'm not. And so how I'm going to have 414 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: to start proving myself, start proving to people that I'm 415 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 4: in a different part of my life. It was really 416 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: interesting when I got on call this most recent show. Again, 417 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 4: like I said, I felt the whole time, I was like, 418 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: they're making a mistake. 419 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: I'm never going to get this job. But I related 420 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: to things. 421 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 4: In her that were, you know, woman in a male 422 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: dominated industry, somebody who's leading with intelligence, not necessarily appearance, 423 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: and somebody who has a lot of maternal feelings. She's 424 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 4: not a mother, but like at this point in my life, 425 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: I am, and so I felt really good stepping into 426 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: those roles and saying, now I can show this side 427 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: of myself and people might be ready to see it. 428 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was interesting because PLL was a great 429 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: launching pad, but it also is something that I need to, like, 430 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: you know, like kind of not get away from, but 431 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: like be in reaction to. 432 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: And it's cool because I feel like your fans have 433 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: been able to grow with you, and I love that 434 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: you kind of set that hard bar for yourself and 435 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: you were like, you know what, I'm ready to play 436 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: more mature characters. 437 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: And it's also just so liberating because a big thing 438 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: for me on the show, because I was always older 439 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 4: playing younger, something that was you know, this industry is 440 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 4: brutal on women and aging, and one of the things 441 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: that was really hard was that, like I said, I 442 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 4: feel seventeen at heart, but I know I'm at that 443 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 4: time was a woman in my mid twenties. 444 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: You is that the weird thing about being in your 445 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: mid twenties oh my god, you're literally you still feel 446 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: so young. 447 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and so but the interesting thing was, like 448 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 4: a lot of the show, a lot of the notes 449 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: were like how can we make Troy and like look younger, 450 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Or like appear younger, And 451 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 4: it was really hard because I was not, and I 452 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: was trying to mature in my life and my and 453 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: accept the way that my face was maturing and my 454 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: body was maturing. 455 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: But yet for this. 456 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: She's not aging, and so you kind of have to 457 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: hold yourself up to a interesting standard. And so it 458 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 4: was very, very liberating to then get subsequent roles where 459 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: it was like, oh, you're you know, even with on Call, 460 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 4: like Tracy Harmon is older than me, and so it 461 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: was so liberating to be like, oh my gosh, I 462 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: don't have to pretend to be younger. 463 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: You know. It was lovely. 464 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about On Call for a second, 465 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: because is it true that you trained like a real 466 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: police officer, like you shadowed police officers. 467 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: We did shadow police officers. 468 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: I wish we could say that we went through training like, 469 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: but that takes months. And it was really wild because 470 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: we actually got Brandon and I were cast and then 471 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: we were shooting two and a half weeks later, so 472 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: it was a trial by fire and it was really 473 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 4: it was cool. And I don't think I'm speaking out 474 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: of turn he said this, but it's like with Diaz's character, 475 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 4: he is it's his first day on the job, so 476 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 4: he's learned these things, but they don't have to be innate. 477 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: It was really wild for me to have, you know, 478 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: a few days of amazing training, but then to pretend 479 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: like I've been doing this for thirteen years, you know 480 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 4: what I mean. Like it was a really intimidating thing 481 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: to do. But we did get to go on ride 482 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: alongs with police officers. They were absolutely wonderful in like 483 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: being such open books and sharing their experiences and their feelings, 484 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: and yeah, it was a really wonderful experience. 485 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: And for people listening that don't know the premise of 486 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: the show, give us a little teaser of what people 487 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: can expect from on Call. 488 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 3: Sure. 489 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: So the show is really cool in that it is 490 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 4: a centers around to police officers. My character, Tracy Harmon, 491 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: is a field training officer, and then it is my trainee, 492 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: Alex Diaz, who's played by Brandon Leraquente, who's amazing, and 493 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: it is his. 494 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: First day on the job. 495 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 4: So it's about a veteran police officer and a rookie 496 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: going out and going on calls. And the thing that 497 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 4: I really love about the show is that it's really 498 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: about just real time experiences that they're you know, having, 499 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 4: and it really invites you in almost in like a 500 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 4: documentary style, to see what it's like to live as 501 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: a police officer. 502 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: If the show continues with more seasons, is there an 503 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: evolution that you'd like to see with your character, like 504 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: kind of growth that you'd want to see within the lea. 505 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's. 506 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 4: Hard because it's like, so so my character's desire, you know, 507 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: she's been a patrol cop for twelve years, and so 508 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 4: she's just getting a call and responding and getting a 509 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: call and responding in this very fast turnover rate, and 510 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 4: her desire is to become somebody who's a part of 511 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: a larger team, whether that's you know, a drug and 512 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 4: trafficking team or whether it's a detective, you know, some 513 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 4: of the things where you get to work on a 514 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: case for a much longer time period. The challenging thing 515 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 4: is that's what I want to see for my character 516 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: and that's what my character wants. But then at the 517 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: same time, I wouldn't get to be working with Brandon 518 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: and he wouldn't get to be my rookie. So I 519 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: don't I don't want that in a way because I 520 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: want to continue the show and see the relationship as 521 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: it buds between these two characters. But it's just really 522 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: funny that, like we have these overlapping desires, but they're 523 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: sort of like contra the show. 524 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: It's interesting. Wait, I'm curious too with that to Pretty 525 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Little Liars? Did you ever predict the ending of Pretty 526 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Little Liars? 527 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: I wish I could say that I did, but I so, 528 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 4: I'm incredibly nosy. And I loved our writing staff. They 529 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: were just so magnificent and I'm so grateful to have 530 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 4: worked with all of them are so talented. And so 531 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: what I would do is while we would shoot on 532 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: a stage and then like twenty feet away where the 533 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: offices and up the stairs was the writing room. And 534 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 4: we were not really supposed to be in the writer's room. 535 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: It's not like we were not allowed, but I don't 536 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: know if you remember, but like when the show was 537 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: coming out, it was so tightly guarded as far as 538 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 4: secrets and twists and reveals, so they didn't want to 539 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: let anybody in, and so I would kind of like 540 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 4: find excuses to come up to the office and like 541 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: poke my head in the writer's room and like try 542 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: to steal a look at the storylines on the board 543 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: or like ask them casually. When they came down to 544 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: go get a coffee from set, I was like, so, like, 545 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: what's happening with Spencer this season? 546 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And they saw right through me. 547 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: They were like, you know, we can't tell you that. 548 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that you can't know as the one 549 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: playing the show was. 550 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: That was something that we did come up against a lot, 551 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: and I know I'm not the only one, you know. 552 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: It was like for a lot of the characters because 553 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: they would suddenly reveal like this person's been a all along, 554 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: and the person who was playing that character was like, wait, 555 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 4: I haven't been thinking that. 556 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: I've just been like existing in my own world. What 557 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: do you mean, I've been. 558 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 4: Torturing my best friend. So it was really funny kind 559 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 4: of have these like catchups. And then I was really 560 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: fortunate in that there was one I think I just 561 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: got her on a good day and I was shooting 562 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: a scene with Keegan Allen, who played Toby. 563 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: It was just the two of us, and Marlene King 564 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: came down, our creator, and. 565 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: We were like, Marlene, like, what's gonna happen on this show? 566 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: Ultimately like who's the big battie? And I guess she 567 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 4: was just in a really good mood because she was like, 568 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 4: sit down, children, I'll tell you a story of what 569 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: I hope to have happen. And so that was in 570 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: our fourth year, and that was when she told me 571 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: about the possibility of Alex Drake and she but she 572 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: told me she was like, look if I if this 573 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: ever gets out, we can't do it. So if you 574 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 4: are interested in playing two characters and being twins and 575 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 4: having this whole ending, you got to keep your trap 576 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: shut for like three years. 577 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: Wow. 578 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: It was It was really fun. 579 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: I love knowing that it was you and Keegan that 580 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: found out. Yeah, so that's just funny. Based on your 581 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: the storyline, people were obsessed with what is the name? 582 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: It was like, so be Boby Boby. Yeah, that took 583 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: on a world of its own. 584 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 3: It totally did. 585 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: And I love knowing how you wanted to sneak into 586 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: the writer's room, because it's cool seeing like your progression 587 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: as like a business woman and as an entrepreneur, Like 588 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: you love writing, you love directing. I know you even 589 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: directed one episode of Pretty Little Liars. Yes, and you've 590 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: gone on to direct your own movies. What about directing? 591 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you love? 592 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's really funny. 593 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: I I love directing, But it wasn't something that came 594 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 4: naturally to me, because I grew up surrounded by directors, right. 595 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 4: My mom's a director, my dad's a director, my husband's 596 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: a director, my best friend's a director, and so growing 597 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 4: up I was just like, oh, I'll be I'll be 598 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: the writer or I'll be the actress, and then you 599 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: guys will take care of the rest and all that. 600 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: And it wasn't actually until I was on PLL and 601 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: I would be my usual no and I would be 602 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 4: talking to the directors and I would say like, what 603 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: lens are you using? 604 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: Or why are you shooting like this? Or oh, are 605 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: you going to get coverage from over here? What if 606 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: I did this? 607 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: And it was a really wonderful sound person named Jill 608 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 4: who would tell me she was like Bella, Sorry. 609 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: When are you gonna direct? And I was like, Jill, 610 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: I'm never directing. What are you talking about. 611 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: She was like okay, and she just kind of like 612 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: laid into me over many seasons, you just like I 613 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: don't know, I'm just waiting for you to get in 614 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: that chair. And I was like, Jill, it's never happening. 615 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't have any interest. And then once we started 616 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: getting to the final seasons, I realized I was like, oh, 617 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: I might never have another show where I'm this comfortable 618 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: with all the creative entities, where I know these characters 619 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: so well, where I have this relationship with the actors 620 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: and with the creative, you know, side of things. Maybe 621 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: I should throw my hat in the ring. And they 622 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: were just so endlessly supportive, and they set me up 623 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: at Warner Brothers and I got to take the Director's Workshop, 624 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 4: which was like a crash course in filmmaking, and did 625 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: television production, which I'm I learned everything. And then it 626 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: really was wonderful because it felt like making a home 627 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: movie like with your friends, you know. It was really 628 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: like it was so awesome to be able to get 629 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: into a scene and be like Shay Sasha, like you 630 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: know exactly what you're doing, Like I'm just gonna set 631 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: up the shot like, you know, and they would you know, they'd. 632 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: Either do that or they'd be like, well what about 633 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: if I do this? 634 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: And I was like, yes, absolutely, So it was It 635 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: was such a wonderful springboard for me to learn that craft. 636 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 4: And then after that, you know, I got the chance 637 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: to direct an episode of Famous in Love, which was 638 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: wonderful because it was new storylines, new actors, but a 639 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: really similar you know, producers. Marlene was the creator of that. 640 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: And then after that I got Good Trouble. And the 641 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: wonderful thing about Good Trouble was it was totally new actors, 642 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: totally new creatives. But by that time I had had 643 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: topisodes under my belt to be like, Okay, I know 644 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: a little bit how this works, and then it's just 645 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: been growing from there. 646 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. We talked a little bit about Patrick 647 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: for contact. Troyan's husband is Patrick Jay Adams, who plays 648 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: Michael Ross famously in Suits. Is it true that he 649 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: was originally casted for something within the pl universe and 650 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: then was showing up too much on set and ended 651 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: up getting cut before Is that true? 652 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: That is a hilarious rumor. Oh my god, I want 653 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 4: to go tell that to Patrick immediately. Do you imagine 654 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, sorry, you're stalking the set too. 655 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: I feel like that. 656 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: So what happened was we were together. 657 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 4: We met on a play, and then I got PLL 658 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: and we were together, and then in between the season, 659 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: like going into season one, we broke up. 660 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: It like immediately the day. 661 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: After we break up, he gets an audition for a 662 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: role on my show. Okay, he's obviously an incredible actor, 663 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: and he knew our amazing casting directors, Bonnie Zane and 664 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: Gil Pillsbury, and so he went in knocked it out 665 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: of the park and then told them he was like 666 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: I really want this role, and they were like okay, 667 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 4: Like okay, sure, And so then he got the role, 668 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 4: and then he called me and he was like, hey, 669 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to be on your show, so we should 670 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: probably like talk because it I don't want it to 671 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: be weird when we're on set together. And then of 672 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 4: course we talk and we end up getting back together, 673 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: and then we did not shoot it all together. I 674 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: wasn't even on set that day. We never would have 675 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: seen each other, but we were back in a relationship. 676 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: Very clearly. We were meant to be, but that was 677 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: why I no. 678 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: So he had a role, and I think one of 679 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: the fun things about his role too, is that there 680 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: was a lot of I think now looking back at 681 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: the show, there's a lot of controversy around the Ezra 682 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: Aria storyline. You know, it's yes, yes, what's so funny 683 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: because it's like, at the time, it was like ezraa forever, 684 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 4: like these two are endgame and they do they end 685 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 4: up getting married. But now several years later, we're like, 686 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: m that was a really not cool relationship. And it 687 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 4: was funny because he was the only character who said 688 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: this is not cool, and he was playing like Ezra's 689 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: friend and he was just like, you cannot be dating 690 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 4: a high schooler, Like he was the one voice of 691 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: reason in. 692 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: The entirety of our show. 693 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like he came from the future to 694 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: be like, hmm, I don't know about this. 695 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So he was in pretty Little Liars. 696 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: He was in pretty Little Liars for one episode and 697 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: then he got suits. 698 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, got it. 699 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: What is it like working together because I know you guys, yes, 700 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: unmarried and then married, have been on sets together collaborating 701 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: in film. 702 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Yes, So what is it like working with your partner. 703 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: It's a blast. I mean, it is. 704 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: It's so fun because originally, like I you know, like 705 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: I told you on our walk, we were seven years 706 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 4: long distance, and so the only time when we would 707 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: really get to see each other was when I miraculously 708 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: had a day off or he had a day off, 709 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 4: and we'd fly to each other's sets, but usually the 710 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: other person would be working. So I spent so much 711 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: time hanging out on the suit set, just like sitting 712 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: in a chair just. 713 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: Being like, no, honey, you know. 714 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: And and so it was really wonderful because I got 715 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: to know the whole cast of suits, and I got 716 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: to know the writers and the directors really well from 717 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 4: just like being there. And then they suddenly like had 718 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 4: a role for me, And it was so wonderful because 719 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 4: I was like, wait, now we're guaranteed to spend time 720 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: together because we'll be like, you have to work, and 721 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 4: I'll be there. 722 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: So it was so much fun. 723 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: And then since then it's just been a really wonderful different, 724 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: you know, kinds of collaboration where we'll have a movie 725 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: and suddenly you know, he'll be cast and they'll be like, 726 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: well what if you come along? And I'm like, great, 727 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: Now we're guaranteed to hang out together, so it's it's 728 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 4: a real joy and it's really fun. The last time 729 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: we worked together was on a show in Canada and 730 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 4: we were actually playing like we were having an affair 731 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 4: with each other, which was very funny because he had 732 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 4: like a different wife and I was having an affair 733 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: with me. 734 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: What is that like? 735 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: I interviewed Henry Golding and we talked about this because 736 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: he wasn't an actor before booking Crazy Rigasions, Oh my god. 737 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: And I remember him saying it was hard for his 738 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: wife because he was She was like, you were never 739 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: an actor, and all of a sudden, you're falling in 740 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: love on screen. Sure, what is it like seeing your 741 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: partner have a romantic relationship on screen? 742 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: You know? I feel very fortunate. 743 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is it like? 744 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: Do you want to do you want to talk to that? 745 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: You have no problem? Tell me what it's like. You 746 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: have no albums together, so we've been together so long. 747 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, get it, babe, have fun. 748 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: No, that was the perfect question to come in for. Okay, 749 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: that's great, great, great. 750 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: That's what it's like. 751 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: No, honestly, it is like, you know, I think I 752 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 4: think both of us truly understand how awkward love scenes are, 753 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: and so the last thing I ever want to do 754 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 4: is provide an additional thing in his head when you're 755 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: having to shoot a love scene. You know, I don't 756 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 4: want him to be thinking like, oh, what does Troy 757 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: and think about this? 758 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: So I've been I feel very confident and no, yeah, 759 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's one of the worst things. 760 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: But I can't even dance on camera. So, like the 761 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: whole love scene thing is crazy to me. 762 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 3: It is deeply embarrassing. 763 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: And I will say the funny thing about it is like, 764 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: obviously I don't love watching him make out with another 765 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 4: person or have sex with another person. And it's always 766 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: really weird because like, you know, you're the most intimate, 767 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: like we. 768 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: Have two kids together. 769 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like super weird when I'm hearing him 770 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: kiss and like I'm like, that's that sound is very familiar, 771 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Or like he'll do like 772 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 4: a little sign and I'm like, I. 773 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: Know that side. That's creepy. So it is. 774 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, they are like weird, you know, intimacies that are 775 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 4: a little bit like tough to swallow, and. 776 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: You're like I thought, I thought only I heard that sound. 777 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Literally, and then it's like everybody watch, Oh gosh, yeah, no, 778 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: it's likely embarrassing. Yeah, I get I like that. I 779 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: like that term deeply embarrassing. That was that would be 780 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: how I feel. I'm like, did you watch Aurora Aurora Yura? 781 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: And no, no, that's okay, my DA's name is yes, 782 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: I do, Okay, did you watch? 783 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm so impressed by how she maneuvered that role. 784 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: I have never had to do like that kind of 785 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 4: a role, that kind of and so I have so 786 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 4: much respect for that, like so deeply vulnerable and it is, 787 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: you know, obviously like for that role. It's so necessary 788 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: and her vulnerability and her like also just her dance skills, 789 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: her training, like the way she carried herself, like it 790 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: is the Brooklyn accent, the Brooklyn accents, learning Russian, like 791 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 4: it's so clear why she won the Academy Award for 792 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 4: Best Actress, Like it's you know it. But it's really 793 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 4: amazing to get to see a character and get to 794 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 4: see somebody because I don't know Mikey personally, but it 795 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 4: would be so interesting to meet her and see who 796 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 4: she is outside of that character, because I bet she's 797 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 4: a totally different person. 798 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: We have been filming for so long. Yeah, so I 799 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: feel like Spencer and I could talk forever. We talked 800 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: about this a little bit before, but Spencer's a scorpio 801 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: and I'm a cancer, and they're like the most compatible signs. 802 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: So I really feel like we could talk forever. But 803 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 2: let's wrap up. 804 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: What do you have coming up that you're excited about 805 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: that you want us to be on the lookout for. 806 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Well, if you haven't seen on Call 807 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: on Amazon, please watch it. It's so much fun and 808 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 4: we had so much fun making it, and so we're 809 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 4: really looking forward to Fingers Crossed A Season two and 810 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: getting back into work because I love all of those 811 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: people and I love the opportunity. 812 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: It was just such a different world to film in. 813 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: And then what do I have coming up? 814 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: Like you said, I'm a writer, so I'm just constantly 815 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 4: writing and trying to create my own things, and so 816 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 4: I can't wait to hopefully have some good news in 817 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 4: that sphere as well. 818 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: And yeah, that's it. 819 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: I love it so much. Well, thank you so much. 820 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for being so much, Thanks for coming to 821 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: my house. I really appreciate it. M.