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Speaker 1: I can tell you a heavy one and I'm involved

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Speaker 1: in that and I look at it every morning. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm mainly running the video side of things, and even

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Speaker 1: more specifically our YouTube channel. Just phenomenal growth. I mean

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Speaker 1: phenomenal growth. You guys have really outdone yourself. We don't

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Speaker 1: give ourselves a lot of pats on the back because

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Speaker 1: we're not the ones watching our content. You are. We're

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Speaker 1: just skilled enough to listen to you and know what

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Speaker 1: you want, try and give you what you want. As

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Speaker 1: for the college football side of things, obviously, data science

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Speaker 1: and analytics play a huge role there too. It's my

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Speaker 1: belief this is why it's become more possible for younger

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Speaker 1: head coaches to succeed. Immediately, think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you are Lincoln Riley. Let's say you're Ryan Day,

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. These are all guys whose first head coaching

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Speaker 1: jobs were at top five top ten programs conservatively depending

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Speaker 1: on how you view them, but at least top ten programs.

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Speaker 1: I would argue top five. And you let's say you

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Speaker 1: were to tell your grandpa that happened. So your grand

447
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Speaker 1: your dad just tell your dad that who's living in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty telling hey, there's going to come a day

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Speaker 1: where guys are going to have their first head coaching

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Speaker 1: job at Georgia and Ohio State and Oklahoma. And it

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Speaker 1: won't be because those programs have faded away. They'll still

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Speaker 1: be really, really big programs. This is just the way

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Imagine that, because that was a

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Speaker 1: day and age. You can fast forward past nineteen eighty

455
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Speaker 1: until very recently, it was such that you had to

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Speaker 1: cut your teeth at a MAC school or somewhere like that,

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Speaker 1: or an FCS and then work your way up to

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Speaker 1: a lower tier G five and then maybe you get

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Speaker 1: like and this is no knock on these programs, but

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Speaker 1: maybe you lock down a job at like an organ

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Speaker 1: state somewhere like that, and you got to prove yourself

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Speaker 1: there and then maybe you can move up. But it

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Speaker 1: takes several several rungs on the ladder. Well, now it's

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Speaker 1: not like that anymore. What does this have to do

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Speaker 1: with data and analytics? Well, think about this. What was

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Speaker 1: it that you were really gaining. You were gaining experience,

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Speaker 1: you were gaining wisdom. That's what you were gaining through

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Speaker 1: knowledge that you would acquire. Imagine what you have at

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Speaker 1: your fingertips today. Imagine what Kirby Smart can do in

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Speaker 1: one afternoon if he really sets his mind to it.

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Speaker 1: At Georgia, he could expose himself through data science and

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Speaker 1: through analys And let me also throw this in advances

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Speaker 1: in film study technology. He could expose himself too, in

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Speaker 1: one afternoon what it would have taken years to accumulate,

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Speaker 1: quite literally a couple of decades ago. And I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about obviously data and analytics, reports, trends, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: sports science information about your players, as well as watching

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Speaker 1: actual reps on film. If you want to know what

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Speaker 1: predominantly four and five wide set type offenses are doing

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Speaker 1: on third and four to eight in the third quarter

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Speaker 1: of games in October, you could know that within one minute.

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Speaker 1: You could have it pulled up within one minute. Understand

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Speaker 1: what you would have had to do to gather that

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Speaker 1: kind of meticulously detailed information a generation to go. So

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Speaker 1: what does this do? Well? It pumps. It's like take

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Speaker 1: It's like the difference between the amount of liquid you

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Speaker 1: could get through a straw versus a fire hydrant. You

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Speaker 1: have a fire hydrant of information now, and if you

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Speaker 1: harness it the right way, then you could rocket yourself

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Speaker 1: up at the top because now everyone has that capability.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't so much come down anymore to how

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Speaker 1: much knowledge can you acquire? It's how well can you

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Speaker 1: lead people? Because if you've got the leadership skills, the

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Speaker 1: football stuff and I say stuff respectfully is so much

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Speaker 1: easier to obtain in twenty twenty. Good question there. I

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Speaker 1: love Bryce Young in the podcast review. Guess what this

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Speaker 1: question is going to be about. What's more likely Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young starting by the Georgia game or by October? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to hedge my bet and say October.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, of course, is the number one player in

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Speaker 1: the twenty four to seven Sports Composite player ratings for

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Speaker 1: this last recruiting cycle. Obviously, that makes in the number

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Speaker 1: one quarterback in the country too. Is that of Modern

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Speaker 1: Day High School a school that I badly mispronounced for

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Speaker 1: years Ma D mayer d High School? Not so fast?

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Speaker 1: Modern Day High School, powerhouse program out there. Going to

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Speaker 1: be a stud It's a matter of if not when. However,

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Speaker 1: because they lost spring at Alabama, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: starting the season. I don't think he's going to start

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Speaker 1: the Georgia game by October. I don't know because what

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Speaker 1: are we asking here? It's going to be kind of weird.

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Speaker 1: And you know, mac Jones is not a bad quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not a placeholder. Mac Jones is a

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Speaker 1: very good quarterback. Mac Jones is good enough to win

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Speaker 1: a national championship at Alabama. Okay, that's how good a

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Speaker 1: quarterback I think he is with the surrounding cast he'll have.

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Speaker 1: So what is he going to do to lose his job?

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Speaker 1: Is Bryce Young without Spring going to be that much better?

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Speaker 1: Because keep in mind, now, I don't know that Saban's

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Speaker 1: the same coach now as he was in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: But in twenty seventeen, this was a guy who allowed

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts to start an entire year ahead of Tu

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Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa when people were whispering, too is

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Speaker 1: the better quarterback And it ended up being true, which

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Speaker 1: is opposite of what the case is most of the

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Speaker 1: time when people are whispering. We'll see there. Baseball Nuts

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Speaker 1: six in the podcast review, out of the Tier one programs,

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Speaker 1: which is most likely to fall off like Florida State

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Speaker 1: did a few years back. Let me first say I

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Speaker 1: have LSU as a Tier one program right now, now.

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Speaker 1: I know that some of you were as or you

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Speaker 1: were responding rather to the Sunday Night Show and you said,

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Speaker 1: how can you have them as a Tier one program?

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Speaker 1: They only just now won a national championship. Before that,

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Speaker 1: they weren't on that level. I know that, but I

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Speaker 1: think so much changed last year that if I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at them from this point moving forward, I think they're

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Speaker 1: at tier I think they're at Tier one level for

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Speaker 1: a while. Having said that, I think the answer here

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Speaker 1: is LSU, with the caveat that I don't think any

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Speaker 1: of them are falling off like FSU did a few

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Speaker 1: years back. The reason I say LSU is because even

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Speaker 1: though I don't believe this, I guess it's possible that

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Speaker 1: last year was a one hit wonder and they lost

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Speaker 1: so much and could never return to form anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to resembling what they did last year. That's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: It's a much bigger possibility than Clemson falling. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they'd even trip over in the acc Ohio state.

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Speaker 1: That's a machine that's just speeding up. Alabama's a machine

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Speaker 1: that has been going that fast for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You could probably say, what if Saban retired or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I don't think that's happening in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years, So I guess LSU is the answer.

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Speaker 1: But understand, I think some of these programs have detached

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Speaker 1: to themselves. You know, it's kind of like a hot

556
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Speaker 1: air balloon and they've thrown all the sandbags out. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing holding them down now. So I don't, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's happening at all. Next up Huggins

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Still in the podcast review section, Considering the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, ACC and Big Twelve, which of those conferences

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Speaker 1: is most likely to crown a champion not named Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: Clemson or Oklahoma. So Ohio State, Clemson, Oklahoma, they are

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming favorites, respectively to win their conferences. Which one

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Speaker 1: of those conferences is most likely to produce a champion

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Speaker 1: not from that group? Well, you got to either think. Basically,

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Speaker 1: what you're asking is is Texas in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 1: Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin in the Big Ten, North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: and the ACC. Those look to be the biggest challengers

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Speaker 1: in those respective conferences. I guess I'd go with the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten in Ohio State, and that's only because there

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Speaker 1: are more capable teams up there. They are Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't just shock me out of this world if

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Speaker 1: you were to fast forward to December and one of

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Speaker 1: them has won this thing. And I wouldn't be shocked

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Speaker 1: at Texas winning the Big twelve. I'd be pretty surprised

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Speaker 1: at North Carolina winning the ACC Not shocked, but surprised. However,

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Speaker 1: they're just more contenders in the Big ten, so I'd

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Speaker 1: say the Big ten's more likely. Gunner nine to fifty

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Speaker 1: five podcast review Miami Roster and Potential this year. Gunner,

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Speaker 1: this is another one I want to kick down the

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Speaker 1: road until camps have opened or practiced. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what we're going to call this this year, but I

583
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Speaker 1: want to kick that one down the road just a

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Speaker 1: little way. So hang in there on that one. Rob

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Speaker 1: in the email inbox, Josh. For those of us not

586
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Speaker 1: in the media, what is it like to be recruited

587
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: to your new twenty four to seven job. Well, it

588
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: was an honor, Rob, and it was very unexpected. I

589
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Speaker 1: would say every time I've been given an opportunity in

590
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Speaker 1: this particular business, it's been unexpected, which is why I

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Speaker 1: always encourage younger kids if I'm talking to them and

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Speaker 1: they're asking about career advice, it's imperative to understand in

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Speaker 1: this business. And this really translates to pretty much any business,

594
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Speaker 1: especially if it's a performance based business. You are auditioning

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Speaker 1: every single day for a job, and that is what

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Speaker 1: you have to tell yourself on days you're not feeling it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone can be in the zone when they're focused and

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Speaker 1: they're in a good mood and they're riding the high

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Speaker 1: and they've been getting good numbers or whatnot. What about

600
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: when you feel like trash and you just missed a

601
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Speaker 1: bill payment and you got an overdraft fee hanging over

602
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Speaker 1: your head and you've got problems at home and last

603
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Speaker 1: thing you want to do is go do a radio show.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing that day? Because that could be

605
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Speaker 1: the day someone's passing through town and happens to turn

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Speaker 1: on the dial and they're listening to you and they

607
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Speaker 1: are in a position to hire you. So that's what

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Speaker 1: happened to me in radio. To back up for a second,

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Speaker 1: I was in radio, and guys, the only reason I

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Speaker 1: was in radio is because the guy who is the

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Speaker 1: program director at the radio station heard some of my

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Speaker 1: work that I was doing just on my own, not

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Speaker 1: even broadcasting anywhere, just on my own. So that was

614
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Speaker 1: the first step of unexpected advancement. And I'm on the

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Speaker 1: radio and a general manager from a TV station after

616
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Speaker 1: a couple of years calls me up out of the blue,

617
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: never met him before, said, Hey, been listening to you

618
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Speaker 1: for about a month, want to offer you a job here.

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Speaker 1: Want to give your own college football TV show five

620
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Speaker 1: nights a week, ding ding ding got there advanced a

621
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Speaker 1: few years. I've already told this story, but end up

622
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Speaker 1: being able to produce my own college football content there

623
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Speaker 1: and lo and behold the CEO of twenty four to

624
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: seven Sports, shan Terry me Up. I famously sent that

625
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: called voicemail first time because I didn't recognize the number

626
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: telemarketers they'll get you. Well, he's not a telemarketer, at

627
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: least not that I know of, and certainly not his

628
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Speaker 1: day job. So I called him back and he said, man,

629
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Speaker 1: I was watching your stuff and I want to hire you.

630
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: So you can imagine Rob. I mean, I was not

631
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Speaker 1: being paid very much at all to do that show

632
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: in Columbus, but yet it was an audition. Every single

633
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: show was an audition, and so to answer your question,

634
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: what was it like, Well, it was a thrill and

635
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: it felt like something that came out of the blue,

636
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: but really it was something that had been growing for

637
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Speaker 1: a number of years. The Chinese bamboo story. If you're

638
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: not familiar with that, read it. There are different perceptions

639
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Speaker 1: of how success happens, and it never happens all of

640
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: a sudden. Meaningful success does not happen all of a sudden.

641
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: It may look to you on the outside like someone

642
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden caught their big break, but without

643
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Speaker 1: the years of grind they had put in on the

644
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: front end, and would they have ever been in position

645
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: to benefit from it. If the answer is no, then

646
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: it didn't happen all of a sudden. So that's kind

647
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: of the way I look at that, Rob Oh, let

648
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: me adjust here. Will on the YouTube channel, Auburn has

649
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: a schedule change this year. A lot of people in

650
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: the SEC do. By the way, I don't know that

651
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: you guys fully realize this, but it's going to look

652
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: different down here this year. But Will's talking about Auburn,

653
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: he said. Lsu is at home in late November and

654
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Georgia game is in week six. Could this difference have

655
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: any influence on the result in Auburn's favor? Also, you

656
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: may not be allowed to say anything about this, but

657
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: you will you know the question you asked, And no,

658
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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to say anything about that, but your

659
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Speaker 1: third question I can talk about. Finally, what's your favorite

660
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: episode of the Office. Let me work backwards. My favorite

661
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: episode of the Office is Stress Relief Part one. Can't

662
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: remember what season it's in, Stress Relief Part one. It

663
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: is the first episode of whatever season it's in. I think.

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Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that. Oh, what an episode. You

665
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: can ask me Office questions all day. I'll be happy

666
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: to answer them. Now back to the Auburn question. No,

667
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to work in Auburn's

668
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: favor at all. Will It is a change, but I

669
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to work in Auburn's favor. Here's

670
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: the reason Auburn schedule is insanity. The Auburn job is

671
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: the hardest job in major college football. Major college football

672
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: hardest job. Here's why. The goal there is a championship.

673
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: Here's what they have to go through if they were

674
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Speaker 1: to win a national championship or play for one. Their

675
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: final five games would be LSU Alabama SEC Championship game,

676
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: College Football playoff, semi final, National Championship game. Those are

677
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: five games in a row against top three or four

678
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: caliber teams that they'd be having to beat Because think

679
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: about it, will you? You said, well, Georgia, they don't

680
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: have to play them late in the year. Well, yeah

681
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: they do. If they get through the West, they do.

682
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: They just go to it to play him. So how

683
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: about a three game stretch if you're gonna win the

684
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: SEC championship game? How about a three game stretch where

685
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: in all likelihood you have to beat LSU Alabama, Georgia

686
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: back to back to back, no off week. You want

687
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: to know why I argue that the G five and

688
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: the P five aren't playing the same sport. You're going

689
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: to have G five teams that don't go through that

690
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: collective struggle in a decade. Auburn does it in the

691
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: span of three weeks this year. Maybe it's insane. Moving

692
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: on d Golfer sixty on YouTube, do you ever take

693
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: a minute to look back at transfers and evaluate if

694
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: they made a good or bad decision and if the

695
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: move helped or hurt their draft stop? I E. Jalen

696
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: hurts leaving Bama hurt his and as it turns out,

697
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Alabama's chances to win the national championship last year, but

698
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: his moved to Oklahoma and performance and a new system

699
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: probably helped his draft stop. And he mentioned Shaye Patterson too. Yeah,

700
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: I do think about this, but I also I don't

701
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: know that I agree with you that Jalen it hurts.

702
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is him going to Alabama

703
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Speaker 1: hurt his draft stock, or him maybe staying at Alabama

704
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: a year. I don't think that hurt his draft stock

705
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: at all. I think it showed incredible character, fortitude, mental toughness,

706
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: every intangible you could ever want to know about Jalen.

707
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: It hurts you learned before he went to Oklahoma, and

708
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: then he showed you any remaining skills that you had

709
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: doubts about at Oklahoma. I don't necessarily know that it

710
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: hurt him. Now, there are some players who do get

711
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: hurt by Shaye Patterson. I just didn't. I never saw

712
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Speaker 1: his physical ability as being five star caliber. I'm not

713
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: on the ratings council here, but I never thought of

714
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: him like that, and I certainly didn't think him going

715
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Speaker 1: to Michigan was putting him in a position where the

716
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Speaker 1: system around him was going to allow him to shine.

717
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: David on Twitter, You've said that the root cause of

718
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: a program's dysfunction is often the ad the athletic department.

719
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Excuse me not pulling in the same direction. What are

720
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: the possible directions that administrators can pull? What's the wrong direction?

721
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Most importantly, for what reason to rational people not pull

722
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: in the right direction? Is it incompetence? No, David, A

723
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are very smart. It's power, it's control,

724
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: influence and power. I've experienced this before, not firsthand. I've

725
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: never had enough money to have this kind of power

726
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: that I could wield, but I've witnessed this before. Here's

727
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: how it works. You got a lot of folks who

728
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: grow up and they've got an attachment to a program university,

729
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: and as they grow older, they make sound business decisions

730
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: and financial decisions and life decisions, career whatever, and they

731
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Speaker 1: get themselves a little bit of wealth, and they use

732
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: that wealth to acquire status and notoriety with the athletic

733
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Speaker 1: department of maybe major university. I'm just going to pick

734
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Speaker 1: one out of the hat. Let's say Tennessee. I'm not

735
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: speaking about Tennessee specifically. Let's just say Tennessee. And so

736
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Speaker 1: over time they build a lot of influence and their

737
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: currency is not so much anymore how the team's doing.

738
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Speaker 1: It's how much power and influence they have. Texas has

739
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: been famous for this for a while. Alabama before Saban

740
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: was like this. So here's what happens. What happens is

741
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: when it's time to make a move, when it's time

742
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: to make a decision, like for instance, with Alabama, when

743
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: it was time to get rid of Mike Shula. A

744
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: lot of them didn't like that. They didn't like it,

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: not because Alabama was winning. Alabama couldn't beat Auburn to

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: save the life at that point. We already talked about

747
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: that earlier today. But Shula was a guy who ran

748
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: a program that was such that they had a lot

749
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Speaker 1: of influence. They had a lot of power. And here's

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00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the sad reality. A lot of these folks, not a

751
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: lot some of these There are enough people that would

752
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: rather go seven and five and have a ton of

753
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: stroke than go twelve and zero and just have their

754
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: check cash but not really have a whole lot of influence.

755
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Now that may make you sick to your stomach. Is

756
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Speaker 1: just a casual season ticket holder or a fan who

757
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: sits at home and watches every Saturday, and you don't

758
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: get to see this happening behind the scenes. But that's

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: what happens. And here's the problem. If you come in

760
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Speaker 1: as a head coach, they're the ones who hired you.

761
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: They're the ones who had fit the bill to hire

762
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Speaker 1: you in a lot of cases. So unless you are

763
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban who had the gravataz to come in and

764
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: say you're either gonna shut up and get out of

765
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Speaker 1: the way, or disassociate your stuff in this program, or

766
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be here. Unless you can do that,

767
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: and not many can. You may have a lot of

768
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: folks pulling in a lot of different directions, and the

769
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Speaker 1: way they're pulling is in the direction of them. That's

770
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: the wrong direction to be pulling. Robert on YouTube, I'm

771
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Speaker 1: wondering how you think the arrest of Tennessee running back

772
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Speaker 1: and leading rusher Tim Jordan will impact the ball's run

773
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: game next year. Yeah, Robert, I talked to someone about

774
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: this today. I'm going to take a wait and see

775
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: approach on this. And the reason is we got a

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Speaker 1: marijuana charge and a gun charge. Here was I think

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: how I read it. I've been on vacation again, so

778
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I've been a little bit out of pocket. But I

779
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: just want to see how Jeremy Pruitt decides to handle it.

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00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got an entire extended fall camp coming up.

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00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: It could be that they decide there are plenty ways

782
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: they could structure things to where he could earn the

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00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: right to be back in very good standing. To be

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00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: honest with you, that's what I've always preferred as a

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: method of punishment. But we'll see about that if he's

786
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: not available. I think what stands out the most is

787
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: he's not a true freshman. This is an upperclassman that

788
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: you hope setting an example, and instead this happened. So

789
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: let me take a little while and see how that

790
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: plays out. Luke on YouTube, who do you think is

791
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: DBU and why Ohio State? And I'm going to tell

792
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: you why because they produced the most NFL talent and

793
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: their players have done the most in the NFL. I

794
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: don't care who has the most T shirts, I don't

795
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: care who prints out the most fancy posters. They look

796
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: good and it's not like LSU doesn't belright in the conversation,

797
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: or Alabama or Florida State could be up there, but

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00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: there's no program that's done it better over the last

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00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: decade and a half in Ohio State, just point blank

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Speaker 1: James on Twitter, what do you think is holding Auburn

801
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: back from becoming a Tier one program? Why can't they

802
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: sustain success when they have to do it well? They're

803
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: in truly shark infested waters. They're just I mean, they're

804
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: in the same state. They are two hours down the

805
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: road from the greatest dynasty in the history of college football.

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00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: The fact that they have managed to be pretty successful

807
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: during that stretch is a testament to me. It's why Malson,

808
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I think is one of the most underrated head coaches

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00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: in America. Who else is able to do that at

810
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: the same time as Nick Saban's doing what he's done

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Speaker 1: in Alabama. When you look throughout history and you've had

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00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: a major program go on a run that even remotely

813
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: compares to what Alabama's done, now look at what their

814
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: rival did in that same stretch. It's very lopsided. The

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00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: Alabama Auburn rivalry has not been lopsided. It has not.

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Alabama's got the slide edge. But there is no other

817
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: head coach aside from ed Orgeron in the SEC who

818
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: has beaten Nick Saban in a football game. Think about

819
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: what I just said. Oorjeron only did it this year,

820
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: So until November of this year, there was no other

821
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Speaker 1: active head coach in this conference who had beaten Saban.

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00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: Mal Zon had done it multiple times. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I mean, as long as he's there, and

824
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: Kirby is at Georgia and Orgeron and LSU are doing

825
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: their thing, it's just very hard if you're not already there.

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00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: It is very hard to become a Tier one program.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say impossible, but it would be

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Speaker 1: very hard. Murdered giraffe on YouTube. Have you considered doing

829
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: an ask me anything on the college football reddit or

830
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: reddit college football? Let me just say yes on this.

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00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: We're working on some things. A lot of you are.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons I've told you before that I

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00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: leave my inbox open. I encourage you guys. It's not

834
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Speaker 1: like I have a million dollars worth of collected salary

835
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: that I can pay you, but I encourage you guys.

836
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: If you think you have a skill, if you think

837
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: you can help us out. You get in that inbox

838
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: and you let me know. I've done that before with people.

839
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I have taken help like that before. So the reason

840
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: I tell you that is because a Reddit specialist recently

841
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: reached out. We're going to see what he can do

842
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: with that gauge. On YouTube, Dylan Brook's rating was lowered

843
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: to a four star after he committed to Tennessee. Do

844
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: you think recruiting services have a bias against certain schools?

845
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: Us v All fans have a running joke about that.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak to any other recruiting service, but twenty

847
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Speaker 1: four to seven it's the only one I've worked at.

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00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you categorically, point blank, no, there is

849
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: no bias against certain schools, and there is no bias

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00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: for certain schools. This, I know gets laughter from a

851
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: lot of people. Some of you may laughing right now,

852
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: so hold on, let me wait a second. Most of

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00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: you have calmed down. Ninety percent. Okay, now you've all stopped.

854
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Speaker 1: Excuse me, there was one more, yeah, stop laughing. Okay,

855
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: all right, here we go, All right, now, we're all back.

856
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: I know why you think this, and I understand the reasons,

857
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: and you just got to take my word for this.

858
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no reason to lie to you here because,

859
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: as I told you, I'm not on the council. I'm

860
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: not involved. I've never given a kid a star rating

861
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: in my life. I am not involved, but I observe it.

862
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: They are so meticulous, they are so detailed, they are

863
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: so process oriented. And the way that they go and

864
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: by they I'm in the ratings council, the way they

865
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: go about scouting and evaluating and then evaluating their evaluations.

866
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, it has nothing to do with

867
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: where they think of kid's going or where he's committed.

868
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: And well, this website did a whole lot of traffic,

869
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: so let's reward them with bumping their recruits up. It's

870
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: nothing like that, nothing at all. And I think what

871
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: you'd find is for everyone ratings cycle update, where it

872
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: seems like a disproportionate number of your commits may have dropped,

873
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: go back throughout history, go back throughout five ten years,

874
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: and you're going to be shocked to find or maybe

875
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: not shocked to find things even out in the long run,

876
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: there is no conspiracy. The conspiracy is to get it right,

877
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: because if you are truly implementing bias at the expense

878
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: of getting it right. That's how you expose yourself in

879
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: the long term, and I know these folks they're not

880
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: about to do that. Jay on YouTube, Josh, even though

881
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask is going to start at quarterback for Florida,

882
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: what role do you see Emerie Jones playing this year? Jay,

883
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: to keep it short and sweet, A fairly impactful one.

884
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of maybe a correlation to make,

885
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know, only because I don't remember necessarily

886
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: us seeing Dan Mullen in this situation before his offense.

887
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Probably this year being Dan Mullen probably looks a lot

888
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: different than it's been. I think it's a welcome change

889
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: for many of you Florida fans. But Emery Jones, when

890
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: you talk to people at Florida, they just tell you

891
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: a it's Trasks team b. Emory Jones is too good

892
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: to keep off the field, so I think he's worked

893
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: in there in a multitude of different ways. Bryce Email,

894
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: frequent listener to the show. Great work. Here's my question.

895
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to compare Michigan to an SEC team relative

896
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: to on field play record and recruiting. I came up

897
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: with Florida. Do you agree? Also, how much should I

898
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: look into a crystal ball from Steve Wilfohm. The crystal

899
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: ball is basically a forecasting feature here. If you're unfamiliar

900
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: with it, I suggest that you get familiar with it.

901
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: And we have lead experts on any given prospect, and

902
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: those lead experts are identified as the three or four.

903
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: I think we have five guys on each prospect who

904
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: are closest to his recruitment. Steve Wolfong is the best

905
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: in the business. I deal with him on a weekly basis,

906
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: several times a week. There is no one plugged in

907
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: more in the world of college football recruiting than Wilfong.

908
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Talks to several head coaches a day, talks to dozens

909
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: of kids per week, maybe per day. To be honest

910
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: with you, he is a machine. I don't know that

911
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: he sleeps. I don't know what his other hobbies are.

912
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what he does in his free time.

913
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if Steve has free time. I just

914
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: know that guy eats, sleeps, and breathes this business. And

915
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: you should very much take into account where he's forecasting

916
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: a kid to go. Because I have more than once

917
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: in the past month, heard them point blank tell him

918
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: where they're going, and he has to pretend like it's

919
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: a surprise. That's the struggle for Steve to pretend like

920
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: he's surprised when one of these kids does something. As

921
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: for the first part of this question, I agree with

922
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: your Michigan Florida comparison. I agree with that you've got

923
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: head coaches trying to get over the hump of a

924
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: major foe, their art rival in their way in their

925
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: own division. You've also got quarterback play that you hope

926
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: and at Kyle Trask's case with Florida, I think it's

927
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: there this year. If it's gonna be there, it's gonna

928
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: be this year. And with Michigan, you're still probably looking

929
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: to the future with JJ McCarthy being committed right now.

930
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: But offensively, I think by and large, these are programs

931
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: where they feel like we just need more, We need

932
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: more juice out of the squeeze, especially when we look

933
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: at what other programs are doing. But at the same time,

934
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: you got to be careful when you're judging these programs.

935
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: They're not bad. They're not four and eight. They're not

936
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: even eight and four like these have been New Year's

937
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: six caliber teams. These have been New Year's Day Bowl

938
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: kind of teams, so they're not bad. They remind me.

939
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: I think you're right here. They remind me a lot

940
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: of each other. Jeremiah on Twitter, wondering what your thoughts

941
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: are on Utah this upcoming season. I'm going to do

942
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: the same same thing with this I did with Miami.

943
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: I want to wait for the deeper dive at a

944
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: team base level until I get some word out of camps.

945
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. I mean I could be essue

946
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: for two minutes, but some would argue I do that enough,

947
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: and others would argue, yeah, I'd rather you just kick

948
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: it down the road a little bit. Steve in the

949
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: email inbox, do you think the long term effect of

950
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: the transfer portal will negatively impact recruiting in the long run?

951
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: If a team becomes dependent on developing a championship program

952
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: with a missing piece or two by recruiting through the

953
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: transfer portal, what's the incentive for quality high school recruits

954
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: to commit to that same type of program? Steve, This

955
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: is interesting, and you got to strike a healthy balance.

956
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Here's what Steve's saying. He's saying, if you got a

957
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: team that every year seems to bring on two or

958
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: three or four impact guys through the transfer market. Eventually,

959
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: won't high school kids look at that team and say,

960
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: if I go there, I mean, chances are I could

961
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: just get my spot covered up two or three years

962
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: then to my career by a transfer, and then what

963
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: am I going to do? So I listen. I mean,

964
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: one way you can look at that is competition's competition.

965
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: We're going to add talent by any means necessary. If

966
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: you don't like it, this place isn't for you, and

967
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that, to be honest

968
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: with you. But at the same time, you could also

969
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: have to deal with negative recruiting. You could also have

970
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: a program that's done it as you would probably call

971
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: it the more traditional way, and they rarely take transfers.

972
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: They could walk into your living room, Steve, if you

973
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: were a recruit and say, well, so you're down to us,

974
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: and them huh, well, look at what we've done. Kids

975
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: who have come here have been the ones who have

976
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: played for us out of high school. There, Hey, some

977
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: have made it, But I mean look at this, this,

978
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: this and this example, and these are examples of guys

979
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: who went there. They did everything right, and then transfers

980
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: came from Arizona State and Washington and Michigan State and

981
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: took their jobs. So you're all always having a look

982
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: over your shoulder there. Now. I'm not necessarily the biggest

983
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: fan of that recruiting approach, but it could happen, So

984
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do is do it

985
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: the old fashioned way and then sprinkle in transfers instead

986
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: of relying on them every single year. Dennis in the

987
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: email in box. With everyone having gone through shelter in

988
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: place for sixty days, do you see injuries being more

989
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: of a factor this season. In a typical year, they

990
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: have three months of in house training and stretching and

991
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: spring games to get their bodies ready. That won't happen

992
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: this year. Does that mean deeper programs like Lsubama clems

993
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: in Georgia Ohio State will they have an advantage? They

994
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: always have the advantage, Dennis, Make no mistake. I don't

995
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: care if you have five years of preparation. The deeper

996
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: teams always have the advantage. I personally don't think this

997
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: changes the sport all that much when you zoom it

998
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: out from a macro level, I don't think it changes

999
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: all that much. Here's what we know. It seems like

1000
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: pretty much everyone you know, unless you have like a

1001
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: Clemson who got their entire spring practice in or well

1002
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: they got whether they get like eleven or twelve in.

1003
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 1: So some programs got more springball than others in. But really,

1004
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: by and large, no one has a disproportionate advantage here. Like,

1005
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: it seems like everyone's roughly planning on opening things up

1006
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: near the same time, and everyone's gonna have enough lead

1007
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: up time, so any problems you have, someone else is

1008
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: just as likely to have, and that means everyone enters

1009
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: the season roughly on the same footing. Again, macro not micro.

1010
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: You could have an isolated situation that differs, but from

1011
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: a macro level, Dennis, if you and I go into

1012
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: the season the same way as we normally do and

1013
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: my roster is twenty percent deeper and more talented than yours,

1014
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm twenty percent more likely to be in a better

1015
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: situation than you are, just like I would be in

1016
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: a normal year. So I think that maybe if injuries

1017
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: are problem, they are a problem on average throughout the

1018
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: entire sport, and it could be that one team has

1019
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of freak injuries that could have happened

1020
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: any given year. But I don't think it's going to

1021
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: be a problem where all the teams that are thin

1022
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: get banged up in all the teams that are deep

1023
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: or healthy. I don't think it's going to be any

1024
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't think really it's going to be any different

1025
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: than the normal season. All right, that's all we have

1026
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: for this week. Again, it's kind of a shortened week.

1027
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, but hey, I mean, we can't be

1028
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: missing podcasts, so no vacation there. I really appreciate you

1029
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: guys listening. Again. Let me just remind you I don't

1030
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: beg and plead very often, but I will do it here.

1031
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: You guys have done so so good. You know, this

1032
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: podcast did not exist three months ago. I mean Late

1033
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: Kick at twenty four to seven did not exist three

1034
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: months ago. We've started it here from scratch and we've

1035
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: gotten really really good numbers. And let me just tell you,

1036
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: when you guys ask dozens of you per week, ask this,

1037
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: how can we help? How can we help? Five star

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1039
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: your question in the written review if you want to

1040
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 1: get it answered here. Those are like gold to us.

1041
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: Also follow me on Twitter at late Kick Josh. Hope

1042
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: you're writing this all down or pausing so you can

1043
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: go do each at Late Kick Josh on Twitter. I

1044
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: have a really fun time going back and forth with

1045
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: you guys. I keep my DMS open direct messages open

1046
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: all week. I read everything that you send me. I

1047
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: reply to most of you with at least a thumbs up,

1048
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: if not more. And you can hit me on the

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00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,960
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00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: and clicking the bell by the way, that bell icon

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00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: which notifies you when we go live. Those are the

1052
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: ways that you can help us out. I'm preaching to

1053
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: the choir, I know, because you guys have done so

1054
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: much already for us, and just word of mouth. Tell

1055
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: your friends. I mean, we're spending zero dollars and zero

1056
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Speaker 1: cents right now marketing this show and it's still taking off.

1057
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: So keep in mind, it's been a dead season. We

1058
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: haven't had spring ball, guys, we have not had anything,

1059
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: and yet you've still been here in droves. So just

1060
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: think along with me, what's it like when August gets here?

1061
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: What's it like when we got two weeks until opening weekend.

1062
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: What's it like when they actually start playing football. Well,

1063
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: the answer is a lot of fun. That's what it's

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Speaker 1: going to be like. And we'll finally have something to

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Speaker 1: take our mind off every single other thing going on

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Speaker 1: out there. And I know that'll be welcome for you

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Speaker 1: as it will be for me. So until then, I

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Speaker 1: got a lot to do in the way of finishing vacationing.

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Speaker 1: I will see you guys back in studio. The next

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Speaker 1: time I see you will be Thursday night. If you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this before Thursday, We're going to do a

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Live episode where I'm going to go really

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Speaker 1: in depth with Mario Cristobal. You guys will want to

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Speaker 1: check out that interview. Check that interview out, and of

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Speaker 1: course that'll be available as a podcast Friday morning and

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Speaker 1: then Sunday night, I'll be back in Nashville to do

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Live. So that airs at eight eastern seventh

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Speaker 1: Central Thursday and Sunday. Give us a review five stars

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Speaker 1: written review, Take care of yourself, God bless I will

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Speaker 1: see you guys later this week.