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Speaker 1: Here we go on a Friday, lots and lots to

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Speaker 1: talk about the NFL combine in full swing, busy weekend,

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Speaker 1: and Indianapolis. We're live in Chicago. It's the Herd. Wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be, however you may be listening, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making us part of your day. We've spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time this week talking about the Lakers for good reason.

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Speaker 1: They're the number one brand and the number one villain

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, and we're watching them melt in real time.

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Speaker 1: So if you had a leak in your house, right,

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Speaker 1: a small leak, you can convince yourself yeah, I'll patch

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Speaker 1: it up, biggie. But if your pipe bursts, well then

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Speaker 1: you get real clarity. I got a problem. So losing

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics, the Lakers said, do we have a leak?

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Speaker 1: Losing to Orlando? Oh, we do have a leak. Losing

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Speaker 1: the banged up Phoenix last night. You've got water in

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Speaker 1: your living room. The Lakers have lost three straight, five

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Speaker 1: of seven. They're falling apart. The Suns didn't have Devin

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Speaker 1: They'd scored seventy seven and eighty one points in their

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Speaker 1: previous two games. Ah, but the slump busters the Lakers defense,

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Speaker 1: the offensive slump busters in the league. The Sun score

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen and shoot a marvelous forty four

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Speaker 1: percent from three. The pipes for the Lakers have burst.

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Speaker 1: There can be no debate. And for the record, it's

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Speaker 1: a perfect thing. It actually is the best case scenario

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Speaker 1: because it illustrates that if you're a Laker in building,

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Speaker 1: new owners, or a player or a coach, there's real

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Speaker 1: work ahead. Let's stop pretending Lebron and Luca work. It's

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Speaker 1: a year in they don't. This team is eleven and

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Speaker 1: sixteen against just winning teams, and not all winning teams

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Speaker 1: in the NBA are actually any good. That's just against

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Speaker 1: teams with a winning record. I mean, Phoenix couldn't score

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Speaker 1: in the last week. Last night, they were humming, moving

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Speaker 1: the ball, wide open jumpers. There's nothing you can point

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Speaker 1: to to this team. Awful defensively, not enough athletes, can't

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Speaker 1: defend the rim, don't shoot threes, not athletic enough, and

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Speaker 1: it's all on display. And it's actually perfect. This isn't

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Speaker 1: a championship team. This is perfect because when you get

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Speaker 1: into trouble is when you have an off season and

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Speaker 1: go to the big meeting rooms and everybody sits around

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Speaker 1: in debates, Hey we are good. Our company is good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: our stock price is gonna move up, and I think

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Speaker 1: our our management team is excellent and we've got great employees.

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Speaker 1: It's much better to be like, yeah, we need four

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Speaker 1: new really good players and we gonna move off Lebron.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even the thing they were good at this year,

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Speaker 1: clutch games, they've lost the last two of those. So

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Speaker 1: the Lakers bench, which I think is the worst in

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Speaker 1: the league, was outscored fifty six to twenty five. And

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Speaker 1: think about that. Phoenix was missing three two starters. They're

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Speaker 1: two best players, Dylan Brooks and Devin Booker, and a

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Speaker 1: top rotational guy. So the bench for Phoenix's third string guys,

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Speaker 1: it's still doubled. Up the Lakers. So they need four players,

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Speaker 1: probably a couple of B pluses, maybe an anus. The

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Speaker 1: good news is they have three available first round picks

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Speaker 1: to trade this offseason. They have a ton of cap space,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna move off Lebron. But you're watching this big,

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Speaker 1: glossy brand melt and I think a lot of times

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Speaker 1: when you bring in when you bring in Luca, every

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Speaker 1: Laker fan thought, oh, this will solve our issues. But

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Speaker 1: there's just new issues. And the issues are clear. He

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Speaker 1: is such an atrocious defensive player that you can't have

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Speaker 1: and speaking of Lebron's exit, Byron Scott on a popular

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Speaker 1: local LA radio show yesterday said, what a lot of

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was laughable, you know, coming from

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest players that ever played a game

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Speaker 3: to say that it was harder. It's harder to play

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to see him go from the Lakers?

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Speaker 3: I think this should be his last year here.

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Speaker 1: Uh so do I. Lebron is forty one. He's averaging

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Speaker 1: the few minutes of his career. He's shooting under thirty

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Speaker 1: rookie season, and he is the second slowest player in

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Speaker 1: the entire league. Lebron had leverage over the NBA for

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Speaker 1: twenty one years, twenty two years. It's all dried up,

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Speaker 1: and he's been such a mercenary. And I have defended

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Speaker 1: him for his mobility, good for him, but he has

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Speaker 1: been such a mercenary. There's no reason to be sentimental

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Speaker 1: and romantic about it. There's no need for that. He

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Speaker 1: bailed on teams. I supported it. They were good business

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Speaker 1: moves in the Lakers probably, and should bail on him. Listen,

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Speaker 1: this was always going to be Let's be totally honest

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Speaker 1: about Lebron and the Lakers. Let's just be frank about this.

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Speaker 1: It was always a Hollywood marriage, right, two hot stars,

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Speaker 1: and you know what happens in Hollywood. One of the

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Speaker 1: stars eventually starts dating somebody younger. That's Luca. Lebron had

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Speaker 1: all the leverage, but he bounced around left. Miami didn't

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Speaker 1: give d Wade or Bosha heads up five minutes before

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Speaker 1: it happened. They found out, and that's okay. I defended him.

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Speaker 1: He was the best player in the world for eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: But this Hollywood marriage, Hey, listen, the good news that

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Speaker 1: lasted longer than Nick Cage and Lisa Marie Presley or

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Speaker 1: Billy Bob and Angelina. You know, it wasn't it wasn't

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Speaker 1: just a weekend in Vegas. It lasted a while. But again,

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Speaker 1: I think from day one, Laker fans looked at Luca as, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is the solution to our problems, and it just

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Speaker 1: really illustrates there are different problems with Luca. Luca is

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Speaker 1: not Wemby's. You know, he's not like, he's not even,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, He's not SGA because Sja

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Speaker 1: is infrequently hurt and in great impeccable shape. So we

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Speaker 1: are at a point now that there can be no debate.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's going to the meeting room and trying to convey themselves.

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Speaker 1: The Lebron Luca thing works. That's the great thing about analytics.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talk a lot about analytics, whereas I

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Speaker 1: I just want guys to make plays. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what the numbers say. It's fourth and one. Give it

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Speaker 1: to your star running back. I don't care what analytics say.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to kick a field goal. But the

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Speaker 1: analytics and the data are really instructive. Lebron and Luca

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Speaker 1: don't work because they're now both awful defensive players. And

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Speaker 1: Luca and Austin Reeves actually do work because Austin is

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Speaker 1: much more willing to be the valet to the Bentley.

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Speaker 1: And it works, and the data all says it. So

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Speaker 1: Luca is absolutely such a gifted offensive player. He's absolutely

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Speaker 1: an asset. And to maximize that asset, you got to

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Speaker 1: move off Lebron, and you got it free up cap space.

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Speaker 1: You got to go get four players. Three have to

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Speaker 1: be very good defensively. Two have to be able to

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Speaker 1: catch and shoot. Because Luca's always got the ball, but

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Speaker 1: Lebron's bailed three times, defended him every time. It's time

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers to bail. Here was Rachel Nichols yesterday.

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Speaker 4: There is a big sort of let's go to the summer,

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Speaker 4: let's get there, let's move forward.

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Speaker 5: And while the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: Have said Lebron is welcome back in the organization. It's

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Speaker 4: very clear that building around Luca does not involve Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: I don't really blame some sort of the lazy plays

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Speaker 4: some of the falling apart that we've seen, because I

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Speaker 4: think everyone's mind on that team is we're going to

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Speaker 4: fight as hard as we can, but we all know

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Speaker 4: we're not finals contenders right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when I used to live on the

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Speaker 1: and it was very powerful in Boston and Philadelphia, New York,

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Speaker 1: and I believed that a lot of times, like managers

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Speaker 1: like the new Laker owners they really understand Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles is distracted and wants to win. And the

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Speaker 1: Bus family one of the poorer families in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: When they own the Lakers, like they were afraid to

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Speaker 1: move off Kobe. They were afraid to move off Lebron,

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Speaker 1: and what about merchandise and ticket sales. But the new

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Speaker 1: Dodgers owners have a real understanding. They've got much more capital,

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Speaker 1: much better capitalized. They've moved off Cody Bellinger and Manny

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Speaker 1: Machado briefly, and Zach Grinkey and Scott Seeger. Tray Turner

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Speaker 1: like great players to get better players. So I imagine

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Speaker 1: the Lakers will be all in on Giannis, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, with Luca's defensive liabilities, is not a bad move.

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Speaker 1: But but Lebron's not magic. Magic Johnson is so popular

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Speaker 1: You can see him at the lunch or breakfast seven

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Speaker 1: crowd rises, Oh my god, there's magic. That's not what

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Speaker 1: Lebron is. That's never been Lebron. Shack has that feel.

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Speaker 1: The late Jerry West Kobe had that feel. Lebron doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He bounced around the league, he went and found the

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Speaker 1: best spot for him. I supported him every way. In fact,

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Speaker 1: after he left Cleveland, the first time, and people burned

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Speaker 1: his jerseys. I'm like, he gave a million bucks of

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Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club. It was a little clunky

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Speaker 1: move on. Everybody else, including the commissioner, David Stern, was

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Speaker 1: crushing him, and I'm like, it's not the end of

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Speaker 1: the world. They couldn't get him an All Star seven

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Speaker 1: years he gave Cleveland everything. But now nobody has leverage forever. Nobody,

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Speaker 1: nobody has leverage forever. Even our presidents have term limits.

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Speaker 1: Jay Mac, I know this was a rough opening for you,

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Speaker 1: but as I said, when the pipes burst, it creates clarity.

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Speaker 1: And I think losing to Phoenix clabbered by Boston can't

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Speaker 1: close out Orlando at home, it is like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: need new we need multiple new guys, and Reddick, Austin

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Speaker 1: and Luke are here for the long term. Everybody else

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Speaker 1: is going to get moved.

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Speaker 5: Remember early part of the season, they were winning all

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Speaker 5: these close games in the clutch. They were one of

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Speaker 5: the best teams in the league. Now they lose two

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Speaker 5: in a row and it's like, oh boy, here we go,

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Speaker 5: here we come play in. You know, there's just I

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Speaker 5: think one game out of the play in At this point,

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Speaker 5: which would not be great. Well, I'm gonna stay the course. Colin.

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Speaker 5: I know you're gonna be negative. Nancy here, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: It's a beautiful Friday in La eighty degrees. You can't

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Speaker 5: dim my Friday. I think the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 5: be fine. Off season ahead, bringing Giannis. Let's go Lakers.

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Speaker 1: So I hope so so big D used to stand

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Speaker 5: All right, Let's start with the report cards that some

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Speaker 5: don't I have no idea what to make of this stuff, Colin.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins have a real estate mogul as their own owner,

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Speaker 5: Bottom five R Bengals at twenty eight, Bucks at twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: The Rooneys are viewed as a little cheap, a little

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Speaker 5: Mean I guess I would ask like, why is this

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Speaker 1: I know why. The owners don't want to get called

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fly, Like, look at all the bad grades for

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Speaker 5: is is this gonna lead to any change? The players

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Speaker 1: Craft and the winners. The players do have power. Leaking

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Speaker 1: these report cards is power, and so the roonies. I

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Speaker 5: I agree they should be public. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: You're asking why they care. The biggest egos in the

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Speaker 5: I like that. Take the billionaire, Well, we shouldn't talk

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Speaker 5: about taking down billionaires anyways. Let's move on to the Raiders, Colin,

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Speaker 5: and for Nano Mendoza, he met with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Who have the number one pick.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's excited and listen, man, for Nano Mendoza is the best.

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Speaker 5: We should do an hour on him every day on

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Speaker 9: Well, right now, I'm unemployed. I have no job, so

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Speaker 9: So right now I'm just trying to do everything to

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Speaker 9: It was a fantastic interview.

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Speaker 1: Coach Staff was in there.

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Speaker 1: How do you not love that kid?

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Speaker 5: I mean he's I'm unemployed right now. Like I guarantee

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the man.

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Speaker 5: Look what I just tested on the vertical leap and

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure some people listening are like, why do

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Speaker 5: He's honest. I'm going to become a bit of a

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Speaker 5: NBA where your guy, mister Berner. Kevin Durant went off

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Speaker 5: Orlando Magic. Kd became the sixth player in NBA history

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Speaker 5: to join the thirty two thousand point club. And oh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, he will be passing Michael Jordan here

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Speaker 5: very shortly for most points scored in NBA history. Lebron

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Speaker 5: has obviously one, Kareem Abdul jabbartwo Jordan is currently five.

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Speaker 5: K D will pass him probably in March, maybe April.

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Speaker 5: And KD is also tied with Kobe for fifth most

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Speaker 5: thirty point games in NBA history. Let's put some respect

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Speaker 5: on the Twitter lover Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: I highlight KD is. I think, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think he's one of I've had, you know, I've seen

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Speaker 1: him play a lot. I've watched a lot of television.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just an all time talent. I like him.

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Speaker 1: He's quirky, but I like him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, he's I don't want to quite say an

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers of the NBA, but he's certainly different and

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Speaker 5: operates in a different attitude and zone and everything. He's

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Speaker 5: a really good basketball player, though, I just I don't know,

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Speaker 5: you know, I know the legacy talk comes up a lot,

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Speaker 5: and he came close with the nets, with the toe

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Speaker 5: in the line against Giannis. He came close with Okac.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be a taking twenty five player of

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Speaker 1: all time, he's.

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Speaker 5: Probably five, why not top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean closer to fifteen than one. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with it. I'm a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I like his game, I you know, I mean when

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Speaker 1: it was Westbrook, Harden and Kevin Duranton OKC, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: the one I would have kept, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like they let Harden go and Westbrook eventually wore

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Speaker 1: KD out. But KD to me has been you know,

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Speaker 1: I've used the joke several times, not necessarily a joke,

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Speaker 1: but if there was a one on one train, if

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Speaker 1: you take centers out, you take you know, that's like

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Speaker 1: a genetic advantage. Takes centers out and they don't handle

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Speaker 1: the ball very well anyway. But if he took all

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Speaker 1: centers out and had a one on one basketball tournament

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Speaker 1: in the history of the league, I think KD beats Jordan, Kobe,

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Speaker 1: and Lebron. I think Katie wins it. I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think he's devastating.

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Speaker 5: Take holy out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, j McK with the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd

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Speaker 2: Line News.

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Speaker 1: So, when Luca came into the NBA, he was young,

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Speaker 1: euro dominant score, and everybody's like, that's unbelievable, and I

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Speaker 1: said the same thing, but I did say he's a

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Speaker 1: better Carmelo Anthony. I don't think he likes defense at all,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he's in great shape, and he'll

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Speaker 1: aige fast. In the last week, and I'm proud of

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Speaker 1: the media brethren. In the last week, there has been

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Speaker 1: more criticism, all valid, all legitimate, on Luca Tom Haberstrow,

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Speaker 1: I'll just read this to you. Over the last two seasons,

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Speaker 1: this is a tweet. Two hundred and seven NBA players

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Speaker 1: have made a shot to tire or go ahead in

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Speaker 1: the final minute of a game. Luca is not one

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Speaker 1: of those two hundred and seven players. Tuesday Night's bizarre

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Speaker 1: grenade to Lebron is no aberration, so listen. I've always

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Speaker 1: kind of believe like it's like the transfer portal in

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Speaker 1: college football. If Georgia lets a great defensive player go,

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Speaker 1: he has baggage. They were not letting Jalen Carter go

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Speaker 1: and he had red flags. Ad gets traded multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Why he's brittle and never in great shape. James Harden

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Speaker 1: been traded five times. He's an all time great. Luca

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Speaker 1: got traded, and there were reasons he was falling apart.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't stay in shape, he was increasingly brittle, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily make teammates better. And you're seeing it.

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Speaker 1: So like the transfer portal, even though the Lakers got

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Speaker 1: the better of the deal, nobody was letting Kobe go.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was letting MJ go or Bird go or Magic go.

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Speaker 1: You know, a team got old and eventually centers age quickly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I if Luca would have been an

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Speaker 1: impeccable shape and an elite defender, Dallas would have never

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Speaker 1: even picked up the phone, irregardless, regardless of the offer.

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Speaker 1: So ten years ago, you didn't have the data that

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Speaker 1: you have now, and the data is very true on Luca.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the past ten years, the Warriors could

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Speaker 1: have multiple times treated Steph Curry if they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: They didn't. Well, because Curry's a great leader, He's in

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Speaker 1: impeccable shape, he is still absolutely relevant, he plays well

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Speaker 1: with others, He's committed in the off season. Lucas stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I don't think Luca's great. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: win the NBA scoring title. He's obviously great. But I've

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Speaker 1: been watching the NBA since the early seventies, I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of lob sided offensive players. James Harden is

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Speaker 1: one of them. Say what you want about Larry Bird

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Speaker 1: three times all defense, Kobe defense. Most of the great

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Speaker 1: players in league history, almost all of them played defense.

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Speaker 1: Russell did, Kareem did, Kobe did, BYRD did, MJ did,

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Speaker 1: Lebron and his prime did. So you know, and I

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Speaker 1: think what happens is when a player goes to your team,

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Speaker 1: you see all the warts. So I want to show

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Speaker 1: you something last night. It's a prime example of how

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Speaker 1: the league views Luca. So the Phoenix Suns set up

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Speaker 1: a play at the very end, and what do they do?

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Speaker 1: Top of the key, They go right after Luca, and

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Speaker 1: the Laker defense to save him has to collapse. And

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Speaker 1: then the Sun's backups do what everybody does, swing it

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Speaker 1: and hit a jumper. But if you look at they

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Speaker 1: go right after Luca, fly by him, you gotta collapse

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Speaker 1: and now you're just trying to play catch up as

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Speaker 1: a defensive team. Eventually they find an open shooter, and

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Speaker 1: again Devin Booker didn't play, Dylan Brooks didn't play. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is why how the league views him.

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Speaker 1: They need a game winning shot. Go after Luca, create space,

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Speaker 1: and go after him. Here was JJ Reddick on this play.

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Speaker 10: Essentially, we ended up with two low men, and so

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Speaker 10: you know it would have been Smart's rotation had Jalen

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Speaker 10: Green not shifted towards the corner. Really, there's no one

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Speaker 10: there to go, you know, Jake. Where Jake was to

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Speaker 10: be able to get the contest's that there was no

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Speaker 10: one to rotate. Essentially, so you know, you got a

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Speaker 10: clean look. He made it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so you can talk, you can throw

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Speaker 1: the palm palms up in the air, but that's what

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Speaker 1: an NBA team did late, a team that was struggling

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Speaker 1: to score. Go after Luca, create space, get him an

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Speaker 1: open space, abuse him, move to the rack, make him collapse,

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Speaker 1: and then just swing the ball around of the open shooter.

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Speaker 1: As JJ Reddick said, we got a clean look. They

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Speaker 1: got a clean look because the defense broke down and

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Speaker 1: you have to always save Luca. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Oh New York Giants. Boy, what an offseason for one

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Speaker 1: New York football team. The New York Giants maybe making

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Speaker 1: some news that's coming up live in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: It's the hurd be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and noone Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 11: They got a huge top ten showdown on Fox College

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Speaker 11: Hoops tonight as Yatze Lendeborgan number three in Michigan look

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Speaker 11: to keep their dominant season rolling against freshman phenom Keaton

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Speaker 11: Walk and number ten Illinois tonight eight Eastern only on Fox.

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Speaker 1: That'll be one of the better college basketball games of

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Speaker 1: the year. It's at Illinois. It's about an hour from

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Speaker 1: where I sit, and you go to that. Illinois is

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Speaker 1: a home dog, very much a home dog.

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Speaker 5: I want to back the Illinois Ilini here.

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Speaker 1: Colin, you're back in Illinois. Yeah, I'm on them all right.

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Speaker 5: I know the Michigan fans are gonna be update great gig,

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Speaker 5: gonna be a.

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Speaker 1: Great game, great game. This is an Ohio State Buckeye

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Speaker 1: first round, so the Buckeyes may have five players drafted

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Sunny Styles, a great linebacker, Rvl Reese,

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Speaker 1: maybe the best player in the draft, Cayden McDonald, Caleb

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Speaker 1: Downs is unbelievable. And you know I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: Five Buckeyes could go in the first round. No Michigan

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Speaker 1: Wolverines So the minute Jim Harball leaves Michigan, Ohio State

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Speaker 1: completely pulls away. And I mean, as great as Jim

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Speaker 1: Harball was, it took him seven years to beat Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Now Michigan has the better fight song, the better uniforms,

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Speaker 1: and the better academics. But let's be honest, Michigan's always

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Speaker 1: as good as it's coach. Ohio State's good, sometimes great,

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Speaker 1: depending on a coach. So this draft is going to

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Speaker 1: be and right now, the best football program in America.

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Speaker 1: We just got to be totally honest. It is Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: It was Bama for a long time, it is now

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. And the truth is Ohio State's always been

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Speaker 1: the better football program. And then there's the occasional pop

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Speaker 1: years by Michigan. And I love Michigan. I wish I

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Speaker 1: could have gotten into Michigan, but it Harball's first six

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Speaker 1: attempts to beat Michigan, to beat Ohio State lost loss

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Speaker 1: loss loss lost loss. How did Urban Meyer do against Michigan?

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Speaker 1: Year one beat them, year two beat them, year three,

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Speaker 1: beat them, Your four, five, six, beat them, your seven

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Speaker 1: beat them? He never lost Jim Tressel nine and one

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Speaker 1: against Michigan. So I mean, when it takes Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: seven tries to beat you, you're a different level program.

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Speaker 1: So when I look at this draft, to me, it's

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Speaker 1: an Ohio State draft. And over the course of you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been watching college football like most of you since

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Speaker 1: the early seventies, and there have been there was a

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Speaker 1: time when Notre Dame was the best program, and there

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Speaker 1: was a time when Nebraska in the mid nineties felt

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Speaker 1: like the best program. And then Spurrier in Florida got hot,

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Speaker 1: and Bobby Bowden in Florida State and the Miami Hurricanes

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Speaker 1: in usc and then Alabama took it over for a

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Speaker 1: long time, and Clemson was close, and Georgia was close.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State right now is the best football program in America.

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Speaker 1: And there are certain positions like linebacker and wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle, running back where they kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: they're playing at a different speed. I know everybody's got

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Speaker 1: Indiana now is the team to beat in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: No they're not. They are not. Ohio State remains the best.

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting. Life moves fast in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So there's a story today by Connor Hughes, and you know,

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Speaker 1: stuff in the NFL could happen this weekend. The New

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Speaker 1: York Giants, and I love their off season so far,

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Speaker 1: are listening to trade offers for Kavon Thibadeau, the rush

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Speaker 1: and who they drafted back in twenty twenty two. But

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Speaker 1: then they got Brian Burns in a trade with Carolina.

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Speaker 1: They just drafted Abdul Carter and because of that, he's

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Speaker 1: like the number three pass rusher and his numbers are regressing,

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Speaker 1: and so you say to yourself, well, what are you

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Speaker 1: going to get for the number three pass rusher. Something

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Speaker 1: is happening in the NFL. And I was talking to

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Speaker 1: former NFL scout John Middelkoff on my podcast last night.

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Speaker 1: The world has changed because of all these aggressive young

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Speaker 1: general managers.

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Speaker 12: Because the cap is so big right now, there are

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Speaker 12: so many options with trades. And I talked to Howie

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Speaker 12: about this. When I first started working for Howie in

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Speaker 12: twenty ten, he was on the forefront of the the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Forever wasn't that trade heavy.

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Speaker 12: So people are willing to, hey, you want this guy,

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Speaker 12: you want to trade draft picks, you want to do this.

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Speaker 12: So there is just a lot of action, which I

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Speaker 12: think stalls some deals because it gets so expensive it's

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Speaker 12: like a house.

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Speaker 1: So all these young gms are battling against one another.

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Speaker 1: And now we talked about Jamck and I talked about

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis and j Max like he's not going to

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Speaker 1: get thirty five million. Just think about this. Who needs

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Speaker 1: a quarterback Arizona. Oh, they've got a young, aggressive GM,

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Speaker 1: and the Falcons may need another quarterback, and they've got

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Speaker 1: a young, aggressive general manager. And the Jets could use

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis and they have a young general manager, and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers could use a quarterback. And they've got a

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Speaker 1: first time general manager. So it used to be I

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Speaker 1: mean last year, let me look this up. Last year

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Speaker 1: there were was it twenty two in season trades last year.

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Speaker 1: That is the most since nineteen ninety five. So what

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Speaker 1: you're getting is this new world of all these sharp

647
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Speaker 1: young offensive coaches and sharp young general managers, and they

648
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Speaker 1: are trade centric. So I think Malik Willet and people say, well,

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis only has six starts. I think that's very

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Speaker 1: very interesting. Can you tell after six starts if a

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Speaker 1: guy has it or doesn't. Now, obviously the Packers are

652
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: well run. They've got a good offensive coach, they have weapons.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this about Malik Willis. He came

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Speaker 1: from Tennessee to Green Bay late in camp in August.

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Speaker 1: They were playing him three weeks later and he was

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Speaker 1: exceptional and it's like, okay, so this guy can learn

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Speaker 1: a playbook fast. That's important. And he also fit in

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay's culture very quickly. There's discussions last year.

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Speaker 1: People were saying, is he better than Jordan Love. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he is, but there were discussions about it.

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Speaker 1: So and remember when the Colts gave up two first

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Speaker 1: round picks for Sauce Gardner, why because they probably had

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Speaker 1: to give up two first round picks because there was

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Speaker 1: another aggressive general manager. The Packers last year spent a

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Speaker 1: fortune seventy seven million, four year deal on a guard.

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00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Why because they weren't bidding against themselves. So you are

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: right now, it's like a hot real estate market driving

668
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: up one house, several bidders on everything. So if you

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Speaker 1: look at the free agents. Now, let's look at the

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Speaker 1: notable free agents right now, and these are good players.

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Speaker 1: So Malik Willis, I think he's going to get thirty

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Speaker 1: two million dollars. I really do. Kenneth Walker, he's a

673
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Speaker 1: bit now Seattle. He was banged up a lot in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: He did deliver this year. My guess is they move

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Speaker 1: off him. Breise Hall, Travis etn. It's a bad running

676
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Speaker 1: back draft class. There are good running backs here. The

677
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: two or three players that really interest me on this list,

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Speaker 1: one is Malik Willis. The other is Alec Pierce, the

679
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: wide receiver from the Colts. I think he's a really

680
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: good player. Kate Awten Tampa Bay tight end, great hands

681
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: like him. I think the best player available is the

682
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Speaker 1: center for the Baltimore Ravens, Tyler Linderbaum. I would pay

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Speaker 1: a fortune if I was like the Raiders. I mean,

684
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Speaker 1: that's what the Chicago Bears and Ben Olson and Ryan

685
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Speaker 1: Poles did. What was the first thing they did with

686
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. It wasn't going get receivers, it was guard,

687
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Speaker 1: center guard. They went and got Drew Dolman, Joe Toney,

688
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: Jonah Jackson. So Linderbaum is going to get paid. Elijah Vera.

689
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Tucker's good but banged up a lot. Jalen Phillips to me,

690
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: another very interesting player. Eagles had him. So there's some

691
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Speaker 1: really really interesting free agents out there, and several and

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Speaker 1: I you know, You can say what you want about

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Speaker 1: free agents that only thirty five percent hit, but New

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Speaker 1: England did a really good job last year getting the

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Speaker 1: right kind of players. New England does not make the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl without spending two hundred and fifty large in

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Speaker 1: free agency. Jay mcafi said, there's like that, like Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: I like, but I'm not paying him at this point.

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00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts has talent, forget it, I'm not paying him, Kayatton,

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis, Alec Pearce, and Tyler Linderbaum are guys. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Phillips is also good. It just depends on what the number.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: No, If Phillips the Eagles are not letting him go,

704
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Speaker 5: he's very good. Let's go back to this Malik Willis

705
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Speaker 5: stuff real quick. You think he's getting thirty two mil.

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Speaker 5: Give me two teams that are paying thirty two mil

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Speaker 5: for Malik Willis Arizona. Okay, that's one. I don't know

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Speaker 5: that they'd go to thirty two mili, but I think

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Speaker 5: that yes, they'll be in the mixed rame.

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Speaker 1: Well, all you need is too if there are the thing.

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Speaker 5: That's the problem, who's the two and no, don't say

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Speaker 5: the Jets. That's that's a non starter. Honestly, coming out

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Speaker 5: of Jets camp, the stuff is, hey, we're going to

714
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Speaker 5: kick the tires on Spencer Rattler. They are not spending

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Speaker 5: on Malik Willis the Jets. I can guarantee you.

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Speaker 1: That, I mean is good kid learns the playbook fast.

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Speaker 1: You think Kevin O'Connell wants to finish in fourth place,

718
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Speaker 1: why not in division? Go buy him again. I don't

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Speaker 1: need an offensive coach in Arizona in a rookie rookie year.

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Speaker 1: You got an offensive coach off a bad year in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and Arizona, and if seed teams get into a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a bidding war.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's insane. I think that probably nuke

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy's mindset. I mean, you don't pay thirty million

725
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Speaker 5: from Malik Willis to Adam.

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Speaker 1: If I run Minnesota, that's not my problem.

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Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, Kevin O'Connell has to save his own job

728
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Speaker 5: and finally to go back to was it Thibodeau saying

729
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Speaker 5: I was looking at this contract like I don't This

730
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Speaker 5: is similar to a Jermaine Johnson situation where the Titans

731
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Speaker 5: are gonna be like, hey, prove it and we'll pay you.

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Speaker 5: I don't do you think Thibodeau.

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Speaker 1: I he has a market. I absolutely think he has

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Speaker 1: a market. Yeah, Buffalo, why not. I mean, again, he's

735
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Speaker 1: not as good as Brian Burns. No, but but I

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Speaker 1: also think he's probably at this point, you know, Abdul

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Speaker 1: Carter is really talented. But you know there were a

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Speaker 1: lot of reports on meetings missed and yeah,